@@rileybear836 She was never judgemental? She was really nice about it, actually. She was just saying to learn from people who actually KNOW the language
@@raymondthecartoonenjoyer4803 eh she seems too condescending. Like “omg this girl was so bad; just learn from real deaf people🙄🙄” ; without so much as “I really appreciate she was trying hard to learn another language” If someone tried to learn English but they only learned from TV, I wouldn’t judge them for getting some things wrong or condescending to them for not learning from a native speaker. I’d appreciate that they were trying. I’ve seen the video several times and it just always comes off as rude and condescending to me.
@@youraveragecityshulker eh I dunno. If someone is attempting to learn something, I’m appreciative of that. To me, she basically did the equivalent of rolling her eyes at the attempt the person was making.
@@batsuey not really. Most of this girl’s posts come off this way. Not sure if it’s just her delivery but that’s just how it comes off to me (and about 600+ other people). Literally.
@@skurge8691yeah, 1st why does it look like she isn't in sinc with the audio? 2nd if you are deaf you can't speak normally because you can't hear what you are saying. 3rd mabey she wasn't deaf until she learned how to speak but she should probably have some problems
i learned those signs from my deaf asl teacher. i assume they're either older signs or regional ones - all the professors in my college's asl department are from different areas of the country and they often argue over signs or my prof disagrees with some signs in the curriculum the university buys. mixups like this can happen even when we try to do everything right as students
yes! and this is the case with all languages. there are dialects, accents, nonverbal cues, and other nuances that can affect how two speakers of the same language understand one another. there’s not really ONE correct way to speak any language, including ASL! I think that’s part of what makes language so interesting :)
Makes sense since we have different words for things throughout the U.S. too that we could argue about being correct or not when I’m actuality they both are.
i believe she was deaf in one ear and then she gradually lost her hearing in in the other ear, i think she also take speech therapy classes but correct me if im wrong
I learned from a hearing teacher. Both of her parents are deaf and it was her first language, she learned to speak English later in life. She had an incredible outlook on deaf culture and it was by far my favorite class I have EVER taken.
My ASL teacher was also a CODA, he was a super chill guy. I am definitely not fluent in ASL and I have just awful memory in general, but that was a good class. Only took it for half a year
@@cindymartinmalong2356The girl doing the video is deaf in her left ear I believe and started developing it when she was a kid and it got worse, so now she's fully deaf in that ear. Learning it from a young age is very good for any language to get a good grasp
To be fair, in my asl class I was taught that because sign language was frowned upon for a big chunk of recent history, a lot of Deaf people would end up in little isolated communities, and so there ended up being a lot of variation in signs. But all of the asl teachers I knew in high school were either partially deaf or codas so there’s definitely something to be said about learning from people who have been singing for awhile
There’s also the fact that, until recently, you couldn’t really learn sign without meeting with a teacher in person. Pictures don’t convey the movements properly.
This is what makes me nervous about learning BSL (my country’s sign language). I worry that I’m going to learn signs that native speakers near me don’t actually use, despite having a Deaf teacher.
Also there’s naturally regional variations because sign is a whole other language, it’s normal to hear dialects in spoken. So it’s normal for there to be dialects in sign
Oh sheesh. I learned from a Deaf woman in Rochester and it was amazing. Total immersion. No speaking, no writing. She was brilliant at building our understanding of ASL up without any English
@@NoDefaultsPlease She was able to build our vocabularly remarkably quickly with context and repetition. Our brains made the connections. Immersion really does work when you have a teacher who understands how to build up from very basic. I got nearly fluent in the year I was in her class.
@@NoDefaultsPlease that’s how everyone learns a language! your first language you never got it taught for you you understood as a baby and made the connections, aren’t we smart?
My best friend’s parents were both deaf, they taught me sign language because I was there all the time and my friend didn’t want to translate for me anymore, now I’ve got a lifelong skill
The Vietnamese man who was doing my pedicure told me he always got upset because people would always tell him to learn how to speak proper English. I could bearly understand him myself. He said he got perfect grades in his English class and he worked really hard on learning English before he moved here. But he found out that the woman who taught him, English wasn't her first language and she taught him broken English with a strong accent. He literally learned wrong. Not his fault.
I recently learned that so many people that speak English as a second language speak broken English because of how things directly translate. Same thing happens in asl, it doesn't exactly translate directly and facial expressions are way more important than I ever knew. I always knew things didn't translate directly but I didn't quite realize how much sentence structure changes until I really started diving in. Now that I know, I get it and it gives me a whole new appreciation for people that take on learning English as their second language.
@@smogfry2005 people learn a language from the people they have access to, sometimes all you have access to is a non native speaker, meaning your version of the language will become a botched version of a botched version of the original
@@ordinrh1166 I get that, but sentence structure changes from language to language and dialects change from region to region. For example in Spanish you'd say mi hija tiene neuve anos which directly translated to English would be my daughter has nine years where as a native English speaker would say my daughter is nine years old.
I hate those kind of people the most. You’re in an establishment that speaks a different language so why don’t YOU learn to speak their language before you enter their safe zones 🙄
It’s because she wasn’t deaf for most of her life. The reason deaf people sound different is because they’ve never heard the sounds. So them trying to recreate it often sounds much different than how everyone else says it
@kaza12345678 I'm a musician. We playback the mic through headphones in real-time in order to hear ourselves - if you have the incorrect settings it causes a slight delay and you get the same thing. It's worse with actual delay or reverb. "I (I)... uh (uh)" Your brain is focused on something other than the noises that you are actively making - so it's probably not dissimilar than trying to form words when you can't hear them.
actually CODA's are really great ASL teachers. They can communicate well both as a hearing person and in ASL, so I think this can be beneficial for a lot of hearing people looking to learn. Of course a deaf person is great too. This worker could've also been speaking a different SL, sometimes it be like that. Edit: I would like to add as some others have mentioned that CODAs are native ASL speakers as well. And usually, you’ll find bilingual people are the best at teaching languages. I’ve taken several languages and not once has the teacher not been bilingual. Sometimes they’re native English speakers so they’ve learned the other language and can therefore teach it very well becuase native speakers don’t have to learn roots or conjugations or anything, or they’re native speakers and have learned English so they have experience learning a different language and can relate the similarities and differences to English. I am a polyglot and after learning my other four languages I only now can confidently say I would be able to teach English (native) to others because I understand how it works now. It’s very similar to CODAs. They’re really impressive and great at ASL just like deaf teachers.
Studies in other languages dont support this. You have much better outcomes when languages are taught by native speakers. Someone who relies on the language the most would truly know how to properly use that language. Way more than even the best interpreters i bet. And i bet most interpreters would agree.
@@NanatheBrave I didnt mean to offend anyone. I guess i am saying that someone who fully relies on the language as their main form of communication is a more reliable teacher
@@alysemarie8313 This is also not necessarily true. If I had to learn English, I wouldn't trust most english speakers(this is a problem with ESL teachers in other countries because the lack of teaching credentials). Just because you use a language or are dependent on it, doesn't mean you use it properly or in the most effective way. I've known deaf people(who could speak and chose to) who would talk about how some other deaf people would sign poorly(I don't entirely know what they meant by that).
@@alysemarie8313 You’re basically saying that bilingual people make worse language teachers. That’s not true. You’re also claiming that you need to speak the language every day to be fluent. Would you forget your native language if you moved to a new country and learned another?
Also, those finger nails a mile long makes it really hard to figure out. Like its distracting to me who can read a little of it ... she is not doing herself a favor right there. Sorry.
Your speaking is amazing. Out of all the deaf people I've seen on social media you speak the most clearly and it's amazing because usually when someone can't hear themselves they aren't sure if they're saying something correctly
@@heartv212 hell nah, internet cookies are used to sell your data despite the innocent intentions that they could be used to keep you logged in even if you leave and and come back to a same website. Why would you wish such a horrible fate to that guy?
Words In general have different meanings today. It’s like they change the dictionary on the daily. You should see me trying to talk to my teenager. She’s either laughing or highly embarrassed by me.
I'm coda and somethings you have said was book sign. Understand you are completing your life with what happened. There's more different ways. Sign language is just like accents or I compare to spanish therew different Spanish depending where you live.. don't worry just keep a open mind and learn. My fully born deaf mother taught me im hearing be open minded and don't be closed minded you will never learn anything with a closed mind
Those signs were taught to me as vanilla and chocolate from the older ASL instead of English signed. So I knew what you meant immediately. We had a deaf speaking teacher too.
Yeah, I immediately recognized that as an old way of saying vanilla and chocolate, since my ASL teacher when I was little was much older. The ASL teacher that I had in 2 years ago explained that all of the signs changed as the times went on, like how the sign for phone and computer have changed.
Does she tells the story of a deaf girl in a shop or is she deaf and speaking that way? I have never heard a deaf person speaking with tones and so much expression in the voice, that's perturbing for me
I learned a little from my sister. She's not deaf but went to school to become a sign language interpretor. Sign language was a passion of hers when we moved across the country and a deaf person became her best friend. This unfortunately got cut short when she had an accident and lost part of her hearing (a significant hearing loss in one ear only), a month before the exams. That's one of the biggest barriers you could have in that career, so she was never able to have her dream job. The irony of it is cruel. (She's okay now and has a new passion, her kids)
I took an ASL course my first year out of high school and the professor was deaf... Do you have any idea why your sister wasn't able to pursue something like that instead? Did she not want to teach? Genuine questions by the way. I'm just curious, not trying to be rude 😅
My ASL teacher is hearing but she’s been to Gallaudet University and I think she’s pretty education in formal sign language. She tells us about the culture, etiquete, and she has us use sources online from actual deaf people to check our signing. I love communicating with people. Okay fine maybe it shouldn’t be a requirement for jobs but I *suggest* that it should be taught in high school. Especially if the career or job you want requires talking to a wide variety of people. And yes while Deaf/HOH people could write their communications down it doesn’t give them same fulfilling effect as face to face conversation. Because then the Deaf/HOH people are communicating through a piece of paper, not an actual person
my ASL teacher is also hearing and also went to Gallaudet University and she teaches us formal and non formal so that when we actually are fluent in ASL we dont look dumb using only the formal signs! also she is the sweetest lady ever i love her sm!
@@cottoncandiez8872 This. Making it a job requirement now could bar a lot of lower income adults from entire industries, but adding it to the curriculum could make it so that going forward, a lot more people can reliably communicate in ASL; not to mention, the younger you are, the easier it is to learn languages, so they might be able to retain that information.
@@_stupidbro We use ASL throughout the district I work in, have D/HH classrooms and a Deaf high school that's integrated into a mainstream high school so there's a good number of millennials and Gen Z who know enough ASL to help someone in an emergency. It's really helpful that the community college actually got ASL recognized as a foreign language and is a transferrable, thus further encouraging students who want most gen ed classes completed.
Vanilla or chocolate aren't usually the first words someone trys and learns in asl which means that girl went out of her way to learn those sign on the chance a deaf person walked in to that shop so she could communicate with them.
My mom was a volunteer sign language interpreter for the courthouse in Florence, Alabama from time to time. She grew up with a cousin that was deaf and aside from his immediate family members my mom was the only one who was fluent in ASL. Growing up she always signed I love you (🤟🏼) to my brothers and I and I still do it to this day to people I love. She taught me some but I’m not fluent in ASL. I wish I were. My mom passed away 6 years ago after a long struggle with addiction. She was so troubled but she taught me so much and had a heart of gold. I miss her everyday ❤ *EDIT*- Wow 😮 I’ve never gotten so many likes. It makes me happy that a good memory may have resonated with some of y’all 😊 Thank you guys for all the likes and kind comments 🤗
My condolences on the loss of your Mom. Addiction is a horrible place to be. I hope you and yours know the signs, and protect yourselves from it in the future. Stay safe and healthy out there and know you are loved.
Sorry to hear about your mom. Glad you have good memories of her, and that your view of her hasn't been skewed by her addiction. May she rest and be at peace from her disease. ❤
@@waltbauer1003 thank you and I agree. I went through a long phase of not wanting to talk to or see her because of her addiction but as I got older and after she passed I was left with a crazy amount of guilt for not seeing her as the person she was behind her addiction. I’ve definitely lived my life knowing that addiction runs in my family and I don’t want to end up the same way that so many others in my family have. But I’ve come to learn a lot about addiction and I’ve changed my perspective about the people who suffer with it. After a while it isn’t a choice anymore and it causes physical and psychological pain to the people who suffer with it. I wish I thought the same way while my mom was still here. Seeing her go through everything she did and looking back with hindsight gives me a great deal of empathy for people struggling with mental health issues. People who are poor and struggle with their mental health tend to self medicate and that’s where the addiction begins.
As someone who has been learning ASL for 10+ years, this is normal. Because ASL is still American English, but with your hands, it's the same words. It's like how you can type or write and speak those words at the same time. Obviously, it sounds weird when typing or writing because our writing / typing speed isn't as fast as our spoken speed, but ASL has a lot of shortcuts and is intended to be as fast as American English. Also, you don't speak Sign Language... you just sign.
