Review: abxylute Streaming Handheld ($199)
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- Опубликовано: 15 июл 2024
- The new abxylute handheld is focused on game streaming, and in this review we're also going to see how it performs when it comes to retro game emulation, too.
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Timestamps:
00:00 introduction
01:47 tech specs
03:02 controls and ergonomics
13:33 software experience
15:59 screen testing
17:11 streaming and Android games
19:49 emulation testing
25:04 summary (likes and dislikes)
27:09 conclusion
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Thumbs up for admitting to “not creating devices”, subtle, mate, very subtle.
Drama in the retro community?
@@Heldermaior taki udon basically made a video saying he created the retroid 3/3+
@@Jimmys_TheBestCop Jealousy 😂
Wait what was the point of that joke?
@@Jimmys_TheBestCop not basically, he straight up said it. The balls on that one...
I feel like these companies would benefit greatly by hiring people like yourself take your feedback and fix things like dpads etc before shipping there final product.
You'd think so, but before you know it they release a 50 minute video saying they created the whole damn thing
@@tazerturtle6572 yeah I didn’t even watch that whole video. Taki definitely has a complex.
$ Munny $
@@tazerturtle6572 the Kanye West of emulation. He blocked me for this comment lol
With taki creating the odin and rp3+ , the standards are pretty high.
Your reviews are simply on another level compare to other RUclipsrs. So knowledgeable.
I love that more and more of these are showing up.
I love that when you review devices of the same type, you'll compare them. (So we get a mini Logitech G Cloud review here too) It's so helpful!
Love the "i do not create devices"!!!!
"After all I don't create devices" 😆🤣
I can't decide if this was supposed to be a quip against someone else or not 🤔
@@vailathi Even if its completely unintentional I can't help but laugh.
@@vailathi you know it was.
Hi Russ! Very cool video. And weirdly this one coming in at $250/ $200 makes me feel even better about my Logitech Cloud (which isn't perfect either, but I have really liked). All around though, Yay competition! And hopefully, the abxylute's final production unit can improve on a few little things to be a great choice for a lot of folks.
Wow! So fast! Nice review btw
Just want to voice that having a streaming device when you're already the owner of a nice gaming PC is a game changer. I've been using the G Cloud almost every day for 3 months now and lemme tell you what, playing indies I bought 5 years ago curled up in a cozy chair is as good as Switch users make it out to be! Portable, I'm on my RG35XX. At home, it's all about the G Cloud.
thats really cool! but how come you didn't buy as steamdeck especially when the price is so similar
@@80xdplays88 That's a good question! So it ultimately came down to the G Cloud having a bright, colorful 1080p 16:9 screen, triple the battery life and half the weight. Also I can now play my Steam, GOG, Epic, Game Pass and standalone library anywhere in my apartment... with RayTracing! AND it's got amazing Android emulator support. Everything up to Dreamcast/PSP plays perfectly, Vita and 3DS are getting there AND I can still use Dolphin/PCSX2/RPCS3 streaming on my PC. Not to mention I love modding all the games I play and doing it on a Windows PC streamed to a handheld makes things way easier than figuring out if mods are compatible with the Linux build of a game. Round this all out with the Daijisho front end and boy are things nice.
So yea, going with the G Cloud was and is still the best option for me. Zero regrets not going with the Steam Deck if only because I already have a beefy gaming rig.
@@SheeshFr ah I see most of that stuff can be done with the steam deck (besides the battery and screen) Im guessing you just didnt want to go through all the hassle of setting everything up twice and would rather just have everything in one location am I right?
Heya! Are u still enjoying your G Cloud? For in-apartment gaming, I was wondering would u choose this over a Steam Link, TV and controller setup instead?
How is it that we're almost four decades into the existence of the directional pad and we still can't get it consistently right?!
Is that rhetorical?
The answer is pretty damn obvious. People have different preferences. I for one would take the Odin d pad over most Anbernic d pads any day of the week. The majority don’t agree. I would imagine, knowing there’s a whole range of different preferences, that they just make dpad they enjoy themselves.
