The Corrupt World Of Food Politics | Marion Nestle

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  • Опубликовано: 24 дек 2024

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  • @LewisHemmings-cm3ov
    @LewisHemmings-cm3ov 5 месяцев назад +2634

    I'm astonished to learn Marion is 87 years old. Not only does she have the appearance of somebody 20 years younger, but she also has the lucidity and clarity of mind of somebody half of her age!

    • @enzofernandes8249
      @enzofernandes8249 5 месяцев назад +197

      That's the power of living a healthy life!!

    • @LewisHemmings-cm3ov
      @LewisHemmings-cm3ov 5 месяцев назад +133

      Very true! She is a great example of the benefits of healthy eating

    • @andrewfriedrichs9340
      @andrewfriedrichs9340 5 месяцев назад +140

      She is older than you know who and the other one, but so much more coherent than either.

    • @utubinator
      @utubinator 5 месяцев назад +30

      If only Joe Biden was half as well aged

    • @LewisHemmings-cm3ov
      @LewisHemmings-cm3ov 5 месяцев назад +63

      Guys, guys, no politics 😅

  • @darthplagueis13
    @darthplagueis13 5 месяцев назад +5825

    A nutritionist being named Nestle is some heavy duty cosmic irony.

    • @anathardayaldar
      @anathardayaldar 5 месяцев назад +299

      I watched this entire video twice. Every point she made was AGAINST corporations, and their lobbying, marketing, profit motive.
      I guess that's one more example of don't judge a person by their name.

    • @ilum3345
      @ilum3345 5 месяцев назад +385

      @@anathardayaldarhe wasn’t judging anything bro he was just stating something he thought was ironic

    • @cassiereroni
      @cassiereroni 5 месяцев назад +14

      @@ilum3345 I think they meant corporate names and their lobbying, marketing all in the name of profit for them while consumers get no "profit" from them. Ex: "corporate names and their lobbying, marketing all in the name of profit" and not an individual person per se.
      I could be wrong but that's the way I read it.

    • @DasUhMAZIN
      @DasUhMAZIN 5 месяцев назад +38

      ⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@cassiereroni​​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠you could be, and are, wrong. ilum3345 was simply stating the fact that the OP wasn’t making any judgments at all. They were simply stating something that they thought was ironic.

    • @cassiereroni
      @cassiereroni 5 месяцев назад +5

      @@DasUhMAZIN You're right I could be wrong as I said. But that's the way I read it to mean.

  • @CHEFPKR
    @CHEFPKR 5 месяцев назад +1093

    She's 87? She's amazing.

    • @Towkeeyoh
      @Towkeeyoh 5 месяцев назад +10

      Hello Chef! Great to see you here!

    • @JustAnotherSomeDude
      @JustAnotherSomeDude 5 месяцев назад +8

      Chef know his nutrition, keep it up man 😂

  • @bh3550
    @bh3550 4 месяца назад +248

    I like that Dr. Mike will consistently ask “what evidence” or “what proof”
    It’s a way to check the guests from just saying whatever they want, while also just getting more in depth detail on the topic. Well done

    • @CaptainCorobo
      @CaptainCorobo 4 месяца назад +11

      And she just keeps saying "o there's tons of proof" without actually giving an answer

    • @braverfoxx
      @braverfoxx 4 месяца назад +21

      ​@@CaptainCoroboif you go to her blog you can see it's nothing but proof. Not sure if you're expecting her to quote every research paper on the fly for a podcast but that would be wildly boring and a waste of time. She's providing the information, now go find out the reality.

    • @maximiliankullmann7802
      @maximiliankullmann7802 4 месяца назад +6

      ​@@braverfoxxThe thing is, we are not on her block. We are listening to her in this interview, and it would help greatly if she would give examples about some of these studies, and not just talking about how procest or unnatural equals bad.

    • @bip6338
      @bip6338 3 месяца назад +5

      The evidence for her claims are not only overwhelming, but widely covered now in no small part due to her efforts. Very simple google searches on the effects of marketing and subliminal advertising on purchasing decisions and how policies restricting them also effect purchasing decisions will very quickly show that it is no longer a contested idea but a generally accepted truth

    • @aliciabarrie7229
      @aliciabarrie7229 2 месяца назад

      Processed*​@@maximiliankullmann7802

  • @GrantRobBradley
    @GrantRobBradley 5 месяцев назад +253

    Dr. Mike continues to do the work I expected the media to do. This is the real work. We need more of this! Real conversations, non-politicized science education. Thank you

    • @PennyBrentonCarney
      @PennyBrentonCarney 4 месяца назад +3

      Listen to interviews with Robert F Kennedy Jr. He feels very similarly about the food corporations.

    • @RandomName0316
      @RandomName0316 2 месяца назад

      ​@PennyBrentonCarney RFK should have been our next President.
      I'm hoping he runs again in 2028.

  • @williamc4221
    @williamc4221 5 месяцев назад +4359

    It is good to see an actual nutritional researcher discussing nutrition rather than a chiropractor or orthopedic surgeon, etc.

    • @nickbuis3307
      @nickbuis3307 5 месяцев назад +86

      But yet the information from the latter isn't too far off, sure there are a couple of wack jobs but all in all following "their" advice we'll probably be much better than going with the governmental guidelines.

    • @Anikat
      @Anikat 5 месяцев назад +33

      It's probably these other professions sending the patients TO the nutritionists....surgeons, physiotherapists & co. see the consequences of poor diet 😅

    • @pumasheen
      @pumasheen 5 месяцев назад

      @@nickbuis3307 but those wack jobs have millions of followers. And the thing they have in common with governmental guidelines is they’re influenced by food industry money

    • @TarkasBane
      @TarkasBane 5 месяцев назад +14

      @@nickbuis3307 Who writes the governmental guidelines?

    • @nickbuis3307
      @nickbuis3307 5 месяцев назад

      @@TarkasBane Google it.

  • @NezuChan
    @NezuChan 5 месяцев назад +3902

    If anyone was wondering, she is NOT related to the Nestlés. Thankfully.

    • @kicksnfigs8658
      @kicksnfigs8658 5 месяцев назад +218

      That's what I thought when I saw her name before, How ironic her last name and the one of the biggest Food company have the same spelling just different pronunciation.

    • @PetersonSilva
      @PetersonSilva 5 месяцев назад +25

      Yes, I was wondering hahahahaha

    • @bojassem12
      @bojassem12 5 месяцев назад +18

      It's pronounced differently too

    • @saltiestsiren
      @saltiestsiren 5 месяцев назад +22

      Right, her name isn't pronounced the same though so my suspicion dropped immediately.

    • @Pile_of_carbon
      @Pile_of_carbon 5 месяцев назад +11

      Was looking for a comment on this topic. Good to know.

  • @Mama_Pills
    @Mama_Pills 5 месяцев назад +983

    I’m in ED recovery and the way she talks so joyfully about food as just FOOD and nothing more is really really refreshing and motivating.

    • @jiminsankle5943
      @jiminsankle5943 5 месяцев назад +44

      I’m right there with you and found myself thinking the same thing! As she said, it really is a joyous activity I get to do everyday

    • @lorrax
      @lorrax 5 месяцев назад +25

      Congrats on your recovery

    • @kile1058
      @kile1058 4 месяца назад +21

      congrats on being in recovery and know you have a bunch of internet strangers rooting for you to stay on the journey to actual health 🙏🏻

    • @Oceanmelody88
      @Oceanmelody88 4 месяца назад +14

      You can do it! I used to have a severe eating disorder. At one time I weighed 187 pounds. I now weigh 126. I had an eating disorder on both sides of the spectrum. After I lost weight, I became so afraid of gaining back the weight that I would barely eat any calories. I was causing myself to be really sick. I would end up binge eating because I had just starved myself. So I would yo-yo with my weight. Finally, I went and got myself a nutritionist who taught me about healthy eating. I now have the same mindset with food where I just use it for energy and nothing else

    • @how_to_fit
      @how_to_fit 4 месяца назад +4

      Thank you for sharing and being vulnerable. I pray that your mindset shifts permanently and that you can enjoy food in a healthy way so that it nourishes you and makes you feel genuinely good and whole.

