This was my first thought 😭 Its so funny that they have nicknames like “Tinky” and “Wiggly” and are literal ancient eldritch gods that have terrorized hatchetfield in multiple ways and have a cult surrounding them
As someone who watches video essays near constantly, you did a really good job with this! Two solid hours of recap, with a clear and detailed timeline? That takes SKILL and EFFORT that I’ve never seen from a one-upload channel before. Truly boundless praise, I’ll be sharing this with my friends who’ve watched the full series but haven’t yet “gotten” the overarching plot. (Also, love the way that some of the major lines from the musicals are enunciated a bit, I can tell you’ve watched these on repeat a good bit more than I have, lol)
Was it explained who Frank is? He's Lex's boss and the owner of Toy Zone. He allowed the chaos in the store to happen by announcing that whoever pays the most for a Wiggly doll gets one.
He's also the person who Shella targets in The nightmare time (season 2) episode (I think it's the 2nd or 3rd??) "Daddy/Killer track" Good episode for the lore of this multiverse!!!
I'm a starkid fan and have watched all their main musicals but have had a hard time keeping up with all the other stuff (not from lack of want, just busy) so this recap was super helpful! Also i did not know that each Nightmare Time story got more and more unhinged
“i shouldn’t want to read the black book” me who is currently finding everything i can about the book to make my own… i have literally sewn a book… of to worship wiggly i go
i'm on my period and i swear i almost started bawling just from you making me remember the ending halloweane and lethan got in nmt2 i love them so much why do they make me suffer like this 😭😭😭
I bawl every time I listen to lex’s letter at the end on yellow jacket. And at the ending of killer track. And at Linda’s voicemail to Gerald at the end of honey queen. Honestly thinking about it I cried at most of nmt2
This was EXACTLY what I was looking for because after watching NPMD I remembered the verse and that it had deep lore, but not what that lore was. Turns out it went waaaaaaay deeper than I originally thought! Thank you for the breakdown, it was excellent 😊
Thanks for this! I just genuinely could not get into nightmare time because of the zoom format and when I watched NPMD the other day realised I was definitely missing stuff.
this was so good!! thank you for taking the time to make this, my excitement for hatchetfield never dies but this video managed to fuel it even more!! I especially loved the way you started out with the chronological timeline and the history at the beginning, that was super helpful!
Thanks so much for this! I watched NPMD the other week and it was my first introduction to Starkid, so when i realized how much content they had, I knew I needed a lore breakdown, and you did that so well ^^
The Honey Queen thing is technically a talent show, at least in modern times (tho it mostly measures conveniental beauty, charisma and dedication to the cause)
thank you for making this it’s soooo good! i thought i new like most of the hatchetfield lore but clearly i was wrong cuz i missed a lot about the hatchetfield forest people family thing
i used this as a guideline while i was watching all the Nightmare Time videos. it was so helpful to go back and forth every time there was a new story. I even watched Hey Melissa (which i didn't know about before you mentioned it.) I also started looking forward to watching the next section of your video when i finished a Nightmare Time epsiode. Thank you so much for this gem of a video
ah, this is great for someone (me) who is now recently obsessed with the hatchtfield trilogy, but can't really get into nightmare time (love the concepts and the theme slaps I just really can get into the zoom format. Hopfully nightmare time 3 will be more palletable as from what I've heard it should be like how workin boys was filmed) also just love 2 hour long videos on my special instrest to draw to :3
i really wanted to watch nightmare time but my tiny lil audhd brain cant watch it bc of the quality/the fact its zoom, l it gets unimmersed and bored even tho i was super hyped, so tysm for this!
That’s so completely valid!! If you do want to try and watch them my advise as a fellow audhd it to treat them like audiobooks and have them on the background while doing something else!!
I watched tgwdlm a while back but only recently saw nerdy prudes must die, I’m beginning to get obsessed with the lore. Thank you for this long video explaining things I can’t wait to watch this whole thing ‼️. But I need to know please where did you get those posters behind you???
No! Because Hidgens had his vision of the apotheosis in 1988 and started prepping then (pre-timeline split) and the Waylon place is still abandoned in 2020 when NPMD takes place!
