@@davidheath2427 and there’s good reason for it, they are forbidden to use current and former military cartridges. Pretty hard to become “enamored” with cartridges your governments forbid use of. I’ll bet the 7.62x51 and 5.56x45 aren’t very popular either. What about the 7.62 x39? 7.62x54R? Yeah, military cartridges. So comparing how popular something is m and leaving out why is not very honest dialog.
@megastick9324 wel actually in Europe the 6.5x55 sweed is the most popular cartridge , and it is military and older than the 3006 . In Australia and New Zealand you will find the 308 and 223 are the most popular. Check your facts sir we may not have auto rifles but we have everything else . What you hear about Australian gun law is not correct . We can own semi auto rifles and there are a lot of pistols available. They just require a different addition to the basic license. If you are of good caricature then there is no problem. We can't legally carry ,but certainly own and store safely at home .
Great video Hooty. The older I get the more I'm loving the 30/06. I've always been a 300 Win Mag/WSM fan but the 30/06 (especially hand loaded) makes a lot of sense. Thanks for sharing!
Man, great info on 3006 commercial ammo. I wish you the best when you do your thing in Africa. Create some great content for us and keep us updated, and most of all - be safe out there and have a blast during the safari!
My son is shooting 175 lrx barns. They are going 2900 fps do the math on it. Energy out to 700 yrds. Which is farther than any one should shoot at game. Factory ammunition is a poor representation of the real effectiveness of the round. The rifle is a Weatherby Vangaurd 24 in. barrel.great shooter. Fantastic elk round. Good video as always.
30-06 is my favorite. I have some shoulder issues and the 30-06 is the cartridge that works for me for chasing elk. When I lived in New York I killed a few deer with my 30-06 Marlin XL7. I also have a Winchester XPR in 30-06. I have a third that I just bought that is an oldie but something I always wanted when I was a kid and that is a Remington 760 Gamemaster pump action rifle in 30-06. I researched the manufacture date and if I am correct it was made in December of 1967. Younger than me by a couple years. I have found my bolt action rifles prefer 150 grain loads but I have had a few loads in 165 and 180 that worked decent. Thanks for the content. I love catching your videos when I can get a break. Keep 'em coming!
The pump will probably love the 180s..and it will be awesome . In reality it will probably shoot everything very well..especially at in the woods distances. All the best to you !
I have been loading all my cartridges for quite a while now. I have an old rem 700 that started life as an ADL. Now it has a 25.5 Shilen match grade barrel, Timney trigger, magazine feed of 10 or 5 rounds, and a Boyd stock. With the barrel I am getting 3015 fps measured with a 165 grain Speer spitzer, .52 bc. There is no sign pressure signs on the brass or primers. All my larger rifles are zeroed at 200 yards. That was my first true High power rifle and I still love it. 30-06 is our favorite for hunting elk.
I use a Remington 700 left-handed rifle in 30-06 and barnes 180 gr tsx or 180 gr fusion (bonded) . I get good results out to 200 yards. There are so many choices, but i trust that rifle and 30-06 caliber totally.
Because each rifle seems to like specific ammo the best, I'd like to see a comparison of a 308, 30-06, 300WSM, and 300WM with whatever factory ammo each one you have likes. The purpose is to demonstrate the reality of the ballistics your rifle prefers, not what the cartridge itself is capable of. For example, your 308 prefers 180 grain tipped core lokt but your 300WinMag prefers 150 grain lead nose slugs. That's a real comparison because I think most of us go with what our rifle likes, not what it's highest potential is (if it shoots poorly). Thanks for all the videos.
You can increase the odds that your rifle "likes" a bullet by reloading. It's normally a combination of the velocity and bullet of a factory load that makes a rifle not like something. But I do have rifles that I simply could not get to shoot x bullet accurately.
@@diggernash1 I have multiple rifles in multiple cartridges, many are duplicates. Example - I had 2 near clone rifles built in 308. Defiance actions, Benchmark barrels, McMillan stocks, TriggerTech triggers. The only mechanical variable is one rifle has a DBM, the other a floor plate. One likes factory Hornady ELDX, the other does not. Both like the same handload of 168 ELDM, Lapua brass, 210 match primers, VVN540. Both shoot factory Norma 150 Whitetail very well. One likes 165 HPBT Gamekings, the other won't shoot it worth a poo. Thus, even with handloading, these 2 rifles still don't share identical preferences.
@derekmcmurry It's crazy what can dial a bullet in and sometimes that it just can't be done. I'm north of 70 lbs of powder on hand with over 40 varieties. It's my version of a wine collection...lol. I have 18 different 6.5 mm bullets on hand, along with a pile of 7mm and .308; but Barnes ttsx, lrx, and tac-tx have been the most consistent hunting bullets across different guns for me. That's puttering along out of a .300 blk up to zippity quick out of 7 PRC; with my goto being 130 TTSX out of an ultralight 308. Not real fancy, but it is 6 lbs ready to hunt. I don't know about you, but sometimes I think I shoot to reload; though I have slowed down over the last year. I found tweaking recipes to be far more enjoyable than the actual shooting. I had a Begara that was stolen. It had just over 1600 rounds through it and other than 200 factory match rounds, no other 50 rounds were the same. The difference maker on it was going to small primer brass with CCI br small rifle primers. All 3 of the best bullets in it tightened up with those two changes. I finalized my load for it, got ready to go shoot at 1000 and somebody kicked my door in...Begara and Steiner gone, but I was most sick about the hours and hours of load workup.
@@diggernash1 When I learned of TAC powder for 308 I bought 5 pounds. My go to for deer in several of my 308s is 50.0 grains of TAC, Winchester once fired, neck sized brass, WLR or Fed 210 match primers and the 130 Barnes TTSX at over 3200fps. I loaded 60 with the WLR primer and 60 with the 210m primer. Again, those 2 custom rifles were at odds. One prefers that load with the federal primer, the other with the WLR. And curiously, the WLR primer ammo is 60 fps faster. For years I've heard that the Winchester large rifle primers are as hot as any other brand magnum primer and the Winchester large rifle magnum primer was designed for the much larger magnum cartridges and is the hottest large rifle magnum primer.