  • @MIZZCTM89
    @MIZZCTM89 5 месяцев назад +41

    I want to be Marion's friend. She seems like such a chill no bs person and I love it. The world needs more people like her.

  • @charliesloan6059
    @charliesloan6059 5 месяцев назад +28

    I enjoy how direct she is in her speech. Her points are clear and easy to understand.

  • @mariaRD
    @mariaRD 5 месяцев назад +1123

    As a nutritionist Marion Nestle is one of my biggest inspirations, food politics is seldomly discussed while too much emphasis is put on the individual without taking into account socioeconomic factors and food lobying, which is the big elephant in the room 👏👏

    • @makaisenki
      @makaisenki 5 месяцев назад

      The massive stockpile of tanks in the police parking garage has to go to sugar. If it's a modern disease that's getting worse keto and/or Fasting usually reverses it.

    • @nostalji93
      @nostalji93 5 месяцев назад +9

      Glad to see that there are still some good idols outs there!

    • @LILJROD90
      @LILJROD90 5 месяцев назад +8

      I agree food politics plays a role but
      At the end of the day people are responsible for their own decisions.
      Obesity=choice

    • @Codacoli
      @Codacoli 5 месяцев назад +4

      Agreed. This is a really important point, I’m glad you brought it up. It’s invasive, from product placements to like you said, food lobbying where they can incredibly influence what’s put in stores or what countries can import.

    • @cedricol
      @cedricol 5 месяцев назад +10

      One cannot change the political system or big food companies in a lifetime, but you can change your own habits with a single decision. It seems like the focus is exactly where it needs to be. When you think you're a victim, and not responsible for your own decisions, you can't make the change you need. In parallel, we do need to change the system too of course, because it's impossible to count on every single individual to make the hard choice.

  • @bmmbooshoot
    @bmmbooshoot 5 месяцев назад +695

    two minutes in and i'm already enamored with how intelligent and well spoken dr. nestle is. that's what a lifetime of research and advocacy gets you.

    • @southcoastinventors6583
      @southcoastinventors6583 5 месяцев назад +3

      To bad it barely helped since it drug companies will ultimately solve the obesity problem.

    • @DroppedBass
      @DroppedBass 5 месяцев назад

      She's a crank, though. Even if her intentions are good.

    • @GGladius
      @GGladius 5 месяцев назад

      @@southcoastinventors6583 It will still take some time. And their research is also valuable to these drug companies. Nothing "too bad" about it.

    • @bmmbooshoot
      @bmmbooshoot 5 месяцев назад

      @@southcoastinventors6583 even if they do, there is still value in good foundational nutrition and understanding of what food does to the body.

  • @Damiancontursi
    @Damiancontursi 5 месяцев назад +717

    I'm from Argentina and here they passed a couple of laws that some people complain but are good overall.
    The one I think is more important is "Ley the etiquetado frontal" or "front labeling law" where you have to put a big logo at the front of your packaging saying when it has too much of something. For example, "excess sugars", "excess salt" "excess calories" "excess fats" etc.
    At first people complain saying it was a stupid law because people "knew better" and "you can just look the nutritional facts". Then people started seeing how many products where in fact not good for you, for example lots of "light" versions of common products still had a lot of calories and sugar. In time some brands had to change their formulas to actually make them "light".
    The other one is that you can't use "celebrities" on packaging, so you don't have people buying messi's lays potato chips for example. You also can't use anymore the famous rabbit from nesquick or the toucan from froot loops or any of those cartoons. This one is specially good for children since they often just want it for the branding.

    • @katjarozantseva8069
      @katjarozantseva8069 5 месяцев назад +13

      @@Damiancontursi that sounds good, but does this law make to write “excess sugar” on a pack of sugar and “excess fats” on a pack of butter? What is excess?

    • @Damiancontursi
      @Damiancontursi 5 месяцев назад +15

      @@katjarozantseva8069 I haven't actually read the specifics so I don't know what are the limits or how they categorized things. I'll look it up and share it.

    • @R0gueNinja
      @R0gueNinja 5 месяцев назад +49

      Those laws sound like a step in the right direction. Increasing public awareness about problematic food contents is a great thing if done right.
      I love the idea of removing cartoons from unhealthy food packaging directed at kids. That type of marketing is unethical and leads to poor health outcomes.
      Of course, food companies have many other ways of marketing to kids. Still, it’s amazing to hear that your government is taking a stand to improve public health, even though I’m sure there was a lot of push back.

    • @MetallicAlmonds
      @MetallicAlmonds 5 месяцев назад

      What would be great is if the cartoon characters could migrate to the produce section, or even on bags of healthier snacks or like frozen vegetables! I would have loved that even as a kid 😂 ​@@R0gueNinja

    • @mizushirokanon9174
      @mizushirokanon9174 5 месяцев назад +17

      Wow, that's great laws, I would dream about that. Also showing big numbers on front amount of calories in the package, not on 100 grams would be great also

  • @seriously00wtf
    @seriously00wtf 5 месяцев назад +81

    she reminds me so much of my grandma: smart, logical, sweet and funny. i love her!

  • @nikaylabautista7887
    @nikaylabautista7887 5 месяцев назад +41

    87?! This woman is so knowledgeable and amazing. This was such a good interview!

  • @Luumus
    @Luumus 5 месяцев назад +526

    I love her, she's so cheerful yet knowledgeable and well informed. I would have loved to have her as a Professor, her classes must have been fantastic

  • @danperlman3185
    @danperlman3185 5 месяцев назад +351

    Im 64 and have been following Marion Nestle since the early 1980s ... She is a savior....the single most important thing shes taught me which ive followed the last 40 years is to read the ingredients list on all foods items.... Its surprising to see over the decades how few people read the ingredient list before putting the item in their shopping cart. I attribute alot of my exceptional health and youthful appearance to Marion Nestle. Fabulous interview...

    • @southcoastinventors6583
      @southcoastinventors6583 5 месяцев назад +4

      Why bother just don't buy stuff from a box

    • @TrongNguyen-lq8gd
      @TrongNguyen-lq8gd 5 месяцев назад +6

      It could either prove that citizens are believing in the governments and scientist that protect them from bad foods or exhausted from working cycle to think of the value of their food. But I think lose our ability to protect ourselves and solely rely on entities for our food safety or any type of safety could be wrong.

    • @mynuttyme
      @mynuttyme 5 месяцев назад

      What do you look for in the ingredients tho? And where can I "follow" her?

    • @Aliyah_666
      @Aliyah_666 4 месяца назад

      I used to cook as a sous chef and that armed me with very useful information. I can make a healthier meal from scratch than trusting frozen or canned ultra processed foods.

  • @kutenno3763
    @kutenno3763 5 месяцев назад +558

    One thing I would recommend for your podcast notes, add in what your guest references so those of us who are more curious can do our own reading and research. I can Google the studies but it would incentive myself and others to look up the info while watching/listening. Personally, I love learning more every day and it would help.

    • @KristinaLee-e8p
      @KristinaLee-e8p 5 месяцев назад +28

      Yes!!! I really appreciated on the recent podcast about trans care when the person would say who did a study because it made it easier to look it up. With this one it was all "a study" or "there's tons of research." I wish there were more specifics in the interview or an easy way to find at least some of the studies mentioned.

    • @neitha48
      @neitha48 3 месяца назад

      Yes!

    • @carlr458
      @carlr458 3 месяца назад

      Even if it's cut in in post, it would be helpful. One of the best interviews I've ever seen was a normal interview intercut with explained details from a video call after the fact.

  • @Julia_8605
    @Julia_8605 4 месяца назад +93

    I am a person that is overweight and telling me that it's "okay" to be overweight does NOT help me in any way, so I'm so glad you guys are talking about this issue and are spreading awareness about the food industries❤

    • @Elizabeth-nr8vo
      @Elizabeth-nr8vo 4 месяца назад +6

      Every body is different. You do you. I’ll stay in my lane.

    • @modkip25
      @modkip25 3 месяца назад +4

      No one is evil for being fat. Is that really such a difficult concept to understand?

    • @ariaurre
      @ariaurre 3 месяца назад +1

      A person is better being slightly overweight than with an eating disorder. What helps you might not help everyone.

