A very similar demonstration to another video make in NZ except delivered with slightly more charisma. Equally the best technique though which is exactly what people search for. 👍
This fella is the best teacher out. I dunno if you rehearse your videos but you are bang on no stuff ups, clear and precise with your instruction. Just fantastic and a joy to watch. Cheers mate
After an incident today I found your video. Yesssss. I always just make a bunch of sloppy excessive ties and hope for the best. Well after this morning I decided it's time to learn a proper method! Brilliant 👏 thanks and cheers 🍻
You are half correct I putting half twist in your strap and stops vibrations, but it's illegal now and has been for lot of years now. So might be ok on private property, but not on main roads. Wrote from my hubby
I have to say mate that many of your videos are gold dust. This is so damn useful, why did I not know this stuff? It ought to be taught in schools. Thank you.
Haha funny you posted this video, I just took my rubbish bin down and found a cheap tie down strap beside the road. Bit stiff but I will find a use for it. Free strap, no complaints here.
Tim Thompson something else you could have added. Is spraying the ratchet with some wd 40 to wash out some of the dust etc. I see so many people struggling with old dry ratchets when they can simple spray them and have a good working ratchet and make the straps that little easier to use.
Thank you for this video, Was searching thru other YT videos and they weren't very helpful for a gal like me trying to figure how to use hatchets on a new ute. Cheers
Now this is information I can use, I live in Canada and have had this problem for years, never did find a good solution till now. Thanks for a job well done, I have been watching your fencing article for some time, they are all good. And I can say that the hooks on the ends of the ratchet straps seem to operate great as they look like they will stay hooked up even if there is slack in the strap, unfortunately I have never seen them for sale anywhere in Canada, our loss I suppose.
Thanks Tim, I am still binge watching to catch up. But that was a brilliant demo, I had been doing about 90% of what you did with the loose end but now I am on top of it, cheers
Away from traffic, love that and know where you coming from. But in NSW, drivers here are too lazy to walk around their cars. I seen kids being unload against traffic, door wide opened. I was totally shocked when I first saw this when I came to NSW. Care factor zero as long it's easy. Thanks Tim for some common sense tips :)
Great video Tim! I use the first method you showed for securing the straps, definitely going to try the second. A short off-cut of lay-flat hose works great to protect the straps over sharp corners. 😉
Love you vids. Perhaps you could do a video on using a ratchet strap the pull objects. I used one the other day to pull my ride on lawn mower out of a small muddy spot
Definitely appreciate the videos you publish. Great job on this one. Will definitely put it into practice. As someone who's been guilty of straps being dragged on the road. This is a sure way to stop that from happening ever again. Thanks!
Great video, use all the same methods when strapping down a load. Got to be careful with the half twist to stop the vibration down here in Tassie transport blokes will fine you $160 per strap with a twist. The guy delivering our fertiliser got done for 10 straps once, expensive day out, couple of years ago now might have changed. Its all to do with vortex induced vibration (VIV) its a whole field of engineering study, learnt a bit about when doing my engineering degree. It the same reason that all the tall cooling towers/smoke stacks etc. have helical strakes on them. Keep up the videos.
I'm a truck drive in nsw and qld. It is the same rule hear for the twist in the strap. They are not designed to have a twist and it weaken to down force the strap as on your load. Also not sure if you know the rating on the strap refers to the force load restrant the strap and aply to the load in the best best case scenario. The angle of the strapping plays a big role on the load force the strap can apply. All way if in doubt add more straps. A good read is the link below www.ntc.gov.au/codes-and-guidelines/load-restraint-guide
Mate you got any reference to either of those comments? I believe Vortex Induced Vibration is specifically WHY consistent cylindrical structures (think chimney etc) have fluting to modify the vortex shedding. ie effectively give the structure a "twist" to disrupt the vortices and prevent periodic oscillations. I'm currently doing my HR ticket and the National Transport Commission Load Restrain Guide specifically says that webbing straps can be given half a twist to "help prevent vibration and flapping" and they provide a diagram of a half twist.
