Hi Chris. Thank you very much for all your videos. They have been a great help for me. I have a question. When I recorded my casting I saw that my wrist was breaking outwards on my backcasts and coming in to a straight position on my front casts. I believe that causes a bad tracking? The loops were also going upwards on my front casts. Is that because of the bad tracking caused by tilting the wrist outwards on my backcasts and when the hand is coming forward in to more vertical, the rod raises? Regards Jonas
I am not 100% certain what you are describing. Check out this video and see if this is what you are doing -ruclips.net/video/vTFXX2wipEE/видео.html That issue would not cause upward forward loops. Those are only caused by your stroke accelerating along and upward track going forward. If that does not show your issue, send me an email and we can discuss it.
Question, have watched several of your videos and being on the raise area you cast, would we then need a 12-14’ rod to do the same casting wading? Notice your tails are almost dipping in the water on false casts and you are several feet above the water, looks ideal but unreal? We are finding our practice lawn casting is good but than when we are wading my wife’s 8’ 4wt seems to be to short and she then just lets the back cast land which then helps her load the pole to cast, no false casting, not ideal but she is making it work. I find some of the same wading up to my waist, anything over 30’. Tight loops on not…
What you may notice is the ground significantly rises behind me. I am on a hill. I have heard this about longer rods many times and have demonstrated to people sitting on the ground casting with just a 3ft section of rod to show how it will not hit the water unless you cast down or wait too long. Extra long casts in deep water would be a challenge, I agree. You have given me an idea for another video. Subscribe and stay tuned, thanks
I think that part of the answer may very well be, that when you’re in a float tube or you’re standing in fairly deep water let’s say up to your chest, you must keep your cast parallel to the water. It’s a good idea to practice casting in all types of situations on the lawn. When I’m teaching people, I often have them do a very low back cast with a very high forward cast vice versa. I have a cast to the side so the line is only six or 8 inches off of water. FFFI MCI PS: would not suggest a 12 or 14 foot rod; even a 10 foot rod can be a little trickier for a beginning caster. I would rather have students practice with a 9 foot.
Long casts while wading waist deep is certainly a challenge. Trying to cast vertically causes the line hand to hit the water when hauling. Casting side arm helps that but brings everything down closer to the water. Timing is critical, as is leader length. Shorter heavy heads shoot farther or underlining rods using long heads can help. I mostly trout fish and find I can switch cast farther than traditional cast when wading deep. The water haul is less technical and gets the job done.
I think you are confused on what a tailing loop is - ruclips.net/video/uAqqo-dkE9w/видео.html The fly leg crossing the rod leg once is not a tailing loop. In addition, the rod is tilted toward the camera as i do not cast straight up and down and it makes the loops appear offset. Sorry you do not like my casting but it works for me
I find your videos and explanations breaking down the cast extremely helpful. Thank you.
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Hi Chris. Thank you very much for all your videos. They have been a great help for me. I have a question. When I recorded my casting I saw that my wrist was breaking outwards on my backcasts and coming in to a straight position on my front casts. I believe that causes a bad tracking? The loops were also going upwards on my front casts. Is that because of the bad tracking caused by tilting the wrist outwards on my backcasts and when the hand is coming forward in to more vertical, the rod raises?
Regards Jonas
I am not 100% certain what you are describing. Check out this video and see if this is what you are doing -ruclips.net/video/vTFXX2wipEE/видео.html That issue would not cause upward forward loops. Those are only caused by your stroke accelerating along and upward track going forward. If that does not show your issue, send me an email and we can discuss it.
Question, have watched several of your videos and being on the raise area you cast, would we then need a 12-14’ rod to do the same casting wading? Notice your tails are almost dipping in the water on false casts and you are several feet above the water, looks ideal but unreal? We are finding our practice lawn casting is good but than when we are wading my wife’s 8’ 4wt seems to be to short and she then just lets the back cast land which then helps her load the pole to cast, no false casting, not ideal but she is making it work. I find some of the same wading up to my waist, anything over 30’. Tight loops on not…
What you may notice is the ground significantly rises behind me. I am on a hill. I have heard this about longer rods many times and have demonstrated to people sitting on the ground casting with just a 3ft section of rod to show how it will not hit the water unless you cast down or wait too long. Extra long casts in deep water would be a challenge, I agree. You have given me an idea for another video. Subscribe and stay tuned, thanks
I think that part of the answer may very well be, that when you’re in a float tube or you’re standing in fairly deep water let’s say up to your chest, you must keep your cast parallel to the water. It’s a good idea to practice casting in all types of situations on the lawn. When I’m teaching people, I often have them do a very low back cast with a very high forward cast vice versa. I have a cast to the side so the line is only six or 8 inches off of water. FFFI MCI
PS: would not suggest a 12 or 14 foot rod; even a 10 foot rod can be a little trickier for a beginning caster. I would rather have students practice with a 9 foot.
Long casts while wading waist deep is certainly a challenge. Trying to cast vertically causes the line hand to hit the water when hauling. Casting side arm helps that but brings everything down closer to the water. Timing is critical, as is leader length. Shorter heavy heads shoot farther or underlining rods using long heads can help. I mostly trout fish and find I can switch cast farther than traditional cast when wading deep. The water haul is less technical and gets the job done.
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Most of your forward casts have a tailing loop.
I think you are confused on what a tailing loop is - ruclips.net/video/uAqqo-dkE9w/видео.html
The fly leg crossing the rod leg once is not a tailing loop. In addition, the rod is tilted toward the camera as i do not cast straight up and down and it makes the loops appear offset. Sorry you do not like my casting but it works for me