Hornby's Most Beautiful Coaches? | GWR Clerestory | Unboxing & Review
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A review of Hornby's fantastic looking GWR clerestory coaches!
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When you apply the '3 foot rule' as they go past on your layout any slight imperfections are rarely noticeable. These are great looking coaches. Cheers Greg
Very true Greg - though the price still burns a little bit ;)
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@@SamsTrains I have bought four altogether, off e-bay and yes, I agree that they are overpriced but the Edwardian style saves their bacon, lol.
Sam: “I’ve never reviewed coaches before! :O”
Disneyland coaches: “are we a joke to you?”
haha yeah - those weren't like proper coaches though ;D
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Disneyland coaches are just open aired coaches
Don't forget the diseased caterpillar coach!
Well i mean, Disney in itself is a joke after all
@@jurassicsmackdown6359 Yes, but they have partially redeemed themselves for releasing hamilton on Disney Plus on July 3rd!
“Hornby just shut up and take my money!”
Great review😂😂
haha!! xD
Love these reviews! :D - One minor thing (as a fan of cathedral architecture) 'clerestory' is usually a 2-syllable word "clere-story" (pronounced "clear-stree"). As you rightly pointed out, the word comes from the high windows above side isles in churches, the glass level or 'clear story', a design feature echoed in these exquisite coaches.
Sorry about that Robin! Many thanks for the info! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)
THE BEAUTY! This is AMAZING!!!! I NEED TO BUY THESE!
Thank you! I can highly recommend it! :D
Hey Sam. The brake coach was used for the basis of a character called Old Slow Coach. She was a coach that Thomas and Percy saved from scrap. I'm surprised that she isn't on the little western with Duck and Oliver.
Thanks for the info Nathan - I've had lots of comments about that! :O
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They were first made in 1981. I have 3 different rakes of them
Duly noted Stephen - very old then - but still great looking! :D
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I bought them in a set with a Sovereign loco around ten years ago.
Always loved these cars. They also made them with a simplified non box detail GWR livery and as a Midland Railway coach as well. All the detail is in the decoration rather than the moulding, unlike the original Tri-ang shortie which had raised mouldings but no pick-out painting. Made for the Dean Single. I run up to 6 with a Saint.
The new Hornby Teaks are really nice and have more features. They have nem pockets, sprung buffers and more seperately fitted detail. I got them for Christmas with a model of Bittern and they look so good together.
Ooh sounds good - I'd love to try some of those one day! :D
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GWR, Beautiful, and looks nice, I got to recommend my friend to buy this
Ooh awesome - hope they enjoy them! :D
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Dates from 1982 Sam, although yours are obviously more recent versions . They were originally the most expensive coaches in Hornbys range back then . Now they’ve been overtaken by more modern models like the teak LNER ones . I think the panelling is printed on rather than being part of the moulding which it really should be .They do have the correct bogies though and correct under frame details. There are a couple of versions of these so watch out if buying more and you want it to match . Some have less intricate panelling and are basically just cream with less panelling around the windows . Not sure if the roof is always white . I have a feeling some might be grey.
Wow! That old?! Thanks very much for all the info Russell!
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Sam :)
My first hornby train set was a black jinty and three red clerestory coaches back in 75 76 ish
Ooh interesting - thanks for sharing Mick! :D
Some of the best details I've seen on a RTR model coach Sam, thanks for your invaluable review, I'm sure these will be very popular with many modelers....Bob
Thanks vert much Bob - really glad you liked these! :D
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Sam :)
I believe you've reviewed the "Disneyland" coaches before, so you actually HAVE reviewed coaches haha :P
Yes you're absolutely right - totally forgot about those!
