Thank you very much for this review. I have just purchased this model direct from the manufacturer and am awaiting delivery. The info regarding the power lead is really useful should my unit turn up with the European plug. Also the preparation instructions were clear and simple. Many thanks again. Harry.
hh15031965 thanks for taking the time to watch the video and comment. The only step I did differently to the instruction is give the cedar a quick wipe down with distilled water, the manual does not recommend this, I have only done this as I’ve seasoned many humidors so just bare that in mind when seasoning your own humidor, on reflection I didn’t really need to damp the wood at all but it’s done no harm. The RH level has been rock solid and the temps have been perfect, the only bug Bare is the sound it makes, it’s very loud. Good luck with the new humidor.
Darren Illsley thank you very much, sorry the video wasn’t the most detailed, once I have had the humidor a bit longer I’ll do something more in-depth. Thank you for the subscription.
BlueLightCigars Just of of interest, Where do you buy your cigars? Want to know if you think cigar subscriptions are worth it. Personally I’m toying with the idea but I’m set in my ways.
Darren Illsley great question; I like the subscriptions, I’ve been thinking about the privada one recently as a matter of fact. Cgars do a couple of good ones in the U.K. also. I don’t buy from any one place really, I use multiple stores and websites, most common one is cgars but I’ve used others and when I get a chance to go overseas I see if I can pick up some sticks also.
BlueLightCigars will give it a go. Forgot to ask is the wood in the humidor cedar? (Can’t find any info on that) I’m a bit apprehensive if it ain’t. I need to upgrade to something as the collection is getting a bit large. Was looking at the newair but seem to be sold out everywhere.so this seems the next big thing
Darren Illsley on this particular model is it Spanish cedar yes. On the smaller model it is beechwood. So just double check with the model you are looking to get.
Brilliant, hope you enjoy your purchase, the only thing I’d do differently if I was to buy another is I don’t know if I’d bother with the wetting of the cedar…I think I’d just leave the boveda 84% in there for 14 days, either way works just as fine but would save a step in the set up process. Enjoy your humidor and thank you for the kind words.
Cheers for sharing this. I’m in the uk and I’ve been looking for a product review of this as all I see is new air but as you know that’s in the states. Great video it’s good to see the size, noise all those bits. Nice one fella
The Collectors Vault hey thank you for taking the time to comment. I like you could only find the new air also so when I decided to take the plunge and buy this, I figured there would be others out there like me who would benefit from it. Have a great day.
ok i contacted klarstein about replacement shelves,, "not a cat in hells chance" anyway i set it all up. took 2 days temp and humidity holding steady , suprisingly no noise at all coming from unit . so i guess i,ll be keeping it
Recently bought the El Presidente 33. The buzzing is driving me mental. It's only cools if the set temp is lower than ambient temp. I set the temp higher than the room temp so the fan doesn't need to come on and it still buzzes so loud the Samsung TV has to be on volume level 13 to drown it. When I lowered,the temp during recent heatwave and the fan was running too, it sounded like someone was doing the carpets.
- Flavz I have it unplugged when the temps are ok, I have 4 hygrometers in the unit to keep an eye on it. If it gets to high then I turn it back on as the buzzing noise was driving me mental also.
@@bluelightcigars7032 i have swapped fans with some Noctua fans, it's dead silent now, it's kinda no brainer and first thing i knew i have to do once i turned on this thing, that buzzing was unbearable
@@bluelightcigars7032 let me know if you need any help, cause it was quite tricky due to fans from the humidor coming with 2 pin connectors. I had to buy one extra specific model noctua fan just for the 2 pin connector which comes with it, plus some cables. Fan which is inside, I had to cut wires and tinker with supplied cables to work, fan which is at the back I just used 2pin adapter. That 2 pin adapter not coming with just any fan, if you need info I will write you models which I used. It's well worth it!
Well i received my Klarstein El Presidente 65L. I ordered the silver model with cedar drawers, when i unboxed it yesterday i found it only had a silver bezel on the front. but the worst part was that the drawers and shelves are made of Beechwood Now, i could return it , but that would be a real pain in the ass, they offered my a 25 pound refund for any inconvenience , i,ve asked them if they can send me replacement drawers in spanish cedar , we will see what happens, but not very hopeful, Just thought i would share this for anyone considering buying one i,ll keep you updated
chris lee thank you for the update, I’m really sorry to hear that though. Hope they manage to fix it for you! Have they admitted fault? That it should be cedar for the 65?
Any review on the humidor after 3 years please because I’m thinking of buying on of these Is it loud? Odor of plastic remaining? Keeps the humidity levels stable? Thank you very much !
I'd also like to know if it can be set colder than 18, like to 14-15 degrees? I want to age Cuban cigar for decades so I want 15 degrees and 65 humidity
I would yes, the only thing i would state is the humidor took a while to settle, probably close to a month for the humidity to stabilise but its been a while now and its been spot on. I only turn it on in the summer months as that's the only time i need to bring the temperatures down. But yes, i would still recommend it or other like it for sure :)
I’ve just purchased the smaller version. Can I ask once you had the 84RH in for two weeks what was the next step? Take them out and replace with 69RH and let it settle to that before you put your cigars in? Great video by the way
First of all, thanks for reviewing the Klarstein, have been looking for this:) Now that you had this unit for a couple months, how is it? Does it maintain the temp well? Greetings
No problem at all sir, so whilst the noise is still a pain at times, the temperature and the humidity levels have been rock solid and I can’t complain at all in that respect.