I have 3, 30-06 rifles, 760 rem pump n it loveS 168 or 180 REM CL , I’ve got a Parker Hale, with a 22” barrel that like 150CL BEST , most (90%) of my shots are under 100yds it’s thick n hilly here in PA !! Great video,
I can say by personal experience. 220 grain soft point RN does not expand on deer sized game. In and out. However you will get alot of penatration. 180 grain soft point RN is more suited for deer sized game, over the 220. Big Green still loads 180 RN, because they work. Can easily load a 180 @ 2800 fps. Ive tried 165 grain, dont have the same affect on deer. Im talking 200 yards or less. More deer taken in PA woods with the 180 grain than any other in the 30.06.
Love your videos.... The usual "holdover" zerov bhere in NZ is about 2 - 2 1/2" high at 100 with a scope centre about 2" above bore centre ... that gives you "minute of deer" to 300+ yards on a 10" circle with a centre line hold. Always aim for hair, not air, and with a back line hold you are sweet to 400 yards plus. Beyond that you have time for 'sniper' technique with rangefinder and doped scope. I am 82 now and a bit old school I guess, and too old for our steep country here.... but we never used all the high tech gear back in the day because it didn't exist, but we got our deer to a quarter mile. Long shots like that were rare though. As for your Alaskan dudes, modern monolithic bullets have the penetration without disintegrating at high speeds (close range), so your 172gr loads would be the duck's guts. The oldies plumped for the heavy slow bullets as they don't blow up at close quarters, and it's close up that you cannot afford bullet failures on a big brown bear. He might be fatally wounded, but could kill you before he dies.... not a good day. Those big slow bullets at short range are great....even gas checked hard cast work really well, but have a trajectory like a rainbow so 100-150 is their limit really....... Personally, I've always felt that sniping deer from so far away they don't need to be stalked is a bit off.... but that's just me. Beyond 500 yards there are too many variables for the shot to be ethical unless conditions are perfect.... still air, level ground and a good solid rest. Those are rare here... I have always had a horror of leaving a 'woundie' in the bush. In NZ, if you don't drop your deer very fast, finding it is difficult, and if it is able to run away any diatance at all, finding it is impossible. The old 30-06 is a damn fine round by any measure.... a true "oldie and goodie", and it's available just about anywhere in the world that guns are allowed...
I think it still is. On a vortex podcast, they said the 3006 is still the most popular caliber people bring in when the do their open to the public site in every year. It might not be the most commonly bought rifle, but lots of people are still using 20 year old guns.
Great video with sensible info and numbers to help any 30-06 boolot slinger with their point of aim no matter the distance 👍 Really happy for your Africa trip too .
My only rifle in .30-'06 is a partially restored 1903A3 made by Remington. Accuracy is good with irons and I intend to use it as a brush/woodland rifle. I might add a red dot as someone had the receiver D&T'ed at sometime in the past and I need to make a low mout to co witness a dot optic with the irons.
Thanks for the great video. I made sure to take a screen shot for the dialing chart for MOA. Even though it was specifically for Remington loads, I’m sure there’s a fair bit of crossover in performance to other similar loadings from other manufacturers to make this somewhat universally helpful. Best of luck to you on your hunt!
I am glad you explained the hold over ,there are a lot of young hunters (we will say) that needed the info. Your friend from Maine xall ne Butch 75 year old
If the 30-06 was good enough for old Teddy Roosevelt it’s good enough for me🙌 Craig Boddington and Jack O’Conner both Too of the greatest hunters of All time both thought very highly of it! The game isn’t getting any bigger or tougher then they were back then so I will just stick with my 30-06!
I’m predominantly a western Wyoming high-altitude elk and mule deer hunter and fear sounding like a total ammo snob, but I’d argue that I’m just trying to stack the odds in my favor. Barnes and Hornady copper all-day. Sometimes E-Tips. I THINK if you added boxed Barnes 175g LRX to that list it would take top spot for drop and energy at extended ranges. This loading makes 30-06 a very capable 500 yard elk round. I have a few elk rifles to pick from and almost always reach for one of my aught-6’s when headed out for elk. Great video. Thanks!
Exactly. A 100 yard zero is pretty inefficient especially when you're wanting to take advantage of enhanced ballistics in newer bullets and powders. 100 yard zero, talk about Fudd stuff....😂
I've enjoyed watching your channel and you grow over the last few years. Your passion will take you far, young man. It is fun to watch. I'm one of the old guys. Not much I need to see these days in the way of "boolot" performance but it surely is a good time to watch you demonstrate it. Cheers from Kentucky. Looking forward to seeing your Africa adventures.
Incredible breakdown thx for the graphs I deer hunt an 06 with 150 & 165 grain. nice 06 man ! I’m impressed by 110 grain hornady with 300 blackout shoots flat at two hundred yards
Great video dude. Been using corelok 150gr forever. But for sure going to try the Long Range Ballistics are awesome on that Thanks for all your content
@@WHOTEEWHO That's why your the best rifle and ammo reviewer. You give it your all and it shows. If your looking for suggestions on video the Weatherby Vanguard Obsidian and its threaded just like you like them. See ya bud
Hi, thank you for the content. I believe some of the older people enjoy. The 220 is like a pistol. Regardless of lower energy and lower speeds. Sometimes those larger rounds penetrate deeper. That's why they like them in Alaska.