@@XoIoRouge you’re probably talking about sign supported English (SSE) and not ASL, since the grammar system is different for ASL than English and words and phrases sometimes don’t line up properly
@@YeetusTheFetus Did I mention I have 10+ years? I know I'm talking about Signing Exact English (SEE), but that's not important for educating the OP. On the internet, I never "teach" more than needed. (A) OP stated Lizzy's speaking and signing at the same time is impressive, which it is. (B) In the video, Lizzy is signing exact English. "One time I went coffee shop show worker my order" That's not ASL. That's SEE. See NOTE at the end. (C) Thus, OP was impressed that SEE and Spoken English could be done at the same time, and I "blurred" the line between ASL and SEE because it's not important to distinguish the two. This way, if OP or anyone reading is interested by this idea, I'm not shoehorning and entire subconcept of Sign Language in with it - and if they're inspired or encouraged to learn more about ASL, they'll figure out SEE on their own. NOTE: If she isn't SEE, and what I'm seeing here IS ASL, then I actually can't tell the difference anymore because my brain automatically registers ASL as Exact English. But I highly doubt it based from experience.
@@XoIoRouge I'm not deaf, but I think it's very important to distinguish between the two. ASL is a different language, with different grammar and vocab that developed independant of spoken English (and is in fact more closely related to LSF than it), and I think it's really sad when people think that sign is just "spoken language but signed" and don't recognize sign language as its own, independant language.
@@randompikmin4103 We have different priorities then. I do not think it's important to distinguish between the two IFF the person I'm talking to (OP) has never learned ASL in the first place. There's no point in adding "What you're seeing is not ASL, but actually SEE (or SSE)." Here are a few of the issues I can theorize by specifying this statement at this time: (1) Adds possible confusion because they thought it was ASL by default (2) Adds words for me to explain the difference between ASL and SEE, which is just extra work for me. (3) Doesn't change my statement: ASL as a language CAN be spoken and signed at the same time - I do it all the time. (4) Due to the fact that my intention (point 3 above) is still accurate, I show restraint on "Over-Educating" - where I teach too much which causes the topic I'm teaching to be missed due to the extra fluff or confusion. (5) I look like an "Um, Actually" nerd. If I was teaching this to a classroom, or someone who ASKED me to teach them, then I will explain the difference. But if I'm informing a stranger online, out of my own volition, I do not want to sound imposing while still sparking interest in the language of ASL. (6) Some of my deaf friends sign strictly in SEE because that's what they were taught. Their community had a teacher who taught poorly and it caused most of the deaf folks (and their relatives) to learn SEE instead of ASL. The point I'm getting across here is that SEE isn't inherently bad or disrespectful to the language - that's a woke idea. NOT KNOWING THE DIFFERENCE is bad, sure, and should be taught, but I sign even SEE when I find myself a bit out of touch with the language and no one complains or is confused, realistically. (7) As I said in my prior post, whether I specify ASL or SEE, if the recipients are interested in learning because of what I said then they will find out about SEE on their own, from a qualified instructor. Honestly, I could probably list more reasons why overinforming is not useful here, but I'm getting to the nitty gritty and this post is getting long. I never said ASL isn't a language, and I don't expect what I said to make them think it isn't a language. I simply said, "You can do both at the same time!"
yeah i felt like she was mad at her for trying and i usually completely agree with her, this video made me kind of embarrassed as someone who is trying to learn sign…
@@popcanter188 I don’t think you understand how hard it is to sound normal while deaf. When you can’t hear your own voice you don’t know how to sound or how to correct your speech. It’s honestly quite insane how fluidly and normal she can speak.
basing off of how well she speaks, her ears may only be able to pick up vibrations from her own voice or anything loud enough to rattle her head - all deaf people "hear" differently, just like some blind people can tell if they're in a dark or bright room, even if they "can't see." It's a spectrum, like everything else :)
@@csonweedagain5054 that’s great but you can’t hear your own voice. You make up how your voice sounds in your head, that’s why you’re shocked when you hear how you sound in a video. So in a sense, she’ll never here how her voice really sounds.
@@Matteo_nr1_evermore_stan ? Your voice sounds different to you over the phone because your own voice physically vibrates your head, which vibrates the bones in the ear. When creating the telephone, it was discovered that you don't need as many low frequencies playing at a time to understand a voice, so to save on bandwidth and time they left those frequencies out - not to mention it would be playing out of a phone speaker, which is also missing many frequencies and most certainly not vibrating the head. All this is to say she (almost) definitely knows how she sounds 👍
I don't know her, but mostly it's when people already knew how to speak the language before they lose their hearing. Otherwise it's crazy amounts of work. I know a couple of people who were deaf at birth and some are very good, but I've never seen this level. Would never have been able to tell that she's deaf by listening to her, so if it's hard work... Hats off to you
I could be mistaking her for someone else, but I'm pretty sure that's not her voice. I've heard this exact story with her actual voice so I think this might be someone voicing over. If I did mix them up though, then I apologize for my mistake.
Your voice and linguistics are SO CLEAR. In my experience when speaking with someone non-hearing, their linguistics tend to be much less clear. Well done dude 👏
Yeah when I was a cashier at Walmart there was a deaf man that came in every so often, he’d try to ask me for specific cigs by talking but it honestly was very garbled. He’d get angry and walk off because no one understood. I don’t think I’ve ever heard someone speak this clearly.
It could also imply a few things. 1. She’s not actually deaf. 2. She’s only partially deaf. (Most probable) 3. She went deaf much later in life. 4. She went deaf at a young age but had practice to make sure her speech was fine. (Not realistic fyi) My bet is either option 1 and 2
@QueerAssTiefling your right, I was browsing RUclips shorts and it came up. So blame the RUclips gods for that. Also your right again, only deaf people I have ever interacted was my aunt basically my whole life and whoever she would be with at the time I’d see her. Also speculation not assumption, I took information and various assumptions from other comments to come up with a list of reasons that might prove logic given the scope of information I had on hand. Though at the end I did throw my own two cents on what I think would be the most likely options based on what people are known to do for their 5 seconds of fame and the given info I had on hand.
@@nouraa.9958lol. It would be a lot easier if it was that way, but ASL has a different grammar structure than English. It’s similar to the structure of French.
@@abigailginter4785 You don't understand my comment. I said that "ASL" isn't the word for sign language(s), ASL isn't signed in Germany, in Germany it's a completely different language.
Sure, but this isn't like learning a dialect, this is like learning German from a Swedish person that took lessons for a few years on it in secondary school 😅
It could also be a case of them learning a different sign language. I'm from the Philippines and we have FSL (Filipino Sign Language). Even though it's closer to ASL than like JSL or BSL, there's still significant differences to a lot of the words. And there's this internal struggle of "Should I learn my local sign or the 'international standard'?" Because of how much fewer accessible resources for FSL than ASL.
Difficult to know. I am learning french sign language... and it is different too. Logic, all languages are differents but difficult to know what is the best choice.
I'm trying to learn ASL as it's way easier to find material and stuff for it than my country's sign language. I've been researching how or where to learn sign language here and it seems to be non-existent, so yeah. Just will try to learn ASL, then it'd be easier to learn another one I guess
That's how I feel with Greek sign language! Asl is much more accessible with knowledge and I prefer to learn this language for now. But, I'd love to take classes for gsl someday!
@@MrBirdy-bf7rm Being deaf isn't just being a 100% death in both years. Some people are only deaf in one ear, or they are slightly deaf in one ear. Deaf people can still hear a little bit. Everyone is different.
@@HyperTheKappa Most people who’s born deaf doesn’t know how words are pronounced since they’ve never heard them. They are then usually really bad at talking and prounounciations. However, this girl talks with really good pronounciation and flow
@DinoDudeYT I'm aware, I have four years of ASL with a deaf teacher. I'm saying it is insensitive the way the commenter phrased a deaf accent as being "off tune". A lot of the comments on this video display a staggering amount of audism and say some things that rub me the wrong way, like "wow she talks so normal!"
@@HyperTheKappa waaah someone described something in a slightly different way than I find acceptable so I'm gonna cry on the internet to strangers waaaaaaaah 😢👶
Most of us don't know any deaf people unfortunately. I learned a few words online myself and the one and only time I ran into a deaf family (they were sitting next to us in a restaurant). When we were leaving the family waved me back because they realised that I had forgotten my bag. I did what I thought was the sign for "thank you", but by the confused look on their face I know it was very wrong and I just ran away very embarrassed.
She speaks really well! I didn't even realize she was deaf at first. Any deaf person I've met is at least a bit slurred because they can't hear themselves, so I was surprised
For reals! I'm in my 3rd year of asl in high school actually lol. And when I was homeschooled as a child, I really enjoyed watching asl videos which really helped a lot down the road when I started taking my hs classes. Idk why I learned it as a kid though. Because myself and everyone around me was hearing. but i really did enjoy learning it and I'm very happy to know as much as I do now💖🤟
@@Dramatic-Bunny name one time you have you the quadratic outside of school... I use math because I'm still in college for a BS degree and my job needs math but most people don't use the the higher levels of math that they force us to learn.
@@Dramatic-Bunny I dont think its important it would just be more useful. But people act like because they are deaf it's more important to learn asl than Spanish or something and I dont agree.
I think it's sweet how the girl tried to make an effort to understand and communicate with you. Glad it wasn't another case of Dunkin Donuts if you know what I mean.
I work at a dunkin. And I always try to make sure guests are able to order especially if they have any sort of disability. In the past the dunkin i work at was BS and the customers weren't happy. When I joined, if I know they cannot hear/speak etc. I just point or write things down for them. Anything helps as long as you try. I do need someone to teach me ASL though. That would be so much easier.
@Just someone Saying ASL (or any sign language) is easy to learn is kind of misleading - it's a whole different language, so I guess it's easy to learn in the way other foreign languages are easy (although I never found them easy). Some sign is easy to learn and really helpful to communicate - I work at an inclusive elementary school and we teach some sign to all the kids. It doesn't only help Deaf kids, but those with language delays as well, it's helpful for short instructions without yelling across the classroom, etc. Being fluent in sign is a lot harder though.
I use sign bank to learn Auslan. (Australian sign) the majority of people I've met who use sign are actually both hearing and technically speaking, but due to physical disabilities are unable to for words so either use pod books or sign. I also use sign for myself as I have neurological conditions that cause my brain and mouth to not always be connected and signing helps me not stumble if I sign and talk at the same time.
I love love love your content! I also love when you sign it's so beautiful and when your nails click together as you signing is just so weirdly satisfying for me that's a definite sound I will never take for granted as a hearing person❤️ Much love 🤟
@@summerbelleflowers8836 Generally for all things in life; it's never too late to learn. And if you feel like this would enrich your life and be a good tool for you, go for it. :)
@@summerbelleflowers8836 People ask themselves this too much. You learned things once, you're still the same you and you can learn again. Try, fail, try again. There is no shame in trying and failing (only in not trying), so there is no reason not to try!
I think it's amazing that the girl in the story wanted to learn ASL at all... Regardless of whom she learned from. I don't think everyone has the advantage of choosing who teaches them a skill... Personally, I just think it's awesome when anyone puts in the effort to learn.
You literally choose what skills you learn. And you choose whether or not to pay attention to whom Ian teaching as well as choosing whether or not to be taught by them. Just because someone has authority over you and can command you to listen and or act, in no way means you don’t have choice. You absolutely choose who teaches you because you choose what you take lessons and wisdom from. It is up to you, not anyone else to learn correctly with anything, that includes you doing your independent research into the teaching methods being used to educate you so that you can be certain whomever is teaching you, is actually doing so correctly.
@@fuckel98 you're right dude, therefore if someone ever tries to teach me a bit of deaf language i'll straight up refuse if they're able to hear. now i know nothing
Yes you're absolutely right Kelly. Beggars can't be choosers. She was happy the girl knew a little, and was trying. So that means she was happy this person learnt a little from a hearing person. Contradiction
Chocolate is very similar to that though. So she could’ve just messed it up on her own. I think it’s important that people learn ASL from deaf people, but I think it’s important and really special that people want to learn at all and it should be appreciated and welcomed with love.
The signs that the lady did for vanilla and chocolate is actually signed English which isn't official ASL so a lot of signs are similar in fashion but are still very different from ASL
@@timdadwagan a deaf teacher will always be the best teacher for sign languages. They're visual languages, if your teacher is talking to you while teaching, you're going to listen with your ears instead of your eyes.
@@rylieriot516 Sorry as I‘m not knowledgeable here, but wouldn’t a hearing child of deaf parents also be able to teach? Like shouldn’t they be able to choose not to speak for those lessons but then maybe also be able to explain some stuff which might be useful for complete beginners.
