Are the SVS Ultras Twice as Good as the SVS Primes?

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  • Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024
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Комментарии • 286

  • @cheapaudioman
    @cheapaudioman  3 года назад +7

    Tell me what your favorite obelisk is??????
    SVS Ultra Bookshelf bit.ly/2VT1ti6
    SVS Prime Bookshelf bit.ly/3g2dybY

    • @rcpv544
      @rcpv544 3 года назад

      Hey Randy How about adding the NHTC one's do your shoot out ? Or maybe review it in the future Thanks for the great channel

    • @offason
      @offason 3 года назад

      NHT 2.5i

    • @gondolier41413
      @gondolier41413 3 года назад

      Focal Chora 806 would be good competition for the Ultra Speakers

    • @tommccarthy3385
      @tommccarthy3385 3 года назад +2

      My favorite obelisk? Sith Audio headquarters on Mustafar.

    • @harnoorsingh2866
      @harnoorsingh2866 3 года назад

      Review Elac Vela, Navis and Carina

  • @silverpantsblue.1780
    @silverpantsblue.1780 3 года назад +73

    I am by no means an audiophile. I had no interest in speakers or home audio equipment, and yet I have binge watched this channel for 5 days now and feel quite comfortable that I could hold a conversation with any audiophile and at least fake it long enough to get a free second hand CD of their favorite unknown artist that they are dying to turn people on to.

    • @kohnfutner9637
      @kohnfutner9637 2 года назад +5

      Randy is down to earth and pretty honest. I don't agree with him that bookshelves are the way to go if you want full sound. I think bookshelves should stop around $350 and if you want big sound get floorstanders even if you're an audiophile.

    • @hydroaegis6658
      @hydroaegis6658 2 года назад

      ​@@kohnfutner9637 High end tweeters and woofers could cost more than that just for the drivers.

    • @shakenbake2k479
      @shakenbake2k479 2 года назад

      Lmao

    • @MechAdv
      @MechAdv Год назад

      @@kohnfutner9637 I agree except for the price point. Considering the tweeters in my towers are 400$ a piece at retail, and a good high excursion woofer from Morel or SEAS can set you back 500$ retail a piece in the enthusiast level price bracket, I’d say that a top of the line bookshelf speaker should be a 2-way unit for no more than 1000$ a piece. That way you can decide between a top of the line bookshelf with a good sub(an sb or pb 1000 is fine for pretty much any home system IMO) for 2500$, or a midrange set of 3-way towers for roughly the same price. That’s endgame hifi price bracket for me.

    • @michael-4k4000
      @michael-4k4000 Год назад

      Your an audiophile bud!

  • @canadianwildlifeservice8883
    @canadianwildlifeservice8883 3 года назад +18

    I finally did it. I actually grabbed a cup of coffee and sat down to watch the cheapaudioman.

    • @cheapaudioman
      @cheapaudioman  3 года назад +4

      Did it make the review better?

    • @canadianwildlifeservice8883
      @canadianwildlifeservice8883 3 года назад +4

      @@cheapaudioman Yep it made me feel like I was sitting in a Starbucks talking about speakers, drinking coffee together. :)

  • @ProductivePM
    @ProductivePM 3 года назад +19

    Favorite obelisck - Washington Memorial - looking good after all these years and I love Americana!

    • @RockCity1111
      @RockCity1111 3 года назад +1

      Rock on !!

    • @miata1492
      @miata1492 3 года назад

      @Greg Cimmarrusti: Ahhh, the obelisk is called the Washington Monument . . . .

    • @ProductivePM
      @ProductivePM 3 года назад

      @@miata1492 yes you are right of course, thank you

    • @miata1492
      @miata1492 3 года назад

      @@ProductivePM I lived in Washington, D.C. for 23 years . . . . ; - )

  • @Simon_Hawkshaw
    @Simon_Hawkshaw 2 года назад +10

    I cannot judge the Ultras against the Primes, as I do not own, or have heard the Primes, but the Ultras that I do own are amazing. Having listened to them now for a reasonable length of time, I can honestly say they are the best speakers I have ever owned. That may not mean much, but for the first time I have experienced 'sound stage' and 'imaging' that you often describe, with these speakers. Thank you again for your reviews and recommendations. You have reawakened my music listening pleasure.