Hey man, did the smell go away in the end? Also, if in the summer it's like 35 degrees, this thing WILL cool the cigars? It just can't warm them above the room temperature? Did you try storing wine in it with your cigars? We got robbed in our basement and I was storing cigars there. Stored them there cause in the summer it gets too hot so I don't want eggs to hatch. But anyways insurance took care of it 🎉 so I won't repeat the same mistake again, need to store them at home.
Yeah the smell now is just tobacco and the wood from the boxes, smells brilliant! I have only ever stores cigars / boxes in the humidor. Sorry to hear you got robbed! thats awful, im glad you got it sorted though.
Hi. Fantastic set up video. Followed it to every detail. However, the humidor is holding the ambient temperature but when I set a desired temperature it won’t alter at all. After 4 days it hasn’t changed within a few degrees of the ambient. Any pointers on how to get it to 21+ degrees? Thanks Max.
Hello, thanks for the kind words are you trying to lower the temperature or increase? Remember that the unit is essentially a wine cooler so the unit will only cool between a range of 18 to 23 - if the room temperature is not 21 then the humidor will not hit 21, the unit does not provide any heat element it simply increases or decreases the fan. Hope this helps.
Hey I just received mine a week ago and quickly found out thet it leaks humidity from the drain for the condensation. Do you have the same problem? And what is the difference in humidity between the top and the bottom shelf in your humidor?
I both Klarstein 23l for 150 cigars cooler it came 7 days ago and its weary smooth working, much much silent I don't hear fen spinning when TV is off,so I realy dont understand that. But I can say for 23l its smoler ,and much toros don't go in side on the plate but for mee when I com from some bigger shoping I use it like big box and put cca 7-9boxes without any shelws i use only bottom drower whic I use for cigars that are unpaired. And boxes exe. Robusto can go on the plait normal,Romeo&Julieta can go normal but Toro and bigger must go sideways and I can put to the top also it's wery deep so it san space big allot but shalws must go only drower whic is last one. I haw 7 boxes and 20 Toros in the drower. Also its first humidor that I didn't touch selfs with destild water i only clean inside plastick. After that I put destil wother on shelf and wait for 24h to humidity go in 75% , dump destill wather and use 2 Bovida 69% 60g. Humidity is on spot 69% and Tc is 18°C also I calibrate their higrometar and its like my digital. So please don't trowe that analog gages .Some of them are perfectly fine. And in mine with out of drowers I can put 200 with boxes and 100+max 30cigars on shelws cos shelws don't have drowers.
Hey! I hope you are still happy with the humidor. I've been doing a lot of research lately for budget electric humidors and I also decided and just placed order for the same one. It is for sure OEM product that very popular brand from the States also use same model with their own brand which is Audew J23. It is same technology same model just rebranded so I could find some more reviews and you were right it looks like Klarstein 23L is not as noisy as other models. Hopefully I will receive it in a few days and see how it is :)
Hello mate, thank you for subscribing that’s very kind of you. Thanks also for taking the time to watch and comment, the collection is definitely getting there, I never buy in bulk for the sake of it though, I tend to buy what I like or what I think I will like.
@@bluelightcigars7032 lol I can't vomment about bulk buying as I've just knee jerked a huge spend before brexit 😂 i javelins bought what I think I will like and some I know I like though. Ill have fun sorting my favourites out slowly 💪 How many cigars does yours hold?
Hello ! What is your opinion about this product now that you have used it? I just ordered one but now I got cold feet because I read the temperature varies much and is not really that good. Please do an update
Calin Apostol hello, I will do a follow up video as soon as possible but here is thoughts briefly. It holds RH and Temps really really well, I’ve had no issue in that regard what so ever. Because I keep this in my bedroom (until I can find another spot suitable in the house) I have to unplug it at night but it drives me and my wife insane....it is very loud! Thankfully unplugging has no effect as just with any regular humidor they aren’t powered anyway. The only purpose in having it plugged in I find is if the outside temp gets to hot and you want to keep the temperature down. If it helps you feel better about your purchase, I don’t regret buying it and it’s serving a purpose.
@@bluelightcigars7032 thanks for the response. I have a standard humidor too but I want one that can cool because in my house the temp is about 26 Celsius and I want to keep my cigars around 20 Celsius. I have a digital hygrometer/thermometer in my classic humidor and the temps are very high, around 27-28 Celsius
Planning to buy this one aswell... as lot of people are claiming about loud noise I‘m planning to turn it on only during night via time controlled socket, means turn it on only from 1am till 8am. It will be in the living room. What do you think about it? Will it be so loud that it will hear in the bedroom with closed doors? Cheers!
Hey, so I only have mine on when it’s so warm that the temperatures exceed 24 degrees inside the humidor, then the fan inside just cools it down. As for the noise, it is loud but it kinda just becomes a white noise in the background, but if it is in a different room to you then no you wouldn’t hear it, even with the door open I don’t think you would hear it in honesty.
Hi I have just purchased one of these humidors but having trouble keeping humidity do the boveda packs work or have you had troubles with them like I have Alos all my cigars are in a box as well will this make a difference ?