Not to mention that Sony has gotten it right since the PS1. Seriously, I don't understand why every Dpad isn't as perfect as the PlayStation controller Dpad. (Not even a PS fanboy, it's just the truth)
I'm pretty sure Nintendo copyrighted their specific design on d-pads, so other companies have to do something different.
Although, unless Sony has done the same, I don't see why companies don't just copy the PlayStation one.
@@lankyGigantic Nintendo did have the patent…but it expired in 2004 or so.
I really hope you get a retail product to review if the retail version has some fixed controls. On discrod they posted a video that you can change the zones for the analog sticks. But I am mostly interested in the dpad.
I was kinda worried about this device coming in at 200 bucks after buying a G Cloud for 250 a couple months ago, but G Cloud still seems better in every way. Hard to believe at 200 it even struggles at PSP when the G Cloud does it at 3x resolution with ease.
Hi. Where did you get the G Cloud for $250?
@EvilRyosuke I didn't get one at that price either, but that was the Black Friday deal.
@@EvilRyosuke I got it last month from logitech directly for $250.
@@jbc6980 with the logitech spring promo code
was waiting for this one...
I was hyped for this but I’m happy I jumped the gun and got an Odin pro instead. For the price tho can’t complain.
....how was i not subscribed here?! great break down (as usual), love your setup too!
Really useful vid.
Personally for $199 I rather get AYN Odin Lite even though it smaller 5.98" screen but far better spec
AYN Odin Pro model 6gb / 8gb ram / 128 or 256 gb internal storage...worth buying...All those 4gb ram /64gb internal storage Handheld devices are done for...due to performance and update will eat away that small storage capacity...and those apps too... Longer-term wise...🧐🤫🤔
@@Mister_Phafanapolis Yeah but who's John Galt?
@@Mister_Phafanapolis I saw that too on their website...
I am already using a Samsung Evo 512gb micro-Sd for my game files and and Emulators... On my Samsung Tab S7 11" + DS4 Controller... because I like to use some useful drawing apps besides playing some of my retro games...up to PS2 with AetherSX2 app...which those weaker Android CPU can't run smoothly...
@@gregorybolivar5712 Odin Lite also come with 6GB/128GB for extra few bucks
@@azraeihalim But the CPU isn't an Snapdragon...it is Media Tech brand...
G Cloud is so underrated. That Screen and battery are a 10 out 10. Shame its not in the UK yet!
Ya at $200 it would be well worth it just like the steam deck. Actually the steam deck would probably be like selling the g cloud for $150 but idk.
Yeah, it is beyond me why they don't release it in Europe, yet.
Underrated? It's overpriced and under-powered. It's a device produced by a company that saw it's market close, and shelved it; only to be sold off and launched for a quick money grab. It's large screen only accentuates how badly it performs, as it cant even do 6th gen gaming at native. If it had a SD865, then $300-350 would be ok.
The only way it's "underrated" is that most people stayed away from it at a $350 cost. It's still not worth the $300 it's at now. This price, $200, is all it's worth.
@@wizzel22 no one is buying it in the US. it's overpriced with a 3 year old chipset.
@@ShootEmUpGood Specs are not the end all be all. At the end of the day, the G Cloud is the most enjoyable device to use for it's intended use case. I'll say this, I own a Steam deck, Retroid Pocket 3, and Odin Pro and I've logged by far (it's not close) the most hours on the G Cloud than any other device.
I might buy one for my son I'm curious about the streaming performance but he hit it on the nose no compromise in screen and comfort is my main reason for buying the G Cloud
I wonder if Taki "created" this, too....
14:01 Almost spat out my coke 🤣🤣🤣
damn I saw the video was posted 23 minutes ago so I scrolled down, excited to be one of the first but I see I have good company here :)
Very nice, Russ! 💗💗I had very similar experiences, I am curious to see if they can address the issues in the production unit.
Edit: Finished the video and that's very funny because I did the same thing. It just made me pick up my G Cloud more and appreciate gaming on it.
Cheers Russ, great review as usual. While it's not the focus of the device I'd want solid PSP and Dreamcast performance for that money, the d-pad is a concern as it stands too.
