@@rs6730 Wrong again.. has everything to do with greed. When a corporation makes the largest profits they've made in history, it's greed. When corporations are handing out bonuses while the company struggles with sales, it's greed.. This is the problem with standard employees. They have no idea how a business runs and simply collect paychecks. Come back when you have some business management/ownership experience and tell us more about what you don't know.
Yeah about 50 years ago. Bread was 30 cents a loaf and today it’s $2.50 A small house in San Diego, California costs $900,000 on average today. What car costs that? Get with the times.
I’ve only bought used cars the last 25 years or so. Used to be used cars were a gamble, but a used car of a reliable model is unlikely to have major problems. Exception is EV cars. The battery is a major risk. No one seems to be buying them
The Chevy Trax/Trailblazer and the Buick Envista/Encore seem to be selling very well. I see them all over the place. Th'ey're fairly priced as well. However, they have 3 cylinder turbo engines and are made from Chinese parts that are assembled in South Korea. Reliability remains to be seen.
With new car monthly payments of $750 or more, plus insurance, just too expensive for many Americans.
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Right it's like 1k a month for a new ride, 2k for an apartment, 500 for food, 600 for health insurance...and a bunch of other expenses lets say 500 total including walking around money.
Pickup trucks have become the "in" thing to drive for people who have absolutely no use for one. In response the auto makers are turning out luxury SUV's with a bed on the back instead of a real affordable working truck so the people who actually need one as a work vehicle can't afford them.
@jessflo7584 I have a 91 Sport Silverado that I am keeping in light of the multitude of problems being seen in recent year trucks. Also doesn't hurt that the sport editions are becoming pretty rare. Basically a 454 SS look but with 350 motor. Also has console and bucket seats same as the 454.
When I was a kid, I would go to auto shows and fantasize about driving all the cars. Now I look inside $40k cars and they feel like Fisher-Price garbage. No thanks
@@tw-BB Toyotas are very reliable, but in some countries that leads to the so called Toyota tax, which makes them more expensive than rivals. Also, in some countries like South Africa, they are a huge target for theft due to their popularity.
Oh wow! It is almost like if you over price your cars in an economy where income increases have not matched massive inflationary rates... no one CAN or WANTS to buy your cars.
how funny your don't understand . it is a legitimate price if you pay and people are paying. why? because it is a collaboration with and for maximizing profits for financial institutions banks by way of making money on lending money and interest rates over long periods of time. . and the foolish consumer accepted this system. they don't care about price they care about monthly payments. lol. fools who accept debt slavery and love it. you get the economy you deserve.
I can’t afford these prices at least if they were quality cars but almost everything is total 💩. Manufacturers and dealers are getting what they deserve!
John Deere or Cat should buy up Jeep, and actually offer it with a worthwhile diesel. Jeep won't go anywhere, as the name is just too valuable. But someone will buy it for pennies on the dollar.
It doesn't help when the dealer tries to add a $7000 "market adjustment" to the already overpriced vehicle I was interested in buying but I declined after they tried that stupidity with me.
Remember when the Maverick came out a few years ago and Ford was bragging about it being the only 20k truck on the market, and then never sold one for less than 30k?
@@geraldmartin5016 Yes I remember. BYD actually makes a very high quality, no frills sedan that they say they could sell in the US for only $11,000 but you know the US will put a $1000% tariff on it. Of course the propaganda will say it's cheap and Chinese low quality but there is an organization that has already reversed engineered their vehicles and they are actually very well made.
At the start of c0vid, they began adding $10K to the sticker price of Hondas. I refused to buy one until the dealers removed that ridiculous added fee. They still haven't, so I just keep repairing my 2010 Honda CRV.
As someone who was FORCED to buy a car in 2024, (someone rear ended me in my only car that was a paid off clunker THAT I LOVED), I bought an older Jeep (2014). I made a hefty down payment and my payments are cheap (less than $300 for the next 4 years and I’m making extra payments to pay off early). There’s NO WAY IN HELL I’d buy a brand new car. I don’t understand people who think they have to have a brand new car. I got better things to pay for.
I am already awake this morning, but 90 seconds in to this video, and yeah, I was ready to go back to bed. I was looking for a quick list of the models. Thank you. Also, the intro had me thinking this was a news station, but, no it isn't.
Someone told me now was the best time to buy a vehicle because Dealers are hurting. I went to Mazda, Hyundai and Ford. As enthusiastic as they were to really want to sell and treat you like royalty, they STILL would not agree to a reasonable monthly payment. Had the manager for Mazda and Ford follow us outside as we were leaving asking “what can we do so you can walk away with a vehicle today?” And I was like “Do you guys listen to yourselves?! LOWER THE PRICE to meet my monthly payment. I said it 50 times!” And one dude was shooting numbers that were nowhere near it. The guy at Ford was blocking my door from closing because he Knew I really wanted to buy. But if they wanna Sell so bad then why not just LOWER the damn price. Better than keep the car, let it depreciate and sell it for 40% less than what I’m willing to pay Now. It makes no damn sense. I KNOW they’re hurting and I could’ve really went for the jugular but I was literally only asking for no more than 9k off a vehicle and like 8k off another. They could’ve pulled a made up rebate out their ass or cut out some of the dealer fees. EVEN if they took a loss, a car off the lot they mark as sold gives them Manufacturer incentives and bonuses. Look at Jeep. They became so god damn stingy and greedy, especially with their Wranglers fanbase, that when sales were bad they were STILL stingy. Now they’re knocking 12k off the price tags with made up rebates, something they could’ve done before. Now with the burden of bankruptcy and longevity, nobody is gonna want to go near them even with cut prices. They could’ve Avoided all of this if they were competitive. Instead they charged 50k for a base wrangler that is build to be extremely basic with nothing premium, even putting rubber hooks to hold the hood down, bragging its to keep the Jeep nostalgic. They been riding that greedy narrative to dummy fan boys for decades while charging a premium. Cars will be flying and Wranglers will still have an mpg of 14 with basic audio for 60k. Some brands just have to finally get shot in the leg to really understand the world is changing and greed will put them under.
Your first problem is you went looking for an American nameplate vehicle. The salesmen at Toyota or Honda don't act like that. Their vehicles sell themselves
You don´t need to wait for long and cars will disappear altogether. The tecnology was there a 100 years back. When the old dark forces go the will go with them. Not even solar cars will keep them alive.
They don't care because they will get bailed out and on top of that the CEO's and upper management will walk away with multi-million dollar bonuses like they always do.
In the UK they want you to buy a car, to keep the economy going, but then they want to leave it at home and take public transport, due to traffic and environmental concerns.
My daily driver for past 30 years is a 1967 fordf100 pu. No computers, no electronics, no gadgets, all metal, totally made in USA, and I can work on it. 😊
There is that CID ignition box on the fender under the hood that will stop the motor until it cools? and you have to sit there for 10 minutes or more. If tuned right, It runs like a little race truck. I got one for $500 non running, and it did the job for 10 years.
Overpriced, cheaply made, overly complex, deliberately unrepairable, heavy as Hell, garish designs, with small, failure-prone over-stressed engines that get crappy mileage. What's not to love?
Sad thing is that the only people that really get hurt are the workers. You know that the executives and large stockholders already squeezed out what they wanted
Bring back crank-up windows and pushbutton radios. Slider heater controls and analog gauges. Flush all computer controls. Bring back cars that start by twisting a key in a slot, and the same key unlocks the door. Cars that you can fix when opening the hood and recognizing everything you see. Dump catalytic converters. I know, I know, I'm just an old-fashioned old guy yearning for the past. But, I'm PROUD of it!
