One of my favorite moments in the whole series, an obvious faux pas where Rob starts to call the radio station, realizes he didn't even look up the number, and then looks it up AFTER dialing..the genius of Carl Reiner & DVD to both makeup for the error and realize it was funny enough to keep in. There's a reason this show's popularity spans more than 60years...
At 3:20 he is supposed to look up the radio station in the phone book and forgets and DIALS first and THEN looks it up and says 'right' with a smile for the audience. Surprised they left it in!
Sure, they had a little bit of extra time for retakes, but not a lot. Especially with an audience to keep happy. I think I remember Lucille Ball saying "I love Lucy" took about 45 minutes to shoot.
That letter relinquishing rights to intellectual property is quite correct. I once made a suggestion toNational Geographic for a TV documentary and they responded with a letter like that. I had to sign acknowledging that they may have come up with that idea themselves before they would discuss it. I never signed so it never got made. Disney did something related. I was living in Europe and wrote to them about 1991 suggesting they print comics with their characters teaching English for kids. They wrote back that they only accepted ideas within their own company. A year later Disney was selling comic books teaching English in Europe. That’s how big companies rip people off for ideas. They make money on your idea and you get 0.
True.. but just suppose that they DO have an idea in the works.. should they turn over copyrights to every one who has a good idea? You should have signed off on the Nat. Geog. You had nothing to lose and everything to gain.
Yeah, and I wrote something called the Gettysburg Address and suggested Mr Lincoln write something like it, next thing you know, he gets all the credit and there's nothing legal i can do about it. Phooey. Ok, actually, didn't you know the famous free strategy that's been done for, like, ever, which is to make print copies of whatever your original concept or words (etc.) were, mail them to yourself registered with signature required, and there you have it, proof with time stamp that you thought of it first.
If you check out the history of 'great ideas' usually the original inventor is not the one who makes the big bucks. The only one I met decades ago in Hawaii and he was worth millions. He invented the 'chip-clip' registered the name, the exact size and shape and set up ideal marketing.
I once knew a guy who said that he once knew a guy who wrote the entire story of "Lion King," sent it to Disney and never heard back, then the movie came out and it was almost exactly the same as what he had written. They didn't even change the character names!
Greg Morris was a friend of Van Dyke's and he used him several times in the show. My favorite with Greg is when they bring Richie home from the hospital and think they have the wrong baby.
I love the Yiddish language content in this episode. Farblundget, means lost, but good. And the ever-popular "bupkis", really does mean "nothing.". Oy vey!!
He can have more than one cousin. I'm more concerned about all the relatives (especially uncles) that Gracie Allen talked about in the final segments of the Burns and Allen show.
This theme may have been a sore spot at all the TV studios. I get the idea from memoirs and interviews that assigning credits was far from easy and far from perfect. Often another writer contributed without getting named. Heck in the classic Disney animated films, the voice actors weren't even in the credits. Fortunately, I think pros relied on relationships and reputation for finding other work rather than pointing to their name in the closing credits. In Rob and Sticks Mandalay's case, they may want NOT want their names attached to the dreadful tune "Bupkis." The other two tunes are lousy too and I'm glad they brought that up in the show about popular tastes.
Spoiler alert: This is very true to life. The truth is that when it comes to something like music, 15% of the success of a song is due to the lyrics and the composition, and 85% is promoting it, but whoever writes or composes will usually think it's the other way around. Also, people will often give someone something, and then as soon as they have success they will hang around and expect equal credit an equal royalties. In this case, they do end it proving that Buzzy Potter is a crook. Even though promotion is the hardest part, a) it appears he probably had already sold it as his own before even talking to Rob based on his reaction, b) he didn't even talk to the composer or get his permission, c) he definitely was using some underhanded guilting to get Rob to agree in the first place, d) part of how he convinced Rob to give him the songs was pretending he WAS the composer, which is a big part of why he agreed, and e) even with the verbal agreement that would entitle Buzzy to the royalties, he still should have to list Rob as the lyricist. Michael Jackson may have owned the rights to songs written by the Beatles, but he still had to admit the Beatles wrote them. It's sad (in a fictional way), because clearly Buzzy actually does have a talent for promotion. If he had found the composer and lyricist and said he was going to promote it, but if it is successful he is the one doing the work and taking the risk, so he is going to keep say a 90% commission and had kept their names on the song, everyone could have won. Yes, in this case Buzzy is a con man, but the way Rob goes back on his word and immediately expects to get his share of the credit and royalties before he even knows the full story is a bit ridiculous as well.