Nice man
I had a pre-order reservation but after your review I don't think I'll follow through. I really prioritize comfort + a good screen and it seems this only delivers on the screen. The Steam Deck was comfortable but a bit heavy and a bit lackluster screen if all you are doing is streaming. Might be time to finally pull the trigger on a G Cloud.
The design is spot on.
I've been waiting for this review. I have the Odin Pro, but I was curious about this one. How would it compare. I've also seen the RG405M. Between the abxylute and the RG405M, I think I'll be spending on the RG405M.
As someone else has already said. If the G Cloud was available in UK, I'd look more seriously at that option.
Since this is a review of a streaming device I thought I can ask about it here. Is there a better option for streaming Xbox Series S/X than the Xbox app? For me it always feels like the resolution of the streaming is 480p and it is honestly pretty blurry to see on the 1080p display of my Odin.
Yes, for remote play check out XBPlay, it’s a paid app but very good.
@@RetroGameCorps ooh, thanks for the tip! It claims that it will let us play Backwards Compatible (360) games too, which I was missing on the official app. I'll try it tonight.
@@RetroGameCorps Thanks a lot, just bought the app and it works like a charm! It is exactly what I was looking for.
@@RetroGameCorps XBXPlay is even better than XBPlay. XBXPlay is an app that came out less than 2 months ago, by the same dev that made PSPlay. It's phenomenal and blows both xbPlay and the official Xbox app out of the water.
@@RetroGameCorps Hey bought the app (Retroid Pocket 3+) and it gives me this message when trying to connect to the console (no help online I'm afraid): "Cannot connect to Xbox Live to Stream. Please try again. Details: Timeout waiting for exchange: /api/config/sdp"
Any suggestions? Or should I just report this? I'm a computer programmer and this error message isn't helping me. Well aside from it just refusing to connect to the stream API.
'i dont create devices'
I gotta say the light on the buttons really looks nice
I have never seen a Gcloud for less than 299. If the Gcloud sells for 250 new, this device is unnecessary. That being said, I have both. I just got the Abxylute so I am still testing, but the final version is very comfortable, more so than the gcloud for me. The Gcloud is a bit bulkier and heavier when playing and I have normal-sized hands. The Abxylute software booted up a lot faster for me (about 28 seconds), so maybe that was tweaked on the retail release. The streaming play is flawless on the Abxylute, pretty much the same as on the Gcloud. I am also not having a problem making easy diagonals and I love the hall sensor triggers as well. I'll give it another few days and I am probably going to sell my Gcloud to a friend for 200 as I actually like the more compact feel of the Abxylute and I don't need two almost identical streaming handhelds. I also prefer Android 12 to Android 11 out of the box.
A lot of reviews are looking at it like a retro player its main focus is streaming like ps5, steam link, or Xbox game pass. I bought the 230 version because i wanted it for steam link and ps5 so i can play games in more rooms in my house and even on the front porch
My kingdom for something with the form factor and screen of the Logitech, but with the power of the Razer Edge. One day.
I had the same dpad issue with the Steam Deck which got dramatically better as I "broke it in". I wonder if this will be the same nightmare diagonals that soften into a decent dpad over time.
13:59 - I see what you did there 😂
I've noticed this on a few handhelds so far: The d-pad is nearly on top of the screen glass. They are WAY to close and it makes the device look really strange. Proper spacing on the inputs from the screen is really important as well. Anbernic has never done this, always has great spacing from the edge of the device, as well as the screen. Other companies should take notice, I think.
Personally, it's the opposite. Controllers always inset the lower controls towards the middle for better ergonomics. After half an hour, I got thumb cramps with the RP3 sticks.
Great video. Any tutorial for setting up retro arch or other for some emulation? Thanks
Sure, here is my RetroArch guide: ruclips.net/video/icGYGriNkF4/видео.html
They should have put the same chip thats in the RP3. What a kick in the balls for such a decent layout.
The only thing that would hold me back from wanting to purchase this ABXYLUTE handheld is the D-Pad diagonal issue. I was hoping this would be fixed from that same D-Pad issue with the Logitech G Cloud.
Hi retro gamer I like these retro systems and I’m looking at mid range like this to buy for retro games. My question is I have a rog ally and I seen retro beast 1tb micro card. Will it be better I get that card and use it with my rog ally then buying a retro system?