  • @CharleyClose
    @CharleyClose 3 года назад +27

    Great review! I'm a big SVS fan. I own a SB-3000 sub, Prime Bookshelf and Ultra Bookshelf speakers. I agree with your assessment of the differences between the Primes and the Ultras. I'm a (retired) drummer/percussionist. Drums/percussion are also my true test of a speakers capabilities. Cymbals generate extremely complex sounds and dynamics, and are really challenging for a speaker to reproduce. Like you said, knowing what cymbals SHOULD sound like is very advantageous when evaluating speakers. The SVS Ultras do it very well. Full disclosure: I recently switched out my SVS Ultras (in my home office) for the Harbeth P3 ESR XD bookshelf speakers. The realism of vocals and instruments will blow you away! However, at a price tag of $3,300 per pair, they are not a good candidate for the "cheap audio man". But, if you ever get a chance to hear them, do it!

    • @swinde
      @swinde 2 года назад +4

      Thank you for your confirmation of the fact that cymbals are very hard to record and reproduce. I noticed this years ago and have yet to actually hear a system that sounds like a live band when the cymbals are prominent. The larger cymbals have a low frequency component that can be heard when they are live. It is hard to describe but it is there.

    • @DanzoSrife
      @DanzoSrife 2 года назад

      100% agree! ANY 16bit recording of cymbals sounds like crunchy cereal to me, but this dvd audio was so good , smooth and highs extended that it convinced for life, what real audio is. Comparing side by side the difference to me is big . Talking about BoA's best of soul 24 bit dvd-Audio on certain tracks.

    • @kerkiraz
      @kerkiraz Год назад

      Hiya I have the pb2000 sub and I’m sitting on the fence before I bite the bullet.
      In your humble opinion the Svs speakers paired with the sub for music is it a yes or would you recommend anything else?

    • @CharleyClose
      @CharleyClose Год назад +1

      @@kerkiraz hi Gary. I have the SB-3000 currently. I traded up from the SB-2000. I prefer the tightness of the sealed sub, especially with music. I currently use the SB-3000 with Harbeth P3ESR Bookshelves. It sounds incredible! I’ve also used my SB-3000 with SVS Prime Bookshelf and SVS Ultra bookshelf. Those systems also sounded great. I even hooked it up with my JBL Studio 590 towers. Also sounded wonderful. I really do think the SVS subs will blend with any speakers. The secret is getting the blend right between the sub and the main, and the crossover point. Once the setup is right, you won’t hear bass from the subs position. It will blend with your main speakers, and seem to extend the bass on the mains. You don’t want to hear bass coming from the subs position. The SVS website has a good subwoofer matching tool where you put in your main speaker brand and model, and it will recommend SVS subs to use, along with crossover frequency and roll off slope. Works pretty well as a starting point. Best of luck!

  • @thirdgenrx7
    @thirdgenrx7 3 года назад +11

    Have you ever considered creating alter egos midrangeaudioman and expensiveaudioman? Your reviews are the best! Not that I'm sucking up or anything. I'll go get my coffee.

    • @cheapaudioman
      @cheapaudioman  3 года назад +19

      That’s an absolutely awesome idea. I could dress all snooty and stuff and do an expensive review. Brilliant. Absolutely brilliant

    • @canadianwildlifeservice8883
      @canadianwildlifeservice8883 3 года назад

      The thing about high end is most people end up talking more about their gear and the fancy cables than how it actually sounds. cheapaudioman is pretty much the exact opposite.

    • @ramondelgado6778
      @ramondelgado6778 3 года назад

      @@cheapaudioman OMG!!! This would be an EXCELLENT idea!!!!

    • @ramondelgado6778
      @ramondelgado6778 3 года назад

      Great idea! Most of us would really enjoy this!

    • @svalbard01
      @svalbard01 3 года назад +3

      @@cheapaudioman Top hat and monocle, please.

  • @GorhamWorks
    @GorhamWorks 3 года назад +7

    Great break down!! Makes me want to try some ultras out. I have some primes and love them, they’re hard to beat. Love your approach and honesty in this audio environment, things can get snobby fast! Thanks for being down to earth and real world!

    • @cheapaudioman
      @cheapaudioman  3 года назад +4

      Thank you. Primes are great and I love mine. If you go with the ultras I think you’ll be able to hear a difference. I don’t know if it will be monumental but the ultras really handle everything effortlessly

    • @GorhamWorks
      @GorhamWorks 3 года назад +1

      @@cheapaudioman that is good to know. I'm seriously considering a set for my office. When I got my prime towers, prime center, and bookshelves for the livingroom I was so excited. I had them hooked up in my office to an old Yamaha CR 620 stereo that afternoon just to play with them 2 at a time. I got nothing done that day just playing music and listening. Wifey was on video calls downstairs and the madman redoing the livingroom wouldn't of been approved. I haven't had anything up there since. It's been almost 2 years now. SVS makes really good stuff. The book shelves were the right size...and I was beyond impressed. The prime towers, not even the pinnacle towers were nothing short of magical. Just too big for a full time spot. If the Ultras have their small foot print, their detail, and not fatiguing... That sounds like greatness. Btw you should def continue your drumming lessons for your daughter. I play drums and have a kit in that office sometimes you just got to rock out man! Enjoy listening man!