    • @KatMoore-ih6mw
      @KatMoore-ih6mw 3 месяца назад

      ​@@modkip25our brains have evolved to look at those people as members of our tribe that are taking more than their fair share tho so it's not evil but there is a negative association with being fat. It's an evolved thing tho, so nobody can change that that's in our brains!

    • @Loool_7656
      @Loool_7656 Месяц назад +1

      @@modkip25
      Nobody says being fat is evil, and most ppl agree on the fact that bullying or discriminating someone based on their body is wrong (or at least I do). But at the same time, it's not healthy to have a too high body fat precentage.

  • @kylee5560
    @kylee5560 5 месяцев назад +75

    Social worker chiming in here. While I think it's an interesting idea that putting restrictions on what people can purchase through EBT can reduce consumption of UPFs, if we don't first address the issue of food deserts and food insecurity, this is not going to be effective and just ensures more people will go hungry. It's all systemic. Self-determination is also critical for human thriving, and if we're restricting what people can use their social funding for, it threatens that. We need to lend focus to empowerment and knowledge, and this has to take place at foundational levels, i.e.: teaching schoolchildren how to grow and care for their food and how to cook it.

    • @IsItMe023
      @IsItMe023 4 месяца назад

      @kylee5560 Every time I have heard politicians talk about limiting what can be purchased on SNAP it is because they think certain items are too good for poor people to be able to eat. Shellfish comes to mind. Even though it used to be the food of the poor, because people now associate lobster with the wealthy, politicians, especially on the right, don't think that people on assistance should be able to eat it.

    • @skilletfan17
      @skilletfan17 4 месяца назад +14

      Ironically, you’re operating on the assumption that people receiving these services are too stupid to know what’s healthy and what’s not, generally speaking. Empowerment and knowledge will do very little to help. What we need is the government subsidizing actually healthy foods. Money is the king incentivizer. If they make healthy foods cheaper, it’ll go a long way overall.

    • @happymamaof5803
      @happymamaof5803 4 месяца назад +9

      If the government restricts what SNAP can be spent on, stores that depend on that money will adapt.

    • @garlicgirl3149
      @garlicgirl3149 4 месяца назад +2

      And how in working class areas the number of fast food joints is uncanning!! I dare people to drive through a low middle to working class area and count the number of fast food restaurants.

    • @Bandwagons
      @Bandwagons 4 месяца назад +6

      Thank you. I lived in an area where I can get any type of fast food or convenience stores that I want, but getting to a grocery store involved multiple bus lines or a 5 mile bike ride each way. So much of this conversation assumes people have options that they just don't have at a practical level.

  • @laurag502
    @laurag502 5 месяцев назад +2584

    she’s 87!! wow! i’ll have what she’s having! my notepad is OUT

    • @nickbuis3307
      @nickbuis3307 5 месяцев назад +48

      @@mymetaljourney The brain needs saturated fats. Sure, it can make its own, but I would rather supply it with good quality fats.

    • @mymetaljourney
      @mymetaljourney 5 месяцев назад

      @@nickbuis3307 I did say, not too much

    • @patricklinsley3676
      @patricklinsley3676 5 месяцев назад +122

      Not too hard, eat a diet of mostly whole foods, staying out of the sun too much, become a nutritionist academic with tenure at a major university, exercise, etc something most people do anyways.

    • @paperburn
      @paperburn 5 месяцев назад +54

      Just like mom said, eat your vegetables, nothing in excess.

    • @kyol420
      @kyol420 5 месяцев назад +18

      Good genetics.

  • @AndrewLugo
    @AndrewLugo 5 месяцев назад +435

    Dr Mike I would love to see a limited series of videos with Dr Nestle where you show a real person's grocery haul and point out the good, point out the bad and offer real alternatives.

    • @voidoflife9372
      @voidoflife9372 5 месяцев назад +18

      Seconded! Sounds cool

    • @skylardaniels3791
      @skylardaniels3791 5 месяцев назад +20

      The jist of it is, there aren't good alternatives. As soon as we have a good alternative, it gets bought out and the recipes are changed to make the product cheaper while charging you the same, getting in on massive profit margins. You can't as easily control profits on produce, whole grains, etc, so it's not marketed and pushed, but you can make it healthy.

    • @PollyBunch
      @PollyBunch 4 месяца назад +14

      Great idea but they’re not mentioning brand names for a reason. They can talk about the industry as a whole but any deviation from that will spring lawsuits faster than you can blink.

    • @Katjespukeko
      @Katjespukeko 4 месяца назад +7

      Just stop buying prepared foods, instead focus on unprocessed stuff. Vegetables, fruit, nuts,…

    • @silverpurkat
      @silverpurkat 3 месяца назад +1

      YES!!!!

  • @sarahe2274
    @sarahe2274 5 месяцев назад +454

    I'll never forget when I learned about food brands targeting schools to build brand loyalty early. The fact that they make, let's use as an example fruit roll ups, that have lower sugar and calories so that they can fit into school regulations for health criteria for the food that can be served to children, in the hopes that kids out of school will ask their parents for fruit rollups that are chock full of sugar. And food companies have reward systems with schools so that if a school buys 'x' amount of their product that the school can redeem points for, let's say new ovens for their kitchen.

    • @NothingXemnas
      @NothingXemnas 5 месяцев назад +29

      "Deregulate the market", right? "The market is self-regulating". LOL. LMAO, even.

    • @MichaelGray-dq7gy
      @MichaelGray-dq7gy 5 месяцев назад +36

      That's fucked. They also have an entirely different recipe for almost every junk food, that is sold outside of the US, with way less sugar and no dyes etc

    • @sarahe2274
      @sarahe2274 5 месяцев назад +21

      @@MichaelGray-dq7gy also, I'm jealous of foreign snacks. Things taste so much nicer without all the unnecessary sugar.

    • @reeeyou
      @reeeyou 5 месяцев назад +11

      @@MichaelGray-dq7gythe food dyes are very iffy to me tbh. I’ve watched so many content creators from the us like buzzfeed, try guys etc using some funny ridiculous recipes with food dyes that are banned in my country. Of course the target audience is primarily US but i found it abit strange that noone commented on the amount of food dyes they used. It waspretty unreal to me.

    • @vanessamoore5621
      @vanessamoore5621 5 месяцев назад +2

      😮

  • @annamarial2960
    @annamarial2960 5 месяцев назад +31

    I remember her from the Supersized documentary. I am recovering from an eating disorder and studying nutrition out of curiosity and passion. She's GREAT. I'll read her blog and books for sure. Thanks dr.Mike ❤

  • @paolapochmann5617
    @paolapochmann5617 4 месяца назад +9

    I just want a whole series of Dr Nestle talking and Dr Mike giggling behind ❤

  • @afonsodealbuquerque4115
    @afonsodealbuquerque4115 5 месяцев назад +165

    Thank you dr Mike for giving visibility to Marion Nestle work to a younger audience.

  • @TheKyPerson
    @TheKyPerson 5 месяцев назад +202

    I'm 73. When I was a kid obesity was very, very rare. When men got old, they'd get a bit of a belly and the women would get a bit plump but obesity like I see today was not common. When I was young we ate three meals a day usually meat and vegetables. We'd have a dessert too, pie, cake and ice cream. We seldom ate fast food and when we did, the portions were small. But also we were very, very active. We were outside and playing a lot. TV was for evenings and no one was glued to a screen.

    • @AlbertBalbastreMorte
      @AlbertBalbastreMorte 5 месяцев назад +9

      TV for evenings. That makes so much sense, thank you.

    • @j.obrien4990
      @j.obrien4990 5 месяцев назад +28

      I'm in my 60's and recently had a morbidly obese person in his 20s inform me that "back in the day" people didn't eat fruit and vegetables, and they are what made him fat so he was going on an all meat diet... I didn't even know where to start.

    • @tambarker3862
      @tambarker3862 4 месяца назад

      @@j.obrien4990he shall be a very healthy human if he does. He will lose that fat quick!

    • @jasonblack2760
      @jasonblack2760 3 месяца назад +2

      Portion sizes were also probably smaller since food took time to prepare, families were bigger so food portions had to be controlled and people didn’t have enough money so they rationed.

    • @Katjj
      @Katjj 2 месяца назад

      Those days are gone 😢

  • @joannas2533
    @joannas2533 5 месяцев назад +147

    I like what she said about ultraprocessed foods being "pre-digested" so they bypass the normal processing of more natural foods, which would balance out calories spent on it and nutritional absorption - explains it really well!