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Hi Wong village I like your Thomas customs
I got a Disney ad before the vid :o
@@aidenray6286 thank you
I was so excited when I saw the thumnail of the video. Finally I can extend my Great Western Troop Train pack. Back when I first bought it I was told that the coaches were exclusive to that pack. And I know that these aren't completely identical. But they are good enough! Edit: Having looked closely at mine (and purchased quite a few of these you've reviewed) the yellow is a bit more faded on these, they have no white printed white words on the black "footplate" I guess you could call it. And the roofs on these are whiter than the ones in the WW1 troop train pack which are greyer. Over all the printing quality is a bit lower on these compared to the ones from the pack. Also the bogies are more free to elevate to go up hills on the ones from the pack. And one last detail I've noticed. On these coaches you've reviewed there is a line printed on the corridor side of the coach on the windows, which I've been told is a hand rail. Which is absent on the WW1 pack. Which instead has "Smoking" printed on the middle two windows on the corridor side of the corridor coaches. Just a little comparison for anyone who wants to extend their pack and wants a bit of side-by-side comparison ;)
Also having finished the video, Sam I can't believe you never mentioned the limited edition WWI troop train pack in this review! I though it would be obvious to pair them with that pack. Anyway amazing review as always! I'm definitely going to pick some of these up for myself.
Ahh sorry to hear that - yeah I bet they'd still look good!! :D
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Nice video, nice coaches😀 You’ve got such a soothing voice😁
Thank you! That's lovely to hear! :D
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Sam :)
So after watching this they are really just the 1980's versions, but with a much better paint job and wheels. Thank you for the information, your reviews are so useful and sensible.
Many thanks for the kind words - yes that seems to be absolutely right!
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The ocean wagons will always be considered the most attractive and majestic piece of rolling stock one can own
Spooperfoot5 Agreed
BULLMAN!!!!!!!!!!
Ooh of course - you're right there!! ;D
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I'm quite impressed indeed. Sam, in the U.S., we pay MORE than that for Passenger Coaches WITHOUT even basic Interior!! 😲 $40-60 USD each, and you look inside and just see the floor weight!! 😖 Interiors have to be separately purchased and fitted, bringing the total cost to near $100 USD EACH!!
With yours, I would simply disassemble, do some interior painting, fit some People in the Seats, and you will have stunning models!
Carmine ✈🚂🚙
Thanks Carmine - yeah you're right - I've seen some of the prices actually! :O
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They look really nice, but I think my Hornby lighted Pullmans are more beautiful. You should get some of those Sam.
Yes you could be right - I haven't ever tried those!
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@@SamsTrains I have to agree the lighted Pullman coaches are amazing.
@@stevelomas4119 agreed
I've always had a soft spot for anything GWR. Brunel was a childhood hero of mine - it blew my mind, aged nine or so, that here was someone who didn't consider anything to be impossible. He seems incredibly modern in his outlook - the Crossrail tunnelling today would probably have pleased him greatly, I'm sure. I do love the GWR, though, it was a railway apart, with some quirky design features, like their singular 'Pagoda' huts. And yes, their Clerestory coaches were the best and most beautiful of all.
Yeah me too Brian - Brunel certainly was incredible! :D
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Hey, look, it's Old Slow Coach from Thomas the Tank Engine.
It really does look like him!! :O
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@@SamsTrains Her. Old Slow Coach is a girl.
She's not a boy.
I'm glad you're finally reviewing coaches that aren't part of a train pack!
I'm kinda surprised this isn't a Hornby RailRoad coach
Yeah me too - I really enjoyed this, but you are right!
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I'm getting bachman James and might get those coaches for a test run
Ooh nice - these would look cool with James! :D
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I'm making a bachman eagle James brother with bach
man james can u give me a shout out if u want it would mean a lot to me
I didn't know that you haven't reviewed any passenger coaches yet on this channel. You review locomotives (obviously), wagons, and snow plows, but for some reason you haven't reviewed a single passenger coach on this channel. I'm glad you're getting around to do this idea since passenger coaches are in the rolling stock category and that means you'll have a mix between wagons and coaches for you to review for your rolling stock ranking list of this year! You should get some more coaches soon to review, it'll be nice if your rolling stock ranking list would have a variety of different types of rolling stock! Keep up the good work! :D
It turns out I did those disneyland ones, but that's about it! :D
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Those passenger coaches remind me of a Thomas and Friends character old slow coach can you please
unbox the holmby old slow Coach
Donald and Douglas the twin-engine s same
Hornby's Old Slow Coach is a scarce model which doesn't come up on eBay very often and when one does, you can expect to pay on average between £45-£60 for one in mint, boxed condition, and there's no way on earth that Sam would be happy to pay that price for one. I paid £52.00 for mine, making her my most expensive piece of rolling stock to date.
