Do Photographers NEED “Traditional” Resumes?
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- Опубликовано: 1 июл 2018
- So the question is, do photographers need traditional resumes? My answer is simple, NO. This is a critique of a photographers resume used with permission.
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Kenwheelersconscience You're a troll... Please use your own name.
I'm glad you made this video. currently I'm in the process of writing up my resume after a few years of not needing to update it. At this point I don't NEED a job but having a job I WANT is critical. Making a resume tailored to what I want to do instead of trying to get a job that just pays the bills is most important and seeing this really helped in crafting my resume; Not just in photography but in life.
99% of the companies out there will throw out any resume that has a picture on it. By accepting a resume with a picture on it, the company opens themselves up to lawsuits based on image prejudice I owned a recruiting firm before my photography company and my clients (many in creative industries) would not accept resumes with a picture on it due to potential legal problems. Being creative is fine, and actually appreciated but you have to have verifiable metrics... If I may steal you word for a second, this resume is "shit" and should be tossed.
good points but, I guess that's why i've never worked for anyone, I don't fit the mold.
In Europe is a norm to include your picture on the CV.
Yup, South America as well. But here, in the US, it's a fast track to the shredder.
Yes, I work for a U.S. firm that opened offices in Europe and was surprised to see a photo of the job applicants on every resume.
@freerider this is not how the world works - especially the united states. We have anti-discrimination laws set in place. If someone found out they turned down an applicant for an interview based on their resume because they are black, then they will be sued. For smaller companies, they cannot afford a lawsuit.
Jared I love your sense of humor. You make the videos interesting to watch. You have a different style. And I like it
This was really interesting and helpful! Would absolutely enjoy more videos related to the business side of things from you!
Great video, I'm retired now and looking into photography as a hobby/business at some point . Now I know what I need to do. Thanks.
That first cv look like a d&d character sheet. He need some fire resistance ring and couple of + dexterity potions.
Absolutely agree. It's different in the creative world. They really don't care what your degrees are or anything else except what you can actually do. That's what you have to show them with examples of your work.
Being a photographer, videographer, writer, web development and designer, and social media person during college and having a ton of experience is what got me my current job.
I'm thoroughly enjoying be able to do a bit of everything pretty well.
Gidday Jared. I just wanted to say I have been a huge fan for the longest time. I heard you in the recent Gary Vee book and it reminded me to drop by and thank you for all your hard work. Your an inspiration to all us no-fro-photogs! Keep going
Thank you again, Jared. Your input and info are very helpful thank you! High Five!
Would like to hear more about getting some freelance work as well!
Hey, could you make an updated version to this please! a lot can change in 2 years
I'd put an apostrophe after "photography" in the third line of his description. Phew, glad I got that off my chest. You're welcome Konnor.
Nice review and very interesting to see your thoughts on this resume.
I enjoyed this video and have shared it with some 18 year olds that I know who are developing resumes as it raises the issues that are important in resumes and who you are targeting to get a job. The picture thing is cultural and does vary from country to country and employer to employer. A video resume is becoming more and more important and some companies I haver recently applied for jobs with, will ask for one to be submitted as part of the selection process. Linkedin - is an important resource and will quite often offer a free full membership for a month or whatever. Being able to show that you fit into the culture of a company is more important than ever, companies are leaner and meaner than ever and having multiple skills applicable to that company is more important than ever. and Yes if you are creative show your creativity in your resume. Lastly most resumes will be run through some sort of software now and used to fill out the job application form, so making your resume software friendly, is important it saves time in filling out forms.
Hey Jared!
Awesome to finally see the video! I appreciate the critique and criticism, I very much am in the same camp as in the resume for a photographer is a weird gray area where companies want to see them but what they really care about is your portfolio. Recently I applied for and got my foot in the door at a creative company in Philadelphia and one thing they said was that my resume got their attention which then lead to me going in person to show my portfolio, and THAT is what got me the job!
In the end I loved that you saw my resume and thought it could make a cool video (which I think it did!) And I did take a lot of what you said and made changes, so I do appreciate this!
