4:54 I seem to find out that truly confronting people with their narcissistic behaviors even when I talk about my toxic or you know retaliation or you know, am I a narcissist? Let's listen to this together. You know I have a best friend and my husband and a grandmother-in-law who's a narcissist and a f****** flying monkey. And it's so funny because my middle son has finally realized you know how f***** up her behavior has been. With her first son. I wasn't allowed to talk about psychiatric treatments depression. You know ADHD. I mean if he my husband did not want me mentioning because he thought I would put it in our son's head. Wow he's had some issues. And it's gone to therapy on his own. And it's changing him. His eyes are opening and then I have a 13-year-old daughter who is just naturally into psychiatric mental disorders I guess. And Jesus at 10 years old. She's writing thesises on ADHD. Autism. Begging to go to counseling. I'm like cool. I've been in and out since I was five. I also had a mother who was always trying to make me out to be the sick one and getting sympathy for it. What's that called again? I'm going to have to look it up s*** Eminem made a song about it anyway.
They're self inflicted with blindness. They've hit rock bottom, but, seemingly, they're unaware(? 🤔🤨) In fact, they've hit rock bottom & continue to dig downward.
It's extremely RARE for narcissists to be as transparent as you. Most narcissists that has been in therapy will hide their diagnosis, and use learned things from therapy to build a stronger mask, while harming others. My MIL did this.
Yay! Happy Birthday! So your narc injured themselves and set you free instead of ruining your day as intended. Sweet! I went solid no contact 3 days before Christmas, can't say it was like opening a gift a few days later tho. I was one walking talking screaming hyper-reacting, hypervigilant nerve. First reaction was; this is it! Finally gave me everything I needed to stop trying, stop being abused and used and all that good stuff we all are aware of here. It's done and damn, I feel good, back to living again. Then I started to feel it all. But for that moment I felt happy and free. That's my goal, get to open that Christmas gift and enjoy it every day for the rest of my life.
girl i remember praying he would break up with me on my birthday! i was scared of how he would react if i did it. i eventually did. im glad you made it out without having to deal with it yourself!
Mine was going to therapy on zoom.He loved it. One session he wasn’t happy, I asked him what was different, his female therapist left, and they gave him a man😆. This man didn’t fall for his BS, she was stroking his ego. The man want him to come in, and wasn’t giving him the meds that he was selling. Oh well🤣😂. Therapist need to specialize in Narcs because she had no clue.🤦🏽♀️
Flying monkeys, emeshed mothers and sisters, as well as temporary supply, keep them from hitting bottom. But make no mistake, they are miserable. Nothing is ever enough. 😢
I remember his sister telling me not to hurt her brother bc his ex cheated on him for his friend. That was bullshyt. The lie he told his sis. The texts I found were him telling her how sorry he was and wanted another chance. I was so hurt I took a screenshot and sent it to his sis and asked, "Now what about me??"
Some have siblings or parents that play a toxic role in their lives that never allow them to get to a rock-bottom, by feeding and supplying the narcissism when others have had enough of it.
They often turn to God/religion when they are in trouble. Church is a place for them to unburden themselves, and when they're OK, you don't see them there.
💯!!! They bounce back the same day if they have to….short version of my story….my narcissistic ex got kicked out for cheating. Mind you, he pursued me while in another woman’s home and driving her car. (while he was at the gym) I changed the locks and had been on the phone for an hour with her. She immediately took him back and he posted the next DAY on FB…”great to be back with family and surrounded by love. You have to know when to change your environment” she became “exalted” …and she reposted it like she’d won! Congratulations to them both. I removed myself and meant it with my chest. Don’t turn red flags 🚩 pink It hurt to leave still in love but I’d rather hurt once.
To be in a relationship with a narcissist is like running in to a wall. And it doesn't matter how much you get hurt, they don't care and just want you to run into the wall again.
I think one of my narcs went to therapy and then tried to trauma dump on family years later. I called her out on it and she went right back to her old habits. Blaming everybody for her behavior. I knew she was full of it when she wouldn't take accountability. Smh!
Lee, you are telling the truth.... people will only do what you allow them to do.. I had to learn the hard way... never again... whether they hit rock-bottom or not... let em go🤷🏾♀️
100% agree. No rock bottom . My dad is 71 and still a piece of crap. Half of us ( the ones he abused) have gone no contact.. his other kids, are still being hurt by him… these people who don’t want to change are gonna come back as a slug on Salt lick on a hot Texas day. 😂
He's in rehab right now. And you'd figure he would be at rock bottom. . NOPE! He's at a 5 star lux rehab in the mts in California!!! Getting massages and acupuncture!! You'd think he would be figuring out his life. NOPE! He's trying to figure out a way home. . Only wanted to talk to me the other day to make sure I told his mom to send him money. I have washed my hands of the situation. I finally saw that he will never get better nor will he try to. . He's hasn't asked for me in days so clearly he has new supply.
🎉🎊 Freedom! At the same time, it's incredibly frustrating. And hurtful. If he'd just work on himself, things would be great. Doesn't he want you back? Narcissists are truly delusional. They can't recognize a good thing when they see it. It's not your fault. Mine weaponized people he met at rehab. I don't miss him.
