I have the Prime bookshelf but I paired them with a SB2000 sub so bass isn't an issue. I'm crossing over at 80Hz and it's smooth with no audible bump or drop in tone or volume. Perfect pair.
I've watch many of sound test videos and researched speakers over the years. This guy, (Terry Ellis) is one of the best with his presentation and information provided. Excellent job. Got allot of good out of this. Thanks.
That was an extensive and thorough review commentary Terry. I completely agree with you in that it seems likely that the Prime elevation 'Bookshelf' speakers are intentionally designed to work in concert with at least one sub-woofer in a Home Cinema application. It would be great to get a sound demo comparison of the Prime Elevation vs. Klipsch & Wharfadale speakers in this shootout. Thanks.
I had these, the klipsch 600 and the elac b6.2, I AB’d them for around 3 weeks for mostly home cinema. I ranked them klipsch 3rd, elac 2nd and the SVS first. As mentioned in the review these were the closest to that commercial cinema sound, clean, direct and dynamic
@@Stevo19801 i wont buy two subs, no money and no space for duals! I would have loved a SB2000 but here in my country in eastern Europe is too expensive! About the SB1000 i heard that is kinda underwhelming and probably I'll buy this Black Friday a PB1000 and pair it with speakers that i own now and when I'll have money I'll probably buy the Prime bookshelfs and the Prime center. How do the Prime bookshelfs sound with music?
I appreciate your description of them as revealing and transparent. I have the powered wireless pro version (4 50watt amps) and they are fantastic. (might have a bigger mid driver than these) As you note the base is tight and detailed , with mids and highs really wonderful. I find the whole range coherent and musical. At first I did wwonder if they'd break up, because they are crisp and detailed, but it has never happened - just big clear sound. On the cool side, I had a pair of B&W floorstanders, and they just hurt with the treble and while crisp, they brought little joy.On the other end of the spectrum, I tested the SVS next to the Q M20s and found those warm but veiling, and the bass was more a bloom than a tactile thing. Highway to Hell becomes Highway to Whatevs. Though I will say, femaile voices were beautifully rendered. Being revealing and detailed has means a bad recording sounds bad, but anything competent is a joy, and you feel you're hearing everything without an engineer making decisions for you. I'm fine with them alone, but I will be looking into a micro sub, because they're such a fine foundation to build on.
Fantastic review, Terry. I just upgraded from using 2 SVS satellites as my front's (the bookshelf's should be here soon) and it is great to know what to expect. I am primarily going to be using them for cinema and pairing with an SVS PB12-NSD sub and Prime Center.. Subbed and liked. thx.
Nice to see a review of affordable bookshelf speakers. Can't wait for your final wrap up. Just received a pair of Evo 4.2 myself and am testing them. My set up: Streamer/pre amp: BlueSound Node 2i (Tidal Master) Amplifier XTZ Edge A2-300 Speakers Canton Chrono SL 570.2 DC, XTZ 99.25 LCR, Triangle Borea BR03 The Evos do need a "run in" time as they noticeably improve in hours. (Sean from Zero Fidelity noticed that as well) I will post an update in a few weeks.
Thanks for this great review !😄👍 You selected a group of really good speakers especially for the price. Quite impatient to hear your final thoughts on all of them, it will be quite difficult 😄 Have a nice Sunday
Very interesting, There is only 3 RUclips audio reviewers, I feel like I can trust you are one of them. SVS offer a premium bookshelf speaker called the ultra which I'm sure you're well aware of, with a reasonable asking price in the US. Maybe I should take the prime series more seriously after your review. The SVS's would be more of a backup to my Linn Katan, which I have had since new (2007) one of the other speakers I am quite Intrested in is the B&W 707S2. I like that black piano finish sweet! Thanks alot for your review.
Thanks Terry for the great review as always. Since you have experience with SVS (e.g. SVS always delivers and never disappoint). If you could make an A/B comparison between SVS SB2000 PRO and Rel T7i/T9i for music listening that will be brilliant. Current setup: > Fyne Audio F501 > CXA 80 Thanks in advance!
