Yes!! I found out about this too late. I mentioned it in the video, but I’ll pin your comment cause I’m sure some people will miss it as the video is a bit long. Thanks for sharing 😊
Again. I mean… second video I watch on your channel and DAMN. I think what I like the most is the organization of your videos. 100k subs soon for sure!
1 hour to come within 1 second of an expert lap without any prior track knowledge is incredible. Those are goals i hope to hit by the end of each week of racing, even going into those weeks with some track knowledge.
This is the second time this channel was offered to me in my feed and I really like the content. Especially this video introduced a new info to me so you have me (= like + subscribe). Thanks :)
Great video. I use VRS and load the pro lap as a reference car and that seems to give me the most valuable practice time but I think this could help me even more. Going to give it a shot!
Good video. Ideally the game itself would offer training modes. Say, driving one corner or sequence in a loop, so you need not get back around to try again. Take the corner, complete the exit and zap back to the approach of same corner. A ghost car projected in front of your best effort for a section would be nice, with it going red for braking and green for throttle, or having a slider left to right making it very visible somehow. Multiple visualisations of the ghost can be considered. Even having the expert lap to copy. Seeing it brake, steer in and throttle, plus its line being left on the track. Imagine seeing the ghost car's yaw reflected through tire tracks, like in Trackmania when the car is sliding. Now if you are for instance a standard amount, 1 seconds or 0.5 seconds behind the ghost/expert approaching the corner, you could see throughout that you're losing/gaining, and where. It's of course possible to gain, but at what cost? The AI coach could encourage focusing on an early and clean exit because of the long full throttle sections after.
I gave it a shot yesterday, same track but in the Pcup. I had raced it before but I was sliding all over the place in the Pcup. I really like it, its nice to have instant feed back from the telemetry trace and little nuggets of what you did wrong. I also went through some of the training camp section and there is mini games to help you build muscle memory for your brake foot. I'll end up using this in the future.
@@cpanic1153 Eh, minigames are nice to get a feel for what percentage youre at. If you're a seasoned racer sure, skip the mini games but if you're learning new pedals, it helps. Overlays are super nice though.
I’ve been using the paid version of this for several months now, also with SFL, and it’s absolutely worth it. I will offer a couple of things: the real value is in the overlays. Being able to instantly see what speed you should be carrying through a corner, how hard and when to brake, which gear to be in, etc… is a massive time saver when learning a track. Later, when you’ve gotten all of the “easy” time, it’s super easy to see where you are losing those last few tenths just by glancing at the overlays. I keep speed and braking overlays open all the time. Now (as of last week) you can also load custom or community submitted laps. The voice coach is largely still just a gimmick - it doesn’t tell you anything you can’t get by glancing at the overlays. The GUI is also a mess but the benefits are still huge. Best iracing companion app out there period.
I have a difficult time tuning in to the voice, and when I do, it can be a little confusing as to what corner the AI is referring to sometimes. I use VR, and have had difficulty getting the overlays to show up in my headset. My problems can be resolved over time, but I am a bit frustrated with it at the moment.
Not sure why you say they only support fixed series? It will work with anything. You also shouldn’t change the reference lap, IMO, until you need one that’s faster than the default. Those laps are often goofy, setup dependent, or are race laps with other cars.
Great video thank you. Would you overall recommend trying this or Virtual Racing School telemetry (you mentioned in previous video that we have 4 free hours per week to use the feature). Would like to hear your thoughts. Thank you
I tried it some months ago, and i found it usedull but with some bugs still. Seems it have improved a lot. Question Lorenzo: does it remember overlay position now, or so you have to set them every time? Thanks for you sharing!! ❤
I tested this back in the beta days, and my main problem was that using it for F1 23, there was no reference whatsoever to what i was been compared with in terms of setup. Therefore "you are breaking earlier/later" didnt make much sense if not with the same setup of application. Has that been somehow fixed / gapped?
What about different conditions and cars variability? When I tested the beta version it was comparing against another model of car, also doesn't account for air temp or track conditions (like fast or even wet). This was acc. Turned me off personally.
