Unless it's about some obscure music group, you probably don't get too much expression of joy out of her. Which I find very relatable. Now it would be interesting... If we steered the topic to music, could we get a different mood? Actually depends on how it is implemented. The new GPT-4o could do that (at least the presentation made it look like it can), but I assume they are using the usual chain approach speed recognition, ChatGPT, text to speech. Which is often good enough, far from great.
@@msjkramey yes, every sentence basically had a built in forum where people could discuss them. Since all the sentences are basically computer generated, sometimes there would be issues. Here people could discuss them. It also allowed people to discuss the grammar points and sometimes strange nuances of particular sentences.
@@msjkramey yeah it really sucks they removed the feature. Some theories are they didn't like that people would bash Duolingo because of all the problems users would find. Duolingo claimed it was because it was too hard for them to moderate. Honestly I can't see why they couldn't have just made a moderator system like reddit and other forums.
My main issue is that languages like English and Spanish get all these new features, meanwhile countless other languages don’t have speaking or stories or even audio for the words. (I say this as someone learning Spanish and Hebrew on Duolingo)
I'm learning English and completed the course but don't have the video call feature. Also I once tried Turkish but the voices are typical AI voices and don't have speaking and stories.
@@jvr6809 No, I actually stopped learning German entirely. Was learning because at the time it looked like my daughter was going to attend university in German and I wanted to learn to keep up with them lol. But i'm having SOOOOO much fun learning Russian. Been doing it consistently now for 223 days! Still not comfortable speaking more than extremely basic sentences lol, but i'm picking up russian dialogue on shows and social media now lol
Duolingo died for me the day they deactivated the discussion forums where people could ask, explain, up and down vote replies about the words and phrases used in each exercise. Now no one knows or explains why the language is used in that way, how it is used, if it is natural speech, written speech, formal speech, etc. You have no idea what you are learning and how it compares to actual language use. Biggest mistake Duolingo ever made. I'm still pissed about this change as you can tell. EDIT: I saw the number one upvoted comment about exactly this issue only after I posted my rant lol
Despite the fact that the discussion forum for learners of Danish was trying hard to compensate for the lack of clarifications from Duolingo at the time (6 years ago) I had to give up as we were learning by rote sentences which just didn't make any sense. I remember one for example'I give my daughter chains' or another 'they don't let me go to the garden', both with a slightly chilly undertone if not clarified; as to when you would need such sentences in every day conversation (I was an advanced beginner) was never explained 😂😂
@@nct948 I think Duolingo is good at getting people into language learning in a broader sense. But I would advise anyone who is actually planning on using the language on vacation or reading or everyday life to seek out other language resources shortly after starting on Duolingo. Duolingo has become nothing more than a pay-to-win gaming app that prioritizes ads and keeping an irrelevant "learning streak" instead of actually focusing on the language and rewarding people based on their retention or language use. That "streak" is a fake gimmick with an addictive factor that has nothing to do with actual language learning. I'm not sure if those example sentences got weirder since they deleted the discussion feature but in theory those sentences were good at giving you a sense of how the language works if you added the information from the forums to go along with that.
@@Slapbattler666 Same issue with Japanese with Duolingo not explaining if it's spoken/written language and formal/informal (in Japanese there are a minimum of 3 different modes of formality and then the added layer of speech or writing). The discussion forums very easily mitigated that. It was usually the highest voted comment that explained in what context the example sentence was used (or if it was used at all or sounded unnatural).
@@soojunglee425 im suffering to greek right now, with english not even being my first language, but greek x my first language doesnt exist, so english it is
@@elon4417 How far in are you? I don't have any on my Spanish - assume its a feature that shows up once you've reached a certain level of understanding
Japanese doesn't even have stories. Edit, I was corrected and in fact there are stories at later levels. I still dont think we will get the most flashy features anyway. I would not hold my breath. Duolingo's normal progression is just way too slow for me, and when I skip the lessons I feel like I am not really learning anything espetially that I dont even need to know all the words to pass it just by deducing what goes where. I was hoping for some updates to bring me back but no luck in Japanese.
Pretty much, and there is an over-saturation of powerful tools to help you learn German, French or Spanish, I get it , they're the most popular and I am willing to accept that for most tools, but Duolingo now is so big that I consider is a failing that those 3 languages get the love whilst they neglect the others.
This kind of stuff is where "AI" is genuinely useful, not all that other crap they keep trying to jam it into just to make the shareholders happy by following a trend without any meaning behind it.
@@arioniscool AI's been useful for a long time, it's just not the stuff that usually gets marketed as "AI". Stuff like ChatGPT is just a heavily-marketed recent thing, it's a tiny fraction of what AI is.
@@QwertyuiopThePie i asked chatgpt a simple math question and it just started guessing the answers, how is that useful? And when i need for it to write stories or things for school, it was just full of nonsense and fake words. It ain't useful. (Sorry if this doesn't make sense, im bad with words but even I can write more grammatically correct than chat gpt)
My issue still with duolingo is that I pay for a subscription, but with the recent update they added explanations and I have to pay more the get the explanation. It feels like I need to have a subscription for my subscription lol. And I feel like what I pay vs what they remove every update isn’t worth it, but I wanted to invest in duolingo for the sake of no ads and hopefully improvement. Needing to spend more money feels like a slap in the face.
The reason I'm guessing for the Voice calls being limited to one time per occurrence in the tree is because of the price. Computing machine learning takes a lot of performance and that server time is expensive (especially if you want it as dang responsive as it is)
@@louisegogel7973, I agree. Tree was much better for my ADHD. I could switch back and forth between several equivalent lessons when a certain topic wasn't clicking.
I've been doing Japanese since 2019 and it's much better than when I started; I don't think I would have stuck with it if I didn't already know hiragana and katakana. My SO is doing Spanish and I am so jealous that they have speaking exercises and a podcast.
@@ZiggyGamma yeah but i notice they omit a lot of Kanji learnt, they don't appear on the list like "困" which is recently learnt but it doesn't appear on the list
The big languages like Spanish have significantly more features. I tried German for a bit and mostly dropped my other languages because they're just so bare bones.
Yeah, I've only ever heard her speak in Italian, and it was cool to hear her "I don't wanna participate" attitude in Spanish. (Don't forget, though, that she has other talents, including being the best student in Oscar's art class.)
@@judithjones9612 Maybe. I like to think of her as grounded and cynical. She's the counterpoint to Zari who's excitable and prone to flights of fancy. It's fitting that they're good friends.
The only feature I am looking for is *explanations*. Don't just tell me I got it wrong. Tell me how to get it right. Explain to me how the language works. Don't just throw me off the deep end. This "natural language learning" BS is just plain not going to work for me. If I don't understand what's going on and/or what I Am doing, I'm gonna take my ball and go home. I pick up things like ideas, concepts, rules, information, and systems almost instantaneously. What I don't do is just sort of intuit how something works via constant clueless failure. Someone explain things PLEASE.
You have to upgrade to Duo Max for that. It’s totally worth it for that very thing. I have gotten so much more out of Duo since I’ve upgraded. (Not affiliated with Duo; I was just blown away by how much I liked the explanations parts of Max)
Same here, the discussions feature was great for this, the amount of times I went i there and some random person gave a beautiful explanation of how something works, it was great. I understand why they took it away, but man, I miss it
I have a suggestion for this. Find a beginner level textbook for the language you're learning - PDFs online are often free and easy to find. It'll take you maybe a month to do all the exercises in that book, and that'll help you understand the rules of the language because that's how the textbook is set up.
I have a list of words! It's under the exercises tab. Is it not there for you? Could it be because of my language? Says 859 words, with the most recent learned words at the top.
Really? I find Duolingo's most annoying weakness (aside from poor coverage of some languages) is the totally inadequate approach to noun gender. It expects you to know noun gender; if you get the accompanying article or adjective ending wrong in a sentence, it marks the whole sentence as wrong. However, it does nothing to help you learn noun gender. When new nouns are introduced AND in all the little vocab recap exercises where you match words AND in the hints when you click on words in the English sentence, the nouns are given without articles so you have no idea what their genders are. How hard can it be to present house as "une/la maison" and not just "maison".