  • @matthewharhai4039
    @matthewharhai4039 3 года назад +2

    Glad to see such a comparison! Returned my Prime Bookshelves for a pair of Prime Pinnacle Towers! Just got em today

  • @evanthomasbruneau
    @evanthomasbruneau Год назад +1

    Yo! Since you've been a consistent inspiration for me, I've recently gifted both my brothers a pair of sscs5s and a ayima t9 amp. I've obtained a130s, sscs5s, svs primes and stage a190s. I took your bookshelf's are better than towers to heart and will continue to expand the collection. I love swapping out different sets in different rooms etc...thanks for the passion for music and listening

  • @lanegeisewite1436
    @lanegeisewite1436 3 года назад +7

    Absolutely love the SVS Ultra! Highly recommend them for anybody who plays music or movies! Phenomenal! Speaker kicks ass!

    • @tainle
      @tainle Год назад

      pretty expensive bookshelf speakers though

  • @ginom407
    @ginom407 3 года назад +33

    Nobody breaks it down like the Cheap-Audio-Man!!!! Looking forward to the SVS, Wharfedale, Elac Shootout! 👍👍👍

    • @rosswarren436
      @rosswarren436 3 года назад +2

      Yes, trying to decide on something in the $600 range to replace some old JBL speakers in my den (double duty for music and movies paired with a modest Polk sub)....SVS Prime, Ultra, Wharfedale Diamond 12.2, or the ELAC Uni-fi B5.2....His review of the B5.2 makes it sound like a very hard to beat speaker. Just hard to believe a little 5" woofer can deliver such sound....

    • @erics.4113
      @erics.4113 3 года назад +1

      @@rosswarren436 they do. I just bought them and klipsch rp600m.
      Although both sound dramatically different, there is no size envy between the two and I would even say the smaller ELAC have better bass. Not more. Better.
      And I've recently added a sub to the mix and it has improved both to my taste... I like deep fat bass.
      I'm also loving both with tone controls. You can boost the low a little on each speaker and they sound better in my opinion.

    • @kohnfutner9637
      @kohnfutner9637 2 года назад +1

      Joentell is good too

    • @kohnfutner9637
      @kohnfutner9637 2 года назад +3

      @@rosswarren436 I always end up replacing bookshelves with full range towers and my rooms aren't that big. Are you sure you want bookshelves? Don't think 5" is going to magically fill a room with incredible bass- it won't. If you want powerful bass I suggest getting floorstanders. I think most reviewers over rate bookshelf bass:. They can be impressive for the size but don't expect miracles: expect to get maybe a little more than you expect but not much more.
      A few examples: I went from Klipsch 600m to 280f and it's a drastic improvement. I went from Elac ub5 to JBL studio 580 and again much more impact.
      Bookshelves just can't do the impact, dynamics or room shaking bass that a full range speaker will. If you want big sound you'll need big speakers take it from me. I have moved my bookshelves to the rear. I don't play music loud and I like audio purity, I'm not a basshead, but I have yet to be satisfied with bookshelf speakers.

    • @rosswarren436
      @rosswarren436 2 года назад

      @@kohnfutner9637 I went with the Diamond 12.2. They have a 6.5" mid-woofer and get down to 50 Hz, a bit lower with extension. But yeah, I don't expect bass miracles from them, that's why have have them paired with a Polk subwoofer rolling over at 80 Hz. For my den, they are all I need.
      But I hear you on size and scale. In my living room (about 12' x 22') I have some floor standers...some ancient Acoustic Research AR-9 speakers, but they need new capacitors to bring them back to spec and to make playing them safe for the tweeters. Because of that I'm considering some others to use until I can get around to that chore of recapping them.
      Thinking of the Wharfedale Linton or maybe one of the Paradigm true floor standers. Klipsch is great, don't get me wrong, but I prefer a slightly warmer, more laid back presentation.
      If I do get the Lintons to tide me over, I'd probably end up with a SVS sub too, then sell them to my nephew if and when I can get the AR-9s going again.
      I think many like bookshelf speakers because they visually don't overwhelm a room, are easy to move if you want to experiment with placement affecting the sound, and are cheaper overall.
      But yeah, at the end of the day, bookshelf speakers on stands take up just as much room as floor standers, and the money spend on stands (which can be crazy depending on which ones you choose) is money that could be put towards a floor stander.

  • @bradthurkle7217
    @bradthurkle7217 2 года назад +2

    I finally bought the Ultra’s mate. Thanks for your expert advice. Your right about Matalica on them with snare. So clear like it’s incredible. Love these speakers. Got them in my theater room and I’m having a ball mate cheers .

