Side note on PA feeding on Matrices, Delay can also be added for feeding delay towers or secondary mains further back in your venue. I also use a set of Matrices to feed side-fill systems on large stages (and sometimes drum monitor if they have a sub). This is basically a further extension of eliminating the need for a system processor
I do similar. Main L&R bus feeding a L&R matrix, a center matrix and a sub matrix. Main L&R bus is sending to mono speakers matrixes (center and subs) at -6dB from unity. Main L&R bus is sent to stereo speakers (PA L&R) at unity gain. Fine mixing adjustments and EQ can be made on the matrices. Quick overall DB adjustments of all matrices can be made using the main L&R bus fader if sent post fader.
Great video Drew. Thanks for all your insight into the functions of the X32. I’ve trained several new sound techs at church and I always send them with homework that includes several of your videos. They are so clear and concise and well explained. Your work does not go unnoticed. Could you do a video on how you set up the hot keys to control your recording playback? We use Logic Pro to record from and playback through our mixer. I’d love to also set up our board to use the buttons to control the playback. Thanks again!
Thanks Drew. This is something I've been intending on doing (as you note, "having their fader down in the -10 to -5 range..."). But this is a good nudge to get it done for my other volunteers.
So I’ve always noticed when I listen with headphones how much better it sounds then in the room. It’s so much clearer. So from what your saying this will help me to get room sounding more like the headphones. I work in a concrete room with flat walls so I know this doesn’t help
Awesome video Drew. All your videos are very helpful. You should end up doing a full x32 online video course from beginners to advance. I've purchased some online courses but it doesn't compare to your videos that you put out. You should think about it doing something like that at a reasonable price.
My band is getting our first X32 Compact for our gig rig. Our deal is we each supply our own instruments and mics, then we split the cost of monitors, FOH tops and subs, and the rest of the components running the PA. My drummer wants to try to use 2 overhead condensers and nothing else for our gigs that require drum mics. As the lead-guitarist who used to be a drummer, I realize the benefits of a simple rig. However, as the sound guy, I would like advice on trying to isolate individual drums on mixbusses via EQ. In theory, I should be able to use the parametric EQ to isolate cymbals and kick rather easily. Toms are also going to be relatively simple to isolate as a sort of group. Snare tone is going to be the hardest part to isolate. I'd like to be able to adjust individual drum levels because overheads do not generally produce a flat-response picture of a trap set. Is it worth the trouble to try to not mic at the very least the snare, if not the kick as well, or am I better off trying to talk to convince someone who may or may not understand the finer points of live mixing?
Hi Drew thank you for your work. Q should you not set another Matrix for the Live Stream? I have seen that you put a limiter on a Matrix for live stream in another video.
To send L/R independent you need to link the 1&2 matrix, but when you link, how to you adjust the volume just for that matrix 1 speaker? Eg: if the person walks close to the L speaker, to reduce only that speaker without affecting the R. Currently I have LR going to Matrix 1&2 unlinked but pan function doesn’t work.
Yes panning is what I’m wondering. I.e. do the individual matrices in a matrix pair receive the individual channels of the LR bus separately. To me it’s seem they are summed to mono and both matrices are receiving both L and R
2 questions for you: 1. What’s the proper way to send my pastor’s channel to a subgroup/bus? I am intending to use a DeEsser on his input channel & then use a GEQ on the subgroup/bus - pre/post? 2. How do I adjust ny matrix for the livestream? Lately I’ve been having issues - I send my main mix through a matrix to my video people; I send it Post Fader & the signal and the sound coming out of it is healthy. From there I send 2 XLR cables coming out of 2 physical outputs of my board into a 2 channel interface (gain on both channels of interface are ALL the way down. From there I connect a usb cable from my interface into ny video people’s computer. I notice that the audio arrive to my interface distorted. Not sure if it’s the send from my XLRs or if it’s something his computer is doing to my interface (if he is even sending me anything to it; I’m not a video guy).
Awesome vid! Thanks Drew! I can proudly say I've watched most of the x32 videos on your channel 😅 You're amazing man! I've got 2 video requests, if you don't mind 😁. Could you do a video on how to handle plosives on the x32? Also, could you do a video on how to set up a face mic like the one you've got but without the IEMs. We've got floor monitors instead and they feed back into the mic really badly. I've watched your videos on setting up the Pastor's mic, just wondering if you have more tips for setting up that mic in these conditions. Thanks!
