Is Cam'ron Overrated or Underrated? | Everyday Struggle

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  • Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
  • On today's special episode of #EverydayStruggle, Joe Budden, DJ Akademiks and Nadeska break down Cam'ron's legendary career and try and figure out his all-time rank in rap history.
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  • @jaisonwaiste9575
    @jaisonwaiste9575 7 лет назад +318

    Cam would've been a superstar if social media back then was anything like it is now.

    • @TheSlimester0922
      @TheSlimester0922 7 лет назад +6

      Jaison Waiste FACTS

    • @sorceryshazmah7997
      @sorceryshazmah7997 7 лет назад +18

      Jaison Waiste indeed, FACTS! The man was an innovator, especially on the Fashion Tip

    • @chumarobinson8960
      @chumarobinson8960 7 лет назад +4

      Jaison Waiste he is a star fuk u meen hes the shooter of shooters

    • @momoneyace4195
      @momoneyace4195 7 лет назад +2

      Jaison Waiste off the thinkable like sad we could not have it like that

    • @moballardful
      @moballardful 7 лет назад +4

      Jaison Waiste 110% agree.

  • @ThySmithy
    @ThySmithy 7 лет назад +205

    Purple Haze is a fucking classic fuck you mean Cam'ron is overrated

    • @rwcjcf6266
      @rwcjcf6266 7 лет назад

      Ik cam was one of the few old new York dudes that had good production

    • @iam4610
      @iam4610 7 лет назад +5

      Purple Haze is top 25 albums ever for me. I agree he has NEVER been overrated.

    • @mosaicblue121
      @mosaicblue121 7 лет назад +3

      Thy Smithy I liked SDE and Come Home With Me

    • @TheBrob1983
      @TheBrob1983 7 лет назад

      Dead or alive one of my sleeper favs

    • @schdaxotick7398
      @schdaxotick7398 7 лет назад

      Thy Smithy facts

  • @snipedotgenius
    @snipedotgenius 7 лет назад +182

    Dipset was massive in London

    • @LionHeart_1111
      @LionHeart_1111 7 лет назад +13

      ashley campbell they don't know the ting! Dipset was huge over here 🇬🇧

    • @quadjaysport
      @quadjaysport 7 лет назад +3

      But didn't Dipset get fucced up out there?

    • @ray1411
      @ray1411 7 лет назад +1

      ashley campbell
      Y'all didn't know any better.
      You're forgiven my son.

    • @cashoverclout
      @cashoverclout 7 лет назад +9

      S.a.s

    • @mitchelljordan3521
      @mitchelljordan3521 7 лет назад +1

      Johnny X you sound drunk dude

  • @thatniggaghost83
    @thatniggaghost83 7 лет назад +172

    I still listen to Come home with me & Purple Haze and Killa Season..

    • @thatniggaghost83
      @thatniggaghost83 7 лет назад +5

      Supa Piffy HighSnuka 40 Cal went off on that intro

    • @Eternal5ent
      @Eternal5ent 7 лет назад +1

      That Nigga Ghost STILL

    • @greenspidey
      @greenspidey 6 лет назад

      yelp bro to me those 3 albums was when Cam was in his prime to me my favorite is Purple Haze

    • @youngmaryland886
      @youngmaryland886 6 лет назад +1

      I like all of Cam work even Crime Pays and The Program was a sleeper.

    • @MikeSmith-gx6be
      @MikeSmith-gx6be 6 лет назад +1

      3 great albums back to back to back. Something not a lot of artists have done....

  • @hiitsme3039
    @hiitsme3039 7 лет назад +97

    Hes not overrated and he's not underrated... He's camron lol

  • @goodvibestv707
    @goodvibestv707 7 лет назад +86

    Camron is super underrated.nowhere near overrated.dumb ass question is this? lol

    • @goodvibestv707
      @goodvibestv707 7 лет назад +7

      +oubre swishh your comment is overrated lol

  • @toneyskywalker
    @toneyskywalker 7 лет назад +90

    Purple Haze was an absolute #Classic! S.D.E. was a Cult Classic...

  • @27tmangs
    @27tmangs 7 лет назад +66

    Cam is a legend.

  • @rippleman3819
    @rippleman3819 7 лет назад +37

    Canary burgundy I call it lemon red/yellow diamonds in my ear I call them 🍋 heads/lemon head end up dead ice like winneapeg/gem stones flinestones so you can say I'm friends with Fred...#🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 #ClassicCamVerse

  • @ramoon9241
    @ramoon9241 7 лет назад +13

    People born in the 70's & 80s'- "Yo Cam is funny"
    People born in the 90's- "I like the way he dresses"
    People born in the 00's- "He does dance though"
    People born in the 10's- "Does he have medicaid?"
    Regardless of how you feel. The man used unfiltered Harlem culture and touched 4 generations of people. Dont take that lightly.