You are 1000000% percent right, and it's worse when their family has money and they have a TON of enablers. It looks like they have a big trampoline under them...😳😳😳
How true, when Karma shows up. You don't get to pick from the menu. You get served what you deserve. Netflix "I Just Killed My Dad". This man manipulated, verbally, mentally and physically abused everyone he ever met. Manipulated the court system between Texas and Louisiana to basically kidnap his son. And hired someone to kill her. Telling Anthony (his son) and I that she was deceased. Why would you go through all that to uneducate, verbally, mentally and violently physically abuse him for a decade.The only explanation I can come up with is Narcissistic spite !!!! I his wife, just underwent a full mouth extraction and denture placement from his fists and aquatic physical therapy from being hit in the back with a baseball bat repeatedly. When I left he called his employer and told them he needed 2 weeks off. I was in the hospital having an emergency hhistorectomy.Told me his son was home schooled. Child never stepped foot in a classroom a day in his life. Burt told me he was in the Marines. He would tell me about vivid combat missions. Never served a day in his life. 4 wives all beaten. He told me I was his 2nd. I found an Adult Freind Finder profile professing he was bisexual in his email. 6 credit cards hidden in his wallet $80,000.00 in unknown credit card debt. 16K in unpaid taxes. 5 felonies. I cannot separate fact from fiction. None of this was discovered until I turned the ventilator off. It's crazy when I filed a 51-page restraining order and truths started coming out about what was going on behind closed doors. His fictional world started to emplode on him. After all he did to his family. I once heard "If your lucky Karma will let you sit back and watch" definitely happened on my case. Threw broken glass in the shower at my feet, threw all the food in the refrigerator all over the kitchen floor. I experienced black eye with Burt. The brain separates from the body and they have no recollection of what they did to you. I was missing 4 teeth, the side of my face was purple and he opened my dresser drawer and peed all over my clothes. Had no memory, packing for a vacation. I had to explain to him what happened to my jacket.... scary. He was a psychopathical, Sociopathic, bisexual, Malignant Narcissist. Malignant meaning no empathy for mortality. His last words to me were he was going to cut me into little pieces. And you have no idea what I am capable of little girl. And I didn't until his lies were exposed after his passing. This is an actual documentary interviewing us. I didn't want no over glorified and dramatic actors. This situation was bad inside the home. I wanted to let people who have never lived in it. Better understand why women don't leave. I gave my biological son to my 1st ex husband of 20 years. And stayed in the home with Anthony as long as I could physically take it. I had no legality to Anthony. And Burt had already accused me of having relations with his son. 20 attempts to serve a restraining order. He stands in the doorway laughing at law enforcement. They cannot make him open the door. Because he has rights. REALLY !!! look at my face, I have bloody lips, missing teeth and I can't walk. 7 calls by me and family members. All explaining that Burt was unstable and drinking every night. His 17 year old son was in there with multiple fire arms. Since I had to leave him there. I was afraid of I put in writing all the physical abuse I witnessed. It would make it worse for Anthony. I put as many RED FLAGS as I could. You would have thought someone between the intake, recording, processing, judge signing. And the multiple law officers who had their hands on the restraining order would have thought to run a background check.... and see all the felonies !!! Never should have been multiple fire arms in the home. Unstable alcoholic l, felonies and fire arms might have given them the authority to go in. I have a patio video where the office asks my stepson if he is ok. What else is he supposed to say with his abuser standing right there. Ya know, maybe another room, bring him in. Where is abuser is not standing there looking at him. What a toxic, mentally and physically exhausting experience. But I saved my 17 year old stepson from life in prison. God bless all the people reading this who have been to hell and back like me. And lived to tell about it. If my documentary reaches 1 persons mond out there. I've succeeded. You were in love. See it for what it is not what it was. You are NOT in love, they have you horrifically trauma bonded. Trauma bond is insidious. I was trauma bonded from an Urn. Make a list of everything abusive they did to you. When you feel weak or ruminate. Take that list out and read it. It will help get you mentally back on track. We worked our butts off. He was a project Controls Engineer for chemical plant industry. I worked in Home Healthcare Administration as a Human Resources Manager. We had a 375K home, swimming pool and two brand new cars. He would sit outside and say to me. "Look at what we have built together" My thought was "But you beat, ridicule, verbally, physically and mentally abuse everyone in the home". He ran through the hotel room one night during an abusive episode screaming "I'm God like" It was just insane and unforgivable the mess he left me to clean up. GOD BLESS 🙏🙏
My narc has learned to survive and thrive in his “rock bottom” for years….he doesn’t even see . It’s actually sad. My main focus is our daughter we share. He has all the flying monkeys and definitely uses them to help boost his ego back up 😂
Hi Lee I absolutely agree with the narcissist not hitting rock bottom. My ex doesn't think he's a narcissist. When I tried to tell him about his double standards ie he can converse with cheat with talk to other women and he would get mad when I started talking to other men . I never cheated but he looked at my phone this was before I started talking to a male friend and swore he saw text messages. He didn't want me looking through his but felt like he could look at mine. I have looked through his and saw text messages between him and a woman he cheated with . He would stay out all night not answer the ph . If I went around the corner to my gf house or anywhere beside appointments, I was cheating .
