The game even has the Digimon equivalent of "Mew is under the truck at the S.S. Anne harbor" with "Kimeramon has a 1/666 chance of spawning on the 99th floor of Tera domain."
There's a lot of attack names that were changed, Party Time is Unchi in Japanese, which just means poop, Sad Water Blast is Sorrow Blue, Hyper Flashing is Enigma, Protect Grenade is Destruction Grenade, which is literally the opposite of protecting, etc.~ Some of the names do come from the dubbed anime, but for others, like Party Time, I have no idea what they were thinking~
@@SpeechlessWolf I dunno, it seems like they knew exactly what they were doing 🤧. But Protect Grenade is interesting, I always wondered about that name.
Long comment from a Digimon nerd: Digimon World 2 It's a Game with a interasting plot that somehow gets Lost in the grind nightmare, and other silly stuffs related to the Game. A Game that needs a remake in the style of Cyber Sleuth, with all the lore of the current Digimon franchise. The Digital World 2 of World 2 It's just a simulation created by humans. Somehow this simulation started to get "real". The God of this World, Gaia traped all humans inside this simulation, while plans to control all the Digimon too. Your character It's just another human sended to this World to help the people. But Akira can't scape. And like all others humans, Akira gets amnesia. So Gaia, this evil fake god whispers to all Digimons in this World to them to become wild. This World It's like a military dystopia. The people in the high Ranks are more "closed" to the true of this World. Infact, only chief Carol knows that they are just sleeping in the real World just like SAO. Crimson it's seems as evil because he knows the ultimate truth of this World: that they are all inside a simulation. This fact It's important because it may change our perception of this character. Sadly, the Game didn't make something interasting with this plot at all.
Digimon World 2, along with 3 and Card Battle is my favorite PS1 game. Eventhough i never finished the game, i love the dungeon crawling aspect and the 3 vs 3 battle. I can say that this game is the foundation for future digimon games, especially the digimon stories and cybersleuth franchise
During the battles, I used to draw my Digimon, flip through the guide, and plan out what I wanted to DNA into in order to learn as many new moves [and receive as few repeat Digimon] as possible. The slowness doesn't bother me since I like doing other things while I play games. It can make it hard to figure out where to slot in the time for it though. I agree it's hard to explain what makes this game so lovable. I can't really defend it in any way, but I do think it's worth trying to those that are curious. Also, one fun fact about the Veemon line -- in the instruction manual you can see a screencap of an example DNA Digivolution of Greymon & Airdramon with the textbox indicating Veemon is the result. So even though you can't find them in the wild, they still try to hint at how you can get one.
"Get on your knees and say please" is how you beg for forgiveness in Japanese. It's not him being perverted, he's basically saying beg for forgiveness before I hurt you"
I know people rightfully hate the level caps in this game... But I kind of love it. I usually got around the stress of it by having 2 "main Digimon" slightly off from each other so I could use one to rapidly level up the other post dna-digivolution and using my third slot for a fodder mon that I I'd raise up to to a level breakpoint (usually level 15 for the +3 level cap)... Of course, the fact that I still remember all this 20+ years later might not be a good sign, playing the early Digimon games optimally required mor studying than your average exam.
Digimon World 2 is kinda curious since like for how much "problem" its said and did have, its easilly the most enduring concept the series had outside of World 1 The systems are later used in Story and Cyber Sleuth. For how infamous the 9999999999 system are, its something the entire story series of games used And like generally when talking about monsters games few mentioned the sheer influence DQM had to the overall genre and its particularly relevant here because Digimon World 2 is like the most blatant DQM1 "rip off" ever. Almost everything about World 2 can basically be traced back into DQM1, down to the most ridiculous details like how DP as a mechanics works EXACTLY like +s(Like DP, Pluses are increased eveerytime you breed into a new monster and can influence results, for example, at DP5, Slime would breed into King Slime). The fact that catching monsters involves giving gifts, beat them up, then the one you beat up LAST is the one you get. The level cap? yeah DQM had that too. They also both used randomly generated dungeon(DQM didnt use overworld enemy though Another is like, im never particularly heavy into World 2 Vanilla, so i don't know if this is something Vanilla 2 also do, but in Alternative rom hack, the overall fusion results are based on a table of Digimon Races So for example, "internally" Agumon is a Dragon. Veedramon is a bird. If you combined Agumon and Veedramon, you'd get Vaccine Type Bird-Dragon. Veemon is the Rookie result for "bird Dragon". And yeah the reason why Phoenixmon is the mega are supposed to make sense for Veedramon is because internally Veedramon is a bird. Supposedly the entire Veemon line EXCEPT Veemon is actually Bird(including Flamedramon and Raidramon). Veemon is Dragon(although it mostly doesn't matter) Looking at DNA calculator though this system seems to be a thing in Vanilla. Checking some fusion results: Greymon + Tuskmon - Dragon x Dragon - Vaccine = Agumon Greymon + Monochromon and Tyrannomon - Dragon x Dragon - Data = Elecmon(who mostly evolves into Data Dragons). Similarly Monochromon + Master Tyranomon also results on Elecmon since theyre both Dragons and Data type wins out World 3 was honestly the one game in Digimon who actually are wearing the Pokemon influence fully(it had the exact "fight gyms to be the best" pattern). Digimon from the get kinda saw a lot more SMT influence if anything(and World 2 specifically is just DQM).
Thanks a bunch for all that detailed info, Kaiba! I've never played DQM 1, but it seems like the Devs definitely did 😅. The DNA results stuff is also quite intriguing.
You convinced me to try this game, mostly because I've played the old Dragon Quest Monsters games which sound VERY similar in their level progression (minus the mystery dungeon-esque traps). I like those games, so playing World 2 is gonne be kind of an experiment if speed is all it takes to make this system more fun. DQM(or DWM in the US) is pretty quick and snappy compared to this one, all things considered. What I find funny is that despite all the inconsistency and experimentation in the Digimon videogame space, the return to lv1 to get stronger loop seems to persist throughout. The 3 localized World RPGs on the DS have it as well, and require DNA digivolution ala this game to jump evolution lines and gather techs. Heck, even the most modern games, Cybersleuth and Hacker's Memory still rely on going back to Lv1 to move up and down the tree (though they sadly removed the stat inheritance part, making it kinda useless in that way) That's nothing to say about the unlocalized games. I still need to check out some of those via fantranslations.