    • @zualapips1638
      @zualapips1638 5 месяцев назад +21

      I learned this with vegetables. They have a lot of fiber, and that slows down digestion quite a bit, which makes the resulting glucose spike smoother overall.

    • @joannas2533
      @joannas2533 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@zualapips1638 ah! totally makes sense

  • @neilowens2371
    @neilowens2371 5 месяцев назад +38

    Healthy food costs more!!!!, glad someone knowledgeable finally said what I've known all along

    • @PennyBrentonCarney
      @PennyBrentonCarney 4 месяца назад +3

      Maybe they do. But worth it to me. And I save money by not buying junk food or sodas.

    • @nandrew81
      @nandrew81 4 месяца назад +4

      I have to respectfully disagree. Anytime I want to save money, I stop eating out and buy Whole Foods. There may be a slightly more front end cost, but generally meals are smaller and therefore last longer. The savings and health benefits can’t be overstated.

    • @Freshprankstv1
      @Freshprankstv1 4 месяца назад +2

      Eh all my family is broke, most poor ppl don’t buy healthy food Because they think it’s expensive. Do u know how cheap bags of beans, bags of rice, bananas, other veg are? Just excuses

    • @tambarker3862
      @tambarker3862 4 месяца назад +1

      @@Freshprankstv1all,sugar/ carbs. If that’s all you can buy you’ll get real fat real quick.

    • @mqb3gofjzkko7nzx38
      @mqb3gofjzkko7nzx38 3 месяца назад

      @@tambarker3862 I started eating that food and I lost a bunch of weight. My favorite is steel-cut oats and cinnamon for breakfast. It's dirt cheap, low calorie, and it keeps you full for six hours.

  • @spectre-8
    @spectre-8 5 месяцев назад +35

    It’s wild that someone so distinguished and smart and experienced doesn’t have more power in changing the system

    • @PennyBrentonCarney
      @PennyBrentonCarney 4 месяца назад +9

      That’s just how powerful these food corporations are.

    • @Freshprankstv1
      @Freshprankstv1 4 месяца назад +1

      It’s a 2 way street, ppl buy the food because they like it. Everyone knows fruit and veg are healthy for u but give them a choice in a McD cheeseburger and fruit. Which will most ppl choose? Evil corporations vs ppl who don’t see long term.

    • @mqb3gofjzkko7nzx38
      @mqb3gofjzkko7nzx38 3 месяца назад +1

      @@Freshprankstv1 That and the billions in corn subsidies.

    • @williamh5103
      @williamh5103 День назад

      Mmm! She keeps quite! In theory she is involved in the food guidelines that are mostly so wrong for a healthy diet!

  • @Pugs365
    @Pugs365 5 месяцев назад +676

    When I see a "health" article that has "Sponsored" listed anywhere, my BS meter starts going off like a smoke alarm.

    • @ruthpeterson1478
      @ruthpeterson1478 5 месяцев назад +17

      Same! To include any advertised products on social media. No thanks!

    • @chaschuky999
      @chaschuky999 5 месяцев назад +7

      So at completely random intervals and seemingly coming from inside the walls?

    • @lokipokey
      @lokipokey 5 месяцев назад +37

      This channel does not permit any health-oriented ads. Only unrelated products such as clothing or mailing services
      I don't have a problem with the way way Dr Mike does this at all, given the amount of time and money it takes to create his content. But I can see why some people don't like it.
      Just don't think there's a conflict of interest here

    • @wildflower1397
      @wildflower1397 5 месяцев назад +6

      When I see any health food article or video, mine goes off. It's been a long time since I have trusted anything the media says about diet. I want to eat healthy, but everything feels like a fad diet these days.

    • @anathardayaldar
      @anathardayaldar 5 месяцев назад +17

      I didn't see any health related add in this video.
      What you may have seen was the youtube adds forced into videos outside of the channel's control.

  • @kassyanomoshpits
    @kassyanomoshpits 5 месяцев назад +64

    when she dropped "shareholder value movement" that set off a deep dive research and omg. I've been wondering for a while where this mindset of short term profits, infinite growth, and shareholder above all came from and this explains everything and more.

    • @garlicgirl3149
      @garlicgirl3149 4 месяца назад

      It has infiltrated all industries.

  • @GrubbsandWyrm
    @GrubbsandWyrm 5 месяцев назад +115

    Things that have helped me lose weight.
    I always shop the perimeter of the store first and buy most of my food there.
    I follow the mediterranean diet, but i do it on the cheap (sardines, tuna, and mackeral for fish, no expensive meat).
    I buy in season or frozen veggies to keep price down and still get good nutrition.
    Beans and lentils are very filling and cheap. Canned beans with vegfies and spices make a quick soup with little effort.
    Aldi's is a great place for cheese. I eat a LOT of greek salads, and feta cheese and picked veggies, and nuts.
    Something that really helps me is that i'm suspicious of anything on the front of processed food. The front is matketing, the back is legally required info, so the back is facts.
    I replaced spda with water and tea. I drink black coffee and treat coffee with creme as a dessert.
    I watch behavioral science youtube channels instead of diet channels. I didn't lose weight until i stopped linking morality to weight, and instead linked it to habits.
    I switched snacks to veggies and nuts.
    I cook mostly at home, so when i rarely go out i eat whatever i want, except for what raises my blood sugar too high.
    I allow myself sugary treats, but only if i make them from scratch. It takes hours to make them, and it's expensive, so that keeps me from doing it without feeling deprived.
    I've gone from 210 to 165 and held that for years. Which is still too much, but i kept it off which is realistic, and i change something to a more healthy habit when i feel like i've developed a good habit enough to be normal for me.

    • @liamchoux6160
      @liamchoux6160 5 месяцев назад +7

      Hell yeahhh, keep it up!

    • @kadzo6614
      @kadzo6614 5 месяцев назад +3

      🎉❤

    • @danielleelizaharpz
      @danielleelizaharpz 5 месяцев назад +6

      Congrats ! These are great tips ! Thank you for sharing xo

    • @asadifififaroo
      @asadifififaroo 4 месяца назад

      Michael Pollen’s How To Eat is an amazing resource too

    • @Elizabeth-nr8vo
      @Elizabeth-nr8vo 4 месяца назад

      Ozempic helped me and realizing that my genes are way more powerful than your god.

  • @GamerMom528
    @GamerMom528 5 месяцев назад +23

    I love this guest! Dr. Mike thank you for not turning into a supplement salesperson like so many others on RUclips. ❤

  • @frostyya2689
    @frostyya2689 5 месяцев назад +4

    As an aspiring health psychologist I absolutely loved this interview. Food companies campaign their products and then it's up to us to come up with public health incentives to mitigate that and encourage healthier habits in the wider population. I've never really thought to look at the relationship between food and politics, but it is something that I will keep in mind for my studies. Thank you so much for this interview, Dr Nestle's and your perspective have been thought-provoking.

  • @charmsz566
    @charmsz566 5 месяцев назад +105

    every single second of this entire episode is my Roman Empire lol. I think SO MUCH on a daily basis about the impossible entanglement of capitalist enterprises in food/healthcare/pharmaceutical industries, nutrition, socioeconomic disparities and cultural attitudes toward weight. This whole discussion was profoundly validating, it's as if my thoughts were spoken aloud between you both. I wish this episode could be beamed into everybody's device worldwide -- if we all woke up to the unseen influences that impact our decisions, health and attitudes, we would all be much, much better off. thank you Dr. Mike, keep up the fantastic work!!!

    • @PennyBrentonCarney
      @PennyBrentonCarney 4 месяца назад +1

      Listen to interviews with Robert F Kennedy Jr. He holds the same opinion on the food corporations. He wants to make the country healthier.

    • @charmsz566
      @charmsz566 4 месяца назад +9

      @@PennyBrentonCarney lol no.

    • @1s_that_a_j0j0_reference
      @1s_that_a_j0j0_reference 4 месяца назад +2

      @@charmsz566very confused by this comment because he does broadly agree with what is said here about the food industry. And pretty much believes our government has been captured by every industry.
      I disagree with several of his positions but let’s not throw the baby out with the bath water.