Hi Drew, your videos are incredibly helpful so thanks for all your efforts. I'm currently struggling with a MONO matrix clipping after it has been summed from the Main LR. Is there anyway to attenuate the matrix
How do I send an audio feed of our entire worship mix to a TV in another room of our church? We already have the video feed; the audio used to work but now there’s no signal in our TV feed matrix.
Need clarifications. So does that mean your Main L/R is just signal with sounds and when you have Matrix 1 and 2 as main PA 1 and 2, (sub set up with matrix 3) does that means you should be focusing on matrix instead of just soloing out the main L/R and adjusting it such as EQ.
I'm planning on making a full series on my settings that I apply to drums, parallel drum groups and how I do my sub group processing on the rest of the band. Be looking for that closer to the end of December.
Hey Drew, great video and videos, very helpful!! I am having a little trouble accomplishing something, I have several mix busses but lets just look at two (Mics and Music) and I am using 4 matrices (MainL,MainR,Fill,Sub) and I want the music to run through all matrices (i can do this), but do not want the mics to run to the Sub matrix, having trouble getting this to work. Any thoughts?
Or, you could mix for the room and adjust the eq's in the matrices to restore the brightness that's missing. Another good video with useful info, Drew.
Hello DREW. Thanks for your Great videos. I have a Behringer X32 Compact at our little church and I am getting to feel my way in getting to understand it. Thats why your videos are so vital to me. One of my 2 main speakers output plugs does not work. I switch both snakes and they do work in the same output plug (#7).Do you know could have cause this? I know that both snakes are working, and both speakers are also working because when I switch the snakes in the same number 7 output plug both speakers work one at a time of course. omments ransford fearon
Thanks, Drew, for the great video. I've got a question. I once routed matrix 1 and 2 to bus 7 and 8 on an x32 compact, being used with a Midas DL32. But matrix 1 and 2 weren't receiving signal until I raised the level on bus 7 and 8. Is that normal?
is there an online service where learning engineers can go try building a mix on various consoles just for learning sake or probably building a template or something. if not, why because i think it would be so useful for learning
So L will auto go to matrix 1 if linked and R to 2. I wish they would just let you have 2 channels on the lr bus that you can send independently. I could not figure this out today because i though L and R where just getting collapsed to mono and doubled. But if linked it is actually taking from one side?
Thanks Drew for your videos! I have some questions: you have already made videos about the audio flow from a mixbus and how to mix this stereo bus (-10dB for music and 0 to +5dB for speech), as well as about the precision limiter and LUFS... But how to use the matrix in this context ? Am I missing something or is this another way to transmit the stream without pre-mixing via the stereo mixbus? If using the matrix is necessary/better to do a better job, could you make a video recap of the steps to prepare a stream on an X32?
Hello to you and thank you for all these super informative videos you give us. I would like to know if there is a parametric eq integrated into the x32. If so, how to use it?
Hey drew, Does this in any way bring problem frequencies especially in cases where frequencies go crazy and then I have to ring out Does it bring them back?
Thank you for your video, but still I have a question If I want my stream sounds great, i should only feed my matrix with stream bus and LR bus, or besides it i also should change routing for my stream buses in routing section Thanks for answer 😊
Great, thanks ! I got an strange question .. Is it possible to use knob control or other from the x32 as a surface controller in ableton. Example changing an program change or cc command for a real hardware synth throught logic by turning an x32 knob ?
It seems like setting up the FOH/Subs this way will bypass the "M/C follows Mains" feature. Is this correct? Is there a workaround of some kind? Great videos, as always, btw!
Actually it won't bypass that as the tap for sending to the matrix is set to a Post Fader tap point. So it will continue to work just as expected! Hope this helps!
Is nobody gonna ask the obvious question? If the PA is too “bright” fix the PA. I’m all for this routing approach but the “bright PA” analogy is just putting a bandaid on something. If one wheel of your vehicle was larger than the others your mechanic wouldn’t come up with some weird way to jack up the suspension, he’d fix the wheel size.