  • @dontehenderson5617
    @dontehenderson5617 7 лет назад +209

    Cam'ron Created Swag 💯💯💯

    • @bxckethatboi8710
      @bxckethatboi8710 7 лет назад +21

      Try again nigga. Ric Flair is the original pioneer of swag and he wasn't even a rapper

    • @TheBrob1983
      @TheBrob1983 7 лет назад

      Donte Henderson facts

    • @TheBrob1983
      @TheBrob1983 7 лет назад +7

      BXCKET HAT BOI RIC flairs persona was a made up playboi cam was swag ..in every way ..swag was created in Harlem by the cats selling in the 80's ..did y'all see paid in full that shit was real ..i grew up in that shit ..cam was a product of that and took it sky high

    • @neezusbrist8188
      @neezusbrist8188 7 лет назад

      Donte Henderson nah kanye created swag

    • @schdaxotick7398
      @schdaxotick7398 7 лет назад +1

      Neezus Brist lmao kanye created swag foh

  • @thedondon911911
    @thedondon911911 7 лет назад +29

    Just because an artist is good doesn't mean they're top 5-10-20 worthy lmfao. This era thinks someone is either trash or the goat. It's ok to be in between

  • @ronelldeadrick9252
    @ronelldeadrick9252 7 лет назад +157

    The Dips where way cooler than G-Unit.

    • @aristidemurwanashyaka7355
      @aristidemurwanashyaka7355 7 лет назад +10

      music wise g unit was better

    • @lonewolfe9137
      @lonewolfe9137 7 лет назад +13

      Ronell Deadrick you look like akademiks

    • @BAMADAN
      @BAMADAN 7 лет назад +2

      aristide murwanashyaka na everyone on the dips was fire, everyone!!

    • @marcopolo2742
      @marcopolo2742 7 лет назад +1

      Ronell Deadrick dips was spittin crack n gunz the unit was jewlry and guns

    • @tommybrown1903
      @tommybrown1903 7 лет назад +2

      Ronell Deadrick Yea Miami fuck wit dipset killa n jimmy way more than g unit movement remember them boys on Collins 04 to 09 some of the best years

  • @FrostMoneyTV
    @FrostMoneyTV 7 лет назад +44

    Diplomatic immunity was a classic album !!!!! I know it was a compilation but definitely a classic.

    • @354allday
      @354allday 7 лет назад +1

      Frost Money The second one was a complication first one was all Dipset

    • @kadiraydukureh7680
      @kadiraydukureh7680 2 года назад +2

      Come home with me was a classic too

  • @LASR2ND
    @LASR2ND 7 лет назад +29

    Cam'ron purple haze album is classic.

    • @alexp8455
      @alexp8455 3 месяца назад

      Come home with me was a classic too.

  • @prophecy9521
    @prophecy9521 6 лет назад +27

    Cam inspired A$AP Rocky's ''pretty'' persona.

  • @isaiahthurley6499
    @isaiahthurley6499 7 лет назад +303

    Cam'ron a LEGEND !

    • @charleschase559
      @charleschase559 7 лет назад +4

      Please tell these clowns he is def top 20 I wonder what they would say bout juelz and fab as far lyrics drake don't write his shit cam least u know he wrote his shit brought his own style niggas gon uzi better then cap next

    • @schdaxotick7398
      @schdaxotick7398 7 лет назад +1

      Neezus Brist drake not a cornball??cornball

    • @richchigga41
      @richchigga41 7 лет назад +1

      Isaiah Thurley who

    • @ohiorichkidbeats
      @ohiorichkidbeats 7 лет назад

      WE AGREE

  • @BVO4524
    @BVO4524 7 лет назад +16

    Cam'ron's impact can not be denied he is a legend

  • @signifiKint
    @signifiKint 7 лет назад +11

    Cam'ron freestyle on Rap City The Basement is STILL undefeated

  • @Cappadonna72
    @Cappadonna72 5 лет назад +10

    "I get the boosters boosting, I get computers 'puting
    Y'all get shot at; call me, I do the shooting."
    That shit as a whole was HARD!!!