    • @brookiiecookie199
      @brookiiecookie199 Месяц назад

      @@PennyBrentonCarney Mr Brain Worm? Sure lmao

  • @CloudSnakeGames
    @CloudSnakeGames 5 месяцев назад +139

    As someone who went through my 20s eating whatever I wanted and had no real understanding of calories (thanks public school), your podcast with the other Dr Mike made me realize a lot about caloric intake and go down the rabbit hole. Its insane how many calories are in some foods which don't even really fill you up. I thought I was eating a normal amount, but now that im tracking calories, I can look back and see there were some days I was likely eating in excess of 3500 or more calories. We need schools to start teaching about this if we want any chance to stop the obesity problem

    • @Patrick-y4d1z
      @Patrick-y4d1z 5 месяцев назад +14

      Yeah, developing healthy lifestyle habits in your 20s will pay dividens throughout your entire life.
      Eat healthy, exercise regularly and take care of yourself (teeth, medical check ups etc).

    • @wildflower1397
      @wildflower1397 5 месяцев назад

      Schools are not even serving the healthier options in most cases. The food industry markets to schools in a huge way, because they want kids to become brand loyal at a young age. There is a reason schools give kids the option of chocolate milk and have vending machines.

    • @jacobstevens7046
      @jacobstevens7046 4 месяца назад

      What kind of public schools are y'all attending? Cause I'm also American and this was like, elementary school science.

    • @Patrick-y4d1z
      @Patrick-y4d1z 4 месяца назад +2

      @@jacobstevens7046
      It is primary school science - but most people stop listening to what they've learned in education.
      Not to mention, parents are often negative influences on children - particularly with diet.

  • @JK-xx2hz
    @JK-xx2hz 5 месяцев назад +33

    Is anyone gonna talk about what a kind, intelligent and wise, entertaining and absolutely delightful person she is?
    Love her radiance, realness and loving energy. ❤

  • @nikolamarinkov2638
    @nikolamarinkov2638 4 месяца назад +4

    This video,this conversation is one in a trillion... We need more videos like this one,more conversations like this. It will not solve the issue fast,as it was not put in place fast,but it will solve the problem for those who want change,and to live better lifes.

  • @stephenchurch1784
    @stephenchurch1784 4 месяца назад +4

    When you get diagnosed with celiac, one of the biggest pieces of advice you get is to shop around the store. That means don't bother going into the aisles, just hit the produce section, dairy section, and the butcher/seafood section. I can see it helping people trying to cut back on ultra-processed foods too

  • @Beautuiful_Happy28
    @Beautuiful_Happy28 5 месяцев назад +46

    She is absolutely brilliant. Bless her. I admire her perspective on who would benefit. The right questions will lead you to discovery/ truth

  • @SuperVlerik
    @SuperVlerik 5 месяцев назад +52

    First time I've heard Marion Nestle. I'm a fan now! She's awesome.

  • @VeronicaGarcia-hf7jb
    @VeronicaGarcia-hf7jb 5 месяцев назад +20

    So many great talking points on this one, it’s hard to pick a favorite. I would like to say: thank you for retaining your integrity and ethics by not using your social media presence to influence your followers into make decisions that could hurt their health. In a world that’s determined to manipulate us for their own profits, your consistent stance on this is very much appreciated!

  • @studionorthacademy
    @studionorthacademy 4 месяца назад +2

    Marion Nestle has been a MAJOR influence in my dietary journey (mostly vegan, WFPB). She’s an absolute legend. I thank her for literally saving my life by writing on Irritable Bowel Syndrome back in 1994.

  • @zanezaleska4195
    @zanezaleska4195 5 месяцев назад +77

    My mom and dad did not have any special education and have not been to any fancy schools. They were born and grew up in the Soviet Union. What they taught me as a child was not to eat highly processed foods and not to consume sugary drinks. It seemed common sense to everyone where I grew up. Now we are listening to nutritional scientist tell us this. Weird times we live in!

    • @tastegeorgia674
      @tastegeorgia674 4 месяца назад +3

      The Soviets advocated a highly processed diet though. Stalin actually sent people to the United States to study processed foods. Also the farming was highly industrialized.

    • @sibtainhaider2411
      @sibtainhaider2411 4 месяца назад +2

      ​@@tastegeorgia674 I think Farming thing was due to major Famines in Ukraine and Russia.

    • @tastegeorgia674
      @tastegeorgia674 4 месяца назад

      @@sibtainhaider2411 no collectivized farming and sending people with no agricultural experience caused the famine, not farmers.

    • @valeryasteel4167
      @valeryasteel4167 4 месяца назад

      ​@@tastegeorgia674 most of the famines were government issued, that way or another, and intentional. The USSR was horrible. Nutritional information was better than in the US, though.

  • @MsMocha62
    @MsMocha62 5 месяцев назад +139

    Doctor Mike, thank you so much for introducing me to the brilliance of Marion Nestle. I ordered two of her audiobooks. Wish we all could have you as our physician because you genuinely care for your patients. Thank you from NYC. 👏🏾✨️🎉🎉🎉

  • @The_Slavstralian
    @The_Slavstralian 5 месяцев назад +66

    Isn't it funny how so many things that are wrong with this world can be traced back to shareholder greed.

    • @Michelle-hh5de
      @Michelle-hh5de 4 месяца назад +2

      & Ronald Reagan's administration.

    • @Freshprankstv1
      @Freshprankstv1 4 месяца назад

      And greed of the individual. No one that gets paid a salary ever asks for less, give most ppl a choice between a cheeseburger and a banana which will they choose? Evil corp vs greedy ppl

    • @Luumus
      @Luumus 22 дня назад

      Yes the idea of profit above all and expectation of infinite growth is a cancer upon this planet and our societies.

  • @daniellaasaam1598
    @daniellaasaam1598 5 месяцев назад +33

    I really like this Lady, she's sweet, intelligent and a personal potential role model; she's one of the few guests of yours i could really understand. She speaks in a simple and relatable way. I wish you could have another video with her.

  • @zae5159
    @zae5159 27 дней назад +3

    She is such an absolute delight, she made me miss being in academia so much with this conversation!

  • @billbill6094
    @billbill6094 5 месяцев назад +34

    You know a lot of podcast guests, especially when it comes to health, have the amazing ability to say as little as possible in as much verbiage as they can. Marion Nestle is the exact opposite.
    You can really tell the difference between someone proclaiming themselves to be a foremost expert _trying_ to sound educated referencing studies that only support their (usually common) bias and making conclusions not fully supported by those studies, and someone who is actually in the field conducting research who is able to tell you about aspects of their field you didn't even know you didn't know about.

  • @anathardayaldar
    @anathardayaldar 5 месяцев назад +53

    Some commenters seem to not realize that many people live in "food deserts".
    Where junk food is readily available and cheap. But fresh fruits and vegs are not nearby and not as cheap.
    The "nearby" is important. People in the lower incomes have to take mass transit or just walk, which realy limits what is practical. And then to earn that lower income they have to "commute" for hours each way between two or more jobs which barely leaves enough time to sleep, much less to cook healthy.

    • @williamc4221
      @williamc4221 5 месяцев назад +5

      Dollar stores sell canned and frozen vegetables. They also sell canned beans/lentils.

    • @thespector2685
      @thespector2685 5 месяцев назад +3

      Get some pots find an area in your apartment with lots of light and grow some food.

    • @batkat0
      @batkat0 5 месяцев назад +13

      ​@@thespector2685 That's great if you have the time, money, and space. Oh and if your plants produce enough. I have a yearly veggie garden and this year has just sucked. Thank God I'm not depending on it for anything. I went to college in a high crime food desert. You couldn't leave anything unattended outside or it would be stolen. People were just trying to survive, let alone grow their own food....

    • @thespector2685
      @thespector2685 5 месяцев назад

      @@batkat0 I don't understand why you would want to live there then?
      Wouldn't it be better to just leave a place that is that bad?
      No food and high crime sounds like hell

    • @8evanesse
      @8evanesse 5 месяцев назад +20

      @@thespector2685Nobody WANTS to live in a high-crime food desert area. That may be where they grew up, and social, financial, and other factors can make it almost impossible to be able to leave.

