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  • @leonardoross8133
    @leonardoross8133 День назад +46

    I love this channel so much, beacause even though there are literally zero stakes, no medals, no prices, no top 8's, I'm always super involved watching the matches. These videos are supremely entertaining, insightful, super well made and I hope you guys keep doing them for a long time

  • @MrCrazycarlwinter
    @MrCrazycarlwinter День назад +81

    Tommi's elephant was fantastic. Andrea, you made a good attempt. Glad to see PM spotlighted again!

    • @sl3848
      @sl3848 День назад +12

      That is generous to Andrea 😂

  • @TheDevlain
    @TheDevlain День назад +55

    I was waiting in the shadows for the next premodern video. This makes me so happy. I'm going back to this comment after watching the match
    Edit: what's funny is that I already built that RG Zoo only because a friend always complained that I only play control. Love that deck, it has really really interesting play patterns, it is not just "play creature, attack".

    • @MengusWorkshop
      @MengusWorkshop  День назад +17

      @@TheDevlain tommi and toffel will also play premodern soon!

    • @sandorc
      @sandorc День назад +1

      @@MengusWorkshop very powerful combo

    • @TheDevlain
      @TheDevlain День назад +2

      @@MengusWorkshop I'm glad good news keep coming =D

  • @toastermon2272
    @toastermon2272 День назад +37

    Awesome to see more Premodern, definitely my favorite format on this channel. It also feels like the perfect power level to watch and play.

  • @boataccident1492
    @boataccident1492 16 часов назад +2

    its been really great seeing tommy's personality starting to shine through! The best part anout magic in paper is playing against your friends and just eating your lumps however it goes, and this is exactly how these videos feel. Gods, to think we're getting content with the cardmarket boys soon!!

  • @shanepaulson9751
    @shanepaulson9751 День назад +19

    “My elephant looks like something else… let’s use yours” 17:15
    -Andrea Mengucci

    • @SebastianMorath
      @SebastianMorath 23 часа назад +1

      geee i am still laughing on oit hahahha

  • @petruhlir6407
    @petruhlir6407 19 часов назад +6

    Guys! Thank you for Premodern videos! I love it. Please don’t stop. 🙏👍👍👍

  • @fpawluszmtg
    @fpawluszmtg День назад +10

    PREMODERN VEEDEO!?!??!!? INSTANT LIKE AND COMMENT!!!

  • @nickward6339
    @nickward6339 6 часов назад +1

    The white border island bit is so good haha. Great gameplay!

  • @rbeley
    @rbeley День назад +5

    LoL
    I basically flinched too when you drew that white-bordered island 🤣

    • @awxangel6781
      @awxangel6781 18 часов назад

      free information! He knew Andrea had another island in hand because he refused to play the white border.

  • @KaoruSan666
    @KaoruSan666 7 часов назад

    Always enjoy the games of you two. No excessive edits, effects, challenges etc. that aim just for clicks. Just two friends having fun playing magic. Targeting yourself with Mogg Fanatic at 1 life :) Way to go!

  • @estelaplateada4
    @estelaplateada4 День назад +5

    Keep it coming, love premodern!

  • @franciscofloresulloa8080
    @franciscofloresulloa8080 День назад +7

    LOVE TO SEE PREMODERN!

  • @ivarskailand1745
    @ivarskailand1745 День назад +12

    MORE PREMODERN BABBYYYY!

  • @LemorasCards
    @LemorasCards День назад +6

    Love the premodern videos.

  • @Leuber
    @Leuber День назад +6

    I would buy those cards at TCGplayer in a heartbeat if only premodern, the best format in existence right now, was played where I live…
    Anyway, great video!!!! 😃👍

  • @StaxPiece
    @StaxPiece День назад +5

    Really love the premodern content my favorite videos to watch.

  • @joehenderson1
    @joehenderson1 11 часов назад +1

    Thank you for the premodern content! Premodern is my favorite format. Cheers!

  • @artlailey1496
    @artlailey1496 День назад +8

    Love some premodern!

  • @dustinseth1
    @dustinseth1 22 часа назад +3

    Pre-moderrrrrrrrrn! I love this format

  • @Swamp_Thing_4487
    @Swamp_Thing_4487 День назад +1

    There's nothing I love more than to see some people bring back and play once again, some of the oldest cards in the formats, sleeved up and just having fun, I love it, even with MTG arena online, we don't see the old cards like these anymore and magic is intended to be played by all formats, it's magic and y'all brought the magic back!

