I fell asleep I don't know how many times trying to make it through all 3 episodes. They have the timelines and story so messed up it's not even Tolkien anymore. It's sad. I wish Christopher was still here. He wouldn't have let these abominations of entertainment happen.
@@chrisrose_krii_lun_aus they waited for Christopher to die. That is the sad truth and it tells a lot about the creators of the Wrongs of Power. Those who have the power in the Tolkien Estate are interested only in $$$ and will agree for anything if Amazon give a few bucks more for that for that etc.
@@Tgruss Imagine having basically zero projects of note under your belt but getting handed the responsibility for a literal billion dollar project. I cannot even wrap my head around it. For every stupid entry level position out there you need education, years of experience and whatnot up the ass but these bumbling idiots just get to do something like this.
@typerexc it's not because you would do better that you would actually HAVE the job. The problem is there. In the mind of a naive child like myself (40 years ago), in order to write stuff on tv you had to be a good writer. Wrong! It's not the coherence and the elegance you can bring to a project that matter, it's how likable you are for others and how you manage to make them feel great by saying YES and YOU'RE RIGHT. And all this because there is money involved. Money is poison for art.
@@WilRJennings ok, he didn't call for a vote, but it was just like a Trump campaign event, only this time no Secret Service... to early for such a joke?
cause hes playing 3d chess, are you guys blind? give it time it will make sense lol i cant believe youre not seeing half the stuff, guess cause yall are focused on finding mistkakes
@@Welverin No, it does not look good. Terrible casting, terrible costumes, plenty of bad CGI, everything looks small and cheap. The Grey Havens are a joke to look at and so is the "ship" Círdan is sitting in. You know, THE shipwright. I have ZERO idea how anyone can claim that it "looks good".
I had a free trial of Prime, and I canceled it today just to send a message to Amazon about this show. You couldn't pay me enough money to make me watch it. Making Galadriel flirt with Sauron is disgusting; altering the lore of Tolkien's world to fit modern America's population for political reasons is disrespectful, and turning Middle-Earth into a moral relativism narrative instead of Good vs. Evil is repulsive.
@@JG-kq5el, well, it would be a powerful message if all people who dislike ROP, would cancel their Prime membership. Unfortunately that's probably not going to happen because most people don't care - which I totally understand. I want to say that I don't hate Amazon at all. I use it constantly for buying things which l need and I love my Kindle. And Amazon's customer service is still great. It's super uncomplicated to send stuff back stuff and get a refund. But I really hate how the producers and show-runners of ROP have handled and deflected justified criticism by attacking the fans, a and how they managed to distort a certain amount of reviews. For them the show is strictly a tool for attracting more Prime members who will buy more Amazon stuff. There is no artistic integrity at all! Cancelling our Prime membership is the only way to provide a feedback since bad reviews don't hurt them financially. I am not upset that ROP is a dud. For Tolkie fans it's a pity, but there are many bad tv-shows, and it would be silly to be upset about that fact of life. And nobody can force us to watch bad tv-shows, and when there isn't a sufficiently large audience the shows will be cancelled. It just happened with Disney's "The Accolyte". I didn't watch the show because l am not and never was a "Star Wars" fan. But l heard that the show is pretty awful. Most streaming services have to react when their content isn't watched by a sufficiently large audience. There are consequences! Only Amazon's streaming service is different! They don't have to react when parts of their content isn't well liked. They still earn money as long as their streaming service attracts new Prime members who will eventually buy Amazon's products. That construction really irks me, and that's the reason why l am willing to pay a bit more money for shipping when l use Amazon in order to buy the stuff l need.
I'm sure the writers were trying to show that Sauron has an affinity with evil when the fish-dragon doesn't attack him, though it doesn't explain why he has to use Black Speech to prevent the warg from attacking him. Bad writing again. Inconsistent at best. In Tolkien, Morgoth broke away from the other Valar because he desired to control life thereby bringing evil into Middle-Earth. Morgoth's second in command is Sauron, who is Maiar, and like Morgoth, betrays his kind to join forces with Morgoth. Tolkien does describe evil as stemming from Morgoth and to a lesser extent, Sauron. And when Sauron becomes the new Dark Lord after Morgoth's defeat, the show wants us to believe that evil is meant to recognise Sauron as its master. Though, once again none of this explains why the evil Orcs kill him at the beginning. Another contradiction.
The writers have their own version of Middle Earth and it seems like most fans are not on board with their rewriting basic parts of Tolkien’s vision. Reminds me of what happened with Star Wars “The Acolyte”: a show runner who decided to completely change a fundamental part of the fictional world, what the Jedi and Sith are like, and alienated most fans leading to a commercial flop. Something similar here.
To answer your question why did Gil Galad, Cirdan and Galadriel put their hands together, because it's another rememberberry from the Lord of the Rings prologue. Because this show can't stand on their own two feet at all.
3 месяца назад
that's why sauron looks like aragorn. for some reason they thought that was a good idea.