Yes that is true, however sometimes you are in a venue where you don't have access to the system processor as the venue has locked it out. So the matrix section would be the correct place to fix it.
@@DrewBrashler Ok, I'll go down this obscure hypothetical rabbit trail with you. If this is a one off gig I would hope that I would at least have enough time to setup Smaart, RTA, and run some pink noise to try and create some sort of resemblance of equal amplitude response. If this is a regular gig or a church gig I would address the root of the issue immediately. I'm not trying to get on here an be one of those dudes that bash anything that is said on YT and I appreciate the info. I would just like to see YT audio techs that have a following address more of the root causes of these things. I work for an AV company that specializes in church audio so I'm in churches almost every day and I tune systems all the time. These volunteer church techs are listening to everything you all are saying and trying to apply what they "think" they're hearing.
Side note on PA feeding on Matrices, Delay can also be added for feeding delay towers or secondary mains further back in your venue. I also use a set of Matrices to feed side-fill systems on large stages (and sometimes drum monitor if they have a sub). This is basically a further extension of eliminating the need for a system processor
Exactly! I go over a bit of this in the next video too. Thanks for the comment!
I do similar. Main L&R bus feeding a L&R matrix, a center matrix and a sub matrix. Main L&R bus is sending to mono speakers matrixes (center and subs) at -6dB from unity. Main L&R bus is sent to stereo speakers (PA L&R) at unity gain. Fine mixing adjustments and EQ can be made on the matrices. Quick overall DB adjustments of all matrices can be made using the main L&R bus fader if sent post fader.
Onboard usb recording tip: Tap from main L/R prefader to record, so that you don’t apply the room matrix EQ on the way in and double EQ on playback.
And the record volume is unaffected by the main LR fader.
The same way applies to matrix sends for camcorders or webstreaming.
More Behringer Wing videos please and thank you! Nobody is doing any anymore.
Gladly! I'll make sure to grab mine out soon. I'm waiting for some updates on the firmware to come along and I'll be making more.
I'm Amazed with your teachings
Great video Drew. Thanks for all your insight into the functions of the X32. I’ve trained several new sound techs at church and I always send them with homework that includes several of your videos. They are so clear and concise and well explained. Your work does not go unnoticed. Could you do a video on how you set up the hot keys to control your recording playback? We use Logic Pro to record from and playback through our mixer. I’d love to also set up our board to use the buttons to control the playback. Thanks again!
Thanks Drew. This is something I've been intending on doing (as you note, "having their fader down in the -10 to -5 range..."). But this is a good nudge to get it done for my other volunteers.
So I’ve always noticed when I listen with headphones how much better it sounds then in the room. It’s so much clearer. So from what your saying this will help me to get room sounding more like the headphones. I work in a concrete room with flat walls so I know this doesn’t help
God bless you richly drew
I’d love to see you talk about mixing background vocals into a mix and how to get the lead vocals to stand out and not get washed away in the mix
use heavy compression on backing vocals to get them to sit
Ready for next weeks video!!! That’s what I need!
thanks Drew for these videos. Can you please make a video on how to apply parallel compression/EQ with Behringer X32
Wow thank you Drew
Post faders is good, but when you filter the main LR that filter affect the matrix
I've been waiting for this video
Thank you
Please upload advanced tutorial of Behringer Wing
Awesome video Drew. All your videos are very helpful. You should end up doing a full x32 online video course from beginners to advance. I've purchased some online courses but it doesn't compare to your videos that you put out. You should think about it doing something like that at a reasonable price.
Great vedio thanks drew brother❤️😊
Excellent video!
My band is getting our first X32 Compact for our gig rig. Our deal is we each supply our own instruments and mics, then we split the cost of monitors, FOH tops and subs, and the rest of the components running the PA. My drummer wants to try to use 2 overhead condensers and nothing else for our gigs that require drum mics. As the lead-guitarist who used to be a drummer, I realize the benefits of a simple rig. However, as the sound guy, I would like advice on trying to isolate individual drums on mixbusses via EQ. In theory, I should be able to use the parametric EQ to isolate cymbals and kick rather easily. Toms are also going to be relatively simple to isolate as a sort of group. Snare tone is going to be the hardest part to isolate. I'd like to be able to adjust individual drum levels because overheads do not generally produce a flat-response picture of a trap set. Is it worth the trouble to try to not mic at the very least the snare, if not the kick as well, or am I better off trying to talk to convince someone who may or may not understand the finer points of live mixing?