@@FarmLearningTim G'day Tim, here's a link to that guide if you're interested. It has some pretty good stuff in it for securing loads, even if not doing a Hx vehicle licence. www.ntc.gov.au/sites/default/files/assets/files/Load-Restraint-Guide-2018.pdf page 170 is that reference. What you can't do is knot them up or twist them like crazy. My area of interest is ME and not civil engineering, but I'm definitely somewhat familiar with VIV. As Callum said, fluid dynamics is a whole subject in most engineering courses so it's not like a one liner to describe it. But if you look at most towers, masts, chimneys etc they will either be tapered or have spiral flutes up them. The latter are called helical strakes and act much like to twisting the strap; it disrupts the vortices so they're broken up into smaller ones and don't shed in one big vortex that coincides with the resonant frequency of the flexible structure. It's why guy wires etc howl like a banshee in certain winds. ... or why straps may wear prematurely if they're not given a half twist ;) Great channel BTW. Subscribed. Only watched a couple of videos so far but you gave some very good tips. Looking forward to learning more. Thanks!
@@886014 No reference as such mate just what the driver told us when he arrived. I think Tim hit the nail on the head with it depends on interpretations, the transport people at the time may have simply had a hard stand on no twists or the driver could have had more than a half twist. Looking at the load restrain guide (looks a good resource) first thing it says about using webbing is "no knots or twists" then it says a "half turn may help to prevent...", only takes someone to read the first point and ignore the second to get someone in trouble. Don't get me wrong i would still put the twist in and you have a good reference should any one disagree with it being so clear in the diagram. 100% VIV is why, as you said, chimneys/cooling towers etc have the helical strakes (fluting) on them, you will see them everywhere once you know what they are for. Cheers.
I work with a truckie in sa that also drives alot in nsw, he says its illegal, or unsafe atleast to have your excess on the drivers side purely because if it flaps in the wind, its likely to hit passerbys or get caught on a load flying passed
Fab tips Tim - oddly going to pickup 4 IBCs later this week - so will be both ratcheting and tying down. loved the loose end tip as thats a new one for me.
I just started managing a 600 acre beef ranch in Washington State in the USA. It’s all electric fence with broken wire all the time. Your videos have saved me...
Great work thanks Tim. Just one question about this video please? Why didn't you add half a twist to the rachet side of the tie-down? Didn't realise adding half a twist would eleviate that vibration - excellent advice thanks mate!
The twist “spills” air, so does the ratchet. I’m told that in some states people are being fined for twisting the strap, the story being that the load rating is slightly decreased. although I have not seen anything where I’m from.
wish I'd watched this before i overwound my straps lol. Do you have tips for hooking on the types that only have a simple hook (not the two piece hook that yours have?), Or, is the main tip, 'get new straps'? ty
Hi just wondering if you have any safety tips for transporting these water tanks? I have a single cab Falcon ute with a load limit of 1250kg and I want to pick up and transport one of these 1000L IBC tanks full of water. I'm not finding much info on how to secure it, where to place the load in the tray and what to be careful of when transporting water like this? Any help is appreciated, cheers
G’day. Load limits sometimes include the weight of your tray. Careful. Never transport partially full tanks without baffling. Consult the RTA about load restraints for loads. They have fact sheets. It’s up to date and legally spot on. I would be reluctant to transport a full IBC on my Ute on the road.
Hey Tim, Why don’t we put a have twist on the ratchet side of the load to stop the vibration? I have seen a few similar videos to this one and Noonan seems to explain why the half twist is needed on one side but not the other
Unfortunately I have heard from truckies that have been fined for having a half twist in the tie down as this technically decreases the load rate of the strap. Although a twist in the side opposing the ratchet stops vibration, advising people to do this could lead to them being fined in this country. Hope that makes sense.
@@FarmLearningTim Tim I hear what you are saying about law enforcement fining you about the reduction of strength due to the second half twist. The question I would ask the officer concern is where do you get the reduction in the SWL of the tie down and the degradation of the SWL. If manufactures are saying that the twist is not recommended then you can not even put the first half twist in the strap. The twist the way I see it is not different than a twist in a rope. If however you have a knot in the middle of a rope/strap that will reduce the SWL/tension on either. If the manufacturer has specifically said no twist we have no option, if we can twist, then like rigging a lift with a crane depending on the angle depends on SWL. Some law enforcement will try anything to get a ticket, or attitude adjust the member of the public. I wonder if the law will prosecute you if for some reason in todays car you go past another vehicle and the vibration noise startles them and have an accident due to the distraction. Food for thought. All in all great information and teaching. Thank you.
from talking to a mate who drove road trains in western australia, the heavy vehicle coppers always used to harass truckies about the twist. and the truckies always argued back. its probably only novice coppers pick on this now. as for the no-twist on the tensioner side, i'd suggest it isnt needed because it doesnt have a long uninterrupted length to vibrate and sing in the wind because of the tensioner and excess strapping. a big high load will probably need the twist on both sides.