I like handloading. I wanted to confirm or deny Hornady's Superformance powder claims. Did it do what they said? It got pretty close. I selected a 165gr Hdy BTSP Interlock bullet. Why? I have a LOT of them. That powder gave me 2954fps 3196 ft.lbs. at the muzzle. Not the max load but close is where I found accuracy. I do recommend this powder. I found similar performances with Hornady LeveRevolution powder as well that helped my 150gr RN achieve 2445fps. My point is, there are a bunch of newer powders out there that can add some horsepower to the 30-06 AND produce very good accuracy. That 165gr load groups three shots at .5". (24" Rem 700 BDL). The 30-06 is far from dead. One other point. Momentum is little understood and almost never mentioned in ballistics conversations. I understand it but I could not teach it in a physics class. A professor explained it to me like this. Imagine an 18 wheeler and a pickup going 60 miles per hour. Which will stop sooner? The pickup? Why? The difference in momentum. Objects in motion will remain in motion until something acts upon them to change that. Those heavy bullets are definitely penetrators, given you are not trying to use them at too far of distances. The old guys from Alaska are not all wrong. That 220gr bullet once set in motion does not want to stop easily. They are probably getting a LOT of penetration on their bear AND the load worked, and the animal went down. Given the times they had their formative years with guns, they were using what was out there. Fast forward four or five decades, new bullets, new powders, different ball game. I personally think the ballistic sweet spot for the 30-06 is the 165gr. The WTW chart had a very weak 165gr load listed. Nothing wrong at all with it for pretty much anything you want to hunt, but that bullet can safely go much faster which changes the stats of course. Again, the 30-06 is proven, abundant, and fully capable for the majority of tasks most hunters have in mind. If your ranges are 300yds and in, it can be deadly. I try to get as close as possible. I am 65. I have used a 30-06 since I was a kid. I got know it and got proficient with it. With my bad shooting shoulder due surgery, these days I shoot the 6.5x55 a lot more for hogs and deer in South Texas in the brush country where I am. Vegetation and terrain variances limit shots to maybe 125yds. That soft recoil is a blessing.
The ammo is pricey in 28 nosler plenty off other 7s much with cheaper ammo, most won’t have the gas of 28 nosler but good enough…plus I heard brass life is bad, for that price you better be better be reloading.. how do you like yours sounds like it’s fun
No 30-06 here but close, a 35 Whelen. Doubt I will ever hunt anything but pigs, mainly built for fun n steel. Hoping to get out to our old 1000yd range to play with dialing one day soon. Till then anything under 300 is fairly easy. Must also say that 172 load is damn impressive. Thanks for your time!!
South African here. I really enjoy your videos. To be honest, it depends on where you hunt. If you’re going to hunt up north (Limpopo province), it’s very thick bushveld. So your shots is between 50-150 yards and the only time you shoot beyond 250yards, if your game is standing down the road. Anywhere else, the PH will get you within 250yards or less, take your shot. The bullet that you’ve selected is gonna work great on Eland and smaller antelopes. Happy hunting !
It’s called point blank range. 3” high to 3” low. Some use 2” but I think that’s too small. There are calculators that can help you figure out your loads PBR.
180s vs 220s ballistic gel testing would be cool to see for penetration 🤷 mass and momentum mean a lot in hunting too. Just curious how they react different at say 50 100 150 yards
I am not sure how I have made this far in life without a 30-06. My dad hunted with one for many years. I started with the 308 about 20 years ago and never moved to the 06. Hard to beat a 165 gr bullet going about 2700fps in the field for just about everything Great video
30.06 still a classic. One of most versatile calibers. You used to be able to shoot 110-220 grains projectiles. I remember the excelerators sabot 55gr. People sell short the 220gr round nose. Yes, it is a flying bowling ball, but you can't beat the penetrating and brush-bucking power of this round. It'll drop all the biggest and most dangerous game on this continent. Just saying. Keep up the making these great videos.
Pretty interesting 🤔 and informative video. Thanks for sharing and doing the color coding for us to see it easier. My brother is taking his 30-06 from 1972 to Maine for a black bear 🐻 hunt in August. He has some hand loads with 150 grain that he is going to use. Oh and that is exciting that you are going to Africa, not sure if you are going with Jim Harmer and/or Gavin Toobe, or separately but cool either way 😎
I really enjoy all your videos!!! Please talk some about bullet construction when you discuss the various bullets and which ones might be better for larger, tougher game such as elk or blue wildebeest. Thanks
If you’ve never tried Norma Oryx 200 grain, they are awesome. Was using Remington 220gr for bear, and they were great too but lost a little accuracy based on the bullet starting to get a bit long for the twist. The 200 was Goldilocks. At 75 yards, broke both shoulders and put papa bear night night.
It's funny with the 220s, most of the armies already learned that 100+ years ago and swapped their rounds from 190-200 grain down to 160-170 grain with a spitzer tip instead of round nose.
Spitzer boat tail is optimized for flight. I think the real reason old timers like the round nose is for terminal performance. They’ll never blow apart(too slow) and they expand well due to the shape. Also due to the low velocity and shape you get good weight retention and penetration. Tipped bullets that are bonded or monolithic give you the best of both worlds
Good content! As an Alaskan, and shooting, hunting in real life, I will tell you speed equals shock! 2900 -3000 ft lbs is the the magic number. Energy is the answer, Like where your thinking is! I need to look at those 172 grain. Keep up the good work.
Great video, WTW! Common sense ballistics are best. A lot of videos require a masters in physics (At least for me) to understand. Going to Limpopo in June myself!
I really want to see a video with the 7mm rem mag shooting federal terminal ascent 155gr. I'm also curious about the muzzle velocity from a 26in barrel compared to what's on the box
I’ve never had a guide/PH complain about a 30-06 with 165 Accubonds at 3000fps only recovered 1 bullet on 10-12 head of game. Enjoy SA. Had a ball last summer!!