Hello, good question. So early on I had trouble yes, I also use boveda and I found that using 69% that my humidity was sitting at around 72% so what I did to counter this was use 65% boveda which sat me at around 68 to 69% and I did this for the first month or so and now it sits stable using the correct boveda pack. Hope this helps 👍🏻 also them being in the box is not a problem at all.
Hiya mate. So i ordered one and it didn't go above 18 so I contacted them and they sent me another one and this one doesn't go above 19. You having issues with your temp? It climbs up of the room temperature go up but thought the whole point of choosing a temp is for it to reach that temp and stay there.
Hi, you are the second person to tell me this. I haven’t had these issues at all myself, I wonder if they just have a faulty batch of them at the minute. I hope they manage to resolve it for you buddy.
Hey man, no no don’t keep them in for the whole period of time. The rule of thumb with a brand new desktop wooden Spanish cedar humidor is to keep 84% 60gram boveda per 25 count cigar for 14 days then remove - so 50 count humidor would be 2x 84% 60gram for 14 days - on this instance I had the 84% in for around 5 to 6 days due to there being very little wood as the only wood is the shelving.
Hi Michael, so I have the humidor almost full and I keep 4x 69% 60gram pouches per shelf, obviously hygrometers aren’t perfect but it’s say around 67 to 68% solid for the 2 years now without fault.
Hey mate, great review! I've read in the manual that there is already a humidification system embedded. Can you confirm that? I see that you've put Boveda pack so wondering if there is actually one and if it's efficient enough. Thanks.
vincent Hello, I’m not sure if I understand the question fully but essentially this is a humidor like any other, the only difference being that you can regulate temperature (kinda) what I mean by that is the control for temps simply regulates the fan speed so if it’s a hot day and the humidor is reading 24 degrees for example, then you can set the humidor to say 20 and the fan will bring that inside temperature down, however if it is cold and reading 16 degrees then regardless of you setting the fan to say 23 degrees it won’t change anything as it does not apply heat. As for the humidity the shelves on this model are Spanish cedar so although the manual says not to do so, I did what I’ve done with all my previous desk top humidors and I used a sponge and distilled water to the shelves to make sure the shelving did not absorb the humidity when the cigars went inside. Now the humidor does come with a small plastic box which is shown in the video, and you can put distilled water or those gel beads in there and in conjunction with the fan it will supply humidity however I’m not a fan of those methods on any humidor as it is very difficult to control the humidity, my preferred method is boveda and will likely always be boveda until something better comes out in honesty. I hope this answers your question. Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment.
BlueLightCigars thanks so much for taking the time to reply. My issue currently is that I have a standard box-type humidor and I’m unable to maintain 20°C in it because my room temperature fluctuates and is generally around 23-24 which heats up the box.. so guessing the El Presidente is going to cool down and maintain 20ish. For humidity I have an electronic humidifier (cigar oasis) that I would reuse to keep the humidity level. So based on your comment, it seems that this humidor is what I need. Thanks!
dborup Hey mate, yeah there is a constant buzzing noise which gets louder sometimes when the fan kicks in but there is a constant noticeable noise. I have taken to just unplugging the humidor when the temps are fine outside and when it starts to get warm I just plug it in so the fans do their work when required. The noise is the only down side I have found so far though.
Hi, I've bought identical Klarstein and I have some doubts regarding which Boveda packs should I use. I have two options one is 65% and second one is 69%. I want to store both Cuban and "New World" cigars. I'm watching your video and I see that you are using 65%RH and you are maintaining ~68%/69% of RH. So the question is: If I use 69% Boveda packs then my humidity will raise above 70%? In your opinion which packs should I use? Regards, Mariusz
he said that it is very humid in his area. So after he opens the door its normal that the humidtiy in the humidor will also raise. If you are living in a humid area I would go for the 65 and if not I would use 69 bovedas. You can place an airtight container in your humidor where you can store your cubans at 65 % and thats what I do actually. I have an acrylic humidor from Zino inside my wineador. But it has to be an airtight container this is crucial because otherwise your 65 bovedas are messing with the 69.
Hello, I’m assuming you mean the temperature right? So this depends on the heat in your home, this fan simply cools, it does not warm. So if you home or the room your humidor is in, is not at 22 then the humidor will not go to 22, the benefit of the temp control is mainly for the summer months when the temps go above 24 for example, you can then bring the temp down to a range between 18 and 23. Hope this helps 👍🏻 also I don’t have my humidor plugged in during the winter months, pointless really....I’ll maybe plug it back in around may time.
@BlueLightCigars how much it took yours to reach 21°? I bought the El Presidente 33, and the temperature is stuck at 18 even if I select 21 or 23. Does not seem to want to go up any more, and is plugged by 4hrs now. Anyway mine doesn't make that much noise, just a little more than a pc
It was pretty much instantly, it’s important to remember this thing simply has a fan that increases in speed and decreases in speed so the temperature inside isn’t really controlled, you need to ensure your room temperature is around the same temperature that you want your humidor to be at and select that temperature on the dial on the front door. I’m finding my temperatures are dipping to around 20c at the moment as it is getting cold here so when I put the heating on it climbs again. I hope you figure it out, but a good start would be make sure the room is warm. Good luck with it 👍🏻
@@bluelightcigars7032 Ok in fact I see that till around 18/19 (local hour, so with the house quite 'cold') the inside temperature is about 18°. Then when the house start to get warmer, it went up to 20°. Right now is at 18° again. Can this damage the cigars? Probably yours, as is bigger, have bigger fan, and need less time. Hope this 18-19-20 temperature don't damage the cigars.