haha yeah me too - I'd love to try one, but I don't expect I'll find one for a decent price :(
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Just got the hornby j15 loco , mine in br late edition, fitted digital chip and run for few minutes , fabulous model, performance just crazy , slow speed control and overall just perfect , not run in , saw it cheaper on rails of Sheffield after so would recommend buying it there but don’t feel ripped off , the price I paid 76 pound is a gift , last in stock went up to 100 + , rosheff 67 pounds stealing it . Thanks again for the review , weight detail and performance wow so far , bits to add on if you wish . Keep safe and putting out the videos
Ahh fantastic - yes those are amazing, I'm absolutely stunned by mine! :D
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Thank you much improvement from that... deisised catapiller
haha I agree!! ;D
Steve Lomas diseased caterpillar from the underground Ernie set
very nice sam . I agree with you that they may actually hornbys best coachs yet. Keep up the great work. Jack
Thanks Jack - they really are lovely! :D
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I think those coaches are old slow coach from Thomas and friends base
Yes you're right! :D
Wasn’t old slow coach based on the earlier Triang/Hornby clerestory that was shorter?
A category of coaches you can review, it is the LMS coaches by Dapol. They are sold below GBP 20 because they are an old Airfix design sold as is for budget-constrained modellers, it would be interesting for many people to have your advice on them.
By the way, if those clerestory coaches would have been sold GBP 10 cheaper, that would have change lots of things... For me, the car bumpers like couplers is a no-go, especially at GBP 35.
Great idea Oliver - I might look into those, thanks!! :D
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Hey, do you now a method that i can get Hornby trains/coaches to Argentina???
I think Hatton's do ship to your country - link in the description! :D
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Even though these coaches are stunning, the actual model is around 40 years old now! I have some older Hornby Railways clerestories from the 80's, still gorgeous but lower levels of detail and with plastic wheels (that are very easy to swap for better metal wheels by the way). I have 8 with four being GWR and four being LMS. Both liveries look absolutely great, but like I said, lower detailing levels but with some really good lettering and lining. If you still want a clerestory coach but don't want to spend an obscene amount on coaches and are willing to sacrifice some detailing then I would suggest looking at the older ones because the plastic wheels still roll freely.
Of course it's the most beautiful coach, clestory coaches are the best
I'd probably agree - they're so lovely! :D
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Ricardo what are you doing here pal :D
@@SamsTrains this is my friend Ricardo
I purchased 3 Hornby Railroad coaches from Hattons,2 were £10 each and 1 was £12 guess which coach had metal wheels ;) Yeah they look nice those coaches,i think they should be £25 from new though,but if people keep paying high prices for model railway items,the price will always be high i guess.Barrie Davis is the man for a nice collection of coaches etc :) Stay happy and well Sam.
Oh wow Michael - that sounds incredibly good value! That's true actually about the prices!
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It's pronounced "clear-storey" not "cle-res-tory".
Thank you!! :D
Hi Sam, I have picked up about a dozen of these in both Great Western and LMS liveries. Hornby has been producing them since the 80’so you are very right about them being basic, but they are so very beautiful. The livery on my older coaches is somewhat simpler than the new ones, so they have brought them up to date somewhat. And yes, I think in this case “Looks are everything.” I am not at all disappointed that I have purchased them. Cheers.
That sounds excellent John, and thanks for the info - yes I had a feeling they were rather old!
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We needed something lovely after yesterday's nightmare! Much appreciated!
haha thanks Kenneth - no problem! ;D
With detailed interiors those coaches would be wonderful. They do look very elegant behind the 'Single' though. Very nice, thank you Sam.
Yes that's true actually - I'd like to see some interiors! Glad you liked the looks of them anyway!
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They look exactly like mine. Last year, I bought two composites and a brake for just over £30. I don't know what year Hornby released them into the range, but judging by the boxes, I'd say 1980's. Both coaches and boxes are as factory fresh as they were the day they left the factory in Margate.
Ahh fantastic - you got a great deal there then!! Mine are a new release, but they were released in the 80s I'm told!