I'd love to see all those numbers again but sighted in at 200 yards. But you know me I'm mainly a traditional corlokt guy... Yep I'm a 180 grain guy. I'd also like you to hand load some 220 grain to those higher numbers. I'm a big 220 but the round nose. Loved them because the deflected less in the brush
All factory will be loaded to 60,000 pressure. Your reloads can be 65,000 in the newer bolt guns. 190 ablr can be shot past 2900fps in a 24”. A 180 CL tipped can be shot to near 3000fps. 30-06 will carry 1500lbs of energy past 700 yards. It is a hyper efficient cartridge. Out of my testing it has scored high in my top 3 for efficiency.
@@robertagusti3712 I would definitely say the best cartridge in existence. But belts have never been a problem. I don’t mind belts. But a 30-06 will do anything you need
My favourite RUclipsr talking about my favourite cartridge and who is coming to hunt with it in my country. 🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦 I took a beautiful black wildebeest with my 30-06 3 weeks ago. In fact I just had some of the mince of my Wilde Beest with my dinner. Enjoy your trip to SA WhoTeeWho. Hope you have a successful hunt. Can't wait to see your videos. 🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦 Ps, in which province are you going to hunt?
Ah ok. 😀 Shot mine with a Parker Hale 30-06 using Federal Fusion 180gr. My wildebeest ran about 30 meters before it went down. I made a short 5min video of our hunt. Let me know if you want to see it. In that I'll send you the link.
Interesting fun fact: A 30-06 running 130gr TTSX at 3200fps will have less drop at 300m than a 270WIN running 129gr LRX at 3100fps. Flat is good for hunting deer in open fields
I'm surprised at how well the Classic CL 180 grainer did. It seems that 180 is a sweet spot for the old girl. I'm debating on taking 180 S&Bs out this year.
Your drop with ur velocities are key components in ur rifle for ur doop of wat ur rifle gets vs the box. 50 fps to 80 fps difference down range can affect ur doop a bit with ur extreme spread in ur shots on the chronograph are cellulated. If ur trying to brake down the math in different adjustments of no quiet can to a quiet can added to ur muzzle at longer range diffences on impacts by a foot or by a few feet at longer range. Take a rifle to its max range where it shoots all over change the variables of things and see if ur rifle with those changes can improve those shot impacts
It's funny because the "two world wars!" should apply to the 30-06 far more than the .45 ACP because most people werent using .45 to win the war outside of the thompson and grease gun, the 1911 wouldn't be used that often.
I think that it's good to have the classics. 30-06 and 30-30 come to mind, but there are plenty of others. It's nice to have the new whiz bang cartridges, but those classics have that status for a reason.
.30-06 with 165 gr. Ballistic Tips by Nosler have killed many deer over my long years, never had one run, died as quick as they folded up dead. Just like turning off a light switch. Rifle is a sporterized M-1917 "Enfield", a WWI rifle.
Hey, who tee could you do a video chronographing your CVA Scout in .444 Marlin, please. I'm extremely curious what kind of velocity the .444 will get with 240gr and 265gr bullets out of the 25-inch barrel on the CVA Scout.
Almost 120 years later and the 30-06 is still one of the best and going strong 💪 🇺🇸
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Only in America. Europe and a lot of the rest of the world are nor so enamoured.
@@WHOTEEWHO🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦 as well. A lot of people in America's Hat love the '06 too. Myself included.
@@davidheath2427 and there’s good reason for it, they are forbidden to use current and former military cartridges.
Pretty hard to become “enamored” with cartridges your governments forbid use of.
I’ll bet the 7.62x51 and 5.56x45 aren’t very popular either.
What about the 7.62 x39? 7.62x54R? Yeah, military cartridges.
So comparing how popular something is m and leaving out why is not very honest dialog.
@megastick9324 wel actually in Europe the 6.5x55 sweed is the most popular cartridge , and it is military and older than the 3006 . In Australia and New Zealand you will find the 308 and 223 are the most popular. Check your facts sir we may not have auto rifles but we have everything else . What you hear about Australian gun law is not correct . We can own semi auto rifles and there are a lot of pistols available. They just require a different addition to the basic license. If you are of good caricature then there is no problem. We can't legally carry ,but certainly own and store safely at home .
It's refreshing to see .30-06 myths debunked with solid data on drop, energy, and scope adjustments.
30-06 still makes me happy
Great video Hooty. The older I get the more I'm loving the 30/06. I've always been a 300 Win Mag/WSM fan but the 30/06 (especially hand loaded) makes a lot of sense. Thanks for sharing!
Whootee is a man of the people... Freaking guy replies to every comment I've ever posted like a fanatic!
Appreciate you watching bigtime
I have several 3006 rifles. I like the caliber.😊
Man, great info on 3006 commercial ammo. I wish you the best when you do your thing in Africa. Create some great content for us and keep us updated, and most of all - be safe out there and have a blast during the safari!
My son is shooting 175 lrx barns. They are going 2900 fps do the math on it. Energy out to 700 yrds. Which is farther than any one should shoot at game. Factory ammunition is a poor representation of the real effectiveness of the round. The rifle is a Weatherby Vangaurd 24 in. barrel.great shooter. Fantastic elk round. Good video as always.
I love how you mentioned you’ll have your chart on the stock , that’s such a great idea . Cheers 🇨🇦🇨🇦
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That's exactly what snipers and LRTR shooters do. Long Range Tactical Rifle
30-06 is my favorite. I have some shoulder issues and the 30-06 is the cartridge that works for me for chasing elk. When I lived in New York I killed a few deer with my 30-06 Marlin XL7. I also have a Winchester XPR in 30-06. I have a third that I just bought that is an oldie but something I always wanted when I was a kid and that is a Remington 760 Gamemaster pump action rifle in 30-06. I researched the manufacture date and if I am correct it was made in December of 1967. Younger than me by a couple years. I have found my bolt action rifles prefer 150 grain loads but I have had a few loads in 165 and 180 that worked decent. Thanks for the content. I love catching your videos when I can get a break. Keep 'em coming!
The pump will probably love the 180s..and it will be awesome . In reality it will probably shoot everything very well..especially at in the woods distances. All the best to you !