  • @ryandevry
    @ryandevry 3 года назад +2

    I've been eyeing these for a while now.... Ended up going with b&w 706s2 ..... But I still am interested in these for my bedroom. Thanks for the review!

  • @zardoz2627
    @zardoz2627 3 года назад +7

    Favorite obelisk? 2001: A Space Odyssey Monolith of course.

  • @Vmole1
    @Vmole1 3 года назад +4

    Tool's Eulogy-- plinking sounds at the beginning are Adam picking behind the bridge. The wanh-wanh sound is Maynard singing through a megaphone with the bell removed into the mic while keying it to the rhythm.

  • @KenB-bo6kr
    @KenB-bo6kr 2 года назад +1

    Thanks for sharing your Amazon playlists. To is helping me hear the detail that u discuss in your videos

  • @roddyrod8348
    @roddyrod8348 3 года назад +1

    At 15:22 , the word you might be looking for what you are describing is the "transients" of the treble notes. Great review, keep up the good work!

  • @marks7646
    @marks7646 2 года назад +3

    Just bought the ultras for just $400 from a friend. Loved it!

  • @DeepBarney
    @DeepBarney 3 года назад +14

    I have no interest in these speakers at all, but between the clear passion he has for the subject, the way he brings it down for me non-audiophile mortals like me, and the voice, I can just listen to this dude talk about speakers all day.

    • @crossocean5663
      @crossocean5663 3 года назад

      Good you identified that neither of them are audiophile

    • @cheapaudioman
      @cheapaudioman  3 года назад +25

      @@crossocean5663 oh Cross. Please link the audiophile certification process so that I may ensure that I adhere to the strict audiophile stands and measurements committee.

    • @thedirtydutchman9749
      @thedirtydutchman9749 3 года назад +6

      @@crossocean5663 go play in traffic

    • @offason
      @offason 3 года назад +2

      @@thedirtydutchman9749 😂

  • @davidsmithson9236
    @davidsmithson9236 3 года назад +4

    Obelisk Of The Month Club says August is “Cleopatra’s Needle” centerfold pop-up issue.

  • @Frip36
    @Frip36 2 года назад +1

    I love my Ultras. I've had them for a year now. Bought them because of this guy Cheapaudioman, and a couple of other guys.

  • @svalbard01
    @svalbard01 3 года назад +4

    0:50 I believe Sean from Zero Fidelity refers to these as "performance envelopes."

  • @pdcragin33
    @pdcragin33 2 года назад

    Apppreciated your talk on the percussive aspects of treble.

  • @GTsmokeya1
    @GTsmokeya1 3 года назад +3

    My favorite obelisk is when I get up in the morning.

  • @1mctous
    @1mctous 3 года назад +6

    Drums, cymbals, and piano are the most difficult to reproduce well because of their wide dynamic and frequency range. Likewise xylophone and distorted electric guitar quickly reveal treble and crossover issues. A speaker or headphone that passes both tests goes onto my short list.

  • @murraycampbell1548
    @murraycampbell1548 3 года назад +2

    I’m gonna’ have to go with Mr Kubrick and his Space Odyssey, Randy.

  • @RandomUser6947
    @RandomUser6947 3 года назад

    Actually looking at these speakers at the moment. Thank you, for breaking down the differences between them.

  • @Jrodgrabo
    @Jrodgrabo 3 года назад +7

    Have you reviewed any RSL products yet? Curious how they compare to SVS and ELAC

  • @DougMen1
    @DougMen1 3 года назад +1

    For anyone interested, and who likes to listen before buying, and with easier returns (if there's a store near you), Best Buy has SVS speakers, as well as Wharfedale, KEF, Elac, B&W, Martin Logan, Klipsch, DefTech, JBL, Dali, KLH, and Sony. Of course, all models may not be available in all stores

  • @KeithCopeland778
    @KeithCopeland778 2 года назад +2

    I don't mean to knit pick, but timbre is pronounced tamber as in lamb. A lot of people get this wrong. Thank you for a very comprehensive comparison. I'm very impressed with the Prime RUclips videos that I've seen. Now I need to watch some Ultra RUclips videos! Yup, treble is also very important for bass clarity. At least it is for me as a bassist!

    • @dingdong2103
      @dingdong2103 Год назад

      Also the 8 ohm nominal is impedance, not resistance.

  • @francescotenti193
    @francescotenti193 3 года назад +2

    For proper "words transport" those certified envelopes are a must!

  • @Chr1s520
    @Chr1s520 3 года назад +2

    The Washington Monument is, without question, my favorite obelisk.