Hello can you please do a video using the x32R on how to to add effect in a DCA and also in a mic channel
very very thanks
Hi Drew
I suggest a video on custom boot of the x32
Thank you sir
Hi Drew thank you for your work. Q should you not set another Matrix for the Live Stream? I have seen that you put a limiter on a Matrix for live stream in another video.
Wonderful
To send L/R independent you need to link the 1&2 matrix, but when you link, how to you adjust the volume just for that matrix 1 speaker?
Eg: if the person walks close to the L speaker, to reduce only that speaker without affecting the R.
Currently I have LR going to Matrix 1&2 unlinked but pan function doesn’t work.
Yes panning is what I’m wondering. I.e. do the individual matrices in a matrix pair receive the individual channels of the LR bus separately. To me it’s seem they are summed to mono and both matrices are receiving both L and R
2 questions for you:
1. What’s the proper way to send my pastor’s channel to a subgroup/bus? I am intending to use a DeEsser on his input channel & then use a GEQ on the subgroup/bus - pre/post?
2. How do I adjust ny matrix for the livestream? Lately I’ve been having issues - I send my main mix through a matrix to my video people; I send it Post Fader & the signal and the sound coming out of it is healthy. From there I send 2 XLR cables coming out of 2 physical outputs of my board into a 2 channel interface (gain on both channels of interface are ALL the way down. From there I connect a usb cable from my interface into ny video people’s computer. I notice that the audio arrive to my interface distorted. Not sure if it’s the send from my XLRs or if it’s something his computer is doing to my interface (if he is even sending me anything to it; I’m not a video guy).
Awesome vid! Thanks Drew! I can proudly say I've watched most of the x32 videos on your channel 😅 You're amazing man! I've got 2 video requests, if you don't mind 😁. Could you do a video on how to handle plosives on the x32? Also, could you do a video on how to set up a face mic like the one you've got but without the IEMs. We've got floor monitors instead and they feed back into the mic really badly. I've watched your videos on setting up the Pastor's mic, just wondering if you have more tips for setting up that mic in these conditions. Thanks!
Hi Drew, your videos are incredibly helpful so thanks for all your efforts. I'm currently struggling with a MONO matrix clipping after it has been summed from the Main LR. Is there anyway to attenuate the matrix
How do I send an audio feed of our entire worship mix to a TV in another room of our church? We already have the video feed; the audio used to work but now there’s no signal in our TV feed matrix.
Need clarifications.
So does that mean your Main L/R is just signal with sounds and when you have Matrix 1 and 2 as main PA 1 and 2, (sub set up with matrix 3) does that means you should be focusing on matrix instead of just soloing out the main L/R and adjusting it such as EQ.
Vídeo request: how you set up, route, and apply FX processing to your drums.
Look through the channel videos, it’s already there in a full mix breakdown video.
I'm planning on making a full series on my settings that I apply to drums, parallel drum groups and how I do my sub group processing on the rest of the band. Be looking for that closer to the end of December.
Hey Drew, great video and videos, very helpful!! I am having a little trouble accomplishing something, I have several mix busses but lets just look at two (Mics and Music) and I am using 4 matrices (MainL,MainR,Fill,Sub) and I want the music to run through all matrices (i can do this), but do not want the mics to run to the Sub matrix, having trouble getting this to work. Any thoughts?
Or, you could mix for the room and adjust the eq's in the matrices to restore the brightness that's missing. Another good video with useful info, Drew.
Hello DREW. Thanks for your Great videos. I have a Behringer X32 Compact at our little church and I am getting to feel my way in getting to understand it. Thats why your videos are so vital to me. One of my 2 main speakers output plugs does not work. I switch both snakes and they do work in the same output plug (#7).Do you know could have cause this? I know that both snakes are working, and both speakers are also working because when I switch the snakes in the same number 7 output plug both speakers work one at a time of course. omments
ransford fearon
hello , I have a set of Behringer S32 Stage Box in my hand, suddenly there is no response from 1-8, and 9-32 are all normal, do you know the problem?