    • @wisewayne45
      @wisewayne45 2 года назад +1

      Word... People Never Mention the Line that Follows... Computers 'Puutin' 🤣

  • @hollywoodpeezie1
    @hollywoodpeezie1 7 лет назад +23

    Cam an the dipset Fam them Boyz had a good run nigga we was in the south with the Bandana's on the hat with the matching Mitchell & Ness jerseys lmaaaaao man early 2000,s

  • @sorceryshazmah7997
    @sorceryshazmah7997 7 лет назад +25

    If social media was what it was NOW, back THEN...Cam would easily be a legend. No debate!!! He was certainly an innovator, especially on the Fashion side. The entire Dipset Movement was almost legendary, as far as how they handled business. Don't forget they had bars!
    Joe is speaking facts!!!

    • @dnice1904
      @dnice1904 6 лет назад

      Sorcery Shazmah if social media was around with 50 he would have sold 20 million copies. Nigga went diamond in that era

    • @daylaethomas4649
      @daylaethomas4649 2 года назад

      ,😄😄😄😄😚😚😚😚😚😚

    • @mamba4817
      @mamba4817 2 года назад

      Cam is a legend.

  • @JayEazy01
    @JayEazy01 7 лет назад +9

    Camron said, I give em an earful... it's tearful... told my mother I hustle... she said be be careful! Cam is absolutely top 20 ever

    • @tyresefisher3921
      @tyresefisher3921 11 месяцев назад

      Nope

    • @shtickeh9715
      @shtickeh9715 10 месяцев назад

      The like before that was crazier, “yeah I get it cheaper, I cop bricks like sneakers, and if the cops come I just hit amnesia” 🔥

  • @nbgreen02
    @nbgreen02 7 лет назад +30

    Purple haze is classic

  • @NateMac434
    @NateMac434 7 лет назад +21

    Purple Haze is a classic.

  • @Hypno_BPM
    @Hypno_BPM 6 лет назад +7

    Joe is so right about Dipset co signing Lil Wayne back in the early 2000’s. Wayne even took Dipset’s clothing style and beat style.

  • @shahid8545
    @shahid8545 7 лет назад +7

    Cam is a legend. He's neither over or under rated. He's a rap legend.

  • @biggerthanuchump
    @biggerthanuchump 7 лет назад +20

    Why joe act like his opinion is fact??

    • @geegar3825
      @geegar3825 5 лет назад +1

      biggerthanuchump he’s a virgo. virgos are know it alls

  • @Coolness18304
    @Coolness18304 7 лет назад +26

    I fukked with that computers puting line.

    • @trendngaming410
      @trendngaming410 7 лет назад

      Plug Industries man I thought that was thee hardest so on mtvraps when I was a kid.

    • @354allday
      @354allday 7 лет назад

      Plug Industries Nobody cared about that line until 50 only reason why it's bought up Cam got too many styles to narrow it down to computers puting

    • @kenbliss5622
      @kenbliss5622 6 лет назад

      what that mean

    • @Cappadonna72
      @Cappadonna72 5 лет назад

      @@354allday disagree, I thought it was HARD as a whole when you look at the whole bar. Came right after he got shot up.

    • @354allday
      @354allday 5 лет назад +1

      @@Cappadonna72 I'm not disagreeing wit the bar I'm talking about how ppl didn't have a problem wit til 50 tried to clown him. Get Em Girls came out before he got shot that was Purple Haze,Get Em Daddy remix was after he got shot

  • @bronxty
    @bronxty 7 лет назад +22

    Underrated.. I remember debating Comfessions of Fire when N. O. R. E dropped... That's was a classic summer.

    • @ray1411
      @ray1411 7 лет назад

      Tyrone
      Both albums were WACK! Lol

    • @354allday
      @354allday 7 лет назад +1

      Tyrone 98 was crazy damn near everybody who came out that yr was on Banned from Tv except DMX and Canibus

  • @noname1878
    @noname1878 3 года назад +7

    Cam’Ron is UNDERRATED because they overlook him. He makes classics

  • @MrEuroDollaz
    @MrEuroDollaz 5 лет назад +9

    cam'ron is underrated in my opinion! legendary

  • @BLKCOMP
    @BLKCOMP 7 лет назад +5

    " And I'm Never Scared Ma Unless You Miss Your Period " - Cam

  • @jimmyhoward1853
    @jimmyhoward1853 5 лет назад +13

    Cam'ron is a legend! And is very underrated!

  • @RDJetzDaPilot-gd4uj
    @RDJetzDaPilot-gd4uj 7 лет назад +12

    Noooooooooooo u can't tie Dipset with G Unit..fuck outta here milkdud headass boi. DIPSET had niggas reppin birdgang, Santana, Jim, Writer in his prime, Araab Beats..nigga is delusional as fuck!

