Hornby Battle of Britain Class "Spitfire" : Post Mortem

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  • Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
  • Chap called Philip got in touch to tell me his Hornby Battle of Britain Class "Spitfire" had had a fatal meltdown. He asked if I would like to have the model to find out why it had almost caught fire.
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  • @jonballard1
    @jonballard1 11 месяцев назад +6

    I’ve got the airfix/dapol plastic kit Bill, un-made, you’re welcome to have it.
    Build the body part of the kit, paint and fit. It’d make a good video.

  • @Rich-bb5gp
    @Rich-bb5gp 5 месяцев назад

    That looks like a spring from a biro, just goes to show you should always check! The way the "Sunshine yellow" lining stops and starts again with slots has me thinking this was the short lived "Golden Arrow" version with Golden Arrow headboard and side arrows that clipped on.

  • @johndrew3202
    @johndrew3202 11 месяцев назад +2

    Very good reminder of the care required with all of these engines, and the danger of loose items getting in the wrong places. Thanks Bill

  • @MarkInLA
    @MarkInLA 11 месяцев назад +4

    She sure DID spit FIRE !!

  • @BeastyBill88
    @BeastyBill88 2 месяца назад

    Living upto it's name there! I'm surprised my castle class loco didn't do the same when the motor seized! I need to get a hold of a replacement ringfield motor... Problem is I'll probably end up breaking the loco more by taking it apart 😂

  • @shakeyhandsshedmodelrailwa2494
    @shakeyhandsshedmodelrailwa2494 11 месяцев назад +3

    the dapol ex airfix kit body does fit nice with some modelling skills

    • @malminstral
      @malminstral 11 месяцев назад +2

      I agree, I did this with a Tri-ang chassis.

    • @steveevans7019
      @steveevans7019 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@malminstralYes, me too. I used a Biggin Hill kit body on the old Triang chassis to produce 21C164 Fighter Command. The SR livery lines are available on an HRMS decal sheet.

  • @russellbenton2987
    @russellbenton2987 11 месяцев назад +2

    Just goes to show that something relatively simple causes a short . Amazing

  • @daviddorrell8390
    @daviddorrell8390 11 месяцев назад +5

    Would it be possible to repair? Cut out the black part and see if the slight bend on the side can be pull back into shape with hot air. Then some plasticard and filler with some black paint.

  • @railway187
    @railway187 11 месяцев назад +2

    Interesting video 👍 I hope the body can be restored maybe someone can 3D print the missing part) or replaced!

  • @sophiaevans9908
    @sophiaevans9908 11 месяцев назад +4

    It'll buff out with some T-Cut 🤣

  • @guyclark2975
    @guyclark2975 10 месяцев назад

    Possibly the most damage I have ever seen to a model Locomotive. I have a lovely example which still receives frequent running. It was Spitfire that was involved in the Lewisham Disaster sadly resulting in a considerable loss of life. After which the Locomotive was scrapped as it was beyond repair.

  • @shedhead00
    @shedhead00 11 месяцев назад +2

    Looks like the spring turned into a 1 bar electric fire element, that could of been worse.

    • @oobill
      @oobill  11 месяцев назад

      Yup. A very freak accident as the spring would have had to be touching the end of the live wire and the chassis. But it would heat up very quickly and get very hot under 12v

  • @Tobeshadow
    @Tobeshadow 11 месяцев назад

    Fun video. I'm sure a Southern modeller out there would buy the body and have a go at repairing the damage. All eras of Bulleid models are super popular so it's sure to find some use somewhere!

  • @tommyselby
    @tommyselby 11 месяцев назад +2

    That’s quiet true to the real locomotives! The bullied spam can body work could catch fire due to the chain driven valve gear which was in a bath of oil!

    • @mikeking2539
      @mikeking2539 11 месяцев назад

      Never ever heard of that before!

    • @mickboakes7023
      @mickboakes7023 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@mikeking2539Just to elaborate a bit. The early Bullied streamline Pacific’s were at the time revolutionary as the valve gear was driven by chains in an totally enclosed oil bath between the frames. However, oil would leak from various seals to find it’s way into the lagging between the boiler and the casing. This, on the odd occasion, due to extreme heat, would ignite.

  • @alancharles3459
    @alancharles3459 10 месяцев назад

    I'm sure a man of your skill can handle a Dremel type tool? Or maybe your nimble guitarist hands can do the job with a scalpel, mini saw, or similar? If this were mine I would take a section of the boiler "roof" out from behind the dome cover, using the green as a cut line, then cut the cab roof & front away down to the roof intersection. I have two shells one Kitmaster one Hornby that I picked up a a swap meet (as opposed to an all out "show"). I got one for a pound after I'd been stung for £2.50 for the other!! Bit of glueing, filing and filling and the jobs a good 'un. Well, in my dreams! Still it's a thought. A Kitmaster is only £10-12 from Dapol. Better than e-bay! Thanks Bill, your skills are amazing and I love your soothing unflappable voice!