@@zacharyshort384 The price difference is not that huge here in the UK/IE. SVS SB2000 Pro - £ 999 (Gloss) / 899 (Black Ash) REL T7i (Gloss) - £ 849 REL T9i (Gloss) - £ 999 Source: www.richersounds.com Yes, price is within the price range. So not a factor. Thanks!
Pricing is very different in the USA. The SVS Prime cost half as much as the the Wharfedale Evo 4.2, $500 vs $1000. For $1000 you can get the SVS Ultra bookshelf speakers. That's the match up I was expecting.
Thanks for clarifying their fit for different applications (HT vs Music). Believe they are more suited for HT applications than for Music. Keep up the great work.
@@PursuitPerfectSystem - Change of plans. I was chatting with an SVS representative & it sounds like I’ll need to go with the Ultra Surrounds. Is there any chance you could review those speakers? There really don’t seem to be many reviews/sound demos of the Ultra Surrounds
@@PursuitPerfectSystem I mean, they're a sub-first company, so it stands to reason they designed and anticipated an SVS sub to complete the sound *shrug*
@@PursuitPerfectSystem I just got the Bookshelfs last week and loving them. Coupled with a PB2000. I heard the Evolution Pinnacle which where very nice. I look forward to your review...... love the channel. Keep up the great Vids, and Keep'em Spinning
As a bass player, I'm all about deep but defined bass and a balanced soundstage. These might replace my PSB Image 2B speakers(I really like these!) and would be augmented by a REL Q108 subwoofer in my home theater system.
Hello Terry! Even if your review is so good and so detailed I still need your HELP! I have a small system composed from an Denon DRA 800-H + one pair of Wharfdale Evo 4.2 + one subwoofer SVS SB 1000. I am quite happy with the sound but I feel a lack of high and mid-range therefore, as the amplifier has another 2 speakers output maybe adding one pair of SVS Prime bookshelf I could solve the matter. In this moment it is a good 400 Euro offer for the pair.... I will really appreciate your and maybe your subscribers advice. Thank you in advance!
Mine just arrived yesterday and so far I’m really liking them. These are the most money I’ve spent on bookshelf speakers, well any speakers really. Did they sound better to you after the “burn in?” I’m using them with a Project Evo turntable.
Terry, Good reviews & methodology used. You seem to be very high on the EVO 4.2s? Are they "best" bang for the $ in this Bookshelf Category? Surprised you did not Include the KEF Q350s?
KEF didnt have any available for me that is the only reason why, I felt from this test yes the EVO 4.2 while not perfect and probably not for everyone offered a lot of speaker for the money
Terry, Even though you did not include the Kefs, i stumbled upon a pair at Accessories for Less for Recertified for $449. I pulled the trigger. I will run them in parallel with a pair of Elac Debut Reference speakers connected to my Denon DRA-800H Receiver at the rear of my Basement Studio that I created during the COVID hibernation of 2020. I also have a separate Integrated Amp IOTA SA3 and Emotiva A300 Amp to drive 2 pairs of bookshelf speakers- Elac Debut 6.2s and Fluance Signature Series Surround HiFi Bookshelf speakers in the front of the room. I use the Studio ( really just a finished basement), to listen to My Music and to play my resurrected pleasure of playing drums after a hiatus of 50 Years. I'm 69 , retired now due spinal / arthritic conditions. Take care, be safe in this madness of CVV.
Ha! You're reviewing ALL the speakers I'm looking at. Sounds like these are actual BOOKSHELF speakers vs needing stands? Would having stands help or hinder these?