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Sam, thanks for your reply about my query on the recent Hornby Southern Maunsell coaches. These were the recent expensive high detailed tooling. Although you reminded me that you just unboxed them, rather than a review, I would suggest they would make a good subject for a full coach review. Like this GWR Clerestory review.
You will not need to purchase them and wait for delivery, so a bonus there.
I think many will be impressed with the quality and detail of the Maunsell coaches. Especially those that are not familiar with the current state of the art Hornby coaches.
Regards John
Yes you are right John - I would like to do a full review on those some time! :D
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I purchased these coaches from Kernow Model centre ,Really stunning coaches ,very very beautiful coaches .Your video convinced me to buy these coaches.
Ahh fantastic - yes they're amazing arean't they?!?! :D
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Really great 👍👍👍
Back in 2005 hornby use a Clerestory coach as the basis for their Thomas & Friends "Old Slow Coach," a character introduced in season 5 of the show
Agree completely regarding the couplers. It'd be so easy to modify the molds. Here in USA I've replaced my couplers with Kadees, just my preference. Actually, I make hybrids, only replacing one end so I can couple it to anything I run. For NEM's, it's a pull and push replacement. For Hornby older rolling stock, it's quite a bit of surgery!
Thanks Robert - it really would be a cheap thing to do wouldn't it? No idea why they don't update them, given the prices they charge!
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Hi Sam, I am a big GWR fan and I am glad you did get round to reviewing some clerestory coaches. They are indeed very beautiful. I also have a set of clerestory coaches with the Lord of the Isles set. These however are a little more basic. I also picked up another set of clerestories with another Dean Single, these were also very beautiful, though different again. I can't wait to get my layout built and see these in action. As usual, another good review made even better by the choice of subject. Thank you.
Thanks very much Kevin, that's very good to hear! Just love these - can't wait to get more soon! Hope you can get yours going soon too! :D
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They do look good behind the Single. Value for money would get an extra star from me. As an LNWR collector, my coaches come as kits that cost more than this already. Then they need weeks of making. I then try to paint them, or spend well over £100 a go to have them pro painted!
The best RTR I have are the three Bachmann SECR Birdcage coaches in Dark Lake. They are very well made, well detailed and look fantastic behind my kit built Wainwright C Class in SECR Grey.
Thanks Billy - that's fair enough, glad you liked them!! :D
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Re the crests - the one in middle is the Great Western Company Crest, the one on the left is that of the City of London making the right that of Bristol (both of which are within the GWR crest). I believe this was known as "twin cities" decoration. Owing to their slightly out of loading gauge size, I'd suggest the perfect partner would be an outside framed passenger express - City of Truro would be my choice with 4 or 5 of these
Duly noted Robin, many thanks for the info! :D
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Hi Sam,
Yes had some of these on the railway for quite a few months and I agree with what you say but I am sure you would agree scores do not always tell the full story as when an item such as these is before us we just must put it on the tracks and watch it going round and be glad we have them. I think you should be doing reviews of coaches as they are a big part of the hobby and as they get more and more expensive we need a subjective view such as you give to educate us, I have just bought 6 L.N.E.R teak ones that cost £45 pounds or so but they are I think worth the money for the detailing and as with this coach how they look but I bought them at R.O.S. but at Hattons would have been £30 more!!! Keep safe and well.
Cheers Robert.
Yes that's true Robert, these are very enjoyable to use! You stay well too!! :D
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Very elegant and beautiful! I don’t have these, but I have two N-scale GWR autocoaches in the same livery. I run them with my pannier tank often
Thanks mate! Ooh nice - those do sound lovely! :D
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Sam, I have an earlier 2004 set R4198 & R4199, but the Clerestoies date back to the Hornby catalogue to 1971. My two coaches compared to yours there isn't any real difference in them. The detail as you say is basic, but the livery does make up for that in looks as they trundle around a layout. Yes, Sam you should do more coaching stock and wagon vids in the future. One set to review is the Kernow K1004 Push-Pull Gate 1914 LSWR in BR (SR) Green livery set. They are expensive £130 RRP, but eBay sellers do offer them for around £80-90 for a set. Another set of coaches is the Bachmann 39-000T 4x Coach Pack LNER Highland MK2s with TSO Clan Mackenzie 5166, TSO Capercailzie 5212, SO Corriemoillie 5230, BSO Balmacara 9385. There is also the Kernow only Bachmann 39-005 £98 RRP Highlander Coach Pack with an MK2A TSO Clan Fraser 5154 and a Class 101 DTCL (Driving Trailer Composite Lavatory) 6300 Hebridean that would go well with the others too. So check them out as well and hopefully see you review them.