I don't blame you. Old car's are reliable unlike the new soda cans with wheels. I have a 2002 Subaru Forester myself. It was the oldest car I could find.
I bought my first DATSUN 240Z for 1400$usd used. I ran it and repaired it for over 660Kmiles, until I could no longer get common parts for it. Total repair cost was about 12,000$usd over that interval, because they were easily serviced. The modern versions are impossible to repair, and do not last. The old JATCO transmissions were indestructible, modern ones are trash. Nissan deserves to fail. Honda should NOT save them. Our 2006 Honda is still working fine, at about 220Kmiles.
Yes!! 💯 agree on that aspect. If they didn’t play any sales/finance game tactics we’d probably be more inclined to buy knowing they were honest. They already making a profit regardless.
How is it possible in this day and age after so many innovations in manufacturing that we still have so many poor quality cars being made at such pricetags? Ridiculous.
Not everyone watch RUclips videos or read news articles or forum boards, etc. They just buy buy buy brand names for social status. I know people who own hellcats just for social status. They'll never go over 70 mph with it or rev it for the beautiful engine sounds. Just a display prop for them. I know, sad world we live in. And corporations get rich off this.
They want you to keep coming up …manufacturers want u to get new cars every 5-6 years, dealerships want u to bring ur car for maintenance, the states want u to get new cars so they can get taxes …it’s linked up …they want us to spend spend spend money…I hate dealership
Plastic engine parts, more plastic engine parts, built by robots and the price keeps going up??? Hell no! You can keep that junk. I'll keep driving my old car.
Just imagine if a car company started selling a basic 4 cylinder, no tech, just power steering/locks/windows that you could buy direct with little to no markup. Wouldn't they make money on volume if it just looked halfway decent?
no one would by those either...there are plenty of low cost cars/suvs sitting on lots collecting dust...it's not just price, but reliability...everything they make these days is complete junk...it might last until the warranty runs out...after that, good luck
I think such a vehicle would probably not conform to safety and eco regulations. But I also lament the fact that such vehicles are not built anymore. Maybe just fix up a nice Toyota from the 80s.
@@markanderson4163Can blame a lot of that on government regulations that have brought us such things as overly complex 10 speed transmissions and turbo motors to try and meet ever increasing mileage requirements.
The Mitsubishi mirage is that exact car. This is their last model year due to lack of demand. People say this, but it’s not reality for these flashy times.
Can also thank the EPA for the fuel mileage requirements that have brought us smaller turbo motors and more complex transmissions. That increases reliability issues and helps to drive up cost.
My 20-year-old Lincoln Town Car still catches the eye of passers-by. The assembly plant it was built had been torn down to the ground a long time ago. St. Thomas, Ontario Canada. Till now I've spent no more than $5,000 on repairs.
The consumers remember the dealers who added premiums & additional fees on top of already outrageous list prices for overly complex and unreliable vehicles during the covid time. They can go fluff themselves.
There was a small town in Ontario where gigantic pickups often sold for 10- 20% more than typical small houses. $30-50K. That was 10 years ago when that small dealer sold more than any other in a province of 15M. He was also a SOB.
Plain and simple, they have out priced themselves, and people have spoken. We can not afford a second mortgage, basically. I'm 63 now, and I only paid $ 34900.00 for my home with 2 acres with a ranch style house and a 2-car detached garage. WHY would I pay double for a car or even more for a pickup truck? There are too many unneeded assorys that are (NOT) needed like heated and ac seats, heated steering wheel, power everything, a TV screen in the middle of the dash that's the size of a laptop that's more distracting than your damn cell which by the way is linked to your phone the list goes on and on. Don't get me wrong, those are great options. However, you don't have to have them all as standard features. That's why you can't sell them too many options. Go back to making basic cars & trucks with options to purchase as ad ons. Look, vehicles are made for one thing, getting from point a to point b, that's all. Yes, some people can afford and want all their features. Not everyone makes a million dollars a year. We need basic transportation, that's it , go to work and come home. And some make a living in their vehicles all day every day. I never thought I'd live to see the day when a pickup truck cost 100k +. I guess I was wrong in 1986. You could buy a loaded f150 Lariat new for about 10 to 12k. I know I bought one, and the saddest part is in 5 to 7 years it's only worth half if you're lucky, worst investment one can make. At least a home will appriat in time most vehicles never do that, and before everyone starts haten on me there are exceptions to that I well aware but it takes 50 years or more for that to happen and it's a crap shoot on guessing which one will make big $. Well, that my 2 cents worth.
Nissan needs to learn how to style cars properly ! The Maxima is a mess ! I saw the Z at the auto show... it looked terrible ! Apparently you can only buy their cars with a Panoramic roof ! That means all their non Black cars are 2 tone cars ! I want a car with a Steel roof ! And I want it the same color as the rest of the car ! I sat in a Pathfinder... it sucked ! Although I must say that I sat in an Armada.. it felt great ! I definitely wanted it... but the stereo was terrible ! And I hate that silly Floating roof nonsense at the rear... they just released a new car and it had that Floating roof Foolishness too ! I think it was the new Armada... Also, I sat in a previous Gen Maxima... and my head hit the the front windshield ! That is just bad design... the Hated Wind Tunnel styling strikes again !
This story tickles my tummy. We need to do this to all corporations, not just vehicles. DON'T PAY MORE THAN STUFF IS WORTH!!!!! By the way, Jeep WAS known for quality from about 1979 back. This problem has festered a long time.
Ford dealers in my area are storing excess Mustang Mach E and F150 Lightening away from the lot to create a false shortage. You may see 3 or 4 of each on the lot and the sales people will tell you that they are hard to get. Buyers need to be smart and not fall for dealers games.
And any potential buyer comes around, the longer it's been since the vehicle was built, and put into service, the less life the owner will get out of its most expensive component, the batteries.
I paid off my 2020 Honda Black Edition and CRV and was paying $1200 a month for both vehicles. I went looking for a third car and would have to pay over what I was paying for two cars. They think the Covid pricing is still in play. I’ll just bank the 1200 a month
in 1997 I bought a brand new F150 crew cab lariat package with the 5.4L engine 2WD for $18500. Put $10K down and had $300 payments for 36 months. I was making $60K a year back then. Truck was very affordable for me, I was also single and renting then. Today that same truck is $80K and the payments on that truck would be more than my house payment. I have a six figure salary but I now also have a wife and kids too to support. When vehicles come with a price tag a middle class family can afford they will start selling again. Looking at an inflations calculator at worst condition that F150 should now cost $40K. inflation has doubled since 1997 not quadrupled.
Every year I see the price of the new Jeeps, and every year I take my '94 Grand Cherokee to the shop, and tell 'ol Manny to do whatever it takes to make the thing 100% yet again. He always says "I can't believe you want to spend a couple grand on this thing every year, just get a new one". To which 'I'll say: New jeeps cost 80k, and I can keep this thing running for a very long time for a fraction of that.
This may shock you but mechanics almost always overcharge by like 400% for any work you need done on your vehicle. And very often, you don't need that work done. And very often, they don't actually do the work but they charge you anyways. That is our reality in Amercia
Not just the high initial purchase price for current vehicles, there is also: Sales tax, Personal property taxes, Steeper insurance costs, and Expensive dealer service. Back in the '70s, the average US automobile was easily financed for 2-3 years. Today, 5-7 years is the norm - quite a burden on average families.
The auto dealerships caused this issue when they marked up all of their vehicles from 2021-2024. GM, Ford, Stellantis, and the foreign auto makers allowed the dealerships to price gauge all of their customers and purposely reduced their production to allow for price hikes.