My narcissist ex grandmother died years ago and he became homeless. He moved in with his mother after his Gma died she put him out ,he came to me cheated alot and he's currently homeless again. He was last living with a friend of ours . He was trying to comeback to me and I said hell naw and asked him where's the other women you were with ? He's so arrogant once he get on his feet he act cocky
Sometimes people leaving, is a blessing in disguise for a narcissist. It's an opportunity to see things in a different way than they would normally.. sometimes that's all that's needed is that wake up call
I know a narcissist who ended up in a major scandal that hit the regional news. He not only went to prison, but was given a harsher sentence than usual. It unbelievably devastated his wife and family. They had no one to blame. It humbled the both of them, and I hoped that it would change them. But now, 10 years later, he and his wife are back to being (85-90%) the same old narcissits that they were before this incident happened. 😒
The ex narc went from living in our nice apt to sleeping in his car. He still didn’t think he was doing bad, just cuz he was making pennies doing doordash…he still thgt he was doing ok. There is no rock bottom in his eyes
Bdaddy went from apt to my house to hotel his mom's....now to hotel again in a spand of 6 years. Just told me someone told him he can live in a tent on a lot space if he wanted. Wth..... you want to live like this....I'm like this is really none of my business. It's just crazy but they don't feel like they reached rock bottom. He said he's not going to a shelter either. It's always going to be somewhere they can go. Even when they go to jail.😂
Congratulations lee🎉! I’m proud of you…we all have flaws,but the fact that you actually put in work!is commendable!to help others.Also thanks for sharing your growth,and journey!💪
My husband does not have a rock bottom. I left him and took the kids and he said he had nothing left but didn't take the time to think about how we got there. He ended up finding a supply with his ex and made me look like a monster. I eventually gave him another chance and he STILL does not want to get help or better himself and continued to blame me for "ruining his life" and "put this family in a ditch😮". I finally told him to leave my ditch😅 and he is moving out and is adamant that it's me that's the problem.
My husband does not have a rock bottom. He will take himself all the way down and keep going. He has overdosed 100s of times. Been in 3 comas. He cannot get past the mental block that says "it's me"
I be wishing my ex narcissist get a package he can't get rid of because of the mean shihh he's done to me and my kids . He used to get mad at me when I didn't want to sleep with him because he's pulled up in another broads car she texted me from his ph to tell me they were together or another one text me to describe his body to me and everytime I've called the police to get him our of my house they Said they can't tell him to leave my house. His name wasn't on anything.
Lee, You Just Might Damn Be The Best Narc Out There, At Least You Hadda Struggle To Reach The Level You’re At Now. You Stayed Down And Took Everything That Came W/ That So Salute
I just ordered your book, Lee, and I plan to make copies to distribute. That is how many people that I know that can use your message. Thanks for all you are doing, Lee.
My ex narc somehow got 3 people at the same time to do her schoolwork at her job. Her parents hold her hand no matter what she does, her baby daddy just accepts and plays along with her bullshit and In the past I was just thinking what the fuck!? It’s crazy.
Mine blames me for making him drink. Apparently, I hung the oven mitts up the wrong way and that triggered his alleged OCD, so then he'd have to drink himself to sleep. He also claims to be afraid of me. 🙄 But the thing is, if I was so horrible to live with, surely he'd have been doing better after I left and not drank himself even drunker. I gave him a Bible years ago while we were still on good terms. I accept no further responsibility for his condition or situation, be it good or bad. I am afraid, however, that if he hits rock bottom, that frees him up to hunt me down.
Im.glad for you sir. My children and I arw 2yrs free from my ex-husband and i do not believe he will ever hit rock bottom. And thats not my problem any longer, its now his new wifes problem.
Hi Lee, more great advice. Yes I've seen some that would rather have their defiance... than hit rock bottom and work on themselves. They ultimately rob themselves. If I may make a suggestion, we are concentrating on what you're saying, and then suddenly you inserted that little clip, that broke up what you're saying, maybe put that extra little insert at the end, so that your video can flow like they normally do. So many other channels insert clips in the middle of a video and its so off putting. And your usual clip at the end is really great 👍🏻 Thanks Lee for your amazing work that you do, in helping so many people 👍🏻✅
They often have many supplies - so called ,,friends". Narcissists don´t have deep connections so it is easy to change people for them. If someone says NO to them - they just go to other people. (They are good actors and talkers - so in fact no problem for them. They play a great game and are perfect in using people). Sadly that is just it. And why changing the game - when it functions well.
They are folks who could fall in a pile of "manure" and smell like a Rose while you smell like "manure". They always have someone taking care of them, covering for them, not realizing that they are contributing to their bad behavior. They never take accountability for their actions and how it affects you.
Yup. My ex is a very successful businessman. Lots of flying monkeys including our two daughters. They're so far up his behind, I can see them coming out of his mouth! He gloats he "won".
Plenty of homeless people are narcissistic or Cluster B, not most homeless people, but more than the overall average (same with other personality disorders and mental disorders). The point is, some people won't let go of their defenses no matter what (and how would they know anyways?)
💯💯💣 going thru this with bdaddy.....he's doing everyone wrong burning bridges.. but tells me im getting handouts, and a place to stay paid hotel room for a month etc. Hes a bum...real hobosexual.! And i want to yell from the roof tops he's capable of working getting his OWN ....just choosing NOT TO!! BUT I WONT DO YOU! ... Great video LEE this topic weighed on my mind for years!!