@@FarmLearningTim , the cheapies from bunnings are single use items. its interesting the north americans say they dont have access to these decent straps. what must they be using?
Tim I have washed your YT's for a number of years, and I have just released that did not address the half twist on the down side of the load. Also why would have strap of 4 metres plus in length. To me that is a waste of strap by the company who produced that tie down.
I have watched SO MANY ratchet strap videos over the years. This is, without question, the best one I've ever watched. KUDOS and thanks!
This video saved my relationship with ratchet straps.
I really like your clever perspective on things! Greetings from Germany!
A very similar demonstration to another video make in NZ except delivered with slightly more charisma. Equally the best technique though which is exactly what people search for. 👍
You have nicer tie-downs where you are than we have in the States.
This fella is the best teacher out. I dunno if you rehearse your videos but you are bang on no stuff ups, clear and precise with your instruction. Just fantastic and a joy to watch. Cheers mate
Great lesson on key steps to using tie downs.
After an incident today I found your video. Yesssss. I always just make a bunch of sloppy excessive ties and hope for the best. Well after this morning I decided it's time to learn a proper method! Brilliant 👏 thanks and cheers 🍻
Tips I didn't think I needed. Once again great video keep up the great work.
Great info....I'm showing my son.
Excellent well explained content.
You are half correct I putting half twist in your strap and stops vibrations, but it's illegal now and has been for lot of years now. So might be ok on private property, but not on main roads. Wrote from my hubby
Yep. It’s due an update!
fantastic content. well presented, and you included the most important detail: saying at least once "she's not going anywhere."
Heheheh
@@FarmLearningTim my only disappointment was that i didn't hear you twang the straps!
@@itsOculus definitely next time!
Brilliant Tim! Thanks for sharing
Top bloke Mr Thompson
You my man deserve a VB
Hands down, the best video I've seen on tie downs. I had no idea I was doing so many things wrong when using tie downs!
Super helpful! Thank you✌️💗
thanks for the tips. im new to trucking and this is exactly what i like to know. glad i found this video on youtube.
I have to say mate that many of your videos are gold dust. This is so damn useful, why did I not know this stuff? It ought to be taught in schools.
Thank you.
Hahaha.... I do teach it in school.... it’s just not on the curriculum 🤣
Haha funny you posted this video, I just took my rubbish bin down and found a cheap tie down strap beside the road. Bit stiff but I will find a use for it. Free strap, no complaints here.
Tim Thompson something else you could have added. Is spraying the ratchet with some wd 40 to wash out some of the dust etc. I see so many people struggling with old dry ratchets when they can simple spray them and have a good working ratchet and make the straps that little easier to use.
very informative, great video. thanks Mate.
Great idea! Thanks! From Minnesota, USA!
The best by a mile ,the camra work on the strap a1
Great tips
Great video. Thanks
Bloody brilliant.
Good video. I have done it this way for years and it works very well. I would have put a half twist on the ratchet side as well though.
This is brilliant and so useful. Thank you from Canada!
Great pointers.
I sure like your straps hooks. Very clever security feature.
Thank you for this video, Was searching thru other YT videos and they weren't very helpful for a gal like me trying to figure how to use hatchets on a new ute. Cheers
Fantastic! Thanks from Michigan in the US
What a great demo, best ive seen...........Thanks for your time its appreciated.
Now this is information I can use, I live in Canada and have had this problem for years, never did find a good solution till now. Thanks for a job well done, I have been watching your fencing article for some time, they are all good. And I can say that the hooks on the ends of the ratchet straps seem to operate great as they look like they will stay hooked up even if there is slack in the strap, unfortunately I have never seen them for sale anywhere in Canada, our loss I suppose.
Wow great tips Tim👍❤️it
Great vid mate thanks for sharing
As always, the most helpful vid out there. Now i know how use these ratchet tie downs properly on my ute. Thanks mate!
Thanks, Tim Thompson - another great video with really useful tips for stuff I always wanted to know but never could find a teacher
Should be standard viewing for every ute purchase. Good tips and clear instructions. Cheers
This is a great demo mate everyone es needs to learn this
Thanks Tim, I am still binge watching to catch up. But that was a brilliant demo, I had been doing about 90% of what you did with the loose end but now I am on top of it, cheers
Great vid
Great work, nicely done.