  • @johnstump2433
    @johnstump2433 3 года назад

    I had to go back and listen to your explanation of the tweeters for a second time because I couldn’t concentrate on what you were saying the first time because my OCD kicked in big time staring at your turntables stacked on top of each other in the background..lol

  • @gavinwhittle7152
    @gavinwhittle7152 2 года назад +1

    I was driving the Primes in 2 ch. through a Yamaha 5.1 receiver and the cheapest Jamo sub. Ok...put it in "Direct" mode, straight analog, which kills the sub (million forums discuss this)...holy moly. The audio "center" appeared and it sounded great, even had bass. Have an Ultra Bookshelf as a center. Want to just upgrade one Prime and do a switcheroo. This setup for movies and music is not bad (SVS Satellites for rear, and the Jamo sub doesn't affect music, but makes action movies that much better...for an apartment).

  • @jonathanbailie
    @jonathanbailie 2 года назад

    Hey man! Love the vids, great content 👍 Don't know if I'm an audiophile or not, but I love good, clean sound, from movies and music, and being on a somewhat low budget keeps me constantly looking for deals and great value. Some great, honest reviews here, and it's much appreciated!

  • @calibre00
    @calibre00 3 года назад +1

    You should call this segment 'Between Two Speakers'
    Great video 👍

  • @marcorossi1763
    @marcorossi1763 2 года назад +3

    Speakers aren’t food or drinks, when you spend twice as much, it doesnt have to be twice as good because you can keep the speakers for a long, long time. What’s 200 vs 400 for example over 10 years and thousands of hours of listening?
    Btw, big fan of what you do

    • @moniack
      @moniack 2 года назад

      That was my thinking about spending the extra money on the Ultras vs getting the Prime towers for the same price. Plus I got them during an outlet blowout sale and saved $400 (one has a tiny scratch on top).

  • @jjulian1783
    @jjulian1783 2 года назад +2

    Joe Walsh “Life’s Been Good” is my favorite test track.

    • @5675492
      @5675492 2 года назад +1

      " The Confessor " is another good one .

  • @ytvideos101
    @ytvideos101 3 года назад +1

    For sound stage and imaging...my fav is Gerry Rafferty - Right Down The Line. Helps me dial in treble.
    🔥🙌❤️

  • @joeygonzo
    @joeygonzo 3 года назад +3

    When GR Research opened one, I was shocked . Aluminum wires even. Ugh!

  • @odwatchguy
    @odwatchguy 3 года назад

    Great review Randy. Bigger, better, brighter. Sounds like everyone I competed with growing up.

  • @popcornvideo9319
    @popcornvideo9319 3 года назад

    lol listening to the legwarmer playlist...wow takes this old man back

  • @donlew8222
    @donlew8222 2 года назад

    Thank you Randy! These Ultras sound amazing!
    Could not be happier. :-)

  • @richardkaye5369
    @richardkaye5369 2 года назад +1

    I just bought those envelopes and I must say, as an audiophile, they are fantastic. Sweet lows smooth mids and the highs blow me alway

  • @thekingjr.554
    @thekingjr.554 3 года назад +4

    The Svs ultra or the css audio 1td? I don’t know which to pick your input would help a lot. Awesome review by the way.

    • @spooner1
      @spooner1 2 года назад

      Probably too late of a response. Css Audio. Definitely.

  • @donhuntley6466
    @donhuntley6466 3 года назад

    The one on the cover of Who's Next, the wet marks are timeless.

  • @rileykgardner
    @rileykgardner 2 года назад +1

    I love SVS. I have the entire SVS Ultra set. Towers, Center, Surrounds, and soon Bookshelves. Along with 4 Prime Elevations and 2 SB-3000s. That creates my 7.2.4 system. I also have the Prime Pinnacles in my office 2ch system. I will be getting another sub in the future for that system.
    I am using the Prime Pinnacles as my surrounds, but I am putting the Bookshelves there when they arrive later this week.

    • @rileykgardner
      @rileykgardner 2 года назад

      And all mine are the black oak/ash finish. No gloss for me.

    • @abgersaurus
      @abgersaurus Год назад

      Hi Riley!
      I currently have an Ultra center, do you think that it would pair somewhat with the Prime Satellites? Unfortunately I do not have room for bigger mains yet

    • @rileykgardner
      @rileykgardner Год назад

      @@abgersaurus I don’t know! Never heard the satellites before! You can always try them and return them if they don’t sound good. But you will definitely need a sub or two though along with the satellites.

    • @abgersaurus
      @abgersaurus Год назад

      @@rileykgardner I already have a SB-2000, I’ll just have to try it I guess. Thanks though!