    • @354allday
      @354allday 7 лет назад +2

      RDJetz Da Pilot G-unit was always 3rd behind D-Block and Dipset

    • @DaeDaeCertified
      @DaeDaeCertified 7 лет назад

      JERU I Disagree, I Feel G-Unit was one... because they had a bigger impact because they followed up after 50's GRODT

    • @dnice1904
      @dnice1904 6 лет назад

      G-unit all went platinum

  • @dtew4928
    @dtew4928 4 года назад +3

    His verse on champions is iconic

  • @caseyjones9621
    @caseyjones9621 7 лет назад +24

    Dipolmats mixtape vol. 1-5, Dipolmats 2 albums, all cam solo albums, the boss of all bosses tapes with vado, his lastest 6 part ep. Cam is a legend top 20 easy how you have redman over him?

    • @dasurgestein9359
      @dasurgestein9359 7 лет назад +2

      Casey Jones without Cam No Kanye Drake and southern mumble Type rap

    • @broderickclark4725
      @broderickclark4725 3 года назад

      I think he meant just lyrically with Redman but cam has added more to the game then him in my opinion

  • @SpartanFx-ln2sr
    @SpartanFx-ln2sr 7 лет назад +15

    Just know without dipset no Max B without Max b no French

    • @Ace_etereo
      @Ace_etereo 6 лет назад

      Robert Grullon exactly 💯💯💯💯💯💯.

  • @i_Appreciate_Sneakers
    @i_Appreciate_Sneakers 7 лет назад +3

    Come Home With Me is a CLASSIC!

  • @andrayanderson19
    @andrayanderson19 7 лет назад +4

    Ya'll had to live in NY during the dipset era to know how influential and dope Cam was. Dipset owned NY during that era. Highly underrated.

  • @DJkingFar-i
    @DJkingFar-i 7 лет назад +17

    Purple Haze is Classic

  • @willstaywinning
    @willstaywinning 7 лет назад +20

    I'm hulk hogan, randy savage bob backlyn pa actin haha who they think they car jackin?

  • @factzfromakt1860
    @factzfromakt1860 6 лет назад +4

    Come Home With Me is DEFINITELY a classic.

  • @Ghettoroyalty212
    @Ghettoroyalty212 7 лет назад +16

    Cam'ron is the Patrick Ewing of hip hop. #Str8Legend

    • @duronbryant9463
      @duronbryant9463 7 лет назад

      Know The Ledge GTFOH!!!!!!!

    • @Ghettoroyalty212
      @Ghettoroyalty212 7 лет назад +1

      duron bryant tell me how he isn't. He's influenced the game. Plus he's put on a lot of rappers. Cam is Harlem, he's really able to bring that to the world.

  • @overstandnigeria
    @overstandnigeria 7 лет назад +3

    Joe budded insight on music and its influence over time is something to be reckoned with .

  • @realmontana6838
    @realmontana6838 7 лет назад +8

    Cam did do that 'Neva scared' remix but jadakiss was on it . Then he did the bout it bout it remake with Master P. Then Bird Call with Weezy did put the southern artist over the top !

  • @capitalproductions98
    @capitalproductions98 7 лет назад +188

    Cam'ron is top 20 NY rappers but top 20 of all time nah top 40-50 maybe there's a lot of people you could name before that no disrepect to Cam

    • @oldschoolrap8174
      @oldschoolrap8174 7 лет назад

      Capital Productions agree

    • @REALTRUEJOURNEY
      @REALTRUEJOURNEY 7 лет назад

      Capital Productions clearly cam is your cousin lmao

    • @selphshizzl8050
      @selphshizzl8050 7 лет назад +1

      Exactly what I said..

    • @937dboy
      @937dboy 7 лет назад +2

      u smoking.. period! u caint name 20 of the best rappers and not name KILLA CAM.. foh

    • @capitalproductions98
      @capitalproductions98 7 лет назад +7

      937dboy
      1. Nas
      2. 2 Pac
      3. Biggie
      4. Big L
      5. Big Pun
      6. Eminem
      7. 50 Cent
      8. Snoop Dogg
      9. Dr. Dre
      10. Ice Cube
      11. Hov
      12. Andre 3000
      13. Eazy E
      15. Method Man
      16. Red Man
      17. Jadakiss
      18. Styles P
      19. Beanie Sigel
      20. Mos Def

  • @rockstarJOP
    @rockstarJOP 7 лет назад +11

    Camron is the equivalent of Allen Iverson in the rap game

  • @ilovelilwill22
    @ilovelilwill22 7 лет назад +4

    Killa & dipset was a hella of Movement.. one of the best era's in Hip Hop... from 2000-2006...