That fusion mechanic sounds exactly like smt. Demons either dont level up or they level up extremely slow. This encourages to keep fusing and updating your teams. Except that demon fusing always lets you make a stronger demon.
There's another frustrating thing(at least for me) about this game is the item storage, especially when you put them in the online storage. Multiple items don't stack as x2 in your storage but rather occupy ANOTHER item slot. It really makes you think of how much resources to stock up and managing them while exploring the domains. Missiles, which comes with drill and mag. Bug Zap, which has 4 variants; BIT, memory, energy, and the dreaded return. And also the myriad of items to prepare like part fix/mech fix/ep-packs etc. So yea, quite a bit of itemization before heading out to explore a domain.
Not even lying I rented the game as a kid and thought I had a glitched copy of the game because of the leveling. It didn’t help my friend told me he never had the level caps, turns out he was a heavy GameShark user. So what did I do? I bought the game brand new. Still had the level caps. Then I caught onto the DNA digivolution. Loving the videos. Have you tried the randomizer? It’s interesting to say the least.
That is a really crazy story! Thank you for sharing it! :D I am glad you're enjoying the videos, Ken! Do you mean the Alternative Mod when you say Randomizer? I have heard of it, and I will probably cover it at some point down the line! 😇
Bro. Nice vids. The 13 seconds load time is because the emulatos is configured to be precise. Overcloaking it reduces a lot the load time and the delay of the attacks too
I missed the existence of DW2 when I was a kid (I'm guessing bc it doesn't seem to have gotten an official PAL/EU release) and only played 1 & (200)3, so it’s really fascinating to be able to learn about this more in depth Gotta say after watching this though, I think I'm happy to not have experienced playing this one firsthand... I like that they built on the DW1 setting, and Mystery Dungeon style games are cool, but... It's not what I would've wanted from another DW game. And those load times are horrifying...
I'm convinced that Party Time was supposed to be called Potty Time, but a translation error combined with a censorship screw-up led to the move's name getting messed up.
Amazing Video!, I would love to see you do a full video on Digimon World 2 Redux, a revamp mod which fixes alot of the weird difficulty issues in the fights, adds better dialogue, and even puts in some new digimon to spice things up, I always found myself dropping out of the original digimon world 2 while trying to finish it cause of nostalgia, But the mod really spiced things up enough for me to finally finish the entire thing. Might want to give it a shot :D
I am glad you enjoyed the video, Kirova! :D I do know about the World 2 Mod, and I do intend to get to it eventually. Maybe not right away, but definitely soon! 😇
The Digimon games are all rough around the edges in some way or another, but I feel like they all have a weird cosy vibe. DW2 included. Sure, it's slow as hell. But sometimes that's just what you need. You can easily put on a podcast or a movie while playing this game and grinding it out.
Not gonna lie man I loved the hell outta DMW2 as a kid... I remember grinding it out to get an Imperialdramon via a guide I printed from the internet! Strangely my Imperialdramon was the strongest Digimon I had and everyone else were weak and I was really thinking why... Alas I never beat the gane since my copy snapped... Then a few years later I played Dragon Warrior Monsters for GBC and it was just like DMW2 but much streamlined! Here I learned the breeding mechanic and how to make your monsters stronger and it reminded me of DNA Digivolving here! When you breed monsters too you get a + symbol on their stats and it increasing their level caps!
You got Imperialdramon, too? I had the strategy guide book and worked my tail off getting Veemon then Flamdramon, Raidramon and finally his Mega. Worth it. Beat the game with him. I wish DW2 in way despite the grinding, but if I replay I’m using mods to speed it up next time.
@@viruschris3160 sure did man! Shame his fighter form isnt here but his dragon mode is more than enough for the main campaign! Yeah same here, if I'll go back I'll get a speed up for the game as well as its slooooooooooooooooooow
Yeah, I don't know if I'll ever get over having a virtual pet that looks like a grown man in a silly costume, which will growl and shit on the floor if I don't escort it to a toilet in time.
Few things we can do to save this god awful game and make it a remake games (no, DW 1 no need because Re Digitize is like a remake for it): + make the 3v1 boss battles actually the kind of guy with 1k HP and dealing 100+ area damage to party or causing debuff or having passives. ESPECIALLY for Guardian, Chaos Lord and Crimson. Make them legit hard. + battles loadtime might be tied with game limitations and same for when the attack commences. Make those 5x faster to process and now any non-boss encounters will no longer be chore. + no BS map layout or at least give at least 1 solutions to open those electric fences that deals damage and blocks path, either from a relatively rare enemy drops or from ground/lesser chest. Oh and also allow the buggy's node animation to check for ANY traps in front of him, including bugs/spider traps. + removes level caps on Digimon, or if the game still intended to keep that crap on, at least make the DNA Digivolve meaningful by giving, says 7 or 10+ level cap rather than 4 or 6 only, and especially by making the resulting child a Rookie but with boosted EXP gain until it almost reach level/Digi level higher than the parents. That way, grind is not a much much more any problem. + one last thing to add, is to make every human/buggy encounters except Cecilia, WAY harder boss battles with escalating difficulties and diverse team (or thematic teams). Especially for the complete pushovers Bertran and the PC Leaders. Hope these changes along with others that i might not add or forget, can make DW2 games a lot more better than before. 🫡
I agree with almost every point you make about this game. But I cannot help but absolutely love this unconventional masterpiece of a game! It is my absolute favorite, I spent hours upon hours grinding through its random generated, but still predictable, corridors. DNA combining trying to give my favorite Digimon the coolest move sets. I have only beaten the game once during my teenage years but I couldn't help but start a new run again and again and again.... and again! Even to this day, I just wanna go back to it, driving my sentient digicar aimlessly in a dungeon looking for a cool Digimon to beat into *friendship* ♥
Digimon World 2 is my favorite Digimon game on the PS1. I remember spending hundereds of hours grinding away at the game when I was in middle school. I didn't know about the unobtainable digimon like Kimeramon tho since I didn't have internet back then.