Old and ugly Elves, the Twilight version of Sauron, sociopathic pseudo-hobbts, a demented Gandalf arriving by a ridiculous means long before he is due, complete distortion of the concept of the rings.... it's all garbage. They seem to be intentionally trying to distort the public's idea of Tolkien's work because it doesn't fit their sensibilities and list of acceptable thoughts. It's premeditated desecration mixed with stupidity and an utter lack of talent.
From someone who’s seen the other two, the elves just are made to be dumber and dumber. It’s truly insulting to the elves. Celbrembor is made to be the DUMBEST dude who ever lived in ep 2 and 3. And the neumenor bs is forced.
The awkward posing of the hands with the three rings is their rip-off of the "three rings for the elven kings under the sky" shot in Galadriel's prologue in FOTR, but with ugly rings.
15:55 - You are so right here. I had an arguement with a guy on the Open Bar stream last night. His insistance was that the Elves were sad that Middle Earth is subjected to the effects of time. He never even mentioned the Fading. Cart and horse thing, but you nailed it here.
OH they have read him. That's the only way to get EVERYTHING wrong. You have to know what he wrote in order to twist every single detail. This show isn't incompetence, it's malice. They are twisting it on purpose.
Adar actually, seriously killed Sauron??! That's the dumbest freaking thing. I had hoped maybe this season was actually better, goodness... killing the physical body of Sauron should be a big, rare thing. Not done by some rando these writers made up for themselves.
He obviously didn't since he is still there. In the books I think he just goes into hiding but this is reminiscent of that other time when he lost his physical form and struggled for a thousand years to get back into the same plane of existence as everyone
I honestly thought you were joking in the beginning when you mentioned a spaghetti monster but damn HAHAHAHAHA what on earth are they doing! Thank you for watching this and making this review, I enjoyed your Season 1 reviews and takes more than watching the actual show and ever since I told myself I'll never watch season2 never ever. Keep up the good work!
I laughed my way through the first season. I was hoping this season would be the same, but I was just bored this time around. Here's hoping the bad will get funnier soon
I torrented it so I could hate watch it. It did not disappoint... especially episode 3 with the non-binary trans gay orc couple nursing a baby orc and not wanting to go to war. That was amazingly idiotic.
@@skuripandaburns3489 I didn’t even think of that I found it so weird. I didn’t know they could have babies but now that you say it, it makes sense. I thought they were made.
@ theonering The connection between Halbrand and the warg is another memberberries, like the hammer of Feanor in the first season. "Remember the first age? Sauron was lord of the wargs under Morgoth. Remeber" 😂
One huge gripe: the series establishes in Season 1 (and enforces it in Season2) that Gil Galad as the King does not like Galadriel, does not trust her, and she is portrayed as a commander of armies, not a lady with any political power or a leader of the people, and definitely not as one of the wise. And yet, she puts on one of the 3 rings, the most powerful magical items, and noone bats an eye, as if she is on the same level of power, respect and wisdom as Gil Galad and Cirdan. Not a problem in the books where she is a wise and powerful leader, but the show establishes her completely differently and this was idiotic. Gil Galad of the show would never allow Galadriel of the show to put on and keep the Ring.
I completely agree and had the same issue...I was like, Wait, they're fine with her just picking it up and putting it on, after how they feel about her?!
@DeanStorm28 don't forget Hugh Hefner... I mean Celebrimbor... dude looks 60, while Galadriel looks 20, when in lore she was born thousands of years earlier than him (not to even mention that elves in Tolkien lore don't age into old farts that should retire to Florida but remain eternally youthful in appearance).
Highlight from this episode, Dracula resurrection. And the recurring ability of every character in this show to teleport to anywhere in Middle-Earth. I said it once somewhere and I'll say again, fan fiction should be kept in a drawer for private entertainment not impose upon unsuspected strangers for psychological torture.
On the topic of the dirty little sociopaths: In season 1, we are shown the constellation page in their big book of grudges, which can only be seen in Rhûn. Most people took it as a plot device to move the characters along the story. Now we learn that the "walking song" has precise instructions of what landmarks to travel to and in what order so as to get there. This means that the walking plague of locusts that is the Harfoot tribe have gone there multiple times in the past, and it was a common enough journey that they *mapped it out* and kept that record in the oral history. And also that they know that is where the song leads, as there would be no other reason to tell Poppy to remember it. We also know that the new trailfinder after Lenny got knifed does not even know how to hold a map, so there is no way she would know that the song is a set of directions to a specific place. Unless it was written in their book "walking song is directions to Rhûn".
is this the scene in which Poppy said: I know a shortcut, halving the traveltime, but they do not know where to go exactly, just somewhere in Rhun while already in Rhun?
@@belegur8108 Prety much, yeah. They have a landmark list that will lead them somewhere, presumably a spot from where the specific stars can be seen. But we also know that river hobbits will be in this season, in Rhûn, so it could just lead there. Nobody knows.
I’m not watching season 2. Fool me once shame on Amazon, fool me twice shame on me. Watching your review is making go and watch the LOTR trilogy. I need to wash this icky off me 😂😂
At least the Elves of Lindon have acquired horses since the first season. That's _some_ improvement, anyway, though the writers still have no ability to portray time and distance.