  • @cjlivinglavidalocal3134
    @cjlivinglavidalocal3134 5 месяцев назад +74

    Love the approach to this podcast and love that corporate responsibility in health is gaining traction.

    • @KsazDFW
      @KsazDFW 3 месяца назад

      I wish it was…. Like Marion said, now if you criticize diet and obesity you are called racist. I guarantee that the big food companies are behind this.

  • @AIHumanEquality
    @AIHumanEquality 5 месяцев назад +246

    One of the biggest reasons why the US has such a health problem is the lack of oversight on food processing and sales. And the politicians refuse to do anything about it because the corporations give them money to shut down any legislation that would tighten regulations.

    • @f1rebreather123
      @f1rebreather123 5 месяцев назад +14

      And now it will be worse because everything is increasing in price, leaving the cheapest options as the only viable ones.

    • @jarren32
      @jarren32 5 месяцев назад +2

      No. Not at all. You miss the entire point of what's happening, dude

    • @Foolish188
      @Foolish188 5 месяцев назад +4

      Really wrong headed, it isn't the food industry's fault, the truth is that humans crave carbs. Every diet that I have failed on, I couldn't stop eating high carb junk food after eating just one donut. Two years of losing weight ruined by one donut. Our brains need sugar! The food industry simply sell what people buy. The new drugs are incredible, they break the cravings. I walk by my favorite junk foods, without even noticing them, while on an Ozempic class drug. A major additional benefit is that I don't think about food all day, the way I have done both on diets and off. I have to have an alarm on my phone to remind myself to eat something because I forget.

    • @AIHumanEquality
      @AIHumanEquality 5 месяцев назад +12

      @@Foolish188 Look at the sugar amounts in American food to Canadian food.

    • @sterlingW1l-d7t
      @sterlingW1l-d7t 5 месяцев назад +10

      the result of unregulated capitalism glad I live in the EU

  • @flufwix
    @flufwix 5 месяцев назад +48

    As someone who has struggled with weight issues all my life, I will confidently assert that stating that being overweight and obese is bad for your health is not fat shaming. It’s stating facts. I always knew that being overweight was bad for my health. There is no point kidding yourself that being fat is healthy, it’s not. I feel so much better having lost a significant amount of weight.
    It seems it’s not just shareholders and execs being greedy. What type of parent of a child a. allows them to be an influencer b. allows them to promote unhealthy food to other children? A greedy parent. Shameful
    Overall the corruption and bribery of the government by lobby groups is appalling. It needs to stop!

    • @mareble412
      @mareble412 4 месяца назад +2

      It is when it's unsolicited advice.

    • @Llynnyia
      @Llynnyia 4 месяца назад

      so while i agree with you fully about shareholders and advertising as well as front of the lablel laws being needed BUT as someone who has been obese all their life i can say the opposite i have NO obesity driven conditions or problems. in fact i am measurably stronger then many men , at the gym i can lift push and pull much more then them even maxing out the leg rowing machine (460lb) at one time during a fun competition between me and a guy i meet there. im just fat. so f off with your self hate projection onto others.

    • @thesimslover82884
      @thesimslover82884 3 месяца назад

      Being overweight isn't healthy, but the problem is that being skinny doesn't equal good health. There's a lot of people who starve themselves because they see themselves as fat. Yet these people can be skin and bones, which is far more dangerous to health. People can be influenced by media, Hollywood, video games, etc, that only skinny is healthy or attractive. When, in fact, skinny in and of itself isn't always healthy. I'm skinny, I like junk food, soda, candy, etc. If I were to consume only that, I wouldn't, in fact, be healthier. Being overweight doesn't mean a person sits and eats junk food all day. Many overweight people exercise and eat good diets. Weight is only one factor of healthy living, not the only factor.

  • @angelux2793
    @angelux2793 5 месяцев назад +14

    The problem with the snap restrictions is there are many many recipients who are homeless, or dont have their own money to buy the extra things. Also as high as food prices have been, it would only make things more difficult

  • @ctcboater
    @ctcboater 5 месяцев назад +69

    in my local Stop and Shop, the middle 60% (at least) of the aisles are devoted to junk food. And then there's the bakery section, with 90% of their products that are basically non-nutritive. The most depressive part is that space allocation is buyer driven. At least I get exercise from the walk from the fresh vegetable section to the frozen peas.

    • @peaches65835
      @peaches65835 5 месяцев назад +4

      My walk is from the fresh vegetable section on one end to the toilet paper on the far end. There are whole isles I know I can skip because they're only junk food.

  • @Jalharad
    @Jalharad 5 месяцев назад +27

    Excellent video. One of your best. You can hear the passion Marion Nestle has for this. Thank you for bringing her to my attention. Time to add her books to my list.

  • @eyannahorton2822
    @eyannahorton2822 5 месяцев назад +46

    As a 28-year-old who's body is adjusting to processing foods differently this is very helpful. I'm working on cutting back on ultraprocessed foods as my body cannot digest them the same, especially as I approach 30.

    • @TheRealVPireMarcy
      @TheRealVPireMarcy 5 месяцев назад +1

      Good on you! I wish you good luck on your endeavor 🫶🏻

  • @pattaylor7298
    @pattaylor7298 3 месяца назад +2

    It was refreshing to hear from a nutritional researcher. I was a state and federal food, drugs and dairies boots-on -the ground inspector for nearly 20 yrs(Hv a anatomy/physiology degree and unfinished master in public health w/one yr of nutrition classes) It opened my eyes and closed my mouth to a lot of foods out there.

  • @EleutheriaBeth
    @EleutheriaBeth 4 месяца назад +5

    The best part of this interview is near the end, the absolute passion that she talks about food with.

  • @EffigyOfficial
    @EffigyOfficial 5 месяцев назад +37

    This podcast is the best thing on RUclips right now

    • @mugflub
      @mugflub 2 месяца назад

      Honestly one of the best health podcasts period. Dr. Mike is so level-headed and intelligent and he lets his guests share their expertise without interrupting or talking over them.

  • @Beautuiful_Happy28
    @Beautuiful_Happy28 5 месяцев назад +75

    Some ideas for better nutrition:
    Allowing more time for lunch breaks.
    Having a class in school on how to cook.
    Teaching kids how to grow their own food.
    Taking out the vending machines in schools.
    Having community gardens in schools with a chicken coop (free eggs).
    Working with local farmers to teach and provide fresh food to schools.
    Plant fruit trees in parks.
    A local cafeteria for police officers & construction workers, etc. to have a place to eat and free food.
    There was a business that had a cafeteria that fed their workers for free & the food was delicious & nutritious.

    • @adamcolclasure4892
      @adamcolclasure4892 5 месяцев назад +18

      Welcome to the EU and most of Asia we've been mandating those thing since 2006 -2012 depending on the country. The USA is just behind probably, from lobbyists or just blaming people so no accountability is required America with low standards.

    • @Beautuiful_Happy28
      @Beautuiful_Happy28 5 месяцев назад +5

      Every state is different here ,some states, area ,business ,schools have them others dont . Some people are more progressive others states or stuck . My mother tells me all the time U.S.A compared to other countries might as well be a 3rd world country. I guess we rely on the government to solve our problems while the government is solving other countries problems. It's not a joint effort . There are some positive sides to the U.S . It's not all bad here😁

    • @Wyrm7774
      @Wyrm7774 5 месяцев назад

      ⁠@@adamcolclasure4892don't forget the US constantly cuts/threatens to cut public education programs

    • @clerpington_the_fifth
      @clerpington_the_fifth 5 месяцев назад +4

      Or putting something in the vending machines besides chips and honeybuns - like fruit.

    • @I_am_a_cat_
      @I_am_a_cat_ 5 месяцев назад +3

      ... when I went to highschool, 2009-2012, we had health class in both middle school and high school. It was all about cooking stuff...
      What's funny though, is often times we'd bake cakes or cookies. Nothing actually healthy lol

  • @SMey54
    @SMey54 5 месяцев назад +38

    I 1000% agree about ingredient labels. As someone with a multitude of food allergies, the ingredients are important to me. While I lean more to fresh, whole food to cook with, condiments and seasonings play a big part in variety. Even the condiments, etc are hard to find without rice, soy, wheat, etc included.

