Can’t believe my luck just found one at my local dealer that someone ordered a year ago and they got tired of waiting, it just arrived and I bought it! Exact specs and color I’d been wanting!! Thank you Jesus!!
Heads up on ordering one of these. I ordered 1 in May 2023 . I was informed it was issued a Vin # and scheduled build date start on September 23 . 2 days ago my sales rep called me and said all Transit trail orders were canceled. If I reorder, it would be another 6 months best case. Price maybe increased by $1500. There will be changes from the 2023 but they don't know what those will be yet. I declined to reorder. Good luck.
Great to see some content on the Transit Trail - thanks! So... would you buy a Trail or put the $11k into tire/wheel/suspension upgrades on a standard AWD model?
Def do the standard route for me. $11K goes a LONG way towards the most appropriate setup for my needs/wants… the cosmetic stuff has no draw for me, and the suspension add-ons seem kinda average-at least in my opinion. But it’s great that Ford jumped into the game!
Do a video on what it would take to convert a Transit Passenger Van into a Transit Passenger Trail…. List the parts, the cost, and if it’s a diy or better to have a shop do it…
We really don't work on Passenger vans, but you can absolutely add a lift kit from Van Compass or Transit Off Road, or Quigly to a passenger van to get better ground clearance and handling.
Good information, but you didn't answer the $11K question. Also no mention of the electrical package that is supposably ready for up-fitters such as yourself house power systems. Is it really going to be plug-and-play? No worries, I'll be patient and wait to see how you build out the Trail.
You get the upgraded eco boost engine, and lift and side and rear windows and flares and cool wheels and spinning seats and large display and grill and HID lights and running boards and other stuff all included in the 12 grand cost. All the idiots commenting have never looked closely at what all is included in the package. I just got my VIN and set to be built in mid Jan 2024.
From the video heading 'Is it worth $11k Extra', I assume that to make the same changes to a normal Ford Transit AWD will cost $11,000? From the video, it sounds as if the non-factory changes are actually the better option. What do you recommend?
Those aftermarket suspension systems can be pretty pricey, and aren't going to be covered under factory warranty. Best thing to do would be to contact the aftermarket companies and ask how much their components are, and how much it costs to fab new shock mounts and relocation brackets. They're not plug n play in that regard.
Thank you for sharing the van in a video as to promote your beautiful van builds. Plus still waiting to see when you get your toilets available for purchase as I kinda held off my final design of my van until then. Thanks
If you ad up all the options separately and compare to the Trail, it’s a deal. Problem is you can’t get things like 10 way seats so my current configuration is all the trail pieces as options and aftermarket lift
Wow,, You are paying 11k$ for 2 inch lift and 2 inch extra wide set up. Wider track from ground up is different from just putting after market wheel spacers for more rubust performance but how many of us goes to real off roading with this thing? This factory lift is not even come with premium shocks and spring. The Ford is being criticised for outrageous dealer mark up and now the company jacked up MSRP 20%. Some people will pay for nice trim but it's disgusting how Ford is ripping off customers. Considering it's a factory warranty upgrade $6500 should be max. Shame Ford. $11k will be for nice set of wheels/tires and lift upgrade with premium shocks.
Just take it to Weldtec and get a much more complete setup for about the same $11k; but with higher lift, better wheels, premium off road suspension. Best thing you could do is simply do own research and get the better service/product.
After reviewing all the ads to the dash electronics upgrades, electric heated mirrors, big hp engine, 5 drive modes, cameras, sync, etc the list goes on. A lot of options you can’t even order on a basic transit. Well worth 11k
My dealership is asking $78k but they can’t sell it because they say it’s on recall from Ford . They said the wiring to the cameras can black out and the parts on back order. Have you heard this ?
Yes we have. There are a bunch of Transits that are waiting on the camera fix. We have a few that have the recall on them. Waiting for parts. Others are stuck at the factory and won't get shipped until they get fixed. It's a bummer. The 360 camera view will intermittently not show part of the view.
It's a big bummer that they don't offer this in a crew setup for us weekend warrior moto guys. I ended up with an AWD Mercedes crew since Ford discontinued the crew vans.