Yes!!! I can keep up with basic conversations, but if I want to talk to someone, my noun genders are just as bad s they were when I stopped learning in school classes years ago - my overall facility with the language has drastically improved over the past year of Duolingo, but noun gender? Not at all
Not only is it highly discouraging to find out the language(s) you are learning (or trying to, anyhow) are basically added in as afterthoughts and incomplete, but that if you want to actually have a complete learning experience you need to open the app on PC for the tips section because it is not included on mobile. I had gotten to the point in over three languages where I could not progress and the discussions remarked that if we were confused or stuck, the lesson tips had everything we needed (or external sites, in the case of Irish)... but we had to log in from the PC to see it. Until they fix that, I see no reason to go back. I got a plethora of other things to learn.
That's most of Duolingo unfortunately. Languages, features, even some settings are exclusive to the pc/web version. Very sad when most people, and their huge push is to be used on mobile and on the go.
Do you mean an actual PC app? Because opening Duolingo in the browser doesn't really seems to show more information than the phone app (either that or I just don't know what to look for). I didn't even know there was a dedicated app for PC (probably because I never use MS Store:D)
I only just started learning Japanese through the app and to say it's limited is an understatement. I have since decided to only use their gamified methods to teach myself the Kana alphabets and leave it at that and try to get my actual language skills from elsewhere, even the basics. Not only are the features nowhere near the same but holy cow when even I as a beginner know that some of what they are teaching is varying between overly complicated and formal to completely unnecessary or flat out wrong, that just ain't a good sign. I'd rather not accidentally reinforce bad habits like that. Here's to hoping they eventually do some kind of update to the Japanese course but I am not particularly confident that they will.
I still find the worst part of duolingo is that there are so many instances of American English that make it harder to get answers right due to having to go through an extra layer of language, so I feel like I'm being cheated out of what I actually do understand.
@@joltingonwards2017 That's one which is weird for me. It's one of those amerancisms I'm more familiar with and the French word is more similar, but I forgot that the French word is singular because of pants being plural (yes I know trousers is plural as well, but that information is less pertinent as it's a native term).
Learn a Slavic language because I feel the opposite is true for example in the Czech tree. I think the translations are awkward and funny and not at all how an American English speaker would say them😂 maybe because English taught to Czech speakers is often British English and so maybe the creators used British English basis for their lessons when I started Czech it was made by volunteers and i am sure saw some updates since i stopped for weird translations that i would never say.
I've been studying Korean on Duolingo for over 2 years. I won't hold my breath for us to get these features. We just got Stories not too long ago. I would really love to study with AI.
I supplement my Korean study with Quizlet which I put words I struggle with, and Quizlet AI has Q-chat: a text conversation in the target language utilizing the vocabulary words I've put in.
5:18 ok my thought on them limiting you to only one call............... it could have to do with keeping latency down, and less demand on their servers. if people were allowed to keep using it and a BUNCH were doing it at the same time.... that could perhaps cause a crash, or just horrible delays in the response of the AI. that said..... it could be they are later going to allow it and just need the architecture to support it. (i'm cynical though and feel they are mostly like "see we have this cool thing" without actually letting you use it a lot or anything.)
As long as they still have health points and thus a limited number of mistakes allowed discouraging you from learning new lessons I wouldn't even consider using it again.
I wish they put back interactivity in the courses. It's more fun if you can spontaneously choose what subjects to learn next in the tree model than in a prechosen order.
same. if i'm stuck on a path and can't jump around to things of interest, or into a higher level just to spark the wooooah shtt this is hard! it can get so tedious. :( being so locked in made me stop. but also in a big way, they kept altering french and so what i'd finished was no longer finished and keeping to a deadset schedule to finish by a certain time.... no longer worked. so they locked me into too much ORDER for the actual learning and then also CHAOS for the overall thing. also removing features i liked, and just i never knew what to expect and that was actually stressing me out. some of the things would make me so mad, so if/when i go in, idk if i would be encountering another. and they STILL haven't updated Navajo in all this time!!!
@@knop5519 You are too right, I was way too generous saying 7 years lol Like, we don't even have stories. We don't even have content updates! I'm so tired of the daily refresh 😭
Hei hei! I’m doing the Finnish course right now and am halfway through the entire course. Around 20 days ago I received a message that my course had been „updated”! Perhaps I am part of an AB test - Finnish updates may be coming!
@@SpinelSunlike what even are stories? I like the Finnish tree, seems to have actually useful words and situations (compared to when I did Swedish 6 years ago) - so I thought Finnish got supreme treatment 😅 Only missed the discussions for grammar... But I learn about stories???
@@Nén42 Yeah, I feel like the tree is well-constructed in that sense! If we were to travel to Finland at least we would know some basic and really important vocabulary to help us move around more easily. However, it is missing a lot of stuff (it only covers a couple of the cases, for example) and, as you said, the forums for the grammar extras were not only awesome but very much needed! The stories are a different way to practice and learn, the ones I have seen cover daily life situations and are fully in the target language. They focus on showing you how conversations would go, expand vocabulary, showcase grammar in use... They are really useful! I hope the Finnish course does get an update soon, I miss learning new stuff 😭
"two little fingers, green owl style..." Classic Evan 😎 Congrats on the Spanish progress. Native speaker here. Not bad at all. Especially since you were doing it in real time.
The first time I quit Duolingo was too about losing a long streak. The second time I stopped with Duolingo was because I started to shift my bed times because I either forgot to do a lesson earlier on the evening or I had something else going on. So I found myself repeating a lesson just to maintain the streak and I didn't feel I was making any progress. So as soon as I would pick up Duolingo again I think I should try to ignore these streaks.
It's only for Spanish. I run Portuguese and German just for fun (I'm a native speaker of those languages), and they aren't in. Neither in Italian. So, it's probably only in Spanish, Duolingo main language.
So far I've only seen Podcasts, and only in Intermediate English- some other courses get updates from time to time, so they'll probably get those features at some point. But there are also courses that have maybe a dozen people working on them, which sort of explains why there's not that much going on with them feature-wise:)
I can confirm that neither video calling nor the animated skits are available in Italian. (And I'm on a 880 day streak, so I'm not a beginner learner.)
2:40 that seems pretty good to practice speaking. My main language is Spanish I understand a lot of English like listening writing and reading, but when it comes to speaking I get stuck 😅 I might try Doulingo
I did Duolingo for three years for mostly Italian, French and German. I stopped when they started the forced path system as I really loved the earlier ability to choose from a few available exercises on the level you're at. The forced path is way too repetitious for my taste and especially in smaller languages gets very tedious after a while doing the same phrases over and over again and doesn't really help with expanding the vocabulary.
Duo has always been monotonous even before the infamous united path update but now how i challenge that status quo, i just try to get through to other levels passing the level tests if i got bored with exercises
@@andreyzhuchkov1882 I've been doing a few of the first lessons then the test, through the whole section 2 and 3 of Spanish. I don't know if I'll be able to keep up that pace at the higher levels, but certainly where I am know it feels like slugging through the whole tree would have been extremely tedious.
I gave up on them when they said I was wrong when I was right. Salut. Means hello and goodbye not just goodbye. But mostly hello. I should know. I live in France.
I once tried the German course (Mind you, I'm native German) and of course, it's not perfect. In German it's very normal to write "Ich hab" instead of "ich habe" (I have) which is basically one letter difference, so not a big deal, right? Yeah, no. Duolingo says it's wrong immediately, despite it not even being slang. Duolingo is sometimes so weird, man.
@@ChialesI once tried polish path (and I'm native) and oh boy. One of main thing in our language is that you can skip subject. I can say "ja robię" (I'm doing) but most of the time I say "robię" because it already contains informations who is doing that. And so many sentences had this stiff "on pływa", "ja pływam", "ty pływasz" instead of just one word.
@@Chiales Oh, I don't remember. I think it accepted both versions (full and shortened) but promoted longer. Both are legit ways of talking in polish, but one immediately gives away your not native.
13:45 yes, this is how we germans do it, i learned most of English from the Internet and Videogames which definitely made my English way better and its as good as perfect now
I have to say, with you last comment about language learning it makes me a lot happier with learning Arabic through the app. I played through Assassin’s Creed Mirage recently and I was so happy when I understood some of the background conversations. I don’t need to know the full language, but it’s nice being able to even just understand bits and pieces, even if I’m not fluent. Thanks for the info with the new updates, and I really hope they get added to Arabic (mostly bc my friends doing Dutch and German have stories and I don’t yet)
As always, RIP to the discussion section. The proficiency "score" you mention seems to be an improved version of another feature they did away with in the past which was super helpful and which I've been missing. I think a final thing that separates what content you receive in Duolingo is which app you have- as an Android user, I seem to get new features after my iPhone user friends.