I also loved my remington 760 carbine, I retired her after 30 years , best short gun I ever shot!
I have been loading all my cartridges for quite a while now. I have an old rem 700 that started life as an ADL. Now it has a 25.5 Shilen match grade barrel, Timney trigger, magazine feed of 10 or 5 rounds, and a Boyd stock. With the barrel I am getting 3015 fps measured with a 165 grain Speer spitzer, .52 bc. There is no sign pressure signs on the brass or primers. All my larger rifles are zeroed at 200 yards. That was my first true High power rifle and I still love it. 30-06 is our favorite for hunting elk.
I use a Remington 700 left-handed rifle in 30-06 and barnes 180 gr tsx or 180 gr fusion (bonded) . I get good results out to 200 yards. There are so many choices, but i trust that rifle and 30-06 caliber totally.
Great bullet choices. Fellow lefty ,with several LH rifles ,but my fave is a Browning stainless stalker.
My favorite is B.A.R. Safari , shoots great
30.6 is my favorite by far excellent hunting round for any big game in my opinion great show dude great info
Because each rifle seems to like specific ammo the best, I'd like to see a comparison of a 308, 30-06, 300WSM, and 300WM with whatever factory ammo each one you have likes. The purpose is to demonstrate the reality of the ballistics your rifle prefers, not what the cartridge itself is capable of. For example, your 308 prefers 180 grain tipped core lokt but your 300WinMag prefers 150 grain lead nose slugs. That's a real comparison because I think most of us go with what our rifle likes, not what it's highest potential is (if it shoots poorly). Thanks for all the videos.
You can increase the odds that your rifle "likes" a bullet by reloading. It's normally a combination of the velocity and bullet of a factory load that makes a rifle not like something. But I do have rifles that I simply could not get to shoot x bullet accurately.
@@diggernash1 Yes of course. Been handloading 35 years. But this channel focuses on factory ammo, hence, my comment
@@diggernash1 I have multiple rifles in multiple cartridges, many are duplicates. Example - I had 2 near clone rifles built in 308. Defiance actions, Benchmark barrels, McMillan stocks, TriggerTech triggers. The only mechanical variable is one rifle has a DBM, the other a floor plate. One likes factory Hornady ELDX, the other does not. Both like the same handload of 168 ELDM, Lapua brass, 210 match primers, VVN540. Both shoot factory Norma 150 Whitetail very well. One likes 165 HPBT Gamekings, the other won't shoot it worth a poo. Thus, even with handloading, these 2 rifles still don't share identical preferences.
@derekmcmurry It's crazy what can dial a bullet in and sometimes that it just can't be done. I'm north of 70 lbs of powder on hand with over 40 varieties. It's my version of a wine collection...lol. I have 18 different 6.5 mm bullets on hand, along with a pile of 7mm and .308; but Barnes ttsx, lrx, and tac-tx have been the most consistent hunting bullets across different guns for me. That's puttering along out of a .300 blk up to zippity quick out of 7 PRC; with my goto being 130 TTSX out of an ultralight 308. Not real fancy, but it is 6 lbs ready to hunt.
I don't know about you, but sometimes I think I shoot to reload; though I have slowed down over the last year. I found tweaking recipes to be far more enjoyable than the actual shooting. I had a Begara that was stolen. It had just over 1600 rounds through it and other than 200 factory match rounds, no other 50 rounds were the same. The difference maker on it was going to small primer brass with CCI br small rifle primers. All 3 of the best bullets in it tightened up with those two changes. I finalized my load for it, got ready to go shoot at 1000 and somebody kicked my door in...Begara and Steiner gone, but I was most sick about the hours and hours of load workup.
@@diggernash1 When I learned of TAC powder for 308 I bought 5 pounds. My go to for deer in several of my 308s is 50.0 grains of TAC, Winchester once fired, neck sized brass, WLR or Fed 210 match primers and the 130 Barnes TTSX at over 3200fps. I loaded 60 with the WLR primer and 60 with the 210m primer. Again, those 2 custom rifles were at odds. One prefers that load with the federal primer, the other with the WLR. And curiously, the WLR primer ammo is 60 fps faster. For years I've heard that the Winchester large rifle primers are as hot as any other brand magnum primer and the Winchester large rifle magnum primer was designed for the much larger magnum cartridges and is the hottest large rifle magnum primer.
I have 3, 30-06 rifles, 760 rem pump n it loveS 168 or 180 REM CL , I’ve got a Parker Hale, with a 22” barrel that like 150CL BEST , most (90%) of my shots are under 100yds it’s thick n hilly here in PA !! Great video,
I can say by personal experience. 220 grain soft point RN does not expand on deer sized game. In and out. However you will get alot of penatration. 180 grain soft point RN is more suited for deer sized game, over the 220. Big Green still loads 180 RN, because they work.
Can easily load a 180 @ 2800 fps.
Ive tried 165 grain, dont have the same affect on deer. Im talking 200 yards or less. More deer taken in PA woods with the 180 grain than any other in the 30.06.
Love your videos....
The usual "holdover" zerov bhere in NZ is about 2 - 2 1/2" high at 100 with a scope centre about 2" above bore centre ... that gives you "minute of deer" to 300+ yards on a 10" circle with a centre line hold. Always aim for hair, not air, and with a back line hold you are sweet to 400 yards plus. Beyond that you have time for 'sniper' technique with rangefinder and doped scope.
I am 82 now and a bit old school I guess, and too old for our steep country here.... but we never used all the high tech gear back in the day because it didn't exist, but we got our deer to a quarter mile. Long shots like that were rare though.
As for your Alaskan dudes, modern monolithic bullets have the penetration without disintegrating at high speeds (close range), so your 172gr loads would be the duck's guts.