Also, yes, I know how they ultimately portrayed the royalties, but to be fair with a competent, motivated promoter still doing the job, who knows (for that song or others).
Many years later, Phoebe Buffay on "Friends", sold her song "Smelly Cat" and she was very unhappy with the result. It became a t.v. commercial for cat litter.
In this comment section, this episode generated big discussion about the rights regarding intellectual property. Neato. Since a 25 minute sitcom isn't equipped or supposed to cover it all, I might have to find a book that covers the evolution of rights. The George Harrison/Chiffons 1976 lawsuit (which is different circumstance) gets so complicated I lose interest. The DVDyke episode at least is sound in promoting the virtue of crediting who did what-----apart from royalties, percentages, remuneration.
I LOVE the Dick Van Dyke show.. that said.. this has to be the WORST one of the entire series. Rob Petrie is being petty. So what if his former friend needed permission to produce music? He gave him the permission and the little guy went ahead and got a band and had it made into a record. He deserved support from a friend.. not a lawsuit. This one was so NOT like Robert Petrie or his wife Laura that I just had to vent! Who wrote this detritus?
@@brightspacebabe No.. Robert Petrie IS perfect. It is the writer that was imperfect. The head writer of the Dick Van Dyke Show should have nixed or modified this episode. Maybe he was sick with the flu that week?
Instead of replying kindly to the congratulations letter, it was his friend who chose to send a legal letter demanding all rights to the songs. That does not make a good impression, as it shows that all he cared about were the rights, not that his friend who had happened to co-write the song had congratulated him. No one likes it when they send a congratulations note and receive a legal letter in return. Potter was a crook who took credit for other's work.
@@preetakumar6593 I don't see it that way. Rob makes a weekly wage by writing. His "friend" does not have the same inate talents and was grasping for one way to capitalize on a collaboration of the past. It would have been nothing for Rob to relinquish the rights and would have meant all the world for the little guy.
Verbal Sperbal.. if there was no success no one would care. Lust, sloth, greed, gluttony, wrath, envy, and pride are considered to be the worst sins and most deadly for our souls.
One of my favorite moments in the whole series, an obvious faux pas where Rob starts to call the radio station, realizes he didn't even look up the number, and then looks it up AFTER dialing..the genius of Carl Reiner & DVD to both makeup for the error and realize it was funny enough to keep in. There's a reason this show's popularity spans more than 60years...
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"Right!"
I didn't even notice 😂
So funny 😂
Love the part where Rob dials the radio station then looks in the phone book! A blooper that slipped through the cracks.
Yes and Dick van Dyke noticed it as well.
Actually, Carl Reiner found it so funny, he said to leave it in and use it. It didn't "slip through the cracks" at all.
It was totally acknowledged and that's what made it so funny!
love how he dials on the phone at 3:10 , then remembers to look in the phone book, and then smiles... he knew he had messed that up...
DEFIANTLY ONE OF MY MOST FAVOURITE EPISODES EVER!
All caps is definitely defiant. You defied the BE - JEEZUS outta me.
At 3:20 he is supposed to look up the radio station in the phone book and forgets and DIALS first and THEN looks it up and says 'right' with a smile for the audience. Surprised they left it in!
Carl Reiner and Aaron Reuben worked on Sid Caeser's shows - the actual premise for the VanDyke show. They knew goofs worked.
@@tomsampson8084 True, but this is not 'sketch' comedy it is sitcom in which this is very unusual.
Dick AND the audience caught it right away, which makes it more funny, so why would they take it out?
Sure, they had a little bit of extra time for retakes, but not a lot. Especially with an audience to keep happy. I think I remember Lucille Ball saying "I love Lucy" took about 45 minutes to shoot.
$10,000 in 1965 equivalent to $94,221 today. 😳 No wonder he was upset!
Him grinning at realizing he dialed before he looked it up 😂
Glad to watch it again after 59 years of seeing the original.
Those 2 little "ditties" Rob sings in the office..."Attilla the Hun" and "the Guns of Navarone" were also used in an episode of That Girl.
Dick Van Dyke to Danny Thomas to Marlo Thomas (That Girl). Cross pollination strikes again.