1. I was/am skeptical of the news that Duolingo was letting go of some staff and were gonna lean in on "AI" but seeing these use cases..... im way more optimistic now. Just hope theyre still using real people to provide translations and lessons. 2. I love ur Spanish, Evan. You have a delightful accent in the outro and its way more neutral than when u play up the gringo accent to jokingly say your Spanish isnt that good. Thats insane you have like, comedic chops in a language u havent even mastered. ❤ love ur channel, man.
Gracias! It's the first time I watch one of your videos and it was very interesting to know about the recent updates of Duolingo. I loved your way of communicating, as an English learner it was a nice challenge follow your speed, I feel that I've reached a new level of listening; besides, I laughed a lot! Thanks for that. Saludos desde Chile!
I’m in B1 level of French (section 6, unit 30.) and I do have the Duolingo score (83) but I don’t have the video calls or extra animations. I like the score - I find it more motivating than the XP or the sections… it’s cool to be able to quickly see how far along I am without having to do the math (which I used to do manually periodically to essentially make my own score.)
I am using Duolingo for French too, but do not have the score feature. I am in the last section for A1, so maybe they don't give a score until later? I would really like to see the video call feature in French.
I'm at B2 in French (section 7, unit 32) and I don't have score or video calls. I think I may have the animations, but I've had all of the animations turned off for a long time so I'm not sure. So I think both the score and the video calls are still in A/B testing. I do seem to get a lot of the extra point stuff (regular lessons are frequently 35 points each for me) so I guess I'm in that testing group.
I'm at B1 level too, but in section 5, unit 1. Although I have a breakdown of the things I'm able to do with the language according to my CEFR level, I have no score. However, I've had a new feature for the last couple of weeks. Every now and then I get a question to answer at length, usually one that asks for my opinion on something or other. It's not a video call, but it seems that its goal is also to have you use the language in a less controlled fashion. I think's another step in the right direction.
omg i HATE those. i know some people love it. i wish they did an option to let you pick set path versus open path. that way everyone can have stuff the way they like it.
I’ve noticed the XP boost too. I’ve never understood why the practice lessons (like speaking or listening) would give you more XP than completing the lessons on your course, and since I’m XP driven I had found myself doing the practices rather than the lessons. It’s nice having progress rewarded better than it has been
Thank you for the encouragement. When I get discouraged, because Japanese sometimes seems impossible, I just remind myself that I'm doing it for fun and it is fun. It's my favorite hobby.
japanese on duolingo is terrible. truly bad. there are much better places to learn it. (just from experience and having seen duolingo's course after being at a reasonable level through self-study and Uni courses.)
Hi! I'm Denise and I'm from Merida, Venezuela. I've been using Duolingo to study English for about 4 years now and I'm in the 8th part of the course. I hope that video call option arrives at the version I'm using. I've seen some video game style lessons in the first sections and those were really fun. By the way, your Spanish is good! And interestingly enough, the ad after your video was a Duolingo ad 😂
Hit day 200 of Dutch lessons two weeks ago, and I only used 1 freeze during May! Still loving learning a new language :) As always I appreciate your diverse video content - nice to get variety. EDIT: "Because the sun was rimming me" *Duo completion sound plays* - I laughed out loud.
I quit Duolingo over a year ago because of a combination of frustration with the changes to the app and dealing with the death of my mom and it's aftermath. It left me sad to have quit my language learning. These updates sound exciting. I might just have to give it a try again. Thank you for making the video about it.
I quit it because I felt I wasn't progressing anymore, I think watching yt is much better than just using duolingo, it gets to the point where you don't have much left to learn.
Very funny watching this now, considering I did Irish YEARSSS ago, and have just jumped back in for French in the last month. Having all these new things (like the podcasts) from the beginning is wooonderful. Big fan. TRÉS BIEN.
Vamos Evan! Vas muy bien! 💃 Empecé a seguirte con tus videos de america vs uk y al principio me abrumó la velocidad con la que hablas pero me propuse seguirte (a parte de que obviamente me gusta tu contenido) y mejorar mi nivel de "listening". Hoy te entiendo casi todo🎉 Si consigues que tus vocales suenen secas o cortadas( sólo tenemos 1 fonema por vocal) tu pronunciación dará un salto increíble. Ánimo!😊 (ahora estoy con duolingo🇧🇷 y esas actualizaciones no llegan nunca😢)
I've been using duolingo since 2021 and the buttons to turn off the animations have always been there, in my app. I wonder why they are available to some users only now. But thank goodness they are finally there 😅 because they're really life-saving!
Am currently ready to throw the whole computer through the window as Duo has decided that I am incapable of speaking a particular, very simple, phrase correctly. This has been going on for several days now. It accepts every other phrase I say - even when I know I am mumbling or fluffing part of it- but this particular one - NOPE! You shall not pass!
@@louisegogel7973 I have reported it thanks. Didn't screen shot, just ticked the relevant box. I am able to continue the lesson- but end up running out of hearts, and nothing is completed properly as I have missed that one item. Will keep trying, and hoping it gets sorted (Also, if it doean't work I won't waste time/ hearts trying to to shout at it). Thanks for suggestions.
@@carolineskipper6976 I think screen shots to feedback might be more effective. I always write on my screen shot, pointing out and explaining what I am telling them. You can ask for a response by clicking on the far right icon in the email, if you want it. I have sometimes gotten a response… ‘Thank you for your feedback. We have made the suggested changes.’
I mostly study French on it, and I've had similar experiences. Sometimes it just will NOT take whatever pronunciation I give, and I've otherwise been complimented on how good my accent is. I don't know if this works in every language, but if the system has recognized that I spoke at least half the phrase, I can press the "click to speak" button again, and it often accepts what I gave and moves forward.
@@PurelyCoincidental This particular phrase won't accept any attempts at all - and there's only so many ways you can say ' un apres- midi'. I've moved on, but it's deprived me of any build up of scores.
11:54 I’m also in a more advanced section but I also wouldn’t be surprised if the extra XP is to make up for how many XP people can rack up on the music section since those lessons are a lot quicker than the language learning ones
It was a super sad day for me when, out of the blue, with no warning, that little owl, apparently being a proxy for me, showed up wearing a graduation cap and gown. I had graduated in Spanish and there was no more Spanish there for me. And it was troubling and disappointing knowing full well that there was no more duolingo Spanish for me, and I was nowhere near being fluent. I don't know if Duolingo has added any more levels. Anyway...
I practise English on Duolingo. I don't have video calls and cartoons. But I have those podcasts, and when I complete a story (which you were talking about between 05:25-06:55), I have an extra excercise at the end: I can write a short text about a theme. Sometimes it's: "what was this story about?", but sometimes they ask my opinion or they ask me to tell a story about something that happened in my life. (This part is skippable, but you can get extra points.) I really like these new excercises, they make the app more interesting, more diverse. But they have bugs. - The podcast sometimes just doesn't start. It is loading and loading, but never starts. - In a Duolingo podcast, the characters were talking about a hobby, but the questions were about a totally different hobby. It was like the developers wanted to create a story, then they changed their minds, but they forgot to change the questions according to the new story. - Writing excercises are corrected by AI, but this AI really loves to put "but" in every complex sentence. Even if it needs "and" or nothing. It's always "but" for Duolingo.
Oh okay so I think the new score feature is the replacement for something they took away, which was the progress tests. On desktop if you dug around in menus long enough you could find a test that would cover all content in a course and it was a cool way of checking to see how much you had mastered already. I was bummed when they got rid of the test, especially because it really didn't seem like something that would be costing them any maintenance time. Just more ripping out features and selling them back to users later I guess
Recently, I've noticed some of the language courses are vanishing. My paraguayan friend tried to access Guarani course in Spanish Duolingo and it does not appear anymore (since I "started" Guarani a long time ago, the course still appears to me). I'm brazilian and I know that Esperanto also got removed from Portuguese Duolingo. Can you comment about that? I don't see anyone sharing this, it looks like many people don't know it. I wish they don't remove other minoritarian languages as they seem to have done with Guarani.