  • @jakefabian
    @jakefabian 7 лет назад +21

    Cam will leave Joe Budden holey moley

    • @Pme12906
      @Pme12906 7 лет назад +2

      No it's " I'll leave you wholey wholey, they'll say wholey moley"

  • @RatchetCoon
    @RatchetCoon 7 лет назад +4

    "Back in the day we was slave whips and chains its tradition all I got whips and chains."

  • @convertiblejay4857
    @convertiblejay4857 7 лет назад +64

    Underrated. And I'm not even gonna watch this shit lol

  • @rederyboy2
    @rederyboy2 7 лет назад +13

    Come Home With Me, Purple Haze & Diplomatic Immunity all classics! fuck you mean overrated..? Cam is the reason why you see dudes wear pink.

  • @yomike3427
    @yomike3427 7 лет назад +6

    Cam'ron is one of the greatest of all time

  • @alleyezonmetupac4380
    @alleyezonmetupac4380 7 лет назад +20

    cam top 25 all time

  • @luxw8579
    @luxw8579 7 лет назад +2

    Before Eminem Cam was rhyming words nobody thought could be put together,,in layers,,,,underrated frfr!!

  • @jasonbruch6030
    @jasonbruch6030 6 лет назад +4

    Purple haze, SDE, classic

  • @mylittledicky1238
    @mylittledicky1238 7 лет назад +100

    Cam is a legend, tell me you niggas didn't wear pink tees when hey ma came out?

    • @The_Queprint
      @The_Queprint 7 лет назад +4

      My Little Dicky Keeping it G, I didn't but I was fucking with the movement, HARD.

    • @Pizone81
      @Pizone81 7 лет назад +2

      My Little Dicky fuck no

    • @juicy_rickys_world3273
      @juicy_rickys_world3273 7 лет назад +1

      Everybody at my school was wearing pink tees and throwback jerseys after the Dipset blew up. Feeling old AF

    • @354allday
      @354allday 7 лет назад

      My Little Dicky I rock eit Cam but didn't do the pink tees

    • @tommybrown1903
      @tommybrown1903 7 лет назад

      Na trick was wearing pink polo shit in 97 down here in Miami. Cam made it a global look tho

  • @LamarKing215
    @LamarKing215 7 лет назад +24

    Free Max B

  • @snipedotgenius
    @snipedotgenius 7 лет назад +29

    Them man created mega and mayhem s.a.s

  • @miguelbraz2629
    @miguelbraz2629 7 лет назад +5

    Top 10 (personal taste)
    1. Biggie
    2. Nas
    3. Kane
    4. Scarface
    5. Big Pun
    6. Jay Z
    7. Mos Def
    8. Andre 3k
    9. Eminem
    10. Big L

  • @MIERSSOCIETYTV
    @MIERSSOCIETYTV 7 лет назад +9

    Cam'ron is a Unicorn not Porzingus 🦄, One of my favorite rappers ever

  • @celebratelife3754
    @celebratelife3754 7 лет назад +10

    He's kinda underrated

  • @stonez02
    @stonez02 7 лет назад +2

    Cam in his prime was cold though. If you're judging his lyrical content after "Come Home with me" I think he loses a lot of points. Confessions was dope, SDE was dope. Come Home with me was kinda like the break point. At that point, he's putting his fam on(Juelz, Jim, Zeeky). Hip Hop heads could probably liken that to when EPMD introduced the Hit Squad proteges.

  • @jmula1963
    @jmula1963 7 лет назад +10

    how Budden leave Wu-Tang out of top NYC groups? RZA GZA Raekwon Ghostface > All of Dipset + G-Unit

    • @hiitsme3039
      @hiitsme3039 7 лет назад

      Justin Gulati that group wasn't in joe Buddens era

    • @Laidback718
      @Laidback718 7 лет назад

      Justin Gulati hell fucking no

    • @354allday
      @354allday 7 лет назад

      IceCreamMan 79 He mentioned Rae and Ghost

    • @duronbryant9463
      @duronbryant9463 7 лет назад +1

      Justin Gulati how he leave Krs One

    • @ftwdamfseyg
      @ftwdamfseyg 6 лет назад

      Raekwon slapped joe buddens years ago,,, he know what it is....