What is going on at Ford??? The trail is nearly impossible to find and when you find one the dealer marks it up well above MSRP. Same goes for all Transits except the electric van which sits on the lots.
The one option at $640? is dual ALTERNATORS, not just dual batteries. Having a dedicated alternator to charge non-starter, house lithium batteries WOW. 200amp or so charging. 30 mins on the road > 6-8 hours of solar in rainy Portland.
Question: I just got an email from Ford MoCo let me know that my wife’s 14 passenger AWD loaded Mid Roof is set to ship 11-26-2023… I want to convert it to look like the Transit Trail if it’s possible without any major non bolt on steps… does anyone know if this has been done yet?
VanDoIt converts passenger vans to Transit Trails. I spoke with them about building out my Trail and they said if I did not have my vehicle yet they could get me a passenger van and make it into a Trail. This of course involves them doing the complete van build, but it is doable.
Morning Brandon ... still want to get up there to met you & talk about a build design! I am off work Wednesday thru Sunday this week, but I know it is hard to meet up for you this week due to Thanksgiving. This Transit Trail looks interesting but would want to talk with you 1st! Pat
Love it but i caint afford it. I currently own a 2018 Nissan Pro 4X. 4X4 truck. Not sure wich way i will go but i think i will go with a pull around type camper so i can have a place for my bike and tools. Like a toyhauler type with the bed, kitchen up front and back cargo area with flip up couches. Drop tail gate/screen porch
You HOPE & DREAM it's gonna be solid, coming from Ford factory. But only time will tell, as Ford has fudged up many things over the years, and pretended they weren't a problem. Remember the dual-clutch transmission? Class-action lawsuit. Good luck!
3.5” overall lift. That includes a 2” body lift, and the larger tires to get you 3.5” higher than a stock AWD. The body lift does just that. It lifts the body and keeps drive train etc at stock height. Bigger tires are what get you any additional height over stock.
Excited to get mine once it's backup camera recall is complete! I'm planning on putting a raptor style grill on mine and would love to see if any of the options fit the stock three marker lights or if aftermarket grills with the lights are plug and play.
Considering the long wheelbase of these types of vans, there's not enough clearance. That's why the offroad shops lift them higher. That front skid plate doesn't improve your clearance. It just helps prevent damage because this thing doesn't have enough clearance. I'm trying to be as objective as possible ... but the $11K upgrade is a total rip-off. For less than half that price, you could get that thing way more capable for offroading.
I would definitely put my money into aftermarket suspension with a real off-road shop instead of Ford gimmick. A real off-road shop, like say Agile Offroad, is going to be way more in tune and helpful. Ford should've put their effort into a longer passenger CV shaft IMO.
$11k plus whatever ridiculous “market adjustment” Ford slaps on it. Was quoted a $15k markup above sticker by a dealer here in MN. I literally busted out laughing at the clown.
Thanks for the nice walkthrough of this new Trail! It looks like that driver’s side running board is quite long. Do think you’ll still be able to fit a standard side ladder on the drivers side with that thing on there?
Ok thanks. Yes please let me know if it works when you get to that part next week. I have a trail on order and am hoping to put a FVC rack and side ladder on it, but have been worried about the ladder bottom brackets working with that long side step. If you guys fab some sort of bracket extension to make it work I’d certainly be interested in buying one (as I’m sure others would too)
Omfg! What a rip off. No. No it’s not worth it. For comparison sake on pricing, not capability, you can get the Xtreme recon package on the Jeep Wrangler for 4k. And that is absolutely worth it. This Ford trail package feels like it should be a 2-3k option.
So when will SOMEBODY make a spare tank that goes in the spare tire spot? The Sprinter Store promised one but it never happened. 31 gallons just isn't enough and the 34 spare tire spot with the base 31 gallons would be fantastic for a usable 60 gallons- that's an adventure rig that would crap on the Sprinter 2.0 liter Hi-output motor. But I'd buy the Sprinter for the diesel capacity as 47 gallons to 60 gallons beats 31 gallons. How about it Ford? Give us a realistic gasoline capacity and watch sales soar. All Transit owners I've talked to want more gasoline and Sorinter folks I've talked with specifically blew the Transit deal up due to fuel limitations.