It doesn't matter who you learn from, there will be confusion with different signs. The nature of ASL and the way it is spread out different from any spoken language mean you inevitably will run into people using different signs for the same thing. It can be like entirely different dialects. There are tons of different slang signs and it varies a ton from region to region. Deaf, hearing, and many hard of hearing who live between both worlds communicate very differently with each other.
FR! I learned some ASL as a kid and then again in high school. It was easy for me but some signs were different and threw me off. Ppl for forget regional signs and accents. It was be VERY beneficial if someone worked to make ASL be a bit more standardized
@@emmypersonal4033 it won't work any better than trying to standardize close latin rooted languages. When you have people groups spread apart using and developing the language differently, it will always change over time differently from the rest. There is standardized ASL which is what you learn at school for it, but it can't teach you slang and modified or new signs.
Actually it does matter, hearing people interact with the world completely differently than deaf or CODA people. Yes there's a lot of slang and dialects. But notice how in telling her sorry she left out details like what barista looked like, and didn't "set the scene" for the story. She noticed all those details but in the deaf community those things aren't important yet or at all. Where if it was hearing person would they would describe how busy it was, the barista and their mood, and walking up to the counter. Also the deaf community has a different culture than hearing. So between those 2 things sign often gets destroyed by someone who learned from a hearing person. (And to some deaf people signing like how hearing person speaks is offensive.)
She's not signing ASL though, it's SEE, which is Signed Exact English. If you can write while you speak, then you can sign SEE while you speak, since it's not another language it's just a codified version of English
I'm learning NGT (dutch sign language) right now, in the Netherlands we have a college that teaches people to become translaters/teacher and more. Its mixed between deaf, hard of hearing and hearing people all learning together.
I have never heard a deaf person speak so clearly. I honestly could not tell you are deaf purely based on your voice. Your voice is lovely by the way 😊
My thoughts exactly. Either she lost it later in life or is faking it unfortunately. Her speech is flawless, which is nearly impossible for a deaf born person
@@Teh_Random_Canadian Everyone doesn't have a strong Deaf accent. If she got a cochlear really young and got a lot of speech therapy, this is indeed possible. EDIT: She was born hearing btw
@@Teh_Random_CanadianMaybe watch a couple of her videos before implying someone is faking? I've only seen a handful and I know she was born hearing and I believe still has a small amount of hearing in one ear.
I’m learning by myself from RUclips and TikTok because my son is nonverbal and so far he’s only using his hands to talk. It’s been a game changer. I didn’t realize you didn’t have to be deaf or be around deaf people for it to be as much of a benefit as it’s been. I’m still learning but I appreciate videos like this because I want to hear the voices in this community and I genuinely want to learn and educate myself. I wish I had an in person friend who could help me but maybe one day. Until then, I just hope I’m teaching my son the right signs so he doesn’t embarrass himself at the coffee shop someday ❤️
Nonverbal communication have Makaton and a variety of other things (I’m not discouraging you from ASL, but it might be easier for both of you. For example for blue, you trace a vein on the back of your hand, it has signs rooted in things that will make sense for you so it’s not a complete full-blown new language with different syntax.) Just a thought. I hope you’re going good today. Your son too. 🥰
My sister uses Proloquo (insurance pays for it) because sign language honestly isn’t great for nonverbals in society. They can still hear so speech devices like this can help them easily communicate with the hearing and verbal communities
Fun fact (according to a book I just read)! Deaf children who are introduced to sign language by hearing parents who aren't fluent are almost as proficient as those with Deaf parents. Children's brains are so primed to learn language that so long as they get SOME input, they can fill in the blanks with incredible accuracy.
@@actuallymario7676it’s possible I think, just incredibly difficult. You’d probably have to memorize the feel and “movement” of words more than anything
i thought this was gonna be a story of "we both know sign language...but for different languages so even deaf folk can experience language barriers its just not immediately apparent because of being deaf" but i like this one too~
The worst part is that asl signs are more common because of the media so I’ll sign in AusLan because I’m Australian and in Australia and they’ll try to use the asl they’ve seen in tv shows which is a completely different language. Idk the ASL alphabet so I can’t help you 😅
I mean it’s good that she tried. And yes ur right. Most of the time hearing people butcher signs but not always. My ASL teacher teaches deaf and hearing kids. She says she is a deaf person in hearing persons body, if that makes sense.
I get this! It’s just kind of equating me who never spoken Spanish before try and speak Spanish without getting my point across. I love when people try ASL don’t get me wrong but even when I corrected her signing (in a nice way) by showing her the right signs for vanilla and chocolate, she didn’t bother to correct them. It’s one thing to learn a language and it’s another thing to learn how to get people to understand the language you’re using if that makes sense. 💖
@@L1zHarris maybe it's possible she just couldn't see the difference between what you were signing and what she was? Like maybe the difference seemed subtle to her even though to you it's a clear difference. Like having an accent.
@@L1zHarrisid you know asl is approx 205 years old? And is more closely related to French sign-language than English? I wonder if the server was expressing an English language sign.
What’s wild is the fact that when my grandma went to her school for the Deaf , she wasn’t taught by teachers how to sign, she was just taught by other students. She didn’t finish out her schooling so whatever words she doesn’t know, she just finger spells so I think stuff like that is at sign gets varied so much.
I love how she does the I love you sign at the end because when I was little my grandma would always do the I love you sign to me and I would do it back even tho no one in our family was deaf
She tried her best. It's commendable that she learned ASL at all because most people don't even think twice about it, much less learn it. Yeah it might be good to learn from a deaf person but it's better to applaud her for her caring and effort because not everyone knows a deaf person in the first place.
Pretty sure she said she was excited to see that someone knew sign. But that's not the point of this video. If she doesn't also spread knowledge or advice on what hearing people can do better, then we'll never be able to improve and do it properly. And hearing people have a responsibility to accept that advice with humility. The right mentality to have for something like this is to understand that it's not commendable to learn sign because most people don't do it. It's commendable because you are trying to accommodate deaf people who also deserve the chance to live a life where they don't have to fight to communicate every single day - as in, you are being a decent person. So what does it say about hearing people if we are resistant to hearing feedback (and especially in this situation, since she provided that feedback very kindly)? Are we doing this for clout? Or are we actually trying to accomplish the goal we set out to accomplish? Yes, praise is fine. But no, I disagree that it is better than (kindly) pointing out places to improve.
My auntie didn’t learn asl I think and so we didn’t talk to her in it we just made some things like if you point at your sock then point upstairs she’ll understand you My aunt is really intelligent but she never had hearing aids before I mean she did but I don’t know if it worked
I'm fluent in sign language and I was taught by my deaf mother. And because my mom is deaf I grew up mostly using sign language because I was so used to it. I love it when I see other people use sign language it brings me so much joy in my heart.
The subtle differences turning the signs into gibberish is SO interesting to see as someone who is learning ASL. An upturned fist instead of downturned and signing on the first phalange instead of against the fist completely changes the sign enough to make it incomprehensible. This is a fantastic example of what second-language learners go through! ASL is such a great example because we’re both kind of using English, but are we really? Nope!
I’m learning from a hearing person but she went to Gallaudet, has deaf people in her household, and has been signing 10+ years. She’s a really awesome teacher.
CODAs (Children of Deaf Adults) and other hearing folks who grew up in the deaf community are great intersections of both cultures. I went to RIT (the other big deaf college) and some CODA friends introduced me to the community and taught me my first signs. So anyway, long winded way to say go you and it's a very valid way to start learning.
yeah, if you can share a language before learning ASL it'll be a lot easier to learn. If someone who doesn't speak your native tongue came to a class to teach a language you don't know it'd be a very slow process.
I took ASL in college and we gathered with deaf people at least a couple times a month. It was so beneficial! They would correct us all the time. It made learning so much fun and more accurate!
Lots of Deaf people would also say that about some of your signs. Your sign is more Manually Coded English or PSE as opposed to ASL. Actually, not even Pidgeon because you sign every single English word. The signing systems are often very different and I've lived through the fighting over them for decades. ASL actually has its own grammar and doesn't parallel English. There's also the controversy about oralism, cochlear implants, talking while signing, etcetera.
I was waiting for someone to say this. I once saw someone sign the word" "better" intending to mean "you better do that" but signed the word "better" in the meaning "good, better, best." Since it's a homograph, the person needed to know the correct sign for the meaning or else the word looks weird in the context of the sentence.
I think she modifies her sign to accommodate her mostly hearing audience so she can speak and sign at same time in an English syntax as opposed to ASL syntax
my ASL teacher back in highschool was hearing and she taught it correctly. it's more of- learn ASL from those who are fluent in it, regardless of whether they are deaf or hearing. it's unfair to disregard hearing ASL teachers who went to school to learn and educate others on this language.
There are also different signs for the same word, and some are regional. Florida literally has its own signs that a lot of people don't know because they're very Florida specific. A few years ago, I was signing to someone and used the Florida sign for beach (left arm horizontal, right hand in a V tapping along the forearm like people laying on a beach), and it confused them. I switched to the common sign for beach and explained it's the sign I learned in Florida, because for us a beach is most known for where people go to lay out in the sand.
my ASL teacher was hearing, but she really immersed herself into deaf culture. she sometimes brought her deaf friends to class and they would speak or sign or sign and speak. It was an incredible learning experience.
I learned ASL in foster care because my foster sister was deaf. Now when I find someone at a store or somewhere needing help I use it to help them they are always so thankful
It blows my mind that people who are deaf are able to learn how to speak a language they've never once heard. AND, they can't hear themselves to make sure they're saying it right! Truly incredible!
I learned ASL in college. My professor WAS deaf. I've been told by MANY deaf people that many of the signs I learned are regional or slang. I've been told that learning it from a book is like learning Castilian Spanish when what you need is Baltimore region Spanglish street slang; a lot of what you communicate won't make sense. I've been told multiple times that there are different dialects I guess you could call them, and they're very regional, so 3+ yrs of ASL from a COLLEGE with a deaf professor means you and I would probably still have trouble communicating. In my experience, learning from the person whose native language it is makes it difficult because they will take short-cuts, slang, etc. Learning from the person for who it is a second language runs the risk that they're teaching a textbook version that doesn't actually apply to much of the language's use. My point being, you will find that phenomenon with all languages. ASL isn't different because its vehicle is hands, facial expressions, and body language instead of verbal utterances. Whether someone's been taught by someone who is deaf or not, there will be variations, and they will cause confusion between people.
AMEN! It’s not whether they are deaf or hearing, it is whether they have an in-depth knowledge of the language or not. This applies to all languages. Just because I speak English does not mean I can teach English. I too studied in college for 4 years and with the program I was in some teachers were deaf and some where hearing. But all were proficient in the language.
Language has 4 variables that makes any kind or type of language to be eternally dynamic. One is time, another one is space, and forgot the other two, but I think one is cultural and yada yada. Every language is prone to change or be manipulated by a culture, and that doesn't mean that it'll be wrong, as long they can understand each other is totally fine. That's the reason of why I hate ppl that corrects on grammar cuz they are the ones that can really understand a msg but still get bothered for an insignificance like proper grammar. In spanish I always hear new words, invented on the fly and I welcome them into my understanding but still try to use proper wordage at work tbh lol love language and its dynamism.
I’m currently learning ASL from a deaf teacher. She tells us not to look up signs we don’t remember because the internet is often wrong. So yeah that definitely makes sense ahah. Also I love your videos! You’ve helped understand a lot better just in general what it’s like living deaf and being in a hearing world. :)
Oh shes right too. A lot is correct but then they have a few thats another word or just not…anything I taught myself asl and my friend who was going deaf was like uhhhh whered you learn that?? I now know the correct signs lol
@@lightbringer7834 I can't say this is always the case, but the deaf ASL teacher I knew was reasonably good at the art of reading lips and could speak verbally. Her take was to more or less immerse in ASL, thrn fill in the gaps with other skills.
My uncle has severe Down syndrome and uses sign language to speak sometimes- my tia, grandma and my dad are all fluent in sign language but mostly my dad- I’m not close with my dad nor do I see my grandma much and I never really ask my Tia to teach me so I use movies that use ASL and I teach myself- plus I use RUclips(mostly your videos) to learn and so far I know a few signs but mostly responses to questions aswell as “sorry” and “thank you” but I’m still learning :) I’m autistic so I tend to express myself through hand movements so I feel ASL would be nice to learn so I can keep moving my hands while also speaking.. anyways love your videos!🫶💕
I feel you on the autism side fr. I'm autistic too and get the sweet joy of selective mutism. I started trying to learn BSL and have been using it to communicate with my mum (well, and whoever else) when I have my little no-speech moments. Thing is, now I'm self-conscious about it because I learned it all online and I'm worried I've been butchering it all this time 😭😭
@@KEEPIN_IT_PEACHY Ok, but then she said “don’t learn ASL from speaking people”. In general. And it’s wild to say that just because of your one bad experience. Plus, the fact that they can speak doesn’t have any influence on their skill at teaching ASL
Yeah, instead learn it from people who sign perfect English on youtube videos and call it ASL (not ASL at all) and misuse the sign for "impossible" when they mean "that." 😅🙄
@@Ascenith Where did I say to do that? Get a real teacher in real life who can prove their credentials. I wouldn’t go to a youtube tutorial for ANYTHING dude.