  • @infam0usP
    @infam0usP 7 лет назад +29

    Cam on a good day might be 35-40 on the all-time list, but he's easily top 3 most influential rappers out of Harlem. if Big L never died, he was gonna be the face of Harlem

    • @willwillis904
      @willwillis904 7 лет назад +2

      infam0usP 😂lol what up P?!

    • @infam0usP
      @infam0usP 7 лет назад

      Will Willis haha whaddup slime!

  • @dunnydundutta
    @dunnydundutta 5 лет назад +3

    Cam is top 10.Hip hop culture.If you been around since the 90s and still relevant..Holla.

  • @chancellorbanx
    @chancellorbanx 7 лет назад +2

    Cam'ron is DEFINITELY UNDERRATED💯 We jamm da fucc outta him n TX

  • @agthaog1986
    @agthaog1986 7 лет назад +5

    Cam is the ambassador of HARLEM. ...when Big L died he really took that torch and ran with it. Put soo many people on forget aboot itttt

  • @ghetto29fab6
    @ghetto29fab6 7 лет назад +2

    Saw Dipset on a firetruck in Harlem hahaha. Good Times.

  • @ihatedannyk7121
    @ihatedannyk7121 7 лет назад +137

    Cam is way better than Joe Budden that's for sure..

    • @AGKapano
      @AGKapano 7 лет назад +9

      Duh nigga that's not an argument

    • @vincentlaurence8646
      @vincentlaurence8646 7 лет назад +14

      IHateDannyK nah, and cam is probably my favorite rapper. Cam can't handle budden on bars

    • @trendngaming410
      @trendngaming410 7 лет назад +6

      Vincent Laurence it ain't all about bars cam has it all he's better

    • @vincentlaurence8646
      @vincentlaurence8646 7 лет назад +4

      KombatJunkeeTV rapping ain't about bars?

    • @AGKapano
      @AGKapano 7 лет назад +3

      Vincent Laurence just having bars doesn't make you the better artist

  • @brianteo3996
    @brianteo3996 7 лет назад +2

    Can't believe I actually like this show so much it's my wake and bake....lmao

  • @georgebrobbey6882
    @georgebrobbey6882 7 лет назад +7

    Totally disagree with Joe Budden on Cam'ron being responsible for saying it was cool to rock with Wayne. In the late 90s, Juvenile was the man to rock with because of that song "HA" and "Back That Ass Up". It was definitely getting crazy play up here at the time. Jay Z hopped on the "HA" (remix) and it exploded even more in NYC. Juvenile was actually on A LOT of east coast tracks specifically Roc A Fella (Juve was on Jay Z's album) and Ruff Ryders (specifically the 1st Double R complication album. Never Forget. Down Bottom. Down Bottom was a massive hit single).
    Off the strength of Juvenile's single "HA", his collabos with Jay Z and Ruff Ryders Compilation feature, it got the East Coast in the late 90s to rock with Cash Money as a whole on major levels. One thing, I will never forget seeing in HS in NYC was folks buying Juve, BG, Big Tymers, Hot Boys, and Lil Wayne albums from 1998-2000. I remember when folks out here were screaming for Turk's album heavy! Even though Lil Wayne had the fan fare back then in his teen years, everyone on the low in the east coast loved Turks flow. So Joe is incorrect because folks were already rocking with Lil' Wayne and Cash Money well before this so-called Cam'ron "co-signed Wayne" claim. People out here in NYC were already rocking with "The Block is Hot" and the "Lights Out" albums. So "all praise due to Cam'ron" is incorrect. It's all praise due to Juvenile and how hot his singles were. We also saw an influx of down south MCs doing stuff with East Coast MCs because of the Juve HA record and Back That Ass Up record. Again, Jay Z and Juve (HA Remix/Snoopy Track); Prodigy and BG (YBE); Noreaga/Lil Wayne/Juve (were on Melvin Flynt Da Hustler album), were all features around the time Cash Money was popping across the country that was definitely between 1998-2000.

    • @elcapitan9776
      @elcapitan9776 7 лет назад +4

      George Brobbey Big Facts bruh. I remember that Down Bottom with Drag-On and Juvie. And you can't forget the tour that happened too. I believe it was The Roc, Ruff Ryders, and Cash Money all on one stage. Or it could of been just CM/RR on the tour. Can't recall.