We're supposed to believe the rings' power caused the sea to rock Cirdan's boat. I do think this is obvious, though the show is also filled with poorly executed scenes and plot contrivances and the overall experience of the show is extremely poor. And the major issue is that the Elven Rings were not even meant to be made by Celebrimbor at this time. He makes them in secret after Annatar leaves.
i think it is even worse... imho it was Ulmo, Valar of the oceans, who stopped Cirdan and in that gave him the blessings of the Valar to use the Rings...
@@belegur8108 You're right, that would be worse. Which means you're probably correct. But this show hasn't hit rock bottom yet; it is likely to get even worse as it goes on.
@@DeanStorm28 problem is, they have no rights for any Valar names afaik, so this scene works ONLY for people, who have a more broader knowledge of the Legendarium. But those people mostly despise it because of the constant lore breaking...
Not that we needed any further evidence of this, but this proves beyond the shadow of a doubt that the show runners absolutely do not comprehend what the Lord of the Rings is even about. It’s embarrassingly stupid.
I believe the shot of the elves holding their hands out together with the rings on was a direct recreation from a PJ flashback in TFOTR. I could be wrong as I have not verified it yet, but I had a strong sense that I’ve seen it before. I do agree it felt forced and awkward, but if it was a nod to PJ LOTR then it makes sense why they forced it in there.
If i needed another reason not to watch it, the insta creation of evil lands is probably enough of a taste of what's to come. Dropped s1 after 10 mins and never looked back. Listened to Phil dragash lotr audiobook instead and it was a much better use of my time.
Can someone explain what is the reason for Annatar being played by Charlie Vickers (the Halbrand actor), but with blond hair and a shave? We see Sauron here (in the backstory) played by a different actor. Then he's goo. Then he eats (?) a woman and takes the Halbrand form. He doesn't just regenerate his old form, the form he had when Adar and his orc friends killed him. So he's a shapeshifter (which is accurate to the books). But when he really, really needs to use his shapeshifting ability to conceal his identity during his machinations with Celebrimbor, he uses his great power to... change his hair colour and lose his stubble. Things any ordinary person on the run from the police could do in real life. The only bit of the shapeshift that's beyond an ordinary person with hair dye and a razor is the ears. Considering Sauron knows that Galadriel and everyone she's spoken to know that Halbrand is just Sauron in disguise, he'd surely abandon that old form entirely - his cover has been busted. What if Galadriel shows up at Celebrimbor's place and sees Halbrand, aka Sauron, the greatest foe of the elves, wandering around with a new hairdo, meddling in affairs of the utmost importance? Sauron's 'masterplan' falls apart immediately. So, why doesn't he just take an entirely new form? Why not have Charlie Vickers just for the backstory/flashbacks, or for scenes where he reverts back to Halbrand (if there are any), and an entirely new actor for Annatar? Does he want to get caught? This is bafflingly terrible stuff, no?
I dont know why you keep doing this to your self and still keeping up with that circus called RoP, but thank you for taking one for the team and making me laugh by summarizing the stupid things they come up with. I literaly had to stop wathcing this show in minute 20' of season 1 episode 1, couldnt NOT take 1 more minute of this charade.
The "bad pose" shot of the rings was actually an attempt at an homage of the shot in the prologue of The Fellowship of the Rings were you see the three elven rings from above.
Galadriel playing around in her first scene annoyed the hell out of me, then the contrast once she arrives to Gil-Galad to continue the shitshow she started in season one.
3 месяца назад
"I was deceived" That's it? The guy you chased for 1000 years for killing your brother was right next to you for months and all we get is a lame non-excuse then business as usual.
I think this show has bigger problem than "how?" its "why?" First season did not give explanation for why anything is happening. It's just a bunch of random characters and nonsense that seems to go nowhere. So far most of agency in bad stuff happening is on Galadriel and Aidar, Sauron didn't do shit. They could/should tie it all together with him being the mastermind all along, and it would be stupid and lame, but at this point I doubt they are capable in even doing that basic thing.
It shows how nihilistic the world is becoming that they're trying to make Sauron the downtrodden hero in this story. And it's working. Because Galadriel is so damn unlikable we're all more drawn to sauron's story. It's a microcosm of how shitty todays Society is
I like that this was a short and concise review. I do like the longer reviews. But so many other channels have +1 hr long reviews. And I don't know if I want to spend that much time on something I'm not going to watch ❤😅
What was stupid: When Sauron was "killed" in Ep.1, there was a huge explosion of energy out of the dude such that rocks miles away crumbled... and yet, Ardar and the orcs who were at the epicentre of the energy burst just went to sleep. Gee!
I used to have a Prime suscription for many years because l wanted to profit from free shipping. But when Prime became more expensive, and it's streaming service didn't offer anything which was attractive for me, l cancelled it. Two years ago when ROP was released, l contemplated to renew my Prime membership. But l didn't do it when ROP turned out to be such a complete disaster. And while it cost me some money because l need to buy a lot of articles for the production of my craft objects, and free Shoppingcenter would be great, l still have not renewed my Prime membership. I watched some episodes but I did it on the sly. I guess that l don't have to elaborate 😊
These showrunner are from bad robot. JJ Abrams helped them to get the job. I knew that they did not learn from their mistakes for season 2. I refuse to hate watch this show.