The oldies plumped for the heavy slow bullets as they don't blow up at close quarters, and it's close up that you cannot afford bullet failures on a big brown bear. He might be fatally wounded, but could kill you before he dies.... not a good day. Those big slow bullets at short range are great....even gas checked hard cast work really well, but have a trajectory like a rainbow so 100-150 is their limit really.......
Personally, I've always felt that sniping deer from so far away they don't need to be stalked is a bit off.... but that's just me. Beyond 500 yards there are too many variables for the shot to be ethical unless conditions are perfect.... still air, level ground and a good solid rest. Those are rare here...
I have always had a horror of leaving a 'woundie' in the bush. In NZ, if you don't drop your deer very fast, finding it is difficult, and if it is able to run away any diatance at all, finding it is impossible.
The old 30-06 is a damn fine round by any measure.... a true "oldie and goodie", and it's available just about anywhere in the world that guns are allowed...
3006 was pretty much the go to cartridge all the way into the 60s
I think it still is. On a vortex podcast, they said the 3006 is still the most popular caliber people bring in when the do their open to the public site in every year. It might not be the most commonly bought rifle, but lots of people are still using 20 year old guns.
All the way back to 1910's and '20's. It was developed in 1906.
It been a long lived caliber !
Good information in all of that data.
In California i used a beautiful 3006 a wyb but in Cortez Colorado I used a wyb 300 😊😊 and this is great info 👍👍👏 my friend 😊😊😊
I live north of Cortez Colorado do you live near
3006 and fudlore in the title? RUclips summoned me
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Great video with sensible info and numbers to help any 30-06 boolot slinger with their point of aim no matter the distance 👍 Really happy for your Africa trip too .
Cool! A video about something I own Love it!
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My only rifle in .30-'06 is a partially restored 1903A3 made by Remington.
Accuracy is good with irons and I intend to use it as a brush/woodland rifle. I might add a red dot as someone had the receiver D&T'ed at sometime in the past and I need to make a low mout to co witness a dot optic with the irons.
I take deer elk and Antelope with the 150 grain
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Another great video thanks. I am looking forward to the chronograph readings and comparison to velocity on the box.
Excellent 👌 Info on the 30.06 Adam! Going to Keep that chart in my Range Bag and my phone 👍. Thanks for your work 👉💥. Appreciate it . Cheers 🙏✝️.
Thank you for doing these informative videos, Scott.
Thanks for watching
With new bullet designs the good old 3006 just keeps getting better!
I have a Remington 700 in 30-06 and it likes Federal 180 psp and hand loaded 180 grain sst .
Another great show appreciate the information and I love a 30-06
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Awesome stuff right here, excited about the Africa hunt for you!
Thanks for the great video. I made sure to take a screen shot for the dialing chart for MOA. Even though it was specifically for Remington loads, I’m sure there’s a fair bit of crossover in performance to other similar loadings from other manufacturers to make this somewhat universally helpful. Best of luck to you on your hunt!
I am glad you explained the hold over ,there are a lot of young hunters (we will say) that needed the info. Your friend from Maine xall ne Butch 75 year old
If the 30-06 was good enough for old Teddy Roosevelt it’s good enough for me🙌 Craig Boddington and Jack O’Conner both Too of the greatest hunters of All time both thought very highly of it! The game isn’t getting any bigger or tougher then they were back then so I will just stick with my 30-06!
I’m predominantly a western Wyoming high-altitude elk and mule deer hunter and fear sounding like a total ammo snob, but I’d argue that I’m just trying to stack the odds in my favor. Barnes and Hornady copper all-day. Sometimes E-Tips.
I THINK if you added boxed Barnes 175g LRX to that list it would take top spot for drop and energy at extended ranges. This loading makes 30-06 a very capable 500 yard elk round.
I have a few elk rifles to pick from and almost always reach for one of my aught-6’s when headed out for elk.
Great video. Thanks!
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Thanks Adam, appreciate great information as I recently aquired a Howa 1500 in 30-06...sofar very happy with the accuracy
Awesome. Thanks for watching
Zero +3" at 100 and not worry about holding over out to 350.
Exactly. A 100 yard zero is pretty inefficient especially when you're wanting to take advantage of enhanced ballistics in newer bullets and powders. 100 yard zero, talk about Fudd stuff....😂
I've enjoyed watching your channel and you grow over the last few years. Your passion will take you far, young man. It is fun to watch. I'm one of the old guys. Not much I need to see these days in the way of "boolot" performance but it surely is a good time to watch you demonstrate it. Cheers from Kentucky. Looking forward to seeing your Africa adventures.
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Another great Video 💯 thanks for Sharing 💥💥💥💥💥💥💥
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I’m so happy to see you taking the Impulse to Africa. I just got mine (also in .30-06) and I’m hoping to catch a deer or two this fall.
Awesome! Let me know how it goes
Incredible breakdown thx for the graphs I deer hunt an 06 with 150 & 165 grain. nice 06 man ! I’m impressed by 110 grain hornady with 300 blackout shoots flat at two hundred yards
Yes, he does answer messages. Great guy and knowledgeable. I enjoy your content. WTW, Adam
🙏🙏🙏 always appreciate you watching!
Last few years I have used my .308 , this season think I`ll get my dad`s Model 70 in 30.06 out of the safe after watching this. Thanks Adam
Thanks for watching
Adam. You really spent some time on this one.
Pretty near an entire day
Ahhhhh son. Ya know how I love my 06
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Great video dude. Been using corelok 150gr forever. But for sure going to try the Long Range Ballistics are awesome on that Thanks for all your content
Appreciate you watching 🙏. This video was a lot of work
@@WHOTEEWHO That's why your the best rifle and ammo reviewer. You give it your all and it shows. If your looking for suggestions on video the Weatherby Vanguard Obsidian and its threaded just like you like them. See ya bud
Hi, thank you for the content. I believe some of the older people enjoy. The 220 is like a pistol. Regardless of lower energy and lower speeds. Sometimes those larger rounds penetrate deeper. That's why they like them in Alaska.