@@bluelightcigars7032 Ok wrote to them to ask for some more info about it and they simply sent me the papers for the return saying that probably is a malfunction. No further explanation, anything, just said to send it back. Of course I didn't wanted to send it back before knowing if is a real malfunciont or simply is really really reactive to the temperature of the room. For a return It will take 10days to go back, and another 7 days for the replacement, and I would not want the 2nd one to act the same and basically be on the same exact boat. Don't know, it's kinda frustrating.
@@italianguitargarage708 might be worth while keeping a thermometer in the room as well as the humidor for a few days and seeing if the temperatures match up maybe? I don’t know what to advise really. Good luck with it though, it sucks you are having trouble with it.
@@bluelightcigars7032 I now loaded it with 50 Montecristo DE and 50 Trinidad Vigia, the temperature has then raised to 18.8° in the most part of the day, and between 20/21 in the night when the house is really warm. HR is stationary at 66 using 2 boveda pack. I guess that can work and I can keep loading it :)
I purchase from a variety of places, namely U.K. based cigar stores but also pick stuff up when I travel or swap with friends of mine who smoke also….lots of paths really so difficult one to answer. For example, im going to the states again in November so I will pick up a couple of boxes whilst I’m there, things that are difficult or impossible to get in the U.K.
@@bluelightcigars7032 yeah ... mental prices in the UK... I've "adopted" a friend in the US that manages to send me 10 at a time in the post that has (2 years later) successfully avoided Tax etc :)
I also bought an equal. it's been a month. But it makes an unbearable noise. I bought it to have in the living room, where it makes sense. But I will not be able to stand for a long time listening to this noise. It's very annoying, it doesn't even look German. It looks more chinese
Basically mine doesn't buzz much, like not at all however what about that smell? I mean, it's like mine won't disappear at all... did it affect the taste of your cigars?
Dor Dzt the smell went for me after about 1 week of keeping a tray of baking soda in the bottom and a good cleaning, hasn’t impacted my cigar....or not that I have noticed anyway. My bone of contention is the sound really, I’m glad you don’t have the buzzing problem, well worth trying baking soda for the smell. Good luck!
Just wanted to inform everyone that I have placed an order for Klarstein el presidente 48L but had to cancel it as they have probably the worst customer service that I came across. If you order it and manage to get and it works then you are lucky but if you have an issue - good luck.
@@bluelightcigars7032 well, after I saw your review I ordered it the same day but since then only disappointment but that has nothing to do with you and your great review, I just wanted to share my bad experience with people.
Hi, yeah it’s a great humidor. Holds the humidity absolutely perfectly, my only gripe is the sound but I don’t have it plugged in at the moment as it doesn’t need cooling in the winter months, in the summer I’ll just unplug it when I go to bed, that being said I have left it on whilst in bed before now and I can sleep through the humm.
Thank you very much for this review. I have just purchased this model direct from the manufacturer and am awaiting delivery. The info regarding the power lead is really useful should my unit turn up with the European plug. Also the preparation instructions were clear and simple. Many thanks again. Harry.
hh15031965 thanks for taking the time to watch the video and comment. The only step I did differently to the instruction is give the cedar a quick wipe down with distilled water, the manual does not recommend this, I have only done this as I’ve seasoned many humidors so just bare that in mind when seasoning your own humidor, on reflection I didn’t really need to damp the wood at all but it’s done no harm.
The RH level has been rock solid and the temps have been perfect, the only bug Bare is the sound it makes, it’s very loud.
Good luck with the new humidor.
Great review, straight to all points, thanks for the information and the time spent reviewing it
Finally somebody has reviewed this!! Cheers bud you’ve gained a subscriber. 👍
Darren Illsley thank you very much, sorry the video wasn’t the most detailed, once I have had the humidor a bit longer I’ll do something more in-depth. Thank you for the subscription.
BlueLightCigars Just of of interest, Where do you buy your cigars? Want to know if you think cigar subscriptions are worth it. Personally I’m toying with the idea but I’m set in my ways.
Darren Illsley great question; I like the subscriptions, I’ve been thinking about the privada one recently as a matter of fact. Cgars do a couple of good ones in the U.K. also. I don’t buy from any one place really, I use multiple stores and websites, most common one is cgars but I’ve used others and when I get a chance to go overseas I see if I can pick up some sticks also.
BlueLightCigars will give it a go. Forgot to ask is the wood in the humidor cedar? (Can’t find any info on that) I’m a bit apprehensive if it ain’t. I need to upgrade to something as the collection is getting a bit large. Was looking at the newair but seem to be sold out everywhere.so this seems the next big thing
Darren Illsley on this particular model is it Spanish cedar yes. On the smaller model it is beechwood. So just double check with the model you are looking to get.
Brilliant video, my klarstein humidor has just arrived today a wee bit smaller than yours but I'll be glad to get it all set up and sorted 👍🏻
Brilliant, hope you enjoy your purchase, the only thing I’d do differently if I was to buy another is I don’t know if I’d bother with the wetting of the cedar…I think I’d just leave the boveda 84% in there for 14 days, either way works just as fine but would save a step in the set up process.
Enjoy your humidor and thank you for the kind words.
