Thanks Tim! Gotta appreciate a new way to choke a load. I’m definitely in the camp of rotating the shackle 90 degrees so the strap is on the pin and bell and not derating the shackle. It may be more difficult to get the strap on but some elbow grease will do the trick. Enjoy your videos, cheers from the West Cost!
Glad to hear you utter "that's not going anywhere". I wasn't sure you would and so, break a little known Australian transport law....😄 I'm glad I've found your channel mate, you're a great source of information, thank you.
Thanks Tim , I m on my own on 5 acres with two horses , you have helped me with learning fencing, rope ties using ratchets and now this I couldn’t have done my jobs without your tips ! Cheers mate! 🇦🇺
Searched how to back up a harrow and came across this. Need seen a load choker before but I HAVE seen the trick with the shackle. Used it a time or two after and I like it. Thanks for sharing. Cheers
Tim - Simple tricks are often the best tricks. Lots of videos out there on securing loads, but none like this. This video alone sold me on subscribing. Thanks for sharing the wealth.
Personally I'd go the bow shackle as I can see in the worst case scenario the horse shoe shape snapping at the bend under extreme load pressures or just overtime. When it comes to safety thinking of the worst case scenario helps me in perventing it from ever happening. The way I always tied timber post, steel pipes or even the PVC stormwater stuff was first to tie it together and over the top but after watching your video the bowie is my new best friend as it kills two birds with one stone. I wish I stumbled on your channel years ago as farming is a hard game to learn on your own and this is a great from of visual learning. Cheers for the great video and that bit of knowledge. Keep those tips and tricks coming and stay safe mate.
Save your cash on these load chokers these are made for heavier loads I use them from 2 tonne upwards on cylindrical loads at work..... loads this small its safe yes but overkill. If your just getting small loads like this in the back of your ute you can use the 2500kg straps and ratchets and choke the straps back on itself this works extremely well I've use this method on 5 tonne steel billets and never had a problem. To choke a strap to a load take the strap lock it to side of ute go under load then bring the strap around the top of load back to the strap go under the strap bring back over the top ratchet down done and you save over 150 bucks.
Cool video! But word to the wise, shackles are not designed to bear weight in that orientation (horizontally). Shackles are designed to bear weight in their vertical orientation (top of bow to the pin). Using it in a horizontal orientation drastically reduces the load capacity. With a simple truck load, it's probably not a big deal with a shackles that size... but it's not good practice. But anyway, as I said... Cool video!
I got in trouble off a Bunnings guy the other day when I tied some timber studs to my trailer the way you showed not to do. I thought a clove hitch around the load would help, but it still came a little loose. Now I have an excuse to get a big bow hitch (I only use ropes)! Thanks Tim 😁
Thanks for this. I drove tractor/trailer in western Canada as a way to pay for school, hauling "bedbugs". Used the truckers knot (do it with twists in the rope to make the loop) to the furniture tears but have never seen this method of tying down an open load. (Hate open loads by the way - this will help me be more tolerant.)
I've been choking loads of fence posts for a few years now. I just feed the strap around its self, but it does take a bit longer and the friction can make it hard to get good tention. I actually have one tied on my ute and one on my trailer right now.
Hi Tim, I love your videos and have found them full of practical useful advice. I have been wrapping the webbing strap around itself where you have placed the load choker. It is definitely a great way of stabilising difficult loads. I guess the advantage of the load choker is that it allows the strap to stay flat giving easier feed and a stronger outcome?
I usually just put the strap around the pipes and strap it tight then i put another strap to fasten it to the bed. But this is cool, but not everyone has specialty item like this...
Where can I get one of those in the US? I see so many cool things that come out of the AU, but you can't get them in the US! Swan hooks are another example. I've looked all over and they aren't sold here. Makes no sense.
Seriously though!,...I tried an experiment today with the "Load Choker" ,and just used one in the middle to see if it would hold three different steel loads, One a the load's were 20 cut angles, A single, 6 metre purlin and fifty 8 metre steel rods ,.. it did not hold!,. First sharp turn, I needed to pull over and secure the load again, I also had two other straps on both ends of the load, but alas..Faliure rate ..100%
Wouldn't it be the same to just go around the load and then ratcheting/hitching? The loop on the rope would choke the load the same way and you don't need anything else. Would love an answer, greetings from Argentina!
Hi Thomas, no. The rope crosses over if wrapped and can bind leading to uneven tension each side, movement and loss of tension. This is for heavier, commercial loads where top performance is required. For small loads from the store, you would not notice the difference.
@@FarmLearningTim thanks for the answer! I usually carry small loads from the metal supply store and it has worked well, glad to know there's a next level lol
I would be afraid to use the load choker. If it broke the strap would become far too loose compared to strapping it down without it. I would use a single rope and put a loop in the rope to tighten the load together and another loop near the tie off point for a trucker hitch.