So do you not want to use the left and right 15&16? Can someone answer this?
Thanks, Drew, for the great video.
I've got a question.
I once routed matrix 1 and 2 to bus 7 and 8 on an x32 compact, being used with a Midas DL32. But matrix 1 and 2 weren't receiving signal until I raised the level on bus 7 and 8.
Is that normal?
Had a good laugh at the Matrix overlay in the introduction I caught that what did you use to do that in the video?
How did u set up playing music with that button
is there an online service where learning engineers can go try building a mix on various consoles just for learning sake or probably building a template or something. if not, why because i think it would be so useful for learning
That would be awesome, I think the closest you would get to that is using a DAW like Reaper or Logic and then some multitrack files.
I have a question. When you’re saying Main PA and the LR Output, what is the difference between the two?
I'm running main l/r to inside speakers, need signal sent to outside pa. Matrix can do this?
Drew, where is the music coming from when you press the button at 7:00? How is that working?
Thanks for the videos
So L will auto go to matrix 1 if linked and R to 2. I wish they would just let you have 2 channels on the lr bus that you can send independently. I could not figure this out today because i though L and R where just getting collapsed to mono and doubled. But if linked it is actually taking from one side?
Hi Drew, great stuff! ❤ could you cover this same info using the X32 Rack With X 32 edit S/W?
Do you have a video on how to tune your PA with a M32?
Can I do the same thing on the wing console?
Yes
Thanks Drew for your videos! I have some questions: you have already made videos about the audio flow from a mixbus and how to mix this stereo bus (-10dB for music and 0 to +5dB for speech), as well as about the precision limiter and LUFS... But how to use the matrix in this context ? Am I missing something or is this another way to transmit the stream without pre-mixing via the stereo mixbus?
If using the matrix is necessary/better to do a better job, could you make a video recap of the steps to prepare a stream on an X32?
Good morning ! Can you send the p16 thru the matrix ???
Hello to you and thank you for all these super informative videos you give us.
I would like to know if there is a parametric eq integrated into the x32. If so, how to use it?
The X32 standard EQ is parametric.
Hey drew,
Does this in any way bring problem frequencies especially in cases where frequencies go crazy and then I have to ring out
Does it bring them back?
Thank you for your video, but still I have a question
If I want my stream sounds great, i should only feed my matrix with stream bus and LR bus, or besides it i also should change routing for my stream buses in routing section
Thanks for answer 😊
Great, thanks !
I got an strange question ..
Is it possible to use knob control or other from the x32 as a surface controller in ableton.
Example changing an program change or cc command for a real hardware synth throught logic by turning an x32 knob ?
is there matrix on the xr18
It seems like setting up the FOH/Subs this way will bypass the "M/C follows Mains" feature. Is this correct? Is there a workaround of some kind?
Great videos, as always, btw!
Actually it won't bypass that as the tap for sending to the matrix is set to a Post Fader tap point. So it will continue to work just as expected! Hope this helps!
What recommendation do you have for parallel processing in a way that prevents cone filtering? i.e. drums routed to a bus for compression processing
**comb filtering
Is nobody gonna ask the obvious question? If the PA is too “bright” fix the PA. I’m all for this routing approach but the “bright PA” analogy is just putting a bandaid on something. If one wheel of your vehicle was larger than the others your mechanic wouldn’t come up with some weird way to jack up the suspension, he’d fix the wheel size.
Yes that is true, however sometimes you are in a venue where you don't have access to the system processor as the venue has locked it out. So the matrix section would be the correct place to fix it.
@@DrewBrashler Ok, I'll go down this obscure hypothetical rabbit trail with you. If this is a one off gig I would hope that I would at least have enough time to setup Smaart, RTA, and run some pink noise to try and create some sort of resemblance of equal amplitude response. If this is a regular gig or a church gig I would address the root of the issue immediately. I'm not trying to get on here an be one of those dudes that bash anything that is said on YT and I appreciate the info. I would just like to see YT audio techs that have a following address more of the root causes of these things. I work for an AV company that specializes in church audio so I'm in churches almost every day and I tune systems all the time. These volunteer church techs are listening to everything you all are saying and trying to apply what they "think" they're hearing.