That looks like a spring from a biro, just goes to show you should always check! The way the "Sunshine yellow" lining stops and starts again with slots has me thinking this was the short lived "Golden Arrow" version with Golden Arrow headboard and side arrows that clipped on.
Would it be possible to repair? Cut out the black part and see if the slight bend on the side can be pull back into shape with hot air. Then some plasticard and filler with some black paint.
Living upto it's name there! I'm surprised my castle class loco didn't do the same when the motor seized! I need to get a hold of a replacement ringfield motor... Problem is I'll probably end up breaking the loco more by taking it apart 😂
@@malminstralYes, me too. I used a Biggin Hill kit body on the old Triang chassis to produce 21C164 Fighter Command. The SR livery lines are available on an HRMS decal sheet.
Possibly the most damage I have ever seen to a model Locomotive. I have a lovely example which still receives frequent running. It was Spitfire that was involved in the Lewisham Disaster sadly resulting in a considerable loss of life. After which the Locomotive was scrapped as it was beyond repair.
Fun video. I'm sure a Southern modeller out there would buy the body and have a go at repairing the damage. All eras of Bulleid models are super popular so it's sure to find some use somewhere!
I'm sure a man of your skill can handle a Dremel type tool? Or maybe your nimble guitarist hands can do the job with a scalpel, mini saw, or similar? If this were mine I would take a section of the boiler "roof" out from behind the dome cover, using the green as a cut line, then cut the cab roof & front away down to the roof intersection. I have two shells one Kitmaster one Hornby that I picked up a a swap meet (as opposed to an all out "show"). I got one for a pound after I'd been stung for £2.50 for the other!! Bit of glueing, filing and filling and the jobs a good 'un. Well, in my dreams! Still it's a thought. A Kitmaster is only £10-12 from Dapol. Better than e-bay! Thanks Bill, your skills are amazing and I love your soothing unflappable voice!
Yup. A very freak accident as the spring would have had to be touching the end of the live wire and the chassis. But it would heat up very quickly and get very hot under 12v
Yup the spring acted as an element. When I was a wee lad I decided to see what would happen if I poked at a burning electric fire element with a screwdriver. Boom! Fortunately my dad believed me when I said I accidentally dropped the screwdriver into the fire. He then showed me how to mend a fuse! :)
That’s quiet true to the real locomotives! The bullied spam can body work could catch fire due to the chain driven valve gear which was in a bath of oil!
@@mikeking2539Just to elaborate a bit. The early Bullied streamline Pacific’s were at the time revolutionary as the valve gear was driven by chains in an totally enclosed oil bath between the frames. However, oil would leak from various seals to find it’s way into the lagging between the boiler and the casing. This, on the odd occasion, due to extreme heat, would ignite.
Apparently it was already in the loco when bought from auction. Always check a used loco thoroughly inside and out. I've encountered seeds, bits of metal, dead insects and even a person!
How onEarth could it have EVER got hot enough to melt a hole through the body? In all of my years playing with model trains, I have never had anything like this happen! Was he putting Mains power through the thing?
You'd be surprised how quickly a short can heat up even with very little voltage. I once nearly set my trousers on fire because I had a AAA battery and some loose change in my pocket. Just by chance the coins created a circuit and the heat actually burnt me. In this case the spring acted like an element. Just a very freak accident.
Very good reminder of the care required with all of these engines, and the danger of loose items getting in the wrong places. Thanks Bill
I’ve got the airfix/dapol plastic kit Bill, un-made, you’re welcome to have it.
Build the body part of the kit, paint and fit. It’d make a good video.
She sure DID spit FIRE !!
Just goes to show that something relatively simple causes a short . Amazing
That looks like a spring from a biro, just goes to show you should always check! The way the "Sunshine yellow" lining stops and starts again with slots has me thinking this was the short lived "Golden Arrow" version with Golden Arrow headboard and side arrows that clipped on.
Would it be possible to repair? Cut out the black part and see if the slight bend on the side can be pull back into shape with hot air. Then some plasticard and filler with some black paint.
It'll buff out with some T-Cut 🤣
Living upto it's name there! I'm surprised my castle class loco didn't do the same when the motor seized! I need to get a hold of a replacement ringfield motor... Problem is I'll probably end up breaking the loco more by taking it apart 😂
the dapol ex airfix kit body does fit nice with some modelling skills
I agree, I did this with a Tri-ang chassis.
@@malminstralYes, me too. I used a Biggin Hill kit body on the old Triang chassis to produce 21C164 Fighter Command. The SR livery lines are available on an HRMS decal sheet.