  • @andreadonelli3978
    @andreadonelli3978 День назад +7

    La gara di disegno per l'elefante poteva fungere da Shahrazad ahahah
    Grandissimi come sempre❤️❤️

  • @Rec0ba
    @Rec0ba 17 часов назад +1

    I love the Zoo Deck. Started playing tournament magic with a list like this one in Vintage after onslaught was released.

  • @dgh329
    @dgh329 19 часов назад +2

    Haven't played it but I love me some premodern content. Thanks

  • @giorgiodalmasso9288
    @giorgiodalmasso9288 20 часов назад +2

    Pre modern is fantastic 😍 thanks for the content 😊

  • @123Perillo
    @123Perillo 19 часов назад +2

    That was a very good match, Tommy definitely deserved the win

  • @Nightinglass
    @Nightinglass День назад +2

    Such fun decks! Wish I could play some Premodern here in Canada

    • @zirilan3398
      @zirilan3398 9 часов назад +1

      There should be PreModern players in Canada too, it's fairly big in the US already with more and more shops adapting. There is also always the PreModern discord to play via webcam

  • @Levitate420
    @Levitate420 16 часов назад +1

    Love the surprise Rudolph cosplay as well Mengu 😉

  • @david21216
    @david21216 21 час назад +1

    Always happy to see a new post from the workshop!

  • @friedaiceborn1663
    @friedaiceborn1663 День назад +3

    The blue deck is so much card disadvantage. I can't believe mengu would play such a deck.

  • @TlatoaniItzcoatl
    @TlatoaniItzcoatl День назад +2

    Tommy playing Red Green, who would have guessed it? My favorite color combo.

  • @lonsmithicus
    @lonsmithicus 18 часов назад +1

    Good stuff. Great islands. Even better sideboarding.

  • @alfredofranceschini5606
    @alfredofranceschini5606 12 часов назад +1

    Mengu Spacchettato is always good to see! ❤

  • @DerJoe92
    @DerJoe92 День назад +1

    That elephant owl mosquito mutant Andrea drew would really go crazy with some "Embiggen" spells!

  • @rossmcgleish7523
    @rossmcgleish7523 13 часов назад +2

    Yay premodern content

  • @lesh0
    @lesh0 День назад +1

    Great video, very well explained for the noobs!

  • @Hieuby_Dooby
    @Hieuby_Dooby 22 часа назад +1

    Tommy's elephant is top notch, ggs!

  • @BenziTrain
    @BenziTrain День назад +2

    Tommy wins the elephant challenge! Great games!

  • @kyledouglas1018
    @kyledouglas1018 23 часа назад +1

    Karl would be losing his mind over the dice arrangement in the opening 😂

  • @Veggie_Dogg
    @Veggie_Dogg 20 часов назад +1

    This is some amazing magic game play! Subscribed!

  • @serrahool
    @serrahool 20 часов назад +3

    I'm a simple man, i read "premodern" in a title and i instalike

  • @dreadfl
    @dreadfl День назад +3

    Yes! It's always a good day when Mengu posts another Premodern video! Is that David Raczka's Dreadnought list that Brian Selden won Lobstercon with?

  • @IPlayMagic
    @IPlayMagic День назад +1

    There’s also a really cool miracle gro sligh deck with quirion dryad and a few copies of rancor and call of the herd. Nice video as always

  • @AbesOnAPlaneFilms
    @AbesOnAPlaneFilms 21 час назад +1

    Love premodern! Thanks guys!!!!🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
    Can we have more legacy someday? 🙏

  • @Nascherful
    @Nascherful 12 часов назад +1

    Nice Video! Would love to see premodern a mono black aggro or mono black with the rack

  • @motherofgeese1845
    @motherofgeese1845 День назад +1

    Love waking up to new video of yours great video as usual

  • @mystegune2039
    @mystegune2039 День назад +5

    Thanks you for putting old art during edit

  • @roberto6698
    @roberto6698 13 часов назад +1

    17:21 CIAO DA CELESTOPOLI 👑🐘

  • @ralr
    @ralr 5 часов назад

    Premodern? Instant watch! ❤

  • @matthewbenoit3098
    @matthewbenoit3098 День назад +3

    Love love love me some premodern

  • @gmongo
    @gmongo День назад +3

    Mengu the Red-Nosed blue-mage

  • @guitarwithjacob
    @guitarwithjacob День назад +1

    long live zoo!
    great games guys.