Yeah that was the idea, stands give you more placement flexibility and will likely be better for getting better sound but you dont "need" them of course
Very thorough review. Sir, most people in this price range won't have Dirac. Also that "matter-of-fact" midrange and "zippyness" from the tweeter may be an issue for some. When you corrected with Dirac at the top end, and recommend putting on the grills to tone it down you might have suggested to some that the SVS may be unforgiving on compressed, lower rez or just plain crappy recordings. We used to get customers with old '70s music on CD complaining that it sounded harsh and/or shrill. Audio sourced from phones could be frustrating as well, with the customer adamant that iTunes was as good or better than CD quality in all cases, sometimes we'd get lucky and have a better version of the same music or we'd show them different tracks from iTunes that sounded much better. I'd burn those speakers in for 80-100 hours, the treble may soften a tad and the bass warm up just a bit. A magazine review (in the U.S.) of the SVS tower speakers noted this exact symptom. I would have asked that you audition them with some two channel gear, priced to match. Someone spending mid 600's on bookshelf speakers isn't going to have 2, 3, or 4 thousand in an integrated amp, about the same in a CD/SACD player and another six grand in a music server/streamer/DAC. An audition with all of the speakers you mentioned with perhaps an entry level NAD integrated amp and CD player (or whatever you suggest in that price range) would be lovely. Perhaps a laptop with a cheap DAC instead of the CD if you'd like. The problem with that is if you use hiRez sources and people expect everything to sound like that, that's why I like using a CD player as a source. Well done
I think for this group test I wanted to push the speakers as much as I can so using the best system I can made sense to remove the system as a limitating factor. Its impossible for a reviewer to predict how someone else's system will sound with the prime speakers because the potential variables are wildly different so I think its a losing battle trying to go that route. Me mentioning that I preferred the sound with the grills on is not related to material or source quality its just how I preferred the speakers overall sound and its maybe something someone can try if they listen to the speaker and think the same as me. Dirac is a different thing altogether as it provides me with a level of setup consistency and measurement and that allows me to hear past my room much better than without it and isolate what the hifi is doing better. A lot of potential customers of the prime speakers will have access to dirac within AV electronics from Arcam and NAD or miniDSP so its available at not crazy money :) Thanks for watching and for the detailed comments I enjoyed reading them :)
Good video, but a niggle I have is that you SHOULD have used SVS ULTRA bookshelfs which are in the same price range as others in your group ($1000 USD a pair).
Hello Everyone! I apologize in advance for this longer comment, I hope someone with more experiance and knowledge can help out as the internet articles were rather confusing that down right helpful. That said, I am new to this sphere of (sound) technology and am looking for a suiting Amplifier for future SVS Prime Bookshelf Speakers and SVS SB-1000 combination. So far I've owned few mini stereos and Home Theathers 5.1, and after thorough "research", solely based on RUclips Reviews and Comparisons, I came do decision that the previsouly mentioned Components are my go-to choice, from price stand point and what they deliver. What Reviews do not touch up on are suiting Amplifiers, and that's my current struggel. I don't know what to look for in a Amplifier and if it's a good fit for wished speakers and sub. My Amplifier (not Reciever) budget would be €450/$490. Hope someone here can help out with a useful comment. Thank You in advance!
Can’t really say the best, but what sounds good to the listener. To me, it’s not about measurements and graphs, but listening is key!!! Our ears tell what sound good to all of us. There is no such thing as the best sounding speaker or the best speaker period!
Any chance that you can briefly mention how the AE300 sounds like, and what are the strengths and shortfalls? As there is someone selling a pair of this locally and deal closing very soon... (in about 11 hrs), cheers.
Shame you didn't put on the Warfedale Denton 85th Anniversary Edition speakers on here as they are in the under £600 price bracket and offer something different than the usual standmount speakers currently available.
You get some headphones sponge no more than 5mm thick cut a hole for the tweeter double-sided tape stick it on the front plate of the tweeter will make it sound better calm down the harsh frequencies have the foam touching the cage slightly overlapping couple of mm 2 -3 mm but no tape. You might want to make it egg shape Oval in the vertical plane especially between the tweeter and woofer try round first You need to do your measurements outside because what we are seeing is your room not necessary the speaker? Have the frequency sweep at 1-m between both drivers outside away from the building ideally 8 ft off the ground
Its the same room though so you can see how the different speakers present the sound in my room graphically - I am not getting into deep measurements - other people do that better than me. I only care about how it starts and then what I do to make it right - cheers John
It's a party speaker--which is great if that's what someone wants. Smooth frequency response? I get a 7 - 8 db. rise at ~1.5 kHz that drops back off around 2.5 kHz, confirmed by others' measurements, and which is a common feature in speaker models of this type, but more extreme than average. It gives a nice open definition in the sound to compare to when listening as someone pushes an A/B comparison switch briefly, but other than for selling speakers and powering rock 'n roll, it doesn't represent an especially accurate reproduction of a signal. They're just fun to play with.