What happens to the Honey Queen is basically the same thing that happens to other beauty queens, only instead of the Witchwood and Nibbly, its Hollywood and Harvey Weinstein
Lmao While I'm listening to this I can't stop thinking about the possibilities of this starkid universe Hannah was born with great psychic powers, thats been shown multiple times. But I can't help wondering about Tim. Based off of the dynamic between Becky and Tom, and the history with Jane, I'm wondering if Tim's presence is guiding these people together, within every different timeline. It makes me wonder if Tim himself has been picked by one of the lords in black, due to that subtle ability. Perhaps we'll later be shown these possibilities in season 3
Going insane over this video actually 👀 Makes me want a fallout 4 mod themed on the eldritch Lords in black, where the world ending apocalypse happened BECAUSE of the gods playing with these Fallout universe companies
These posters were made before NMT2 so Nibbly hadn’t been around and therefore the artist hadn’t made them yet! They’ve made him now tho and I’m gonna get one soon!
The only way i could come to terms with the way hey melissa ended was by simply saying he got brain damage from the car accident and because he was melissas cat beforehand thats where his mind defaulted. Otherwise it makes me too upset if i think about it too much haha
How can the Witch Wood have survived if all the rich and powerful are part of this Church? Do they not want the magic back either? Or do they not know?
Only at the start but I have to ask... where did you get your Lords in Black posters?! I've had a search but can't fine them anywhere and they look amazing!! EDIT: Would probably help if I read the description before posting comments like this 🙃 Second Edit: Just bought them! So excited for these to come!
Did you say that Mr. Young became one of the first members of the church of the starry children? It was founded by Agatha and Mathias Waylon back in the 1800's wasn't it? The honey festival was started in 1945 time tho by the church members of that time, which included Mr. Young? Sorry I haven't watched the whole thing so maybe I'm too quick on the trigger and you mention them later, but with book being created earlier I'm sure I remember the cult going back to the Waylons? Didn't they hint that with The guy who didn't like musicals? Oh wait. They did for sure confirm that info with Nerdy Prudes must die when they talked about the Waylons I know that. Can't remember if they mentioned it at any time so possibly that info wasn't confirmed maybe before when you made this video? Anyways. It was the Waylons... who started the church. Right? Also... anyone else fascinated to find out what happened with the Ghosts of the Waylons somewhere down the line? Oh and Jane's death has been confirmed now to be not cannon across all timelines now on a stream I think? She's alive in some timelines. Homeless man Ted from time bastard MAY be a cannon event across all timelines since he went back so far to 2004, before the timeline splits. I think... pretty sure... but I wouldn't say 100% on that.
Hiya! The Waylon’s were not mentioned until NPMD so that’s why I don’t talk about them in this cos of spoilers! The honey queen pageant is said to “date back to the very foundation of the church” so the church was founded in 1945 probably. The Waylon’s did found it tho! Jane’s death may not be canon across all timelines but it has been in all of the ones we’ve seen! But the homeless man being Ted is confined to happen in every timeline!
I love that cults, sacrifices etc are on the same level of importance as Paul not liking musicals, with the latter possibly being a greater plot.
I have my priorities in order 😌
Bill honestly had a point, if deb is THAT likely to cheat she is TOXIIIIIC
I thought the same tbh, Alice deserves better
It's not clear what Alice saw was real.
You have to admit, it’s kinda sweet how Paul and Emma will always be together, even if they’re an android and a clone.
Except when Paul is a cat
And when Emma never meets Paul she opens the pot farm.
@@beefleming5439can we just pretend that never happened?
@@beefleming5439 When was Paul a cat?
@@adamdavis1648 you don't want to know
Am I the only one who thinks the Lords in Black's nicknames make them sound like evil Teletubbies?
Thanks for the recap/lore!
This was my first thought 😭 Its so funny that they have nicknames like “Tinky” and “Wiggly” and are literal ancient eldritch gods that have terrorized hatchetfield in multiple ways and have a cult surrounding them
"who else to lead a cult but a milf"
so poetic.
“[insert character] is horrified” isn’t that just Hatchetfield in a nutshell? 😂
with NPMD theres more Hatchetfield content than harry potter movies (in hours). As it should.
The autism got you real bad didn't it, I can relate.
Not me still watching this even though I literally binge-watched every single Hatchetfield piece of content over the last two days
real
SAME 😭
Mood.
As someone who watches video essays near constantly, you did a really good job with this!
Two solid hours of recap, with a clear and detailed timeline? That takes SKILL and EFFORT that I’ve never seen from a one-upload channel before.