(Oh also it's "DUR-ANN-TAY") but it's ok cause no one gets it right 😅
KonnorwithaKay congrats buddy. I liked your resume, reminded me of selecting characters in games
Artist Resume/CV is a total reality for grant applications and are instrumental for photographers receiving funding. Magnum photographers usually work two days of their week applying for things and the Artist CV in the vein of the tradition CV is what is used.
I wouldn’t place a photo of myself on a resume, but I might place a photograph that may be appealing to the place I’m applying to, and related to the position. They will see what i look like at the interview.I haven’t put a resume together in a while. The last one I did was a folded brochure. Yes there was traditional stuff in it, but it kept it short and was completely different than a piece of white paper with colors and borders. The place that hired me did that because it was different and stood out. No, it wasn’t in the photography field but still a job that paid bills.
Great Review Jared, resume's have made a complete 180 degree from just 10 years ago.
Listen to his FroKnowsPhoto Photography Podcast. He talks a bit more about his application to Best Buy and his "Professor" back in college. He talked about this video there first before shooting it.
Thanks guys
Thank you for this new perspective on resumes
Thanks for the video inspiring.
.. amazing exactly what I needed
Thanks Jared
I'm a photographer who can teach. I got hired as a school teacher but they found out about my photography side job and now they hire me for games and school events while also keeping me as a regular teacher. Lifes good.
This is one of the most valuable things I've seen.
Is there a chance i can have a template for this resume?
Would imagery best be placed at the bottom of a pdf resume to avoid getting kicked out of Applicant Tracking Scaning software?
Thank you.
Need to include keywords to make it past the computer algorithms. But it might not mean anything in a small business or giving the resume personally.
That resume would be thrown out immediately... It is plain awful.
1. Never ever put your picture on your resume
2. Skill "bars" say nothing about your skills. You have 100% in communication? Relative to what? It means nothing, get rid of it.
That being said, if you want to show how you are good at leadership then just write down what makes you a good leader! If you have great communication skills, what makes you a great communicator and do you have the experience to back it up?
Good points. I think I said something along the lines of what do these numbers even mean.
You won't get a job in Europe. It's standard there for applicants to put their picture on their resumes.
Agree, totally. Never seen a resume like this before. The bar graph is definitely not showcasing his best assets, in fact it kind of hurts to look at because it brings up more questions, mostly with a negative aspect than positive. Always best to leave off a photo and the "younger" bit, especially from an employer perspective and nondiscriminatory standpoint, it can set for a strange situation for the applicant based on hiring practices. And being younger is not a skill and sets a bad tone for what he means by mentioning that.
The beginning paragraph is super weak and very subjective, shows passivity in "he hopes to show" (would be better served on a cover page and reworded into something more concrete) and "full editorial spread" would be better if quantified into full page spread or double/two page. Interests are subjective and if highlighting being a photographer as a job, doesn't really belong in the hobby/interest section as well- best to save that section for more relational/personality/hobby type stuff wanting prospects to know about you and would be better to quantify years in the business of photography. Also better to highlight additional language skills instead of travel. If really wanting to put travel can be highlighted by putting company/assignment, country, and length of time to enhance willingness/flexibility to travel for assignments. And change connect to social media or something, "connect" is not professional. Kudos for being brave in showing us though!
@mavfan1 Okay, you're talking about two different continents here with different laws and regulations. Jared lives in Philly, in the United States.
I couldn't find your link to your podcast again, so I'm commenting here. It was the first podcast I've listened to as I'm a bit old school I guess. I liked a lot of what you had to say. I am relearning photography since my youthful classes were in 35mm using Canon/Pentax. Naturally, that is what I purchased digitally. Come to find, neither are cool anymore. I don't really care. I'm not really any good, and having a Sony, Fuji, or Nikon is not going to change that. So I hope to get better using the stuff in which I've already invested. Love your work. I do have one question you hit upon in regards to ISO. Are you able to recommend a "safe zone" for a newer aps-c body (I have Canon 77D). I've read that 1600 is it, but I'd like to be able to comfortably stretch that and I really value your input. Thank-you so much for sharing your knowledge and doing what you do everyday. You have my vote on spending time on subjects you're passionate about vs gear I may never be able or probably shouldn't ever buy.