He said he hit rock bottom and went to therapy. Guess what? Therapy stopped for him and he said it was because couples counseling was enough. Nothing really changed and he immediately started doing shady shit again.
He is the baby of 7. He can do no wrong. He can text and say "I'm hungry" and all 6 of his sisters are gonna come pulling up with soup, a cold towel like he's dyen. Ughhhhh spoiled brat.
I would really like to know how you and other narcissist think. Like what does a relationship with a partner feel like. When you discard someone what goes thru your head etc. how do you feel and think about the new supply?
Most narcissists don't believe in God. That's why they have no moral compass. Perhaps there is only help for narcissists who surrender to God. The 12 steps are based on a foundation of Christ. The first step is admitting to being powerless. Humility is not a narcissists strong suit.
Lee my ex narc boyfiend was soo sad when we broke up he hit the rock bottom at that time now i want to heal from it also but i also want to tell hım that he is a narsisist do you think anyting will be changed because i Love hım and i want hım to heal also
Wait.... how your wife came back... how can you know my narc didn't hit rock bottom, like you did and then went back to your wife and she took you back?
My ex Narc doesn’t even believe in therapy 😂 Anytime we went to mediation, he tried to argue with the mediator. The irony is, I remember my ex Narc asking me if there was anything I could change about him what would be. Shouldn't that be an internal question?! It's not for me to answer (which I didn’t). He must've known he needs to change but he wanted me to point out what it is. Narcs are lazy! Limited self awareness. They can't spend time alone and when they do, they rarely self reflect. @mentalhealness Lee, I think the fact that you had that time alone and took the initiative to self reflect was the catalyst for looking at your own behaviour. I think most Narcs are rarely alone. They hop from relationship to relationship. They don't like themselves enough to be by themselves because they actually have to look in the mirror and work on themselves to change what they don't like. But what they do is pretend, and project their idea of who they wish they were onto someone else, and when that person isn't who they want then to be, they chip away at the person. They seek their unmet needs in someone else (which we all do to an extent), but these people blame others for their inadequacies. It's so true that they don't appreciate the sacrifices you made within the relationships, especially because they don't know how to compromise. One of my ex Narcs choice phrases: "I never told you to do that!" They are self-centred and when your world doesn't revolve around theirs they go and find someone else. Parasites!
Even though you’re a narcissist, you’re a lesser narcissist. There is a gradient. A spectrum. If you can be coached and benefit from therapy, you’re not that great of a narcissist. Which is good.
you should note thay just because someone have a trait he is not a narcisist . Now these days people see one trait and start Giving the narcisist antidote. and relations end . and they think they right ,because e did 1 thing . i think your just trying to make money out people .
Most narcissists will not hit rock bottom because they almost always have someone to blame real or imagined 🤷🏽♀️
It’s wild
I Tend To Agree They Go On & On Don’t ???? They Never Change Lee Is In Therapy 💯Are Not In Therapy Like Him
4:54 I seem to find out that truly confronting people with their narcissistic behaviors even when I talk about my toxic or you know retaliation or you know, am I a narcissist? Let's listen to this together. You know I have a best friend and my husband and a grandmother-in-law who's a narcissist and a f****** flying monkey. And it's so funny because my middle son has finally realized you know how f***** up her behavior has been. With her first son. I wasn't allowed to talk about psychiatric treatments depression. You know ADHD. I mean if he my husband did not want me mentioning because he thought I would put it in our son's head. Wow he's had some issues. And it's gone to therapy on his own. And it's changing him. His eyes are opening and then I have a 13-year-old daughter who is just naturally into psychiatric mental disorders I guess. And Jesus at 10 years old. She's writing thesises on ADHD. Autism. Begging to go to counseling. I'm like cool. I've been in and out since I was five. I also had a mother who was always trying to make me out to be the sick one and getting sympathy for it. What's that called again? I'm going to have to look it up s*** Eminem made a song about it anyway.
They're self inflicted with blindness. They've hit rock bottom, but, seemingly, they're unaware(? 🤔🤨) In fact, they've hit rock bottom & continue to dig downward.
This.💔
Even when a narc hits rock bottom they will and absolutely are capable of using their situation to play their ultimate victim mode
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It's extremely RARE for narcissists to be as transparent as you. Most narcissists that has been in therapy will hide their diagnosis, and use learned things from therapy to build a stronger mask, while harming others. My MIL did this.
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I believe it!!!!
I was unfriended and blocked on my birthday… best gift EVER! 🎉
Stay strong
Yay! Happy Birthday! So your narc injured themselves and set you free instead of ruining your day as intended. Sweet!
I went solid no contact 3 days before Christmas, can't say it was like opening a gift a few days later tho. I was one walking talking screaming hyper-reacting, hypervigilant nerve. First reaction was; this is it! Finally gave me everything I needed to stop trying, stop being abused and used and all that good stuff we all are aware of here. It's done and damn, I feel good, back to living again. Then I started to feel it all. But for that moment I felt happy and free. That's my goal, get to open that Christmas gift and enjoy it every day for the rest of my life.
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girl i remember praying he would break up with me on my birthday! i was scared of how he would react if i did it. i eventually did. im glad you made it out without having to deal with it yourself!