I noticed this too. I also have access to the guarani course because I started it long ago (coincidentally I'm also Brazilian), and it's been gone for other people for a while. I think it's an obvious problem, shared with many other of the smaller courses: there just aren't as many speakers of the language with a formation in languages that duolingo can hire. Courses like norwegian and irish are almost vestigial (norwegian was much better until they updated to the path format, now the grammar tips just got removed for no reason), but they are at least still available. But guarani is a big shame for how nice an initiative it is, but how hard it must be to implement.
Tu español está muy bien. BTW thank you for making this video 'cause I am really pumped in going back to Duolingo to improve my German and French. I think conversation is by far the most important aspect of learning a new language. Really excited to see the evolution of these AI chatting animations.
I am an avid hater of AI but I'm really excited about the new video calls feature. This is a rare example of ML being put into good use, in my opinion.
you're doing pretty good if you even have audio. T___T (navajo has practically nothing. like 6 lessons and only 2 have audio) i don't get why they can't get some of these other languages at least more functional instead of fukking around with french and spanish and changing things all day.
Try going to the bottom of the screen (mobile app) and click on the person's face. It takes you to your profile. Click the gear in the upper corner. You should be able to scroll through and turn off the kinds of notifications you don't want.
As an avid Duolingo user for many years, I am excited about these updates! I haven't encountered the video part, yet, but I have seen the parts where the words are hidden (truly auditory parts). I am looking forward to the video parts!
i admire the animators and artists of duolingo so much. i remember back when they didn't even have characters, then just them unmoving, and now they move with accurate lip syncing AND these video calls now?? seeing the development is crazy cool to me and has always inspired me. i frequently wonder what working in that job is like
Learning Welsh on duolingo, i don’t get any of the fun stuff except the constant fear they’re going to dump it entirely rather than the ‘No new updates’ they have now.
I really enjoy watching your videos and LOVE Duolingo. I’ve been using it since 2007, when we moved to Brazil for a 5 year stay. As a teacher, I see and appreciate the efforts they put into continually improving pedagogy. The updates seem great. Thanks for sharing!
@@HowlsHipHippo Oops, forgot I started with Rosetta Stone in 2007 and then changed to Duolingo when it became available. No need for the rudeness by calling bs. It was an honest mistake.
This has actually motivated me to keep going. I’m only in Section 2 Unit 11 and the lessons are getting boring and repetitive so I switched to another language. It’s good to know they get better later on
9:25 I didn’t know what animations you were referring to. But then again, I was very quick to hunt down a way to turn off the annoying motivations. And this reminded me of when I did so. 😂
![Seungmin "그렇게, 천천히, 우리(As we are)" | [Stray Kids : SKZ-PLAYER]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/kAzmhLHePqU/mqdefault.jpg)
Lily sounds so pissed like a person being paid nothing to actually call people
I mean, maybe the voice actor actually was done with it. 🙂
It'd be funny if it wasn't ai after all.
Unless it's about some obscure music group, you probably don't get too much expression of joy out of her. Which I find very relatable.
Now it would be interesting... If we steered the topic to music, could we get a different mood?
Actually depends on how it is implemented. The new GPT-4o could do that (at least the presentation made it look like it can), but I assume they are using the usual chain approach speed recognition, ChatGPT, text to speech. Which is often good enough, far from great.
It’s probably trained on call centre data or something, so it inherited the tone.
Lily is the grouch of the group. Imagine being on a call with Lin or Junior
I still won't forgive them for getting rid of discussions.
It's why I stopped using them for Japanese. Especially since their higher level stuff was horrible without discussions.
Like a forum?
@@msjkramey yes, every sentence basically had a built in forum where people could discuss them. Since all the sentences are basically computer generated, sometimes there would be issues. Here people could discuss them. It also allowed people to discuss the grammar points and sometimes strange nuances of particular sentences.
@@EntropyOfChaos dang, that sounds so cool
@@msjkramey yeah it really sucks they removed the feature. Some theories are they didn't like that people would bash Duolingo because of all the problems users would find. Duolingo claimed it was because it was too hard for them to moderate. Honestly I can't see why they couldn't have just made a moderator system like reddit and other forums.
8 year streak?! the bird has you in a chokehold
It's the same deal for us all buddy.
Hit 365 Days or loose your family
It’s either Spanish or Vanish
@@AntonBaginFrench or the trench
he just want his to keep his family save
Japanese or say goodbye to your knees
My main issue is that languages like English and Spanish get all these new features, meanwhile countless other languages don’t have speaking or stories or even audio for the words.
(I say this as someone learning Spanish and Hebrew on Duolingo)
I'm learning English and completed the course but don't have the video call feature. Also I once tried Turkish but the voices are typical AI voices and don't have speaking and stories.
@@extremaelias3169ye turkish and chinese courses suck
Luckily Russian recently got multiple voices. Still no stories though, which is a shame that was my favorite feature while learning German
@@TaraKaoscan you speak german now?
@@jvr6809 No, I actually stopped learning German entirely. Was learning because at the time it looked like my daughter was going to attend university in German and I wanted to learn to keep up with them lol. But i'm having SOOOOO much fun learning Russian. Been doing it consistently now for 223 days! Still not comfortable speaking more than extremely basic sentences lol, but i'm picking up russian dialogue on shows and social media now lol
Duolingo died for me the day they deactivated the discussion forums where people could ask, explain, up and down vote replies about the words and phrases used in each exercise. Now no one knows or explains why the language is used in that way, how it is used, if it is natural speech, written speech, formal speech, etc. You have no idea what you are learning and how it compares to actual language use. Biggest mistake Duolingo ever made. I'm still pissed about this change as you can tell.
EDIT: I saw the number one upvoted comment about exactly this issue only after I posted my rant lol
Despite the fact that the discussion forum for learners of Danish was trying hard to compensate for the lack of clarifications from Duolingo at the time (6 years ago) I had to give up as we were learning by rote sentences which just didn't make any sense. I remember one for example'I give my daughter chains' or another 'they don't let me go to the garden', both with a slightly chilly undertone if not clarified; as to when you would need such sentences in every day conversation (I was an advanced beginner) was never explained 😂😂
@@nct948 I think Duolingo is good at getting people into language learning in a broader sense. But I would advise anyone who is actually planning on using the language on vacation or reading or everyday life to seek out other language resources shortly after starting on Duolingo. Duolingo has become nothing more than a pay-to-win gaming app that prioritizes ads and keeping an irrelevant "learning streak" instead of actually focusing on the language and rewarding people based on their retention or language use. That "streak" is a fake gimmick with an addictive factor that has nothing to do with actual language learning. I'm not sure if those example sentences got weirder since they deleted the discussion feature but in theory those sentences were good at giving you a sense of how the language works if you added the information from the forums to go along with that.
I hate that when I’m learning German it doesn’t Say if it’s formal or not
@@Slapbattler666 Same issue with Japanese with Duolingo not explaining if it's spoken/written language and formal/informal (in Japanese there are a minimum of 3 different modes of formality and then the added layer of speech or writing). The discussion forums very easily mitigated that. It was usually the highest voted comment that explained in what context the example sentence was used (or if it was used at all or sounded unnatural).
The pain of learning a language that repeatedly gets the shaft while watching the popular languages get showered with gifts is unbelievable...
Eh, that's how it always is. Let them have their fun. We do it the old-school way.
What language are you referring to?
@@soojunglee425 im suffering to greek right now, with english not even being my first language, but greek x my first language doesnt exist, so english it is
Yep, Norwegian is brutal on Duo.
Arabic for me
If ypure not learning english, German, French or Spanish, good luck getting any of these new features.
No AI video in my German feed even, so it might be even rarer than that :(
@@elon4417 How far in are you? I don't have any on my Spanish - assume its a feature that shows up once you've reached a certain level of understanding
@@rhys3778 fair point. I'm at section 3 out of 5.
Japanese doesn't even have stories.
Edit, I was corrected and in fact there are stories at later levels. I still dont think we will get the most flashy features anyway.
I would not hold my breath. Duolingo's normal progression is just way too slow for me, and when I skip the lessons I feel like I am not really learning anything espetially that I dont even need to know all the words to pass it just by deducing what goes where. I was hoping for some updates to bring me back but no luck in Japanese.