Possibly the most damage I have ever seen to a model Locomotive. I have a lovely example which still receives frequent running. It was Spitfire that was involved in the Lewisham Disaster sadly resulting in a considerable loss of life. After which the Locomotive was scrapped as it was beyond repair.
Interesting video 👍 I hope the body can be restored maybe someone can 3D print the missing part) or replaced!
Fun video. I'm sure a Southern modeller out there would buy the body and have a go at repairing the damage. All eras of Bulleid models are super popular so it's sure to find some use somewhere!
I'm sure a man of your skill can handle a Dremel type tool? Or maybe your nimble guitarist hands can do the job with a scalpel, mini saw, or similar? If this were mine I would take a section of the boiler "roof" out from behind the dome cover, using the green as a cut line, then cut the cab roof & front away down to the roof intersection. I have two shells one Kitmaster one Hornby that I picked up a a swap meet (as opposed to an all out "show"). I got one for a pound after I'd been stung for £2.50 for the other!! Bit of glueing, filing and filling and the jobs a good 'un. Well, in my dreams! Still it's a thought. A Kitmaster is only £10-12 from Dapol. Better than e-bay! Thanks Bill, your skills are amazing and I love your soothing unflappable voice!
Looks like the spring turned into a 1 bar electric fire element, that could of been worse.
Yup. A very freak accident as the spring would have had to be touching the end of the live wire and the chassis. But it would heat up very quickly and get very hot under 12v
The spring has acted like a heat element like what you have on ovens and toasters and has cooked its self.
Yup that's exactly what's happened.
Perversely, it may be cheaper to find a whole model, possibly being sold for spares or repairs, rather than to try to buy just the body.
I can remember Old electric fires with Coiled elements - Great Autopsy with Hopeful Result 👏🏻👍🏻
Yup the spring acted as an element. When I was a wee lad I decided to see what would happen if I poked at a burning electric fire element with a screwdriver. Boom! Fortunately my dad believed me when I said I accidentally dropped the screwdriver into the fire. He then showed me how to mend a fuse! :)
That’s quiet true to the real locomotives! The bullied spam can body work could catch fire due to the chain driven valve gear which was in a bath of oil!
Never ever heard of that before!
@@mikeking2539Just to elaborate a bit. The early Bullied streamline Pacific’s were at the time revolutionary as the valve gear was driven by chains in an totally enclosed oil bath between the frames. However, oil would leak from various seals to find it’s way into the lagging between the boiler and the casing. This, on the odd occasion, due to extreme heat, would ignite.
Hi Bill.
There's a body going on the well known auction site for £29.75p + p&p.
Paul. 👍❤
There are bodies for this locomotive around £35. I think it's well worth getting one. Where did that spring come from?
Apparently it was already in the loco when bought from auction. Always check a used loco thoroughly inside and out. I've encountered seeds, bits of metal, dead insects and even a person!
Airfix did a kit of this so if you could get your hands on one you could do a bit of cut and shut?
could you use a dapol kit body?
Could probably still run it as is, its got a nice hole for ventilation!
Have you found the spitfire body
Yes. Will be dealing with that soon.
BILL , THERE IS AN OLD AIRFIX KIT AVAILABLE , WOULD IT BE AN IDEA TO CONSTRUCT THE BODY OFF OF IT AND FIT IT TO THE CHASSIS. CHEERS , FRANK .
Would an airfix kit body fit?
Any ideas as to where the spring came from ? Apologies if I missed that.
Apparently it was in the loco when purchased at auction. Always check used locos inside and out.
Hopefully some kind soul will have a body kicking about
Heck, sure is a bit of a pickle.
How onEarth could it have EVER got hot enough to melt a hole through the body? In all of my years playing with model trains, I have never had anything like this happen! Was he putting Mains power through the thing?
That's what I was thinking. Must be using a heck of a controller!
You'd be surprised how quickly a short can heat up even with very little voltage. I once nearly set my trousers on fire because I had a AAA battery and some loose change in my pocket. Just by chance the coins created a circuit and the heat actually burnt me. In this case the spring acted like an element. Just a very freak accident.
good vid on channelthanks lee
Why not to convert it into a whatif loco ?
Or steampunk, fantasy or scifi ?
That would I do. 🙂
"Look how they massacred mu boy."😉
Dremle out the roof section , piece of platicard and milliput , spray ,, sorted ,
That thought occurred to me too. Tricky if a good result is to be got but what's to loose trying?