@@FarmLearningTim All good my friend. It's a cool find and a great product. The manufacturer's site doesn't seem legit and everything is $100. Gives me some ideas though, super clever invention.
technically most of the world drives on the right hand side of the road... less than 1/6 of the world drives on the left hand side of the road.. and the only reason for the left hand side road drivers like Australia is outdated as it was started like that to keep the right hand free to use a sword while holding on to the reins of the horse with the left hand.. and where most people wore their swords with the point facing out of the persons left side drawing with their right, traffic would pass one another on the right side like australia traffic in order to avoid the sharp business end of the holstered swords...
Saw Them!.. Somewhere!, ..Got Them!.. Somewhere!, .. Using Them!, ..Loving Them! ..um!.. Somewhere??..Wow I Really Did Not Think That Through, Haha ..Boooo!!
@@FarmLearningTim Thanks. I now see it would be better. (I'm retired now, and no longer trucking, so I probably won't need that improvement,,,,, but thanks)
I meant to add, when the video was released a few weeks ago, I'm a shy wall flower. If you don't have the luxury of a bow shackle. And are working off the tools you have at hand. Most likely one of the shackles from your tow bar. If the rope end's up wrapping around the pin / bolt, Taking up the tension on the rope, can spin the pin / bolt undone. Its a 50/50 chance, I'm aware of it now after being caught out a few times. 2 in 25 years of using that knot. Now days I loop that, so as it might tighten the pin clockwise. Doesn't apply with the Bow shackle, as Tim showed it, as long as it stays on each side of the bow, but be careful, if your rope end's up wrapped around the pin. Typically it doesn't fails, if it runs it all the way out of the thread, it will pinch on the clearance hole, but that seriously derate's the strength of the shackle. My advice is to look at the pin, just to ensure its still up to the shoulder. Other than that. its a sensational method. Bundling things together. Load choker also do a chain version 8 or 10mm chain,for use with real dogs. Anything greater than 2,500kg L.C. Concrete pipes come to mind
the camera angle made it impossible for me to discern if your truckies knot is the same truckies knot ive been using for 30 years. i had to get a mate to throw it onto a steel frame in my yard so i could copy it. and when i wasnt at home i was in trouble. through careful analysis of his procedure i devised a far simple way to do it and show others - eg people at bunnings. but ive got an easier knot to show them now. the double 8 knot. i say "that knot you know how to do to put a loop in the rope, i call that the bastard knot because its a bastard to undo. however if you just go around one extra half a turn before you pull it through the loop its a professional riggers knot called a double 8. and its easier to remember. now you're a rigger". ive had this conversation many times. and as people who know me have found out - dont touch my rope. get away from my rope. i'll do that thankyou. i'll coil that up thankyou. i actually got shown an improvement on my truckies knot by a shipwright that cant come undone if the rope slacks off. you put the loop that was pulled through back through from the other side - i bet that doesnt make sense to anyone.
Thanks Tim! Gotta appreciate a new way to choke a load. I’m definitely in the camp of rotating the shackle 90 degrees so the strap is on the pin and bell and not derating the shackle. It may be more difficult to get the strap on but some elbow grease will do the trick. Enjoy your videos, cheers from the West Cost!
Glad to hear you utter "that's not going anywhere". I wasn't sure you would and so, break a little known Australian transport law....😄
I'm glad I've found your channel mate, you're a great source of information, thank you.
Good to hear good ideas from a real aussie. The yanks could learn a lot from you mate.
Love your videos Tim !!
Good to see Tim, I thought I was the only one using bow shackles have been using them for years on posts and pipe.👍
Thanks Tim , I m on my own on 5 acres with two horses , you have helped me with learning fencing, rope ties using ratchets and now this I couldn’t have done my jobs without your tips ! Cheers mate! 🇦🇺
Awesome to hear. Glad to be of help
Thank you for sharing, that’s a real good idea
Superb vid. Top man!
Searched how to back up a harrow and came across this.
Need seen a load choker before but I HAVE seen the trick with the shackle. Used it a time or two after and I like it.
Thanks for sharing. Cheers
Cheers Mate.
Superb tricks yaaro 🍁🥀🍁
Cheers Tim.
Tim - Simple tricks are often the best tricks. Lots of videos out there on securing loads, but none like this. This video alone sold me on subscribing. Thanks for sharing the wealth.
Thanks mate. Hope I continue to deliver!
Load Chucker! Who’d of thought? Great idea, easy to store in back of the seat...you’ve got a LOT of very COOL ideas Mate!
Great Aussie invention. Tell ‘em Tim sent you!
Genius idea, yet so simple, thanks.
Personally I'd go the bow shackle as I can see in the worst case scenario the horse shoe shape snapping at the bend under extreme load pressures or just overtime. When it comes to safety thinking of the worst case scenario helps me in perventing it from ever happening.
