It is sometimes amazing what you find with these non-runners. Well done on your diagnosis and it ended up an almost straight forward repair. Even the screeching was a simple fix! It gives us confidence to try ourselves, thank you sir.
Hi bill brilliant video love the blue locomotives they look smart and I love the music at the end of the video you’re very talented keep up the brilliant work and videos Bernard
I hadn't really appreciated the styling of the loco until you showed it running at high speed. That's when it looks it's best I think, very sleek. Excellent repair with wise words.
Another great repair Bill. Maybe the owner should direct the shop person to your videos or even get you to teach them how to fix model trains, there is a full time job for you.. Well done.. another reason why I love watching your videos.. The Master Model Train Repairer
A very smart bit of detective work and repair. The way you dealt with that awful screach was almost wizardly., lol. She looks the Bee's knees, with a train of midland coaches 🙂
Hi bill isn’t strange you working on the coronation class, I am repairing my early one king George vl and waiting for the piston block and one other part to get it back to running order. Your videos have helped me do the simple repairs and service. Keep them comming
I updated a 1990s blue Chinese Princess Coronation by swapping out all of the driving wheels for a set of the latest bevel edged rims Hornby produce on their super improved crap version. However, the axles to these newer versions required pulling apart and brass journals off the older set needed swapping onto it. Yes, you guessed it, Hornby fooked about. Anyway, what I noticed was these newer wheels now picked up the power better, plus they now look correct too. A bit harder to find any black wheelsets though.
I had to do a similar thing for a Hornby standard class 4. Idler gear is unobtainable. Adapted one from a GWR Star Class. Kept filing the spindle till it was an easy fit. Loco now runs well. This might be a problem for some models in the future. You did a great repair job as always. Cheers Paul.
Great to see it running again, so rewarding when it all comes together. It’s a shame the advise given was along the right line but maybe if the parts were available the story may have been different. It’s sometimes the simple fixes; motor bearing being squeaky that gives inspiration to try it one self.. years of use back for that model. Great job as always. Very best Marc from Leighton Buzzard
Hi Bill, very good correct repair job, I guess these repair centres have not so great standards, surely the repair person could see it wasn’t performing properly, thanks for sharing.
Hi there Bill ,, yet 1 more good sort out video there m8. I have fixed many a trains as in carriages and loco's that ive bought as even total non runners. A bit of a cleanup on the wheels & contact points and the bearings....and just general maintenence and its great to see the come to life again from being previously fully dead. I have even oiled the bearings front and back in them can motors & against manufacturers instructions and got them running nice and sooo quiet too. I can understand the manufacturers saying not to oil them as in too much oil is no good for them but only the tiniest of drops is sufficient to stop them from squealing. I suppose of you have to buy a new motor that is only going to help the manufacturers and not us ,, oh well. A mate of mine brought over a screaming ringfield motor that he pulled apart cleaned and put back together and it made a horrible screeching sound so I pulled the top of it & checked the wiring and all was good and was as clean as a whistle.. i said to him watch this m8 ... All i did was put some small droplets of oil on the main shaft and the gears and run it and was a s quit as a mouse. He looked at me and said ,, your kidding , that was all it took to shut it up... i said yep amazing what a drop of oil does for a loco or a car truck or a boat or a real life locomotives too.. Cheers from John in Australia
Hihi 🤣 another one done Bill. What a pity they all use plastic gears these days, you never see that when you take a Triang, Hornby Dublo or Wrenn model apart, it’s all brass which seems to last forever. If a Dublo or Wrenn model suffers from a gear slipping, you just have to retighten the grub screws. I’ve never experienced the problem with a Triang loco. BTW that grey painted Dublo footbridge at the end of your main station looks great. I’m glad you kept it in the end. It’s a pity you never reply to comments, but I guess there must be so many! It’d be nice to know if you read them though. Whatever, many thanks for all your repair videos. I’ve learnt so much over the last few years from them that I no longer have any apprehension about taking my locos apart and fixing them ! And I’ve done loads over the last couple of years as a result. Thanks and all the best from France. Rob
Another excellent repair! Thanks for posting Bill. On the topic of these locos, I have the Coronation Scot set and one of the screws is missing from the centre wheel holding the con rods on. Does anyone know where you can obtain spares of this very tiny set screw?? Many thanks.
Hi Bill, Great job as usual, If lube is doubtful- scoosh! It is pretty depressing that there so many plastic gear train failures on recent models, original nylon gears are still working decades after manufacture. BTW I think the union link and combination lever have got flipped on the right hand side. The latter should be ahead of the crosshead like the left side is.