Away from traffic, love that and know where you coming from. But in NSW, drivers here are too lazy to walk around their cars. I seen kids being unload against traffic, door wide opened. I was totally shocked when I first saw this when I came to NSW. Care factor zero as long it's easy. Thanks Tim for some common sense tips :)
Great video Tim! I use the first method you showed for securing the straps, definitely going to try the second. A short off-cut of lay-flat hose works great to protect the straps over sharp corners. 😉
Love you vids. Perhaps you could do a video on using a ratchet strap the pull objects. I used one the other day to pull my ride on lawn mower out of a small muddy spot
Definitely appreciate the videos you publish. Great job on this one. Will definitely put it into practice. As someone who's been guilty of straps being dragged on the road. This is a sure way to stop that from happening ever again. Thanks!
Absolutely awesome from the UK. 😀😀😀
I’ve used so many zip ties. Wish I had found this sooner haha
Great video, use all the same methods when strapping down a load. Got to be careful with the half twist to stop the vibration down here in Tassie transport blokes will fine you $160 per strap with a twist. The guy delivering our fertiliser got done for 10 straps once, expensive day out, couple of years ago now might have changed. Its all to do with vortex induced vibration (VIV) its a whole field of engineering study, learnt a bit about when doing my engineering degree. It the same reason that all the tall cooling towers/smoke stacks etc. have helical strakes on them. Keep up the videos.
I'm a truck drive in nsw and qld.
It is the same rule hear for the twist in the strap. They are not designed to have a twist and it weaken to down force the strap as on your load. Also not sure if you know the rating on the strap refers to the force load restrant the strap and aply to the load in the best best case scenario.
The angle of the strapping plays a big role on the load force the strap can apply. All way if in doubt add more straps.
A good read is the link below
www.ntc.gov.au/codes-and-guidelines/load-restraint-guide
Mate you got any reference to either of those comments? I believe Vortex Induced Vibration is specifically WHY consistent cylindrical structures (think chimney etc) have fluting to modify the vortex shedding. ie effectively give the structure a "twist" to disrupt the vortices and prevent periodic oscillations.
I'm currently doing my HR ticket and the National Transport Commission Load Restrain Guide specifically says that webbing straps can be given half a twist to "help prevent vibration and flapping" and they provide a diagram of a half twist.
@@FarmLearningTim G'day Tim, here's a link to that guide if you're interested. It has some pretty good stuff in it for securing loads, even if not doing a Hx vehicle licence. www.ntc.gov.au/sites/default/files/assets/files/Load-Restraint-Guide-2018.pdf page 170 is that reference. What you can't do is knot them up or twist them like crazy.
My area of interest is ME and not civil engineering, but I'm definitely somewhat familiar with VIV. As Callum said, fluid dynamics is a whole subject in most engineering courses so it's not like a one liner to describe it. But if you look at most towers, masts, chimneys etc they will either be tapered or have spiral flutes up them. The latter are called helical strakes and act much like to twisting the strap; it disrupts the vortices so they're broken up into smaller ones and don't shed in one big vortex that coincides with the resonant frequency of the flexible structure. It's why guy wires etc howl like a banshee in certain winds. ... or why straps may wear prematurely if they're not given a half twist ;)
Great channel BTW. Subscribed. Only watched a couple of videos so far but you gave some very good tips. Looking forward to learning more. Thanks!
@@886014 No reference as such mate just what the driver told us when he arrived. I think Tim hit the nail on the head with it depends on interpretations, the transport people at the time may have simply had a hard stand on no twists or the driver could have had more than a half twist. Looking at the load restrain guide (looks a good resource) first thing it says about using webbing is "no knots or twists" then it says a "half turn may help to prevent...", only takes someone to read the first point and ignore the second to get someone in trouble. Don't get me wrong i would still put the twist in and you have a good reference should any one disagree with it being so clear in the diagram.
100% VIV is why, as you said, chimneys/cooling towers etc have the helical strakes (fluting) on them, you will see them everywhere once you know what they are for.
Cheers.
Regardless of the legality, why did you put a half twist on one side only? Where possible I put a twist on both sides to stop the vibration
I work with a truckie in sa that also drives alot in nsw, he says its illegal, or unsafe atleast to have your excess on the drivers side purely because if it flaps in the wind, its likely to hit passerbys or get caught on a load flying passed
Thanks internet dad
Thanks Great video and very informative
Fab tips Tim - oddly going to pickup 4 IBCs later this week - so will be both ratcheting and tying down. loved the loose end tip as thats a new one for me.
awesome vid. glad I subscribed. why does the twist keep it from flapping in the breeze?
Thanks so much for all your tips.
I just started managing a 600 acre beef ranch in Washington State in the USA. It’s all electric fence with broken wire all the time. Your videos have saved me...
Great work thanks Tim.