I like handloading. I wanted to confirm or deny Hornady's Superformance powder claims. Did it do what they said? It got pretty close. I selected a 165gr Hdy BTSP Interlock bullet. Why? I have a LOT of them. That powder gave me 2954fps 3196 ft.lbs. at the muzzle. Not the max load but close is where I found accuracy. I do recommend this powder. I found similar performances with Hornady LeveRevolution powder as well that helped my 150gr RN achieve 2445fps. My point is, there are a bunch of newer powders out there that can add some horsepower to the 30-06 AND produce very good accuracy. That 165gr load groups three shots at .5". (24" Rem 700 BDL). The 30-06 is far from dead. One other point. Momentum is little understood and almost never mentioned in ballistics conversations. I understand it but I could not teach it in a physics class. A professor explained it to me like this. Imagine an 18 wheeler and a pickup going 60 miles per hour. Which will stop sooner? The pickup? Why? The difference in momentum. Objects in motion will remain in motion until something acts upon them to change that. Those heavy bullets are definitely penetrators, given you are not trying to use them at too far of distances. The old guys from Alaska are not all wrong. That 220gr bullet once set in motion does not want to stop easily. They are probably getting a LOT of penetration on their bear AND the load worked, and the animal went down. Given the times they had their formative years with guns, they were using what was out there. Fast forward four or five decades, new bullets, new powders, different ball game. I personally think the ballistic sweet spot for the 30-06 is the 165gr. The WTW chart had a very weak 165gr load listed. Nothing wrong at all with it for pretty much anything you want to hunt, but that bullet can safely go much faster which changes the stats of course. Again, the 30-06 is proven, abundant, and fully capable for the majority of tasks most hunters have in mind. If your ranges are 300yds and in, it can be deadly. I try to get as close as possible. I am 65. I have used a 30-06 since I was a kid. I got know it and got proficient with it. With my bad shooting shoulder due surgery, these days I shoot the 6.5x55 a lot more for hogs and deer in South Texas in the brush country where I am. Vegetation and terrain variances limit shots to maybe 125yds. That soft recoil is a blessing.
Thanks WTW 👍
Pick up a 28 nosler I just got one myself fell in love with it
Need one
The ammo is pricey in 28 nosler plenty off other 7s much with cheaper ammo, most won’t have the gas of 28 nosler but good enough…plus I heard brass life is bad, for that price you better be better be reloading.. how do you like yours sounds like it’s fun
No 30-06 here but close, a 35 Whelen. Doubt I will ever hunt anything but pigs, mainly built for fun n steel. Hoping to get out to our old 1000yd range to play with dialing one day soon. Till then anything under 300 is fairly easy. Must also say that 172 load is damn impressive. Thanks for your time!!
Good luck on your trip
Thanks!
South African here. I really enjoy your videos.
To be honest, it depends on where you hunt. If you’re going to hunt up north (Limpopo province), it’s very thick bushveld. So your shots is between 50-150 yards and the only time you shoot beyond 250yards, if your game is standing down the road. Anywhere else, the PH will get you within 250yards or less, take your shot. The bullet that you’ve selected is gonna work great on Eland and smaller antelopes. Happy hunting !
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A 270win is a 3inch drop at 300 yards, with 130gr. Zero for 200. Basically dead hold zero from 100-300 yards. Super simple
It’s called point blank range. 3” high to 3” low. Some use 2” but I think that’s too small. There are calculators that can help you figure out your loads PBR.
180s vs 220s ballistic gel testing would be cool to see for penetration 🤷 mass and momentum mean a lot in hunting too. Just curious how they react different at say 50 100 150 yards
I am not sure how I have made this far in life without a 30-06. My dad hunted with one for many years. I started with the 308 about 20 years ago and never moved to the 06. Hard to beat a 165 gr bullet going about 2700fps in the field for just about everything Great video
I've taken 2 deer w 30-06. If I count right I think I have 4 of them 😝
My favorite is the 165gr Barnes. Now I'm definitely going to try the 172's on an elk this year.
Great video, I love hunting with my 30-06. I would love to see a comparison between the savage impulse vs the beretta brx1
30.06 still a classic. One of most versatile calibers. You used to be able to shoot 110-220 grains projectiles. I remember the excelerators sabot 55gr. People sell short the 220gr round nose. Yes, it is a flying bowling ball, but you can't beat the penetrating and brush-bucking power of this round. It'll drop all the biggest and most dangerous game on this continent. Just saying.
Keep up the making these great videos.
This ballistics stuff is what you do that interests me the most. :}
Appreciate you watching
I chose the venerable 06 about 45 years ago. Hundreds of deer and eleven black bears, and counting. The cartridge has never let me down.
High time that you come visit the most amazing hunting grounds!!! Welcome to South Africa
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Very interesting! 😀
Thanks for watching
Looking forward to more myth-busting content!
@@ValidSurvival thanks for watching
Thanks who tee I enjoyed that video 😊
@nathenfarmer5625 thanks for watching!
Pretty interesting 🤔 and informative video. Thanks for sharing and doing the color coding for us to see it easier.
My brother is taking his 30-06 from 1972 to Maine for a black bear 🐻 hunt in August. He has some hand loads with 150 grain that he is going to use.
Oh and that is exciting that you are going to Africa, not sure if you are going with Jim Harmer and/or Gavin Toobe, or separately but cool either way 😎
Thanks for watching! Going by myself
@@WHOTEEWHO you are welcome 🙏 Adam and that’s pretty cool. Just wait until you get that taxidermy bill 💸 lol
Thanks for the data
Thanks for watching
I really enjoy all your videos!!! Please talk some about bullet construction when you discuss the various bullets and which ones might be better for larger, tougher game such as elk or blue wildebeest. Thanks
Good point
I have two 30-06. A Bergara right handed and an old Remington 7400 or 720 woodsmaster semi auto in 30-06.