@@books2438 It was sarcasm pointing out that the author of this video is clearly not even an ASL user (she uses signed English in all her videos, which is /not/ ASL). Not directed at you.
I'm a proficient signer, but just like any language, if you don't use it often enough you will make mistakes. Heck, we make mistakes in our own native tongue. I serve tables myself and occasionally I get deaf guests, who are very surprised that I know more than just a few signs. "Learn from a deaf person" is all well and good, but statistically very few people know a deaf person well enough to teach them. I learned through books, videos, workshops, classes as well as deaf contact. But I had to work hard to actively seek it out. It doesn't just happen in most people's lives.
@@Nana-wi4gi I think the standards of ASL learning are way to high, so i avoid learning it. (You are aware that 99% of people world wide learning a foreign language learn from teachers who are non native to the language they teach?)
Also, it would usually need to be a deaf person that can talk as well, because if you don't know anything about ASL and they can’t talk to you either how will you learn? Yes there are ways around that but I imagine that many will be complicated or time consuming. Maybe planning to practice with a deaf person once you have a solid enough foundation for it to be efficient would be better.
My deaf friend used to teach me sign language when I was in uni two years ago. He was so fun to hang with and we could even converse with my “broken sign”. He even gave me my sign name. I miss him and his fun spirit.
i’m a freshman in hs, taking asl for both language credits, my teacher went to college for deaf education (she’s hearing tho) and she’s really good at teaching it!! she explained the difference between asl and signed english :3
I think it's amazing that she's trying! After my hearing innocent I had to self teach....am I wrong for not learning from a deaf individual? Am I not really part of the deaf community? The effort is there, that should be all that matters
It is better to learn from a deaf person because of social nuances. Proper ASL is actually based on French sign, so they can also teach proper sentence structures that being self taught would not. They can also teach you local slang as well. Think of it like a local accent. That being said, that you are self taught is super impressive. I'm hearing and had to take classes. (This was way before the internet.) I have found that 90% of the deaf people that I have met will be happy that you made the effort. If you explain that you are a self taught hearing person and to please excuse any mistakes, they are a gracious bunch.
@@rolando819nah y’all are just dumb as hell when it comes to signing it’s better to learn from a DEAF person. Signing is more than just moving your fingers to make words. It’s also mouthing the words and having fluid coherent movements
@@rolando819atekeeping?? Yall are doing too much now. She just explained why you should TRY to learn from deaf person, who actually KNOWS how to sign language🙄 how is that gatekeeping if she told us to try and learn it?? Like cmon now😭
I can't for the life of me see the difference between the way she signed chocolate and vanilla and the way that the cashier signed chocolate and vanilla
The way the (Bottom) hand was is facing the wrong way. It should be in a fist facing downward, not sideways (👊 vs 👍 if that helps visually show it more)
Don't know where my last reply went (If it did at all??) But to restate what I said (Just in case) the bottom hand was in a fist on its side rather then a fist facing down. Its a small thing, but can make a big difference in sign. For example in ASL "Good" and "Bad" are signed very similarly. For good, you take your right hand (🤚 like this) and touch your chin, then bring it down to your left hand, having the back of it hit your left hand. With bad, its the same but you turn your hand as it goes down so the palm hits your left hand, rather then the back. Many signs have very similar patterns but can mean different things.. Two notes: - I highly suggest looking up how to sign good / bad because my explanation is really bad - My example used the right hand as the one to move for clarity, but I believe you just use your dominant hand (I'm still learning lol)
The palm orientation was slightly off. However, I’m slightly baffled that this girl got confused by the incorrect sign (and it’s a tiny mistake) like that in the context of the situation she was in. Technically, it isn’t even incorrect signs- just very old ones that you don’t see as often anymore.
I took ASL in college enough for Gallaudet to declare me “proficient.” 15 years later, we became parents to a baby who was profoundly Deaf and I had to relearn almost everything from before (I’m legit like a young toddler when it comes to my comprehension of ASL), BUT now I’ve got a little girl who comes home and teaches us all the signs when we don’t know them :) Grateful for her school that signs all the things all day long :) Learning preschool level words with her during the pandemic was honestly the best experience… i hope i can continue to grow in my ASL skills so eventually I can speak to her fluently about bigger topics as she gets older.
I hate that sometimes I can't talk to my deaf parents about deeper topics because I forget the words for it. That's why I'll learn sign language again. Talking about those kinda stuff is what deepens the relationship...
My ASL professor in college was deaf and she was the funnies, most animated person I have ever met to this day! Shout out to Professor Christine, you rock!
I took ASL courses in college and our teacher was non hearing and non verbal so it was completely immersive and probably some of the greatest classes I’ve ever taken.
Tbh my grandma was deaf and we signed every day until she passed And now every deaf person I meet is like mmm that’s not it. 🤷♀️ Low key makes me not want to try/bother 😭 Love the way you worked with her even though it wasn’t same/same and appreciated her efforts
@@AlexisDimes Sign language is literally just a deaf person’s language. Deaf babies who aren’t exposed to any sign language will still try to develop sign language to communicate in, and do the babble (babababa sounds babies make) in sign language, making random nonsensical signs. It’s insanely interesting.
At least she tried to communicate! That's honestly sweet and thats so kind to try to communicate with the little knowledge
This is my take. This girl acts so judgmental when someone is legit trying
@@rileybear836 She was never judgemental? She was really nice about it, actually. She was just saying to learn from people who actually KNOW the language
@@raymondthecartoonenjoyer4803 eh she seems too condescending. Like “omg this girl was so bad; just learn from real deaf people🙄🙄” ; without so much as “I really appreciate she was trying hard to learn another language”
If someone tried to learn English but they only learned from TV, I wouldn’t judge them for getting some things wrong or condescending to them for not learning from a native speaker. I’d appreciate that they were trying.
I’ve seen the video several times and it just always comes off as rude and condescending to me.
@@youraveragecityshulker eh I dunno. If someone is attempting to learn something, I’m appreciative of that. To me, she basically did the equivalent of rolling her eyes at the attempt the person was making.
@@batsuey not really. Most of this girl’s posts come off this way. Not sure if it’s just her delivery but that’s just how it comes off to me (and about 600+ other people). Literally.
It's so sweet that she did the "I love you" sign at the end ❤
nutted at that part
I love your PFP:3
aww
I thought that 'I love you' was 🤘 not 🤟?
@@bakugokatsuki3841
🤘 mean I love rock music (I think hehe)
🤟 mean I love you
Hope that helps 😊
It's so cool how she can speak with all the normal inflections without hearing herself! Your speech is fantastic!
She was probably not deaf from birth so she learnt how to speak and then went deaf
@@csar07. bingo
Or she bullshittin
@@skurge8691yeah okay
@@skurge8691yeah, 1st why does it look like she isn't in sinc with the audio?
2nd if you are deaf you can't speak normally because you can't hear what you are saying. 3rd mabey she wasn't deaf until she learned how to speak but she should probably have some problems
i learned those signs from my deaf asl teacher. i assume they're either older signs or regional ones - all the professors in my college's asl department are from different areas of the country and they often argue over signs or my prof disagrees with some signs in the curriculum the university buys. mixups like this can happen even when we try to do everything right as students
yes! and this is the case with all languages. there are dialects, accents, nonverbal cues, and other nuances that can affect how two speakers of the same language understand one another. there’s not really ONE correct way to speak any language, including ASL! I think that’s part of what makes language so interesting :)
Makes sense since we have different words for things throughout the U.S. too that we could argue about being correct or not when I’m actuality they both are.
true
It’s amazing how she can speak so clearly while not being able to hear herself.
It takes years of speech therapy. She should be applauded for her patience in learning how to speak so well.
It’s most likely because she lost her hearing later in life, so her vocal chords retained the muscle memory
@@pallsmenis9240 like through some accident or illness and not from birth
i believe she was deaf in one ear and then she gradually lost her hearing in in the other ear, i think she also take speech therapy classes but correct me if im wrong
I know it’s almost like she trying to get free views
I learned from a hearing teacher. Both of her parents are deaf and it was her first language, she learned to speak English later in life. She had an incredible outlook on deaf culture and it was by far my favorite class I have EVER taken.
That's very unique!
My ASL teacher was also a CODA, he was a super chill guy. I am definitely not fluent in ASL and I have just awful memory in general, but that was a good class. Only took it for half a year
i’d read her book
hey same!
@@cindymartinmalong2356The girl doing the video is deaf in her left ear I believe and started developing it when she was a kid and it got worse, so now she's fully deaf in that ear. Learning it from a young age is very good for any language to get a good grasp
came for the lesson
stayed for the unintentional ASMR
Ikr 😂
same, i wish she could hear how soothing her unintentional asmr is
Thank you😂
Same 😂 I'm addicted to it
Unintentional? What do you mean? 😅
To be fair, in my asl class I was taught that because sign language was frowned upon for a big chunk of recent history, a lot of Deaf people would end up in little isolated communities, and so there ended up being a lot of variation in signs. But all of the asl teachers I knew in high school were either partially deaf or codas so there’s definitely something to be said about learning from people who have been singing for awhile
There’s also the fact that, until recently, you couldn’t really learn sign without meeting with a teacher in person. Pictures don’t convey the movements properly.
This is what makes me nervous about learning BSL (my country’s sign language). I worry that I’m going to learn signs that native speakers near me don’t actually use, despite having a Deaf teacher.
Also there’s naturally regional variations because sign is a whole other language, it’s normal to hear dialects in spoken. So it’s normal for there to be dialects in sign
Oh sheesh. I learned from a Deaf woman in Rochester and it was amazing. Total immersion. No speaking, no writing. She was brilliant at building our understanding of ASL up without any English
:O how did you know what words u were learning?
@@NoDefaultsPlease She was able to build our vocabularly remarkably quickly with context and repetition. Our brains made the connections. Immersion really does work when you have a teacher who understands how to build up from very basic. I got nearly fluent in the year I was in her class.
@@Financiallyfreeauthor Huh, that's so cool!
Is she a private tutor or are these classes available in some course catalog??
@@NoDefaultsPlease that’s how everyone learns a language! your first language you never got it taught for you you understood as a baby and made the connections, aren’t we smart?
My best friend’s parents were both deaf, they taught me sign language because I was there all the time and my friend didn’t want to translate for me anymore, now I’ve got a lifelong skill
Your friend said figure it out 😂
Lol that’s cool
How long did it take you to learn?
According to this wally though that means you don't know how to sign 🙃
@@AoifeE. Not necessarily. She said you should learn from someone using the language out of necessity.. like this person did.
Not everyone can learn from a deaf person if they don't know anybody who's deaf. But even knowing some basic sign is helpful in these situations.. ❤️
Exactly! I think the fact that they’re trying to learn to communicate to as many people as possible is the biggest thing!
It's called going on the internet, lol.
youtube. i’m baked at how dumb people still are
RUclips has some great teachers. I learnt asl from yt and I learnt vr asl from the game its used in and the community that use it
@@solsikkeridderuhyre5172 90% sure the people that posted on the internet can hear.
Another possibility if someone's ASL sucks, it could be they learned a different signing language.
The Vietnamese man who was doing my pedicure told me he always got upset because people would always tell him to learn how to speak proper English. I could bearly understand him myself. He said he got perfect grades in his English class and he worked really hard on learning English before he moved here. But he found out that the woman who taught him, English wasn't her first language and she taught him broken English with a strong accent. He literally learned wrong. Not his fault.
I recently learned that so many people that speak English as a second language speak broken English because of how things directly translate. Same thing happens in asl, it doesn't exactly translate directly and facial expressions are way more important than I ever knew.
I always knew things didn't translate directly but I didn't quite realize how much sentence structure changes until I really started diving in. Now that I know, I get it and it gives me a whole new appreciation for people that take on learning English as their second language.
@@smogfry2005 people learn a language from the people they have access to, sometimes all you have access to is a non native speaker, meaning your version of the language will become a botched version of a botched version of the original
@@ordinrh1166 I get that, but sentence structure changes from language to language and dialects change from region to region. For example in Spanish you'd say mi hija tiene neuve anos which directly translated to English would be my daughter has nine years where as a native English speaker would say my daughter is nine years old.
@@smogfry2005 i,,, know? i'm not disagreeing with you? i'm adding to your statement?
I hate those kind of people the most. You’re in an establishment that speaks a different language so why don’t YOU learn to speak their language before you enter their safe zones 🙄
Wow her speech is 10/10. I wouldnt even know she is deaf
She wasn't born Deaf.
@@am-lo1pz Obviously, yeah.
It’s because she wasn’t deaf for most of her life. The reason deaf people sound different is because they’ve never heard the sounds. So them trying to recreate it often sounds much different than how everyone else says it
@kaza12345678 I'm a musician.