I thin kthe biggest thing in comparison with the other game is just no one expected to be a JRPG, I think they never bringed it to europe, so I couldnt play it, but they bringed 3 and called it Digimon 2003 xD which I think is the better experimentation on this concept. This definetly screams Shin Megami Tensei inspired
@@CrystalPapa xD I did not know that and it was a game from my Childhood, Ive actually recently uploaded a guide on how to get Op in the 2003 version instead of the 3 version xD Maybe that might cause some issues if I dont know which ones are the exact changes that happened. But I guess if 2003 is the definitive edition then Ill say Ill stick with what Ive already uploaded
The reason why I can not play this game is the spinning animation when changing screens. OMG it makes me sick!! I really wanted to give it a try, because I was in a mood for level grinding monsters... But I just can't.
this game is my first ever game as a child. i remember play it, choose agumon, then during the dungeon my mother ask me to stop playing and dress me well. cuz that day, i need to register to kindergarten. i have love and hate feelings with this game. the love part is catching any wild digimon you meet, and the digivolve part is satsifying. the hate part is of course, the Lvl grind and repetition in dungeon. definitely digimon 1 is better, or digimon 3 if i want to play some rpg tactical game(even tho this game is really confusing for a child)
I think Blood Knights that aren't Damien and Crimson are just humans with face-concealing helmets, kinda like Stormtroopers. Faceless goons and cannon fodders, basically. If you look closely, Crimson wears similar helmet without concealing his face since he's a named character, unlike the nameless goons.
I grew up with Digimon and for some reason, Digimon World 2 was the one that stuck out to me. DW3 was fantastic but I always went back to 2. I feel it's pretty ignored and glossed over but it was such a unique idea.
DW2 has a special place in my heart. Me and my brother would play this every holiday as kids and never finish it because we never had a memory card, so we had to restart each run. Good times lol. That being said this game is majorly flawed. It felt like it was trying to be a better Pokémon game with 3d graphics and attack animations, a complex story, a better incentive to "catch em all" as it became an incentive for DNA Digivolving, etc.... However it felt like it had good intention with not enough time really fine tune each element, making it very grindy and dragged out. The sound track is still timeless tho!
Digimon World 2 was in development at the same time as Digimon World 1, but it looks like the success of the first game changed it's trajectory a bit to reference it.
First PS1 game I had as a kid and I loved it. Literally spent 300+ hours on one file. Looking back now though I realize like 275 of that was tedious grinding do to the games horrible leveling system.
this game was so much worse on original hardware. that slowness in battles is the game having to load data off the disc and process it as it goes, so there'd be a 4-5 second load time before every attack. but it's near instant with an iso and a good computer.
DW3 was one of my favs back when I was a kid, replayed it recently and it has so much backtracking it's insane, this game really needed a fast travel method besides submarinemon and digmon
I remember when DW2 was teased on the old european PlayStation site... It was announced at the same tame as the first World.... And World 2 was never released in the PAL region, lol. Played it, but never completed it on a modded console. The original world was a fairly popular title here, however, never understood why World 2 wasn't released in europe.
I really enjoyed grinding in this game and aiming for a strong team with both strong aoe and st hits. Sadly I ended up finishing the game before having my ""perfect team" lmao. While I agree that sometimes leveling is tedious, I used to listen to music or doing phone calls while farming
Digimon was always more mature than Pokemon. How often did the anime have mature themes like leadership and the struggles that happened numerous times between Matt and Tai and how it affected the group as a whole. The theme of death and rebirth. I always saw the show as more mature. The digidestined having to make incredibly adult and mature decisions when they themselves are quite young. Yes Ash and the gang had team rocket and the like but the digiestined had to save the world from evil forces multiple times. As for the Game i really enjoyed it and honestly if i could make a pitch for a digimon game i'd largely use Digimon World 2 to showcase it. Keep the 3 teams we have in as guard clubs or create new ones to give out missions and our starter digimon. You mention that the game enviorment pales in comparison to the first with 2 having a dungeon crawler vs 1's several locations. Games now a days like Pokemon Legends Arceus and Genshin Impacts open world sections could be a start for a Digimon game. Have the real File Island have Toy Town and all these special areas that are home to certain digimon that we can tame similar to how we get them in Digimon World 2. Extend to online play with the tamer club serving as a GTS of sorts for trades and battles and perhaps even bring back the collseum and have tournaments that way. I enjoyed the battle system as well and it could use some tweaking. But i loved this game and for years have wanted to see something like it get to see the light of day again.
There is this annoying when i got trap by a return bug that really pisses me off especially when im in a deeper floor and i got stumble to this return bug BS i dont have any choice but to retreat and start all over again damn
"I played it countless times as a kid but never completed it, even though the game didn't love me back." im in this post and i dont like it For me the nostalgia is almost entirely rooted in the soundtrack (Leomon's tutorial boss theme goes hard) and the cheesy Engrish voice clips on all of the moves.
I tried to get into this game. Unfortunately i really couldnt get into it, maybe i will try another time. I think it ought to get an updated version like digimon world: next order.
I'm sure others have mentioned Dragon Quest Monsters already but if you haven't tried it, you would definitely like it as that's actually what DW2 basically stole everything from.
6:00 Reminds me of mainline Shin Megami Tensei how this game functions. They expect you to fuse or in Digimons case, DNA Digievolve/Jogress two Digimons together to get a new one. Issue is somehow this game manages to take that concept and make it painful. At least in SMTs case, you can jump around on upgrading/downgrading based on materials fused. This game its always a downgrade which means more grind...yipee 😭
this game was easy if you train too hard, there is a hard mode romhack, 14:15 you can get that chest by opening it from an angle, traps aint too bad if you just upgrade your tank to see where they are, dealing with traps is a different story.
Digimon world 2 is like that 1 big guilty pleasure for me. I know its shit and has awful implementation of its ideas… but I dunno man I find the DNA digivolution idea such a cool idea for the time with the skill transfer etc to make your perfect movesets and having stronger mons especially if you merge 2 digimon that have been merged many time already. Its something I wish they’d try again and improve upon (exp boost for example for digimon that have digivolved to catch em up to where they were before. Its biggest issue though its the speed of it all I agree. That is so unforgivable for this game and it makes you appreciate the speed up function of an emulator even more.