I’d love an extended range tank or additional tank solution too. I carry a RotoPax or 2 for extra fuel on trips, but having an additional 20-30 gallons of fuel would be huge.
@@gonemobilevans It astounds me they haven't done it. Storyteller stopped their Transit model. Maybe due to lack of fuel issues? And I love the Transit power delivery.
I wasn't aware OEM Ford products had a bad reputation? Sorry if that's been your experience. For me, (and I am not a DIY guy), the Ford warranty coupled with their 3000 dealer network in the USA is a HUGE consideration. Say you're a thousand miles from home and you have a problem... are you going to look for the after-market crew that outfitted your van? Or would you rather drive half an hour to the nearest Ford garage? That's how I look at it. But I'm willing to be educated by others with more experience.
Can’t believe my luck just found one at my local dealer that someone ordered a year ago and they got tired of waiting, it just arrived and I bought it! Exact specs and color I’d been wanting!! Thank you Jesus!!
Very nice!
Congrats!
Don’t mind my jealousy. I can’t find one anywhere.
Dang
Thank you for the first thorough review of the Trail suspension setup! 💙
Heads up on ordering one of these. I ordered 1 in May 2023 . I was informed it was issued a Vin # and scheduled build date start on September 23 . 2 days ago my sales rep called me and said all Transit trail orders were canceled. If I reorder, it would be another 6 months best case. Price maybe increased by $1500. There will be changes from the 2023 but they don't know what those will be yet. I declined to reorder. Good luck.
This is why I gave up on even wanting the Transit. Getting one is like pulling teeth. I gave up
sounds like you were fxxxed by your sales/dealer.
That’s some BS. Wonder if that’s tied into the UAW strike
Great to see some content on the Transit Trail - thanks! So... would you buy a Trail or put the $11k into tire/wheel/suspension upgrades on a standard AWD model?
Def do the standard route for me. $11K goes a LONG way towards the most appropriate setup for my needs/wants… the cosmetic stuff has no draw for me, and the suspension add-ons seem kinda average-at least in my opinion. But it’s great that Ford jumped into the game!
The trail package includes a lot more than the lift. The turbo motor and wheels alone are worth 4 grand
The tremor package on a super duty ain't even 11k, HOLY
Standard is much better option
Do a video on what it would take to convert a Transit Passenger Van into a Transit Passenger Trail…. List the parts, the cost, and if it’s a diy or better to have a shop do it…
I so agree with you too bad it won't be a little longer I would raise the van up a little higher two
They didn’t even answer the question in the title of the video. do you really think these people will actually listen to your comment?
Just take a transit to Quadvan
We really don't work on Passenger vans, but you can absolutely add a lift kit from Van Compass or Transit Off Road, or Quigly to a passenger van to get better ground clearance and handling.
Good information, but you didn't answer the $11K question. Also no mention of the electrical package that is supposably ready for up-fitters such as yourself house power systems. Is it really going to be plug-and-play? No worries, I'll be patient and wait to see how you build out the Trail.
11k for this package for a few thousand dollars in parts and labor....
The answer is "no"...which is why it wasn't answered. Just lookup the problems and recalls on it.
You get the upgraded eco boost engine, and lift and side and rear windows and flares and cool wheels and spinning seats and large display and grill and HID lights and running boards and other stuff all included in the 12 grand cost. All the idiots commenting have never looked closely at what all is included in the package. I just got my VIN and set to be built in mid Jan 2024.
What dealer?
I ordered my new transit from Newberg Ford in Oregon. Casey is my fleet sales guy. The build blend date is 1/15/24
Ecoboost is a seperate 2,500$ upgrade
From the video heading 'Is it worth $11k Extra', I assume that to make the same changes to a normal Ford Transit AWD will cost $11,000? From the video, it sounds as if the non-factory changes are actually the better option. What do you recommend?
Those aftermarket suspension systems can be pretty pricey, and aren't going to be covered under factory warranty. Best thing to do would be to contact the aftermarket companies and ask how much their components are, and how much it costs to fab new shock mounts and relocation brackets. They're not plug n play in that regard.