We playback the mic through headphones in real-time in order to hear ourselves - if you have the incorrect settings it causes a slight delay and you get the same thing. It's worse with actual delay or reverb.
"I (I)... uh (uh)"
Your brain is focused on something other than the noises that you are actively making - so it's probably not dissimilar than trying to form words when you can't hear them.
She doesn't have a deaf accent because she wasn't born deaf.
actually CODA's are really great ASL teachers. They can communicate well both as a hearing person and in ASL, so I think this can be beneficial for a lot of hearing people looking to learn. Of course a deaf person is great too. This worker could've also been speaking a different SL, sometimes it be like that.
Edit: I would like to add as some others have mentioned that CODAs are native ASL speakers as well. And usually, you’ll find bilingual people are the best at teaching languages. I’ve taken several languages and not once has the teacher not been bilingual. Sometimes they’re native English speakers so they’ve learned the other language and can therefore teach it very well becuase native speakers don’t have to learn roots or conjugations or anything, or they’re native speakers and have learned English so they have experience learning a different language and can relate the similarities and differences to English. I am a polyglot and after learning my other four languages I only now can confidently say I would be able to teach English (native) to others because I understand how it works now. It’s very similar to CODAs. They’re really impressive and great at ASL just like deaf teachers.
Studies in other languages dont support this. You have much better outcomes when languages are taught by native speakers. Someone who relies on the language the most would truly know how to properly use that language. Way more than even the best interpreters i bet. And i bet most interpreters would agree.
@@alysemarie8313a CODA is a native speaker, FFS.
@@NanatheBrave I didnt mean to offend anyone. I guess i am saying that someone who fully relies on the language as their main form of communication is a more reliable teacher
@@alysemarie8313 This is also not necessarily true. If I had to learn English, I wouldn't trust most english speakers(this is a problem with ESL teachers in other countries because the lack of teaching credentials).
Just because you use a language or are dependent on it, doesn't mean you use it properly or in the most effective way. I've known deaf people(who could speak and chose to) who would talk about how some other deaf people would sign poorly(I don't entirely know what they meant by that).
@@alysemarie8313 You’re basically saying that bilingual people make worse language teachers. That’s not true. You’re also claiming that you need to speak the language every day to be fluent. Would you forget your native language if you moved to a new country and learned another?
People sign so fast I’m like: slow down I can’t read that fast😂
Bro looking like kakashi out here
@@SirSkyro 😭💀
Especially finger spelling
right !! i be going to fast for my own self when i read.
Also, those finger nails a mile long makes it really hard to figure out. Like its distracting to me who can read a little of it ... she is not doing herself a favor right there. Sorry.
Your speaking is amazing. Out of all the deaf people I've seen on social media you speak the most clearly and it's amazing because usually when someone can't hear themselves they aren't sure if they're saying something correctly
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I think she was born with the ability to hear and lost it recently
@@myobsessionisawkward congrats you get a cookie from 2012
@@heartv212 hell nah, internet cookies are used to sell your data despite the innocent intentions that they could be used to keep you logged in even if you leave and and come back to a same website. Why would you wish such a horrible fate to that guy?
she 100% was not born deaf most of her life was spent with hearing she's clout chasing
My parents are deaf, I grew up in the 60s. A lot of the signs I grew up with have changed. It’s quite comical when I sign
Words In general have different meanings today. It’s like they change the dictionary on the daily. You should see me trying to talk to my teenager. She’s either laughing or highly embarrassed by me.
Bruh u got a sign language accent!?!?
Wow you are that miracle child
When you sign, it's like you've got an old radio show voice
Oh no you speak that Ye Olde Sign 😅
I'm coda and somethings you have said was book sign. Understand you are completing your life with what happened. There's more different ways. Sign language is just like accents or I compare to spanish therew different Spanish depending where you live.. don't worry just keep a open mind and learn. My fully born deaf mother taught me im hearing be open minded and don't be closed minded you will never learn anything with a closed mind
yes literally there are so many slight differences (ex her choc and vanilla) like that’s not a big deal LOL
“She a little confused but she got the spirit”
Those signs were taught to me as vanilla and chocolate from the older ASL instead of English signed. So I knew what you meant immediately. We had a deaf speaking teacher too.
Yeah, I immediately recognized that as an old way of saying vanilla and chocolate, since my ASL teacher when I was little was much older. The ASL teacher that I had in 2 years ago explained that all of the signs changed as the times went on, like how the sign for phone and computer have changed.
What does asl mean tho-
@@arilynnlee it means American Sign Language
Does she tells the story of a deaf girl in a shop or is she deaf and speaking that way? I have never heard a deaf person speaking with tones and so much expression in the voice, that's perturbing for me
@@comptegoogle5071 She’s deaf herself :)
I learned a little from my sister. She's not deaf but went to school to become a sign language interpretor. Sign language was a passion of hers when we moved across the country and a deaf person became her best friend. This unfortunately got cut short when she had an accident and lost part of her hearing (a significant hearing loss in one ear only), a month before the exams. That's one of the biggest barriers you could have in that career, so she was never able to have her dream job. The irony of it is cruel. (She's okay now and has a new passion, her kids)
That IS some cruel irony 😭
That’s just awful
I took an ASL course my first year out of high school and the professor was deaf... Do you have any idea why your sister wasn't able to pursue something like that instead? Did she not want to teach?
Genuine questions by the way. I'm just curious, not trying to be rude 😅
@@arianamarkus5041Maybe she is? They said she has a passion for children now and that can be one way someone talks about a teacher of something.
@@jadedawes2556
Perhaps, it just sounded as though she completely gave up on doing anything in that field
Girl your voice is actually really good for a deaf person!! I literally cant tell without your hands moving.
I was thinking the same thing. Usually deaf peoples voices are not clear
My ASL teacher is hearing but she’s been to Gallaudet University and I think she’s pretty education in formal sign language. She tells us about the culture, etiquete, and she has us use sources online from actual deaf people to check our signing. I love communicating with people.
Okay fine maybe it shouldn’t be a requirement for jobs but I *suggest* that it should be taught in high school. Especially if the career or job you want requires talking to a wide variety of people. And yes while Deaf/HOH people could write their communications down it doesn’t give them same fulfilling effect as face to face conversation. Because then the Deaf/HOH people are communicating through a piece of paper, not an actual person
my ASL teacher is also hearing and also went to Gallaudet University and she teaches us formal and non formal so that when we actually are fluent in ASL we dont look dumb using only the formal signs! also she is the sweetest lady ever i love her sm!
Why should it be a requirement for jobs? Rather wouldn't it be better for this to be taught in schools?
Yes! I completely agree with her how it should be a requirement for every job! Very few people actually know how to interact with Deaf/HOH
@@cottoncandiez8872 This. Making it a job requirement now could bar a lot of lower income adults from entire industries, but adding it to the curriculum could make it so that going forward, a lot more people can reliably communicate in ASL; not to mention, the younger you are, the easier it is to learn languages, so they might be able to retain that information.
@@_stupidbro We use ASL throughout the district I work in, have D/HH classrooms and a Deaf high school that's integrated into a mainstream high school so there's a good number of millennials and Gen Z who know enough ASL to help someone in an emergency. It's really helpful that the community college actually got ASL recognized as a foreign language and is a transferrable, thus further encouraging students who want most gen ed classes completed.
Vanilla or chocolate aren't usually the first words someone trys and learns in asl which means that girl went out of her way to learn those sign on the chance a deaf person walked in to that shop so she could communicate with them.
i was thinking the same name, she sounds like such a sweet girl ❤️
Right good for her and even if it wasn't clear it got the message across
I’ve tried to do that for every job I’ve worked, fast food, hostess, barista, now I need to learn for retail 😅
@@randomdani2343 same I work at a pet store but there’s way too many products and terms to learn 😭
but she would choose it since shes working at a cafe ofc
My mom was a volunteer sign language interpreter for the courthouse in Florence, Alabama from time to time. She grew up with a cousin that was deaf and aside from his immediate family members my mom was the only one who was fluent in ASL. Growing up she always signed I love you (🤟🏼) to my brothers and I and I still do it to this day to people I love. She taught me some but I’m not fluent in ASL. I wish I were. My mom passed away 6 years ago after a long struggle with addiction. She was so troubled but she taught me so much and had a heart of gold. I miss her everyday ❤
*EDIT*- Wow 😮 I’ve never gotten so many likes. It makes me happy that a good memory may have resonated with some of y’all 😊
Thank you guys for all the likes and kind comments 🤗
My condolences on the loss of your Mom.
Addiction is a horrible place to be.
I hope you and yours know the signs, and protect yourselves from it in the future.
Stay safe and healthy out there and know you are loved.
Sorry to hear about your mom. Glad you have good memories of her, and that your view of her hasn't been skewed by her addiction. May she rest and be at peace from her disease. ❤
Sorry to hear about your mom, she seemed to be such a cool person !
@@waltbauer1003 thank you and I agree. I went through a long phase of not wanting to talk to or see her because of her addiction but as I got older and after she passed I was left with a crazy amount of guilt for not seeing her as the person she was behind her addiction. I’ve definitely lived my life knowing that addiction runs in my family and I don’t want to end up the same way that so many others in my family have. But I’ve come to learn a lot about addiction and I’ve changed my perspective about the people who suffer with it. After a while it isn’t a choice anymore and it causes physical and psychological pain to the people who suffer with it. I wish I thought the same way while my mom was still here. Seeing her go through everything she did and looking back with hindsight gives me a great deal of empathy for people struggling with mental health issues. People who are poor and struggle with their mental health tend to self medicate and that’s where the addiction begins.
I used to want to be an interpreter but I’m hearing and I don’t know any deaf people so that would be hella weird
She’s so good at ASL and at speaking and the way she did the “ I love you “ sign 🤟
Your voice is clear and your diction is perfect, indistinguishable from that of a hearer
Probably went deaf later in life, people who are born unable to hear are unable to speak
This is what i waa about to say, but you said it better 😂
It is because she ain’t deaf the pitch in her voice wouldn’t be like that
I'm not surprised the person didn't think she was deaf because she sounds like she wasn't deaf
Exactly. Amazing. ❤
Am I the only one who’s hypnotized by the fact that she can speak 2 languages at the same freaking time
As someone who has been learning ASL for 10+ years, this is normal. Because ASL is still American English, but with your hands, it's the same words. It's like how you can type or write and speak those words at the same time. Obviously, it sounds weird when typing or writing because our writing / typing speed isn't as fast as our spoken speed, but ASL has a lot of shortcuts and is intended to be as fast as American English.
Also, you don't speak Sign Language... you just sign.
@@XoIoRouge you’re probably talking about sign supported English (SSE) and not ASL, since the grammar system is different for ASL than English and words and phrases sometimes don’t line up properly
@@YeetusTheFetus Did I mention I have 10+ years?
I know I'm talking about Signing Exact English (SEE), but that's not important for educating the OP. On the internet, I never "teach" more than needed.
(A) OP stated Lizzy's speaking and signing at the same time is impressive, which it is.
(B) In the video, Lizzy is signing exact English. "One time I went coffee shop show worker my order" That's not ASL. That's SEE. See NOTE at the end.
(C) Thus, OP was impressed that SEE and Spoken English could be done at the same time, and I "blurred" the line between ASL and SEE because it's not important to distinguish the two. This way, if OP or anyone reading is interested by this idea, I'm not shoehorning and entire subconcept of Sign Language in with it - and if they're inspired or encouraged to learn more about ASL, they'll figure out SEE on their own.
NOTE: If she isn't SEE, and what I'm seeing here IS ASL, then I actually can't tell the difference anymore because my brain automatically registers ASL as Exact English. But I highly doubt it based from experience.
@@XoIoRouge I'm not deaf, but I think it's very important to distinguish between the two. ASL is a different language, with different grammar and vocab that developed independant of spoken English (and is in fact more closely related to LSF than it), and I think it's really sad when people think that sign is just "spoken language but signed" and don't recognize sign language as its own, independant language.
@@randompikmin4103 We have different priorities then. I do not think it's important to distinguish between the two IFF the person I'm talking to (OP) has never learned ASL in the first place. There's no point in adding "What you're seeing is not ASL, but actually SEE (or SSE)." Here are a few of the issues I can theorize by specifying this statement at this time:
(1) Adds possible confusion because they thought it was ASL by default
(2) Adds words for me to explain the difference between ASL and SEE, which is just extra work for me.
(3) Doesn't change my statement: ASL as a language CAN be spoken and signed at the same time - I do it all the time.
(4) Due to the fact that my intention (point 3 above) is still accurate, I show restraint on "Over-Educating" - where I teach too much which causes the topic I'm teaching to be missed due to the extra fluff or confusion.
(5) I look like an "Um, Actually" nerd. If I was teaching this to a classroom, or someone who ASKED me to teach them, then I will explain the difference. But if I'm informing a stranger online, out of my own volition, I do not want to sound imposing while still sparking interest in the language of ASL.