Just one question about this video please?
Why didn't you add half a twist to the rachet side of the tie-down?
Didn't realise adding half a twist would eleviate that vibration - excellent advice thanks mate!
The twist “spills” air, so does the ratchet. I’m told that in some states people are being fined for twisting the strap, the story being that the load rating is slightly decreased. although I have not seen anything where I’m from.
Thanks Tim. Question from USA. What are the pants/trousers called? Classic Aussie farmer 👩🌾. Go with Blunstone boots?
They are Thomas Cook. Geez they should sponsor me eh?
Good lesson Tim, I found the IBC cage a bit delicate for strap over and a lot safer if threaded thru on to the plastic drum, a pain but -
very useful video tim
Excellent thank you Tim
Very informational thank you for sharing
Great information Thanks
You are AMAZING!
Awesome as always mate
Brilliant thank you 👏
wish I'd watched this before i overwound my straps lol. Do you have tips for hooking on the types that only have a simple hook (not the two piece hook that yours have?), Or, is the main tip, 'get new straps'? ty
Nah, you should be right. My orange straps which are my go-to straps don't have locking rings. I just hang them on the back!
Very interesting Tim.
Never saw a ratchet strap hook end with the keeper clip.
Also never heard of a "shuttle".
Called a "cube" or an "IBC" over here.
10/10
Awesum
Hi just wondering if you have any safety tips for transporting these water tanks? I have a single cab Falcon ute with a load limit of 1250kg and I want to pick up and transport one of these 1000L IBC tanks full of water. I'm not finding much info on how to secure it, where to place the load in the tray and what to be careful of when transporting water like this? Any help is appreciated, cheers
G’day. Load limits sometimes include the weight of your tray. Careful. Never transport partially full tanks without baffling. Consult the RTA about load restraints for loads. They have fact sheets. It’s up to date and legally spot on. I would be reluctant to transport a full IBC on my Ute on the road.
Not sure if it's true, but I was told by truck driver that that they were being bombed by the road authorities for having a twist in the strap.
Yes in some states that is true
Hey Tim,
Why don’t we put a have twist on the ratchet side of the load to stop the vibration?
I have seen a few similar videos to this one and Noonan seems to explain why the half twist is needed on one side but not the other
Unfortunately I have heard from truckies that have been fined for having a half twist in the tie down as this technically decreases the load rate of the strap. Although a twist in the side opposing the ratchet stops vibration, advising people to do this could lead to them being fined in this country. Hope that makes sense.
@@FarmLearningTim Tim I hear what you are saying about law enforcement fining you about the reduction of strength due to the second half twist. The question I would ask the officer concern is where do you get the reduction in the SWL of the tie down and the degradation of the SWL. If manufactures are saying that the twist is not recommended then you can not even put the first half twist in the strap. The twist the way I see it is not different than a twist in a rope. If however you have a knot in the middle of a rope/strap that will reduce the SWL/tension on either. If the manufacturer has specifically said no twist we have no option, if we can twist, then like rigging a lift with a crane depending on the angle depends on SWL. Some law enforcement will try anything to get a ticket, or attitude adjust the member of the public. I wonder if the law will prosecute you if for some reason in todays car you go past another vehicle and the vibration noise startles them and have an accident due to the distraction. Food for thought. All in all great information and teaching. Thank you.
from talking to a mate who drove road trains in western australia, the heavy vehicle coppers always used to harass truckies about the twist. and the truckies always argued back. its probably only novice coppers pick on this now. as for the no-twist on the tensioner side, i'd suggest it isnt needed because it doesnt have a long uninterrupted length to vibrate and sing in the wind because of the tensioner and excess strapping. a big high load will probably need the twist on both sides.
They're surprisingly cheap too. About $20 each
Tim, where can a guy get straps like you use in this video?
Cheapies from Bunnings mate!
@@FarmLearningTim , the cheapies from bunnings are single use items. its interesting the north americans say they dont have access to these decent straps. what must they be using?
Why no half twist on the passenger side?
The weight of the ratchet stops vibration.
@@FarmLearningTim oh that makes sense! Thank you for your help!
I thought you weren't allowed a twist in the strap ?
That’s true in some states now
Tom lets go home im hugrey
Tim I have washed your YT's for a number of years, and I have just released that did not address the half twist on the down side of the load. Also why would have strap of 4 metres plus in length. To me that is a waste of strap by the company who produced that tie down.
1: stops vibration (some police will fine truckies for doing it)
2: they are truck straps hence length. Can be cut and burned short if you want