Lemme check the sales on scarlet and violet and the ratings on the latest season of the anime and I’m left back to you on that lmao. I’ve been getting back into digi world 1 but pokemon always gonna be #1 in the world and my heart and man the digimon fans really trying to convince themselves it has a leg up on Pokémon in any way… it doesn’t lmao, even to this day, but digimon world 1 is great.
Digimon World 1 is still my favorite DW game of the PS1 days. Even with the newer one with improved mechanics I still go back to this classic. Especially after learning all the ins and the outs that make the game incredible. The pre-rendered backgrounds and the way you move around in the world is best. And it’s based off of the original V-Pet which is where most of its mechanics is from. With Digimon World 2, even with the strategy guide it did take me time to beat the game. Despite the many headaches I had to go through it with I got my Veemon to Imperildramon and beat the game. Agumon was my starter. The bugs sucked especially Return and Memory. Even still I love this game. It was an odd game, but I wouldn’t mind a remastered with fixes to the speed of the game. And never got the hidden Digi Beetle parts which you need to talk to certain NPCs 99 times to get each of the parts. So tedious. I wouldn’t mind playing it again with a different team.
To be fair, the game at this point is 20+ years old, about 24 years and 2 months to be more specific which really goes to show how much of a 2 and a half decade gap the PS1 era of games are to the PS5 (or even the PS4). Playstation 1 and 2 definitely had plenty of gems and i would say Digimon world 2 is just an example of dungeon-like play with 3D graphics before things were perfectly refined. Plus how the Digimon brand wanted to focus more on trying different things which i felt was one of its strong suites since they came out with alot of stuff that may of not been good per-say, but likely were amongst some of the flops to lead to other things refining those genres in other ways by building off whatever it failed at. Now a days, games have so much power put behind them so they would need to rebuild plenty of PS1 and 2 era games from scratch to actually be able to interact with the capabilities later gaming hardware can put out to result in a massive speed up. Even showing how many conviences many games get as a norm these days were not exactly present in those more arcadic times...Such as how some more recent titles can get flipped off if they have a large `open world` like game and they decide NOT to include a fast travel feature. Either way, if we had more dungeon crawlers made in a similar motif as digimon world 2, i would likely find them interesting, such as some other PS2 and PSP titles like Guided Fate Paradox, Zettai hero project, the pokemon mystery dungeon series, because those were always a fun examples of what were the percursors to what were rogue-likes in general, before they went 100% in full swing with meta progression and reset on entry progression based elements. But seriously, at how he pointed at the `slow animations` for attacks, this is more of a example of the attack being qued up and then firing it off, just like how pokemon did it back in the day, which you can really notice the problem even in more recent pokemon games still to this day, since just like certain older yugioh games back on the game boy advance era, they were made to likely do a bunch of checks which resultedi n sluggish parts. Example: Digimon world 2 had the ability todo things like counter attacks against other enemy actions aka actions that could interrupt your own, so on a Playstation 1 level of clunky hardware, it would take time to process those kinds of things and do something like cancel the animation that was first going to go off and instead play the other one which is just a fine example of how much of a difference designing a game back then was compared to now, especially with what kind of tools and what not are at people`s fingertips where they can likely one man dev team imitations of older games with relative ease now.
telling digimon story like this is not fair, you have ignored all the motives digimon is as it is, the way you put it seems like a pokemon rip off, but doing that is not knowing or at least forgetting that digimon comes from tamagochi
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The game even has the Digimon equivalent of "Mew is under the truck at the S.S. Anne harbor" with "Kimeramon has a 1/666 chance of spawning on the 99th floor of Tera domain."
Oh I know it quite well 😅. I've made an entire video about Kimeramon 🤧.
I remember finding Kimeramon one time, he was hiding under a truck trust me my uncle works at bandai @@CrystalPapa
Pros:
-It's Digimon.
-The models for Digimon are cute and cool.
Cons:
-This whole game.
😂😂
To the point!
As much as I love this game, this is so true
Pokemon told me to kidnap pets
@@hillandfox3215 actually no. Pokemon games, with the exception of Coliseum, don't allow you to catch other people's pokemon (their pets)
There's a lot of attack names that were changed, Party Time is Unchi in Japanese, which just means poop, Sad Water Blast is Sorrow Blue, Hyper Flashing is Enigma, Protect Grenade is Destruction Grenade, which is literally the opposite of protecting, etc.~
Some of the names do come from the dubbed anime, but for others, like Party Time, I have no idea what they were thinking~
@@SpeechlessWolf I dunno, it seems like they knew exactly what they were doing 🤧.
But Protect Grenade is interesting, I always wondered about that name.
"Theres a Party in my pants and moms invited"- Babies probably
Oh and it is Unchi rather than Unko? So it is the kiddy version of it too xD
Party kinda sounds like Potty, a small training toilet for kids.
Long comment from a Digimon nerd:
Digimon World 2 It's a Game with a interasting plot that somehow gets Lost in the grind nightmare, and other silly stuffs related to the Game.
A Game that needs a remake in the style of Cyber Sleuth, with all the lore of the current Digimon franchise.
The Digital World 2 of World 2 It's just a simulation created by humans. Somehow this simulation started to get "real".
The God of this World, Gaia traped all humans inside this simulation, while plans to control all the Digimon too.
Your character It's just another human sended to this World to help the people. But Akira can't scape. And like all others humans, Akira gets amnesia.
So Gaia, this evil fake god whispers to all Digimons in this World to them to become wild.
This World It's like a military dystopia. The people in the high Ranks are more "closed" to the true of this World.
Infact, only chief Carol knows that they are just sleeping in the real World just like SAO.
Crimson it's seems as evil because he knows the ultimate truth of this World: that they are all inside a simulation. This fact It's important because it may change our perception of this character.
Sadly, the Game didn't make something interasting with this plot at all.
Digimon World 2, along with 3 and Card Battle is my favorite PS1 game. Eventhough i never finished the game, i love the dungeon crawling aspect and the 3 vs 3 battle. I can say that this game is the foundation for future digimon games, especially the digimon stories and cybersleuth franchise
It's crazy how much inspiration modern Digimon games took from World 2!