(6) Some of my deaf friends sign strictly in SEE because that's what they were taught. Their community had a teacher who taught poorly and it caused most of the deaf folks (and their relatives) to learn SEE instead of ASL. The point I'm getting across here is that SEE isn't inherently bad or disrespectful to the language - that's a woke idea. NOT KNOWING THE DIFFERENCE is bad, sure, and should be taught, but I sign even SEE when I find myself a bit out of touch with the language and no one complains or is confused, realistically.
(7) As I said in my prior post, whether I specify ASL or SEE, if the recipients are interested in learning because of what I said then they will find out about SEE on their own, from a qualified instructor.
Honestly, I could probably list more reasons why overinforming is not useful here, but I'm getting to the nitty gritty and this post is getting long. I never said ASL isn't a language, and I don't expect what I said to make them think it isn't a language. I simply said, "You can do both at the same time!"
I applaud her for learning it at all just to make somebodys life easier.
yeah i felt like she was mad at her for trying and i usually completely agree with her, this video made me kind of embarrassed as someone who is trying to learn sign…
@@Ashton8844 I mean she's very young and it shows sometimes.I'm sure she'll come around.
it’s amazing how well u can speak
I'm not deaf at all, but she has MUCH better verbal communication skills than I do.
Ikr. Her speech is so eloquent and concise while I'm out here barely able to mumble out my order in a kfc
She’s deaf not mute
@@popcanter188 I don’t think you understand how hard it is to sound normal while deaf. When you can’t hear your own voice you don’t know how to sound or how to correct your speech. It’s honestly quite insane how fluidly and normal she can speak.
Me too!
Or maybe she went dead after being able to speak and hear for so long? Not everyone is dead from birth 🙄
I know you will never be able to hear it, but you have a beautiful voice and I could watch you talk and sign all day 🥺
basing off of how well she speaks, her ears may only be able to pick up vibrations from her own voice or anything loud enough to rattle her head - all deaf people "hear" differently, just like some blind people can tell if they're in a dark or bright room, even if they "can't see." It's a spectrum, like everything else :)
@Ante Marić that's also a possibility - she'd still be using what little hearing ability she had to know she's saying things correctly
@@csonweedagain5054 that’s great but you can’t hear your own voice. You make up how your voice sounds in your head, that’s why you’re shocked when you hear how you sound in a video. So in a sense, she’ll never here how her voice really sounds.
@@Matteo_nr1_evermore_stan ? Your voice sounds different to you over the phone because your own voice physically vibrates your head, which vibrates the bones in the ear. When creating the telephone, it was discovered that you don't need as many low frequencies playing at a time to understand a voice, so to save on bandwidth and time they left those frequencies out - not to mention it would be playing out of a phone speaker, which is also missing many frequencies and most certainly not vibrating the head. All this is to say she (almost) definitely knows how she sounds 👍
Worded it I'm the worst way possible
I’ve never seen someone sign with such long nails. I was completely hypnotized by the Asmr of it all 😂
they look like cello tapes
I’m one of those like that. Lately, I’ve had to take them off because of work reasons though
scarlet may has ACTUAL long nails and she’s deaf you should hear it, it’s sooooo satisfying 😫
I was in the twilight zone drifting off into space watching those nails fling around
It was almost relaxing.
I was completely annoyed lol
I am currently learning from a man who is deaf. He's been so kind, patient, and encouraging! I'm so grateful for him!
okay but HOW does she speak english perfectly while not hearing her own voice. i could never
I don't know her, but mostly it's when people already knew how to speak the language before they lose their hearing. Otherwise it's crazy amounts of work. I know a couple of people who were deaf at birth and some are very good, but I've never seen this level. Would never have been able to tell that she's deaf by listening to her, so if it's hard work... Hats off to you
I could be mistaking her for someone else, but I'm pretty sure that's not her voice. I've heard this exact story with her actual voice so I think this might be someone voicing over.
If I did mix them up though, then I apologize for my mistake.
She can hear a little bit, she has implants/hearing aids and has said she can’t hear well if you have a mask on or have an accent
So true😊
@@anavarexe1820If she couldn’t hear anything at all then she wouldn’t be able to lip sync an audio fam, that is her voice
Your voice and linguistics are SO CLEAR. In my experience when speaking with someone non-hearing, their linguistics tend to be much less clear. Well done dude 👏
Yeah when I was a cashier at Walmart there was a deaf man that came in every so often, he’d try to ask me for specific cigs by talking but it honestly was very garbled. He’d get angry and walk off because no one understood. I don’t think I’ve ever heard someone speak this clearly.
It could also imply a few things.
1. She’s not actually deaf.
2. She’s only partially deaf. (Most probable)
3. She went deaf much later in life.
4. She went deaf at a young age but had practice to make sure her speech was fine. (Not realistic fyi)
My bet is either option 1 and 2
@@metalrain300 bro she aint dead 💀
@QueerAssTiefling your right, I was browsing RUclips shorts and it came up. So blame the RUclips gods for that. Also your right again, only deaf people I have ever interacted was my aunt basically my whole life and whoever she would be with at the time I’d see her. Also speculation not assumption, I took information and various assumptions from other comments to come up with a list of reasons that might prove logic given the scope of information I had on hand. Though at the end I did throw my own two cents on what I think would be the most likely options based on what people are known to do for their 5 seconds of fame and the given info I had on hand.
@@TitorEPK I didn’t say she was? Edit, I see the mistake lol
ASL is like spoken language, it’s different in different countries and regional. In Germany there are sometimes 4 different signs for the same thing
ASL = American Sign Language. Wouldn't it be better to say "Sign is like spoken language [...]"?
@@nouraa.9958lol. It would be a lot easier if it was that way, but ASL has a different grammar structure than English. It’s similar to the structure of French.
@@abigailginter4785 You don't understand my comment. I said that "ASL" isn't the word for sign language(s), ASL isn't signed in Germany, in Germany it's a completely different language.
The US is the same way. It’s a little different all over the country
Sure, but this isn't like learning a dialect, this is like learning German from a Swedish person that took lessons for a few years on it in secondary school 😅
learning from a hearing person is better than not learning at all!
It could also be a case of them learning a different sign language.
I'm from the Philippines and we have FSL (Filipino Sign Language). Even though it's closer to ASL than like JSL or BSL, there's still significant differences to a lot of the words. And there's this internal struggle of "Should I learn my local sign or the 'international standard'?" Because of how much fewer accessible resources for FSL than ASL.
Difficult to know. I am learning french sign language... and it is different too.
Logic, all languages are differents but difficult to know what is the best choice.
I'm trying to learn ASL as it's way easier to find material and stuff for it than my country's sign language. I've been researching how or where to learn sign language here and it seems to be non-existent, so yeah.
Just will try to learn ASL, then it'd be easier to learn another one I guess
AYO FELLOW PINOY
That's how I feel with Greek sign language! Asl is much more accessible with knowledge and I prefer to learn this language for now. But, I'd love to take classes for gsl someday!
Why not learn both? 🤷♀️
you speak SO CLEARLY i feel like you'd be a good teacher
deaf people usually speak in weird tones because they can’t hear themselves
Because she capping
@@MrBirdy-bf7rmyeah either that or she became deaf abd wasn't born it though it most likely the previous.
@@MrBirdy-bf7rm she probably was not born deaf
@@MrBirdy-bf7rm Being deaf isn't just being a 100% death in both years. Some people are only deaf in one ear, or they are slightly deaf in one ear. Deaf people can still hear a little bit. Everyone is different.
Her voice is very beautiful, and she's doing really well on speaking fluently without any different off tune accents
Why call a deaf accent off tune? That's kinda rude dude
@@HyperTheKappa Most people who’s born deaf doesn’t know how words are pronounced since they’ve never heard them. They are then usually really bad at talking and prounounciations. However, this girl talks with really good pronounciation and flow
@DinoDudeYT I'm aware, I have four years of ASL with a deaf teacher. I'm saying it is insensitive the way the commenter phrased a deaf accent as being "off tune". A lot of the comments on this video display a staggering amount of audism and say some things that rub me the wrong way, like "wow she talks so normal!"
@@HyperTheKappa waaah someone described something in a slightly different way than I find acceptable so I'm gonna cry on the internet to strangers waaaaaaaah 😢👶
@@HyperTheKappa I’ll wait for someone deaf to complain instead of someone complaining on behalf of people who aren’t complaining.
Most of us don't know any deaf people unfortunately.
I learned a few words online myself and the one and only time I ran into a deaf family (they were sitting next to us in a restaurant). When we were leaving the family waved me back because they realised that I had forgotten my bag. I did what I thought was the sign for "thank you", but by the confused look on their face I know it was very wrong and I just ran away very embarrassed.
She speaks really well! I didn't even realize she was deaf at first. Any deaf person I've met is at least a bit slurred because they can't hear themselves, so I was surprised
Agreed! Impressive
Likely she wasn't born deaf. And learned to speak before she went deaf.
SAME
It has the same feel as Molly Burke being able to "correctly" (from a body language pov) react to people as if she was seeing
Yea cause she is a fucking liar
We should learn sign language in school. It’s such an important thing to need to know
For reals! I'm in my 3rd year of asl in high school actually lol. And when I was homeschooled as a child, I really enjoyed watching asl videos which really helped a lot down the road when I started taking my hs classes. Idk why I learned it as a kid though. Because myself and everyone around me was hearing. but i really did enjoy learning it and I'm very happy to know as much as I do now💖🤟
onehundred percent
For that same reasoning kids should learn every other language in the world but that's not happening we need to learn useless math
@@Dramatic-Bunny name one time you have you the quadratic outside of school...
I use math because I'm still in college for a BS degree and my job needs math but most people don't use the the higher levels of math that they force us to learn.
@@Dramatic-Bunny I dont think its important it would just be more useful.
But people act like because they are deaf it's more important to learn asl than Spanish or something and I dont agree.
not everyone knows deaf people, the fact she knew some is amazing. So regardless of who she learnt it from, she's trying
I mean she said “try” to learn from a deaf person🤷🏽♀️
I think she means in an academic setting.
@@LotharOfTheHillPeople the comments in here don't have much real world logic, do they?
We're all on the internet rn aren't we?? Plenty of deaf people who teach or are willing to teach can be found. You have to TRY, like she said
@@LotharOfTheHillPeopleboi
I think it's sweet how the girl tried to make an effort to understand and communicate with you. Glad it wasn't another case of Dunkin Donuts if you know what I mean.
What happened at Dunkin Donuts? 🤣
@Naomi Barócsi I want to know this as well lol
@Just someone they have taught it in schools before. i learned in kindergarten but i don’t think they teach it anymore
I work at a dunkin. And I always try to make sure guests are able to order especially if they have any sort of disability. In the past the dunkin i work at was BS and the customers weren't happy. When I joined, if I know they cannot hear/speak etc. I just point or write things down for them. Anything helps as long as you try. I do need someone to teach me ASL though. That would be so much easier.
@Just someone Saying ASL (or any sign language) is easy to learn is kind of misleading - it's a whole different language, so I guess it's easy to learn in the way other foreign languages are easy (although I never found them easy).
Some sign is easy to learn and really helpful to communicate - I work at an inclusive elementary school and we teach some sign to all the kids. It doesn't only help Deaf kids, but those with language delays as well, it's helpful for short instructions without yelling across the classroom, etc. Being fluent in sign is a lot harder though.
I use sign bank to learn Auslan. (Australian sign) the majority of people I've met who use sign are actually both hearing and technically speaking, but due to physical disabilities are unable to for words so either use pod books or sign. I also use sign for myself as I have neurological conditions that cause my brain and mouth to not always be connected and signing helps me not stumble if I sign and talk at the same time.
I love love love your content! I also love when you sign it's so beautiful and when your nails click together as you signing is just so weirdly satisfying for me that's a definite sound I will never take for granted as a hearing person❤️ Much love 🤟
Thank you so much!🤟💖
Is 44 to old to learn ASL? My hearing is really bad. I have to go for hearing aid testing which they already said I need.
@@summerbelleflowers8836 Generally for all things in life; it's never too late to learn. And if you feel like this would enrich your life and be a good tool for you, go for it. :)
@@DieKleineMimose Thank you…
@@summerbelleflowers8836 People ask themselves this too much. You learned things once, you're still the same you and you can learn again. Try, fail, try again. There is no shame in trying and failing (only in not trying), so there is no reason not to try!
I think it's amazing that the girl in the story wanted to learn ASL at all... Regardless of whom she learned from. I don't think everyone has the advantage of choosing who teaches them a skill... Personally, I just think it's awesome when anyone puts in the effort to learn.