Yes - the track conditions comparison is a bit limited. I compared using the variables shown in the video, but not all variables were known about the expert lap. This is why I would suggest to not get too focused on copying the expert lap exactly, but rather to use it as a reference to solidify your own driving.
Can you delay the telemetry? So you aren't too focus on it while driving, and get the feedback after the turn. What I'm feeling(watching the vid) is the same as polishing a car, doing a pattern is good but when using a pattern, the mind isn't focused on "perfecting" the paint/whats happening to the paint.
This is a great point! From what I saw, I don’t think that is a possibility as of now. What helped me a lot was to look at the telemetry after the corner. It’s much easier that way to tell, at a glance, if I braked too late/too early/too much/too little and fix that in the next lap
@@Mogzilla86 for now, the coach focuses on supported officials and only fixed setup ones. You can train tracks up to one week ahead from the current, and any week in the past season. So for example if your league race is GT3 at Road Atlanta, and GT3 fixed (officials) raced at RA in week 3, you could use that as reference. But that’s only if the official has already raced in that track. Still, you’d have the problem that you’d be comparing to a fixed setup race. Not sure if your league is running fixed setups
There is! You need to log in, download the app, and you’ll be able to see the free tier. I was able to see it even without downloading the app, not sure why that’s changed now. Maybe it’s a regional thing
@@Gallifreii-games There is! You need to log in, download the app, and you’ll be able to see the free tier. I was able to see it even without downloading the app, not sure why that’s changed now. Maybe it’s a regional thing
I went to audio mixer on windows and turned iracing volume down to like 50%. Check your mixer too as your system might have turned trophi.ai down by default!
Its really unfortunate that you had no idea how to use the app before you recorded a video about it. I ended up turning it off because you were just fumbling around and not understanding what each function does. I get that the average user will have to learn it also. But we as RUclips followers are trying to watch videos to learn the program, not watch someone just bounce around with no clue. You didn't do this program or yourself any favors with this video.
@@LDFR thank you for the answer, I actually created an account, but only 7 days trial with credit card wall is available, I'm in Germany so maybe it's a regional feature?
You need to turn off after corner feedback tips. Then acclimatization will work properly
Yes!! I found out about this too late. I mentioned it in the video, but I’ll pin your comment cause I’m sure some people will miss it as the video is a bit long. Thanks for sharing 😊
And where do we do that please?
The alpha launch had me interested but still fell short of a paid membership. Your video definitely got me interested in the trial.
The thumbnail is a masterpiece.
Thanks mate 😂 AI may have helped with that as well 🤖
I clicked on the video just because of it.
Again. I mean… second video I watch on your channel and DAMN.
I think what I like the most is the organization of your videos. 100k subs soon for sure!
Thank you so much mate, appreciate the love!
1 hour to come within 1 second of an expert lap without any prior track knowledge is incredible. Those are goals i hope to hit by the end of each week of racing, even going into those weeks with some track knowledge.
This is the second time this channel was offered to me in my feed and I really like the content. Especially this video introduced a new info to me so you have me (= like + subscribe). Thanks :)
Love to hear that, thanks!!
Sounds like a big help when you don't have much time due to IRL stuff. Will give it a try.
It is!
Great video. I use VRS and load the pro lap as a reference car and that seems to give me the most valuable practice time but I think this could help me even more. Going to give it a shot!
Let me know how it goes!
Good video.
Ideally the game itself would offer training modes. Say, driving one corner or sequence in a loop, so you need not get back around to try again. Take the corner, complete the exit and zap back to the approach of same corner. A ghost car projected in front of your best effort for a section would be nice, with it going red for braking and green for throttle, or having a slider left to right making it very visible somehow. Multiple visualisations of the ghost can be considered. Even having the expert lap to copy. Seeing it brake, steer in and throttle, plus its line being left on the track. Imagine seeing the ghost car's yaw reflected through tire tracks, like in Trackmania when the car is sliding.
Now if you are for instance a standard amount, 1 seconds or 0.5 seconds behind the ghost/expert approaching the corner, you could see throughout that you're losing/gaining, and where. It's of course possible to gain, but at what cost? The AI coach could encourage focusing on an early and clean exit because of the long full throttle sections after.