I dont think so cables change your perception of sound they don't change a speakers freq response or impulse reponse which is what dirac is looking to improve but it won't hurt either - I have never done it after a cable change to say specifically
I recently found open box 606's for $265 usd. The matching center is out of my price range though. Do you think the SVS Prime Center would be a good match for them?
@@PursuitPerfectSystem Thanks for the quick reply. I found an open box HTM6 so just bit the bullet and ordered it even though it was still a little over the budget
@@carbonoxx i pulled the trigger on the primes. Not sure if seller wanted higher sales and I got had or if he was being honest about the primes giving me a wider sound stage and less fatiguing.
So I have the ultras and I have a avr that only outputs 75w per channel. Do u think I would benefit in sound quality by getting an amp with 200w per channel or would it just make it louder because its already plenty loud.
@@PursuitPerfectSystem I came across you video cause I'm thinking of getting these for my rear surrounds. I loved how you kept repeating " svs prime bookshelf speakers" in this review. Anyways, I was at a party having a good time when somebody asked "does anybody know of a new drinking game?" This video immediately popped into my head!. Well we had a great time taking shots of scotch whiskey every time you said it!. Great time we had!
I have the Prime bookshelf but I paired them with a SB2000 sub so bass isn't an issue. I'm crossing over at 80Hz and it's smooth with no audible bump or drop in tone or volume. Perfect pair.
I've watch many of sound test videos and researched speakers over the years. This guy, (Terry Ellis) is one of the best with his presentation and information provided. Excellent job. Got allot of good out of this. Thanks.
That was an extensive and thorough review commentary Terry. I completely agree with you in that it seems likely that the Prime elevation 'Bookshelf' speakers are intentionally designed to work in concert with at least one sub-woofer in a Home Cinema application. It would be great to get a sound demo comparison of the Prime Elevation vs. Klipsch & Wharfadale speakers in this shootout. Thanks.
I had these, the klipsch 600 and the elac b6.2, I AB’d them for around 3 weeks for mostly home cinema. I ranked them klipsch 3rd, elac 2nd and the SVS first. As mentioned in the review these were the closest to that commercial cinema sound, clean, direct and dynamic
What subwoofer have you used with the SVS Prime bookshelves?
Aexoero V a pair of pb1000, check out home Theater guru channel for setup tutorial it’s the best one I have found so far
@@Stevo19801 thanks!
Aexoero V it’s in the dual sub setup guide he has
@@Stevo19801 i wont buy two subs, no money and no space for duals! I would have loved a SB2000 but here in my country in eastern Europe is too expensive! About the SB1000 i heard that is kinda underwhelming and probably I'll buy this Black Friday a PB1000 and pair it with speakers that i own now and when I'll have money I'll probably buy the Prime bookshelfs and the Prime center. How do the Prime bookshelfs sound with music?
I appreciate your description of them as revealing and transparent. I have the powered wireless pro version (4 50watt amps) and they are fantastic. (might have a bigger mid driver than these) As you note the base is tight and detailed , with mids and highs really wonderful. I find the whole range coherent and musical. At first I did wwonder if they'd break up, because they are crisp and detailed, but it has never happened - just big clear sound.
On the cool side, I had a pair of B&W floorstanders, and they just hurt with the treble and while crisp, they brought little joy.On the other end of the spectrum, I tested the SVS next to the Q M20s and found those warm but veiling, and the bass was more a bloom than a tactile thing. Highway to Hell becomes Highway to Whatevs. Though I will say, femaile voices were beautifully rendered.
Being revealing and detailed has means a bad recording sounds bad, but anything competent is a joy, and you feel you're hearing everything without an engineer making decisions for you. I'm fine with them alone, but I will be looking into a micro sub, because they're such a fine foundation to build on.
This was a fantastic review, the best of all the ones I watched. Told me exactly what I wanted to know. Thank you.
I’m a Klipsch user and I appreciate your content.