As long as there is someone to believe their lies they will always wear the mask...
Mine was going to therapy on zoom.He loved it. One session he wasn’t happy, I asked him what was different, his female therapist left, and they gave him a man😆. This man didn’t fall for his BS, she was stroking his ego. The man want him to come in, and wasn’t giving him the meds that he was selling. Oh well🤣😂. Therapist need to specialize in Narcs because she had no clue.🤦🏽♀️
Flying monkeys, emeshed mothers and sisters, as well as temporary supply, keep them from hitting bottom. But make no mistake, they are miserable. Nothing is ever enough. 😢
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💯💯💣 their family and flying monkeys are miserable and emotionally embarrassed by the narc!
I remember his sister telling me not to hurt her brother bc his ex cheated on him for his friend. That was bullshyt. The lie he told his sis. The texts I found were him telling her how sorry he was and wanted another chance. I was so hurt I took a screenshot and sent it to his sis and asked, "Now what about me??"
To never experience eternal true love❤ is to live a empty life. What is life without love, family, and nurturing family???
Not everyone gets any of that.
Some have siblings or parents that play a toxic role in their lives that never allow them to get to a rock-bottom, by feeding and supplying the narcissism when others have had enough of it.
My husband is in church and BELIEVE ME it's only for image
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They often turn to God/religion when they are in trouble. Church is a place for them to unburden themselves, and when they're OK, you don't see them there.
Sitting in CHURCH trying to outsmart God.
💯!!! They bounce back the same day if they have to….short version of my story….my narcissistic ex got kicked out for cheating. Mind you, he pursued me while in another woman’s home and driving her car. (while he was at the gym) I changed the locks and had been on the phone for an hour with her. She immediately took him back and he posted the next DAY on FB…”great to be back with family and surrounded by love. You have to know when to change your environment”
she became “exalted” …and she reposted it like she’d won! Congratulations to them both. I removed myself and meant it with my chest.
Don’t turn red flags 🚩 pink
It hurt to leave still in love but I’d rather hurt once.
To be in a relationship with a narcissist is like running in to a wall. And it doesn't matter how much you get hurt, they don't care and just want you to run into the wall again.
Narcissists always blame other people for their issues.
A narcissist will go to therapy with their refined mask and triangulate you and find another flying monkey 😩
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I think one of my narcs went to therapy and then tried to trauma dump on family years later. I called her out on it and she went right back to her old habits. Blaming everybody for her behavior. I knew she was full of it when she wouldn't take accountability. Smh!
Mine sure did !
Lee, you are telling the truth.... people will only do what you allow them to do.. I had to learn the hard way... never again... whether they hit rock-bottom or not... let em go🤷🏾♀️
So very true my narcissist bd has his whole family enabling him
100% agree. No rock bottom . My dad is 71 and still a piece of crap. Half of us ( the ones he abused) have gone no contact.. his other kids, are still being hurt by him… these people who don’t want to change are gonna come back as a slug on Salt lick on a hot Texas day. 😂
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He's in rehab right now. And you'd figure he would be at rock bottom. . NOPE! He's at a 5 star lux rehab in the mts in California!!! Getting massages and acupuncture!! You'd think he would be figuring out his life. NOPE! He's trying to figure out a way home. . Only wanted to talk to me the other day to make sure I told his mom to send him money. I have washed my hands of the situation. I finally saw that he will never get better nor will he try to. .
He's hasn't asked for me in days so clearly he has new supply.
Wow. I’m so sorry. They are horrible people aren’t they?
Praying for you.
Block him. Unless you have kids you’re hurting yourself now. 🙏
That's why it's important to never reward bad behavior. You did the right thing. Peace 🕊️✨💐
🎉🎊 Freedom! At the same time, it's incredibly frustrating. And hurtful. If he'd just work on himself, things would be great. Doesn't he want you back?
Narcissists are truly delusional. They can't recognize a good thing when they see it. It's not your fault.
Mine weaponized people he met at rehab. I don't miss him.
You are 1000000% percent right, and it's worse when their family has money and they have a TON of enablers. It looks like they have a big trampoline under them...😳😳😳
Why I just heard that song ‘I’m free falling’ in my head 😅
This is why i tell people karma doesnt exist but consequences do.
Basically the same concept almost
How true, when Karma shows up. You don't get to pick from the menu. You get served what you deserve. Netflix "I Just Killed My Dad". This man manipulated, verbally, mentally and physically abused everyone he ever met. Manipulated the court system between Texas and Louisiana to basically kidnap his son. And hired someone to kill her. Telling Anthony (his son) and I that she was deceased. Why would you go through all that to uneducate, verbally, mentally and violently physically abuse him for a decade.The only explanation I can come up with is Narcissistic spite !!!! I his wife, just underwent a full mouth extraction and denture placement from his fists and aquatic physical therapy from being hit in the back with a baseball bat repeatedly. When I left he called his employer and told them he needed 2 weeks off. I was in the hospital having an emergency hhistorectomy.Told me his son was home schooled. Child never stepped foot in a classroom a day in his life. Burt told me he was in the Marines. He would tell me about vivid combat missions. Never served a day in his life. 4 wives all beaten. He told me I was his 2nd. I found an Adult Freind Finder profile professing he was bisexual in his email. 6 credit cards hidden in his wallet $80,000.00 in unknown credit card debt. 16K in unpaid taxes. 5 felonies. I cannot separate fact from fiction. None of this was discovered until I turned the ventilator off. It's crazy when I filed a 51-page restraining order and truths started coming out about what was going on behind closed doors. His fictional world started to emplode on him. After all he did to his family. I once heard "If your lucky Karma will let you sit back and watch" definitely happened on my case. Threw broken glass in the shower at my feet, threw all the food in the refrigerator all over the kitchen floor. I experienced black eye with Burt. The brain separates from the body and they have no recollection of what they did to you. I was missing 4 teeth, the side of my face was purple and he opened my dresser drawer and peed all over my clothes. Had no memory, packing for a vacation. I had to explain to him what happened to my jacket.... scary. He was a psychopathical, Sociopathic, bisexual, Malignant Narcissist. Malignant meaning no empathy for mortality. His last words to me were he was going to cut me into little pieces. And you have no idea what I am capable of little girl.