Duly noted John - wow, I didn't know they were quite that old!! :O
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It's subjective. Following your review I purchased the same two coaches from Colletts Models for £28.50 each and quite frankly they really are lovely. I don't unfortunately own an engine old enough to do them justice, but I still think they look great being pulled by my GNR N2 (green). Another review of yours that got a purchase for Hornby. Glad I got them. Thanks.
Glad to hear that Simon - you're right, they may be basic, but they just look superb - hope you enjoy!! :D
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These do look nice. 3 points though, 1: They'd definiteley look good in a rake of 4 behind either the single or City of Truro or something. 2: The couplings look very chunky compared to the decorations and they do look screwed on. Maybe some shorter slimline couplers would look better plus you'd get closer coupling too. Lastly you can travel in something very similar at Didcot on a steam day. I do also believe there's a Hawksworth and a few Collett coaches to be sampled there too. Well worth a visit. I do think Hornby's more recent GWR output as well as the Stanier Midland coaches have been amazing. Might be worth a comparison.
Thanks DJ! Yes a few more would be even better - and you're right about the couplings for sure!
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It's nice to see a review of some coaches. It would be great to see more coaches reviewed in the future; Hornby's more recent toolings like their Maunsell and Stanier coaches are absolutely beautiful models with an amazing amount of detail.
Thanks very much mate, I'll try to do more soon! :D
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Hornby have produced the same moulding of these coaches in the Railroad Range which I bought new for £19 each. (R3914) They are even more basic with no interiors, and are turned out with a plain cream and chocolate colour scheme, but with out the window frames picked out in chocolate nor the gold lining or coat of arms and names. I think they may also be shorter in length. I think If I'd have seen the main range coaches I'd have been sorely tempted to pay the extra £13 each because, as you say, they are lovely.
Oh wow... so the decoration somehow doubles the price?! Ahh there are shorter ones though, which are different!
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@@SamsTrains I'm not shore, they are definitely shorter than more modern coaches. Still look fairly nice behind a tank engine though.
Just received the same pair of coaches today as a thank you for helping to remove a large train set layout from a house where the owner had died. He had worked for the BBC and was a technical expert for creating the effects on some of the James Bond films. Anyway, these coaches will be perfect for my NRM Locomotion GWR City of Truro.
Really honest review of an ordinary set of expensive coaches. I do not know whether you have had a chance to review "Simplon Orient Express Train Passenger car set" of 3 coaches manufactured by Trix (HO gauge). I had ordered them in 2019 and I am about to receive them now in 2020. They cost me US$ 399.95 (£ 292.45) + freight to Dubai (where I stay). Would like to see your review if you could get a chance to do so.
Thanks very much - they sound fantastic, I'll have to look out for some of those! :D
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These coaches continued in service until the early 1950s. After that they were painted grey and used as mess and tool vans, so were still to be seen in the late 1950s. It was very common even in early BR days to include one in a train of otherwise modern vehicles, even in the best express trains, as can be seen from old photographs. It would nearly always be the front coach and was presumably added if passenger loads were unexpectedly high.
Thanks a lot Henry for the info - much appreciated! :D
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I HAD to buy the passenger/parcel coach for my pre-grouping branch line. Agree with your criticisms and agree that it's too handsome to not have on my little layout.
haha glad to hear that! They really are lovely looking though! :D
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The coaches are the clincher and its great to see them pootling around your railway.It made for a series of interesting Vista's
Thanks Matthew - yeah that's true, they do look amazing! :D
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An amazing videos Sam. An absolutely fantastic set of coaches. They have nice detail on the rolling stock. Can not wait to see more videos like. Hope you enjoy your new set of amazing GWR coaches. Really enjoyed seeing the different locomotive and rolling stock that were running as well. Take care of yourself
Thanks a lot Luke, really glad you liked them! I'm having loads of fun with them! :D
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Video idea? Why not talk about how Hornby could retail trains/coaches as a budget range using all tooling from previous years or Lima/dapol/triang etc. They could sell locos like a 33 for £25-35 as it probably wouldn’t cost them that much to make if they have the moulds
They could also retail wagons at £5-10 and coaches at £10-15
Also the video of reviewing coaches was Amazing!