Pretty much, and there is an over-saturation of powerful tools to help you learn German, French or Spanish, I get it , they're the most popular and I am willing to accept that for most tools, but Duolingo now is so big that I consider is a failing that those 3 languages get the love whilst they neglect the others.
This kind of stuff is where "AI" is genuinely useful, not all that other crap they keep trying to jam it into just to make the shareholders happy by following a trend without any meaning behind it.
Fr cause this is like the first time (in a long long time) that AI was actually useful
Só, do you didn't liked the birdbrain managing the learning or you didn't knew it?
@@arioniscool No, ChatGPT was always useful for language-learning.
@@arioniscool AI's been useful for a long time, it's just not the stuff that usually gets marketed as "AI". Stuff like ChatGPT is just a heavily-marketed recent thing, it's a tiny fraction of what AI is.
@@QwertyuiopThePie i asked chatgpt a simple math question and it just started guessing the answers, how is that useful? And when i need for it to write stories or things for school, it was just full of nonsense and fake words. It ain't useful. (Sorry if this doesn't make sense, im bad with words but even I can write more grammatically correct than chat gpt)
My issue still with duolingo is that I pay for a subscription, but with the recent update they added explanations and I have to pay more the get the explanation. It feels like I need to have a subscription for my subscription lol. And I feel like what I pay vs what they remove every update isn’t worth it, but I wanted to invest in duolingo for the sake of no ads and hopefully improvement. Needing to spend more money feels like a slap in the face.
'Hi, welcome to Lily and strangers, where I'm forced to talk to people I don't know'😭
The reason I'm guessing for the Voice calls being limited to one time per occurrence in the tree is because of the price. Computing machine learning takes a lot of performance and that server time is expensive (especially if you want it as dang responsive as it is)
You know what, that’s absolutely gotta be it! Good point
I wish the tree format to be returned as at least an option instead of this single dumb path they have.
Give AI a few years, it will be getting a lot more energy efficient soon.
@@louisegogel7973, I agree. Tree was much better for my ADHD. I could switch back and forth between several equivalent lessons when a certain topic wasn't clicking.
@@louisegogel7973 Yeah, I miss that a lot. I do spend a lot of time on the practice sessions, though.
I do Japanese I didn't realise I was missing out on so many features available in other languages.
Same! But you know, at least we finally got Kanji =)
@@krank23 FUCK THEY GOT KANJI NOW
I've been doing Japanese since 2019 and it's much better than when I started; I don't think I would have stuck with it if I didn't already know hiragana and katakana. My SO is doing Spanish and I am so jealous that they have speaking exercises and a podcast.
@@ZiggyGamma yeah but i notice they omit a lot of Kanji learnt, they don't appear on the list like "困" which is recently learnt but it doesn't appear on the list
The big languages like Spanish have significantly more features. I tried German for a bit and mostly dropped my other languages because they're just so bare bones.
Definitely got that introverted "ugh, why are they calling me" vibe I expected from Lily! Hahah 😂
Yeah, I've only ever heard her speak in Italian, and it was cool to hear her "I don't wanna participate" attitude in Spanish. (Don't forget, though, that she has other talents, including being the best student in Oscar's art class.)
Lily is depressed😢
@@judithjones9612 Maybe. I like to think of her as grounded and cynical. She's the counterpoint to Zari who's excitable and prone to flights of fancy. It's fitting that they're good friends.
German lily feels very Berlin it's funny
It's her normal, especially if you get the "Call with Lily" lessons - they sound just like that
The only feature I am looking for is *explanations*. Don't just tell me I got it wrong. Tell me how to get it right. Explain to me how the language works. Don't just throw me off the deep end. This "natural language learning" BS is just plain not going to work for me. If I don't understand what's going on and/or what I Am doing, I'm gonna take my ball and go home. I pick up things like ideas, concepts, rules, information, and systems almost instantaneously. What I don't do is just sort of intuit how something works via constant clueless failure. Someone explain things PLEASE.
You have to upgrade to Duo Max for that. It’s totally worth it for that very thing. I have gotten so much more out of Duo since I’ve upgraded. (Not affiliated with Duo; I was just blown away by how much I liked the explanations parts of Max)
Correcto
I don’t know if this is for all courses but that is a feature that comes with Duolingo max
Same here, the discussions feature was great for this, the amount of times I went i there and some random person gave a beautiful explanation of how something works, it was great.
I understand why they took it away, but man, I miss it
I have a suggestion for this. Find a beginner level textbook for the language you're learning - PDFs online are often free and easy to find. It'll take you maybe a month to do all the exercises in that book, and that'll help you understand the rules of the language because that's how the textbook is set up.
I still haven’t forgiven them for getting rid of the old path. I am now more motivated to do the exercises under the barbell rather than lessons.
I think that Duo's big gap is that I cannot get a list of all the words I have learned so far.
Hmm, they did used to have a “words” tab on desktop. Do they not still? I bet it’s somewhere in their API you could possibly scrape?
@@evan If so, I would love to learn how to do that!
I have a list of words! It's under the exercises tab. Is it not there for you? Could it be because of my language? Says 859 words, with the most recent learned words at the top.
I think it might be blocked behind Super or whatever the subscription is called
Yeah they have it behind a pay wall now. YOu need to get Super and it's in the practice section.
the first 15 seconds made me think i put the video in 2x speed, lmao
Eh, it wont that fast
Did you try 2x speed to see what you’re missing?
it really wasn't that fast mate
It's pretty tame for Evan lol.
terrifying
Do I use Duolingo? No. Am I watching this? With enthusiasm! Love the overall delivery on everything you do, Evan. I learn so much every time!
“I don’t like Duolingo!” Meanwhile: “here’s my 2982 day streak”
Really? I find Duolingo's most annoying weakness (aside from poor coverage of some languages) is the totally inadequate approach to noun gender. It expects you to know noun gender; if you get the accompanying article or adjective ending wrong in a sentence, it marks the whole sentence as wrong. However, it does nothing to help you learn noun gender. When new nouns are introduced AND in all the little vocab recap exercises where you match words AND in the hints when you click on words in the English sentence, the nouns are given without articles so you have no idea what their genders are. How hard can it be to present house as "une/la maison" and not just "maison".
Yes!!! I can keep up with basic conversations, but if I want to talk to someone, my noun genders are just as bad s they were when I stopped learning in school classes years ago - my overall facility with the language has drastically improved over the past year of Duolingo, but noun gender? Not at all
can't wait for none of these to make their way to the japanese course!
hey, at least japanese has stories, other languages dont have stories...
@@samsam21amb i don't see stories on my pc or phone...
Same with Swedish 😅
@@samsam21amb We get stories, but not until near the end of section 3.
@samsam21amb I think your wrong aJapanese course has none of this things
AI really helps me get over the embarrassment of trying to talk in a language I don't know. This is a great new feature
Not only is it highly discouraging to find out the language(s) you are learning (or trying to, anyhow) are basically added in as afterthoughts and incomplete, but that if you want to actually have a complete learning experience you need to open the app on PC for the tips section because it is not included on mobile. I had gotten to the point in over three languages where I could not progress and the discussions remarked that if we were confused or stuck, the lesson tips had everything we needed (or external sites, in the case of Irish)... but we had to log in from the PC to see it.
Until they fix that, I see no reason to go back. I got a plethora of other things to learn.
That's most of Duolingo unfortunately. Languages, features, even some settings are exclusive to the pc/web version. Very sad when most people, and their huge push is to be used on mobile and on the go.
Do you mean an actual PC app? Because opening Duolingo in the browser doesn't really seems to show more information than the phone app (either that or I just don't know what to look for).
I didn't even know there was a dedicated app for PC (probably because I never use MS Store:D)
it looks completly different on pc and its annoying because i need grammar info and cant find anything
The Irish lessons are very poor on duo. (I'm fluent and my Dad's first language is Irish, so believe me when I say the pronunciation is awful.)
I get the tips when using Duolingo on my tablet. They aren't like they use to be in course with the tree version, and find them almost meritless
I tried out an AI app that a language school wanted to use. I quickly convinced the AI to approve of cannibalism.
I only just started learning Japanese through the app and to say it's limited is an understatement. I have since decided to only use their gamified methods to teach myself the Kana alphabets and leave it at that and try to get my actual language skills from elsewhere, even the basics. Not only are the features nowhere near the same but holy cow when even I as a beginner know that some of what they are teaching is varying between overly complicated and formal to completely unnecessary or flat out wrong, that just ain't a good sign. I'd rather not accidentally reinforce bad habits like that. Here's to hoping they eventually do some kind of update to the Japanese course but I am not particularly confident that they will.