Cheers for sharing this. I’m in the uk and I’ve been looking for a product review of this as all I see is new air but as you know that’s in the states. Great video it’s good to see the size, noise all those bits. Nice one fella
The Collectors Vault hey thank you for taking the time to comment. I like you could only find the new air also so when I decided to take the plunge and buy this, I figured there would be others out there like me who would benefit from it. Have a great day.
Great video!! May I ask, 3 years on, how is it going with the humidor? ✌️
ok i contacted klarstein about replacement shelves,, "not a cat in hells chance" anyway i set it all up. took 2 days
temp and humidity holding steady , suprisingly no noise at all coming from unit . so i guess i,ll be keeping it
New version has 3 trays not 4 like yours :/ great review...thx
Good to know! Thanks for adding this, hopefully other people will see this.
Recently bought the El Presidente 33. The buzzing is driving me mental. It's only cools if the set temp is lower than ambient temp. I set the temp higher than the room temp so the fan doesn't need to come on and it still buzzes so loud the Samsung TV has to be on volume level 13 to drown it. When I lowered,the temp during recent heatwave and the fan was running too, it sounded like someone was doing the carpets.
- Flavz I have it unplugged when the temps are ok, I have 4 hygrometers in the unit to keep an eye on it. If it gets to high then I turn it back on as the buzzing noise was driving me mental also.
@@bluelightcigars7032 i have swapped fans with some Noctua fans, it's dead silent now, it's kinda no brainer and first thing i knew i have to do once i turned on this thing, that buzzing was unbearable
@@zggggg. This is a really good idea, ill look into this, i have some Noctua fans spare from my pc so ill check that out.
@@bluelightcigars7032 let me know if you need any help, cause it was quite tricky due to fans from the humidor coming with 2 pin connectors. I had to buy one extra specific model noctua fan just for the 2 pin connector which comes with it, plus some cables. Fan which is inside, I had to cut wires and tinker with supplied cables to work, fan which is at the back I just used 2pin adapter. That 2 pin adapter not coming with just any fan, if you need info I will write you models which I used. It's well worth it!
@@zggggg. Thats really kind of you thanks, ill let you know :)
I wish I bought this last year. I can't find it anywhere online and it is so frustrating that the only other options in the UK are so expensive!
hey, this vid was really good. im looing for buying a humidor, i do not might a little noise cuz the humidor is at the cigar room.
Omg I was just looking for reviews and setup videos on youtube after I found it on a webshop 😅
Max Snel I hope it was of some use to you then :) it wasn’t a planned review just a step by step of what I did.
Me2. Thinking about ordering one
Excellent review and very informative.
Trezeck thank you very much for the kind words.
Hi mate, ive looked on Klarstein site and cant find any humidors. Have you got a link please?
Well i received my Klarstein El Presidente 65L. I ordered the silver model with cedar drawers, when i unboxed it yesterday i found it only had a silver bezel on the front. but the worst part was that the drawers and shelves are made of Beechwood Now, i could return it , but that would be a real pain in the ass, they offered my a 25 pound refund for any inconvenience , i,ve asked them if they can send me replacement drawers in spanish cedar
, we will see what happens, but not very hopeful, Just thought i would share this for anyone considering buying one
i,ll keep you updated
chris lee thank you for the update, I’m really sorry to hear that though. Hope they manage to fix it for you! Have they admitted fault? That it should be cedar for the 65?
@@bluelightcigars7032 yes thats probably why they offered me 25 pound laughable
chris lee hope you get a resolve dude.
Any review on the humidor after 3 years please because I’m thinking of buying on of these
Is it loud? Odor of plastic remaining? Keeps the humidity levels stable?
Thank you very much !
I'd also like to know if it can be set colder than 18, like to 14-15 degrees? I want to age Cuban cigar for decades so I want 15 degrees and 65 humidity
Brilliant video mate, well informative. Would you still recommend after having it for a fews years now?
I would yes, the only thing i would state is the humidor took a while to settle, probably close to a month for the humidity to stabilise but its been a while now and its been spot on. I only turn it on in the summer months as that's the only time i need to bring the temperatures down. But yes, i would still recommend it or other like it for sure :)
I’ve just purchased the smaller version. Can I ask once you had the 84RH in for two weeks what was the next step? Take them out and replace with 69RH and let it settle to that before you put your cigars in?
Great video by the way
First of all, thanks for reviewing the Klarstein, have been looking for this:) Now that you had this unit for a couple months, how is it? Does it maintain the temp well? Greetings
No problem at all sir, so whilst the noise is still a pain at times, the temperature and the humidity levels have been rock solid and I can’t complain at all in that respect.
@@bluelightcigars7032 Very strange I have the same humidor and mine is very quiet.
Hey man, did the smell go away in the end?
Also, if in the summer it's like 35 degrees, this thing WILL cool the cigars? It just can't warm them above the room temperature?
Did you try storing wine in it with your cigars?
We got robbed in our basement and I was storing cigars there. Stored them there cause in the summer it gets too hot so I don't want eggs to hatch. But anyways insurance took care of it 🎉 so I won't repeat the same mistake again, need to store them at home.
Yeah the smell now is just tobacco and the wood from the boxes, smells brilliant!
I have only ever stores cigars / boxes in the humidor.
Sorry to hear you got robbed! thats awful, im glad you got it sorted though.