During the battles, I used to draw my Digimon, flip through the guide, and plan out what I wanted to DNA into in order to learn as many new moves [and receive as few repeat Digimon] as possible. The slowness doesn't bother me since I like doing other things while I play games. It can make it hard to figure out where to slot in the time for it though.
I agree it's hard to explain what makes this game so lovable. I can't really defend it in any way, but I do think it's worth trying to those that are curious.
Also, one fun fact about the Veemon line -- in the instruction manual you can see a screencap of an example DNA Digivolution of Greymon & Airdramon with the textbox indicating Veemon is the result. So even though you can't find them in the wild, they still try to hint at how you can get one.
"Get on your knees and say please" is how you beg for forgiveness in Japanese. It's not him being perverted, he's basically saying beg for forgiveness before I hurt you"
I know people rightfully hate the level caps in this game... But I kind of love it.
I usually got around the stress of it by having 2 "main Digimon" slightly off from each other so I could use one to rapidly level up the other post dna-digivolution and using my third slot for a fodder mon that I I'd raise up to to a level breakpoint (usually level 15 for the +3 level cap)... Of course, the fact that I still remember all this 20+ years later might not be a good sign, playing the early Digimon games optimally required mor studying than your average exam.
Digimon World 2 is kinda curious since like for how much "problem" its said and did have, its easilly the most enduring concept the series had outside of World 1
The systems are later used in Story and Cyber Sleuth. For how infamous the 9999999999 system are, its something the entire story series of games used
And like generally when talking about monsters games few mentioned the sheer influence DQM had to the overall genre and its particularly relevant here because Digimon World 2 is like the most blatant DQM1 "rip off" ever.
Almost everything about World 2 can basically be traced back into DQM1, down to the most ridiculous details like how DP as a mechanics works EXACTLY like +s(Like DP, Pluses are increased eveerytime you breed into a new monster and can influence results, for example, at DP5, Slime would breed into King Slime). The fact that catching monsters involves giving gifts, beat them up, then the one you beat up LAST is the one you get. The level cap? yeah DQM had that too. They also both used randomly generated dungeon(DQM didnt use overworld enemy though
Another is like, im never particularly heavy into World 2 Vanilla, so i don't know if this is something Vanilla 2 also do, but in Alternative rom hack, the overall fusion results are based on a table of Digimon Races
So for example, "internally" Agumon is a Dragon. Veedramon is a bird. If you combined Agumon and Veedramon, you'd get Vaccine Type Bird-Dragon. Veemon is the Rookie result for "bird Dragon". And yeah the reason why Phoenixmon is the mega are supposed to make sense for Veedramon is because internally Veedramon is a bird. Supposedly the entire Veemon line EXCEPT Veemon is actually Bird(including Flamedramon and Raidramon). Veemon is Dragon(although it mostly doesn't matter)
Looking at DNA calculator though this system seems to be a thing in Vanilla. Checking some fusion results:
Greymon + Tuskmon - Dragon x Dragon - Vaccine = Agumon
Greymon + Monochromon and Tyrannomon - Dragon x Dragon - Data = Elecmon(who mostly evolves into Data Dragons). Similarly Monochromon + Master Tyranomon also results on Elecmon since theyre both Dragons and Data type wins out
World 3 was honestly the one game in Digimon who actually are wearing the Pokemon influence fully(it had the exact "fight gyms to be the best" pattern). Digimon from the get kinda saw a lot more SMT influence if anything(and World 2 specifically is just DQM).
Thanks a bunch for all that detailed info, Kaiba!
I've never played DQM 1, but it seems like the Devs definitely did 😅.
The DNA results stuff is also quite intriguing.
The digimon anime has always been better than the Pokemon one, Digimon games are hit and miss but when they hit they're better than the Pokemon games.
I’ll be that guy: what’s the party time song/where is it from? 😂🤘
You convinced me to try this game, mostly because I've played the old Dragon Quest Monsters games which sound VERY similar in their level progression (minus the mystery dungeon-esque traps). I like those games, so playing World 2 is gonne be kind of an experiment if speed is all it takes to make this system more fun. DQM(or DWM in the US) is pretty quick and snappy compared to this one, all things considered.
What I find funny is that despite all the inconsistency and experimentation in the Digimon videogame space, the return to lv1 to get stronger loop seems to persist throughout. The 3 localized World RPGs on the DS have it as well, and require DNA digivolution ala this game to jump evolution lines and gather techs. Heck, even the most modern games, Cybersleuth and Hacker's Memory still rely on going back to Lv1 to move up and down the tree (though they sadly removed the stat inheritance part, making it kinda useless in that way)
That's nothing to say about the unlocalized games. I still need to check out some of those via fantranslations.
It's crazy to me how much of an impact the World 2 systems had on future Digimon games 😅.
Oh no. Hope you have the time to enjoy the ride
That fusion mechanic sounds exactly like smt. Demons either dont level up or they level up extremely slow.
This encourages to keep fusing and updating your teams. Except that demon fusing always lets you make a stronger demon.
There's another frustrating thing(at least for me) about this game is the item storage, especially when you put them in the online storage.
Multiple items don't stack as x2 in your storage but rather occupy ANOTHER item slot. It really makes you think of how much resources to stock up and managing them while exploring the domains.
Missiles, which comes with drill and mag.
Bug Zap, which has 4 variants; BIT, memory, energy, and the dreaded return.
And also the myriad of items to prepare like part fix/mech fix/ep-packs etc.
So yea, quite a bit of itemization before heading out to explore a domain.
Not even lying I rented the game as a kid and thought I had a glitched copy of the game because of the leveling. It didn’t help my friend told me he never had the level caps, turns out he was a heavy GameShark user.
So what did I do? I bought the game brand new. Still had the level caps. Then I caught onto the DNA digivolution.
Loving the videos. Have you tried the randomizer? It’s interesting to say the least.
That is a really crazy story! Thank you for sharing it! :D
I am glad you're enjoying the videos, Ken! Do you mean the Alternative Mod when you say Randomizer? I have heard of it, and I will probably cover it at some point down the line! 😇
if they'd remaster and fix the long loading times, slow preattack waiting, make ending feel so pointless this would be perfect game imo.