  • @donniblanco5239
    @donniblanco5239 11 месяцев назад

    I can remember Old electric fires with Coiled elements - Great Autopsy with Hopeful Result 👏🏻👍🏻

    • @oobill
      @oobill  11 месяцев назад +1

      Yup the spring acted as an element. When I was a wee lad I decided to see what would happen if I poked at a burning electric fire element with a screwdriver. Boom! Fortunately my dad believed me when I said I accidentally dropped the screwdriver into the fire. He then showed me how to mend a fuse! :)

  • @ListerDavid
    @ListerDavid 11 месяцев назад

    The spring has acted like a heat element like what you have on ovens and toasters and has cooked its self.

    • @oobill
      @oobill  11 месяцев назад +1

      Yup that's exactly what's happened.

  • @jeffreysmith156
    @jeffreysmith156 10 месяцев назад

    Perversely, it may be cheaper to find a whole model, possibly being sold for spares or repairs, rather than to try to buy just the body.

  • @platformten5958
    @platformten5958 11 месяцев назад

    Hi Bill.
    There's a body going on the well known auction site for £29.75p + p&p.
    Paul. 👍❤

  • @paulcherrytrains3339
    @paulcherrytrains3339 11 месяцев назад +1

    There are bodies for this locomotive around £35. I think it's well worth getting one. Where did that spring come from?

    • @oobill
      @oobill  11 месяцев назад +2

      Apparently it was already in the loco when bought from auction. Always check a used loco thoroughly inside and out. I've encountered seeds, bits of metal, dead insects and even a person!

  • @numptypootis8012
    @numptypootis8012 11 месяцев назад +1

    Could probably still run it as is, its got a nice hole for ventilation!

  • @alangordon7508
    @alangordon7508 11 месяцев назад

    Airfix did a kit of this so if you could get your hands on one you could do a bit of cut and shut?

  • @TheAntisocialTrain
    @TheAntisocialTrain 11 месяцев назад +1

    Heck, sure is a bit of a pickle.

  • @ronnoman61
    @ronnoman61 11 месяцев назад

    Any ideas as to where the spring came from ? Apologies if I missed that.

    • @oobill
      @oobill  11 месяцев назад

      Apparently it was in the loco when purchased at auction. Always check used locos inside and out.

  • @robjw66111
    @robjw66111 11 месяцев назад

    could you use a dapol kit body?

  • @keithconway7578
    @keithconway7578 5 месяцев назад

    Have you found the spitfire body

    • @oobill
      @oobill  5 месяцев назад

      Yes. Will be dealing with that soon.

  • @daviemaclean61
    @daviemaclean61 11 месяцев назад +1

    Hopefully some kind soul will have a body kicking about

  • @frananmar1
    @frananmar1 11 месяцев назад

    BILL , THERE IS AN OLD AIRFIX KIT AVAILABLE , WOULD IT BE AN IDEA TO CONSTRUCT THE BODY OFF OF IT AND FIT IT TO THE CHASSIS. CHEERS , FRANK .

  • @nevillepowell7502
    @nevillepowell7502 11 месяцев назад

    Would an airfix kit body fit?

  • @anfieldroadlayoutintheloft5204
    @anfieldroadlayoutintheloft5204 11 месяцев назад

    good vid on channelthanks lee

  • @swyntopia
    @swyntopia 11 месяцев назад

    Why not to convert it into a whatif loco ?
    Or steampunk, fantasy or scifi ?
    That would I do. 🙂

  • @mikeking2539
    @mikeking2539 11 месяцев назад +1

    How onEarth could it have EVER got hot enough to melt a hole through the body? In all of my years playing with model trains, I have never had anything like this happen! Was he putting Mains power through the thing?

    • @PaulinesPastimes
      @PaulinesPastimes 11 месяцев назад

      That's what I was thinking. Must be using a heck of a controller!

    • @oobill
      @oobill  11 месяцев назад

      You'd be surprised how quickly a short can heat up even with very little voltage. I once nearly set my trousers on fire because I had a AAA battery and some loose change in my pocket. Just by chance the coins created a circuit and the heat actually burnt me. In this case the spring acted like an element. Just a very freak accident.

  • @arrow1414
    @arrow1414 11 месяцев назад

    "Look how they massacred mu boy."😉

  • @tellitlikeitis-rg4ny
    @tellitlikeitis-rg4ny 11 месяцев назад +1

    Dremle out the roof section , piece of platicard and milliput , spray ,, sorted ,

    • @OOElectronics
      @OOElectronics 11 месяцев назад

      That thought occurred to me too. Tricky if a good result is to be got but what's to loose trying?