Excellent review, Terry. Overall you've chosen a very good selection to suit all. And all within a very good starting price range for decent HiFi 🎶🎵👍
Fantastic review, Terry. I just upgraded from using 2 SVS satellites as my front's (the bookshelf's should be here soon) and it is great to know what to expect. I am primarily going to be using them for cinema and pairing with an SVS PB12-NSD sub and Prime Center.. Subbed and liked. thx.
Good work.
I have the Ultra Bookshelfs paired with an Arcam, and I must say that I just love the sound I´ve got in my room.
That sounds like a great combo to me :)
@@PursuitPerfectSystem how do these compare to the studio 530 bookshelf speakers from JBL
Nice review and comparison thank you. For me, I prefer not the bass but the crispy high trible because I've got a subwoofer already.
I like how you added ultra to the title. Nice!
I just realised why that is worthy of your comment, I didn't do it for the reason you messaged me about
Nice to see a review of affordable bookshelf speakers. Can't wait for your final wrap up.
Just received a pair of Evo 4.2 myself and am testing them. My set up:
Streamer/pre amp: BlueSound Node 2i (Tidal Master)
Amplifier XTZ Edge A2-300
Speakers Canton Chrono SL 570.2 DC, XTZ 99.25 LCR, Triangle Borea BR03
The Evos do need a "run in" time as they noticeably improve in hours. (Sean from Zero Fidelity noticed that as well)
I will post an update in a few weeks.
Thanks for this great review !😄👍
You selected a group of really good speakers especially for the price.
Quite impatient to hear your final thoughts on all of them, it will be quite difficult 😄
Have a nice Sunday
Superb breakdown. This is one of the best comparisons series on YT. Your approach to sound analysis is much appreciated.
Thanks very much man
Very interesting, There is only 3 RUclips audio reviewers, I feel like I can trust you are one of them. SVS offer a premium bookshelf speaker called the ultra which I'm sure you're well aware of, with a reasonable asking price in the US. Maybe I should take the prime series more seriously after your review. The SVS's would be more of a backup to my Linn Katan, which I have had since new (2007) one of the other speakers I am quite Intrested in is the B&W 707S2. I like that black piano finish sweet! Thanks alot for your review.
Thanks Terry for the great review as always. Since you have experience with SVS (e.g. SVS always delivers and never disappoint). If you could make an A/B comparison between SVS SB2000 PRO and Rel T7i/T9i for music listening that will be brilliant.
Current setup:
> Fyne Audio F501
> CXA 80
Thanks in advance!
Those REL subs are $200/$500 above the SVS SB-2000 Pro cost. Is cost not a factor?
@@zacharyshort384 The price difference is not that huge here in the UK/IE.
SVS SB2000 Pro - £ 999 (Gloss) / 899 (Black Ash)
REL T7i (Gloss) - £ 849
REL T9i (Gloss) - £ 999
Source: www.richersounds.com
Yes, price is within the price range. So not a factor. Thanks!
Pricing is very different in the USA. The SVS Prime cost half as much as the the Wharfedale Evo 4.2, $500 vs $1000. For $1000 you can get the SVS Ultra bookshelf speakers. That's the match up I was expecting.
I can only really go by the UK prices as its likely different all over the world.
@@PursuitPerfectSystem Totally understandable. I just wanted to point out the pricing differences for any other Yankees watching your channel. :)
Just seen this I did the same comment lol
Thanks for clarifying their fit for different applications (HT vs Music). Believe they are more suited for HT applications than for Music. Keep up the great work.
Great review! I’m really looking forward to adding these to my SVS setup as my rear surround
Thanks very much man and yes they will be great for that role
@@PursuitPerfectSystem - Change of plans. I was chatting with an SVS representative & it sounds like I’ll need to go with the Ultra Surrounds. Is there any chance you could review those speakers? There really don’t seem to be many reviews/sound demos of the Ultra Surrounds
Excellent review as always
Thanks man
I think the SVS Prime Bookshelf speakers were designed to be used with a subwoofer.
they can stand on their own 2 feet but maybe SVS had that in mind too
@@PursuitPerfectSystem I mean, they're a sub-first company, so it stands to reason they designed and anticipated an SVS sub to complete the sound *shrug*
Isn't that a positive? Becauae they can focus on top and mid range. For more base one can always add sub but not vice versa.