    • @harlemdiplo
      @harlemdiplo 7 лет назад +1

      George Brobbey good point. there was or was supposed to be a Ruff Ryder's / Cash Money tour

    • @georgebrobbey6882
      @georgebrobbey6882 7 лет назад +1

      There MOST definitely was a Ruff Ryders Cash Money Tour!!! That's why I don't understand what the HELL Joe Budden is talking about that Cam'ron gets all praises due for making Lil Wayne ok to listen to. Mind you I'm not even a Lil Wayne fan but I remember these things about Lil Wayne's early portions of his career.
      It's beyond false. I lived through this era as a late teen and I remember friends going to this tour. Some kids born post 90s/early 2000s would probably take his comments to be true but it's terribly off. The sad thing is Budden is only two/three years older than me and even I remember these events LOLOL. Complex need to do better for real.

    • @harlemdiplo
      @harlemdiplo 7 лет назад

      George Brobbey everything you said was valid. Okay so you know how there's that "old" c.o.t.c / c.o.f / s.d.e Cam, then you got the newer "Killa Cam" ...... the same could kinda be said with Lil Wayne the block is hot lights out, and "Weezy F Baby" Carter 1 and beyond ...... So it's kinda safe to say that Cam made it known that him & his camp fuck with Weezy & all his new shit .... that "Fireman " "Go DJ" Weezy was a different breed ....... overall both Cam'ron & Lil Wayne reinvented themselves for the new millennium era

    • @DJMYSTIQUEMUSIC
      @DJMYSTIQUEMUSIC 7 лет назад +1

      facts! Again Joe only sounds intelligent to dumb nuccaz

  • @The_Queprint
    @The_Queprint 7 лет назад +2

    Cam's classic album is "Killa Season" because it gives you that whole DipSet feel. Purple Haze is dope, but U don't get that feel.

  • @trone1084
    @trone1084 7 лет назад +3

    Killa never aimed to be a top 10 MC. He one of the best to ever do it.

  • @j_dyme
    @j_dyme 7 лет назад +1

    That album 'come home with me' is a classic

  • @HannibalSahura
    @HannibalSahura 7 лет назад +3

    Cam first 2 albums was the shit

  • @buckjk25
    @buckjk25 7 лет назад +1

    I always put CAM with kiss styles n sigel. he a legend 2 me

  • @jukejones7594
    @jukejones7594 7 лет назад +51

    Drake is NOT better than Black Thought. No fucking way.

    • @chumarobinson8960
      @chumarobinson8960 7 лет назад

      JuKe Jones black thought is wack as fuck fuck the roots they r corny

    • @arlandofrazier
      @arlandofrazier 7 лет назад +7

      Chuma Robinson you wack

    • @beeasy6170
      @beeasy6170 7 лет назад +2

      Drake is just a pop star.. def not on my top 100

    • @lexdadon
      @lexdadon 7 лет назад +2

      JuKe Jones yawl fail to realize they are taking everything into account. Albums sales, trends, hits and not just bars.

    • @deejay1921
      @deejay1921 7 лет назад

      It depends on who you ask and what the mood is..... people don't just listen to hip hop to hear conscious rap... sometimes we wanna hear the melodious hits such as drakes

  • @devotheambivert9875
    @devotheambivert9875 6 лет назад +1

    Killa Cam is that dude, lyrically speaking. He shouldn't be slept on, as far as that aspect is concerned. @Complex

  • @sosa3220
    @sosa3220 7 лет назад +9

    Budden is trippin, camron defo a superstar, im a 90s baby and i vividly remember my uncles nem fuccin heavy with cam and dipset, and im from holland.. salute cam, crazy ass nigga lol..
    soundcloud.com/always-macaroni-time/bitches-everywhere-freestyle

    • @d-repaslp.
      @d-repaslp. 6 лет назад

      SO SA what the fuck is Holland?

    • @sosa3220
      @sosa3220 6 лет назад

      D-Repa slp
      Wow, u a whole dummy. 😊

    • @d-repaslp.
      @d-repaslp. 6 лет назад

      SO SA lmao okay where I'm from Sosa means something else so I thought you were from here

  • @ConcaCon
    @ConcaCon 7 лет назад +1

    Dipset was so huge in Germany. So many tried to rap over these Heatmakerz-type instrumentals, being completely swag and punchline-centric, they even modeled their clothing style after Cam'ron. Noone was trying to copy G-Unit in Germany, despite their sales. For a few years, say 2004-07 or so, endless German rappers tried to sound like Dipset. Just like how everyone is trying to do Trap in Germany now, even the bigger artists.

  • @MontyMonteka
    @MontyMonteka 7 лет назад +4

    Waaaaaaaaay underated Cam is that nigga fuck what any body says

  • @adamsahilu8799
    @adamsahilu8799 7 лет назад +1

    Great discussion! I have never sat down and listened to Cam'ron or Dipset, but everything mentioned in this segment made me want to check it out. Interesting exchange of ideas between the three of them is why I keep coming back to Everyday Struggle. Keep it up Complex!