Truly boundless praise, I’ll be sharing this with my friends who’ve watched the full series but haven’t yet “gotten” the overarching plot.
(Also, love the way that some of the major lines from the musicals are enunciated a bit, I can tell you’ve watched these on repeat a good bit more than I have, lol)
This is very sweet thank you so much!
@@AbiiMaryy You’re welcome! I look forward to any future videos from you, regardless of topic. You’ve clearly got a knack for this kind of thing.
Was it explained who Frank is? He's Lex's boss and the owner of Toy Zone. He allowed the chaos in the store to happen by announcing that whoever pays the most for a Wiggly doll gets one.
He's also the person who Shella targets in The nightmare time (season 2) episode (I think it's the 2nd or 3rd??) "Daddy/Killer track"
Good episode for the lore of this multiverse!!!
I'm a starkid fan and have watched all their main musicals but have had a hard time keeping up with all the other stuff (not from lack of want, just busy) so this recap was super helpful! Also i did not know that each Nightmare Time story got more and more unhinged
As someone who's fairly new to the fandom, I love how every show in this comedy universe ends with the end of the world.
I mean . . . we all know that's the way our world will end, so this just makes Hatchetfield more realistic
Yeah, other works had happy ends, but not hatchetfield
CCRP feels like they have SO MUCH more impact to the Starkid Lore that we're not aware of and I feel like we should talk about the implications 👀
“i shouldn’t want to read the black book” me who is currently finding everything i can about the book to make my own… i have literally sewn a book… of to worship wiggly i go
Make a RUclips tutorial about it pls!!!
i'm on my period and i swear i almost started bawling just from you making me remember the ending halloweane and lethan got in nmt2 i love them so much why do they make me suffer like this 😭😭😭
I bawl every time I listen to lex’s letter at the end on yellow jacket. And at the ending of killer track. And at Linda’s voicemail to Gerald at the end of honey queen. Honestly thinking about it I cried at most of nmt2
This was EXACTLY what I was looking for because after watching NPMD I remembered the verse and that it had deep lore, but not what that lore was. Turns out it went waaaaaaay deeper than I originally thought! Thank you for the breakdown, it was excellent 😊
Thanks for this!
I just genuinely could not get into nightmare time because of the zoom format and when I watched NPMD the other day realised I was definitely missing stuff.
That’s so fair!! My advice would be to listen to it like an audiobook while doing other things if the zoom format puts you off!!
for sure. Also it does get better quality after the first episode. (they don't have everyone on the zoom all the time.)
Ok, literally just 7 seconds into the video and I have to say
THOSE PRINTS AND THW WIGGLY DOLL BEHIND YOU SNDJSKGJSKS IM SO JEALOUS I LOVE THEM
as someone who had somehow never heard of or seen hey melissa, i am highly disturbed by this recap. im crying??????? /j
That’s the rapid fire version 😭
@@AbiiMaryydoes that mean we get a full in depth version? 👀
I want to go back in time and stop myself from from watching it I’m traumatised
Perky's Buds: Alfred Hitchcock's The Birds on Crack.
This is the real Hatchetfield short film! For real, thank you for this.
Its feature length actually 💅/j
All of this new lore is SO EXCITING to me, but especially the Hannah birth thing and the Duke’s dad thing.
this was so good!! thank you for taking the time to make this, my excitement for hatchetfield never dies but this video managed to fuel it even more!! I especially loved the way you started out with the chronological timeline and the history at the beginning, that was super helpful!
This is a god send
honestly, i just needed something to fill the silence. 10/10 would listen again
i love how you've been telling yourself off the whole video-
"mr. young married a woman named sheila.. milf.. NO."
Thanks so much for this! I watched NPMD the other week and it was my first introduction to Starkid, so when i realized how much content they had, I knew I needed a lore breakdown, and you did that so well ^^
I'll admit, I only recetly got into this series but my brain is slow and it needs info condensed into this manner, so thank you for this
The Honey Queen thing is technically a talent show, at least in modern times (tho it mostly measures conveniental beauty, charisma and dedication to the cause)
thank you for making this it’s soooo good! i thought i new like most of the hatchetfield lore but clearly i was wrong cuz i missed a lot about the hatchetfield forest people family thing
Absolutely incredible job Abbie! This was such a great recap of everything, you are truly the Hatchetfield lore master
i used this as a guideline while i was watching all the Nightmare Time videos. it was so helpful to go back and forth every time there was a new story. I even watched Hey Melissa (which i didn't know about before you mentioned it.) I also started looking forward to watching the next section of your video when i finished a Nightmare Time epsiode. Thank you so much for this gem of a video
Ahhhh that’s so wonderful to hear!! I’m glad you enjoyed it and I hope you enjoyed Nightmare Time!!