$199 is a better deal but I'm still not sold on streaming only. Nice that it has an SD card slot to possibly load apps and games
He literally shows the google play store within the first minute
I do like the in house streaming if one already has a PC, makes my steamdeck battery last longer
@@BananaFarm626 the google play store has nothing to do with the comment...
yep. streaming is one of the biggest let-downs in gaming history.
so much hype, very big disappointment.
Local streaming is terrific. Think of these devices as wireless screen/controller combos.
I wish the Logitech G cloud was $150-$200. I’d own one
Maybe this will help drive the cost down
Great video, as always
Wow, the high end systems were so bad. Even the RG503 can pull off PSP, Dreamcast and N64.
This makes me appreciate my Odin and RP3+ even more.
Yeah but this isn't made for emulation like the RG503 is. This is purely for cloud streaming. Emulation is just a small bonus because it's android
@@OHCAM5 Yeah, but it should be the other way round ..
It's a tradeoff between screen and chipset.
@@abxylute Yes, but unfortunately most people think "Just put a better SOC in it." without taking cost into the analysis. When you tell them "Sure, but it will now cost you $600." they then cry about how much it costs.
These, I find, are usually the same people who say "The steam deck is overpriced!" even after being told that Valve is selling them at a loss.
Some people you just have to point at the corner and say "Please, go over there." to.
@@wizzel22 The other way round would make it more expensive. The reason the others are cheaper is because they are smaller and have at most 720p screens.
So do any of the family members ever test out the retro handhelds themselves after the vids?
Sure, I usually have my wife test any retro handheld to see if she thinks it's a good fit for Dr. Mario (NES), and when we go on trips I let my kids pick one device to take with them. It's always interesting to see what they pick -- they often like the RG552 for its big screen.
14:00 is that aimed at Taki? :D
The Kanye West of emulation
@@obvious_giraffe8386 The Chuck Norris of retro gaming.
Watched this on my Logitech. ❤
Wanted to bring up that devices built for streaming are even less viable in countries with poor wifi speeds. In Australia where i am, the median speeds are around 60mbps due to poor infrastructure. I personally get about 50 and i've never been to a friend's home with any better than 90mbps. I've had streaming work in some situations but it's definitely far less reliable here and i imagine in countries like India or Greece with even poorer median speeds, streaming might see mixed results.
My country median 28Mbps but in reality even in city I only get around 15-20Mbps high speed data. My data gonna drain like river if using it for streaming meanwhile big data has cap speed 6-12Mbps
I dont see any reason to buy this when you have odin lite and odin pro out there. I know joysticks on them are sitting quite low and the size is on the smaller side, but if you swap it out with gulikit hall sticks and do a little mod with the joystick height, the joysticks feel like 1:1 to switch.
First you have have to be able to buy the Odin models, currently out of stock. And everyone is comparing their suspicious "sale" (but out of stock price). For me in the UK the Abxylute works out at about £160-170 but the Odin is £250 when its in stock. Yup the Odin would be my preferred option but the price and availability mean it rules itself out.... plus AYN! I won't give AYN another penny until they deliver my Loki mini, which might come 2023? 🤷♂Even they don't seem to know.
@@handheldgaming4life Odin lite is in stock on their website for 199$ since January, i ordered mine and it only took 1 month to delivered to my address. I didnt order loki, but i have followed news about it, yeah right now is kinda a mess with loki, just like Odin last year. I think ayn is making good devices, the only problem is just that their company lacks of management.
wait... I though the name of the channel was ''Retro Game Corps''. But is "Retro Game Core"????
Thanks for the video, I always watch all your videos even if the video is not something is interesting. KTGW
corps is pronounced core
Dang, the poor Dpad diagonals on the G Cloud was one of the major reasons I returned it. might have to cancel my pledge on this one
My appreciation for showcasing the best GBC game ever: Dragon Quest/Warrior Monsters. ;)
He probably says it in the vid but at that price you might as well get a switch lite or save up a bit more and get the 64gb steam deck.