And I didn't until his lies were exposed after his passing. This is an actual documentary interviewing us. I didn't want no over glorified and dramatic actors. This situation was bad inside the home. I wanted to let people who have never lived in it. Better understand why women don't leave. I gave my biological son to my 1st ex husband of 20 years. And stayed in the home with Anthony as long as I could physically take it. I had no legality to Anthony. And Burt had already accused me of having relations with his son. 20 attempts to serve a restraining order. He stands in the doorway laughing at law enforcement. They cannot make him open the door. Because he has rights. REALLY !!! look at my face, I have bloody lips, missing teeth and I can't walk. 7 calls by me and family members. All explaining that Burt was unstable and drinking every night. His 17 year old son was in there with multiple fire arms. Since I had to leave him there. I was afraid of I put in writing all the physical abuse I witnessed. It would make it worse for Anthony. I put as many RED FLAGS as I could. You would have thought someone between the intake, recording, processing, judge signing. And the multiple law officers who had their hands on the restraining order would have thought to run a background check.... and see all the felonies !!! Never should have been multiple fire arms in the home. Unstable alcoholic l, felonies and fire arms might have given them the authority to go in. I have a patio video where the office asks my stepson if he is ok. What else is he supposed to say with his abuser standing right there. Ya know, maybe another room, bring him in. Where is abuser is not standing there looking at him. What a toxic, mentally and physically exhausting experience. But I saved my 17 year old stepson from life in prison.
God bless all the people reading this who have been to hell and back like me. And lived to tell about it. If my documentary reaches 1 persons mond out there. I've succeeded. You were in love. See it for what it is not what it was. You are NOT in love, they have you horrifically trauma bonded. Trauma bond is insidious. I was trauma bonded from an Urn. Make a list of everything abusive they did to you. When you feel weak or ruminate. Take that list out and read it. It will help get you mentally back on track. We worked our butts off. He was a project Controls Engineer for chemical plant industry. I worked in Home Healthcare Administration as a Human Resources Manager. We had a 375K home, swimming pool and two brand new cars. He would sit outside and say to me. "Look at what we have built together"
My thought was "But you beat, ridicule, verbally, physically and mentally abuse everyone in the home". He ran through the hotel room one night during an abusive episode screaming "I'm God like"
It was just insane and unforgivable the mess he left me to clean up.
GOD BLESS 🙏🙏
That is what karma is the consequences/reaction to what you do in life. The energy you put into the world.
My narc has learned to survive and thrive in his “rock bottom” for years….he doesn’t even see . It’s actually sad. My main focus is our daughter we share. He has all the flying monkeys and definitely uses them to help boost his ego back up 😂
The real question is what’s your rock bottom.
I hit mine. And bounced right out into freedom 🙏🏾💯✨🙌🏽❤️🩹
Amen 🙏 ❤
Hi Lee I absolutely agree with the narcissist not hitting rock bottom. My ex doesn't think he's a narcissist. When I tried to tell him about his double standards ie he can converse with cheat with talk to other women and he would get mad when I started talking to other men . I never cheated but he looked at my phone this was before I started talking to a male friend and swore he saw text messages. He didn't want me looking through his but felt like he could look at mine. I have looked through his and saw text messages between him and a woman he cheated with . He would stay out all night not answer the ph . If I went around the corner to my gf house or anywhere beside appointments, I was cheating .
Rules for thee but not for me….
Thank you Heavenly Father for your deliverance
They have so many fall back options. They just bounce from supply to supply.
You are doing the lords work
My narcissist ex grandmother died years ago and he became homeless. He moved in with his mother after his Gma died she put him out ,he came to me cheated alot and he's currently homeless again. He was last living with a friend of ours . He was trying to comeback to me and I said hell naw and asked him where's the other women you were with ? He's so arrogant once he get on his feet he act cocky
Sometimes people leaving, is a blessing in disguise for a narcissist. It's an opportunity to see things in a different way than they would normally.. sometimes that's all that's needed is that wake up call
Yep. The current supply is ok with him being a bum...which gives him time to worship her, so he won't hit rock bottom.
Narcs are a shell of a person!
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Literally cause I became a shell in that relationship. Its like they have 1/4 of a soul 😂.
That's right !! Real or imagined but almost ALWAYS have someone 4 sure
YOU SPEAK FACTS...