  • @DCMFR
    @DCMFR 7 лет назад +3

    Does anyone know the song where cam says "we at the skii slopes, with the weed smoke...with some white folks, we joke "you need coke?"

    • @harlemdiplo
      @harlemdiplo 7 лет назад +1

      Dame never made it into song format, it was one of those Dipset takeover Hot 97 freestyles with JR Writer & Hell Rell. it's on RUclips

    • @DCMFR
      @DCMFR 7 лет назад

      harlemdiplo I can never find it, I remember that shit from when I was little but I'm been looking for a while and found nothing

    • @harlemdiplo
      @harlemdiplo 7 лет назад

      Dame search for Funkmaster Flex Dipset 15 min freestyle .... I believe it's in there. "on the serious tip, that OG note, hit me up if you do, it's right here in the pea coat"

  • @vapaperboi
    @vapaperboi 7 лет назад

    Glad to see all these positive comments..and real comments..cam is ao different there will never be another cam..bars u gotta listen and catch em..nigga swag is crazy

  • @kingindigo4215
    @kingindigo4215 7 лет назад +12

    lil uzi vert aka luzifer is overrated

    • @themollymachine
      @themollymachine 7 лет назад

      Boolin Coolin but he's not. that new album is super hot fire

    • @kingindigo4215
      @kingindigo4215 7 лет назад

      he sold his soul for you. i fucks wit conscious rap. not him and he gets named way too often. its my opinion and you cant change it

    • @cmara3696
      @cmara3696 7 лет назад

      Boolin Coolin lu cif ert

  • @SHAFTMOSLEY
    @SHAFTMOSLEY 7 лет назад +1

    cam is top 15 of all time, he ran rap from 2001 -2006. he was rap.

  • @1stflick882
    @1stflick882 7 лет назад +4

    Cam, fab top 5 period

  • @rashun8437
    @rashun8437 7 лет назад +1

    Joe made an amazing point when he spoke on Wayne's rise in the East due to Cam

  • @Logicalpsycho2323
    @Logicalpsycho2323 7 лет назад +4

    Killa Kam > Cam'ron

  • @rightnearthebeach
    @rightnearthebeach 5 лет назад +1

    "Computers Putin'" 😁😁😂😂😂😂😂

  • @ayp8808
    @ayp8808 7 лет назад +119

    Killa Cam is definitely top 10 all time in rap hands down

    • @bmore24t56
      @bmore24t56 7 лет назад +5

      nah lol but he is a legend Outkast 2pac nas biggie ice cube scarface Kendrick Eminem jay z Rakim Ghostface Raekwon

    • @bxckethatboi8710
      @bxckethatboi8710 7 лет назад +4

      Dwayne Sharpe You exaggerating. I can name 30 artists better than Cam tbh, but he's up there. And he's top 10 for NY artists

    • @chumarobinson8960
      @chumarobinson8960 7 лет назад +7

      Bmore24 t please stop wit this dumb kendrick bull shit

    • @Pizone81
      @Pizone81 7 лет назад +2

      Chuma Robinson bro you ain't never lie kenny is cool but definitely overrated

    • @Chopsbuster76
      @Chopsbuster76 7 лет назад +5

      All time ?? Nooooo....... He has never been in the top ten discussion , ever ! He may be in the top 15-20 in NY alone .

  • @rodneymack5197
    @rodneymack5197 7 лет назад +1

    Cam is in my top 5. 1. Nas, 2. Ghostface Killa, 3. Cormega, 4. Prodigy of Mobb Deep, 5. Cam!

  • @excusemygangster
    @excusemygangster 5 лет назад +3

    cam'ron has always been underrated and overrated.

  • @rodgozinya3009
    @rodgozinya3009 7 лет назад +2

    CAM is top 10. HANDS DOWN!!

  • @rickmatsokotere2251
    @rickmatsokotere2251 4 года назад +4

    Cam better than Redman

  • @paidbum
    @paidbum 9 месяцев назад +1

    Yea complex dropped the ball lettin joe go like he wasn't a Giant at the time

  • @kpimkpim349
    @kpimkpim349 7 лет назад +5

    Joe Budden wants to say something that matters so bad but can't

  • @butterflylovenj7300
    @butterflylovenj7300 4 года назад +1

    Confessions Of Fire is a classic, and Children of The Corn Cam'ron. That's my era.