@@dragonquake Consumers are the only hope. Keep your car longer before buying new, and demand value by supporting auto mfg. who provide more value offerings. Non competitive mfg. will adjust prices or risk failure.
The Lincoln Navigator and Ford Expedition are THE worst rated for reliability cars made, higher incidences of repairs in the first two years of ownership than any other vehicle sold in the USA. 😢
There was a time when Jeep Wagoneer had a small but steady niche in the U.S. It was cheap and not expensive to maintain. Lots of cargo space. Perfect truck for a working-class family man. Now, a Wagoneer costs $115,000 and as ugly as its designers. No one would want to spend more than $50K on a Wagoneer.
When the price of everything goes up and income cannot match pace, people have a choice: 1) Forever debt or 2) walk away. You don't need a whole hell of a lot of brain cells to figure out what to do in this case.
Most major auto makers: ‘Let’s make expensive cars that are loaded with expensive features, that most people don’t want, and can’t afford.’ ‘We won’t lower our price, and wait the buyers out.’
@@jimmy5634 Based on thermodynamic laws. They are squeezing more mileage and power out of smaller engines, which means heat and high stress. Heat is the enemy of ALL machines. The more horsepower per liter, the less reliable. This is why the slow old pushrod V8 in your grandpa's truck lasts forever, and the high revving 2-stroke in your Honda 250 might last a couple of summers.
@@jimmy5634 Turbos on gas engines don't last. I have worked on cars for 30+ years, so in my case, yes, experience. I will never buy a turbo vehicle for my primary driver.
Vehicles are too expensive, financing is too expensive, reliability makes owning too expensive, and the insane drop in market value makes too expensive. Also, it doesn't help that new vehicles are basically computers on wheels making them complicated and expensive to repair and maintain. Insurance companies are charging an arm and a leg for an average coverage. No wonder that manufacturers are struggling to sell cars. Even buying used is an adventure with pricing and maintenance. It's a transportation indulgence that is neccessary for our daily life.
100% agree, consumers are getting milked from every angle, and people have had enough. its just a shame that people now are turning to the cheap chinese cars if they want a new car which means that chinese manufacturers will start to dominate the car market.
I used to be a hardcore Jeep Guy. I’ve had several XJ Cherokees, a used Liberty and Wrangler. But, the saying for Jeep as Just Empty Every Pocket has never been more true! My last new car purchase in the United States was the 2019 Nissan Frontier. At the time I got a fully loaded Pro-4x for 38k and a very base model soft top Gladiator was 45k! These were my out the door prices. If you look at current prices they were just pricing them that high taking advantage of the early adopters. That’s fine, I’ll be happy opening my sunroof for that price! And if you look at overseas prices they are still significantly more then other parts of the world! I moved to New Zealand this year where cars are significantly cheaper! Jeep wanted 82k NZD (49k USD as of Aug 2024) for a new Gladiator Rubicon! Significantly cheaper and on my radar, but I bought the Ford Ranger Tremor. A fully off road ready variant available in Oceana that I paid 69k NZD! ($41,500 USD Aug 2024) 8k price difference is hard to ignore. There is no hidden surprises in the finance office in New Zealand thank goodness. No way I’d bought either of these new in the USA. Jeep wanted 65k USD and Ford wanted 51k for roughly the same vehicle at the time. Ouch, I’d kept my Nissan if I hadn’t moved! I still love Jeeps but they’ve simply put them outside of an affordable price range. I just can’t justify the cost of the Jeep when I can get another 4wd equipped vehicle significantly cheaper!
They need to quit putting ridiculous things, like massage seats, in vehicles and work on making them dependable. Who needs a massage seat to make you fall asleep while driving? So many of the brand new vehicles are tearing up. The focus is on the wrong thing.
#1 Rule for Autos: They are depreciating assets. The automobiles of today have become too elaborate and this greatly drives up the cost of the vehicles, insurance cost, cost of repair, and reliability for some models. I buy used Toyotas and I probably always will. They have proven to be the most reliable, and carry the best resale value.
Autos ARE depreciating assets. As a family we used to buy Toyota exclusively. Covid pricing made Toyota dealers lose their way- they are still asking over MSRP and their vehicles lack the safety features other makes supply at lower trim levels. We buy Mazda and Honda now.
@ Used cars are a risk for those that can’t fix them. Thankfully I grew up being intuitive about how things worked and there’s nothing in my house or garage that I can’t fix or replace. I went to school for computer engineering, however I find cars, boats, and motorbikes more interesting.
They need to go back to the reality that prices 10 years ago were the CPI limit. $40-60K for a mini-suv is an outlandish manufacturer's attitude toward consumers. Most are manufactured with plastic parts made by underpaid workers.
Not true. Base models by the score. Sedans: Honda Accord, Toyota, Camry, Nissan Altima, Hyundai Sonata, Volkswagen Passat, Kia K5, Mazda CX5. SUV’s: Literally dozens from subcompacts to midsize. Do your homework before you post.
@jimmy5634 Well they don't make the Passat, the Altima is going away. Subcompact SUVs may have a starting price of under 30k but with any decent options they will go over 30k
Nothing appealing in the US new vehicle market really, even if the prices were 25% less. Automakers have lost their design mojo & creative vision in favor of stupid tech-bloat & consumer gimmicks. Meanwhile, dealerships are more crooked than ever, & the typical American worker is being paid about half of what they need to qualify & live as middle-class. What could go wrong?
@@donhebel1011 I like Mazda, but won't buy a vehicle with cylinder-deactivation, stop/start or a turbo engine. Plus, like most modern automakers they use 100% direct-injection engines instead of a smarter mix of both direct & port injection working together.
I bought a 2015 Mazda CX-5 in 2014. It has NEVER been in the shop for repairs, only oil changes and other maintenance. I passed the car on to my son, and it's still very reliable for him.
EV's are essentially useless where I live in northern Michigan...winter subzero temps cut range in half and there is no charging infrastructure here to speak of. Maybe in a large metro area but not here...
You are not their market yet , As you said it , there's no infrastructure for it . - We also thought the same , while we are urban dwellers . - But with gas prices going up , and steady up , With our HOME charging , We pay a bit under 3 cents/km , While gas cost us 15 cents/km . - Been testing in cold canadian winter , When temp is lower than zero celcius ,( around -15+/- ° celcius ) , the battery loses a 2 % in 10 hours .
My experience with a CVT was excellent. It was a 2011 Suzuki SX4 and when I finally (and reluctantly) said goodbye after 13 years and 345,000km it was the engine that lost compression and was uneconomical to replace. Never any CVT issues. I test drove a Nissan in 2010 with their third generation CVT and wasn't impressed, but Suzuki was really robust. I'm very sorry Suzuki pulled out of North America. I'd certainly consider buying from them again.
hello!!!! i saw another video x days back.... lets say the title of this video is right... the other video was mentioning how the auto dealerships WONT release cars for lower $ price tag they want more $ gone away are days where a new car was $26,000 they now want you to to look at new cars at $36,000 and if you want little improvements that price tag is now $40,000 nowhere near the $25,000 so they de alerships only have themselves to blame for to many cars in stock..good job guys
If I were an automotive executive, I would direct my teams to make a significantly cheaper, yet more reliable, and environmentally friendly car. This car would need a key to drive, and to lock it. It would have buttons on the dashboard so anyone in the family can easily drive it. It would be designed such that if the car had damage in an accident, it would be easier and cheaper to repair and replace body parts. Do away with pricey options. The average citizen cannot spend $60,000 (CAD) for their family car. The average person cannot go to work in a $90,000 pick up truck.
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Reliability more than anything.
Dear narrator. That gravity voice is not headphones friendly I struggled until 4:29 then I had to leave
How does the current auto inventory glut compare historically to other similar situations?