The writers wanted to show Galadriels connection with Elrond, they're friends for ages now she'd know where he would feel it's safe to go. They also wanted to portray how evil beings recognize Sauron as their master. They sonetimes have the right idea but they can't put it on the screen. That's why you need experienced showrunners and writers.
This show is atrocious. Not only does it take a dump on the legendary lore, but it is just... so.... bad. So boring, so uninspired and, I hate to use the word, but it is so cringe. The dialogues are horrible, everything is corny as hell and seems like a bad soap opera than anything else. Like seriously, how can this be approved dialogue? "Poppy and I used to make little buggy songs as they danced..." -> This has to have been written by AI.
I already like the first episode better than the whole last season, knowing who sauron is helps. The ride by galadriel and elrond is stupid silly though, 500 miles and a game or horse tag? But all in all I'm learning to not hate watch it, and just watch it as a fan fiction. Movies and television are going down the drain, and they're made for people to turn their brains off now, so I'm just watching it pretending it's a nice little spinoff show from people who are just having fun. I've given up hoping for quality media, and criticism does nothing but empower creators to make more dumb decisions. Happy watching!
Where was the horse and cart scene meant to be. After the War of Wrath few mortals existed that far north. It seemed a regular journey to judge by the cart tracks.
I get that the showrunners have been wrestling mightily on the *why* were the rings made in the first place in the books, because the reasoning is not touched a lot in there. This dude Annatar just shows up and they make the rings because they could, all the while it was Sauron's secret plan. In the series having the need to make the rings because the elves are in distress is plausible reason, even if the sequence was out of order from the books. And now the rest of the races also needs rings to be "saved". So I have to give some credit that they actually put in some amount of thought behind the reasoning. Just that the new plotlines & execution is quite bonkers and deviate heavily on how Tolkien would've written it.
Tolkien was a historian, he knew that history is always written by the victors. I think it would sadden him to see people take his books so literally when they are all either first person accounts or hymns and legends passed down for generations after the elves left middle earth
3 месяца назад
Oh yes I forgot volcano #2 which once again doesn't kill anybody.
He'll no 😅😅😅 that spaghetti monster is not sauron 😅 hat pathetic week .........killed by orcs😅😅😅😅😅 I'm sure now 100000% I'm better writer than those minions😅😅😅
How could she have a thing for Halbrand when they had no chemistry they had no moments in season 1. Now they want us to believe she has a thing for him when she is presented a the "I Don't Need No Man" type.
Episode 1 was somehow watchable, but episode 2 and and 3, oh boy, i was scrolling on my phone most of the time. Especially during the scenes of Numenor, Isildur, that black elf...so boring
The 2nd season is amazing!!! After 15 minutes I was sleeping like a baby. No more drugs for sleep for me 😅
That good? I will give it another chance XD RoP is the book that Tolkien never wrote
@@FalkZad for Tolkien to write a thing like the Wrongs of Power hmmm... He would have to loose 99% of his talent, knowledge, IQ and a few more things
I should try that remedy too.
I fell asleep I don't know how many times trying to make it through all 3 episodes. They have the timelines and story so messed up it's not even Tolkien anymore. It's sad. I wish Christopher was still here. He wouldn't have let these abominations of entertainment happen.
@@chrisrose_krii_lun_aus they waited for Christopher to die. That is the sad truth and it tells a lot about the creators of the Wrongs of Power. Those who have the power in the Tolkien Estate are interested only in $$$ and will agree for anything if Amazon give a few bucks more for that for that etc.
When that blob was sliding down the mountain I lost it laughing
@@chook1311 Disa or Symbiote Sauron? 😉
Good for you👏👏👏
Yes, that was so hilariously stupid. That scene is surely going to stand the test of time 🤣
i thought it was cool, some campiness in fantasy isnt a bad thing
It's lore accurate
5:52 "Let my people go". Sure King. All 25 of them.
It’s just so badly written. And that’s besides the fact they’re just making up an entirely new story.
Amazon original! 😁👍🏼
Should have just used AI
@@youokaybuddyfitness AI knows what an elf looks like, so they won't use that.
They would infest the AI with their poor writing @@youokaybuddyfitness
I can't believe people are getting paid good money to write this. PAID. In actual money. I can't. Clearly, I am in the wrong profession.
They are probably nepo babies so the job isn't open to normies
😂 the writing is awful. In one scene they must say High King 40 times
@@Tgruss probably bergs* and wear small hats
@@Tgruss Imagine having basically zero projects of note under your belt but getting handed the responsibility for a literal billion dollar project. I cannot even wrap my head around it. For every stupid entry level position out there you need education, years of experience and whatnot up the ass but these bumbling idiots just get to do something like this.
@typerexc it's not because you would do better that you would actually HAVE the job. The problem is there. In the mind of a naive child like myself (40 years ago), in order to write stuff on tv you had to be a good writer. Wrong! It's not the coherence and the elegance you can bring to a project that matter, it's how likable you are for others and how you manage to make them feel great by saying YES and YOU'RE RIGHT. And all this because there is money involved. Money is poison for art.