    • @thespector2685
      @thespector2685 5 месяцев назад +3

      Yup, I have to make my own mayo because I have a soy allergy. 😢

    • @SmurfieDurfie
      @SmurfieDurfie 5 месяцев назад +5

      I didn't know that was even a thing. Here in germany the ingredients are very clear to read, most often printed black on white, or on yellow or something like that.
      That should really be more regulated in the US

    • @thespector2685
      @thespector2685 5 месяцев назад +3

      @@SmurfieDurfie sometimes they don't even put soy in the allergy list so you have to look through the entire list.
      they call it something else. Soy can be called, natural flavoring or artificial flavoring instead of actual soy.

    • @SmurfieDurfie
      @SmurfieDurfie 5 месяцев назад +3

      @@thespector2685 Wow that's horrible, especially when it's so hard to read the ingredients

    • @thespector2685
      @thespector2685 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@SmurfieDurfie yeah, I don't bother going down the middle isles of the store anymore. Fruits veggies and meat.
      If I need seasoning or sauce I research how to make it at home from scratch.
      It takes a long time so I end up spending my days off cooking all day but it's safer that way. :/

  • @lilliedube4185
    @lilliedube4185 5 месяцев назад +2

    I read her books in my undergrad for my degree in nutrition. This was a great conversation. Everyone should listen. Thanks for doing this!

  • @iarargarcia
    @iarargarcia 4 месяца назад +4

    She's brilliant. So wise, bright and passionate in the way she talks, I absolutely loved It. Thank you for the insightful questions and commentary too, Doc!

  • @ydopeoplelovetotalk
    @ydopeoplelovetotalk 5 месяцев назад +27

    Marion Nestle inspires me EVERY TIME. What a legend!

  • @shenetteholman8441
    @shenetteholman8441 5 месяцев назад +100

    As a SNAP recipient, I don't think people who receive Snap should be told what they can or can not buy. I do however think that healthier food options shouldn't be so expensive. Each household only receive a certain amount of SNAP benefits. I know in my situation if I were to only purchase healthy/ wholesome products we would not have enough food to survive until the next month. That is why so many people may purchase food/beverages that are not healthy. Unfearfully, as a person who receives SNAP benefits can't not support my household with the limited income I receive. I do try my hardest to pick the healthier option as much as I cab while also making sure have enough food for the month.

    • @mmalove98
      @mmalove98 5 месяцев назад +8

      Never feel guilty for doing the best you can in every moment ♥️

    • @julietardos5044
      @julietardos5044 5 месяцев назад +11

      I think SNAP covers vegetable seeds, if you have the ability to have a garden, even in a couple pots.

    • @ahkosorsomesaykosby9999
      @ahkosorsomesaykosby9999 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@julietardos5044Gardening is expensive. You have to spend hundreds that you wouldn't have if your receiving snap to get started.

    • @JaredFont
      @JaredFont 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@shenetteholman8441 Sorry but you get free food. Your opinion on what food we the taxpayers give you is frankly irrelevant. I actually have to pay for mine and it takes a lot of work. And on top of that y’all never have health insurance so when you eat yourself into diabetes I then have to pay for that too. And the whole thing about not having enough food is nonsense. You just like sugar and ultra processed junk more than real whole foods. Take some responsibility. I already see the “but I’m a single mom” coming so get married ya bum. Stop being a burden on the system…

    • @jeannesutter4951
      @jeannesutter4951 5 месяцев назад +19

      Double Up food bucks is a SNAP-recipient benefit at farmers markets if you have access to one. It can help you stretch your food budget with fresh fruit and vegetables.

  • @bodowoehner7859
    @bodowoehner7859 5 месяцев назад +23

    There talks wisdom, what a lovely lady. Thank you for having her! ❤

  • @sofiew.andersen4548
    @sofiew.andersen4548 5 месяцев назад +5

    I had a subject in school all about cooking, and learning to understand recipes and how to put together a meal. It was 1,5 hours a week for a year or two, can't remember. I think i was about 13 years old.
    It is an amazing way of helping a whole nation, to at least have the knowledge of it, so they don't have to teach them self.

  • @eph2vv89only1way
    @eph2vv89only1way 5 месяцев назад +8

    Another way food stores get you to see more products and therefore buy more is rearranging the store every couple of years. If you have to search for a product that you used to find easily, you are going down more aisles. It's a ploy they taught us in marketing classes in college when I was studying accounting

  • @justmonika3635
    @justmonika3635 5 месяцев назад +58

    I have never heard of Marion so I am so thankful for this video. Time to deep dive into her books.

  • @taniaschmalz465
    @taniaschmalz465 5 месяцев назад +10

    Thank you for having Marion on your show. I loved this conversation between you two! 💛

  • @jmnordman
    @jmnordman 5 месяцев назад +22

    Thank you for having her on, corporate malfeasance is EXTREMELY under-discussed in conversations about diet. I have some disagreements about specific topics, like the frankly bonkers amount of research on the benign impact of various artificial/non-caloric sweeteners and the ethics of meat consumption, but the overall point stands: profit seekers will seek profit by any legal means, ethics be damned

  • @LynxyPie
    @LynxyPie 28 дней назад +1

    BaBestie!
    This video..... I'm literally having a struggle between the whole "HA!!! I KNEW IT!!! GO ME!!!" and questioning whether or not this will inflate my ego because I'm deathly afraid of building my confidence too fast and shooting past it into arrogance.
    Anyways, I say all this to say that what I learned by watching this is my entire approach to nutrition is backed by decades of research and experts in the field. I am so.... just so happy.
    And I hope that maybe when you watch this it will serve to add some credibility to the things I say regarding nutrition.

  • @tosyaluv
    @tosyaluv 4 месяца назад +1

    A great interview with honest and clear-minded opinions. Such a joy to hear this style of discussion nowadays

  • @alexwansss
    @alexwansss 5 месяцев назад +47

    Taking money out of politics would be a great service to humanity overall.

  • @lizbecker1677
    @lizbecker1677 5 месяцев назад +8

    Wow, this is a great episode. Every time I've travelled outside the U.S., especially to Europe I've lost weight without really trying. I wondered why and just wrote it off to maybe walking more than I do at home, but this is making me think that the food we eat has something to do with it, too. In Europe, the portion sizes are smaller, and the food actually tastes better and I find that I feel satisfied with less.

  • @sha2596
    @sha2596 5 месяцев назад +21

    This is so interesting because the food industry has no pull in my
    Household. We don’t watch standard TV, so I haven’t seen a food commercial in years. My son and I eat home cooked meals more often than not and so real foods live rent free in our house. We eat when we are hungry and stop eating when not. We don’t drink our calories and treat juices and sodas like a snack. When you’ve had real whole foods you can taste the processing of processed foods and it tastes pretty gross.

    • @7thCobweb
      @7thCobweb 4 месяца назад +4

      one of the biggest points in this podcast was that the food industry controls politics, they control food prices and what is offered where. that influence is huge and goes beyond TV. even jobs and the environment are impacted by the food industry. please listen to the podcast again ..

  • @kastor4331
    @kastor4331 5 месяцев назад +2

    as someone who is a biochemistry major in college also studying public health this was such an insightful episode to watch, I’m so inspired to learn more. Also I saw in one of the comments and would like to reiterate if you could reference studies mentioned by the guest in your description would be super helpful but what a wonderful episode and wonderful person to bring on

  • @elisa-beary
    @elisa-beary 5 месяцев назад +2

    I love her!! Not only does she have a lot of important knowledge & things to say but she’s witty, passionate & engaging. I went back in January for my masters in mental health counseling & we have to take some public health classes. I tend to write my papers on this type of stuff as I know a lot about it, am equal parts fascinated & disgusted by anything new I learn while doing research.

  • @tatyannamartinez7896
    @tatyannamartinez7896 5 месяцев назад +14

    I love the nutritional topics!! Keep up the good work Mike

  • @Pugs365
    @Pugs365 5 месяцев назад +25

    I left a very lucrative, but miserable job in a municipal court to go back to working at a school cafeteria. There we cared about every aspect of what we served. It was my favorite job in 37 years of work. My kitchen at home is my domain and my happy place, to serve others with love through food.