I hope that the official Hornby repairer didn't charge Ivan for his "repair"! He didn't do anything! These old Hornby live tender couplings are a nightmare. I deactivate them by cutting off the little wings and desoldering the wires. I then do a direct wire feed between the tender and loco leaving the coupling as a non-conducting drawbar.
For those of us living on the other side of the planet this inability to get spares like the gear wheel may end up consigning locos like this to the dust bin. It's almost when you buy a new Hornby loco that you need to buy a spare gear wheel and and full motion with wheels because down the track (no pin intended) you're going to need them because these Chinese models just won't last the years. Welcome to the throw away society. There used to be a video here on YT showing these locos at work in LMS days in colour with blue and maroon streamlined locos but it's gone now.
IT seems to me that this like the A4 Chassis is a pain to work on especially the pickups Surely the combination lever and the union link should be in front of the crosshead?
my old bugbear,the gears split,i have triang loco,s 50 years old,their gears havent split,why now,these loco,s cost a fortune,is it a case of loads of fancy detail while the manufacturers skimp on the running quailty,not good enough...............jpj
It is sometimes amazing what you find with these non-runners. Well done on your diagnosis and it ended up an almost straight forward repair. Even the screeching was a simple fix! It gives us confidence to try ourselves, thank you sir.
Classic OO Bill, well done If there's ever to be such a title as "Master Model Locomotive Repairer", I think you should be the first recipient.
You obviously need to arrange an in depth seminar for all Hornby employees on the art of skooshing.
Brilliant repair. Another good looking locomotive saved from the bin. Well done Bill.
Hi bill brilliant video love the blue locomotives they look smart and I love the music at the end of the video you’re very talented keep up the brilliant work and videos Bernard
I hadn't really appreciated the styling of the loco until you showed it running at high speed. That's when it looks it's best I think, very sleek. Excellent repair with wise words.
Another great repair Bill. Maybe the owner should direct the shop person to your videos or even get you to teach them how to fix model trains, there is a full time job for you.. Well done.. another reason why I love watching your videos.. The Master Model Train Repairer
When Bill rolls his sleeves up you know it's serious.
This is what annoys me with Hornby a perfectly serviceable locomotive let down by a lack of spare parts.
hence why I stick with tender drive ringfields etc
I honestly think HORNBY have lost inin the hobby NO spares POOR customer service and JACKING UP THEIR PRICES 20----30 % on very poor models
@@michaelnaisbitt7926 fully agree, I rather buy a 1991 tender drive loco, yes its is less detailed but alot more reliable and easier to service
A very smart bit of detective work and repair. The way you dealt with that awful screach was almost wizardly., lol. She looks the Bee's knees, with a train of midland coaches 🙂
Very thorough troubleshooting on this repair so two thumbs up and nice running session after all is said and done. Great video, Jersey Bill
Hi bill isn’t strange you working on the coronation class, I am repairing my early one king George vl and waiting for the piston block and one other part to get it back to running order.
Your videos have helped me do the simple repairs and service.
Keep them comming
I updated a 1990s blue Chinese Princess Coronation by swapping out all of the driving wheels for a set of the latest bevel edged rims Hornby produce on their super improved crap version. However, the axles to these newer versions required pulling apart and brass journals off the older set needed swapping onto it. Yes, you guessed it, Hornby fooked about. Anyway, what I noticed was these newer wheels now picked up the power better, plus they now look correct too. A bit harder to find any black wheelsets though.
I had to do a similar thing for a Hornby standard class 4. Idler gear is unobtainable. Adapted one from a GWR Star Class. Kept filing the spindle till it was an easy fit. Loco now runs well. This might be a problem for some models in the future. You did a great repair job as always. Cheers Paul.
Good fix and it’s running 100%
Great to see it running again, so rewarding when it all comes together. It’s a shame the advise given was along the right line but maybe if the parts were available the story may have been different. It’s sometimes the simple fixes; motor bearing being squeaky that gives inspiration to try it one self.. years of use back for that model. Great job as always. Very best Marc from Leighton Buzzard
hi Bill, great video, as said before hornby are useless with spare parts. people should by pass their products.never had problems in the Triang days !
Cor Whatta Beauty 😍 - it looked like you were Juggling an Octopus at One point 😂 Well Done Yet Again Dr Bill👍🏻
Hi Bill, very good correct repair job, I guess these repair centres have not so great standards, surely the repair person could see it wasn’t performing properly, thanks for sharing.