Hey, thanks. How come you have to use Boveda packs as well. Has it not got a distilled water holder to maintain humidity?
Hi. Fantastic set up video. Followed it to every detail. However, the humidor is holding the ambient temperature but when I set a desired temperature it won’t alter at all. After 4 days it hasn’t changed within a few degrees of the ambient. Any pointers on how to get it to 21+ degrees?
Thanks
Max.
Hello, thanks for the kind words are you trying to lower the temperature or increase? Remember that the unit is essentially a wine cooler so the unit will only cool between a range of 18 to 23 - if the room temperature is not 21 then the humidor will not hit 21, the unit does not provide any heat element it simply increases or decreases the fan. Hope this helps.
Hey I just received mine a week ago and quickly found out thet it leaks humidity from the drain for the condensation. Do you have the same problem? And what is the difference in humidity between the top and the bottom shelf in your humidor?
hi great set up, may I ask where you got the factory smokes/cao brazillia from ? ,many thanks
Hello, sorry i completely missed this comment - I purchased these whilst on Holiday in Orlando :)
I both Klarstein 23l for 150 cigars cooler it came 7 days ago and its weary smooth working, much much silent I don't hear fen spinning when TV is off,so I realy dont understand that. But I can say for 23l its smoler ,and much toros don't go in side on the plate but for mee when I com from some bigger shoping I use it like big box and put cca 7-9boxes without any shelws i use only bottom drower whic I use for cigars that are unpaired. And boxes exe. Robusto can go on the plait normal,Romeo&Julieta can go normal but Toro and bigger must go sideways and I can put to the top also it's wery deep so it san space big allot but shalws must go only drower whic is last one. I haw 7 boxes and 20 Toros in the drower. Also its first humidor that I didn't touch selfs with destild water i only clean inside plastick. After that I put destil wother on shelf and wait for 24h to humidity go in 75% , dump destill wather and use 2 Bovida 69% 60g. Humidity is on spot 69% and Tc is 18°C also I calibrate their higrometar and its like my digital. So please don't trowe that analog gages .Some of them are perfectly fine. And in mine with out of drowers I can put 200 with boxes and 100+max 30cigars on shelws cos shelws don't have drowers.
Hey! I hope you are still happy with the humidor. I've been doing a lot of research lately for budget electric humidors and I also decided and just placed order for the same one. It is for sure OEM product that very popular brand from the States also use same model with their own brand which is Audew J23. It is same technology same model just rebranded so I could find some more reviews and you were right it looks like Klarstein 23L is not as noisy as other models. Hopefully I will receive it in a few days and see how it is :)
I thought it humidifiers by it self. So you must put boveda packs or disteld water?
Thanks for the video buddy.
Excellent full video. Shame about the man utd shirt 😉
Good video mate. How have you found it holds the temp in summer? Ive bought because i live in a flat and it hits 25+ inside during warmest months
New sub, great video. Looks smart too, very nice collection you have going there btw
Hello mate, thank you for subscribing that’s very kind of you. Thanks also for taking the time to watch and comment, the collection is definitely getting there, I never buy in bulk for the sake of it though, I tend to buy what I like or what I think I will like.
@@bluelightcigars7032 lol I can't vomment about bulk buying as I've just knee jerked a huge spend before brexit 😂 i javelins bought what I think I will like and some I know I like though. Ill have fun sorting my favourites out slowly 💪
How many cigars does yours hold?
Great review, 👏👏
Did you put your cigars in when there was still a little plastic smell?
How did it effect the cedar?
And your cigars?
Can I clean it with only disteld water or must I have bicarbonate also?
I’ve set mine up but the fan is not working does it kick in or is it on constantly??
Hello !
What is your opinion about this product now that you have used it? I just ordered one but now I got cold feet because I read the temperature varies much and is not really that good.
Please do an update
Calin Apostol hello, I will do a follow up video as soon as possible but here is thoughts briefly. It holds RH and Temps really really well, I’ve had no issue in that regard what so ever. Because I keep this in my bedroom (until I can find another spot suitable in the house) I have to unplug it at night but it drives me and my wife insane....it is very loud! Thankfully unplugging has no effect as just with any regular humidor they aren’t powered anyway. The only purpose in having it plugged in I find is if the outside temp gets to hot and you want to keep the temperature down.
If it helps you feel better about your purchase, I don’t regret buying it and it’s serving a purpose.
@@bluelightcigars7032 thanks for the response. I have a standard humidor too but I want one that can cool because in my house the temp is about 26 Celsius and I want to keep my cigars around 20 Celsius. I have a digital hygrometer/thermometer in my classic humidor and the temps are very high, around 27-28 Celsius
Bonjour,
Est-ce que la cave a cigare fonctionne avec l’application iphone Klarstein svp ? 🙂
Planning to buy this one aswell... as lot of people are claiming about loud noise I‘m planning to turn it on only during night via time controlled socket, means turn it on only from 1am till 8am. It will be in the living room. What do you think about it? Will it be so loud that it will hear in the bedroom with closed doors? Cheers!
Hey, so I only have mine on when it’s so warm that the temperatures exceed 24 degrees inside the humidor, then the fan inside just cools it down. As for the noise, it is loud but it kinda just becomes a white noise in the background, but if it is in a different room to you then no you wouldn’t hear it, even with the door open I don’t think you would hear it in honesty.