This is so helpful! Love how thorough and streamlined this is. You rock, this is great.
OMG this is so good! I love you so much I feel as though we would get along so well IRL. Incredible video!!!
Ahhh thank you so much!!
ah, this is great for someone (me) who is now recently obsessed with the hatchtfield trilogy, but can't really get into nightmare time (love the concepts and the theme slaps I just really can get into the zoom format. Hopfully nightmare time 3 will be more palletable as from what I've heard it should be like how workin boys was filmed)
also just love 2 hour long videos on my special instrest to draw to :3
My best advice is to treat NMT like an audiobook and do other things whilst you watch it!!!
@@AbiiMaryy fair, I'm just a very visual person
i really wanted to watch nightmare time but my tiny lil audhd brain cant watch it bc of the quality/the fact its zoom, l it gets unimmersed and bored even tho i was super hyped, so tysm for this!
That’s so completely valid!! If you do want to try and watch them my advise as a fellow audhd it to treat them like audiobooks and have them on the background while doing something else!!
I love the prints behind you!..is is their a nibbly one to match them!!
There isn’t and it DEVASTATES ME
@@AbiiMaryyimagine a giant mouth with a weird mishapen body of pigs and in the front stand linda Monroe with the chruch members surrounding them!!
This is exactly the kind of video I needed thank you for this
im playing emma and rehersals start next monday so im consuming as much hatchetfield content as i can thank you so much for this
Ahhh that’s so exciting!! Have the best time!
I'm running a Hatchetfield Monster of the Week game right now, and this is exactly the reference mayerial I needed 🎉🤩🥳
I watched tgwdlm a while back but only recently saw nerdy prudes must die, I’m beginning to get obsessed with the lore. Thank you for this long video explaining things I can’t wait to watch this whole thing ‼️. But I need to know please where did you get those posters behind you???
They’re from redbubble!! I put the link to the artist in the description
@@AbiiMaryy oh thank you so much
you should make an update video with npmd!! it has that really cool scene with the lords of black :3
I’m just here because I’ve spoken to you once and it was over editing beef! Hi! Love the video btw, love seeing us deranged folks out here
Ahahahah thanks for stopping by!!
@@AbiiMaryyAlways, we’re all autistic here and gather wherever there is lore. Also always there to support a weird lesbian like myself.
YOU! Take me as your lore apprentice PLEASE I've been trying to piece all this on ma own then I find this video- SO SHOW ME UR WAYS OH WISE ONE
Ahahahaah absolutely!
@@AbiiMaryy YESSSS A BOND SHALL BE FORMED!! We will begin when schdules aline and a friendship blossoms I can FEEL IT >:D
definitely gonna watch this later!!
Do you think it's possible that Hidgen's Manor and the old Waylon place are one and the same, just he bought it and renovated it? Or no?
No! Because Hidgens had his vision of the apotheosis in 1988 and started prepping then (pre-timeline split) and the Waylon place is still abandoned in 2020 when NPMD takes place!
I absolutely love the posters behind you. May I ask where you got them?
The links in the description!
@@AbiiMaryy Thanks, you're the best! (one day I will learn to read lol)
What happens to the Honey Queen is basically the same thing that happens to other beauty queens, only instead of the Witchwood and Nibbly, its Hollywood and Harvey Weinstein
Lmao While I'm listening to this I can't stop thinking about the possibilities of this starkid universe
Hannah was born with great psychic powers, thats been shown multiple times. But I can't help wondering about Tim. Based off of the dynamic between Becky and Tom, and the history with Jane, I'm wondering if Tim's presence is guiding these people together, within every different timeline.
It makes me wonder if Tim himself has been picked by one of the lords in black, due to that subtle ability. Perhaps we'll later be shown these possibilities in season 3
Going insane over this video actually 👀
Makes me want a fallout 4 mod themed on the eldritch Lords in black, where the world ending apocalypse happened BECAUSE of the gods playing with these Fallout universe companies
you know laid out like thi some of those nightmare time episodes are really insane
@@lhumyaki Oh yah! You honestly have to just trust the Lang bros because they make the most insane plots good
Can you talk about nerdy prudes must die next?