You literally choose what skills you learn. And you choose whether or not to pay attention to whom Ian teaching as well as choosing whether or not to be taught by them. Just because someone has authority over you and can command you to listen and or act, in no way means you don’t have choice. You absolutely choose who teaches you because you choose what you take lessons and wisdom from. It is up to you, not anyone else to learn correctly with anything, that includes you doing your independent research into the teaching methods being used to educate you so that you can be certain whomever is teaching you, is actually doing so correctly.
@@fuckel98 you're right dude, therefore if someone ever tries to teach me a bit of deaf language i'll straight up refuse if they're able to hear. now i know nothing
Yes you're absolutely right Kelly. Beggars can't be choosers. She was happy the girl knew a little, and was trying. So that means she was happy this person learnt a little from a hearing person. Contradiction
@@fuckel98 My dude, I’ve never even seen a deaf person, can’t exactly go up to anyone and ask them to teach me shit
Exactly 💯
this video is unnecessary virtue signaling to another.level 😒🙄
Chocolate is very similar to that though. So she could’ve just messed it up on her own. I think it’s important that people learn ASL from deaf people, but I think it’s important and really special that people want to learn at all and it should be appreciated and welcomed with love.
Problem with learning it from a deaf person or someone who can’t speak is you don’t know what they’re saying
The signs that the lady did for vanilla and chocolate is actually signed English which isn't official ASL so a lot of signs are similar in fashion but are still very different from ASL
@@timdadwagan a deaf teacher will always be the best teacher for sign languages. They're visual languages, if your teacher is talking to you while teaching, you're going to listen with your ears instead of your eyes.
@@rylieriot516 Sorry as I‘m not knowledgeable here, but wouldn’t a hearing child of deaf parents also be able to teach? Like shouldn’t they be able to choose not to speak for those lessons but then maybe also be able to explain some stuff which might be useful for complete beginners.
This! Also, does what she did mean something else? I’m confused
The nail clicks are so soothing
Really?? I find them super distracting and that they take away from the message.
Her nails are so satisfying when she does sign language
It doesn't matter who you learn from, there will be confusion with different signs. The nature of ASL and the way it is spread out different from any spoken language mean you inevitably will run into people using different signs for the same thing. It can be like entirely different dialects. There are tons of different slang signs and it varies a ton from region to region. Deaf, hearing, and many hard of hearing who live between both worlds communicate very differently with each other.
nailed it
This^^ regional signs or Deaf regional accents are SIGNIFICANTLY than most people realize.
FR! I learned some ASL as a kid and then again in high school. It was easy for me but some signs were different and threw me off. Ppl for forget regional signs and accents. It was be VERY beneficial if someone worked to make ASL be a bit more standardized
@@emmypersonal4033 it won't work any better than trying to standardize close latin rooted languages. When you have people groups spread apart using and developing the language differently, it will always change over time differently from the rest. There is standardized ASL which is what you learn at school for it, but it can't teach you slang and modified or new signs.
Actually it does matter, hearing people interact with the world completely differently than deaf or CODA people. Yes there's a lot of slang and dialects. But notice how in telling her sorry she left out details like what barista looked like, and didn't "set the scene" for the story. She noticed all those details but in the deaf community those things aren't important yet or at all. Where if it was hearing person would they would describe how busy it was, the barista and their mood, and walking up to the counter. Also the deaf community has a different culture than hearing. So between those 2 things sign often gets destroyed by someone who learned from a hearing person. (And to some deaf people signing like how hearing person speaks is offensive.)
She’s the clearest speaking deaf person I’ve ever heard that’s impressive
Yea, she speaks clearer then me. Which I’m hard of hearing can not for the life of me say r’s normal.
It’s like she speaks so clearly, if she wasn’t doing the signs I would have no idea she was deaf
honestly yeah
There' s a video where she explains why. A very touching one, btw.
@@sebumpostmortem link it, fam
The nails clacking, the way she signs is just ✨✨
You have a very clear voice! Amazing to be able to speak 2 languages at once
She's not signing ASL though, it's SEE, which is Signed Exact English. If you can write while you speak, then you can sign SEE while you speak, since it's not another language it's just a codified version of English
ASL is not a language 👍
@@Amiralynn you just said “American Sign Language is not a language.” you inherently contradicted yourself.
@@Amiralynn it’s a form of communication that you otherwise wouldn’t be able to understand if not taught??
Its a voice over I think.
I'm learning NGT (dutch sign language) right now, in the Netherlands we have a college that teaches people to become translaters/teacher and more. Its mixed between deaf, hard of hearing and hearing people all learning together.
that’s so coool 😳
Waar?
@@RacingPepe Hogeschool Utrecht
I'm doing a small introduction course, but I might continue on because I really want to be able to speak it
@@RacingPepe sommige open universiteiten hebben ook ngt cursussen
I have never heard a deaf person speak so clearly. I honestly could not tell you are deaf purely based on your voice. Your voice is lovely by the way 😊
My thoughts exactly. Either she lost it later in life or is faking it unfortunately. Her speech is flawless, which is nearly impossible for a deaf born person
@@Teh_Random_Canadian Everyone doesn't have a strong Deaf accent. If she got a cochlear really young and got a lot of speech therapy, this is indeed possible. EDIT: She was born hearing btw
@@Teh_Random_CanadianMaybe watch a couple of her videos before implying someone is faking? I've only seen a handful and I know she was born hearing and I believe still has a small amount of hearing in one ear.
At least people are trying to learn. I don't know any deaf person and I'm trying to learn. Sooo at least she's trying
The way you said “Where did you learn?” out loud combined with the sign language for that sentence is so so cute ❤
I’m learning by myself from RUclips and TikTok because my son is nonverbal and so far he’s only using his hands to talk. It’s been a game changer. I didn’t realize you didn’t have to be deaf or be around deaf people for it to be as much of a benefit as it’s been. I’m still learning but I appreciate videos like this because I want to hear the voices in this community and I genuinely want to learn and educate myself. I wish I had an in person friend who could help me but maybe one day. Until then, I just hope I’m teaching my son the right signs so he doesn’t embarrass himself at the coffee shop someday ❤️
Nonverbal communication have Makaton and a variety of other things (I’m not discouraging you from ASL, but it might be easier for both of you. For example for blue, you trace a vein on the back of your hand, it has signs rooted in things that will make sense for you so it’s not a complete full-blown new language with different syntax.)
Just a thought.
I hope you’re going good today.
Your son too.
🥰
My sister uses Proloquo (insurance pays for it) because sign language honestly isn’t great for nonverbals in society. They can still hear so speech devices like this can help them easily communicate with the hearing and verbal communities
You can teach babies to sign when they need to go potty or are hungry. Every parent should utilize sign language
Fun fact (according to a book I just read)! Deaf children who are introduced to sign language by hearing parents who aren't fluent are almost as proficient as those with Deaf parents. Children's brains are so primed to learn language that so long as they get SOME input, they can fill in the blanks with incredible accuracy.
like... how does she speak better than me and not hearing herself... that's absolutely fantastic
She 100% either hasn't always been deaf or is only partially deaf
@@James-dm8cx not to mention she could also have sessions to learn to speak properly, which i know other deaf/hard of hearing people do.
@@olsirmonkeypeople born deaf i dont think could ever get to this point.
@@actuallymario7676it’s possible I think, just incredibly difficult. You’d probably have to memorize the feel and “movement” of words more than anything
She’s probably not deaf
Her videos are helpful to the ppl who are deaf 🧏♀️
i thought this was gonna be a story of "we both know sign language...but for different languages so even deaf folk can experience language barriers its just not immediately apparent because of being deaf" but i like this one too~
Yeah same, also a lot of people don’t realize that there are different types of sign language for different languages, English alone has three types
@@Alexjr611 exactly, and i don’t know if it’s the same with ASL but BSL even has regional differences in its signs!
The worst part is that asl signs are more common because of the media so I’ll sign in AusLan because I’m Australian and in Australia and they’ll try to use the asl they’ve seen in tv shows which is a completely different language. Idk the ASL alphabet so I can’t help you 😅
@@jade-cg1db too true. I’m in New Zealand and I bet even our SL is different to Aussie’s even though we’re so close
Yes, I thought she was going to say that the worker spoke Spanish or another language lol. 😅
I mean it’s good that she tried. And yes ur right. Most of the time hearing people butcher signs but not always. My ASL teacher teaches deaf and hearing kids. She says she is a deaf person in hearing persons body, if that makes sense.
I get this! It’s just kind of equating me who never spoken Spanish before try and speak Spanish without getting my point across. I love when people try ASL don’t get me wrong but even when I corrected her signing (in a nice way) by showing her the right signs for vanilla and chocolate, she didn’t bother to correct them. It’s one thing to learn a language and it’s another thing to learn how to get people to understand the language you’re using if that makes sense. 💖
@@L1zHarris maybe it's possible she just couldn't see the difference between what you were signing and what she was? Like maybe the difference seemed subtle to her even though to you it's a clear difference. Like having an accent.
@@L1zHarris It makes perfect sense. Thank you for clarifying. 🤟🏼
@@L1zHarrisid you know asl is approx 205 years old? And is more closely related to French sign-language than English? I wonder if the server was expressing an English language sign.
My name is Megan I am a preschool teacher. I'm hearing and I teach one year Olds sign language everyday
What’s wild is the fact that when my grandma went to her school for the Deaf , she wasn’t taught by teachers how to sign, she was just taught by other students. She didn’t finish out her schooling so whatever words she doesn’t know, she just finger spells so I think stuff like that is at sign gets varied so much.
I love how she does the I love you sign at the end because when I was little my grandma would always do the I love you sign to me and I would do it back even tho no one in our family was deaf
WHEN I TELL YOU I LOVE SEEING THE LONG NAILS 😭 idk why it’s so entrancing
I think they r the ugliest part of the video💀They look so big n cheap💀
She tried her best. It's commendable that she learned ASL at all because most people don't even think twice about it, much less learn it. Yeah it might be good to learn from a deaf person but it's better to applaud her for her caring and effort because not everyone knows a deaf person in the first place.
eXACTLY
Out of context but OMG IS THAT BEOMGYU
Except RUclips, RUclips knows deaf people who can teach you ASL
Pretty sure she said she was excited to see that someone knew sign. But that's not the point of this video. If she doesn't also spread knowledge or advice on what hearing people can do better, then we'll never be able to improve and do it properly. And hearing people have a responsibility to accept that advice with humility.
The right mentality to have for something like this is to understand that it's not commendable to learn sign because most people don't do it. It's commendable because you are trying to accommodate deaf people who also deserve the chance to live a life where they don't have to fight to communicate every single day - as in, you are being a decent person. So what does it say about hearing people if we are resistant to hearing feedback (and especially in this situation, since she provided that feedback very kindly)? Are we doing this for clout? Or are we actually trying to accomplish the goal we set out to accomplish? Yes, praise is fine. But no, I disagree that it is better than (kindly) pointing out places to improve.
My auntie didn’t learn asl I think and so we didn’t talk to her in it we just made some things like if you point at your sock then point upstairs she’ll understand you
My aunt is really intelligent but she never had hearing aids before I mean she did but I don’t know if it worked
I'm fluent in sign language and I was taught by my deaf mother. And because my mom is deaf I grew up mostly using sign language because I was so used to it. I love it when I see other people use sign language it brings me so much joy in my heart.
Aww! I kinda know the alphabet and actually used it for the first time at the grocery store with a teenage girl who was so excited and hugged me. 🥰
Same with me but for me it was my baby sister
The subtle differences turning the signs into gibberish is SO interesting to see as someone who is learning ASL. An upturned fist instead of downturned and signing on the first phalange instead of against the fist completely changes the sign enough to make it incomprehensible. This is a fantastic example of what second-language learners go through! ASL is such a great example because we’re both kind of using English, but are we really? Nope!
I’m learning from a hearing person but she went to Gallaudet, has deaf people in her household, and has been signing 10+ years. She’s a really awesome teacher.
CODAs (Children of Deaf Adults) and other hearing folks who grew up in the deaf community are great intersections of both cultures.
I went to RIT (the other big deaf college) and some CODA friends introduced me to the community and taught me my first signs.
So anyway, long winded way to say go you and it's a very valid way to start learning.
yeah, if you can share a language before learning ASL it'll be a lot easier to learn.
If someone who doesn't speak your native tongue came to a class to teach a language you don't know it'd be a very slow process.
I took ASL in college and we gathered with deaf people at least a couple times a month. It was so beneficial! They would correct us all the time. It made learning so much fun and more accurate!
Lots of Deaf people would also say that about some of your signs. Your sign is more Manually Coded English or PSE as opposed to ASL. Actually, not even Pidgeon because you sign every single English word. The signing systems are often very different and I've lived through the fighting over them for decades. ASL actually has its own grammar and doesn't parallel English. There's also the controversy about oralism, cochlear implants, talking while signing, etcetera.
Thank you Cory for that informative comment, subscribed!
Good point
I was waiting for someone to say this. I once saw someone sign the word" "better" intending to mean "you better do that" but signed the word "better" in the meaning "good, better, best." Since it's a homograph, the person needed to know the correct sign for the meaning or else the word looks weird in the context of the sentence.