Bro. Nice vids. The 13 seconds load time is because the emulatos is configured to be precise. Overcloaking it reduces a lot the load time and the delay of the attacks too
I missed the existence of DW2 when I was a kid (I'm guessing bc it doesn't seem to have gotten an official PAL/EU release) and only played 1 & (200)3, so it’s really fascinating to be able to learn about this more in depth
Gotta say after watching this though, I think I'm happy to not have experienced playing this one firsthand... I like that they built on the DW1 setting, and Mystery Dungeon style games are cool, but... It's not what I would've wanted from another DW game. And those load times are horrifying...
While I do understand what you're saying, there is a somewhat fun game underneath all the poop!
Just gotta find it in there 😅.
The end to your video killed me. Sub earned, I look forward to more Digimon content.
Great video! Hopefully you get around to covering other Digimon games in the future, preferably ones that are actually good.
Glad you liked the vid, Aidan!
Yeah I am definitely gonna get around to covering the other games soon!
I'm convinced that Party Time was supposed to be called Potty Time, but a translation error combined with a censorship screw-up led to the move's name getting messed up.
Amazing Video!, I would love to see you do a full video on Digimon World 2 Redux, a revamp mod which fixes alot of the weird difficulty issues in the fights, adds better dialogue, and even puts in some new digimon to spice things up,
I always found myself dropping out of the original digimon world 2 while trying to finish it cause of nostalgia, But the mod really spiced things up enough for me to finally finish the entire thing.
Might want to give it a shot :D
I am glad you enjoyed the video, Kirova! :D
I do know about the World 2 Mod, and I do intend to get to it eventually. Maybe not right away, but definitely soon! 😇
@@CrystalPapaAs someone who beat 2 but could not ensure a second playthrough, even with that mod. I would also appreciate a video on that.
@@pennylessz Well I'll try to get around to it soon, then! :D
This game should be called "Digimon Mystery Dungeon" because that's what it is.
This is the first vid I've seen where you show yourself. It's good to finally put a face to the voice. Keep it up
The Digimon games are all rough around the edges in some way or another, but I feel like they all have a weird cosy vibe. DW2 included. Sure, it's slow as hell. But sometimes that's just what you need. You can easily put on a podcast or a movie while playing this game and grinding it out.
Not gonna lie man I loved the hell outta DMW2 as a kid... I remember grinding it out to get an Imperialdramon via a guide I printed from the internet!
Strangely my Imperialdramon was the strongest Digimon I had and everyone else were weak and I was really thinking why...
Alas I never beat the gane since my copy snapped...
Then a few years later I played Dragon Warrior Monsters for GBC and it was just like DMW2 but much streamlined! Here I learned the breeding mechanic and how to make your monsters stronger and it reminded me of DNA Digivolving here! When you breed monsters too you get a + symbol on their stats and it increasing their level caps!
Good job on getting that Imperialdramon back then! Must've taken a lot of work! I never could manage it myself as a kid 😅.
@@CrystalPapa thanks man! Imperialdramon was worth the effort! I remember using him against my friend's Wargreymon and won!
You got Imperialdramon, too? I had the strategy guide book and worked my tail off getting Veemon then Flamdramon, Raidramon and finally his Mega.
Worth it. Beat the game with him.
I wish DW2 in way despite the grinding, but if I replay I’m using mods to speed it up next time.
@@viruschris3160 sure did man! Shame his fighter form isnt here but his dragon mode is more than enough for the main campaign!
Yeah same here, if I'll go back I'll get a speed up for the game as well as its slooooooooooooooooooow
Yeah, I don't know if I'll ever get over having a virtual pet that looks like a grown man in a silly costume, which will growl and shit on the floor if I don't escort it to a toilet in time.
Well, 20 years later we learned that Leomon just got Schwifty. It's not a monster, just ahead of the time.
Few things we can do to save this god awful game and make it a remake games (no, DW 1 no need because Re Digitize is like a remake for it):
+ make the 3v1 boss battles actually the kind of guy with 1k HP and dealing 100+ area damage to party or causing debuff or having passives. ESPECIALLY for Guardian, Chaos Lord and Crimson. Make them legit hard.
+ battles loadtime might be tied with game limitations and same for when the attack commences. Make those 5x faster to process and now any non-boss encounters will no longer be chore.
+ no BS map layout or at least give at least 1 solutions to open those electric fences that deals damage and blocks path, either from a relatively rare enemy drops or from ground/lesser chest. Oh and also allow the buggy's node animation to check for ANY traps in front of him, including bugs/spider traps.
+ removes level caps on Digimon, or if the game still intended to keep that crap on, at least make the DNA Digivolve meaningful by giving, says 7 or 10+ level cap rather than 4 or 6 only, and especially by making the resulting child a Rookie but with boosted EXP gain until it almost reach level/Digi level higher than the parents. That way, grind is not a much much more any problem.
+ one last thing to add, is to make every human/buggy encounters except Cecilia, WAY harder boss battles with escalating difficulties and diverse team (or thematic teams). Especially for the complete pushovers Bertran and the PC Leaders.
Hope these changes along with others that i might not add or forget, can make DW2 games a lot more better than before. 🫡
I agree with almost every point you make about this game. But I cannot help but absolutely love this unconventional masterpiece of a game!
It is my absolute favorite, I spent hours upon hours grinding through its random generated, but still predictable, corridors. DNA combining trying to give my favorite Digimon the coolest move sets. I have only beaten the game once during my teenage years but I couldn't help but start a new run again and again and again.... and again! Even to this day, I just wanna go back to it, driving my sentient digicar aimlessly in a dungeon looking for a cool Digimon to beat into *friendship* ♥
After 140 hrs and barely getting Metal Garurumon and Wargreymon 😅😂 this game is too savage...but I Love It! 🎉❤ great video!
Glad you enjoyed the video, Rey! :D
Digimon World 2 is my favorite Digimon game on the PS1. I remember spending hundereds of hours grinding away at the game when I was in middle school. I didn't know about the unobtainable digimon like Kimeramon tho since I didn't have internet back then.