Great idea - except they do that already, just with much higher prices than those ;)
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Those carriages with Achilles look absolutely exquisite!
Thanks Benjamin, glad you thought so! :D
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Those lovely coaches are very addictive, I now have 6 coaches and 1 brake/passenger. Just ordered another brake/passenger so I will run two rakes. U will not be disappointed. The coaches are quite well close coupled and look great when raked up and running. As you can see I rate them as 10 out of 10 !
Thanks Selwyn, I agree they really are! Wow I bet your rake looks amazing! :D
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I'm in the US and modelling a German railway, primarily using Brawa, Marklin and Fleishmann coaches - I would love if they were in in that $25-$35 price range that the Hornby coaches are!
Thanks Craig - me too, though no doubt those are more detailed than these! ;D
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Heart vs head with these; clearstory coaches are beautiful but the model is ancient and expensive. The drop lights should be maroon/Indian red too, that would really set the livery off. With some painting and detail work they could be exceptional models but the base price is way too high for that. Good review, keep em coming!
I agree with you there Callum - absolutely :(
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Good review, older tooling yes, livery application good, iirs a pity they didnt upgrade them with flushglazing as fsr as the couplings go U can drill out the rivets & use the Bachmann 36-025 mini loop short screw on couplings as a replacement!
Thanks a lot Greg - yes it's a shame they couldn't have made upgrades :(
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I have these coaches in a hornby limited edition Lord of the Isles set and they look beautiful. I think hornby have really updated these old coaches very well as you have to look twice to realise they are the old models but slightly updated.
Ooh wow I bet that does look amazing! That's true - they do look good with the modern decoration! :D
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@@SamsTrains it is a nice set as it was the Hornby re release of the Lord of the Isles set triang originally brought out in the 1960's
I agree wholeheartedly with Sam; these were and still are beautiful vehicles, and, I believe highly sought after. I made the mistake of selling mine some years ago, and having got the chance to buy some recently, (at £5.00 each!) pounced - instantly.
The finish is simply lovely. When they first came out, back in 1981, a now defunct magazine criticised them for having painted paneling. That was a bit unfair, because the same magazine approved of PC Models carriages (then a very fine specialist series of kits) which had their paneling done the self same way, by silk screen printing!
If the models have a fault it's the rather narrow back-to-back on the wheels - the rtr standards used then were still rather coarse. I use finer scale Peco points, so the wheels foul the check rails. Simple solution - pop the Hornby wheels out and replace with Peco coach wheels - 'Mansell' wooden hubs if possible.
They were recently re-run as part of a supposedly World War 1 troop train set, with a 'Star' class loco. Slight snag - the GWR used maroon for coaches from 1912 onwards! However, if you can find one of these sets being broken up, its worth buying just for the coaches.
Many thanks John, glad to hear that - they do still look lovely after all these years! Thanks for all the info,
Cheers,
Sam :)
Hi Sam
It seems these coaches were released by Hornby earlier as R4469 & R4670. I have both these two coaches and I have tried to check my versions to yours on screen. They look very very similar in detail (mine - grey tops not white). I cannot find any reference online for clerestory sequence releases...….total agreement by the way...magnificent looking coaches !
Thanks for this Martin - yeah I'm not sure about that either, I'd be interested to know!
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Clerestory coaches can be built with rooftop windows or air vents, maybe both. We have these in the states, but most are metal construction with air vent clerestory roofs, and mostly classified as heavyweight coaches. They were done away with lightweight streamlined coaches in the Second World War. But anyway, for the level of detail, these should have been classified as railroad range.
Duly noted, many thanks for filling me in! :D
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Great review Sam! I have a Bachmann City Of Truro and may get those coaches because they would look so good together
Thanks Daniel - ooh yes they'd look lovely with Truro! :O
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By the 1930s you would be quite likely to fine one behind a Hall or a Castle, as the front coach of a train of modern vehicles. The GWR seemed to put them on at busy times.