Cost me $3500 for the VC lift front and back at Agile, BFG KO2's $1000, $60 for the raised rear shock mounts (essential)
Explain that logic to the tools who buy premade campers for a $50k premium when they only have $10k of mods added 🤦♂️
Dang!!! Beautiful van for sure, I drive the 2015 Transit but surely this 2023 Transit Trail is something I would love to upgrade to❤❤❤❤
Thank you for sharing the van in a video as to promote your beautiful van builds. Plus still waiting to see when you get your toilets available for purchase as I kinda held off my final design of my van until then. Thanks
Mine was built Nov 3 and waiting to get the lift at the contractor. Nice video
Thank you!
This would be a dream vehicle for us. Thanks for sharing all the off-roading details!
If you ad up all the options separately and compare to the Trail, it’s a deal. Problem is you can’t get things like 10 way seats so my current configuration is all the trail pieces as options and aftermarket lift
Also no DRW for the Trail.
What was the recall for the Trail models? Did they fix it?
Misleading video title. 100% not worth 11k extra I mean where the heck is the factory roof fan that was in the marketing videos?
You have to pay extra for that, unfortunately.
Wow,, You are paying 11k$ for 2 inch lift and 2 inch extra wide set up. Wider track from ground up is different from just putting after market wheel spacers for more rubust performance but how many of us goes to real off roading with this thing? This factory lift is not even come with premium shocks and spring. The Ford is being criticised for outrageous dealer mark up and now the company jacked up MSRP 20%. Some people will pay for nice trim but it's disgusting how Ford is ripping off customers. Considering it's a factory warranty upgrade $6500 should be max. Shame Ford. $11k will be for nice set of wheels/tires and lift upgrade with premium shocks.
Just take it to Weldtec and get a much more complete setup for about the same $11k; but with higher lift, better wheels, premium off road suspension. Best thing you could do is simply do own research and get the better service/product.
I think the trail package includes other upgrades beyond what you mentioned.
Unique Trail Badge - no extra charge
After reviewing all the ads to the dash electronics upgrades, electric heated mirrors, big hp engine, 5 drive modes, cameras, sync, etc the list goes on. A lot of options you can’t even order on a basic transit. Well worth 11k
@@maxattraction1- effectively every one of those options can be ordered on the regular transit. The lift and wider stance is about it.
My dealership is asking $78k but they can’t sell it because they say it’s on recall from Ford . They said the wiring to the cameras can black out and the parts on back order. Have you heard this ?
Yes we have. There are a bunch of Transits that are waiting on the camera fix. We have a few that have the recall on them. Waiting for parts. Others are stuck at the factory and won't get shipped until they get fixed. It's a bummer. The 360 camera view will intermittently not show part of the view.
Don't you sell it in South Korea?
There are no 4x4 camping cars in Korea. Please make sure to export it to Korea as well.
It's a big bummer that they don't offer this in a crew setup for us weekend warrior moto guys. I ended up with an AWD Mercedes crew since Ford discontinued the crew vans.
Great video - lot of facts - with intermixed opinions and no rambling.
thank you for posting.
What is going on at Ford??? The trail is nearly impossible to find and when you find one the dealer marks it up well above MSRP. Same goes for all Transits except the electric van which sits on the lots.
I liked your video. Not sure you answered the question: "Is it worth $11k Extra"?
The one option at $640? is dual ALTERNATORS, not just dual batteries. Having a dedicated alternator to charge non-starter, house lithium batteries WOW. 200amp or so charging. 30 mins on the road > 6-8 hours of solar in rainy Portland.
Where is the $11k? I see about a grand, I guess Ford wanted another $10k in profit
Add an aftermarket kit and tell us if you can do it for less than a grand. We'll all be waiting with bated breath.
So it’s just a body lift
Ford should offer their version of a camper van as well as this base bones version.
Question: I just got an email from Ford MoCo let me know that my wife’s 14 passenger AWD loaded Mid Roof is set to ship 11-26-2023… I want to convert it to look like the Transit Trail if it’s possible without any major non bolt on steps… does anyone know if this has been done yet?