No one wants a mortgage payment for a car.
I know I don't and won't.
Not everyone is poor. I see dozens of $100k vehicles every day on I-40.
❤❤❤❤ well said!
@donwyoming1936 Unfortunately, more people will be.
Let me guess, your you work at a car dealership or you'll owner 🤡@@donwyoming1936
Do not buy. Hold the line people!!! Make them bend the knee. We have the power of the purse.
Yes we do!
They'll tell the government that they are too big to fail and need another bail out!!😂
Thats the g9verment talking about themselves @bend3rbot
@@bend3rbotTrump is going to kick their union azzes
If everyone has this mindset, we would take back ownership of our lives.
Greed is destroying everything in this country
Has nothing to do with greed. Taxation over regulation and printing money... Reduce the government and all of this magically goes away.
@@rs6730 Wrong again.. has everything to do with greed. When a corporation makes the largest profits they've made in history, it's greed. When corporations are handing out bonuses while the company struggles with sales, it's greed.. This is the problem with standard employees. They have no idea how a business runs and simply collect paychecks. Come back when you have some business management/ownership experience and tell us more about what you don't know.
It's the American way. 😂
In the world in general, told my work mate so
Greed is global. The Big 3 were greedy and stopped paying Americans and therefore 2 cars are built in America by them.
We better not bail any of these greedy companies out. Let them fail. If they can't build a competitive business, they don't need to be in business.
Right!
they will,,,huge impact on economy
Yeah they bailed out gm never should of happened
What most people do not understand is All the Patents the Auto Companies are suppressing. Most are very Eco friendly.
I know that's right!
I remember when a car did not cost the price of a small house
@@farsifarm6525 you must live in a $40,000 house...
Yeah about 50 years ago.
Bread was 30 cents a loaf and today it’s $2.50
A small house in San Diego, California costs $900,000 on average today. What car costs that?
Get with the times.
@jimmy5634 50 years ago our wages were not as they are nowadays so you gotta throw that in there too.
@@jimmy5634 There are homes, around the US, that are under Navigator's price.
I wish we could still get a house for the price of today’s cars!!
The prices of new cars are RIDICULOUSLY HIGH,,,Who wants to be in car debt..
The Hellcat crowd doesn’t care about debt or interest rates
Idiots paid it for 3 years now comes the fall then comes the bailouts
Not me!
Until car prices drop 30-40% across the board, no one is buying anything new off of a car lot.
I’ve only bought used cars the last 25 years or so. Used to be used cars were a gamble, but a used car of a reliable model is unlikely to have major problems. Exception is EV cars. The battery is a major risk. No one seems to be buying them
The Chevy Trax/Trailblazer and the Buick Envista/Encore seem to be selling very well. I see them all over the place. Th'ey're fairly priced as well. However, they have 3 cylinder turbo engines and are made from Chinese parts that are assembled in South Korea. Reliability remains to be seen.
60%
Quality and reliability MUST be the top priority. These cars are made with cra parts and crappy interiors.
Cars are dirt cheap in the usa 😂 .
I would love cars to be this cheap over here
It's usually price! Who wants to pay $70k for a truck? Or $50k for a car, while most people make only $50k a year. It's not rocket science!
Who wants to spend 30-40% more for food? Thanks Biden you 🤡
@@jimmy5634Trump is about to take it even further Dummy
@@jimmy5634perhaps you should cut back on your made in China MAGA crap.😂😂😂😂😂 bread would be more affordable for you.🙈
@jimmy5634 you think Biden has control over food prices...??? Wow... ignorant or what...
@@jimmy5634wait until Trump deports all the cheap labor, who do you think is picking these vegetable’s and fruit, you haven’t seen anything yet.
With new car monthly payments of $750 or more, plus insurance, just too expensive for many Americans.
Right it's like 1k a month for a new ride, 2k for an apartment, 500 for food, 600 for health insurance...and a bunch of other expenses lets say 500 total including walking around money.
1,800 for a 1 bedroom apartment in California. $800-$1000 just to rent a room. It's insane.
All by design!! They want everyone to be ride sharing teathered to their 15 min cities!
I refuse to pay more for a truck than I did for my first house
Exactly this! 🎯
We're almost there. My first house was 155k, and I'm not even that old.
Pickup trucks have become the "in" thing to drive for people who have absolutely no use for one. In response the auto makers are turning out luxury SUV's with a bed on the back instead of a real affordable working truck so the people who actually need one as a work vehicle can't afford them.
I paid $11,000 for first house in1976--completely remodeled. I wish I could find a good used car for that price!
I don’t have a house and I’m not going to spend the amount of a down payment in my area.
The prices are crazy. People are hanging on to their current vehicles
My 2002 180,000 mile suv
Truly a holiday vehicle
Yellow Red & Green dash
lites on & flashing like a
Christmas Tree.
watch them sell refurbished cars as 'new' and get away scott free because its a takeover of America.
Or buying and 80's model and restoring it for a lot less.
@jessflo7584 I have a 91 Sport Silverado that I am keeping in light of the multitude of problems being seen in recent year trucks. Also doesn't hurt that the sport editions are becoming pretty rare. Basically a 454 SS look but with 350 motor. Also has console and bucket seats same as the 454.
No they are leasing.
When I was a kid, I would go to auto shows and fantasize about driving all the cars. Now I look inside $40k cars and they feel like Fisher-Price garbage. No thanks
I avoid vehicles with too much technology. I prefer simple, reliable, affordable cars.
exactly!!!!!! If China were to block all tech, I would be perfectly happy with a regular no tech car!
TOYOTA
i got a 03 hummer h2 going up fpr sale next month... will be best one on market too..
@@tw-BB Toyotas are very reliable, but in some countries that leads to the so called Toyota tax, which makes them more expensive than rivals. Also, in some countries like South Africa, they are a huge target for theft due to their popularity.
@tw-BB I guess you haven't priced Toyotas lately. Or seen the major engine problems they're having. They've always been overrated.
Yet dealerships still don't want to lower prices....it boggles the mind
It's not rocket science, they want profits, it's sad
Let them go under.
The owners are rich they don't care if the employees suffer.
Automakers and dealers want to seriously NORMALIZE high prices. Hells no
Same with Nvidia gpus
@@otrOptionsOmgsh don’t even get me started on the 30 series pure bull shit
Oh wow! It is almost like if you over price your cars in an economy where income increases have not matched massive inflationary rates... no one CAN or WANTS to buy your cars.
how funny your don't understand . it is a legitimate price if you pay and people are paying. why? because it is a collaboration with and for maximizing profits for financial institutions banks by way of making money on lending money and interest rates over long periods of time. .
and the foolish consumer accepted this system. they don't care about price they care about monthly payments. lol. fools who accept debt slavery and love it. you get the economy you deserve.
But people have no problem buy 80k Tahoes and Suburbans. And Toyotas selling for 10k over msrp!!
$100,000 for a car is insane. In fact, I don't think "insane" is a strong enough word. 👎
@@TJBellamy99 Those are people who get crazy monthly payments which they can barely afford.
All part of the plan. 2030 you will own NOTHING. Schwabb was not lying.
Overpriced crap.
Damn right They all need to make affordable reliable cars and trucks
I was in the market for a new car... The dealer wanted to charge me $7000 for a "destination fee" plus another $4500 for other random upgrades...
Paying for garbage plastic and sheet metal that as best is like aluminum foil, if even any!!!!!
I can’t afford these prices at least if they were quality cars but almost everything is total 💩. Manufacturers and dealers are getting what they deserve!
They're all going to Chinese cars
100% no government bailout
let the market work. These companies deserve to go out of business. No more taxpayer bailouts. The just use the money to pay themselves anyway.
