I’ve had success with a very similar deck, although I added a breeding pool and 4x deathrite shaman. I’ve also been impressed by 1x raffine’s informant as a grindy value piece, though I’m not convinced it’s necessary. The toughest matchup I’ve run into is field of the dead because they have way more inevitability, but assassin’s trophy and unmoored ego in the sideboard help
Yo Arne, can you test out Agent of Raffine in Timeless? I think it has real potential since it doesn't die to Bowmaster and there is a lot of Draw-Go in the format due to the counterspells and instant speed threats.
Thoughts on 4 bauble? Used to be played in the lurrus dimir modern deck, and was decent with lurrus, I guess recurring bowmasters might just be good enough now 😂.
I agree. The free draw and deck manipulation feels like it’s worth playing the baubles. I played it in death shadow when lurrus was legal. Dimir control and Jeskai xerox play baubles in vintage also. Bauble is just a fantastic utility piece.
Agree, I think Bauble belongs in any Lurrus deck. I also think 24 lands is too much for any deck in this efficient of a format. I would cut 2-4 lands for Baubles and Lorien Revealed (it has fantastic synergy with mystic sanctuary). Lorien also allows more shuffling for Brainstorm when you don't have a fetchland active.
Looks extremely fun, unfortunately even with my relatively control complete collection its still so many rares and even a good few mythics to craft. It feels like when I was trying to get my account up to snuff for historic way back when all over again
I've played a lot of this format, and you have to play 4x Thoughtseize maindeck. It's just a completely absurd card in the format. You need to play it. You can board it out on the draw and where it's bad, but it's so stupidly good in most matchups. Otherwise I absolutely love this decklist, I also wonder if the One Ring is worth giving up Lurrus, since we don't actually have much to replay. I also think you're playing way too much creature removal which is dead in Control matchups.
I don't think Memory Lapse belongs in this deck. Maybe 2 Drown in the Loch (seems good with everyone using fetchlands) or more copies of Change the Equation?
Nothing to ramp into, and if we did have ramp payoffs it would a) be a totally different deck and b) be a lot less competitive, since ramp just isn't good in the format right now. So right now there's no real reason to play a ton of acceleration. Oko is tempting, but Oko is just one card, and messes with the fact that basically our entire deck is cantrips and interaction, also we lose Lurrus. We also don't really need Oko to take over the game, we have plenty of huge card-draw that can do that instead. Honestly if anything I'd splash white for Swords and 3feri, or give up Lurrus to play the Ring, since we're not doing much with Lurrus anyway.
Great deck, should probably play demonic tutor though. Edit: I am dumb, he plays it in his sideboard, I would probably maindeck it but he is better at mtg than me so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Please keep the timeless content coming!!!!
It was only a matter of time until Arne figured out a way to play UB control in yet another format.
Loving timeless content with thorough analysis. There is no need to apologize for taking your time.
I’ve had success with a very similar deck, although I added a breeding pool and 4x deathrite shaman. I’ve also been impressed by 1x raffine’s informant as a grindy value piece, though I’m not convinced it’s necessary. The toughest matchup I’ve run into is field of the dead because they have way more inevitability, but assassin’s trophy and unmoored ego in the sideboard help
if you are adding green, just sideboard Maelstrom Pulse also if needed. will allow you to push through on a turn that you need to get in on
Love the control analysis and deep dive; keep them coming!
watching you play control is ..... *chef's kiss*, it always makes my brain expand slightly
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Congrats on the 10k!!!!
Yo Arne, can you test out Agent of Raffine in Timeless? I think it has real potential since it doesn't die to Bowmaster and there is a lot of Draw-Go in the format due to the counterspells and instant speed threats.
@AshmakerTV Would love to see that, but sadly he has greedmode on his Twitch VODs so no luck there...
Was really waiting for this one, seems really well positioned too
Thoughts on 4 bauble? Used to be played in the lurrus dimir modern deck, and was decent with lurrus, I guess recurring bowmasters might just be good enough now 😂.
bauble in control seems odd
I agree. The free draw and deck manipulation feels like it’s worth playing the baubles. I played it in death shadow when lurrus was legal.
Dimir control and Jeskai xerox play baubles in vintage also. Bauble is just a fantastic utility piece.
Agree, I think Bauble belongs in any Lurrus deck. I also think 24 lands is too much for any deck in this efficient of a format. I would cut 2-4 lands for Baubles and Lorien Revealed (it has fantastic synergy with mystic sanctuary). Lorien also allows more shuffling for Brainstorm when you don't have a fetchland active.
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@@DiscardatRandom its a delayed draw seems clunky and very dependent on lurrus to be good
Rome wasn't built in a day, it was built within the time it takes you to play a single turn. XD
Arne and Dimir, name a more iconic duo.
Looks extremely fun, unfortunately even with my relatively control complete collection its still so many rares and even a good few mythics to craft. It feels like when I was trying to get my account up to snuff for historic way back when all over again
is there a boomer jund list?? mishras bauble and lightning bolt are legal, right?
How would you make a modern format version of this deck?
I've played a lot of this format, and you have to play 4x Thoughtseize maindeck. It's just a completely absurd card in the format. You need to play it. You can board it out on the draw and where it's bad, but it's so stupidly good in most matchups. Otherwise I absolutely love this decklist, I also wonder if the One Ring is worth giving up Lurrus, since we don't actually have much to replay. I also think you're playing way too much creature removal which is dead in Control matchups.
as you cleary se you dont NEED to
this sure looks familiar; i've been doing pretty good in timeless lately but when i do loose it's almost always this deck build.
Hey Arne! Love the deck, but I would love a version with a more straight forward win con, any ideas? I play mostly bo1
Hm, difficult to accomplish that while sticking to lurrus. You could drop lurrus and play Sheoldred + Ring. Or go into Green for Uro.
Loving these!
Really sweet, efficient looking deck. Any chance we might see some Timeless Lurrus Rogues action in the future?
Seconded
Anyone have recommendations for using this list in Bo1? Any changes to the main deck?
I don't think Memory Lapse belongs in this deck. Maybe 2 Drown in the Loch (seems good with everyone using fetchlands) or more copies of Change the Equation?
Bitter reunion I think has the edge over eliminate
What do you think about just adding uro here and maybe growth spiral and play sultai ?:)
Nothing to ramp into, and if we did have ramp payoffs it would a) be a totally different deck and b) be a lot less competitive, since ramp just isn't good in the format right now. So right now there's no real reason to play a ton of acceleration. Oko is tempting, but Oko is just one card, and messes with the fact that basically our entire deck is cantrips and interaction, also we lose Lurrus. We also don't really need Oko to take over the game, we have plenty of huge card-draw that can do that instead. Honestly if anything I'd splash white for Swords and 3feri, or give up Lurrus to play the Ring, since we're not doing much with Lurrus anyway.
Loving the timeless veedios
More of this deck
Great deck, should probably play demonic tutor though.
Edit: I am dumb, he plays it in his sideboard, I would probably maindeck it but he is better at mtg than me so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Keep up the good work.
more timeless match plz🎉
Dimir Control? I'm in love as well. ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
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As an archmage's charm lover, I'm disappointed
You were too greedy in the first game against grixis. Should have gained some life along the way.
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