Absolutely 0 lore in this show at this point. Why is Sauron trying to convince orcs to vote for his dark lord campaign? Lol
Make Mordor Great Again
Your comment shows that you haven’t watched it.😂
@@WilRJennings ok, he didn't call for a vote, but it was just like a Trump campaign event, only this time no Secret Service... to early for such a joke?
cause hes playing 3d chess, are you guys blind? give it time it will make sense lol i cant believe youre not seeing half the stuff, guess cause yall are focused on finding mistkakes
@@MatejZizanovic with RoP you do not have to search for mistakes, they attack in a very large horde...
This show is like rubbing your eyes with sandpaper.
Hey! That's the one thing that isn't a problem. It looks good, it's everything else that's bad.
@@Welverincouldn’t care less how it “looks”
It feels very cheap and bad.
@@Welverin No, it does not look good.
Terrible casting, terrible costumes, plenty of bad CGI, everything looks small and cheap.
The Grey Havens are a joke to look at and so is the "ship" Círdan is sitting in. You know, THE shipwright.
I have ZERO idea how anyone can claim that it "looks good".
Let OUR Tolkien Go!!
I had a free trial of Prime, and I canceled it today just to send a message to Amazon about this show. You couldn't pay me enough money to make me watch it. Making Galadriel flirt with Sauron is disgusting; altering the lore of Tolkien's world to fit modern America's population for political reasons is disrespectful, and turning Middle-Earth into a moral relativism narrative instead of Good vs. Evil is repulsive.
I'm sure Amazon will be taking note. (They won't.)
@@JG-kq5el, well, it would be a powerful message if all people who dislike ROP, would cancel their Prime membership. Unfortunately that's probably not going to happen because most people don't care - which I totally understand.
I want to say that I don't hate Amazon at all. I use it constantly for buying things which l need and I love my Kindle. And Amazon's customer service is still great. It's super uncomplicated to send stuff back stuff and get a refund. But I really hate how the producers and show-runners of ROP have handled and deflected justified criticism by attacking the fans, a and how they managed to distort a certain amount of reviews. For them the show is strictly a tool for attracting more Prime members who will buy more Amazon stuff. There is no artistic integrity at all! Cancelling our Prime membership is the only way to provide a feedback since bad reviews don't hurt them financially.
I am not upset that ROP is a dud. For Tolkie fans it's a pity, but there are many bad tv-shows, and it would be silly to be upset about that fact of life. And nobody can force us to watch bad tv-shows, and when there isn't a sufficiently large audience the shows will be cancelled. It just happened with Disney's "The Accolyte". I didn't watch the show because l am not and never was a "Star Wars" fan. But l heard that the show is pretty awful. Most streaming services have to react when their content isn't watched by a sufficiently large audience. There are consequences! Only Amazon's streaming service is different! They don't have to react when parts of their content isn't well liked. They still earn money as long as their streaming service attracts new Prime members who will eventually buy Amazon's products. That construction really irks me, and that's the reason why l am willing to pay a bit more money for shipping when l use Amazon in order to buy the stuff l need.
I cancelled my Prime sub during season 1.
They won't listen! However, there are other things on Prime that are worth keeping the subscription for.
I'm sure the writers were trying to show that Sauron has an affinity with evil when the fish-dragon doesn't attack him, though it doesn't explain why he has to use Black Speech to prevent the warg from attacking him. Bad writing again. Inconsistent at best. In Tolkien, Morgoth broke away from the other Valar because he desired to control life thereby bringing evil into Middle-Earth. Morgoth's second in command is Sauron, who is Maiar, and like Morgoth, betrays his kind to join forces with Morgoth. Tolkien does describe evil as stemming from Morgoth and to a lesser extent, Sauron. And when Sauron becomes the new Dark Lord after Morgoth's defeat, the show wants us to believe that evil is meant to recognise Sauron as its master. Though, once again none of this explains why the evil Orcs kill him at the beginning. Another contradiction.
That's cause the show doesn't consider orcs evil.
@@kariverson1 Wouldn't surprise me. "They're just misunderstood." What garbage this show is.
The writers have their own version of Middle Earth and it seems like most fans are not on board with their rewriting basic parts of Tolkien’s vision.
Reminds me of what happened with Star Wars “The Acolyte”: a show runner who decided to completely change a fundamental part of the fictional world, what the Jedi and Sith are like, and alienated most fans leading to a commercial flop. Something similar here.
"I know you didn't actually watch it; I did that for you."
BUSTED.
(and... _Thank You_ )
It’s not Sauron, it’s Venom.
Exactly what I thought.
Exactly my first thoughts.. the second thing was Mind flayer from Stranger things
Quick note: Halbrand does not vow to serve Adar, he vows to serve "the Lord of Mordor". And that's about as clever as it gets.