The way I always tied timber post, steel pipes or even the PVC stormwater stuff was first to tie it together and over the top but after watching your video the bowie is my new best friend as it kills two birds with one stone.
I wish I stumbled on your channel years ago as farming is a hard game to learn on your own and this is a great from of visual learning.
Cheers for the great video and that bit of knowledge. Keep those tips and tricks coming and stay safe mate.
Save your cash on these load chokers these are made for heavier loads I use them from 2 tonne upwards on cylindrical loads at work.....
loads this small its safe yes but overkill.
If your just getting small loads like this in the back of your ute you can use the 2500kg straps and ratchets and choke the straps back on itself this works extremely well I've use this method on 5 tonne steel billets and never had a problem.
To choke a strap to a load
take the strap lock it to side of ute
go under load
then bring the strap around the top of load back to the strap
go under the strap
bring back over the top
ratchet down
done and you save over 150 bucks.
You ca do the same without extra hardware. Instead of using the shackle take a turn around the bite.
Anyway a really good channel. Thanks.
Tried your bow shackle trick today amazing . Keep up the great videos .
Thanks mate!
Cool video! But word to the wise, shackles are not designed to bear weight in that orientation (horizontally). Shackles are designed to bear weight in their vertical orientation (top of bow to the pin). Using it in a horizontal orientation drastically reduces the load capacity. With a simple truck load, it's probably not a big deal with a shackles that size... but it's not good practice.
But anyway, as I said... Cool video!
It is a choker not a shackle...
@@Guds777 The first device is a choker, however at 2:50 is a shackle
Great idea mate...E Bay here I come !! Thanks as always !!
Never seen this before.
Grear idea. Thanks Tim.
Excellent video, thanks for the tips, very professional.
I got in trouble off a Bunnings guy the other day when I tied some timber studs to my trailer the way you showed not to do. I thought a clove hitch around the load would help, but it still came a little loose. Now I have an excuse to get a big bow hitch (I only use ropes)! Thanks Tim 😁
Aaaahhhh the Bunnings guy.......
Thanks for this. I drove tractor/trailer in western Canada as a way to pay for school, hauling "bedbugs". Used the truckers knot (do it with twists in the rope to make the loop) to the furniture tears but have never seen this method of tying down an open load. (Hate open loads by the way - this will help me be more tolerant.)
I've been choking loads of fence posts for a few years now. I just feed the strap around its self, but it does take a bit longer and the friction can make it hard to get good tention. I actually have one tied on my ute and one on my trailer right now.
I was so excited learning about the load chocker I chocked my chicken.
Very good professional!!!
Great idea saves 2 straps I will get a few 1. A rear rack would make your life way easier especially with adjustable ladder dogs
Great video, thanks from Canada (that place north of the States), really liked the anchor shackle idea.
Thanks mate. They have them for chain too
I'm not going anywhere! great info Tim! cheers
Excellent videos, my man!
Made one of those many years ago. Never thought it would be commercially available.
Thank you so much, I have a learned a lot from you, regards.
Cheers
Damn. clever gadget. Must get one. Thanks mate.👍🏻
Ladder buckles can be used with 2 inch strap racket .
I think I'm going to make a set out of some modified horseshoes if it doesn't work out then I'll buy some
Great video
Awesome show. Algarythem
Thanks mate. Glad you like it.
good
Hi Tim, I love your videos and have found them full of practical useful advice. I have been wrapping the webbing strap around itself where you have placed the load choker. It is definitely a great way of stabilising difficult loads. I guess the advantage of the load choker is that it allows the strap to stay flat giving easier feed and a stronger outcome?
great products
I can't find them on EBAY or Amazon in the United States, looks like a good product
Would it be possible to make a video on using tarps? Laying them out and tying them over oddly shaped objects. I struggle with it a lot.
I’ll put it on the list mate. Great idea!
thanks! @@FarmLearningTim
Amazing
Good!!!
Hello great videos !!! Were can’t I finde the load choker ? Thanks
www.alllifting.com.au/products/load-choker
I usually just put the strap around the pipes and strap it tight then i put another strap to fasten it to the bed. But this is cool, but not everyone has specialty item like this...
👍🏻
It's ok but if you cross the rope around, CLAMP always the pieces without use of cricket. Anyway, also this that you show, Is a good solution.
Where can I get one of those in the US? I see so many cool things that come out of the AU, but you can't get them in the US! Swan hooks are another example. I've looked all over and they aren't sold here. Makes no sense.
Seriously though!,...I tried an experiment today with the "Load Choker" ,and just used one in the middle to see if it would hold three different steel loads, One a the load's were 20 cut angles, A single, 6 metre purlin and fifty 8 metre steel rods ,.. it did not hold!,. First sharp turn, I needed to pull over and secure the load again, I also had two other straps on both ends of the load, but alas..Faliure rate ..100%
Is it possible to show a link for those "load chokers" ? I cannot find them anywhere !!!