Plus old slow coach.
I think these go back to the 1980s ( and there are earlier Triang Hornby clerestory coaches which are shorter and more basic). They've been available in two or three livery variants, and the paint job has always been their selling point. Looks like the printing is getting finer though.
Yes you're right Steve - others have been saying the same!!
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These are very long in the tooth, Sam. Clerestories are lovely of course, but we are still awaiting a top-notch release. From what I can see in the vid, the finish looks no better than what was available 20+ years ago. Improvements include metal wheels and an interior finished in brown - these used to be grey tat, but perhaps even that upgrade happened a long time back. What I couldn't quite make out was whether these are now flush glazed. They used to have really nasty plastic inserts that we had to replace with fiddly cut-out third-party inserts - SE finecast, if I recall - and wooden coloured hand-rails by the windows; I see these are still white. These used to be about £12.00 new at a swapmeet.
Thanks Tim - yes you're absolutely right - the price is just a bit silly for what they are!
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@@SamsTrains Yes - they should be in the railroad range, for sure. Like you, I've always liked them though - very characterful and can be resprayed in Maroon for an approximation to LMS/Midland stock, or in dark blue for a LNER engineer's train - both successful home projects from many years back. But to have these and/or GWR Toplights done to modern standards would be great - perhaps Oxford Rail could be encouraged to take a look...
wow they are beautiful coaches id love some of them : ) great vid sam
Thanks a lot mate! :D
Are you planning to some day get more Thomas related rolling stock besides Annie, Clarabel & the Trucks? I highly recommend most of them, especially the Express Coaches from Hornby or Bachmann.
Hi Sam I have four of these coaches and I think they're superb. My bogies are different though, great review as per usual. Regards Terry.
Great to hear that Terry - interesting that the bogies should be different!! :O
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I’m getting Hornby Thomas and get those passenger cars, 1 brake coach and 7 Third Class Corridors to recreate Day Out With Thomas, along with 2 of the Bachmann Thomas with Analog speed activated sounds, and a Porter model to recreate the Strasburg Railroad Thomas The Tank Engine along with a front knuckle coupler for the DOWT recreation
Ooh that would be cool - great idea!! :D
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Really cool coaches. Are you going to continue the cheap train set series. It is fun.
Also you could try a Lego train as well. The ''cheap set is 120 bucks'' and the more ''expensive'' is around 200 bucks. (idk it in pounds) The cheaper one is based on an euro-star train and the more expensive one is just a freight train. If you are interested in this idea but want a train that is based on something real i recommend the Mearsk train(FREIGHT) (rare expensive not motorized and doesn't comes whit track(motorizing it is an extra 100 bucks an the an ovel track is around 60 bucks new 40 used)) or you could buy the horizon express (based on tgv but it is not licensed) (rare doesn't comes whit track and electronics ) or if you want a steam engine you could try the winter train (track is included but electronics aren't ) or the emerald night (no track no electronics)
This is just an idea that you could try if you fancy it.
Thank you! Yes more cheap sets coming soon, haha! Yeah a lego train would be great to try - leave it with me! :D
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It's actually appropriate you tested these coaches with the Dean Single as they're essentially the same age. It's my understanding that these GWR clerestory coaches originated with the Triang Lord of the Isles, so yes, they are almost 60 years old. Hornby may have updated the decoration, but at heart they are very old.
Ahh that's great to hear - I didn't actually know that, haha!
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Yes they are beautiful, hope they produce an updated version of this without quality mess ups🙏. The nem sockets, detailed but strong bogies, undersides, ducket, brakepipes, & coach lights.
Apart from this, I personally wld love a Caledonian livery or perhaps the crimson & cream livery on these coaches. (Though may be fictional) but wld look beautiful...
Oh & please start reviewing your coach collections.
How about starting form the Triang Caledonian & their slight variations...
Thanks Nix - yes that would be awesome to see, fingers crossed! :D
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Maybe to solve the problem about where to take away points for not having NEM couplings you could add a featurs category for that kind of thing
Yeah you're right - I'll think about that! :D
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I am a real sucker for the Clerestory coaches. I don't have a single one in my collection because budget, but they're just so gosh-darn beautiful that if I could I'd make them the only coaches on my railway.