  • @sh41
    @sh41 12 часов назад +1

    The power of zoo even when creatures were underpowered. Surprised to not see a Kird Ape there

    • @zirilan3398
      @zirilan3398 9 часов назад +1

      Kird Ape isn't part of the format sadly as the last old printing was in Revised (which isn't part of PreModern) and the next one was all the way in 9th

    • @sh41
      @sh41 9 часов назад

      @zirilan3398 oh, I thought there was a printing in 4th, my bad

    • @zirilan3398
      @zirilan3398 9 часов назад

      @@sh41 the one printing that looks like 4th was Summer Magic

    • @sh41
      @sh41 5 часов назад

      @@zirilan3398 I remember playing the Ape on "Type 2" but maybe it was "Type 1.5" a.k.a. legacy
      Summer Magic, the ghost set

  • @tommullings9912
    @tommullings9912 23 часа назад +1

    those r the 2 worst elephants ive ever seen. always love the premodern gameplay tho!

  • @necro0fn0butcher
    @necro0fn0butcher День назад +1

    Yeah. More mengus workshop ❤

  • @wilux2469
    @wilux2469 4 часа назад

    Mengu's nose getting festive with a Rudolph outfit.

  • @vinc_cuz86
    @vinc_cuz86 День назад +2

    More Premodern plss!!!

  • @user-gj1lb6xp3t
    @user-gj1lb6xp3t День назад +2

    yeaaaah! premodern ftw
    tommy won the token contest

  • @OctupleThreat
    @OctupleThreat 15 часов назад +1

    @12:53
    Always go out on your own terms
    07

  • @golgariguy
    @golgariguy 4 часа назад

    YEEESSS!! MORE PREMODERN CONTENT!!!

  • @MrChocobodorado
    @MrChocobodorado 12 часов назад

    What a great content, thanks a lot! I have one question/doubt, in the second game when Tommy loses to the dreadnought, he could have lasted one more turn blocking with the fanatic and sacrifing it to not take the trample damage? I don't think that one turn would have changed the output, just curious. And thanks again for so great videos and format ❤

  • @irengig8362
    @irengig8362 День назад +1

    Fantastic content, keep it up

  • @SakariCastren
    @SakariCastren День назад +1

    I love the red nose and Tommi

  • @qjc1142pigs
    @qjc1142pigs День назад +1

    I wish there was a one of Illusionary mask, for the best way to sneak in dreadnaught ; P or at least most expensive ; D

    • @zirilan3398
      @zirilan3398 9 часов назад

      It's not part of the Format thankfully

    • @qjc1142pigs
      @qjc1142pigs 2 часа назад

      @ oh right I forgot sadge ; P

  • @JacobBos1988
    @JacobBos1988 День назад +1

    Love me some premodern❤
    Two questions: How good do you think Psychatog is positioned in the format?
    And what are you guys favorite premodern basics?

  • @AlbinoTurtles
    @AlbinoTurtles Час назад

    Awesome as always.

  • @HexDrinkerMTG
    @HexDrinkerMTG 12 минут назад

    Mengu's elephant 👀

  • @WatchThatFast
    @WatchThatFast День назад +2

    Go PremoderN!!!

  • @lordargoth4653
    @lordargoth4653 13 часов назад +1

    Great to ser how to stop the “gambas”😂😂😂

  • @guitarwithjacob
    @guitarwithjacob День назад

    here's an idea, you and Tommy could auction off your hand drawn tokens as some kind of fundraiser.

  • @guilhermemorgado9967
    @guilhermemorgado9967 День назад +1

    At 6:25 couldnt the Factory pump itself? Or does it become summoning sick after it becomes a creature and then cant use the tap ability?

    • @TheDevlain
      @TheDevlain День назад +2

      @@guilhermemorgado9967 it has summoning sickness ineed

  • @guimartgon
    @guimartgon 14 часов назад +1

    17:34 it's time to draw well? I have unfortunate news about that elephant drawing

  • @sandorc
    @sandorc День назад +1

    uuu guys!!! This deck is so powerful!!

  • @ArtyGarciaArceo
    @ArtyGarciaArceo День назад +1

    Fantástico!

  • @joshua_lee732
    @joshua_lee732 23 часа назад +1

    Game 1 stifle the lavamancer untap attack with dreadnaught????

  • @BigFlap720
    @BigFlap720 День назад +4

    Lmaoooo 17:28

  • @styfen
    @styfen День назад

    STIFLENAUGHT! YES!
    Edit: Also please put links to the decks in the description, I love looking at them.

  • @HughLeFitness
    @HughLeFitness День назад +1

    zoo decklist?