Thank you !
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Why start the trucker hitch from the driver side?
So your adjusting the load away from traffic
@@FarmLearningTim ahhh… ok, thanks you for the info.
Thank you for sharing the video.
Or you can just loop the strap or rope once around the load and tie-off...
I’ve been doing this for years
Same, I wrap my strap around the load. Been working great.
Wouldn't it be the same to just go around the load and then ratcheting/hitching? The loop on the rope would choke the load the same way and you don't need anything else. Would love an answer, greetings from Argentina!
Hi Thomas, no. The rope crosses over if wrapped and can bind leading to uneven tension each side, movement and loss of tension. This is for heavier, commercial loads where top performance is required. For small loads from the store, you would not notice the difference.
@@FarmLearningTim thanks for the answer! I usually carry small loads from the metal supply store and it has worked well, glad to know there's a next level lol
I would be afraid to use the load choker. If it broke the strap would become far too loose compared to strapping it down without it. I would use a single rope and put a loop in the rope to tighten the load together and another loop near the tie off point for a trucker hitch.
Never be afraid to choke your load..... Seriously though, they are so solid, the strap would break 100 times over before you bust em.
they are very hard and pretty much impossible to break if used correctly
they can hold a load up to 2500kg to 3000kg
Where can you find these for $20? The manufacturer site is selling them for $100 (pounds)!
I quoted the price off eBay at the time of filming. This is why I rarely quote prices in videos anymore.
@@FarmLearningTim All good my friend. It's a cool find and a great product. The manufacturer's site doesn't seem legit and everything is $100. Gives me some ideas though, super clever invention.
technically most of the world drives on the right hand side of the road... less than 1/6 of the world drives on the left hand side of the road.. and the only reason for the left hand side road drivers like Australia is outdated as it was started like that to keep the right hand free to use a sword while holding on to the reins of the horse with the left hand.. and where most people wore their swords with the point facing out of the persons left side drawing with their right, traffic would pass one another on the right side like australia traffic in order to avoid the sharp business end of the holstered swords...
Saw Them!.. Somewhere!, ..Got Them!.. Somewhere!, .. Using Them!, ..Loving Them! ..um!.. Somewhere??..Wow I Really Did Not Think That Through, Haha ..Boooo!!
How is that better than simply running the strap around the load???
@@FarmLearningTim Thanks. I now see it would be better. (I'm retired now, and no longer trucking, so I probably won't need that improvement,,,,, but thanks)
You're using the shackle wrong.
Need to turn it around.Rig chains, straps,ropes from bolt side and bottom out to 45°.
I meant to add, when the video was released a few weeks ago, I'm a shy wall flower. If you don't have the luxury of a bow shackle. And are working off the tools you have at hand. Most likely one of the shackles from your tow bar. If the rope end's up wrapping around the pin / bolt, Taking up the tension on the rope, can spin the pin / bolt undone. Its a 50/50 chance, I'm aware of it now after being caught out a few times. 2 in 25 years of using that knot. Now days I loop that, so as it might tighten the pin clockwise.
Doesn't apply with the Bow shackle, as Tim showed it, as long as it stays on each side of the bow, but be careful, if your rope end's up wrapped around the pin. Typically it doesn't fails, if it runs it all the way out of the thread, it will pinch on the clearance hole, but that seriously derate's the strength of the shackle. My advice is to look at the pin, just to ensure its still up to the shoulder.
Other than that. its a sensational method. Bundling things together. Load choker also do a chain version 8 or 10mm chain,for use with real dogs. Anything greater than 2,500kg L.C. Concrete pipes come to mind
the camera angle made it impossible for me to discern if your truckies knot is the same truckies knot ive been using for 30 years. i had to get a mate to throw it onto a steel frame in my yard so i could copy it. and when i wasnt at home i was in trouble. through careful analysis of his procedure i devised a far simple way to do it and show others - eg people at bunnings. but ive got an easier knot to show them now. the double 8 knot. i say "that knot you know how to do to put a loop in the rope, i call that the bastard knot because its a bastard to undo. however if you just go around one extra half a turn before you pull it through the loop its a professional riggers knot called a double 8. and its easier to remember. now you're a rigger". ive had this conversation many times. and as people who know me have found out - dont touch my rope. get away from my rope. i'll do that thankyou. i'll coil that up thankyou. i actually got shown an improvement on my truckies knot by a shipwright that cant come undone if the rope slacks off. you put the loop that was pulled through back through from the other side - i bet that doesnt make sense to anyone.
Was laughing my ass off all the way through this video sorry it's just me I have a dirty mind of a five-year-old
They sent me a beanie. Has the logo on the front.