The steam deck is just to bulky that's why people stopped buying it
Plus the android streaming devices you can load moonlight with 0 work arounds or hacks and stream from local computer. That's where these streaming devices shine
Or if you want to emulate more spend 40 dollars less and pick up an rp3+.
@@mackw919 does bulk really matter that much though? from my perspective most people rarely actually use their handhelds outside of their house and when they do its just in their car during their commute. also where do you see that people have stopped buying steam decks?
There are dozens of us who don't game on PCs and as a result have no pre existing Steam accounts and/or a desire to learn and invest (money and time) in yet another OS and ecosystem. I've already made that investment in money and time with Android. I have a ton of paid games, apps, emulators, and a pretty good knowledge of how to make them work for me. I don't want a Deck at any price beyond like $10 because there's no point to it, for me.
Not being able to do diagonals is my only real complaint with the steam deck.
Hi! I saw you use de Daijisho front-end but...what did you use for the different retro-consoles? I'm new to your channel, so please indulge me :D
...ok I just noticed the emulators' name up there!
I was so close to purchasing the Abxylute, it looked like the perfect device for my needs. But they lost a customer thanks to mirroring the same mistakes as Logitech with the analogue inputs and flaky d-pad. Ended up getting the Steam Deck instead in the Valve sale, hoping it lives up to it's reputation :)
its*
Well how you liking your steam deck playboi?
Well worth it. Even though I use it 90% of the time just to stream
The price THO, you add $100 and can get the Steam Deck, so conflicting, these kind of devices for $150 or $130 then probably yes.
I think you have a math problem there lol. Steam deck even on sale right now is 360 so your talking 160 cheaper and then it’s a different handheld for different cases
@@maxwell2288pspgo i thought I was $300 lol
@@maxwell2288pspgo Steam deck is back at full price no? Spring sale ended 23rd.
@@maxwell2288pspgo it's lighter and smaller and it just works no need to carry around a bulky device
I haven't a clue what the logistics are to source the components for these devices but if it's meant to be a streaming device than it's just an extension of a platform you already have and more than likely has more power right, I feel these devices need to be a lot cheaper especially when you can get an AYN Odin Lite for the same price. Perhaps I'm just out of touch with these things and don't understand why they're priced the way they are but I don't know. I just rather see them target the 150 price tag when you start to get to the 200's and more there are many different devices that all suit either the same performance or better 😕
Is this worth getting for playing games on the handheld console? Are downloading games complicated to install?
Looks a lot like the Lenovo legion handheld that went unreleased.
If u had to choose between this one or Odin Lite which one would u pick?
Did updates were pushed to make this better or still the same as before?
If I was looking for device to stream and remote play my xbox and ps5 what would you recommend? I was thinking about the rogue ally but maybe I am just over spending. Looking for recommendations.
I should say I have a backbone I am just looking for something with a bigger screen and something that streams well.
The best part of the G Cloud is you can actually buy it. So many of these devices you have to pay now and wait months.
How did you get that theme for retroarch?
how are the buttons?? i need the quietest buttons available on whatever device
Any system going forward should be able to play up to Dreamcast and Saturn full speed minimum .
Right now I can get gcloud used for the same price as this, I'm really not sure which I should get!
If it's in good condition then get the G Cloud. My thoughts are that it hasn't been out long enough to have gotten that much use on it even if it was owned by someone who liked it, and anyone selling one now probably didn't use it that much to begin with. You'll never regret opting for a lot more power and better ergonomics - the same logic as buying a slightly used Lincoln for the price of a basic new Ford.
Sounds like the rp3+ is a more powerful , better option albeit with a smaller screen?
I am enjoying my RP+ very much. I did some mods for it (hall stick analogs and dome buttons and added the official grips) and its even better. PSP games run at 2 to 3x resolution no problem. N64 no problem, Saturn I can run at 2x resolution fine, PS1 at 3x fine. Even plays some Gamecube games ok.
Screen and speakers are everything when it comes to streaming. It's a streaming device not an emulation device. Big difference.
@@Jimmys_TheBestCop This abxylute is hot garbage if it can't emulate more. You can stream on other devices with more power.