    • @czerniana
      @czerniana 5 месяцев назад +1

      A public school? Because even when I was a kid they weren't cooking much of anything so much as reheating frozen stuff

  • @aggy5372
    @aggy5372 5 месяцев назад +90

    We need to stop subsidizing the corn industry so much and start subsidizing a range of fruits and vegetables

    • @mennovanens6116
      @mennovanens6116 4 месяца назад +3

      And the meat industry. Horribly cruel factory farms get a $60 BILLION dollar government handout to keep the price of meat down.
      If it weren’t for this subsidy, meat alternatives would be much more widely chosen over beef, pork and chicken.

    • @Blairtheadorablekitsune
      @Blairtheadorablekitsune 4 месяца назад +4

      @@mennovanens6116 I would argue that we need to change the type of industries we subsidize in the meat industry. We need to shift the focus from corporate farms to smaller family farms, who are more likely to use more humane practices and are also likely to have less instances of diseased animals, since they don’t crowd animals like the corporate farms do. If we do that, not only will the meat products offered in the grocery store be more diverse, it will also be healthier and more ethically sourced than it is currently.

  • @alexkenzagi6321
    @alexkenzagi6321 5 месяцев назад +7

    i love how she explains whats "ultra-processed" food it, and it makes so much sense!! ill definitely try to follow not eating that (like... i might get some candy once in a while, but cutting down on food u cant make in ur home makes a lot of sense) as someone whos 19 and lives alone, it can be hard to find the energy to make ur own food, and i often buy somethings i need to just reheat or something, those are processed (which as far ive understood, is ok) but i also realize that some of it is stuff i wouldnt be able to make at home, so thats definitely gonna get cut down
    also, just did some more research on the topic, ultra processed foods are a lot more than i just realised, be carefull out there, and remember, its ok to steal from big corporations that makes life harder just to make som bux they arent gonna use anyways, and also if u gonna do that, remember to do ur reseach on what corporation that store belongs to!
    i also love when she just straight up said "you just explained capitalism" and sadly its true, most problems in world, if u dig deep enough down into them, youll find the answer to be capitalism

    • @NinaKatharinaWeber
      @NinaKatharinaWeber 2 месяца назад

      If possible, frozen veggies can be great to speed up cooking. We often buy veggies or fruit when they are offered on sale, then freeze them.
      It‘s best to spread them out while freezing and then later throwing them into a freezer bag after it‘s frozen. That way you can take out a small portion, throw it into a pan or pot, done.

  • @itspricila
    @itspricila 4 месяца назад +1

    I’m a nutritionist/ dietitian love that your giving Ms Nestle a platform, love her work and also this topic is important to expose

  • @bogbog
    @bogbog 5 месяцев назад +7

    I looooooove the way she talks. So sweet and passionate!

  • @Akirragahlawat
    @Akirragahlawat 5 месяцев назад +5

    Thank you Doctor Mike for bringing Marion nestle to the podcast.She is so inspirational,87 and still bringing wisdom to the world!

  • @a.diary.for.future.me.
    @a.diary.for.future.me. 5 месяцев назад +16

    1:02:54 the sentence I was waiting for. Most of the social problems of the world; homelessness, poverty, obesity, are caused because of capitalism. these are largely policy issues not issues of personal responsibility.

  • @inf3rnalis804
    @inf3rnalis804 5 месяцев назад +4

    I can’t express enough how important it is for specialized professionals to understand sociology oh my god, especially doctors, “awareness and personal choice” doesn’t work on a large scale, systemic approaches are all we have and even then it’s incredibly difficult, especially fighting upstream under neoliberalism.

  • @vanessanost
    @vanessanost 5 месяцев назад +1

    Marion is delightful, passionate and full of knowledge. I really loved this conversation.

  • @KidMonkii
    @KidMonkii 5 месяцев назад +9

    RUclips has a wide range of content but man is this a video I’m glad I saw today. Amazing conversation. I won’t be cutting 500 calories without comparing my weight and diet but it’s nice to better know how quickly the excess calories can turn into pounds. I heard “a pound a week” and realized I need to switch my snacks up. Adding more fruits and veggies. Also thanks for clarifying the FOOD TRIANGLE. Dimensions and nuance get lost on many 😂

  • @aggy5372
    @aggy5372 5 месяцев назад +92

    something that's really important to understand is that people can be simultaneously obese and malnourished at once

    • @abigaylebaer1085
      @abigaylebaer1085 5 месяцев назад +14

      Yeah, just like someone can be slim and malnourished. Proper nutrients doesn't equate to weight.

    • @mipsan
      @mipsan 5 месяцев назад +19

      being malnourished also often makes you more hungry, as your body is desperate for nutrition. Then you eat more junk and just get more hungry in the end.

  • @ItsJennNotJenny
    @ItsJennNotJenny 5 месяцев назад +16

    Love seeing these educational conversations! I personally think that nutrition and basic food science should be taught in high school in a more nuanced and in-depth way in order to help future generations. I appreciate both of your expertise on this subject. We also need to emphasize that the dose makes the poison in so many contexts. Keep up the good work, Dr. Mike!

  • @TimelessjewelbyDebra
    @TimelessjewelbyDebra 4 месяца назад +1

    Fantastic Conversation. We NEED more of this@Doctor Mike

  • @souldriver
    @souldriver 3 месяца назад +2

    I'm on a weight loss journey and the biggest difference I have noticed, besides the one on my waistline, is how much cheaper it is to eat healthy. I think it's a common misconception that it's more expensive to eat healthy. The reason I think it's actually cheaper is because healthy food satiates much better than ultra processed foods and therefore need to buy smaller amounts of food than someone typically would if buying ultra processed foods. Since you need a lot more ultra processed foods to be full, eating whole foods is actually cheaper. If you bought the same amount of food as the amount you bought of ultra processed foods, then yes, healthy whole food would be more expensive but then you'd be tossing out about half or a quarter of it because it would expire before you could get through it.
    Edit to add: I live with my fiancé. In our particular case, our monthly groceries went from $600/mo to $300-450/mo after eating better. We also tend to buy frozen fruits/vegetables because they last longer. Or we freeze the fruits and vegetables we buy and realize we won't be able to get through.

  • @AmyBluesoul
    @AmyBluesoul 5 месяцев назад +396

    If someone asked me why I eat what I eat, my first answer is cost. I eat what I can afford. When a burger is $1 and a salad is $5, it's what I buy. Fresh produce, fruits, proteins are expensive but a can of soup for one serving is $1... Well then Chunky Soup it is.

    • @misse2013
      @misse2013 5 месяцев назад +45

      I've seen people thriving on just cheap hamburger patties. It ends up being cheaper and more nutritious to just eat the cheapest meat, and leave out the processed foods and plants.

    • @trucid2
      @trucid2 5 месяцев назад +59

      Chicken and pork are very affordable, especially if you buy a whole chicken or a pork roast.

    • @joshkund
      @joshkund 5 месяцев назад +5

      Right, that's my first thought too.

    • @inigo137
      @inigo137 5 месяцев назад +99

      beans are not expensive, rice is not expensive, A LOT of vegetables are not expensive
      I can literally buy 1kg of carrots for 1.10€

    • @95mudshovel
      @95mudshovel 5 месяцев назад +67

      produce is dirt cheap at my grocery store and soup is expensive. gotta learn to cook.

  • @loading...2009
    @loading...2009 5 месяцев назад +7

    I never watch your superlong videos but I couldn't resist to watch her. She is so smart and supercute at the same time. This was a great video

  • @ashhhh0333
    @ashhhh0333 4 месяца назад +393

    This is just scratching the surface. If you really want to be healthy go read a banned book Health and Beauty Mastery.

  • @lulamamokone2851
    @lulamamokone2851 4 месяца назад +4

    I just like this woman. She is very informed, and knowledgeable. Her views are so enlightening. Above that I like thay she is a little cheeky and funny😊

  • @thisisme1999
    @thisisme1999 5 месяцев назад +3

    The description of food using corn as an example blew my mind and focused it on something that I sort of understood having high blood pressure and trying to live on healthy diet. I loved Doritos and their friends at one point and they were a regularly a big part of my diet. I went from having slightly elevated high blood pressure to extremely high blood pressure and I have made a concerted effort to keep as many of these ultra-processed foods out of my diet. Grocery shopping entails a lot of label reading.