@@sanonmars It's spelled 'bass' in audio :)
You love to see a review of the evolution bookshelfs
I have the Evolution Titans here now, review coming soon
@@PursuitPerfectSystem I just got the Bookshelfs last week and loving them. Coupled with a PB2000. I heard the Evolution Pinnacle which where very nice. I look forward to your review...... love the channel. Keep up the great Vids, and Keep'em Spinning
I wouldn't expect them to have big bass. I am sure they are meant to be integrated with a sub.
always look forward to your reviews mate. I bet your missing your kef reference 3's in ur system lol
As a bass player, I'm all about deep but defined bass and a balanced soundstage. These might replace my PSB Image 2B speakers(I really like these!) and would be augmented by a REL Q108 subwoofer in my home theater system.
Great review 👍👌
Fantastic review I have a pair of Klipsch RP 600's and now I'm thinking.
Hopefully your thinking about pressing that sub button .... 😉 cheers
@@PursuitPerfectSystem : Absolutely preparing for order a SVS SUBWOOFER in a few weeks have been spending a lot of time reviewing them lately.
@@jameswheeler7679 haha I meant subscribe button it was joke mate but great haha
@@PursuitPerfectSystem 😆😂 Lol ok
Truly Honest & Comprehensive review ,loved it Thanks !
Thank you Anand
Hello Terry! Even if your review is so good and so detailed I still need your HELP! I have a small system composed from an Denon DRA 800-H + one pair of Wharfdale Evo 4.2 + one subwoofer SVS SB 1000. I am quite happy with the sound but I feel a lack of high and mid-range therefore, as the amplifier has another 2 speakers output maybe adding one pair of SVS Prime bookshelf I could solve the matter. In this moment it is a good 400 Euro offer for the pair.... I will really appreciate your and maybe your subscribers advice. Thank you in advance!
Thanks for touching on HT as well as music
Love my Prime Bookshelf speakers!
Mine just arrived yesterday and so far I’m really liking them. These are the most money I’ve spent on bookshelf speakers, well any speakers really. Did they sound better to you after the “burn in?” I’m using them with a Project Evo turntable.
Terry, Good reviews & methodology used. You seem to be very high on the EVO 4.2s? Are they "best" bang for the $ in this Bookshelf Category? Surprised you did not Include the KEF Q350s?
KEF didnt have any available for me that is the only reason why, I felt from this test yes the EVO 4.2 while not perfect and probably not for everyone offered a lot of speaker for the money
Terry, Even though you did not include the Kefs, i stumbled upon a pair at Accessories for Less for Recertified for $449. I pulled the trigger. I will run them in parallel with a pair of Elac Debut Reference speakers connected to my Denon DRA-800H Receiver at the rear of my Basement Studio that I created during the COVID hibernation of 2020. I also have a separate Integrated Amp IOTA SA3 and Emotiva A300 Amp to drive 2 pairs of bookshelf speakers- Elac Debut 6.2s and Fluance Signature Series Surround HiFi Bookshelf speakers in the front of the room. I use the Studio ( really just a finished basement), to listen to My Music and to play my resurrected pleasure of playing drums after a hiatus of 50 Years. I'm 69 , retired now due spinal / arthritic conditions. Take care, be safe in this madness of CVV.
Ha! You're reviewing ALL the speakers I'm looking at. Sounds like these are actual BOOKSHELF speakers vs needing stands? Would having stands help or hinder these?
Yeah that was the idea, stands give you more placement flexibility and will likely be better for getting better sound but you dont "need" them of course
@@PursuitPerfectSystem Cheers appreciated!
Excellent clear review. Subscribed.
Thank you and welcome
Excellent review, Can these Svs prime bookshelf speakers use with Yamaha A S500 2 channel stereo amp.