How many of those car companies in the video got government bailouts 😂, how many will in the future?
@@johns7539 I don't see Trump bailing out failed businesses...
They get bailouts because if they close, thousands of people will be jobless
John Deere or Cat should buy up Jeep, and actually offer it with a worthwhile diesel. Jeep won't go anywhere, as the name is just too valuable. But someone will buy it for pennies on the dollar.
@@kevinh891oh hell no 😂
It doesn't help when the dealer tries to add a $7000 "market adjustment" to the already overpriced vehicle I was interested in buying but I declined after they tried that stupidity with me.
You are absolutely right, Daves-- why are there steel market adjustments when we know there is no more supply chain issues?
Remember when the Maverick came out a few years ago and Ford was bragging about it being the only 20k truck on the market, and then never sold one for less than 30k?
@@geraldmartin5016 Yes I remember. BYD actually makes a very high quality, no frills sedan that they say they could sell in the US for only $11,000 but you know the US will put a $1000% tariff on it. Of course the propaganda will say it's cheap and Chinese low quality but there is an organization that has already reversed engineered their vehicles and they are actually very well made.
At the start of c0vid, they began adding $10K to the sticker price of Hondas. I refused to buy one until the dealers removed that ridiculous added fee. They still haven't, so I just keep repairing my 2010 Honda CRV.
Market Adjustment is just a nicer term for Price Gauging.
As someone who was FORCED to buy a car in 2024, (someone rear ended me in my only car that was a paid off clunker THAT I LOVED), I bought an older Jeep (2014). I made a hefty down payment and my payments are cheap (less than $300 for the next 4 years and I’m making extra payments to pay off early). There’s NO WAY IN HELL I’d buy a brand new car. I don’t understand people who think they have to have a brand new car. I got better things to pay for.
I hate inheriting someone else's bad choices, that's why I bought a new Camry.
You have to know how to play the Game. And there is a game to buying new cars!
Same. I needed a truck and bought a 2012 Ford F-250 for $$19k with 63k miles. A steal. I was NOT going to pay for a $90k truck.
Navigator, Ionic 6, Land Rover Discovery Sport, Audi Q8, Fiat 500E, Jeep Grand Wagoneer, BMW 5 series, Nissan Z
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Thanks, too boring to listen to.
I am already awake this morning, but 90 seconds in to this video, and yeah, I was ready to go back to bed. I was looking for a quick list of the models. Thank you.
Also, the intro had me thinking this was a news station, but, no it isn't.
Thank you hero Robert!
Thank you sir!
Someone told me now was the best time to buy a vehicle because Dealers are hurting. I went to Mazda, Hyundai and Ford. As enthusiastic as they were to really want to sell and treat you like royalty, they STILL would not agree to a reasonable monthly payment. Had the manager for Mazda and Ford follow us outside as we were leaving asking “what can we do so you can walk away with a vehicle today?” And I was like “Do you guys listen to yourselves?! LOWER THE PRICE to meet my monthly payment. I said it 50 times!” And one dude was shooting numbers that were nowhere near it. The guy at Ford was blocking my door from closing because he Knew I really wanted to buy. But if they wanna Sell so bad then why not just LOWER the damn price. Better than keep the car, let it depreciate and sell it for 40% less than what I’m willing to pay Now. It makes no damn sense. I KNOW they’re hurting and I could’ve really went for the jugular but I was literally only asking for no more than 9k off a vehicle and like 8k off another. They could’ve pulled a made up rebate out their ass or cut out some of the dealer fees. EVEN if they took a loss, a car off the lot they mark as sold gives them Manufacturer incentives and bonuses. Look at Jeep. They became so god damn stingy and greedy, especially with their Wranglers fanbase, that when sales were bad they were STILL stingy. Now they’re knocking 12k off the price tags with made up rebates, something they could’ve done before. Now with the burden of bankruptcy and longevity, nobody is gonna want to go near them even with cut prices. They could’ve Avoided all of this if they were competitive. Instead they charged 50k for a base wrangler that is build to be extremely basic with nothing premium, even putting rubber hooks to hold the hood down, bragging its to keep the Jeep nostalgic. They been riding that greedy narrative to dummy fan boys for decades while charging a premium. Cars will be flying and Wranglers will still have an mpg of 14 with basic audio for 60k. Some brands just have to finally get shot in the leg to really understand the world is changing and greed will put them under.
Your first problem is you went looking for an American nameplate vehicle. The salesmen at Toyota or Honda don't act like that. Their vehicles sell themselves
You don´t need to wait for long and cars will disappear altogether. The tecnology was there a 100 years back. When the old dark forces go the will go with them. Not even solar cars will keep them alive.
8. Lincoln Navigator
7. Hyundai Ionic 6
6. Land Rover Discovery Sport
5. Audi Q8
4. Fiat 500e
3. Jeep Grand Wagoneer
2. BMW 5 series
1. Nissan Z
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Thank you!
Thanks for the time savings!
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Thank you!
They'd rather go bankrupt then sell at normal prices?
It seems the manufacturers have put their franchised dealers in a really hard place.
They would rather get bailed out
They don't care because they will get bailed out and on top of that the CEO's and upper management will walk away with multi-million dollar bonuses like they always do.
@ they shouldn’t bail out any of them. Regardless of if they are American manufacturers or not.
@@donhebel1011The Dealers are equally responsible for the auto crisis. Good Riddance
In the UK they want you to buy a car, to keep the economy going, but then they want to leave it at home and take public transport, due to traffic and environmental concerns.
The new cars are so unreliable and with very high repair cost you would have to be a fool to buy one
They lost their fu_king mind
Plastic junk at $50k plus Prices 😨
"The devil's pockets are infinitely large and never full", my late dad -who never owned a car- used to say.
Stop building what YOU and the govt want and build what the CUSTOMER wants.
❤ Exactly! The New cars always have issues and recalls. I'll just buy a 90s Honda or a 70s Chevelle.
low wages. high prices. high interest rates. idk what these companies are expecting to happen
Interest rates are not high.
Unions have destroyed made-in-USA manufacturing. Deal with it.
My daily driver for past 30 years is a 1967 fordf100 pu. No computers, no electronics, no gadgets, all metal, totally made in USA, and I can work on it. 😊
And live in a non-salted-road belt.
Clearly you don't live through midwest/northeast winters.
You can't do that in Nova Scotia.
I live in pnw where it rains all the time, so I'm dealing with a few rust issues, thankfully I have a garage
There is that CID ignition box on the fender under the hood that will stop the motor until it cools? and you have to sit there for 10 minutes or more.
If tuned right, It runs like a little race truck.
I got one for $500 non running, and it did the job for 10 years.
Overpriced, cheaply made, overly complex, deliberately unrepairable, heavy as Hell, garish designs, with small, failure-prone over-stressed engines that get crappy mileage.
What's not to love?
Sad thing is that the only people that really get hurt are the workers. You know that the executives and large stockholders already squeezed out what they wanted
Unions never get hurt either .
@@hemihead001 Unions only exist to serve their members
Bring back crank-up windows and pushbutton radios. Slider heater controls and analog gauges. Flush all computer controls. Bring back cars that start by twisting a key in a slot, and the same key unlocks the door. Cars that you can fix when opening the hood and recognizing everything you see. Dump catalytic converters. I know, I know, I'm just an old-fashioned old guy yearning for the past. But, I'm PROUD of it!
I don't blame you. Old car's are reliable unlike the new soda cans with wheels.
I have a 2002 Subaru Forester myself.
It was the oldest car I could find.
I agree! Pre70s cars were very easy to work on and repair yourself. Bring them back!