  • @aaronnelson1191
    @aaronnelson1191 6 месяцев назад

    Awesome review. Great information. Thank you.

  • @XiMu1
    @XiMu1 Год назад

    @4minutes and 20 seconds Randy sings "Ring-O-Round the Woofer".

  • @quikspecv4d
    @quikspecv4d 3 года назад +2

    When both these speakers came out they were a great deal. Nowadays they are the same price but many other speakers like Elac have come out and evolved. I think SVS needs to drop the price of these to stay competitive. So much more to choose from at this price point or lower now.

    • @Gary_M
      @Gary_M 3 года назад +1

      If that was the case they wouldn't hold their resale value so well.

  • @vorteco7692
    @vorteco7692 2 года назад

    I’ve had these ultra’s for 2 years now. I run them alone. Just these two on stands in my living room. I’ve used just this pair for the last 2 years. From time to time, I feel unimpressed with them. I’ll turn them up and bam! I’m impressed again. The imagine is good. The sound these produce is impressive for their size.
    After listening to these for 2 years, I’m still unsure if I want to do a 3.1 setup with all ultra or try a different brand and use these as a stereo speaker set for another purpose.
    I love mine and do not regret buying them. These really shine on piano, vocals, and acoustic versions of songs. That’s where they impress me. I can FEEL the music on acoustic songs. For instance “Bowl for two” by the expendable sis much more enjoyable in the acoustic version vs the regular version. I agree with what you said about Adele Hello. Also the 14 second mark of Metallica. Also the beastie boys. I listened to these and paused this video when you mentioned them. Spot on.
    I agree what you say about turning them up. They seem calm and natural. Effortless when turned up. When listened to at low volume, they seem to lose a lot of their dynamic range.

  • @josexavierjr.5633
    @josexavierjr.5633 3 года назад +1

    Once a drummer, always a drummer! I'm a drummer too. Your references to drum sounds with speakers always got my attention, especially the "Sinnerman" highat sound. I would probably go with the Primes, or wait for a crazy SVS sale................. "The Ocean" by Led Zeppelin has great drum sound.......................BTW, my favorite obelisk is the one used in "2001: A Space Odyssey".

    • @josexavierjr.5633
      @josexavierjr.5633 3 года назад

      @Douglas Blake Agreed on that, John Densmore had a great feel with the Doors. Jazz drumming with the Rock feel….

  • @leolleiten4910
    @leolleiten4910 3 года назад +1

    Obelisk at Buenos Aires, Argentina. Beautiful

  • @greenbeginner3353
    @greenbeginner3353 3 года назад +1

    Favorite obelisk: The Obelisk by Shahinian Acoustics. Been in production since 1977. First read about these in Stereophile back when J Gordon Holt was still going strong. Actually got a listen to them back around ‘95. I’d buy a pair in a minute if I had a good sized room and a good sized bank account.

  • @josephchamberlain3681
    @josephchamberlain3681 3 года назад

    I enjoy the channel, you make reviews informative and fun to watch at the same time. I do hope that you expand into some better recorded reference songs to test the speakers with. Yosi Hirokawa has a track called "bubbles" that you should check out at some point. It's a great way to gauge your speaker's ability to wrap the whole room in sound as well as hear nuances, detail , and realism. Give it a shot! Looking forward to more videos! Thanks for the humor and hard work.

    • @cheapaudioman
      @cheapaudioman  3 года назад +1

      I may give it a listen but that’s not really my bag. Lots of other folks talk about those types of tracks. I like my music and I know my music well so that’s what I reference.

  • @JohnScheppler
    @JohnScheppler 3 года назад +1

    SVS sounds like great rock n roll speakers giving you the extra punch which makes sense coming from a superior subwoofer company.

  • @DomRivers67
    @DomRivers67 3 года назад +3

    At £999 here in the UK Vs £599 for the Wharfedale Evo 4.2's I'm beginning to wonder if watching US hi fi comparisons have any value to me at all lol

  • @34332
    @34332 3 года назад

    'Burning tires'. Didn't see that one comin' ;)
    I was considering the smaller SVS, but after your review, the Ultra seems a very rewarding step up. Nice review, this really helps me paying attention to the things (and music) that matters when auditioning (in general).

  • @alm5693
    @alm5693 3 года назад +1

    Favorite obelisk: The Foshay Tower. An Art Deco office tower that was the tallest building in Minneapolis until the IDS Tower was built in 1972.