Very thorough review. Sir, most people in this price range won't have Dirac. Also that "matter-of-fact" midrange and "zippyness" from the tweeter may be an issue for some. When you corrected with Dirac at the top end, and recommend putting on the grills to tone it down you might have suggested to some that the SVS may be unforgiving on compressed, lower rez or just plain crappy recordings. We used to get customers with old '70s music on CD complaining that it sounded harsh and/or shrill. Audio sourced from phones could be frustrating as well, with the customer adamant that iTunes was as good or better than CD quality in all cases, sometimes we'd get lucky and have a better version of the same music or we'd show them different tracks from iTunes that sounded much better. I'd burn those speakers in for 80-100 hours, the treble may soften a tad and the bass warm up just a bit. A magazine review (in the U.S.) of the SVS tower speakers noted this exact symptom. I would have asked that you audition them with some two channel gear, priced to match. Someone spending mid 600's on bookshelf speakers isn't going to have 2, 3, or 4 thousand in an integrated amp, about the same in a CD/SACD player and another six grand in a music server/streamer/DAC. An audition with all of the speakers you mentioned with perhaps an entry level NAD integrated amp and CD player (or whatever you suggest in that price range) would be lovely. Perhaps a laptop with a cheap DAC instead of the CD if you'd like. The problem with that is if you use hiRez sources and people expect everything to sound like that, that's why I like using a CD player as a source. Well done
I think for this group test I wanted to push the speakers as much as I can so using the best system I can made sense to remove the system as a limitating factor.
Its impossible for a reviewer to predict how someone else's system will sound with the prime speakers because the potential variables are wildly different so I think its a losing battle trying to go that route.
Me mentioning that I preferred the sound with the grills on is not related to material or source quality its just how I preferred the speakers overall sound and its maybe something someone can try if they listen to the speaker and think the same as me.
Dirac is a different thing altogether as it provides me with a level of setup consistency and measurement and that allows me to hear past my room much better than without it and isolate what the hifi is doing better. A lot of potential customers of the prime speakers will have access to dirac within AV electronics from Arcam and NAD or miniDSP so its available at not crazy money :)
Thanks for watching and for the detailed comments I enjoyed reading them :)
Why would you use the prime instead of the ultra bookshelf I feel like it’s not a fair comparison as the evo 4.2 are 1k just as the ultra
Not in the UK they are not - this whole group test is speakers costing under £650
Nice comparison.
Good video, but a niggle I have is that you SHOULD have used SVS ULTRA bookshelfs which are in the same price range as others in your group ($1000 USD a pair).
Not in the UK, they are more expensive so they didn't meet the under £650 criteria I set.
Hello Everyone! I apologize in advance for this longer comment, I hope someone with more experiance and knowledge can help out as the internet articles were rather confusing that down right helpful. That said, I am new to this sphere of (sound) technology and am looking for a suiting Amplifier for future SVS Prime Bookshelf Speakers and SVS SB-1000 combination. So far I've owned few mini stereos and Home Theathers 5.1, and after thorough "research", solely based on RUclips Reviews and Comparisons, I came do decision that the previsouly mentioned Components are my go-to choice, from price stand point and what they deliver. What Reviews do not touch up on are suiting Amplifiers, and that's my current struggel. I don't know what to look for in a Amplifier and if it's a good fit for wished speakers and sub. My Amplifier (not Reciever) budget would be €450/$490. Hope someone here can help out with a useful comment. Thank You in advance!
Midfi!! Try a pair of YG Acoustics anything! You will be blown away prices start at 24 grand.
Your R2C is a eye catcher.
I know I probably should cover it over
Can’t really say the best, but what sounds good to the listener. To me, it’s not about measurements and graphs, but listening is key!!! Our ears tell what sound good to all of us. There is no such thing as the best sounding speaker or the best speaker period!
there is no one reviewing klipsch 600m vs svs ultra bookshelf,. im hoping you ll be the first
maybe check this video out ruclips.net/video/ZlWShSH5RRs/видео.html
Any chance that you can briefly mention how the AE300 sounds like, and what are the strengths and shortfalls? As there is someone selling a pair of this locally and deal closing very soon... (in about 11 hrs), cheers.
That review is next but I havent started it yet sorry
Shame you didn't put on the Warfedale Denton 85th Anniversary Edition speakers on here as they are in the under £600 price bracket and offer something different than the usual standmount speakers currently available.
In the USA the Warfedale Denton 85th Anniversary are $900 which is currently 687 pounds.
Terry what’s your favourite speaker so far bud?