@@RickH-v2gJust don’t have a crash in one .
Timing chains instead of timing belts
Ahh. Yeah. Back when they broke all the time. Hey, at least you could get them going again with stop leak and carb cleaner…
I bought my first DATSUN 240Z for 1400$usd used. I ran it and repaired it for over 660Kmiles, until I could no longer get common parts for it. Total repair cost was about 12,000$usd over that interval, because they were easily serviced. The modern versions are impossible to repair, and do not last. The old JATCO transmissions were indestructible, modern ones are trash. Nissan deserves to fail. Honda should NOT save them. Our 2006 Honda is still working fine, at about 220Kmiles.
The market is demanding lower prices and higher quality. Value for money is always a popular feature.
Sadly, 'value for money' is a concept of yesteryear.
Supply up demand down and they keep a price point too high
It doesn't help either when the sales trying to rip you a new one
Yes!! 💯 agree on that aspect. If they didn’t play any sales/finance game tactics we’d probably be more inclined to buy knowing they were honest. They already making a profit regardless.
People: Please give us small, cheap, and basic trucks
American Manufacturers: You want bigger trucks with more hybrids and tech, say no more
High prices and low quality are the problem .
Thanks Captain Obvious
@@jimmy5634 magas can't scroll by without being A holes .
CEOs are the problem.
@jimmy I bet you believe migrant workers are stealing IT jobs too right?
How is it possible in this day and age after so many innovations in manufacturing that we still have so many poor quality cars being made at such pricetags? Ridiculous.
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Made in USA? Unique for the home market with no exports doesn't help much.
Because they know people are dumb enough to pay for it.
Not everyone watch RUclips videos or read news articles or forum boards, etc.
They just buy buy buy brand names for social status.
I know people who own hellcats just for social status. They'll never go over 70 mph with it or rev it for the beautiful engine sounds. Just a display prop for them.
I know, sad world we live in. And corporations get rich off this.
They want you to keep coming up …manufacturers want u to get new cars every 5-6 years, dealerships want u to bring ur car for maintenance, the states want u to get new cars so they can get taxes …it’s linked up …they want us to spend spend spend money…I hate dealership
Plastic engine parts, more plastic engine parts, built by robots and the price keeps going up???
Hell no! You can keep that junk.
I'll keep driving my old car.
Me too!
@@erinwltr They will make sure u get out of ur car by raising gas prices. CA is already doing it.
Just imagine if a car company started selling a basic 4 cylinder, no tech, just power steering/locks/windows that you could buy direct with little to no markup. Wouldn't they make money on volume if it just looked halfway decent?
no one would by those either...there are plenty of low cost cars/suvs sitting on lots collecting dust...it's not just price, but reliability...everything they make these days is complete junk...it might last until the warranty runs out...after that, good luck
I think such a vehicle would probably not conform to safety and eco regulations. But I also lament the fact that such vehicles are not built anymore. Maybe just fix up a nice Toyota from the 80s.
Toyota Camry
@@markanderson4163Can blame a lot of that on government regulations that have brought us such things as overly complex 10 speed transmissions and turbo motors to try and meet ever increasing mileage requirements.
The Mitsubishi mirage is that exact car. This is their last model year due to lack of demand. People say this, but it’s not reality for these flashy times.
Screw them, this is what Corporate greed causes.
Can also thank the EPA for the fuel mileage requirements that have brought us smaller turbo motors and more complex transmissions. That increases reliability issues and helps to drive up cost.
No, this is excessive regulation and cash for clunkers.
@@jimmyjoe1591Exactly right. Bidenflation impacts every industry - the automobile industry is no different.
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@@jimmyjoe1591 Cash for clunkers was 15 years ago and was a short-run stimulus deal.
My 20-year-old Lincoln Town Car still catches the eye of passers-by.
The assembly plant it was built had been torn down to the ground a long time ago. St. Thomas, Ontario Canada.
Till now I've spent no more than $5,000 on repairs.
Ain’t no way I’m paying more for a vehicle than I paid for my house.
Preach!
Absolutely
keep walking , lol
The consumers remember the dealers who added premiums & additional fees on top of already outrageous list prices for overly complex and unreliable vehicles during the covid time. They can go fluff themselves.
There was a small town in Ontario where gigantic pickups often sold for 10- 20% more than typical small houses. $30-50K. That was 10 years ago when that small dealer sold more than any other in a province of 15M. He was also a SOB.
Plain and simple, they have out priced themselves, and people have spoken. We can not afford a second mortgage, basically. I'm 63 now, and I only paid $ 34900.00 for my home with 2 acres with a ranch style house and a 2-car detached garage. WHY would I pay double for a car or even more for a pickup truck? There are too many unneeded assorys that are (NOT) needed like heated and ac seats, heated steering wheel, power everything, a TV screen in the middle of the dash that's the size of a laptop that's more distracting than your damn cell which by the way is linked to your phone the list goes on and on. Don't get me wrong, those are great options. However, you don't have to have them all as standard features. That's why you can't sell them too many options. Go back to making basic cars & trucks with options to purchase as ad ons. Look, vehicles are made for one thing, getting from point a to point b, that's all. Yes, some people can afford and want all their features. Not everyone makes a million dollars a year. We need basic transportation, that's it , go to work and come home. And some make a living in their vehicles all day every day. I never thought I'd live to see the day when a pickup truck cost 100k +. I guess I was wrong in 1986. You could buy a loaded f150 Lariat new for about 10 to 12k. I know I bought one, and the saddest part is in 5 to 7 years it's only worth half if you're lucky, worst investment one can make. At least a home will appriat in time most vehicles never do that, and before everyone starts haten on me there are exceptions to that I well aware but it takes 50 years or more for that to happen and it's a crap shoot on guessing which one will make big $. Well, that my 2 cents worth.
If Honda merges with Nissan it will be a huge mistake. Nissan will drag Honda into the gutter.
Yep
Nissan needs to learn how to style cars properly ! The Maxima is a mess ! I saw the Z at the auto show... it looked terrible !
Apparently you can only buy their cars with a Panoramic roof ! That means all their non Black cars are 2 tone cars ! I want a car with a Steel roof ! And I want it the same color as the rest of the car !
I sat in a Pathfinder... it sucked ! Although I must say that I sat in an Armada.. it felt great ! I definitely wanted it... but the stereo was terrible !
And I hate that silly Floating roof nonsense at the rear... they just released a new car and it had that Floating roof Foolishness too ! I think it was the new Armada...
Also, I sat in a previous Gen Maxima... and my head hit the the front windshield ! That is just bad design... the Hated Wind Tunnel styling strikes again !
Honda quality has been suffering beginning 2015-2016 onward. Nissan has never had quality. Not a good merger at all as Nissan will drag Honda down.
Yup just like Sears should have never bought KMart.
Nisda sounds better than Hodsan
This story tickles my tummy. We need to do this to all corporations, not just vehicles.
DON'T PAY MORE THAN STUFF IS WORTH!!!!!
By the way, Jeep WAS known for quality from about 1979 back. This problem has festered a long time.
Ford dealers in my area are storing excess Mustang Mach E and F150 Lightening away from the lot to create a false shortage. You may see 3 or 4 of each on the lot and the sales people will tell you that they are hard to get. Buyers need to be smart and not fall for dealers games.
Wow😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮....that's crazy
Hahaha!!
That’s bull. Dealers pay interest on those cars after 30 days. I assure you, they are not hiding them
And any potential buyer comes around, the longer it's been since the vehicle was built, and put into service, the less life the owner will get out of its most expensive component, the batteries.
Eventually they will have to junk them, or sell them as used. Lots of things deteriorate on a car over time, driven or not. Even more so with EVs.