It has that feature, search active reset
This sounds right up my street. I'm at that point where it's becoming trickier to see where I'm losing time.
It is useful for that! Another tool I would highly recommend for that specific purpose is the Garage 61 telemetry analyzer. And that one is free!
I gave it a shot yesterday, same track but in the Pcup. I had raced it before but I was sliding all over the place in the Pcup. I really like it, its nice to have instant feed back from the telemetry trace and little nuggets of what you did wrong. I also went through some of the training camp section and there is mini games to help you build muscle memory for your brake foot. I'll end up using this in the future.
Awesome!!
The mini games are a gimmick. The overlays are where it’s at
@@cpanic1153 Eh, minigames are nice to get a feel for what percentage youre at. If you're a seasoned racer sure, skip the mini games but if you're learning new pedals, it helps. Overlays are super nice though.
I’ve been using the paid version of this for several months now, also with SFL, and it’s absolutely worth it. I will offer a couple of things: the real value is in the overlays. Being able to instantly see what speed you should be carrying through a corner, how hard and when to brake, which gear to be in, etc… is a massive time saver when learning a track. Later, when you’ve gotten all of the “easy” time, it’s super easy to see where you are losing those last few tenths just by glancing at the overlays. I keep speed and braking overlays open all the time. Now (as of last week) you can also load custom or community submitted laps.
The voice coach is largely still just a gimmick - it doesn’t tell you anything you can’t get by glancing at the overlays. The GUI is also a mess but the benefits are still huge. Best iracing companion app out there period.
@@cpanic1153 thanks for this comment, this is very helpful! I’ll probably end up working towards the same approach as you, it sounds very logical!
the nice about is that it gives you kind „career mode“ 😃
True!
A line on the track where you braked previously and where the expert braked would be nice, but the game needs to facilitate such development.
That would be awesome!
Good video dude! I just signed up and gonna try this as soon as I finish up my real life stuff.
Glad you liked it man :)
great video! Really got me thinking about getting this tool
Great, thanks man :)
Interesting. I'll have to sign up and give this a try and see what it does for me.
Great vid think I shall be ditching my coach dave set ups and subbing this.
Thanks mate glad you found it useful!
I have a difficult time tuning in to the voice, and when I do, it can be a little confusing as to what corner the AI is referring to sometimes. I use VR, and have had difficulty getting the overlays to show up in my headset. My problems can be resolved over time, but I am a bit frustrated with it at the moment.
it does take some getting used to!
Not sure why you say they only support fixed series? It will work with anything.
You also shouldn’t change the reference lap, IMO, until you need one that’s faster than the default. Those laps are often goofy, setup dependent, or are race laps with other cars.
That's info that I got from their website. Maybe I got it wrong!
Great video thank you. Would you overall recommend trying this or Virtual Racing School telemetry (you mentioned in previous video that we have 4 free hours per week to use the feature). Would like to hear your thoughts. Thank you
I tried it some months ago, and i found it usedull but with some bugs still. Seems it have improved a lot. Question Lorenzo: does it remember overlay position now, or so you have to set them every time? Thanks for you sharing!! ❤
Hey Rene! It doesn’t remember overlay position, which kind of sucks (or at least I haven’t figured out how to do it)! I hope they implement that.
@@LDFR thanks! Yes it was on their to do list back then, so sure they will some day :-)
Would this work for a VR user?
Thanks for video. Do you know if has coach options to oval tracks/series? Thanks!
I haven't tried yet, but I'll check!
@@LDFR Thanks, but I saw oval series hasnt ter there. I wonder If that app is superior compare to training with racing line enable 🤔
Are those feedbacks given verbally can be found logged in as text to read them after ending the practice session?
Yes!
I tested this back in the beta days, and my main problem was that using it for F1 23, there was no reference whatsoever to what i was been compared with in terms of setup. Therefore "you are breaking earlier/later" didnt make much sense if not with the same setup of application. Has that been somehow fixed / gapped?
Very cool man. Thanks for that! ;)
You’re welcome Paul!
Great video mate.
@@BobbyBobby-d7h thanks mate glad you enjoyed :)
Are you able to run SimLab at the same time?
Yes!
Does it work with VR?