I know a narcissist who ended up in a major scandal that hit the regional news. He not only went to prison, but was given a harsher sentence than usual. It unbelievably devastated his wife and family. They had no one to blame. It humbled the both of them, and I hoped that it would change them. But now, 10 years later, he and his wife are back to being (85-90%) the same old narcissits that they were before this incident happened. 😒
They know deep down in there heart there losing each time. No matter the level of supply it’s just supply too them and company
they dont care the absolute truth 😊
The ex narc went from living in our nice apt to sleeping in his car. He still didn’t think he was doing bad, just cuz he was making pennies doing doordash…he still thgt he was doing ok. There is no rock bottom in his eyes
Bdaddy went from apt to my house to hotel his mom's....now to hotel again in a spand of 6 years. Just told me someone told him he can live in a tent on a lot space if he wanted. Wth..... you want to live like this....I'm like this is really none of my business. It's just crazy but they don't feel like they reached rock bottom. He said he's not going to a shelter either. It's always going to be somewhere they can go. Even when they go to jail.😂
Congratulations lee🎉! I’m proud of you…we all have flaws,but the fact that you actually put in work!is commendable!to help others.Also thanks for sharing your growth,and journey!💪
I literally found God. Now, I know that’s right. 🙌🏽✨
He is the lily that grows in the valley. And that valley can be low🙏🏾💯✨
My husband does not have a rock bottom. I left him and took the kids and he said he had nothing left but didn't take the time to think about how we got there. He ended up finding a supply with his ex and made me look like a monster. I eventually gave him another chance and he STILL does not want to get help or better himself and continued to blame me for "ruining his life" and "put this family in a ditch😮". I finally told him to leave my ditch😅 and he is moving out and is adamant that it's me that's the problem.
My husband does not have a rock bottom. He will take himself all the way down and keep going. He has overdosed 100s of times. Been in 3 comas. He cannot get past the mental block that says "it's me"
Always someone in the wing...❤❤❤
Change takes effort and time. To change means they weren't perfect or right about everything and the narc always has to be right.
Homeless, now in jail 1 year inside then 1 year forced therapy. Rock bottom? Nope. He gives me voicemails where threatening my life 😈
My narc husband is on dating Hookup, that’s where he gets his supply. He’s definitely gonna get a std!
I be wishing my ex narcissist get a package he can't get rid of because of the mean shihh he's done to me and my kids . He used to get mad at me when I didn't want to sleep with him because he's pulled up in another broads car she texted me from his ph to tell me they were together or another one text me to describe his body to me and everytime I've called the police to get him our of my house they Said they can't tell him to leave my house. His name wasn't on anything.
Yup had an account to every app you can think of! With profile pictures that were taken by me…….🫠
Lee, You Just Might Damn Be The Best Narc Out There, At Least You Hadda Struggle To Reach The Level You’re At Now. You Stayed Down And Took Everything That Came W/ That So Salute
Rarely is there light at the end of their tunnel.
I just ordered your book, Lee, and I plan to make copies to distribute. That is how many people that I know that can use your message. Thanks for all you are doing, Lee.
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I thank Jesus Christ he’s gone every single day.
Blames me for being getting my kids took, being homeless, everything.
SMH I pray things change for you soon
Thanks Lee! For sharing! Good job 😅! Keep sharing
He accused me of having to take dv classes as a Victim
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My ex narc somehow got 3 people at the same time to do her schoolwork at her job. Her parents hold her hand no matter what she does, her baby daddy just accepts and plays along with her bullshit and In the past I was just thinking what the fuck!? It’s crazy.
Thank you for that explanation. Made clear my query.
Mine blames me for making him drink. Apparently, I hung the oven mitts up the wrong way and that triggered his alleged OCD, so then he'd have to drink himself to sleep. He also claims to be afraid of me. 🙄 But the thing is, if I was so horrible to live with, surely he'd have been doing better after I left and not drank himself even drunker.
I gave him a Bible years ago while we were still on good terms. I accept no further responsibility for his condition or situation, be it good or bad.
I am afraid, however, that if he hits rock bottom, that frees him up to hunt me down.
Good for you Lee thank God for his mercy on your soul 🙏🏽
Maaann I went no contact with mine & he put a restraining order on ME 😩😂 like huh ????
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Im.glad for you sir. My children and I arw 2yrs free from my ex-husband and i do not believe he will ever hit rock bottom. And thats not my problem any longer, its now his new wifes problem.
Great video - again thank you❤
Hi Lee, more great advice. Yes I've seen some that would rather have their defiance... than hit rock bottom and work on themselves. They ultimately rob themselves.
If I may make a suggestion, we are concentrating on what you're saying, and then suddenly you inserted that little clip, that broke up what you're saying, maybe put that extra little insert at the end, so that your video can flow like they normally do.
So many other channels insert clips in the middle of a video and its so off putting.
And your usual clip at the end is really great 👍🏻
Thanks Lee for your amazing work that you do, in helping so many people 👍🏻✅
Truth!!!!!!!
They often have many supplies - so called ,,friends". Narcissists don´t have deep connections so it is easy to change people for them. If someone says NO to them - they just go to other people. (They are good actors and talkers - so in fact no problem for them. They play a great game and are perfect in using people). Sadly that is just it. And why changing the game - when it functions well.