I paid off my 2020 Honda Black Edition and CRV and was paying $1200 a month for both vehicles. I went looking for a third car and would have to pay over what I was paying for two cars. They think the Covid pricing is still in play. I’ll just bank the 1200 a month
in 1997 I bought a brand new F150 crew cab lariat package with the 5.4L engine 2WD for $18500. Put $10K down and had $300 payments for 36 months. I was making $60K a year back then. Truck was very affordable for me, I was also single and renting then. Today that same truck is $80K and the payments on that truck would be more than my house payment. I have a six figure salary but I now also have a wife and kids too to support. When vehicles come with a price tag a middle class family can afford they will start selling again. Looking at an inflations calculator at worst condition that F150 should now cost $40K. inflation has doubled since 1997 not quadrupled.
Cars not selling, let's continually increase the price
put more plastic crapp where metal used to be
Every year I see the price of the new Jeeps, and every year I take my '94 Grand Cherokee to the shop, and tell 'ol Manny to do whatever it takes to make the thing 100% yet again. He always says "I can't believe you want to spend a couple grand on this thing every year, just get a new one". To which 'I'll say: New jeeps cost 80k, and I can keep this thing running for a very long time for a fraction of that.
This may shock you but mechanics almost always overcharge by like 400% for any work you need done on your vehicle. And very often, you don't need that work done. And very often, they don't actually do the work but they charge you anyways.
That is our reality in Amercia
@@99pncrft You're off topic.
@@Cucumberflavoredmustard The topic is money, and I'm dead on, brother. Don't live in ignorance
@@99pncrft Ah, a personal insult. Only my fourth one today.
@@99pncrftHe’s right. You’re off topic. The topic is the title of the vid. Go check again. You’re talking about bad service.
Outrageous price tags . . . I will not pay the price for a new vehicle. NO WAY !
Manufacturers have allowed their greedy dealers to go insane on pricing .
actually the dealerships dont set MSRP...they set the "market adjustment" ripoffs.
Absolutely A Hard NO to Jaguar & their Rainbow Cars!!!!!!
I like rainbows. I don't like overpriced cars or bigots!
I love rainbows 🌈
Makes my 1983 Porsche 944 with 55,000 miles for 10 grand seem like a keeper!!! Oh yeah, we still !! Get thumbs up when we drive 😊😊😊😊😊😊😅😅😅😅😅😅
Dealers should the same pain buyers are feeling trying to buy their overpriced cars!.
They are...
I would’ve never imagined buying any of these vehicles anyway, but thank you for the research and the info!
My Lincoln navigator didn't last 6 years before it rusted out completely. My land rover blew up in 4 years. Mercedes and BMW were money pits.
Stop buying status symbols and get a Subaru.
I have an 03' 330i. Yeah I've put a lot of money into it to keep it on the road but it has been reliable and maintains performance.
Maybe a Lexus will serve you better. Or something else Japanese.
You must live in a cold snowy climate if your vehicle rusted out. I didn’t realize how junky Land Rover is!
@@BlueRidgeKat1 no, never buy Subaru you will regret it!
Not just the high initial purchase price for current vehicles, there is also:
Sales tax, Personal property taxes, Steeper insurance costs, and Expensive dealer service.
Back in the '70s, the average US automobile was easily financed for 2-3 years. Today, 5-7 years is the norm - quite a burden on average families.
I got a little Ford Ecosport 8 years ago. Keeps on keeping on. Not replacing it any time soon.
$100k+ for an SUV? Gee, I wonder why they are having trouble moving them?
Its scary to think someone out there will buy one.
Not even 10 years ago a fully-kitted out Escalade was 80.
The auto dealerships caused this issue when they marked up all of their vehicles from 2021-2024. GM, Ford, Stellantis, and the foreign auto makers allowed the dealerships to price gauge all of their customers and purposely reduced their production to allow for price hikes.
They have no power over dealer pricing. Dealership lobbyists protect them
@@dragonquake Consumers are the only hope. Keep your car longer before buying new, and demand value by supporting auto mfg. who provide more value offerings. Non competitive mfg. will adjust prices or risk failure.
gouge
Just saw your videos and bought XAI320 yesterday.....its up 24% today talk about timing......Thanks
The Lincoln Navigator and Ford Expedition are THE worst rated for reliability cars made, higher incidences of repairs in the first two years of ownership than any other vehicle sold in the USA. 😢
Be nice if they were offered with 5.0 V8 like the F150. I am trying to stay away from turbo motors as that just adds more chance for failures.
Think it is Range Rover
@@craigdoriety9798 - Agree completely. More rev’s, heat, stress equals more wear and tear.
@@ElCid70 - Range Rover has been on the list, vying for first place or top 3, LOL!
We call them the Terminator and the Wreckspedition.
There was a time when Jeep Wagoneer had a small but steady niche in the U.S. It was cheap and not expensive to maintain. Lots of cargo space. Perfect truck for a working-class family man. Now, a Wagoneer costs $115,000 and as ugly as its designers. No one would want to spend more than $50K on a Wagoneer.
Ever since Stellantis bought the Jeep brand, all Jeeps products have steadily declined in quality.
Thanks for the XAI320 update! I am loving my XAI320!
When the price of everything goes up and income cannot match pace, people have a choice: 1) Forever debt or 2) walk away. You don't need a whole hell of a lot of brain cells to figure out what to do in this case.
I Have 4 major dealers in town and you cannot even fit a bicycle on their lots there are so many cars
The discount on some of the vehicles was the actual cost of the car 20 years ago.,
Good indication consumers are learning... Build a good product or no purchase.
Most major auto makers: ‘Let’s make expensive cars that are loaded with expensive features, that most people don’t want, and can’t afford.’ ‘We won’t lower our price, and wait the buyers out.’
Just unload them in the market at scrap value. Then it is possible to claim 100% success in clearing all the stock.
All manufacturers are way too expensive. Prices have gone up and the quality is down. I know I work for one.
Never buy large SUV with a V6 twin turbo. You'll get 100K miles and then will need to replace both turbos.
Based on what? Your experience?
Okey dokey.
@@jimmy5634Turbos are just one more thing to break - and they're expensive AF to replace.
@@jimmy5634 Based on thermodynamic laws. They are squeezing more mileage and power out of smaller engines, which means heat and high stress. Heat is the enemy of ALL machines. The more horsepower per liter, the less reliable. This is why the slow old pushrod V8 in your grandpa's truck lasts forever, and the high revving 2-stroke in your Honda 250 might last a couple of summers.
@@jimmy5634 Turbos on gas engines don't last. I have worked on cars for 30+ years, so in my case, yes, experience. I will never buy a turbo vehicle for my primary driver.
This story tickles my tummy. DON'T PAY MORE THAN STUFF IS WORTH!!!!!
By the way, Jeep WAS known for quality from about 1979 back.
Vehicles are too expensive, financing is too expensive, reliability makes owning too expensive, and the insane drop in market value makes too expensive. Also, it doesn't help that new vehicles are basically computers on wheels making them complicated and expensive to repair and maintain. Insurance companies are charging an arm and a leg for an average coverage. No wonder that manufacturers are struggling to sell cars. Even buying used is an adventure with pricing and maintenance. It's a transportation indulgence that is neccessary for our daily life.
Average finance rate for new is around 7%. Used is even worse with an average of 11%.
100% agree, consumers are getting milked from every angle, and people have had enough.
its just a shame that people now are turning to the cheap chinese cars if they want a new car which means that chinese manufacturers will start to dominate the car market.