I'm not sure!
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Great Vid. Very interesting!!
Glad you enjoyed it!
“Instead of saying brake 15 minutes later…” 😮
*meters, whoops!
Is it working with other languages like french?
I believe it does have additional languages, yes!
What about different conditions and cars variability? When I tested the beta version it was comparing against another model of car, also doesn't account for air temp or track conditions (like fast or even wet). This was acc. Turned me off personally.
Yes - the track conditions comparison is a bit limited. I compared using the variables shown in the video, but not all variables were known about the expert lap. This is why I would suggest to not get too focused on copying the expert lap exactly, but rather to use it as a reference to solidify your own driving.
This is awesome!
Glad you liked the video man :)
Any cupom for discount ?
Can i use this app in official races?
Very good video
Thank you!
Can you delay the telemetry? So you aren't too focus on it while driving, and get the feedback after the turn.
What I'm feeling(watching the vid) is the same as polishing a car, doing a pattern is good but when using a pattern, the mind isn't focused on "perfecting" the paint/whats happening to the paint.
This is a great point! From what I saw, I don’t think that is a possibility as of now. What helped me a lot was to look at the telemetry after the corner. It’s much easier that way to tell, at a glance, if I braked too late/too early/too much/too little and fix that in the next lap
Does this only work for officials then, like if I have a league race at road Atlanta but it isn't in the upcoming officials I can't use it?
@@Mogzilla86 for now, the coach focuses on supported officials and only fixed setup ones. You can train tracks up to one week ahead from the current, and any week in the past season.
So for example if your league race is GT3 at Road Atlanta, and GT3 fixed (officials) raced at RA in week 3, you could use that as reference. But that’s only if the official has already raced in that track.
Still, you’d have the problem that you’d be comparing to a fixed setup race. Not sure if your league is running fixed setups
@@LDFR Ah gotcha ok might be good some weeks then. I only normally run fixed for a more even playing field :)
Nice video! Too bad the have a line for applications :(
They do? I didn’t have any problems signing up!
This video came out two days ago, and there is no longer a free tier...
There is! You need to log in, download the app, and you’ll be able to see the free tier. I was able to see it even without downloading the app, not sure why that’s changed now. Maybe it’s a regional thing
@@LDFR Yeah once I downloaded it, I did see the free tier. Very strange user experience xD
They appear to have removed the free tier :(
@@Gallifreii-games There is! You need to log in, download the app, and you’ll be able to see the free tier. I was able to see it even without downloading the app, not sure why that’s changed now. Maybe it’s a regional thing
Sadly it's 100$ per year for cheapest option. Not free anymore
I just looked. No free option.
If you log in and download the app, the free version shows up in the app!
I think he's overlapping the track guide with driving tips, both at the same time. Maybe its a bug
Yea I think he has driving tips enabled while acclimating... yea he just went in the settings and "after corner tips" was checked
Check pinned comment! :)
I have the AI up to 100% volume and can barely hear that shit. How do you get it to be so loud
I went to audio mixer on windows and turned iracing volume down to like 50%. Check your mixer too as your system might have turned trophi.ai down by default!
Too bad it won't support RaceRoom and older F1 titles.
Too chatty 😆
Yeah he loves to chat 😂
Its really unfortunate that you had no idea how to use the app before you recorded a video about it. I ended up turning it off because you were just fumbling around and not understanding what each function does. I get that the average user will have to learn it also. But we as RUclips followers are trying to watch videos to learn the program, not watch someone just bounce around with no clue. You didn't do this program or yourself any favors with this video.
@@bigjim4x thanks for the feedback Jim! :)
lol
free plan is gone already in their site...
If you make an account you should be able to use it for free. The paid upgrade is optional :)
@@LDFR thank you for the answer, I actually created an account, but only 7 days trial with credit card wall is available, I'm in Germany so maybe it's a regional feature?
@@sonecabr wtf! Maybe it is a regional thing. Try to ask on their discord, they are super helpful there!
@@LDFR thank you!
@@sonecabrupdate: If you log in and download the app, the free version shows up in the app!
So basically it's a narrated ideal line. Lame.
Did you actually watch the video?
Good question! 😄