They are folks who could fall in a pile of "manure" and smell like a Rose while you smell like "manure". They always have someone taking care of them, covering for them, not realizing that they are contributing to their bad behavior. They never take accountability for their actions and how it affects you.
proud of you that you found god i did too 🙏💯♥ god helped me too he also healed me, god is hope & love..he opened mah heart too..💙
Yep....horrific divorce and he will never take accountability...in fact, he would destroy himself to hurt me. It's crazy - don't waste your time!
I know a naracisst...my brother will never change
I feel he destroyed me. I am only day one of not talking to him, but I always fail. So drained from crying 😢
Mine is a wealthy Dr. He has no end in sight of supply 😏
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Yup. My ex is a very successful businessman. Lots of flying monkeys including our two daughters. They're so far up his behind, I can see them coming out of his mouth! He gloats he "won".
Mine literally has no rock bottom. He was couch surfing, in mania on a bender for 2 months.
Potential Is Never Enough Tho But You’re Right, I Gave My Narc Ex GF A Chance Because Of The Potential Of WHO She Could Be But Thats Not Enough
Plenty of homeless people are narcissistic or Cluster B, not most homeless people, but more than the overall average (same with other personality disorders and mental disorders). The point is, some people won't let go of their defenses no matter what (and how would they know anyways?)
🔥🔥🔥!!!! This is FAXXX
ihad to put in all the work too lee 👏
The ones I know definitely don't have one they live their life like they do no wrong
I wonder which celebrities are clinical narcissists ?
5:25 this is Dr. Mike fr
Whose dr mike? 👀
Don't do it guys 😳
💯💯💣 going thru this with bdaddy.....he's doing everyone wrong burning bridges.. but tells me im getting handouts, and a place to stay paid hotel room for a month etc. Hes a bum...real hobosexual.! And i want to yell from the roof tops he's capable of working getting his OWN ....just choosing NOT TO!! BUT I WONT DO YOU! ... Great video LEE this topic weighed on my mind for years!!
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Sheesh you're discribing my NM enabled to never stop falling. No rock bottom.
Should I ever unblock him so he can see my success
He said he hit rock bottom and went to therapy. Guess what? Therapy stopped for him and he said it was because couples counseling was enough. Nothing really changed and he immediately started doing shady shit again.
He is the baby of 7. He can do no wrong. He can text and say "I'm hungry" and all 6 of his sisters are gonna come pulling up with soup, a cold towel like he's dyen. Ughhhhh spoiled brat.
Does not exist with her.She went n do even worst with the New Supply.
I would really like to know how you and other narcissist think. Like what does a relationship with a partner feel like. When you discard someone what goes thru your head etc. how do you feel and think about the new supply?
If you don’t want clowns stop going to the circus
Most narcissists don't believe in God. That's why they have no moral compass. Perhaps there is only help for narcissists who surrender to God. The 12 steps are based on a foundation of Christ. The first step is admitting to being powerless. Humility is not a narcissists strong suit.
Well said!!!
My narcissist ex (2.5 years back) wants me to become his business partner or join his business as an employee. I mean why?
Lee my ex narc boyfiend was soo sad when we broke up he hit the rock bottom at that time now i want to heal from it also but i also want to tell hım that he is a narsisist do you think anyting will be changed because i Love hım and i want hım to heal also
Hay all
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Im sorry but you have beautiful skin,Sir😍
Wait.... how your wife came back... how can you know my narc didn't hit rock bottom, like you did and then went back to your wife and she took you back?
Hey Lee I love your videos but your little interruptions to promote your other stuff is annoying me just fyi.
My ex Narc doesn’t even believe in therapy 😂
Anytime we went to mediation, he tried to argue with the mediator.
The irony is, I remember my ex Narc asking me if there was anything I could change about him what would be. Shouldn't that be an internal question?! It's not for me to answer (which I didn’t). He must've known he needs to change but he wanted me to point out what it is. Narcs are lazy! Limited self awareness. They can't spend time alone and when they do, they rarely self reflect.
@mentalhealness Lee, I think the fact that you had that time alone and took the initiative to self reflect was the catalyst for looking at your own behaviour. I think most Narcs are rarely alone. They hop from relationship to relationship. They don't like themselves enough to be by themselves because they actually have to look in the mirror and work on themselves to change what they don't like. But what they do is pretend, and project their idea of who they wish they were onto someone else, and when that person isn't who they want then to be, they chip away at the person. They seek their unmet needs in someone else (which we all do to an extent), but these people blame others for their inadequacies.
It's so true that they don't appreciate the sacrifices you made within the relationships, especially because they don't know how to compromise. One of my ex Narcs choice phrases: "I never told you to do that!" They are self-centred and when your world doesn't revolve around theirs they go and find someone else.
Parasites!
Even though you’re a narcissist, you’re a lesser narcissist. There is a gradient. A spectrum. If you can be coached and benefit from therapy, you’re not that great of a narcissist. Which is good.
I keep saying this
you should note thay just because someone have a trait he is not a narcisist .
Now these days people see one trait and start Giving the narcisist antidote.
and relations end .
and they think they right ,because e did 1 thing .
i think your just trying to make money out people .
If it don’t apply, let it fly🤷♂️