VanDoIt converts passenger vans to Transit Trails. I spoke with them about building out my Trail and they said if I did not have my vehicle yet they could get me a passenger van and make it into a Trail. This of course involves them doing the complete van build, but it is doable.
So beautiful ❤❤
Morning Brandon ... still want to get up there to met you & talk about a build design! I am off work Wednesday thru Sunday this week, but I know it is hard to meet up for you this week due to Thanksgiving. This Transit Trail looks interesting but would want to talk with you 1st!
Pat
Hi Pat! Yes, this week will be tough with the holiday. Any time after next week is great!
Thank you will do some business down the road
Awesome!
does it have 3.5 tonne variant for europe? her we only have manual transmission with awd
So the Trail comes standard with lift kit fitted but NOT upgraded suspension?
Absolutely worth it. These will hold their resale mich more than a moded stock tranist
Nah.
Love it but i caint afford it.
I currently own a 2018 Nissan Pro 4X. 4X4 truck.
Not sure wich way i will go but i think i will go with a pull around type camper so i can have a place for my bike and tools.
Like a toyhauler type with the bed, kitchen up front and back cargo area with flip up couches. Drop tail gate/screen porch
You HOPE & DREAM it's gonna be solid, coming from Ford factory. But only time will tell, as Ford has fudged up many things over the years, and pretended they weren't a problem. Remember the dual-clutch transmission? Class-action lawsuit. Good luck!
How much for this featured Van.? Whats the build time ? Thanks
Does the Trail come standard with side curtain airbags in cargo area? can you opt NOT to have it?
Ford Spec sheet says "3.5" Body Lift with improved ground clearance". Where are you getting 2" lift with no added ground clearance?
3.5” overall lift. That includes a 2” body lift, and the larger tires to get you 3.5” higher than a stock AWD. The body lift does just that. It lifts the body and keeps drive train etc at stock height. Bigger tires are what get you any additional height over stock.
Any heated seat options Can you mount a removable seat?
Excited to get mine once it's backup camera recall is complete! I'm planning on putting a raptor style grill on mine and would love to see if any of the options fit the stock three marker lights or if aftermarket grills with the lights are plug and play.
Right there with you on the recall. How long are they telling you? I was told late December
Yes the answer is yea. Most bad asss van money can buy. Beats the Mercedes easy.
Damn that is very nice. I like it!
How much to upfit this van?
Considering the long wheelbase of these types of vans, there's not enough clearance. That's why the offroad shops lift them higher. That front skid plate doesn't improve your clearance. It just helps prevent damage because this thing doesn't have enough clearance. I'm trying to be as objective as possible ... but the $11K upgrade is a total rip-off. For less than half that price, you could get that thing way more capable for offroading.
I would definitely put my money into aftermarket suspension with a real off-road shop instead of Ford gimmick. A real off-road shop, like say Agile Offroad, is going to be way more in tune and helpful. Ford should've put their effort into a longer passenger CV shaft IMO.
$11k plus whatever ridiculous “market adjustment” Ford slaps on it. Was quoted a $15k markup above sticker by a dealer here in MN. I literally busted out laughing at the clown.
Yep. These dealers are shameless crooks. I will never pay Mark up prices.
FORD does not add market adjustment. Solely the greedy dealers do that.
Yeah but Ford stays quiet on the matter of dealer markups.@@jimmyaber5920
$11k and you still need to get skid plates and shocks?
Where is this listed on the Ford website?
Thanks for the nice walkthrough of this new Trail! It looks like that driver’s side running board is quite long. Do think you’ll still be able to fit a standard side ladder on the drivers side with that thing on there?
Great question! We will find out next week when we install the roof rack and ladder. Quite possibly that it won't now that I think about it.
Ok thanks. Yes please let me know if it works when you get to that part next week. I have a trail on order and am hoping to put a FVC rack and side ladder on it, but have been worried about the ladder bottom brackets working with that long side step. If you guys fab some sort of bracket extension to make it work I’d certainly be interested in buying one (as I’m sure others would too)
Any luck outfitting a side ladder to this Transit Trail?