I still find the worst part of duolingo is that there are so many instances of American English that make it harder to get answers right due to having to go through an extra layer of language, so I feel like I'm being cheated out of what I actually do understand.
Yeah I always get confused by "pants"
For me that refers to underwear, for some (mostly Americans) it refers to trousers
@@joltingonwards2017 That's one which is weird for me. It's one of those amerancisms I'm more familiar with and the French word is more similar, but I forgot that the French word is singular because of pants being plural (yes I know trousers is plural as well, but that information is less pertinent as it's a native term).
For me it's football, soccer and American football which confuses me. Having to translate from French to American to English is so confusing.
Learn a Slavic language because I feel the opposite is true for example in the Czech tree. I think the translations are awkward and funny and not at all how an American English speaker would say them😂 maybe because English taught to Czech speakers is often British English and so maybe the creators used British English basis for their lessons when I started Czech it was made by volunteers and i am sure saw some updates since i stopped for weird translations that i would never say.
@@naomiparsons462I really hate the fact it always talks about a soccer game, why is there no British English?!
What I love about the option to listen is that it still lets you repeat it or reveal it if you get stuck
I've been studying Korean on Duolingo for over 2 years. I won't hold my breath for us to get these features. We just got Stories not too long ago. I would really love to study with AI.
You guys have stories?? I'm happy just to have listening
I supplement my Korean study with Quizlet which I put words I struggle with, and Quizlet AI has Q-chat: a text conversation in the target language utilizing the vocabulary words I've put in.
Oh I was sure my new target language also wouldn't have Stories. Is it locked into Super?
we have stories now?? i think i have to wait for it to update
can I ask which unit/section you're on? I haven't seen the stories feature yet
5:18 ok my thought on them limiting you to only one call............... it could have to do with keeping latency down, and less demand on their servers. if people were allowed to keep using it and a BUNCH were doing it at the same time.... that could perhaps cause a crash, or just horrible delays in the response of the AI. that said..... it could be they are later going to allow it and just need the architecture to support it. (i'm cynical though and feel they are mostly like "see we have this cool thing" without actually letting you use it a lot or anything.)
"Gut genug" is a pretty high compliment from a German or Austrian
I fell off Duolingo some time ago but your video made me reconsider. I'll give it a go and start over! 😃
As long as they still have health points and thus a limited number of mistakes allowed discouraging you from learning new lessons I wouldn't even consider using it again.
Same, the owl has gotten me again
i stopped using it after they removed the tree
I wish they put back interactivity in the courses. It's more fun if you can spontaneously choose what subjects to learn next in the tree model than in a prechosen order.
Yes, my streak ended when they changed that.
Exactly. It became so boring I stopped.
I disagree, I find following a set path to be more motivating
same. if i'm stuck on a path and can't jump around to things of interest, or into a higher level just to spark the wooooah shtt this is hard! it can get so tedious. :( being so locked in made me stop. but also in a big way, they kept altering french and so what i'd finished was no longer finished and keeping to a deadset schedule to finish by a certain time.... no longer worked. so they locked me into too much ORDER for the actual learning and then also CHAOS for the overall thing. also removing features i liked, and just i never knew what to expect and that was actually stressing me out. some of the things would make me so mad, so if/when i go in, idk if i would be encountering another. and they STILL haven't updated Navajo in all this time!!!
@@kestrelthesoldier it'd be nice if they had an option for doing it your way, a set path, or ticking an option to allow you to jump around.
I'm still mad about the forums, but those updates sound awesome and so necessary. Can't wait to enjoy them in the Finnish course in 7 years lol
Thats what i thought too. They will never add that to the finnish course i fear :/
@@knop5519 You are too right, I was way too generous saying 7 years lol
Like, we don't even have stories. We don't even have content updates! I'm so tired of the daily refresh 😭
Hei hei! I’m doing the Finnish course right now and am halfway through the entire course. Around 20 days ago I received a message that my course had been „updated”! Perhaps I am part of an AB test - Finnish updates may be coming!
@@SpinelSunlike what even are stories? I like the Finnish tree, seems to have actually useful words and situations (compared to when I did Swedish 6 years ago) - so I thought Finnish got supreme treatment 😅 Only missed the discussions for grammar... But I learn about stories???
@@Nén42 Yeah, I feel like the tree is well-constructed in that sense! If we were to travel to Finland at least we would know some basic and really important vocabulary to help us move around more easily.
However, it is missing a lot of stuff (it only covers a couple of the cases, for example) and, as you said, the forums for the grammar extras were not only awesome but very much needed! The stories are a different way to practice and learn, the ones I have seen cover daily life situations and are fully in the target language. They focus on showing you how conversations would go, expand vocabulary, showcase grammar in use... They are really useful!
I hope the Finnish course does get an update soon, I miss learning new stuff 😭
I don’t think we’re using the same duolingo 😅😅
Yeah... I don't have this feature and I am also english to spanish.
@@CSProduction12I think it's only for Iphone, it is not on Android yet
Some people are getting rollout first. I get all updates weeks before my wife.
Definitely not in mine
Only for paid subscribers unfortunately 😢
"two little fingers, green owl style..."
Classic Evan 😎
Congrats on the Spanish progress. Native speaker here. Not bad at all. Especially since you were doing it in real time.
Im so excited for this!😁
I fell off Duolingo about a year ago after breaking my 1 year streak in Japanese. I got so upset I rage quit😅
Ya gotta have those streak freezes. You've done it! You can do it again!
The first time I quit Duolingo was too about losing a long streak. The second time I stopped with Duolingo was because I started to shift my bed times because I either forgot to do a lesson earlier on the evening or I had something else going on. So I found myself repeating a lesson just to maintain the streak and I didn't feel I was making any progress.
So as soon as I would pick up Duolingo again I think I should try to ignore these streaks.
I used duolingo for a few weeks for english, but I soon quit it and went to watch yt instead
I quit for a while after moving to a new country and breaking my streak due to timezones 😭
I quit Duolingo Arabic because all I get now is daily exercises with always the same sentences, it's unbearable. And still no speaking exercises...
It's only for Spanish. I run Portuguese and German just for fun (I'm a native speaker of those languages), and they aren't in. Neither in Italian. So, it's probably only in Spanish, Duolingo main language.
So far I've only seen Podcasts, and only in Intermediate English- some other courses get updates from time to time, so they'll probably get those features at some point. But there are also courses that have maybe a dozen people working on them, which sort of explains why there's not that much going on with them feature-wise:)
I can confirm that neither video calling nor the animated skits are available in Italian. (And I'm on a 880 day streak, so I'm not a beginner learner.)
I never saw them in German and I have 1200-sth day streak
The almighty owl-gorithm!
2:40 that seems pretty good to practice speaking. My main language is Spanish I understand a lot of English like listening writing and reading, but when it comes to speaking I get stuck 😅 I might try Doulingo
Fascinating. I very much support any upgrades related to audio. I also love motivational messages.
I did Duolingo for three years for mostly Italian, French and German. I stopped when they started the forced path system as I really loved the earlier ability to choose from a few available exercises on the level you're at. The forced path is way too repetitious for my taste and especially in smaller languages gets very tedious after a while doing the same phrases over and over again and doesn't really help with expanding the vocabulary.
But if I ever have the opportunity to share my knowledge that in Italy we don’t hide eggs with the children at Easter, I’ve got it down.
💯
@@carolstettheimer9906 😀😀
Duo has always been monotonous even before the infamous united path update but now how i challenge that status quo, i just try to get through to other levels passing the level tests if i got bored with exercises
@@andreyzhuchkov1882 I've been doing a few of the first lessons then the test, through the whole section 2 and 3 of Spanish. I don't know if I'll be able to keep up that pace at the higher levels, but certainly where I am know it feels like slugging through the whole tree would have been extremely tedious.
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I gave up on them when they said I was wrong when I was right. Salut. Means hello and goodbye not just goodbye. But mostly hello. I should know. I live in France.
That's interesting! I'm Romanian, for us Salut only means hello, I find it strange to think of that word as anything but a greeting.