I love the posters in the back! But wheres Nibbly :'(
These posters were made before NMT2 so Nibbly hadn’t been around and therefore the artist hadn’t made them yet! They’ve made him now tho and I’m gonna get one soon!
I hope you dont mind but where can i see those posters or paintings behind you. The Lords in Black art is ❤️🔥🤧
They’re from redbubble!! The link is in the description
The only way i could come to terms with the way hey melissa ended was by simply saying he got brain damage from the car accident and because he was melissas cat beforehand thats where his mind defaulted. Otherwise it makes me too upset if i think about it too much haha
I got my very innocent girlfriend into Starkid and now she loves it
Queen webby? Nah. Abbie is the real queen.
Wait where are those posters from cuz they are so cool!
They’re from redbubble!! The link is in the description!!
i love your posters sm!!!!!!!! where did you get them?
Redbubble!! There’s a link in the description
the real cinematic event of the week
How can the Witch Wood have survived if all the rich and powerful are part of this Church? Do they not want the magic back either? Or do they not know?
@@somedudewatchintv5297 I assume they don’t know!
if you're the administrator of the starkid wiki, have you ever considered taking the wiki off-fandom, perhaps to something like miraheze?
i’ve considered it but I’m not 100% sure how to
@@AbiiMaryy does the starkid wiki have a general discord
Listen I don’t have any semblance of an attain span left for what around 18 hours of content💔 thank you
Where can I find that diagram of the timeline??
My tumblr!
Hold up! Ted is dad to peter spankoveski? *mind blown*
No he's his brother!
Why did it take RUclips 7 months to recommend this video to me??
Only at the start but I have to ask... where did you get your Lords in Black posters?! I've had a search but can't fine them anywhere and they look amazing!!
EDIT: Would probably help if I read the description before posting comments like this 🙃
Second Edit: Just bought them! So excited for these to come!
Ahaha no worries you’re not the first one!
i enjoyed watching ghis!!!!!!!
THEY MADE MERCH WHERE DO I GET MR DROWSY TOWN HIMSELF
You mean the Wiggly doll?? Or the posters? The posters are linked in the description and the Wiggly doll was a limited edition merch piece from 2020!
♥️🫶🏻♥️
abbie i love you
Did you say that Mr. Young became one of the first members of the church of the starry children? It was founded by Agatha and Mathias Waylon back in the 1800's wasn't it? The honey festival was started in 1945 time tho by the church members of that time, which included Mr. Young?
Sorry I haven't watched the whole thing so maybe I'm too quick on the trigger and you mention them later, but with book being created earlier I'm sure I remember the cult going back to the Waylons? Didn't they hint that with The guy who didn't like musicals?
Oh wait. They did for sure confirm that info with Nerdy Prudes must die when they talked about the Waylons I know that. Can't remember if they mentioned it at any time so possibly that info wasn't confirmed maybe before when you made this video?
Anyways. It was the Waylons... who started the church. Right?
Also... anyone else fascinated to find out what happened with the Ghosts of the Waylons somewhere down the line?
Oh and Jane's death has been confirmed now to be not cannon across all timelines now on a stream I think? She's alive in some timelines.
Homeless man Ted from time bastard MAY be a cannon event across all timelines since he went back so far to 2004, before the timeline splits. I think... pretty sure... but I wouldn't say 100% on that.
Hiya! The Waylon’s were not mentioned until NPMD so that’s why I don’t talk about them in this cos of spoilers! The honey queen pageant is said to “date back to the very foundation of the church” so the church was founded in 1945 probably. The Waylon’s did found it tho!
Jane’s death may not be canon across all timelines but it has been in all of the ones we’ve seen! But the homeless man being Ted is confined to happen in every timeline!
It was confirmed in the NMT talkback stream
@@AbiiMaryy Thanks so much this is helpful!
Appreciate it.
I have another question but I'll ask it in a new comment.
Nerdy prudes is the best tho
Okay, “cause I’m a lesbian” made me insta subscribe 😂 I love lesbians 💅🏼 yay lesbians ❤ (I’m a gay trans man xd)