Not yet. We needed to install the Flares first so we haven’t tackled the ladder yet. I’m afraid cutting and welding will be the solution though
what is best way to order the black hid headlights? do you have a preferred website or do you call a ford dealer?
How much can it tow if it’s fitted as a camper?
Wonder if this will be available in Canada
nice overview but you completely avoided answering the question. but judging from the comments it appears to be a rip-off.
Do you know what kind of MPG this van gets?
I can’t figure out if this beauty is coming to Europe or not. Anyone knows?
no upgraded brakes?
Omfg! What a rip off. No. No it’s not worth it. For comparison sake on pricing, not capability, you can get the Xtreme recon package on the Jeep Wrangler for 4k. And that is absolutely worth it. This Ford trail package feels like it should be a 2-3k option.
Lol, and you're still left with a Jeep at the end of the day. Been there,done that. Fool me once....
@@sneakybow1 you missed my point
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speed limiter?
Does it have adjusted speedometer and gearing for the taller tires?
My understanding is that yes, they did adjust the speedo to account for the larger tires. Gearing has not changed.
Thank you for this. Question, does this require 91 octane fuel? (general Q for Transits)
I run my own van on 87 most of the time. Seems just fine!
What’s the wheel arch trims
Those are specific to the Transit Trail package from Ford. Currently not available to just purchase
Fantastic van. Should be made as EV.
How to find one??
So when will SOMEBODY make a spare tank that goes in the spare tire spot? The Sprinter Store promised one but it never happened. 31 gallons just isn't enough and the 34 spare tire spot with the base 31 gallons would be fantastic for a usable 60 gallons- that's an adventure rig that would crap on the Sprinter 2.0 liter Hi-output motor.
But I'd buy the Sprinter for the diesel capacity as 47 gallons to 60 gallons beats 31 gallons.
How about it Ford? Give us a realistic gasoline capacity and watch sales soar. All Transit owners I've talked to want more gasoline and Sorinter folks I've talked with specifically blew the Transit deal up due to fuel limitations.
I’d love an extended range tank or additional tank solution too. I carry a RotoPax or 2 for extra fuel on trips, but having an additional 20-30 gallons of fuel would be huge.
@@gonemobilevans
It astounds me they haven't done it. Storyteller stopped their Transit model. Maybe due to lack of fuel issues? And I love the Transit power delivery.
@@robertlibby9716 My understanding with STO is that lack of Transit chassis was why they haven’t yet offered a 2024 Mode LT. but who knows
@@gonemobilevans
Makes sense.
Is it available with a dual battery and a dual alternator?
Yes. Dual battery and dual alternator is standard with the Trail package
Who makes the running boards.
Ford does. Those are stock on the Transit Trail.
I've been to two dealerships and neither one could find the running boards in the computer ???
I want to add the running boards to my stock transit. Ford says they can't get them
How much is a Quigley 4x4 conversion?
They used to be in the $15K range for the conversion. Not sure now though.
What color is this?
Abyss Grey
No video -screen is black
never heard of it
people will pay regardless of the price difference
Those people are not smart
@@Transit_my-way those people don't care.
I wouldn't take these things on anything more than a groomed forest service road.
They are way more capable than you give them credit for.
No not worth it. A Cargo with options is much better.
Stopped watching at "ECO_BOOST ENGINE" Absolute garbage, designed to fail....
10 speed gear box?.... crap.. always hunting for gears
Not been my experience. It's a great combo with the Ecoboost engine.
I think I could do a lot better job upgrading it myself with the $11,000.
"You know it's going to be solid because it comes from ford and the factory"
Said nobody EVER! Until this guy said it. 🫡🤣
I wasn't aware OEM Ford products had a bad reputation? Sorry if that's been your experience. For me, (and I am not a DIY guy), the Ford warranty coupled with their 3000 dealer network in the USA is a HUGE consideration. Say you're a thousand miles from home and you have a problem... are you going to look for the after-market crew that outfitted your van? Or would you rather drive half an hour to the nearest Ford garage? That's how I look at it. But I'm willing to be educated by others with more experience.
How much to upfit this van?