I once tried the German course (Mind you, I'm native German) and of course, it's not perfect. In German it's very normal to write "Ich hab" instead of "ich habe" (I have) which is basically one letter difference, so not a big deal, right? Yeah, no. Duolingo says it's wrong immediately, despite it not even being slang. Duolingo is sometimes so weird, man.
@@ChialesI once tried polish path (and I'm native) and oh boy. One of main thing in our language is that you can skip subject. I can say "ja robię" (I'm doing) but most of the time I say "robię" because it already contains informations who is doing that. And so many sentences had this stiff "on pływa", "ja pływam", "ty pływasz" instead of just one word.
@@ololo518 And Duolingo didn't accept that or counted it as a mistake? Or is it actually good with Polish?
@@Chiales Oh, I don't remember. I think it accepted both versions (full and shortened) but promoted longer. Both are legit ways of talking in polish, but one immediately gives away your not native.
I’ve literally just came back to duolingo after a month of break and now this vid pops up lol
Me too
Cause the Owl is watching you 🤣
Nice, Spanish, mate! 2:46 You're answers sound pretty natural. Way to go!
13:45 yes, this is how we germans do it, i learned most of English from the Internet and Videogames which definitely made my English way better and its as good as perfect now
I have to say, with you last comment about language learning it makes me a lot happier with learning Arabic through the app. I played through Assassin’s Creed Mirage recently and I was so happy when I understood some of the background conversations. I don’t need to know the full language, but it’s nice being able to even just understand bits and pieces, even if I’m not fluent.
Thanks for the info with the new updates, and I really hope they get added to Arabic (mostly bc my friends doing Dutch and German have stories and I don’t yet)
As always, RIP to the discussion section. The proficiency "score" you mention seems to be an improved version of another feature they did away with in the past which was super helpful and which I've been missing. I think a final thing that separates what content you receive in Duolingo is which app you have- as an Android user, I seem to get new features after my iPhone user friends.
1. I was/am skeptical of the news that Duolingo was letting go of some staff and were gonna lean in on "AI" but seeing these use cases..... im way more optimistic now. Just hope theyre still using real people to provide translations and lessons.
2. I love ur Spanish, Evan. You have a delightful accent in the outro and its way more neutral than when u play up the gringo accent to jokingly say your Spanish isnt that good. Thats insane you have like, comedic chops in a language u havent even mastered. ❤ love ur channel, man.
My friend told me the biggest lesson dualingo taught him was how to escape a toxic relationship and finally say goodbye.
Gracias! It's the first time I watch one of your videos and it was very interesting to know about the recent updates of Duolingo. I loved your way of communicating, as an English learner it was a nice challenge follow your speed, I feel that I've reached a new level of listening; besides, I laughed a lot! Thanks for that.
Saludos desde Chile!
I’m in B1 level of French (section 6, unit 30.) and I do have the Duolingo score (83) but I don’t have the video calls or extra animations. I like the score - I find it more motivating than the XP or the sections… it’s cool to be able to quickly see how far along I am without having to do the math (which I used to do manually periodically to essentially make my own score.)
Ah cool! Yeah as much as I’d love to have a score, I’d rather have the video call feature
I am using Duolingo for French too, but do not have the score feature. I am in the last section for A1, so maybe they don't give a score until later? I would really like to see the video call feature in French.
I'm at B2 in French (section 7, unit 32) and I don't have score or video calls. I think I may have the animations, but I've had all of the animations turned off for a long time so I'm not sure. So I think both the score and the video calls are still in A/B testing. I do seem to get a lot of the extra point stuff (regular lessons are frequently 35 points each for me) so I guess I'm in that testing group.
I’m on 23 score, unit 3 section 7, and 206 day streak of French. You’re way further than I am. I don’t have the video call either.
I'm at B1 level too, but in section 5, unit 1. Although I have a breakdown of the things I'm able to do with the language according to my CEFR level, I have no score. However, I've had a new feature for the last couple of weeks. Every now and then I get a question to answer at length, usually one that asks for my opinion on something or other. It's not a video call, but it seems that its goal is also to have you use the language in a less controlled fashion. I think's another step in the right direction.
I really love your energy in this video! You seem genuinely excited and the video feels nicely structured :)
wow, i just clicked on this randomly and learned something life changing (disabling the motivational messages). Thanks.
I aim to give at least one big useful tip each duo vid :)
Fair warning to you that for both my wife and I, Duo just clicks them back on after a random while. :/
@@TokahfangI never get them besides once in every recap lesson (this one on the end of unit). Weird.
Very clutch!
omg i HATE those. i know some people love it. i wish they did an option to let you pick set path versus open path. that way everyone can have stuff the way they like it.
3:15 ngl i a human would take longer to respond in another language
Indeed, the owl has unusual and bloody beats.
The mysterious Owl-Gore-Rhytmns
I’ve noticed the XP boost too. I’ve never understood why the practice lessons (like speaking or listening) would give you more XP than completing the lessons on your course, and since I’m XP driven I had found myself doing the practices rather than the lessons. It’s nice having progress rewarded better than it has been
I actually don't know what XP is. I see it a lot in the app, but never understood what it is.
The owl giveth and the owl taketh away.
But mostly it taketh away.
Thank you for the encouragement. When I get discouraged, because Japanese sometimes seems impossible, I just remind myself that I'm doing it for fun and it is fun. It's my favorite hobby.
japanese on duolingo is terrible. truly bad. there are much better places to learn it. (just from experience and having seen duolingo's course after being at a reasonable level through self-study and Uni courses.)
i hope these updates come to the less used languages! i’m currently doing korean & chinese and i’m curious to see them myself
Hi! I'm Denise and I'm from Merida, Venezuela. I've been using Duolingo to study English for about 4 years now and I'm in the 8th part of the course. I hope that video call option arrives at the version I'm using. I've seen some video game style lessons in the first sections and those were really fun. By the way, your Spanish is good! And interestingly enough, the ad after your video was a Duolingo ad 😂
Hit day 200 of Dutch lessons two weeks ago, and I only used 1 freeze during May! Still loving learning a new language :) As always I appreciate your diverse video content - nice to get variety.
EDIT: "Because the sun was rimming me" *Duo completion sound plays* - I laughed out loud.
Gefeliciteerd. Waarom heb je gekozen om Nederlands te leren? Woon je in Nederland?
@@wingedyera Dank je wel! Ik woon in de UK, maar ik heb Nederlandse vrienden 😄
Geweldig! Ik woon ook in VK, en mijn beste vriendin is een Nederlander!
@@Miller1107 als Nederlander ben ik altijd verbaasd als iemand Nederlands wil leren. Maar ergens ben ik er ook wel trots op.
I quit Duolingo over a year ago because of a combination of frustration with the changes to the app and dealing with the death of my mom and it's aftermath. It left me sad to have quit my language learning. These updates sound exciting. I might just have to give it a try again. Thank you for making the video about it.
I am sorry for your loss. Losing your mom is hard. Sending you a big hug ❤. See you at Duo's!
I quit it because I felt I wasn't progressing anymore, I think watching yt is much better than just using duolingo, it gets to the point where you don't have much left to learn.
I was so excited when I saw this video was posted I’ve been waiting for you to post a Duolingo video!🤣🤣
Very funny watching this now, considering I did Irish YEARSSS ago, and have just jumped back in for French in the last month. Having all these new things (like the podcasts) from the beginning is wooonderful. Big fan. TRÉS BIEN.
I’m working in a big duo video for January!
I'd like Duolingo to restore the tree they removed in favour of the path.
Vamos Evan! Vas muy bien! 💃 Empecé a seguirte con tus videos de america vs uk y al principio me abrumó la velocidad con la que hablas pero me propuse seguirte (a parte de que obviamente me gusta tu contenido) y mejorar mi nivel de "listening". Hoy te entiendo casi todo🎉
Si consigues que tus vocales suenen secas o cortadas( sólo tenemos 1 fonema por vocal) tu pronunciación dará un salto increíble. Ánimo!😊
(ahora estoy con duolingo🇧🇷 y esas actualizaciones no llegan nunca😢)
I'd dig a documentary style video about duolingo coming from you bro LOL cheers from Tierra del Fuego, Argentina!!!
Thanks Evan I now have removed annoying sound effects and motivational animations!
Glad I could help!
I've been using duolingo since 2021 and the buttons to turn off the animations have always been there, in my app.