Hi there Bill ,, yet 1 more good sort out video there m8.
I have fixed many a trains as in carriages and loco's that ive bought as even total non runners.
A bit of a cleanup on the wheels & contact points and the bearings....and just general maintenence and its great to see the come to life again from being previously fully dead.
I have even oiled the bearings front and back in them can motors & against manufacturers instructions and got them running nice and sooo quiet too.
I can understand the manufacturers saying not to oil them as in too much oil is no good for them but only the tiniest of drops is sufficient to stop them from squealing. I suppose of you have to buy a new motor that is only going to help the manufacturers and not us ,, oh well.
A mate of mine brought over a screaming ringfield motor that he pulled apart cleaned and put back together and it made a horrible screeching sound so I pulled the top of it & checked the wiring and all was good and was as clean as a whistle.. i said to him watch this m8 ... All i did was put some small droplets of oil on the main shaft and the gears and run it and was a s quit as a mouse.
He looked at me and said ,, your kidding , that was all it took to shut it up... i said yep amazing what a drop of oil does for a loco or a car truck or a boat or a real life locomotives too..
Cheers from John in Australia
Great repair
Nice job Bill. Agreed with John Drew - many of these non-runners can be a relatively simple fix.
Al.
Beautiful loco... great repair OOBill...
Hihi 🤣 another one done Bill. What a pity they all use plastic gears these days, you never see that when you take a Triang, Hornby Dublo or Wrenn model apart, it’s all brass which seems to last forever. If a Dublo or Wrenn model suffers from a gear slipping, you just have to retighten the grub screws. I’ve never experienced the problem with a Triang loco.
BTW that grey painted Dublo footbridge at the end of your main station looks great. I’m glad you kept it in the end.
It’s a pity you never reply to comments, but I guess there must be so many! It’d be nice to know if you read them though. Whatever, many thanks for all your repair videos. I’ve learnt so much over the last few years from them that I no longer have any apprehension about taking my locos apart and fixing them ! And I’ve done loads over the last couple of years as a result. Thanks and all the best from France. Rob
I do read all comments yes and I try to respond to those asking questions or who make a comment I feel needs my response.
@@oobill I’ll shut up then 🤣 thanks Bill
Lovely looking loco nice repair
Another excellent repair! Thanks for posting Bill. On the topic of these locos, I have the Coronation Scot set and one of the screws is missing from the centre wheel holding the con rods on. Does anyone know where you can obtain spares of this very tiny set screw?? Many thanks.
Good advice as always Bill
Hi Bill, Great job as usual, If lube is doubtful- scoosh! It is pretty depressing that there so many plastic gear train failures on recent models, original nylon gears are still working decades after manufacture. BTW I think the union link and combination lever have got flipped on the right hand side. The latter should be ahead of the crosshead like the left side is.
Yeah it's been sorted. Spotted it while editing the video...
great vlog of a nice loco thanks for the share thanks lee
great job Bill
Have you ever thought of investing in an engine cradle while working on locomotives?
I hope that the official Hornby repairer didn't charge Ivan for his "repair"! He didn't do anything! These old Hornby live tender couplings are a nightmare. I deactivate them by cutting off the little wings and desoldering the wires. I then do a direct wire feed between the tender and loco leaving the coupling as a non-conducting drawbar.
For those of us living on the other side of the planet this inability to get spares like the gear wheel may end up consigning locos like this to the dust bin. It's almost when you buy a new Hornby loco that you need to buy a spare gear wheel and and full motion with wheels because down the track (no pin intended) you're going to need them because these Chinese models just won't last the years. Welcome to the throw away society.
There used to be a video here on YT showing these locos at work in LMS days in colour with blue and maroon streamlined locos but it's gone now.
Frankly I'd never use that model shop again! Surely it was seen running again after the "repair"???
Amazing how so called repairers do not do a proper job, however well done Bill for sorting it
I thought the motors in these did not need lubricating. It just goes to show to follow your own logic.
IT seems to me that this like the A4 Chassis is a pain to work on especially the pickups Surely the combination lever and the union link should be in front of the crosshead?
That got sorted post video.
my old bugbear,the gears split,i have triang loco,s 50 years old,their gears havent split,why now,these loco,s cost a fortune,is it a case of loads of fancy detail while the manufacturers skimp on the running quailty,not good enough...............jpj
Great longevity this made in China crap! Nowt wrong with my triang coronation class even after 50 years!
your like crewe works lol