I thin kthe biggest thing in comparison with the other game is just no one expected to be a JRPG, I think they never bringed it to europe, so I couldnt play it, but they bringed 3 and called it Digimon 2003 xD which I think is the better experimentation on this concept. This definetly screams Shin Megami Tensei inspired
Well if you got World 2003, you did get the definitive version of World 3, with all the cut content, so that's something nice at least! ☺️
@@CrystalPapa xD I did not know that and it was a game from my Childhood, Ive actually recently uploaded a guide on how to get Op in the 2003 version instead of the 3 version xD Maybe that might cause some issues if I dont know which ones are the exact changes that happened. But I guess if 2003 is the definitive edition then Ill say Ill stick with what Ive already uploaded
The reason why I can not play this game is the spinning animation when changing screens. OMG it makes me sick!! I really wanted to give it a try, because I was in a mood for level grinding monsters... But I just can't.
this game is my first ever game as a child. i remember play it, choose agumon, then during the dungeon my mother ask me to stop playing and dress me well. cuz that day, i need to register to kindergarten. i have love and hate feelings with this game. the love part is catching any wild digimon you meet, and the digivolve part is satsifying. the hate part is of course, the Lvl grind and repetition in dungeon. definitely digimon 1 is better, or digimon 3 if i want to play some rpg tactical game(even tho this game is really confusing for a child)
I think Blood Knights that aren't Damien and Crimson are just humans with face-concealing helmets, kinda like Stormtroopers. Faceless goons and cannon fodders, basically. If you look closely, Crimson wears similar helmet without concealing his face since he's a named character, unlike the nameless goons.
I grew up with Digimon and for some reason, Digimon World 2 was the one that stuck out to me. DW3 was fantastic but I always went back to 2. I feel it's pretty ignored and glossed over but it was such a unique idea.
I am happy the majority likes digimon world 2 more than digimon world 1.
DW2 has a special place in my heart. Me and my brother would play this every holiday as kids and never finish it because we never had a memory card, so we had to restart each run. Good times lol.
That being said this game is majorly flawed. It felt like it was trying to be a better Pokémon game with 3d graphics and attack animations, a complex story, a better incentive to "catch em all" as it became an incentive for DNA Digivolving, etc.... However it felt like it had good intention with not enough time really fine tune each element, making it very grindy and dragged out. The sound track is still timeless tho!
Thanks to your channel I unlocked a lot of childhood memories of playing Digimon world 1, 2 and 3! Third one was my favorite
Digimon World 2 was in development at the same time as Digimon World 1, but it looks like the success of the first game changed it's trajectory a bit to reference it.
First PS1 game I had as a kid and I loved it. Literally spent 300+ hours on one file. Looking back now though I realize like 275 of that was tedious grinding do to the games horrible leveling system.
Yeah that sounds about right 😅.
this game was so much worse on original hardware. that slowness in battles is the game having to load data off the disc and process it as it goes, so there'd be a 4-5 second load time before every attack. but it's near instant with an iso and a good computer.
Any chance we can get some digimon world 3
Definitely! There'll be plenty of World 3 content in the future! :D
DW3 was one of my favs back when I was a kid, replayed it recently and it has so much backtracking it's insane, this game really needed a fast travel method besides submarinemon and digmon
I remember when DW2 was teased on the old european PlayStation site... It was announced at the same tame as the first World.... And World 2 was never released in the PAL region, lol. Played it, but never completed it on a modded console.
The original world was a fairly popular title here, however, never understood why World 2 wasn't released in europe.
The japanese name of "Party Time" is straight up just "Poop".
I really enjoyed grinding in this game and aiming for a strong team with both strong aoe and st hits. Sadly I ended up finishing the game before having my ""perfect team" lmao.
While I agree that sometimes leveling is tedious, I used to listen to music or doing phone calls while farming
whats worse than boss fight is raremon with his counter attack that makes you confused
Good Videos, hits the nostalgia, but once i hit the heavy grinding and long dungeons i quit lol.
Yeah even for me, the nostalgia tends to go out of the window around the Piyotte quest part 🤧.
But I am glad you enjoyed the videos! :D
I feel like Digimon survive is the perfect example of how diffrent digimon can be from pokemon, cute for the most part... if you don't mess up
Digimon world 2 but the digirap is the only bgm
😱
I personally don't dislike the Digirap 😅. But I think multiple hours of it would make me go insane pretty quickly 😂.
Digimon was always more mature than Pokemon. How often did the anime have mature themes like leadership and the struggles that happened numerous times between Matt and Tai and how it affected the group as a whole. The theme of death and rebirth. I always saw the show as more mature. The digidestined having to make incredibly adult and mature decisions when they themselves are quite young. Yes Ash and the gang had team rocket and the like but the digiestined had to save the world from evil forces multiple times.
As for the Game i really enjoyed it and honestly if i could make a pitch for a digimon game i'd largely use Digimon World 2 to showcase it. Keep the 3 teams we have in as guard clubs or create new ones to give out missions and our starter digimon. You mention that the game enviorment pales in comparison to the first with 2 having a dungeon crawler vs 1's several locations. Games now a days like Pokemon Legends Arceus and Genshin Impacts open world sections could be a start for a Digimon game. Have the real File Island have Toy Town and all these special areas that are home to certain digimon that we can tame similar to how we get them in Digimon World 2.
Extend to online play with the tamer club serving as a GTS of sorts for trades and battles and perhaps even bring back the collseum and have tournaments that way. I enjoyed the battle system as well and it could use some tweaking. But i loved this game and for years have wanted to see something like it get to see the light of day again.
I hated the DNA digivolve to break level cap mechanics. So unnecessarily grindy.
There is this annoying when i got trap by a return bug that really pisses me off especially when im in a deeper floor and i got stumble to this return bug BS i dont have any choice but to retreat and start all over again damn
"I played it countless times as a kid but never completed it, even though the game didn't love me back."
im in this post and i dont like it
For me the nostalgia is almost entirely rooted in the soundtrack (Leomon's tutorial boss theme goes hard) and the cheesy Engrish voice clips on all of the moves.
I tried to get into this game. Unfortunately i really couldnt get into it, maybe i will try another time. I think it ought to get an updated version like digimon world: next order.