To answer your question why did Gil Galad, Cirdan and Galadriel put their hands together, because it's another rememberberry from the Lord of the Rings prologue. Because this show can't stand on their own two feet at all.
that's why sauron looks like aragorn. for some reason they thought that was a good idea.
I actually like the transition scenes of the Rhun map going into the Rhun landscape of where the hobbits are now
Old and ugly Elves, the Twilight version of Sauron, sociopathic pseudo-hobbts, a demented Gandalf arriving by a ridiculous means long before he is due, complete distortion of the concept of the rings.... it's all garbage. They seem to be intentionally trying to distort the public's idea of Tolkien's work because it doesn't fit their sensibilities and list of acceptable thoughts. It's premeditated desecration mixed with stupidity and an utter lack of talent.
and middle-earth reduced to the size of what? 50 squaremiles? every place is just a short walk away
Little known fact - The "Machine" in The Princess Bride actually plays clips from Rings of Power.
😂
I canceled my Prime subscription. As motivation I put: Rings of Power.
From someone who’s seen the other two, the elves just are made to be dumber and dumber. It’s truly insulting to the elves. Celbrembor is made to be the DUMBEST dude who ever lived in ep 2 and 3. And the neumenor bs is forced.
Celembrimbor did get fooled by Sauron in the books, not really his fault against the master of deception
If you read the books, Sauron can change form.
The awkward posing of the hands with the three rings is their rip-off of the "three rings for the elven kings under the sky" shot in Galadriel's prologue in FOTR, but with ugly rings.
Bubblegum-maschines here in Germany often had such Rings as extra goodies... little ugly plastic rings with fake jewels...
At least Sauron, the Lord of Werewolves, being able to speak to and control a Warg makes sense. I can't fault that particular point.
15:55 - You are so right here. I had an arguement with a guy on the Open Bar stream last night. His insistance was that the Elves were sad that Middle Earth is subjected to the effects of time. He never even mentioned the Fading. Cart and horse thing, but you nailed it here.
there's no way any of the writers ever read Tolkien, they just skimmed the tables of contents
No they read the Wiki and are just making up shit
OH they have read him. That's the only way to get EVERYTHING wrong.
You have to know what he wrote in order to twist every single detail.
This show isn't incompetence, it's malice. They are twisting it on purpose.
@@unitron2005sad, bit i agree
When I saw him jump I thought of the fugitive. He pulled a Peter Pan right off this cliff.
I half expected him to fly away…
Or Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid...
I'm not a hater or a negative troll ..but I feel less interested after watching episode 1😮 and that dude is not sauron hell no😅😅😅
@@TrebizondMusic-cm6fp Thelma and Louise
Adar actually, seriously killed Sauron??!
That's the dumbest freaking thing. I had hoped maybe this season was actually better, goodness... killing the physical body of Sauron should be a big, rare thing. Not done by some rando these writers made up for themselves.
He obviously didn't since he is still there.
In the books I think he just goes into hiding but this is reminiscent of that other time when he lost his physical form and struggled for a thousand years to get back into the same plane of existence as everyone
I honestly thought you were joking in the beginning when you mentioned a spaghetti monster but damn HAHAHAHAHA what on earth are they doing! Thank you for watching this and making this review, I enjoyed your Season 1 reviews and takes more than watching the actual show and ever since I told myself I'll never watch season2 never ever. Keep up the good work!
Why did black jelly Sauron turn into a human after eating one but didn't turn into a rat after eating one?
Good point
A toast to those heroes and brave souls who are hate watching this disaster so we don't have to. Hail the victorious dead (inside)! 🍻
I’m watching it from a 3rd person streaming site I won’t give amazon the views lol
I laughed my way through the first season. I was hoping this season would be the same, but I was just bored this time around.
Here's hoping the bad will get funnier soon
@@raymondjones616 I just skip the harfoots and numo when they come on so basically I skipped all the 3rd episode lol
I torrented it so I could hate watch it. It did not disappoint... especially episode 3 with the non-binary trans gay orc couple nursing a baby orc and not wanting to go to war. That was amazingly idiotic.
@@skuripandaburns3489 I didn’t even think of that I found it so weird. I didn’t know they could have babies but now that you say it, it makes sense. I thought they were made.
@ theonering
The connection between Halbrand and the warg is another memberberries, like the hammer of Feanor in the first season.
"Remember the first age? Sauron was lord of the wargs under Morgoth. Remeber"
😂
One huge gripe: the series establishes in Season 1 (and enforces it in Season2) that Gil Galad as the King does not like Galadriel, does not trust her, and she is portrayed as a commander of armies, not a lady with any political power or a leader of the people, and definitely not as one of the wise. And yet, she puts on one of the 3 rings, the most powerful magical items, and noone bats an eye, as if she is on the same level of power, respect and wisdom as Gil Galad and Cirdan.
Not a problem in the books where she is a wise and powerful leader, but the show establishes her completely differently and this was idiotic. Gil Galad of the show would never allow Galadriel of the show to put on and keep the Ring.