  • @xukigandia4657
    @xukigandia4657 5 часов назад

    More premodern please!❤

  • @DarthSmirnoff
    @DarthSmirnoff 21 час назад +1

    Mengu getting real sensitive about white bordered islands. Shows how young he is. :p

  • @chenhennig7673
    @chenhennig7673 День назад +1

    Tommy won the elephant token challenge

  • @etaikurtzman3525
    @etaikurtzman3525 4 часа назад

    mengu where did you get that sweater it's sick

  • @nehebtheunwhorthy3313
    @nehebtheunwhorthy3313 День назад +1

    Hey! Does Andrea hate all white boarded lands or only the islands? Also, why?

    • @MengusWorkshop
      @MengusWorkshop  День назад +1

      I hate all white border lands equal 😅

  • @zirilan3398
    @zirilan3398 23 часа назад +2

    There is no best deck in the format, unlike the clusterfuck that Modern has become we have actual deck diversity and a constant ebb and flood of deckarchetyps. Nought ist just one that has been consistently good throughout the life of the format.

  • @davidhouseman4328
    @davidhouseman4328 День назад +1

    I always thought of Zoo as including white. I'm curious what you think is needed to call a deck zoo, wizards and goblins not being typical zoo animals either?

    • @piemaster831
      @piemaster831 День назад +1

      Zoo is any deck with a 1 mana 2/1

    • @MengusWorkshop
      @MengusWorkshop  День назад +3

      Kird ape is the first member of the zoo since 1993

    • @davidhouseman4328
      @davidhouseman4328 День назад +1

      @@MengusWorkshop I thought it was Kird Ape + Savannah Lions, but that may be my retcon based on 9th not the original.

    • @davidhouseman4328
      @davidhouseman4328 День назад +1

      @@piemaster831 I see it being about 2 power 1 drops, but would you call a mono coloured deck zoo?

    • @naaroth87
      @naaroth87 День назад +2

      i believe that kird ape+boa defines a zoo deck

  • @kovala
    @kovala День назад +1

    Am I crazy or is he playing Portent as though it was a Ponder I. E. drawing the extra card immediately vs. at the beginning of his next turn?

  • @Atlas.carry.Nacken
    @Atlas.carry.Nacken День назад +1

    Andreas Elefant Looks Like nadu

  • @mystegune2039
    @mystegune2039 День назад +1

    I love your video

  • @parkcollie-zd6jo
    @parkcollie-zd6jo День назад

    Magic noob question, why does Tommy wait until upkeep at 5:00 before naturalize? What if Mengu had counterspell in hand?

    • @parkcollie-zd6jo
      @parkcollie-zd6jo День назад +7

      Omg he answers the question immediately haha

    • @davidhouseman4328
      @davidhouseman4328 День назад +2

      It's just a balance. More outs but less bad effects. One thing I'd add is it's common to play then so Mengu has the tap mana early which a blue deck doesn't love doing.

  • @matichribar5823
    @matichribar5823 11 часов назад +1

    I like premodern

  • @EmbeJuicemazzopazzo
    @EmbeJuicemazzopazzo День назад +1

    GG

  • @mountainwalk
    @mountainwalk День назад +1

    Good games.

  • @VovaYatsyk
    @VovaYatsyk 16 часов назад

    I still didn't get it, what is Zoo? is it the current legacy meta?

    • @VovaYatsyk
      @VovaYatsyk 16 часов назад

      no, based on the games, it definitely does not look like the current cards

    • @VovaYatsyk
      @VovaYatsyk 16 часов назад

      it looks like two premodern decks

  • @Jack-cx8nl
    @Jack-cx8nl 6 часов назад

    Mengu i showed your elephant to my psychiatrist and he would like to have a talk

  • @RekiemStyle
    @RekiemStyle 12 часов назад +1

    el DR MENGUECHE

  • @dondariohabibi5118
    @dondariohabibi5118 День назад +1

    Gg ♥️

  • @nthnthms1212
    @nthnthms1212 День назад +1

    Tommy elephant was better.

  • @jackcarsen6247
    @jackcarsen6247 День назад

    Wait what dreadnought is 200€ i figured it would be cheap.

    • @jackcarsen6247
      @jackcarsen6247 День назад

      Ok it's not 200€ but it's def expensive

    • @estelaplateada4
      @estelaplateada4 День назад +1

      it's on the reserved list, and sees play in legacy

    • @jackcarsen6247
      @jackcarsen6247 День назад

      @@estelaplateada4 ohhhhh I didn't know it was on the reserved list that makes sense

  • @bariltrailette
    @bariltrailette 11 часов назад +1

    We can't choose both are realy ugly poor elephant 🐘 why you destroy that animal?