Me too mate - that's fair enough, they are lovely!! :D
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They look like brilliant little coaches, sorry I didn’t watch the video on release I’ve had so much school work to do (sometimes 8 hours a day) I haven’t had time for anything else
Loved the video
-Ollie
That's okay Ollie - hope it all goes well for you! :D
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Good to see you are still alive after your last review
haha me too - it was touch and go!
The most beautiful model coaches I have seen is the Bachman ones that come with the railway children pack. I k ow they’re wrong but I love them! In real life the film used a SE&CR 60ft birdcages and an ex-LNER inspection saloon for the old gentleman’s coach
Ooh yes you're right, those are indeed lovely! :D
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They are absolutely gorgeous! And great review btw! I'm preordering the Clerestory coaches from Hornby.
Thanks very much Preston - hope you enjoy them if you decide to get some!! :D
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They look like Old Slow Coach from a episode in TTTE
Yeah they really do! :D
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Those coaches are similar to those supplied with the Anglian Train set, although they do not appear to be the same tooling. It would be interesting to compare them.
Ahh yes you're right - they are quite similar, but longer I think!
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Have you looked at either the current Hornby teak Gresley coaches or the Bachmann Birdcages? They are really beautiful coaches, highly detailed and up to modern standards
Yes I've seen those, don't own any though - they look amazing!!
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Hi Sam, Yes they do look the part, I do think a rake of 4 would look even better, Full mark's from me. All the best Brian 🤗
Thanks Brian - yes you're right, a few more would look amazing! :D
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These coaches do look really nice, but my favorites remain the pullman coaches with working table lamps. Very expensive but the tiny lights make me want to get smaller by a factor of 76 and board these lovely coaches. I would not mind to change to the clerestory ones for the last bit of the journey, though.
Thanks very much! Ahh yes I've heard those are amazing - I must try some!
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Superb. I wouldn’t mind a couple of these myself! Very very pretty! Hope you’re well? I’m playing catch up with your videos at the moment due to work inconveniently getting in the way of me watching your vids as regularly as I’d like!
Thanks Chris - they really are so lovely! Hope you're well too - and hope you enjoy the videos!! :D
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I always do mate, and yes I’m well, thanks. Glad you are too! Take it easy mate. 😉
GWR owned old slow coach?! Wow! In all seriousness though, this was a great review!
haha I guess so! So glad you enjoyed it!! :D
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I think these will be part of my next project after I finish with my HST project
Ahh fantastic - all the best with that!! :D
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I got a rake of four collet corridor coaches for £100. They are beautiful and I got them in a sale. They are normally quite pricey at £40-50 each though
Ahh wow that's not too bad at all - hope you enjoy them! :D
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I will agree with you and the ratings that despite how incredible they look, as a reviewer there is no room for bias or favouritism and must call it down the middle. However the rating just can't take away the fact these are such beautiful coaches, probably even more so in real life
Thanks a lot Sideways - yes indeed, I had to be objective!
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Would you ever consider reviewing fan submissions customs? A few good-quality photos and video, offering tips and ideas to improve future customizations... Something in that vein?
I don't think I would mate - it would be great, but I wouldn't want to be responsible for other people's models! I could definitely try some customs myself some day, at viewer's request??
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Wow, you can make a Thomas and friends in real life 3! The GWR Clerestory standard coach is the basis of old slow coach. You also have Merlin’s basis, Toby’s basis, Flying Scotsman’s basis, Mallards basis, Duchess’s basis, and so many more!
haha that's true actually - great idea!! ;D
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Sam'sTrains, I know! New video Ideas for quarantine. And since you popular videos are Thomas related, it would make total sense!
More coach reviews please! Would be interesting to here what you think of Dapol coaches
I'll do my best Bob! Yes that would be interesting! :D
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I would be interested to see what your thoughts are on the Hornby Railroad coaches and maybe how they compare to their main range counterparts.
Sure! I'd like to try some of those! :D
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Mere minutes after I review my new Bachmann Standard 5MT, Sam Uploads! I wonder if these beautiful Coaches will beat the score of 8.5 I gave the 5MT...
Edit: Not Even Close!
haha fantastic! And nope, not quite, haha! ;D
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