I completely agree and had the same issue...I was like, Wait, they're fine with her just picking it up and putting it on, after how they feel about her?!
the most funny part about this is that cirdan is the oldest galadriel is 200years younger and gilgalad is the the youngest xD
@DeanStorm28 don't forget Hugh Hefner... I mean Celebrimbor... dude looks 60, while Galadriel looks 20, when in lore she was born thousands of years earlier than him (not to even mention that elves in Tolkien lore don't age into old farts that should retire to Florida but remain eternally youthful in appearance).
Highlight from this episode, Dracula resurrection. And the recurring ability of every character in this show to teleport to anywhere in Middle-Earth.
I said it once somewhere and I'll say again, fan fiction should be kept in a drawer for private entertainment not impose upon unsuspected strangers for psychological torture.
On the topic of the dirty little sociopaths: In season 1, we are shown the constellation page in their big book of grudges, which can only be seen in Rhûn. Most people took it as a plot device to move the characters along the story. Now we learn that the "walking song" has precise instructions of what landmarks to travel to and in what order so as to get there.
This means that the walking plague of locusts that is the Harfoot tribe have gone there multiple times in the past, and it was a common enough journey that they *mapped it out* and kept that record in the oral history. And also that they know that is where the song leads, as there would be no other reason to tell Poppy to remember it.
We also know that the new trailfinder after Lenny got knifed does not even know how to hold a map, so there is no way she would know that the song is a set of directions to a specific place. Unless it was written in their book "walking song is directions to Rhûn".
is this the scene in which Poppy said: I know a shortcut, halving the traveltime, but they do not know where to go exactly, just somewhere in Rhun while already in Rhun?
@@belegur8108 Prety much, yeah. They have a landmark list that will lead them somewhere, presumably a spot from where the specific stars can be seen. But we also know that river hobbits will be in this season, in Rhûn, so it could just lead there. Nobody knows.
I’m not watching season 2. Fool me once shame on Amazon, fool me twice shame on me. Watching your review is making go and watch the LOTR trilogy. I need to wash this icky off me 😂😂
Couldn’t help notice how many times they repeated lines from Lord of the Rings
Can’t wait for the in-depth review
At least the Elves of Lindon have acquired horses since the first season. That's _some_ improvement, anyway, though the writers still have no ability to portray time and distance.
We're supposed to believe the rings' power caused the sea to rock Cirdan's boat. I do think this is obvious, though the show is also filled with poorly executed scenes and plot contrivances and the overall experience of the show is extremely poor. And the major issue is that the Elven Rings were not even meant to be made by Celebrimbor at this time. He makes them in secret after Annatar leaves.
i think it is even worse... imho it was Ulmo, Valar of the oceans, who stopped Cirdan and in that gave him the blessings of the Valar to use the Rings...
@@belegur8108 You're right, that would be worse. Which means you're probably correct. But this show hasn't hit rock bottom yet; it is likely to get even worse as it goes on.
@@belegur8108 thats what i was thinking too atleast thats what they tried to show
@@danielscott8180 jup, i gave the episodes 2/10, 2/10 and 1/10, so still room for worse ratings 🤣
@@DeanStorm28 problem is, they have no rights for any Valar names afaik, so this scene works ONLY for people, who have a more broader knowledge of the Legendarium. But those people mostly despise it because of the constant lore breaking...
I can't wait to see Michael lose his mind 😅.
Not that we needed any further evidence of this, but this proves beyond the shadow of a doubt that the show runners absolutely do not comprehend what the Lord of the Rings is even about. It’s embarrassingly stupid.
I believe the shot of the elves holding their hands out together with the rings on was a direct recreation from a PJ flashback in TFOTR. I could be wrong as I have not verified it yet, but I had a strong sense that I’ve seen it before. I do agree it felt forced and awkward, but if it was a nod to PJ LOTR then it makes sense why they forced it in there.
If i needed another reason not to watch it, the insta creation of evil lands is probably enough of a taste of what's to come. Dropped s1 after 10 mins and never looked back. Listened to Phil dragash lotr audiobook instead and it was a much better use of my time.
Phil's narration is the best! It made my reading the books far easier.
What's truly surprising is that not only are there people who like the show, but that they think it's good.
They are entitled to like sh__
@@yurikendal4868 Yes, but don't pretend it's good and try to convince others it is.
Can someone explain what is the reason for Annatar being played by Charlie Vickers (the Halbrand actor), but with blond hair and a shave?
We see Sauron here (in the backstory) played by a different actor. Then he's goo. Then he eats (?) a woman and takes the Halbrand form. He doesn't just regenerate his old form, the form he had when Adar and his orc friends killed him. So he's a shapeshifter (which is accurate to the books). But when he really, really needs to use his shapeshifting ability to conceal his identity during his machinations with Celebrimbor, he uses his great power to... change his hair colour and lose his stubble. Things any ordinary person on the run from the police could do in real life. The only bit of the shapeshift that's beyond an ordinary person with hair dye and a razor is the ears.
Considering Sauron knows that Galadriel and everyone she's spoken to know that Halbrand is just Sauron in disguise, he'd surely abandon that old form entirely - his cover has been busted. What if Galadriel shows up at Celebrimbor's place and sees Halbrand, aka Sauron, the greatest foe of the elves, wandering around with a new hairdo, meddling in affairs of the utmost importance? Sauron's 'masterplan' falls apart immediately.