My favorite episode!😁
That letter relinquishing rights to intellectual property is quite correct. I once made a suggestion toNational Geographic for a TV documentary and they responded with a letter like that. I had to sign acknowledging that they may have come up with that idea themselves before they would discuss it. I never signed so it never got made. Disney did something related. I was living in Europe and wrote to them about 1991 suggesting they print comics with their characters teaching English for kids. They wrote back that they only accepted ideas within their own company. A year later Disney was selling comic books teaching English in Europe. That’s how big companies rip people off for ideas. They make money on your idea and you get 0.
True.. but just suppose that they DO have an idea in the works.. should they turn over copyrights to every one who has a good idea? You should have signed off on the Nat. Geog. You had nothing to lose and everything to gain.
Yeah, and I wrote something called the Gettysburg Address and suggested Mr Lincoln write something like it, next thing you know, he gets all the credit and there's nothing legal i can do about it. Phooey.
Ok, actually, didn't you know the famous free strategy that's been done for, like, ever, which is to make print copies of whatever your original concept or words (etc.) were, mail them to yourself registered with signature required, and there you have it, proof with time stamp that you thought of it first.
If you check out the history of 'great ideas' usually the original inventor is not the one who makes the big bucks. The only one I met decades ago in Hawaii and he was worth millions.
He invented the 'chip-clip' registered the name, the exact size and shape and set up ideal marketing.
@@poetcomic1 Walt Disney is a good example of an inventor doing all the work and later people reaping the benefits.
I once knew a guy who said that he once knew a guy who wrote the entire story of "Lion King," sent it to Disney and never heard back, then the movie came out and it was almost exactly the same as what he had written. They didn't even change the character names!
I miss living in This era Best of the USA ❤️
This was a good episode.
Is there a bad one?
@@garyfrancis6193 Just one. "The Bad Old Days" episode where Rob has a dream about being a jerky husband.
Carl Reiner is the radio announcer. He did a lot of voice work on the show, where his face wasn't seen.
So did Jerry Paris.
Originally telecast on March 10, 1965.
Mandola was played by Greg Morris. He played the electric engineer in "Mission Impossible."
He also played Mr Peters in the "THAT'S MY BOY" episode.
@@scottdowney4865 That's one of my favorite DVD episodes.
Greg Morris was a friend of Van Dyke's and he used him several times in the show. My favorite with Greg is when they bring Richie home from the hospital and think they have the wrong baby.
@@poetcomic1 Yes! The first time that I watched that, I thought it was hilarious!! 😅
He was also a semi regular on Match Game
The Attila the Hun and Guns of Navarone songs were later used in That Girl Author Author episode.
Verbal agreements unless recorded are never binding in court, mainly because there is no real way to prove it happened.
Rob isn't the kind of guy who would deny it happened when it did.
Is the radio announcer Carl Reiner?
Yes, he and Jerry Paris both frequently did radio and tv voices on the show.
Yes. And Mary Tyler Moore is the singing weather girl.
I think Rose Marie was one of the people singing bupkis as well.
@@evanandersen64 The people singing "Bupkis" was a real-life singing pair: Dick and Dee Dee.
Is that radio in the kitchen a Zenith?
A good part of that song has the same tune as Wake Up Little Susie.
Always drinking coffee at night.
I love the Yiddish language content in this episode. Farblundget, means lost, but good. And the ever-popular "bupkis", really does mean "nothing.". Oy vey!!
17:50 Laura looks like she wants to reenact the scene from Psycho.
Wait, Buddy's cousin Irving is a lawyer? I thought he was a dentist in another episode ("A Man's Teeth Are Not His Own").
He was also a barber in I'd Rather Be Bald Than Have No Head At All.
@@preetakumar6593 That was Erwin, not Irving.
"Buddy," like most people in real life, has a lot of cousins. He didn't have one all-purpose cousin throughout the show 🙄.
He can have more than one cousin.
I'm more concerned about all the relatives (especially uncles) that
Gracie Allen talked about
in the final segments of the Burns and Allen show.
Gregg Morris also in another episode where he was accused of having Rob & Laura's baby(baby swapped)😁
Oh that one is a CLASSIC
I knew I knew him; I just couldn't place where. He was also a semi regular on Match Game
Gregg Morris' real life son also made it big on a comedy show. Played the harried lawyer Jackie Chiles on Seinfeld.