    • @cheapaudioman
      @cheapaudioman  3 года назад +1

      Finally. Someone puts in their favorite obelisk

    • @alm5693
      @alm5693 3 года назад +1

      @@cheapaudioman I think there were a couple mentions of the Washington Monument in there before me. All obelisks matter. 🙂

    • @alm5693
      @alm5693 3 года назад +1

      Per Wiki: Foshay invited 25,000 guests to the dedication ceremony and provided all-expenses paid trips to many who included cabinet members, senators and congressmen. Half-nude dancers entertained. Each guest received a gold pocketwatch. The military gave 19-gun salutes. John Philip Sousa conducted music, including the "Foshay Tower-Washington Memorial March," a march he wrote for the occasion. Foshay presented Sousa with a check for US$20,000....Foshay's check to Sousa bounced, and in retaliation, Sousa prohibited the playing of the march so long as Foshay's debt to him remained outstanding. It wasn't until 1988 when a group of Minnesota investors repaid Foshay's debt to Sousa's estate that the march was permitted to be played in public again.

  • @divorceddawg
    @divorceddawg 3 года назад +1

    “The Object” from the Led Zeppelin album “Presence”. Probably not your everyday Obelisk, but I think Sith audio would agree that it’s an Obelisk.

  • @Subzero2281
    @Subzero2281 Год назад

    Just subscribed!! Good stuff!!

  • @rosswarren436
    @rosswarren436 3 года назад +1

    Favorite obelisk: the one in 2001: A Space Odyssey. 2nd favorite one: My ancient Acoustic Research AR 9 speakers... ;-)

  • @kohnfutner9637
    @kohnfutner9637 2 года назад +3

    I think the question: is any audio piece worth more? That depends on how much of an audiophile you are. If you're not real picky then probably not but if audio is your passion then it's probably worth getting what you want within your price range. I've never regretted spending more for better quality but I have regretted spending less for lesser quality. Wait for a sell or buy used.

  • @moniack
    @moniack 2 года назад +1

    The SVS ultra bookshelfs are the same price as the Prime towers you recently reviewed. If you had a sub, and I do, which would you choose? Thinking Ultra bookshelf is the way to go based on WAF and overall sound. Plus gloss black is free. Update- bought some during the outlet sale for a a couple hundred more than new Prime bookshelves.

  • @veeclash4157
    @veeclash4157 2 года назад +2

    Those tweeters aren't the same though. LOL. I've seen the insides of those Ultras and the crossover can definitely be upgraded. Pretty amazing how good they sound without upgrades, how much better do they get when you install upgrades, improve the crossover and caps, etc.?

  • @ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOP519
    @ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOP519 3 года назад

    Got the primes for my birthday. Blown away

  • @berkut6313
    @berkut6313 3 года назад

    Favorite Obelisk is the Louxor one on the place de la Concorde in Paris. I can help it, but just walk like an Egyptian every time I pass by...

  • @donlew8222
    @donlew8222 Год назад

    Ha! Thanks to this vid, I purchased both pair! Love 'em.

  • @NeoRimeOnline
    @NeoRimeOnline 2 года назад

    Washington Monument or that mysterious metal monument that was popping up in random places. Those are my 2 favorite monuments.

  • @markmiller3713
    @markmiller3713 Год назад

    My favorite obelisk is in the middle of St. Peter's Square.

  • @raycimbalnik5159
    @raycimbalnik5159 3 года назад

    About time we audiophiles get recognized in other industries! Lol love the videos man!

  • @lukerabin5079
    @lukerabin5079 3 года назад +3

    2001 a Space Odyssey, of course!

  • @carlitomelon4610
    @carlitomelon4610 3 года назад

    My favorite Obelix is the big guy in the Astorix the Gaul cartoons!

  • @jacoblynch9862
    @jacoblynch9862 3 года назад +1

    I have really got to get some of those audio file envelopes to mail stuff that I never mail and since I never write anything down anymore since I'm completely blind but I still got to get some of those those have got to be sweet

  • @ericperry72
    @ericperry72 2 года назад

    Have you seen the bookshelf hybrid speakers from Kingsound, Princess iii? Electrostatic midrange and highs with a nice ported woofer. The electrostat driver sits on top of the enclosure and is design to either move up towards the front baffle or back to give the panel a built in time delay.

  • @intenttoinjure
    @intenttoinjure 3 года назад

    Love the protruding tweeter

  • @williamcanada6195
    @williamcanada6195 3 года назад

    Obélisque de Louxor Place de la Concorde, Paris! 2) The Washington Monument ( Spécial mention because the Triangle is made of Aluminum because it was considered to ba a Precious metal at that time !)

  • @RockCity1111
    @RockCity1111 3 года назад

    Hey Randy it's Eye of the beholder from Metallica I use for testing songs. When put Harvester of sorrow for some reason I thought it was the same as u use because Harvester is my 2nd favorite song on Justice for all . Eye of the beholder being my favorite

  • @davidlittle7182
    @davidlittle7182 Год назад

    Cleopatra's Needle has to be in my Top 5 Obelisks list

  • @joelane4670
    @joelane4670 2 года назад +1

    Love to have the ultras.but are they worth double the price for a movie lover?