I used to be a hardcore Jeep Guy. I’ve had several XJ Cherokees, a used Liberty and Wrangler. But, the saying for Jeep as Just Empty Every Pocket has never been more true! My last new car purchase in the United States was the 2019 Nissan Frontier. At the time I got a fully loaded Pro-4x for 38k and a very base model soft top Gladiator was 45k! These were my out the door prices. If you look at current prices they were just pricing them that high taking advantage of the early adopters. That’s fine, I’ll be happy opening my sunroof for that price! And if you look at overseas prices they are still significantly more then other parts of the world! I moved to New Zealand this year where cars are significantly cheaper! Jeep wanted 82k NZD (49k USD as of Aug 2024) for a new Gladiator Rubicon! Significantly cheaper and on my radar, but I bought the Ford Ranger Tremor. A fully off road ready variant available in Oceana that I paid 69k NZD! ($41,500 USD Aug 2024) 8k price difference is hard to ignore. There is no hidden surprises in the finance office in New Zealand thank goodness. No way I’d bought either of these new in the USA. Jeep wanted 65k USD and Ford wanted 51k for roughly the same vehicle at the time. Ouch, I’d kept my Nissan if I hadn’t moved! I still love Jeeps but they’ve simply put them outside of an affordable price range. I just can’t justify the cost of the Jeep when I can get another 4wd equipped vehicle significantly cheaper!
They need to quit putting ridiculous things, like massage seats, in vehicles and work on making them dependable. Who needs a massage seat to make you fall asleep while driving? So many of the brand new vehicles are tearing up. The focus is on the wrong thing.
#1 Rule for Autos: They are depreciating assets.
The automobiles of today have become too elaborate and this greatly drives up the cost of the vehicles, insurance cost, cost of repair, and reliability for some models.
I buy used Toyotas and I probably always will. They have proven to be the most reliable, and carry the best resale value.
Autos ARE depreciating assets.
As a family we used to buy Toyota exclusively. Covid pricing made Toyota dealers lose their way- they are still asking over MSRP and their vehicles lack the safety features other makes supply at lower trim levels.
We buy Mazda and Honda now.
Me too!
I got an older Honda .it never lets me down it's easy to work so I do my own maintenance when needed
Buying used cars is risky too.
@ Used cars are a risk for those that can’t fix them. Thankfully I grew up being intuitive about how things worked and there’s nothing in my house or garage that I can’t fix or replace. I went to school for computer engineering, however I find cars, boats, and motorbikes more interesting.
My local gmc dealer has a disgusting amount of hummer EV’s sitting around it’s insane.
The price is the problem...fix that, and buyers will be back
No they won't. Reliability is right up there too.
Further devaluation after January 1 as all vehicles are one year older … Product production misguided product planning
Most new car dealers are thieves.
Lower the prices so consumers can afford to buy and maintain, or simply provide unlimited length warranties. Economic Common sense 101.
They need to go back to the reality that prices 10 years ago were the CPI limit. $40-60K for a mini-suv is an outlandish manufacturer's attitude toward consumers. Most are manufactured with plastic parts made by underpaid workers.
Cars are just too expensive. Nothing under 30k.
Not true. Base models by the score.
Sedans: Honda Accord, Toyota, Camry, Nissan Altima, Hyundai Sonata, Volkswagen Passat, Kia K5, Mazda CX5.
SUV’s: Literally dozens from subcompacts to midsize.
Do your homework before you post.
@@jimmy5634and you need to remember to take your Xanax before you post.
They were a lot of cars not SUVs under 30k and no one bought them. Now we are stuck with high priced SUVs that is what everyone wants
@@jimmy5634 everything you listed is over 30k here. Do your homework before posting.
@jimmy5634 Well they don't make the Passat, the Altima is going away. Subcompact SUVs may have a starting price of under 30k but with any decent options they will go over 30k
Nothing appealing in the US new vehicle market really, even if the prices were 25% less. Automakers have lost their design mojo & creative vision in favor of stupid tech-bloat & consumer gimmicks. Meanwhile, dealerships are more crooked than ever, & the typical American worker is being paid about half of what they need to qualify & live as middle-class. What could go wrong?
Bring back the 1977 Impala!
Mazda!
@@donhebel1011 I like Mazda, but won't buy a vehicle with cylinder-deactivation, stop/start or a turbo engine. Plus, like most modern automakers they use 100% direct-injection engines instead of a smarter mix of both direct & port injection working together.
I bought a 2015 Mazda CX-5 in 2014. It has NEVER been in the shop for repairs, only oil changes and other maintenance. I passed the car on to my son, and it's still very reliable for him.
Our 1993 Nissan Altima was still running but the timing chain broke after 200k miles
EV's are essentially useless where I live in northern Michigan...winter subzero temps cut range in half and there is no charging infrastructure here to speak of. Maybe in a large metro area but not here...
Would you recommend a hybrid vehicle?
You are not their market yet ,
As you said it , there's no infrastructure for it .
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We also thought the same , while we are urban dwellers .
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But with gas prices going up , and steady up ,
With our HOME charging ,
We pay a
bit under 3 cents/km ,
While gas cost us 15 cents/km .
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Been testing in cold canadian winter ,
When temp is lower than zero celcius ,( around -15+/- ° celcius ) ,
the battery loses a 2 % in 10 hours .
EVs batteries don't like the Southern heat either
My cousin has a Rivian RT1 in northern Michigan and loves it.
@@mooncow5493 ,
Thank you for the tip .
Was planning a road trip to SW , this may & june .
Have to account for that too .
Thanks again .
Glad to see you differentiate between real cars and SUV shopping carts.
Why would you want to buy a EV, basically a mobile phone on wheels..disposable after a few years, with no resale value..
Then don’t buy one.
@@jimmy5634LOL! You bought one, didn't you? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
STOP selling crap with CVT transmissions!
Imagine, a $55,000 Infinity SUV with a CVT….well it’s real, it’s not going to sell much.
My experience with a CVT was excellent. It was a 2011 Suzuki SX4 and when I finally (and reluctantly) said goodbye after 13 years and 345,000km it was the engine that lost compression and was uneconomical to replace. Never any CVT issues. I test drove a Nissan in 2010 with their third generation CVT and wasn't impressed, but Suzuki was really robust. I'm very sorry Suzuki pulled out of North America. I'd certainly consider buying from them again.
My Outback has a CVT. No problems at 140,000 miles
@@tonyfair487 what for the typical Subaru head gasket to go
@hugoglenn9741 They took care of that problem 20 years ago.
Nissan rubbish. Nissan are being bailed out by honda as they are broke.
Prices are a combination of unreasonable labor rates, parts, and dealer costs related to NEW dealer showrooms that alledgedly attract customers.
hello!!!! i saw another video x days back.... lets say the title of this video is right... the other video was mentioning how the auto dealerships WONT release cars for lower $ price tag they want more $ gone away are days where a new car was $26,000 they now want you to to look at new cars at $36,000 and if you want little improvements that price tag is now $40,000 nowhere near the $25,000 so they de alerships only have themselves to blame for to many cars in stock..good job guys
Excellent presentation. I think you have it perfectly.
If I were an automotive executive, I would direct my teams to make a significantly cheaper, yet more reliable, and environmentally friendly car. This car would need a key to drive, and to lock it. It would have buttons on the dashboard so anyone in the family can easily drive it. It would be designed such that if the car had damage in an accident, it would be easier and cheaper to repair and replace body parts. Do away with pricey options. The average citizen cannot spend $60,000 (CAD) for their family car. The average person cannot go to work in a $90,000 pick up truck.
Yeah, but the problem is this makes sense and the carmakers , by their actions, don't seem to have much - if any.
Nobody would buy it. There are relatively cheap and basic cars on the market, they sell poorly.