I think she modifies her sign to accommodate her mostly hearing audience so she can speak and sign at same time in an English syntax as opposed to ASL syntax
@@davidwong6575She says she’s not fluent so maybe she only knows the vocab but not the grammar?
The clicks.. so satisfying
Ngl those hand movements and ASMR makes this almost hypnotic
Those hand movements are ASL😂
She articulated herself better than most people I work with.
Bc she is actually deaf
@Iohana Ferreira Soares oh sorry, I didn't pick up on that.
my ASL teacher back in highschool was hearing and she taught it correctly. it's more of- learn ASL from those who are fluent in it, regardless of whether they are deaf or hearing. it's unfair to disregard hearing ASL teachers who went to school to learn and educate others on this language.
yea❤ i, myself am learning ASL from a hearing teacher.
Where did she say disregard teachers 😂lmaoo
@@wiglicious. she said it’s better to learn from someone who is deaf.
@@camrynhendrixs yeah and she can have that opinion doesn’t mean she said disregard teachers but even teachers can be wrong soooo🤷🏾♀️🤨
what did the barista actually say instead of chocolate and vanilla flavour?
The cruel irony of not being able to hear the way the nails clack when you're signing, it's one of my favorite sounds
There are also different signs for the same word, and some are regional. Florida literally has its own signs that a lot of people don't know because they're very Florida specific. A few years ago, I was signing to someone and used the Florida sign for beach (left arm horizontal, right hand in a V tapping along the forearm like people laying on a beach), and it confused them. I switched to the common sign for beach and explained it's the sign I learned in Florida, because for us a beach is most known for where people go to lay out in the sand.
It’s a dialect! Love it 💜
my ASL teacher was hearing, but she really immersed herself into deaf culture. she sometimes brought her deaf friends to class and they would speak or sign or sign and speak. It was an incredible learning experience.
I learned ASL in foster care because my foster sister was deaf. Now when I find someone at a store or somewhere needing help I use it to help them they are always so thankful
That is so nice. We need more people like you!
It blows my mind that people who are deaf are able to learn how to speak a language they've never once heard. AND, they can't hear themselves to make sure they're saying it right! Truly incredible!
I learned ASL in college. My professor WAS deaf. I've been told by MANY deaf people that many of the signs I learned are regional or slang. I've been told that learning it from a book is like learning Castilian Spanish when what you need is Baltimore region Spanglish street slang; a lot of what you communicate won't make sense.
I've been told multiple times that there are different dialects I guess you could call them, and they're very regional, so 3+ yrs of ASL from a COLLEGE with a deaf professor means you and I would probably still have trouble communicating.
In my experience, learning from the person whose native language it is makes it difficult because they will take short-cuts, slang, etc. Learning from the person for who it is a second language runs the risk that they're teaching a textbook version that doesn't actually apply to much of the language's use.
My point being, you will find that phenomenon with all languages. ASL isn't different because its vehicle is hands, facial expressions, and body language instead of verbal utterances. Whether someone's been taught by someone who is deaf or not, there will be variations, and they will cause confusion between people.
fr!
So true
Interesting! I always thought sign language would be easier but never considered they have dialects too. That’s cool!
AMEN! It’s not whether they are deaf or hearing, it is whether they have an in-depth knowledge of the language or not. This applies to all languages. Just because I speak English does not mean I can teach English. I too studied in college for 4 years and with the program I was in some teachers were deaf and some where hearing. But all were proficient in the language.
Language has 4 variables that makes any kind or type of language to be eternally dynamic. One is time, another one is space, and forgot the other two, but I think one is cultural and yada yada. Every language is prone to change or be manipulated by a culture, and that doesn't mean that it'll be wrong, as long they can understand each other is totally fine. That's the reason of why I hate ppl that corrects on grammar cuz they are the ones that can really understand a msg but still get bothered for an insignificance like proper grammar. In spanish I always hear new words, invented on the fly and I welcome them into my understanding but still try to use proper wordage at work tbh lol love language and its dynamism.
I’m currently learning ASL from a deaf teacher. She tells us not to look up signs we don’t remember because the internet is often wrong. So yeah that definitely makes sense ahah.
Also I love your videos! You’ve helped understand a lot better just in general what it’s like living deaf and being in a hearing world. :)
Oh shes right too. A lot is correct but then they have a few thats another word or just not…anything I taught myself asl and my friend who was going deaf was like uhhhh whered you learn that?? I now know the correct signs lol
so. how are you expected to refresh when you forget certain words?
Hi, just wondering, how do you learn Sign from a deaf teacher? I'm confused because of the language barrier. Thx!
@@lightbringer7834 I can't say this is always the case, but the deaf ASL teacher I knew was reasonably good at the art of reading lips and could speak verbally. Her take was to more or less immerse in ASL, thrn fill in the gaps with other skills.
@@junkmalme Thanks for explaining. That makes a lot of sense!
My uncle has severe Down syndrome and uses sign language to speak sometimes- my tia, grandma and my dad are all fluent in sign language but mostly my dad- I’m not close with my dad nor do I see my grandma much and I never really ask my Tia to teach me so I use movies that use ASL and I teach myself- plus I use RUclips(mostly your videos) to learn and so far I know a few signs but mostly responses to questions aswell as “sorry” and “thank you” but I’m still learning :) I’m autistic so I tend to express myself through hand movements so I feel ASL would be nice to learn so I can keep moving my hands while also speaking.. anyways love your videos!🫶💕
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I feel you on the autism side fr. I'm autistic too and get the sweet joy of selective mutism. I started trying to learn BSL and have been using it to communicate with my mum (well, and whoever else) when I have my little no-speech moments. Thing is, now I'm self-conscious about it because I learned it all online and I'm worried I've been butchering it all this time 😭😭
My aunt (who is deaf) taught me ASL when I was younger! So thankful to have her to learn it from!
Dunno, never seen anyone complain that their spanish teacher’s first language was english. If they know their stuff, they know their stuff
But the cash register didn't know her stuff😭 were you listening?
@@KEEPIN_IT_PEACHY Ok, but then she said “don’t learn ASL from speaking people”. In general. And it’s wild to say that just because of your one bad experience. Plus, the fact that they can speak doesn’t have any influence on their skill at teaching ASL
Yeah, instead learn it from people who sign perfect English on youtube videos and call it ASL (not ASL at all) and misuse the sign for "impossible" when they mean "that." 😅🙄
@@Ascenith Where did I say to do that? Get a real teacher in real life who can prove their credentials. I wouldn’t go to a youtube tutorial for ANYTHING dude.
@@books2438 It was sarcasm pointing out that the author of this video is clearly not even an ASL user (she uses signed English in all her videos, which is /not/ ASL). Not directed at you.
I'm a proficient signer, but just like any language, if you don't use it often enough you will make mistakes. Heck, we make mistakes in our own native tongue. I serve tables myself and occasionally I get deaf guests, who are very surprised that I know more than just a few signs. "Learn from a deaf person" is all well and good, but statistically very few people know a deaf person well enough to teach them. I learned through books, videos, workshops, classes as well as deaf contact. But I had to work hard to actively seek it out. It doesn't just happen in most people's lives.
Lmao almost everyone has access to RUclips and the Internet in general. Everyone cab learn from a deaf person
@@Nana-wi4gi I think the standards of ASL learning are way to high, so i avoid learning it.
(You are aware that 99% of people world wide learning a foreign language learn from teachers who are non native to the language they teach?)
@@Nana-wi4gi "Cab" learn. Funny how you have access to the whole of the internet and still made that mistake. It's almost as if... mistakes happen.
Came for this comment. I was legit thinking this very thing. Took the words right outta my mouth and stated perfectly too BTW. Ty for your comment.
Also, it would usually need to be a deaf person that can talk as well, because if you don't know anything about ASL and they can’t talk to you either how will you learn? Yes there are ways around that but I imagine that many will be complicated or time consuming. Maybe planning to practice with a deaf person once you have a solid enough foundation for it to be efficient would be better.
My deaf friend used to teach me sign language when I was in uni two years ago. He was so fun to hang with and we could even converse with my “broken sign”. He even gave me my sign name. I miss him and his fun spirit.
Do you still keep in touch?
pls tell us that u guys still keep in touch :(
i’m a freshman in hs, taking asl for both language credits, my teacher went to college for deaf education (she’s hearing tho) and she’s really good at teaching it!! she explained the difference between asl and signed english :3
I think it's amazing that she's trying! After my hearing innocent I had to self teach....am I wrong for not learning from a deaf individual? Am I not really part of the deaf community? The effort is there, that should be all that matters
That’s what really irks me about this video… so much Gatekeeping…
It is better to learn from a deaf person because of social nuances. Proper ASL is actually based on French sign, so they can also teach proper sentence structures that being self taught would not. They can also teach you local slang as well. Think of it like a local accent.
That being said, that you are self taught is super impressive. I'm hearing and had to take classes. (This was way before the internet.) I have found that 90% of the deaf people that I have met will be happy that you made the effort. If you explain that you are a self taught hearing person and to please excuse any mistakes, they are a gracious bunch.
She didn’t say anyone was wrong from learning ASL from and non deaf person though lol, and she also said “try” to learn from a deaf person.
@@rolando819nah y’all are just dumb as hell when it comes to signing it’s better to learn from a DEAF person. Signing is more than just moving your fingers to make words. It’s also mouthing the words and having fluid coherent movements
@@rolando819atekeeping?? Yall are doing too much now. She just explained why you should TRY to learn from deaf person, who actually KNOWS how to sign language🙄 how is that gatekeeping if she told us to try and learn it?? Like cmon now😭
I can't for the life of me see the difference between the way she signed chocolate and vanilla and the way that the cashier signed chocolate and vanilla
The way the (Bottom) hand was is facing the wrong way. It should be in a fist facing downward, not sideways (👊 vs 👍 if that helps visually show it more)
Don't know where my last reply went (If it did at all??)
But to restate what I said (Just in case) the bottom hand was in a fist on its side rather then a fist facing down. Its a small thing, but can make a big difference in sign. For example in ASL "Good" and "Bad" are signed very similarly. For good, you take your right hand (🤚 like this) and touch your chin, then bring it down to your left hand, having the back of it hit your left hand. With bad, its the same but you turn your hand as it goes down so the palm hits your left hand, rather then the back. Many signs have very similar patterns but can mean different things..
Two notes:
- I highly suggest looking up how to sign good / bad because my explanation is really bad
- My example used the right hand as the one to move for clarity, but I believe you just use your dominant hand (I'm still learning lol)
The palm orientation was slightly off. However, I’m slightly baffled that this girl got confused by the incorrect sign (and it’s a tiny mistake) like that in the context of the situation she was in. Technically, it isn’t even incorrect signs- just very old ones that you don’t see as often anymore.
Exactly. Ad the toker who made this said "she didn't even bother to correct it." The girl probably didn't SEE it lol
I took ASL in college enough for Gallaudet to declare me “proficient.” 15 years later, we became parents to a baby who was profoundly Deaf and I had to relearn almost everything from before (I’m legit like a young toddler when it comes to my comprehension of ASL), BUT now I’ve got a little girl who comes home and teaches us all the signs when we don’t know them :) Grateful for her school that signs all the things all day long :) Learning preschool level words with her during the pandemic was honestly the best experience… i hope i can continue to grow in my ASL skills so eventually I can speak to her fluently about bigger topics as she gets older.
Because you care, you will. Your daughter will make it an everyday thing.
I know you definitely will! You’re a great parent and care so much :)
I hate that sometimes I can't talk to my deaf parents about deeper topics because I forget the words for it. That's why I'll learn sign language again. Talking about those kinda stuff is what deepens the relationship...
My ASL professor in college was deaf and she was the funnies, most animated person I have ever met to this day! Shout out to Professor Christine, you rock!
I took ASL courses in college and our teacher was non hearing and non verbal so it was completely immersive and probably some of the greatest classes I’ve ever taken.
Oh me too! I was terrified at first but it quickly became my favorite class. It was awesome
wish we had one in our college too
Tbh my grandma was deaf and we signed every day until she passed
And now every deaf person I meet is like mmm that’s not it.
🤷♀️
Low key makes me not want to try/bother 😭
Love the way you worked with her even though it wasn’t same/same and appreciated her efforts
Different country sign language?
Tbh everyone signs a different way, they learn a different way from someone else or they are born somewhere else so they basically have an “accent”
@@Tori-kv1gd that’s fascinating
Same but I always do and apologize if my ask slang is different
@@AlexisDimes Sign language is literally just a deaf person’s language. Deaf babies who aren’t exposed to any sign language will still try to develop sign language to communicate in, and do the babble (babababa sounds babies make) in sign language, making random nonsensical signs. It’s insanely interesting.
I actually love hearing her talk and watching the hand movements
It’s hard to believe she’s deaf- the fact that she speaks and signs in one is amazing to me