@@Aliyah_666 not with a 7 inch 1080 screen with 2 front firing speakers. It's not for emulation. If you want emulation look else where. Honestly this is more for PC/console gamers to game from couch. I have both gaming laptop and gaming desktop but I still want to lay day or chill in couch and game on a 1080 handheld that is sub $200
Yeah
What are you using to remote play your retro games?
I've simply been looking for a streaming handheld device to play PS4/5 on a
7" or bigger screen, with best in class wifi connection to have zero lag. Even on the Steam Deck when I tested there would be occasional lag thru Chiaki. Not looking to use my phone for this, plus it's only 5" for the screen. This might be the device for me then since the Logitech G Cloud is needlessly expensive. Does anyone think there is a better device out there for the price (either now or coming soon) based on the needs I've described? Thanks for any feedback!
Let us know if you find anything. I am also looking...
I am 7 months late, but Playstation just came out with the Playstation Portal at $200. I just picked up a Logitech G Cloud, and so far, I really like how light and comfortable it is.
I bought the Steam Deck several months ago, and I tried using it, but it was too heavy for the way I enjoy using my Nintendo Switch in handheld mode. So I returned it.
so is this better than the rg405m in terms of specs?
Great Content...
However... For Android base Device only...
AYN Odin Pro model 6gb / 8gb ram / 128 or 256 gb internal storage...worth buying...All those 4gb ram /64gb internal storage Handheld devices are done for...due to performance and update will eat away that small storage capacity...and those apps too... Longer-term wise...🧐🤫🤔
Either the revision for this device improves controls and Ergonomics... or the G-cloud needs hall sticks and a SERIOUS price reduction. If the G-Cloud was under $250... I might have bought one already. At this point though I would rather get an RG405M for the pocket form factor because if the device is as big as the G-Cloud, the ABXY, the RP3+ or the switch... it will need a case. If it needs a case? I would rather have a steam deck.
Do the palms of your hands get numb while holding it?
I have the Odin, whats the deal with these joysticks on both, they are too sensitive and too small range of motion for aiming and shooters!
Damn, that analog stick input with the preference for up/down left/right is utterly unacceptable. As is the dpad with no diagonals.
the g cloud is overpriced but you won't regret buying it. this costs less but it can only stream good
Yep I’m a G Cloud owner and I have this same sentiment. Too expensive but I love the device
can you please change your background music? It has hypnotic vibe that whenever I hear it, I want to grab my credit card and buy a handheld gadget.
Did you get your gpd win 4 yet? Can you share/show it
@Carl Gunderson of a loaner, he then on that same video purchased one, I’m asking about his that he bought not the general video that 10 other reviewers did..
Whats the point to having this when i have a galaxy z fokd 5 and a bluetooth controller that can run steam and xbox on my phone?
Abxylute or Retroid Pocket Flip. Which one you like more?
Hi everyone, does anybody know if it’s possible to save full games such as fifa to be played offline? For example during a flight? Thank you!
im gonna get another g cloud eventually im having too much fun with the steam deck
Thanks for this video, I think odin Lite is better than this and more powerful .
Will I be able to join or create Xbox party’s and talk to friends? Or invoice game chat?
Hey did you know that the Logitech G Cloud now has video out? Can you revisit it pleeease? Thank you very heaps :)
what is the emulator being used on this?
It's sad to see the PS2 and Gamcube chug. :(
se pude jugar juegos de plantones como cod mobil y warzone mobil ??
So close, yet so far. Ergonomics are everything.
Will It Play PS2 Or Nintendo GameCube
Will It Play On The TV If It Does How?
Whats the keyboard in the background at 1:55
Nuphy Air75
@@RyeAlvaro Thank you! 👍
It looks kinda cool but if ergo is bad and retro gaming is pretty limited then it's just not the device for me.
Where Can I Buy This At⁉️
I really don't understand how someone can make a bad directional button in this day and age, this is not quantum physics
Bro can you do a "how to emulate" on the g-cloud please?
If you own a G-Cloud and are figuring how to set it up; it's Android so any how-to-emulate tutorials for an Android phone will work for it too.
Better than the razr thing. I like the idea of detachable controls, but whoever chose that screen ratio at razr should be fired. also all the people that OK'd that decision all the way to the top and through production, fire them all.