Hi I have just purchased one of these humidors but having trouble keeping humidity do the boveda packs work or have you had troubles with them like I have Alos all my cigars are in a box as well will this make a difference ?
Hello, good question. So early on I had trouble yes, I also use boveda and I found that using 69% that my humidity was sitting at around 72% so what I did to counter this was use 65% boveda which sat me at around 68 to 69% and I did this for the first month or so and now it sits stable using the correct boveda pack. Hope this helps 👍🏻 also them being in the box is not a problem at all.
Update on klarstein 65L
Offered me 75 pound back😁
chris lee ooosh! That’s not bad is it! Certainly softened the blow I’m sure.
Excellent football Top!
Hiya mate. So i ordered one and it didn't go above 18 so I contacted them and they sent me another one and this one doesn't go above 19. You having issues with your temp?
It climbs up of the room temperature go up but thought the whole point of choosing a temp is for it to reach that temp and stay there.
Hi, you are the second person to tell me this. I haven’t had these issues at all myself, I wonder if they just have a faulty batch of them at the minute. I hope they manage to resolve it for you buddy.
Do you keep the Bovida 84 all the time in, or for a period of time?
Hey man, no no don’t keep them in for the whole period of time. The rule of thumb with a brand new desktop wooden Spanish cedar humidor is to keep 84% 60gram boveda per 25 count cigar for 14 days then remove - so 50 count humidor would be 2x 84% 60gram for 14 days - on this instance I had the 84% in for around 5 to 6 days due to there being very little wood as the only wood is the shelving.
Thanks for the review. How many boveda packs do you find you use? Is it still going strong after two years?
Hi Michael, so I have the humidor almost full and I keep 4x 69% 60gram pouches per shelf, obviously hygrometers aren’t perfect but it’s say around 67 to 68% solid for the 2 years now without fault.
I should add also, I’ve removed one shelf to allow for extra space to keep boxes of cigars.
Very many thanks
So you do not put water just the boveda?
Hey mate, great review! I've read in the manual that there is already a humidification system embedded. Can you confirm that? I see that you've put Boveda pack so wondering if there is actually one and if it's efficient enough. Thanks.
vincent Hello, I’m not sure if I understand the question fully but essentially this is a humidor like any other, the only difference being that you can regulate temperature (kinda) what I mean by that is the control for temps simply regulates the fan speed so if it’s a hot day and the humidor is reading 24 degrees for example, then you can set the humidor to say 20 and the fan will bring that inside temperature down, however if it is cold and reading 16 degrees then regardless of you setting the fan to say 23 degrees it won’t change anything as it does not apply heat. As for the humidity the shelves on this model are Spanish cedar so although the manual says not to do so, I did what I’ve done with all my previous desk top humidors and I used a sponge and distilled water to the shelves to make sure the shelving did not absorb the humidity when the cigars went inside. Now the humidor does come with a small plastic box which is shown in the video, and you can put distilled water or those gel beads in there and in conjunction with the fan it will supply humidity however I’m not a fan of those methods on any humidor as it is very difficult to control the humidity, my preferred method is boveda and will likely always be boveda until something better comes out in honesty. I hope this answers your question. Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment.
BlueLightCigars thanks so much for taking the time to reply. My issue currently is that I have a standard box-type humidor and I’m unable to maintain 20°C in it because my room temperature fluctuates and is generally around 23-24 which heats up the box.. so guessing the El Presidente is going to cool down and maintain 20ish. For humidity I have an electronic humidifier (cigar oasis) that I would reuse to keep the humidity level. So based on your comment, it seems that this humidor is what I need. Thanks!
vincent Yeah absolutely the temperature range is 18 degrees Celsius to 23 and as you say, Chuck the cigar oasis in there and away you go. Good luck 👍🏻
Thanks for the video! a shame with the noise, does make that noise all the time?
dborup Hey mate, yeah there is a constant buzzing noise which gets louder sometimes when the fan kicks in but there is a constant noticeable noise. I have taken to just unplugging the humidor when the temps are fine outside and when it starts to get warm I just plug it in so the fans do their work when required. The noise is the only down side I have found so far though.
hey was the shelving beechwood or spanish cedar thanks
chris lee Spanish Cedar shelving and tray. 👍🏻
chris lee on this particular model anyway, I think the smaller units use beechwood.
ok thanks mate just setting mine up now :)
chris lee Good luck with it, enjoy. 👍🏻
Hi, you can set the desired humidity?
Hi, I've bought identical Klarstein and I have some doubts regarding which Boveda packs should I use. I have two options one is 65% and second one is 69%. I want to store both Cuban and "New World" cigars. I'm watching your video and I see that you are using 65%RH and you are maintaining ~68%/69% of RH. So the question is: If I use 69% Boveda packs then my humidity will raise above 70%? In your opinion which packs should I use? Regards, Mariusz
he said that it is very humid in his area. So after he opens the door its normal that the humidtiy in the humidor will also raise. If you are living in a humid area I would go for the 65 and if not I would use 69 bovedas. You can place an airtight container in your humidor where you can store your cubans at 65 % and thats what I do actually. I have an acrylic humidor from Zino inside my wineador. But it has to be an airtight container this is crucial because otherwise your 65 bovedas are messing with the 69.
How long did it take to get to 22 from initial set up?