If you’ve never tried Norma Oryx 200 grain, they are awesome. Was using Remington 220gr for bear, and they were great too but lost a little accuracy based on the bullet starting to get a bit long for the twist. The 200 was Goldilocks. At 75 yards, broke both shoulders and put papa bear night night.
It's funny with the 220s, most of the armies already learned that 100+ years ago and swapped their rounds from 190-200 grain down to 160-170 grain with a spitzer tip instead of round nose.
Spitzer boat tail is optimized for flight. I think the real reason old timers like the round nose is for terminal performance. They’ll never blow apart(too slow) and they expand well due to the shape. Also due to the low velocity and shape you get good weight retention and penetration. Tipped bullets that are bonded or monolithic give you the best of both worlds
Good content! As an Alaskan, and shooting, hunting in real life, I will tell you speed equals shock! 2900 -3000 ft lbs is the the magic number. Energy is the answer, Like where your thinking is! I need to look at those 172 grain. Keep up the good work.
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@@WHOTEEWHO jealous of the african hunt. Do it well...I know you will.
Will do my best!
Huge fan of the 150 tipped or what Hornady calls the SST. Moderate recoil but absolutely great performance out to 300-400.
I like the Barnes 168 TTSX.
Great video, WTW! Common sense ballistics are best. A lot of videos require a masters in physics (At least for me) to understand. Going to Limpopo in June myself!
Awesome! Good luck!
I’ve been hunting for 40 years with the 30-06, longest shot was 70 yards. South West Virginia. Remington core lokt 180 round nose.
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For deer good old lead nose cup and core do just fine
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I really want to see a video with the 7mm rem mag shooting federal terminal ascent 155gr. I'm also curious about the muzzle velocity from a 26in barrel compared to what's on the box
I like the 168 grain match 30/06 and 308
I use the 180 gr Remington
I’ve never had a guide/PH complain about a 30-06 with 165 Accubonds at 3000fps only recovered 1 bullet on 10-12 head of game. Enjoy SA. Had a ball last summer!!
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Been using 150 leadnose core lokt for many years ! One shot one deer ! 100 yd. 300yd .
Adam, you got the Dope on Wolf 180grn SP 7.62x54r through an M44
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I'd love to see all those numbers again but sighted in at 200 yards.
But you know me I'm mainly a traditional corlokt guy...
Yep I'm a 180 grain guy.
I'd also like you to hand load some 220 grain to those higher numbers.
I'm a big 220 but the round nose. Loved them because the deflected less in the brush
All factory will be loaded to 60,000 pressure. Your reloads can be 65,000 in the newer bolt guns. 190 ablr can be shot past 2900fps in a 24”. A 180 CL tipped can be shot to near 3000fps. 30-06 will carry 1500lbs of energy past 700 yards. It is a hyper efficient cartridge. Out of my testing it has scored high in my top 3 for efficiency.
Is more than efficient and don t need 70 grs of powder and no belt and 7 bullets for any application for where u live and hunt.
@@robertagusti3712 I would definitely say the best cartridge in existence. But belts have never been a problem. I don’t mind belts. But a 30-06 will do anything you need
My favourite RUclipsr talking about my favourite cartridge and who is coming to hunt with it in my country. 🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦
I took a beautiful black wildebeest with my 30-06 3 weeks ago. In fact I just had some of the mince of my Wilde Beest with my dinner.
Enjoy your trip to SA WhoTeeWho. Hope you have a successful hunt. Can't wait to see your videos. 🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦
Ps, in which province are you going to hunt?
No clue on province. Ha! I will be after a wildebeast with the 30-06 as well!
Ah ok. 😀
Shot mine with a Parker Hale 30-06 using Federal Fusion 180gr. My wildebeest ran about 30 meters before it went down. I made a short 5min video of our hunt. Let me know if you want to see it. In that I'll send you the link.
Interesting fun fact:
A 30-06 running 130gr TTSX at 3200fps will have less drop at 300m than a 270WIN running 129gr LRX at 3100fps.
Flat is good for hunting deer in open fields
I'm surprised at how well the Classic CL 180 grainer did. It seems that 180 is a sweet spot for the old girl. I'm debating on taking 180 S&Bs out this year.
Your drop with ur velocities are key components in ur rifle for ur doop of wat ur rifle gets vs the box. 50 fps to 80 fps difference down range can affect ur doop a bit with ur extreme spread in ur shots on the chronograph are cellulated. If ur trying to brake down the math in different adjustments of no quiet can to a quiet can added to ur muzzle at longer range diffences on impacts by a foot or by a few feet at longer range. Take a rifle to its max range where it shoots all over change the variables of things and see if ur rifle with those changes can improve those shot impacts
Need a video like this on the 300 win mag
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I love my 180 grn core lok psp.
probably the only thing with more fudd lore than the 30 06 behind it is the 45 acp.
Probably right
It's funny because the "two world wars!" should apply to the 30-06 far more than the .45 ACP because most people werent using .45 to win the war outside of the thompson and grease gun, the 1911 wouldn't be used that often.
@@WayStedYou yes that, and the millions of the deers taken with 30 06, speaks volumes.
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great video good luck in africa
I think that it's good to have the classics. 30-06 and 30-30 come to mind, but there are plenty of others. It's nice to have the new whiz bang cartridges, but those classics have that status for a reason.
I would luv to see 270 win 👍
.30-06 with 165 gr. Ballistic Tips by Nosler have killed many deer over my long years, never had one run, died as quick as they folded up dead. Just like turning off a light switch. Rifle is a sporterized M-1917 "Enfield", a WWI rifle.
Hey, who tee could you do a video chronographing your CVA Scout in .444 Marlin, please. I'm extremely curious what kind of velocity the .444 will get with 240gr and 265gr bullets out of the 25-inch barrel on the CVA Scout.
Good idea. Surprised I didn't already. I need to