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Hi Jared. I would like to ask you for a new challenge: Please do shooting with Olympus OMD-EM5 MK2, and tell your opinion. Please do it with kit lens 14-150 mk2, and please do it somewhere like a pizza place you've done once. Thank you ;)
Great Review
What about a website resume with all the examples of work and more visual way?
sheesh Jared with no Fro thought I'd never see the day
I just think its kind of crazy that we need to be creating a new resume for every employer we are Appling for. I understand it is necessary, but when I need to put out more than 50 apps just to be seen, its exhausting and a lot of work.
"Resumes suck" could not agree with these two words more!
How do you sort through 500 applicants for a job?
Lots of great points but as a former business owner (I retired at 50 and now I'm a man of leisure) I have to mention I have/had zero time for any form of unsolicited advertising so anything that looks remotely like advertising goes straight into the bin. I love your channel and value your opinions but I'm afraid your college resume would have held my attention for about 0.3 of a second. However I always read and replied to resumes even if I wasn't hiring as I remember all to well what it was like when I was trying to get started and how valuable any response was.
Like that bit about giving feedback whether or not you're hiring someone. Though I've never applied for a job I've always felt if for my friends who did who had to be waiting in limbo not knowing if they're hired or not.
Nice ❤❤❤❤
In the UK it's called a CV,. Typically a personnel mnager won't spend more than a few seconds looking at each one. So there is no point going into a lot of detail.
should a resume be one one page?
Have you ever captured a ghost....p.s. than you for all the advice you given us through all your vidoes
Nice t shirt
Wow Resumes seem to be very different in America.
"that the GUY in front of thE CLASS ..". xD
They will roundfile anything they can’t understand or read.
No headshots / pictures, unless you’re a model and they are asking for headshots. You want your first impression of you to be in an interview.
I don’t understand the chart what it is based on? Chart may seem like a good idea here but I would just address those qualities in bullets or paragraph. My chart would be 100 % on all points so you’re a failure because you don’t have 100%.
I like the skills / tools based chart of the resume. You need a key though, at least let me know what skills you have and how much experience you have with these tools. Are you an Expert with at least 10,000 hours with these tools? Novice, proficient or competent? So, if you give me a chart and say novice at left end expert at other end I would get it.
Thumbs up on some colors in resumes keep it simple without going overboard. Creative resumes are a great way to stand out but make sure your reader gets it right away they shouldn’t have to figure it out. They may have to go through a stack of resumes and will not spend anytime figuring out your puzzle of a resume.
Do vloggers?
All those numbers are crap at the top, they are made up and backed up by what? Even is you are are going to a "creative" job you still need to provide the basics and a "basic" resume is not that bad. Especially since someone like me has to go through dozens of resumes. Facts are what matter when you are trying to get a job, the rest is garbage. So disagree with you on this one, but that is OK. :-)
no
Interesting that you put an arrogant one worded comment on this video and on all of your uploads you have disabled the option for people to comment. hmmmmm.
drubber007 i answered the question. no they don't need traditional resumes. don't interpret it as arrogant. it is not.
You could have elaborated....given your reasons. What use is 'no' to anybody reading your comment? If you're not going to add a constructive comment that is no use to anybody other than yourself, then don't bother. Also, liking your own comment is pretty sad.
drubber007 i didn't like my own comment. don't asume things. reasons why i didn't elaborate: i'm lazy and sleeping on the couch. leave me alone. good night.
Typo on the resume. It's "today's industry." Typos are a big problem on a resume. They show that you don't have attention to detail.
Yo Blake, I'm a skateboard filmer hmu lol
The resume is just the paper the link to the website sits on. That resume looks like he's trying to be a baker
I think this is a pretty easy, no.
Not a "traditional" job, no need for a traditional resume.
The speaking in the 3rd person drives me nuts.
Resumes, in general, suck.
Great job, Jared! Thanks for the vid. Btw, with some of your expressions, you sound like you’re a fan of Last Week Tonight with John Oliver.