I am not finished yet and its a bloody tough call
You get some headphones sponge no more than 5mm thick cut a hole for the tweeter double-sided tape stick it on the front plate of the tweeter will make it sound better calm down the harsh frequencies have the foam touching the cage slightly overlapping couple of mm 2 -3 mm but no tape. You might want to make it egg shape Oval in the vertical plane especially between the tweeter and woofer try round first
You need to do your measurements outside because what we are seeing is your room not necessary the speaker? Have the frequency sweep at 1-m between both drivers outside away from the building ideally 8 ft off the ground
Its the same room though so you can see how the different speakers present the sound in my room graphically - I am not getting into deep measurements - other people do that better than me. I only care about how it starts and then what I do to make it right - cheers John
You should include Oberon 3 in this review, dude.
How you think will be the sound if i take prime bookselfs with denon 4700h?🤔😌 For movies
So which would you say sounds better these or the klipsch 600m I’m starting my theater setup journey so I’m kinda stuck on these 2
It's a party speaker--which is great if that's what someone wants. Smooth frequency response? I get a 7 - 8 db. rise at ~1.5 kHz that drops back off around 2.5 kHz, confirmed by others' measurements, and which is a common feature in speaker models of this type, but more extreme than average. It gives a nice open definition in the sound to compare to when listening as someone pushes an A/B comparison switch briefly, but other than for selling speakers and powering rock 'n roll, it doesn't represent an especially accurate reproduction of a signal. They're just fun to play with.
Quick question...
If you upgrade your cables significantly, should you do another Dirac measurement?
Thanks man...love the videos!
I dont think so cables change your perception of sound they don't change a speakers freq response or impulse reponse which is what dirac is looking to improve but it won't hurt either - I have never done it after a cable change to say specifically
If I got a SVS PB-2000 Pro subwoofer, what would sound better, the SVS Prime Bookshelf or the Klipsch RP-600M II ?
They are different just depends on what you like
I recently found open box 606's for $265 usd. The matching center is out of my price range though. Do you think the SVS Prime Center would be a good match for them?
in an ideal world you would have them the same but you can make it work
@@PursuitPerfectSystem Thanks for the quick reply. I found an open box HTM6 so just bit the bullet and ordered it even though it was still a little over the budget
Seems like a great little speaker. Its a shame they don't appeal to me aesthetically
svs prime or klpisch rp600m which will you choose and why?
Wish I knew. A guy has the 600m for 400 and the primes for 500 and im torn.
@@stevenmetz5363 i went with kef was on sale on holidays no regret almost perfect
@@carbonoxx i pulled the trigger on the primes. Not sure if seller wanted higher sales and I got had or if he was being honest about the primes giving me a wider sound stage and less fatiguing.
@@stevenmetz5363 everyone said the primes are overpriced and lack bass......is that true?
@@carbonoxx ill know more by Wednesday stay tuned
They remind me of my old Tannoy m1's..
How do you rate q acoustics concept 20?
What about Polk r200?
Can you get away without a sub in a small room with these speakers?
You can get away with it if you load the speaker with room gain - but then you have to factor in bass management
So I have the ultras and I have a avr that only outputs 75w per channel. Do u think I would benefit in sound quality by getting an amp with 200w per channel or would it just make it louder because its already plenty loud.
I have mine on a 300wpc amp. Sounds better than the marantz 50watt a/v.
@@eddyleehall347 what amp you using?
I'm using a Crown xls1502.
How much did you pay for it? And how much would you take for it?
@@brandonbrodbeck6688 350$ open box. I actually have 3 1502's. The other 2 run my subs.
Try taking a shot every time this guy says "SVS prime bookshelf speakers"
A shot of what?
@@PursuitPerfectSystem I came across you video cause I'm thinking of getting these for my rear surrounds. I loved how you kept repeating " svs prime bookshelf speakers" in this review. Anyways, I was at a party having a good time when somebody asked "does anybody know of a new drinking game?" This video immediately popped into my head!. Well we had a great time taking shots of scotch whiskey every time you said it!. Great time we had!
I wonder if the Klipsch RP600 would do well as back surrounds? Anyone use them this way?
I haven't tried it but yes they could be great for it