  • @robertstorms4722
    @robertstorms4722 3 года назад

    SeaWorld? You probably can't choose the commercials. Love your show.

  • @adamjj85
    @adamjj85 3 года назад +1

    Looking forward to the shootout. How would you rank these to everything else you've heard at this price range?

  • @gordoa172
    @gordoa172 3 года назад +1

    Great review as always Brother! Several obelisks all over Philly where I can from. They are definitely interesting. How are the Svs with the vintage amplifiers?

    • @cheapaudioman
      @cheapaudioman  3 года назад +2

      Gordo! Vintage is like butter and bacon. It’s goes with everything

  • @youridv
    @youridv 3 года назад

    Recently watched a dac/headphone amp video of yours and wondered if you've ever checked out any of FiiO's offerings. I've had a FiiO K5 Pro for a while now and use it solely as a headphone dac/amp and so far I quite like it. I got it for 179 euro's but idk how much it is in the US. It's also got RCA out's which are volume controlled by the knob on the front so it might be a decent dac/pre amp for speakers too.
    Maybe it's something for you to check out,too

  • @legrandgroves8560
    @legrandgroves8560 3 года назад

    Cleopatras needle! Favorite !

  • @neutron564
    @neutron564 2 года назад

    The Washington Monument is my favorite obelisk

  • @lonnien.clifton1113
    @lonnien.clifton1113 Год назад

    ONE DAY I HOPE SVS WILL MAKE A 12inch DRIVER IN THE PRIME PINNACLE

  • @ewhibs
    @ewhibs Год назад +1

    What is that picture above your left shoulder? 😳

  • @Almansa403s
    @Almansa403s 3 года назад +1

    I'd love to hear your opinion on the Focal Chora 806's

  • @astrotrance
    @astrotrance 3 года назад

    Favorite obelisk? This one from Stargate: Universe.
    "The Obelisk is a massive 2000 foot high structure built by an unknown alien race who created both a planet and a star. Its origin and purpose are unknown, though it did emit a faint EM field. There were some markings that indicated that an alien language was written over the surface of the Obelisk."
    I think for the price I'd rather have the Primes and an sb-1000 than the Ultras.

  • @brandonbrodbeck6688
    @brandonbrodbeck6688 3 года назад

    Another of my favorite guys doing my speakers oh it's a good day. Just wanna say I got them for so cheap I didn't care if they sounded that great but boy did they was a good surprise. I think some of it has to do with me already having a denon avr heard they are a Good match so got lucky with that

  • @stephenstevens6573
    @stephenstevens6573 3 года назад +1

    The object...from Led Zeppelin Presence

  • @kohnfutner9637
    @kohnfutner9637 2 года назад

    Randy I wish you could check out some:
    1. Dali
    2. Aperion
    3. Tekton Design
    4. Ohm
    5. Magnepan
    6. B&W
    I know they're not all possible but maybe you have some tie to one of those brands I just wanted to make a request.

  • @SamuelBarrPhotography
    @SamuelBarrPhotography 3 года назад

    Randy, would you recommend the Ultra's over the Primes for a bedroom setup? Looking to pair them with a tube amp. Thanks for the review!

  • @leonardblush2557
    @leonardblush2557 3 года назад +1

    Ultra vs CSS?

  • @911jason
    @911jason 3 года назад +1

    The Ultras are available in black ash and piano black, according to their website. Not white, though.

  • @kevmacs807
    @kevmacs807 2 года назад

    Hi thanks for this!
    Q. I’m looking at getting the Emotiva C1+ or C2+ centre channel but not sure if the C2 price hike is worth it? Have you listened / compared these. I’m kinda on a budget. Looking for best bang for the buck.
    So my new setup once everything comes back into stock would be:
    Receiver: Onkyo TX-RZ50
    Sub: RSL Speedwoofer 10s
    L/R: Emotiva B1+
    Center: either C1+ or C2+
    I’m going to use old Bose Acuoustimass for sides, rear and atmos as I’ve heard spending more money on those is not worth it.
    Thoughts on this setup? Is there something I’m missing or should swap out?
    Thanks

  • @scrout
    @scrout 3 года назад

    Bob Ross voice: We're going to put some friendly little bass coloration right here, there we are....that's nice.....

  • @aeidein
    @aeidein 2 года назад

    Thanks. It sounds like it's hard to quantify. I think it would've been nice to make an attempt though. The impression I get is not quite twice as much, maybe 30%?