I wonder why they are available to some users only now. But thank goodness they are finally there 😅 because they're really life-saving!
Evan!! I haven’t watched your content in so long. I am so happy to see you on my RUclips again ❤❤
Tu español es excelente para solo haber aprendido el idioma usando Duolingo, Congrats.
Also, great video, i liked it ;D
Am currently ready to throw the whole computer through the window as Duo has decided that I am incapable of speaking a particular, very simple, phrase correctly. This has been going on for several days now. It accepts every other phrase I say - even when I know I am mumbling or fluffing part of it- but this particular one - NOPE! You shall not pass!
Did you report it and screen shot it to send in feedback?
Also, to finish your lesson, are you able to click, can’t speak now?
@@louisegogel7973 I have reported it thanks. Didn't screen shot, just ticked the relevant box. I am able to continue the lesson- but end up running out of hearts, and nothing is completed properly as I have missed that one item. Will keep trying, and hoping it gets sorted (Also, if it doean't work I won't waste time/ hearts trying to to shout at it). Thanks for suggestions.
@@carolineskipper6976 I think screen shots to feedback might be more effective. I always write on my screen shot, pointing out and explaining what I am telling them.
You can ask for a response by clicking on the far right icon in the email, if you want it. I have sometimes gotten a response… ‘Thank you for your feedback. We have made the suggested changes.’
I mostly study French on it, and I've had similar experiences. Sometimes it just will NOT take whatever pronunciation I give, and I've otherwise been complimented on how good my accent is.
I don't know if this works in every language, but if the system has recognized that I spoke at least half the phrase, I can press the "click to speak" button again, and it often accepts what I gave and moves forward.
@@PurelyCoincidental This particular phrase won't accept any attempts at all - and there's only so many ways you can say ' un apres- midi'. I've moved on, but it's deprived me of any build up of scores.
I hope we can get some of these features in Gaelic. Just basic speaking exercises would be nice.
yess im learning gaidhlig and it gets nothing😭 only good thing is they dont use ai for the audio
Bless you ten thousand fold for the Strong Bad reference at the end.
Turns out my "stereotypicalish Mexican accent in Spanish" is just a bad Strong Bad impression haha
11:54 I’m also in a more advanced section but I also wouldn’t be surprised if the extra XP is to make up for how many XP people can rack up on the music section since those lessons are a lot quicker than the language learning ones
It was a super sad day for me when, out of the blue, with no warning, that little owl, apparently being a proxy for me, showed up wearing a graduation cap and gown. I had graduated in Spanish and there was no more Spanish there for me. And it was troubling and disappointing knowing full well that there was no more duolingo Spanish for me, and I was nowhere near being fluent. I don't know if Duolingo has added any more levels. Anyway...
Strong Bad Edinger was just what I needed today.
Evan: (in New Yorker accent) Hey, I’m learning here!
it's not in my tree yet.... but rly looking forward to trying it out
I practise English on Duolingo. I don't have video calls and cartoons. But I have those podcasts, and when I complete a story (which you were talking about between 05:25-06:55), I have an extra excercise at the end: I can write a short text about a theme. Sometimes it's: "what was this story about?", but sometimes they ask my opinion or they ask me to tell a story about something that happened in my life. (This part is skippable, but you can get extra points.)
I really like these new excercises, they make the app more interesting, more diverse. But they have bugs.
- The podcast sometimes just doesn't start. It is loading and loading, but never starts.
- In a Duolingo podcast, the characters were talking about a hobby, but the questions were about a totally different hobby. It was like the developers wanted to create a story, then they changed their minds, but they forgot to change the questions according to the new story.
- Writing excercises are corrected by AI, but this AI really loves to put "but" in every complex sentence. Even if it needs "and" or nothing. It's always "but" for Duolingo.
Oh okay so I think the new score feature is the replacement for something they took away, which was the progress tests. On desktop if you dug around in menus long enough you could find a test that would cover all content in a course and it was a cool way of checking to see how much you had mastered already. I was bummed when they got rid of the test, especially because it really didn't seem like something that would be costing them any maintenance time. Just more ripping out features and selling them back to users later I guess
This is awesome. Now if only they could bring literally any of these features to the Swedish course.
Recently, I've noticed some of the language courses are vanishing. My paraguayan friend tried to access Guarani course in Spanish Duolingo and it does not appear anymore (since I "started" Guarani a long time ago, the course still appears to me). I'm brazilian and I know that Esperanto also got removed from Portuguese Duolingo. Can you comment about that? I don't see anyone sharing this, it looks like many people don't know it. I wish they don't remove other minoritarian languages as they seem to have done with Guarani.
I noticed this too. I also have access to the guarani course because I started it long ago (coincidentally I'm also Brazilian), and it's been gone for other people for a while. I think it's an obvious problem, shared with many other of the smaller courses: there just aren't as many speakers of the language with a formation in languages that duolingo can hire. Courses like norwegian and irish are almost vestigial (norwegian was much better until they updated to the path format, now the grammar tips just got removed for no reason), but they are at least still available. But guarani is a big shame for how nice an initiative it is, but how hard it must be to implement.
my experience with Duolingo is that it teaches you how to solve Duolingo tasks. that was very... whelming.
Tu español está muy bien. BTW thank you for making this video 'cause I am really pumped in going back to Duolingo to improve my German and French. I think conversation is by far the most important aspect of learning a new language. Really excited to see the evolution of these AI chatting animations.
I just found the video call feature. Sheesh - it is fantastic. I hope they SUPER expand it.
I am an avid hater of AI but I'm really excited about the new video calls feature. This is a rare example of ML being put into good use, in my opinion.
Rip in learning greek (one of the most overlooked courses on duolingo)
...we still didn't get stories
you're doing pretty good if you even have audio. T___T (navajo has practically nothing. like 6 lessons and only 2 have audio) i don't get why they can't get some of these other languages at least more functional instead of fukking around with french and spanish and changing things all day.
I personally wish I could remove tracking day and streaks it ruin it for me and stresses me out to make deadline expecially with hearts
same!!
Try going to the bottom of the screen (mobile app) and click on the person's face. It takes you to your profile. Click the gear in the upper corner. You should be able to scroll through and turn off the kinds of notifications you don't want.
As an avid Duolingo user for many years, I am excited about these updates! I haven't encountered the video part, yet, but I have seen the parts where the words are hidden (truly auditory parts). I am looking forward to the video parts!
i admire the animators and artists of duolingo so much. i remember back when they didn't even have characters, then just them unmoving, and now they move with accurate lip syncing AND these video calls now?? seeing the development is crazy cool to me and has always inspired me. i frequently wonder what working in that job is like
I won’t forgive them for deleting the wildfire achievement.
Learning Welsh on duolingo, i don’t get any of the fun stuff except the constant fear they’re going to dump it entirely rather than the ‘No new updates’ they have now.
I have yet to see any of the video lessons. I am on B1 in French now.
I also have not seen the score on mine, but perhaps I am in the B group for that.
I'm at B2 in French (section 7, unit 32) and have seen neither video calls nor score yet.
I really enjoy watching your videos and LOVE Duolingo. I’ve been using it since 2007, when we moved to Brazil for a 5 year stay. As a teacher, I see and appreciate the efforts they put into continually improving pedagogy. The updates seem great. Thanks for sharing!
You've been using an app that was released in 2011 since 2007? I detect bs.
@@HowlsHipHippo Oops, forgot I started with Rosetta Stone in 2007 and then changed to Duolingo when it became available. No need for the rudeness by calling bs. It was an honest mistake.
wow, that strongbad impression was insanely spot on.
Duolingo video calls sre only available to Spanish and French for English speaking users, and only on iOS (Apple) devices.
One of the updates that happened recently is in Japanese. Now we can finally learn each kanji character, and wven how to write them !!!
these titles are starting to get a bit repetitive, "duolingo broke this feature, duolingo fixed its mistake!" Duolingo: the king of self sabotage XD
Right… duolingo the self sabotage master!
This has actually motivated me to keep going. I’m only in Section 2 Unit 11 and the lessons are getting boring and repetitive so I switched to another language. It’s good to know they get better later on
9:25 I didn’t know what animations you were referring to.
But then again, I was very quick to hunt down a way to turn off the annoying motivations.
And this reminded me of when I did so. 😂