I'm sure others have mentioned Dragon Quest Monsters already but if you haven't tried it, you would definitely like it as that's actually what DW2 basically stole everything from.
6:00 Reminds me of mainline Shin Megami Tensei how this game functions. They expect you to fuse or in Digimons case, DNA Digievolve/Jogress two Digimons together to get a new one. Issue is somehow this game manages to take that concept and make it painful. At least in SMTs case, you can jump around on upgrading/downgrading based on materials fused. This game its always a downgrade which means more grind...yipee 😭
Rogue-like element for example would be nice to improve this game
*looks at title* lol same
Great video!
This title came from the heart, for sure 😂.
I am happy that you enjoyed the vid, Murabito! :D
@@CrystalPapa I personally prefer to call it "a piece of garbage, but it's my piece of garbage" myself 😂
Digimon World 2 and Yu-Gi-Oh! Forbidden Memories made me hate the number 999999
The battles have to take a long time, they gotta show off tha Grephics
I guess the Devs really wanted people to appreciate their work 😅.
It's not terrible. The only problem I have is I'd like more diversity among digimons to choose
this game was easy if you train too hard, there is a hard mode romhack, 14:15 you can get that chest by opening it from an angle, traps aint too bad if you just upgrade your tank to see where they are, dealing with traps is a different story.
I think I know what's the joke with the poop techs.
If you say Party Time with a British Accent (ignore the 'r') it sounds like Potty Time.
The game's great...as long as you play on an emulator with frame skip of 200-500% speed.
Is that M. Night Shyamalan?
😂😂
Thats the type of game a mod or hack rom could easily fix all the issues
Digimon world 2 is like that 1 big guilty pleasure for me.
I know its shit and has awful implementation of its ideas…
but I dunno man I find the DNA digivolution idea such a cool idea for the time with the skill transfer etc to make your perfect movesets and having stronger mons especially if you merge 2 digimon that have been merged many time already.
Its something I wish they’d try again and improve upon (exp boost for example for digimon that have digivolved to catch em up to where they were before.
Its biggest issue though its the speed of it all I agree. That is so unforgivable for this game and it makes you appreciate the speed up function of an emulator even more.
Lemme check the sales on scarlet and violet and the ratings on the latest season of the anime and I’m left back to you on that lmao. I’ve been getting back into digi world 1 but pokemon always gonna be #1 in the world and my heart and man the digimon fans really trying to convince themselves it has a leg up on Pokémon in any way… it doesn’t lmao, even to this day, but digimon world 1 is great.
Digimon was a tamagotchi spinoff marketed for boys
Digimon World 1 is still my favorite DW game of the PS1 days. Even with the newer one with improved mechanics I still go back to this classic.
Especially after learning all the ins and the outs that make the game incredible. The pre-rendered backgrounds and the way you move around in the world is best.
And it’s based off of the original V-Pet which is where most of its mechanics is from.
With Digimon World 2, even with the strategy guide it did take me time to beat the game. Despite the many headaches I had to go through it with I got my Veemon to Imperildramon and beat the game. Agumon was my starter.
The bugs sucked especially Return and Memory.
Even still I love this game. It was an odd game, but I wouldn’t mind a remastered with fixes to the speed of the game.
And never got the hidden Digi Beetle parts which you need to talk to certain NPCs 99 times to get each of the parts. So tedious.
I wouldn’t mind playing it again with a different team.
Funny script 😂. Sub earned
Glad to have you here! ^_^
Digimon 2 is my least fav game among all digimon
i know the game is grind tobe honest i liked it :)
We in the same boat, I guess 😇.
Why do you look like that
Anyways good vid, had fun, will sub
I totally agree, this game really is an ugly b-tard, but still one of my favs 💝😂 ever since 2011 I've played it all the way thru several times now
To be fair, the game at this point is 20+ years old, about 24 years and 2 months to be more specific which really goes to show how much of a 2 and a half decade gap the PS1 era of games are to the PS5 (or even the PS4).
Playstation 1 and 2 definitely had plenty of gems and i would say Digimon world 2 is just an example of dungeon-like play with 3D graphics before things were perfectly refined.
Plus how the Digimon brand wanted to focus more on trying different things which i felt was one of its strong suites since they came out with alot of stuff that may of not been good per-say, but likely were amongst some of the flops to lead to other things refining those genres in other ways by building off whatever it failed at.
Now a days, games have so much power put behind them so they would need to rebuild plenty of PS1 and 2 era games from scratch to actually be able to interact with the capabilities later gaming hardware can put out to result in a massive speed up. Even showing how many conviences many games get as a norm these days were not exactly present in those more arcadic times...Such as how some more recent titles can get flipped off if they have a large `open world` like game and they decide NOT to include a fast travel feature.
Either way, if we had more dungeon crawlers made in a similar motif as digimon world 2, i would likely find them interesting, such as some other PS2 and PSP titles like Guided Fate Paradox, Zettai hero project, the pokemon mystery dungeon series, because those were always a fun examples of what were the percursors to what were rogue-likes in general, before they went 100% in full swing with meta progression and reset on entry progression based elements.
But seriously, at how he pointed at the `slow animations` for attacks, this is more of a example of the attack being qued up and then firing it off, just like how pokemon did it back in the day, which you can really notice the problem even in more recent pokemon games still to this day, since just like certain older yugioh games back on the game boy advance era, they were made to likely do a bunch of checks which resultedi n sluggish parts.
Example: Digimon world 2 had the ability todo things like counter attacks against other enemy actions aka actions that could interrupt your own, so on a Playstation 1 level of clunky hardware, it would take time to process those kinds of things and do something like cancel the animation that was first going to go off and instead play the other one which is just a fine example of how much of a difference designing a game back then was compared to now, especially with what kind of tools and what not are at people`s fingertips where they can likely one man dev team imitations of older games with relative ease now.
It's not the game we wanted, but the one we needed 😂.
telling digimon story like this is not fair, you have ignored all the motives digimon is as it is, the way you put it seems like a pokemon rip off, but doing that is not knowing or at least forgetting that digimon comes from tamagochi
what do you do for work?
Holdup wasnt jessie 16?
2:39 😂😂😂