Hello, I’m assuming you mean the temperature right? So this depends on the heat in your home, this fan simply cools, it does not warm. So if you home or the room your humidor is in, is not at 22 then the humidor will not go to 22, the benefit of the temp control is mainly for the summer months when the temps go above 24 for example, you can then bring the temp down to a range between 18 and 23. Hope this helps 👍🏻 also I don’t have my humidor plugged in during the winter months, pointless really....I’ll maybe plug it back in around may time.
@BlueLightCigars how much it took yours to reach 21°? I bought the El Presidente 33, and the temperature is stuck at 18 even if I select 21 or 23. Does not seem to want to go up
any more, and is plugged by 4hrs now.
Anyway mine doesn't make that much noise, just a little more than a pc
It was pretty much instantly, it’s important to remember this thing simply has a fan that increases in speed and decreases in speed so the temperature inside isn’t really controlled, you need to ensure your room temperature is around the same temperature that you want your humidor to be at and select that temperature on the dial on the front door. I’m finding my temperatures are dipping to around 20c at the moment as it is getting cold here so when I put the heating on it climbs again.
I hope you figure it out, but a good start would be make sure the room is warm.
Good luck with it 👍🏻
@@bluelightcigars7032 Ok in fact I see that till around 18/19 (local hour, so with the house quite 'cold') the inside temperature is about 18°. Then when the house start to get warmer, it went up to 20°. Right now is at 18° again. Can this damage the cigars? Probably yours, as is bigger, have bigger fan, and need less time. Hope this 18-19-20 temperature don't damage the cigars.
@@bluelightcigars7032 Ok wrote to them to ask for some more info about it and they simply sent me the papers for the return saying that probably is a malfunction. No further explanation, anything, just said to send it back. Of course I didn't wanted to send it back before knowing if is a real malfunciont or simply is really really reactive to the temperature of the room.
For a return It will take 10days to go back, and another 7 days for the replacement, and I would not want the 2nd one to act the same and basically be on the same exact boat. Don't know, it's kinda frustrating.
@@italianguitargarage708 might be worth while keeping a thermometer in the room as well as the humidor for a few days and seeing if the temperatures match up maybe? I don’t know what to advise really. Good luck with it though, it sucks you are having trouble with it.
@@bluelightcigars7032 I now loaded it with 50 Montecristo DE and 50 Trinidad Vigia, the temperature has then raised to 18.8° in the most part of the day, and between 20/21 in the night when the house is really warm. HR is stationary at 66 using 2 boveda pack. I guess that can work and I can keep loading it :)
Does anyone know how many boxes might fit in there?
Just a general question = where do you source your cigars from?
I purchase from a variety of places, namely U.K. based cigar stores but also pick stuff up when I travel or swap with friends of mine who smoke also….lots of paths really so difficult one to answer. For example, im going to the states again in November so I will pick up a couple of boxes whilst I’m there, things that are difficult or impossible to get in the U.K.
@@bluelightcigars7032 yeah ... mental prices in the UK... I've "adopted" a friend in the US that manages to send me 10 at a time in the post that has (2 years later) successfully avoided Tax etc :)
I also bought an equal. it's been a month. But it makes an unbearable noise. I bought it to have in the living room, where it makes sense. But I will not be able to stand for a long time listening to this noise. It's very annoying, it doesn't even look German. It looks more chinese
luis costa yeah I agree the noise is an issue, I simply unplug it when I go to bed, I had to remove it from my living room as the noise is horrible.
Basically mine doesn't buzz much, like not at all however what about that smell? I mean, it's like mine won't disappear at all... did it affect the taste of your cigars?
Dor Dzt the smell went for me after about 1 week of keeping a tray of baking soda in the bottom and a good cleaning, hasn’t impacted my cigar....or not that I have noticed anyway. My bone of contention is the sound really, I’m glad you don’t have the buzzing problem, well worth trying baking soda for the smell. Good luck!
@@bluelightcigars7032 U rock mate 👏
Just wanted to inform everyone that I have placed an order for Klarstein el presidente 48L but had to cancel it as they have probably the worst customer service that I came across. If you order it and manage to get and it works then you are lucky but if you have an issue - good luck.
Sorry to hear that, they was great with me when I purchased, really quick replying to emails and on the phone. Hope you find the humidor you need.
@@bluelightcigars7032 well, after I saw your review I ordered it the same day but since then only disappointment but that has nothing to do with you and your great review, I just wanted to share my bad experience with people.
@@ilonioum absolutely get that, it’s been a couple of years so if things have changed then people should know. Thanks for the feedback.
How are you finding it now 4/5 months on?
Hi, yeah it’s a great humidor. Holds the humidity absolutely perfectly, my only gripe is the sound but I don’t have it plugged in at the moment as it doesn’t need cooling in the winter months, in the summer I’ll just unplug it when I go to bed, that being said I have left it on whilst in bed before now and I can sleep through the humm.
@@bluelightcigars7032 sounds good! Where did you get it from?
@@rhysfurlong2752 directly from Klarstein 👍🏻
@@bluelightcigars7032 thats great cheers mate, currently a 5 week delay but hopefully get one sooner
Just received mine today 👍🏼
Benjy Vincent nice dude, hope you like it.
Were your 84% boveda packs still squishy after 2 weeks in there?
I just bought a 65l online so will also post a video once it arrives
Its waaay to loud 😕