That's My Boy?😀
That was a funny episode too
This theme may have been a sore spot at all the TV studios. I get the idea from memoirs and interviews that assigning credits was far from easy and far from perfect. Often another writer contributed without getting named. Heck in the classic Disney animated films, the voice actors weren't even in the credits. Fortunately, I think pros relied on relationships and reputation for finding other work rather than pointing to their name in the closing credits. In Rob and Sticks Mandalay's case, they may want NOT want their names attached to the dreadful tune "Bupkis." The other two tunes are lousy too and I'm glad they brought that up in the show about popular tastes.
Guess the writers never heard of “ sushi”- raw fish!
Spoiler alert:
This is very true to life. The truth is that when it comes to something like music, 15% of the success of a song is due to the lyrics and the composition, and 85% is promoting it, but whoever writes or composes will usually think it's the other way around. Also, people will often give someone something, and then as soon as they have success they will hang around and expect equal credit an equal royalties. In this case, they do end it proving that Buzzy Potter is a crook. Even though promotion is the hardest part, a) it appears he probably had already sold it as his own before even talking to Rob based on his reaction, b) he didn't even talk to the composer or get his permission, c) he definitely was using some underhanded guilting to get Rob to agree in the first place, d) part of how he convinced Rob to give him the songs was pretending he WAS the composer, which is a big part of why he agreed, and e) even with the verbal agreement that would entitle Buzzy to the royalties, he still should have to list Rob as the lyricist. Michael Jackson may have owned the rights to songs written by the Beatles, but he still had to admit the Beatles wrote them. It's sad (in a fictional way), because clearly Buzzy actually does have a talent for promotion. If he had found the composer and lyricist and said he was going to promote it, but if it is successful he is the one doing the work and taking the risk, so he is going to keep say a 90% commission and had kept their names on the song, everyone could have won. Yes, in this case Buzzy is a con man, but the way Rob goes back on his word and immediately expects to get his share of the credit and royalties before he even knows the full story is a bit ridiculous as well.
Also, yes, I know how they ultimately portrayed the royalties, but to be fair with a competent, motivated promoter still doing the job, who knows (for that song or others).
Remote control TV. Wow.
Many years later, Phoebe Buffay on "Friends", sold her song "Smelly Cat" and she was very unhappy with the result. It became a t.v. commercial for cat litter.
In this comment section, this episode generated big discussion about the rights regarding intellectual property. Neato. Since a 25 minute sitcom isn't equipped or supposed to cover it all, I might have to find a book that covers the evolution of rights. The George Harrison/Chiffons 1976 lawsuit (which is different circumstance) gets so complicated I lose interest. The DVDyke episode at least is sound in promoting the virtue of crediting who did what-----apart from royalties, percentages, remuneration.
As the 60s progress towards the 70s, the clothes become less and less attractive.
I LOVE the Dick Van Dyke show.. that said.. this has to be the WORST one of the entire series. Rob Petrie is being petty. So what if his former friend needed permission to produce music? He gave him the permission and the little guy went ahead and got a band and had it made into a record. He deserved support from a friend.. not a lawsuit. This one was so NOT like Robert Petrie or his wife Laura that I just had to vent! Who wrote this detritus?
It shows he’s not perfect.
@@brightspacebabe No.. Robert Petrie IS perfect. It is the writer that was imperfect. The head writer of the Dick Van Dyke Show should have nixed or modified this episode. Maybe he was sick with the flu that week?
@@feitme The character Rob had more than enough time to double think this situation. The writers were REALLY off that week.
Instead of replying kindly to the congratulations letter, it was his friend who chose to send a legal letter demanding all rights to the songs. That does not make a good impression, as it shows that all he cared about were the rights, not that his friend who had happened to co-write the song had congratulated him. No one likes it when they send a congratulations note and receive a legal letter in return. Potter was a crook who took credit for other's work.
@@preetakumar6593 I don't see it that way. Rob makes a weekly wage by writing. His "friend" does not have the same inate talents and was grasping for one way to capitalize on a collaboration of the past. It would have been nothing for Rob to relinquish the rights and would have meant all the world for the little guy.
:( I actually had to thumbs down 3 or 4 episodes this season
Verbal Sperbal.. if there was no success no one would care.
Lust, sloth, greed, gluttony, wrath, envy, and pride are considered to be the worst sins and most deadly for our souls.