So, why doesn't he just take an entirely new form? Why not have Charlie Vickers just for the backstory/flashbacks, or for scenes where he reverts back to Halbrand (if there are any), and an entirely new actor for Annatar? Does he want to get caught? This is bafflingly terrible stuff, no?
Probably didn't want to pay another actor. Vickers probably has a multi season contract.
I dont know why you keep doing this to your self and still keeping up with that circus called RoP, but thank you for taking one for the team and making me laugh by summarizing the stupid things they come up with. I literaly had to stop wathcing this show in minute 20' of season 1 episode 1, couldnt NOT take 1 more minute of this charade.
I blame Simon Tolkien. I am absolutely convinced he is evil and wants to destroy his grandfather's legacy.
100% agree. He is the Melkor to Tolkien as Illuvatar.
"Let my people go" what in the actual hell? Having Halbrand / Sauron play Moses and come to Celebrimbor as Jesus?
"Mithril is the magic metal that's making it happen" - good alliteration! Even scans to Anglo-Saxon meter, I think. Keep it up!
3:13 the fern gully villain lol
This show is an insult to my intelligence...
The "bad pose" shot of the rings was actually an attempt at an homage of the shot in the prologue of The Fellowship of the Rings were you see the three elven rings from above.
sadly
I’m watching it and treating it like a comedy. It’s the only way to watch it!
We can't listen to anymore, even the description of this heresy is a tragedy. Ave to The One Ring though.❤
Just go watch a random scene of lord of the rings an see the difference and the feeling of a 24 or so years old movies omg
Galadriel playing around in her first scene annoyed the hell out of me, then the contrast once she arrives to Gil-Galad to continue the shitshow she started in season one.
"I was deceived" That's it? The guy you chased for 1000 years for killing your brother was right next to you for months and all we get is a lame non-excuse then business as usual.
They are focusing on the wrong things always. I haven't read too many Tolkien novels or works where his focus is the evil villain.
They don't have a choice . They made Galadriel so unlikable that we're all rooting for Sauron in this universe
Milli Vanilla was fun, but very generational. Not sure how many in your audience got it. 😉
I think this show has bigger problem than "how?" its "why?" First season did not give explanation for why anything is happening. It's just a bunch of random characters and nonsense that seems to go nowhere. So far most of agency in bad stuff happening is on Galadriel and Aidar, Sauron didn't do shit. They could/should tie it all together with him being the mastermind all along, and it would be stupid and lame, but at this point I doubt they are capable in even doing that basic thing.
Right, because that would nullify Galadriel's agency.
there isn't a plot there are mystery boxes like season 1
The sea told me the Rings of Power is a steaming pile of shit 💩
The sea is always right!
@@AriseInGondolin please... it is a Numenorean saying, so please use the correct nautical term... "The Sea is always Starboard!"
It shows how nihilistic the world is becoming that they're trying to make Sauron the downtrodden hero in this story. And it's working. Because Galadriel is so damn unlikable we're all more drawn to sauron's story.
It's a microcosm of how shitty todays Society is
Sauron is the only one I'm rooting for.
A legit case could be made for this property to become public domain, that based on the contrariness to Tolkien, it’s harmful to keep it copyrighted.
I like that this was a short and concise review. I do like the longer reviews. But so many other channels have +1 hr long reviews. And I don't know if I want to spend that much time on something I'm not going to watch ❤😅
What was stupid: When Sauron was "killed" in Ep.1, there was a huge explosion of energy out of the dude such that rocks miles away crumbled... and yet, Ardar and the orcs who were at the epicentre of the energy burst just went to sleep. Gee!
Come on Jonathan… you know why Sauron is a Beastmaster…he started life off as a cat!
Nori. Yeah. Or Ori. Or was it Dori?
I think is fori 🤔 or pori yeah 😅 I quess I will never eat spaghetti from now on 😅😅😅 after seeing that so called sauron 😅😅 amazon's sauron 😅😅😅
I used to have a Prime suscription for many years because l wanted to profit from free shipping. But when Prime became more expensive, and it's streaming service didn't offer anything which was attractive for me, l cancelled it. Two years ago when ROP was released, l contemplated to renew my Prime membership. But l didn't do it when ROP turned out to be such a complete disaster. And while it cost me some money because l need to buy a lot of articles for the production of my craft objects, and free Shoppingcenter would be great, l still have not renewed my Prime membership. I watched some episodes but I did it on the sly. I guess that l don't have to elaborate 😊
These showrunner are from bad robot. JJ Abrams helped them to get the job. I knew that they did not learn from their mistakes for season 2. I refuse to hate watch this show.
I’m glad you are falling on the sword so I don’t have to
The writers wanted to show Galadriels connection with Elrond, they're friends for ages now she'd know where he would feel it's safe to go. They also wanted to portray how evil beings recognize Sauron as their master.
They sonetimes have the right idea but they can't put it on the screen. That's why you need experienced showrunners and writers.
There's no chemistry and the writing / acting doesn't help
The snark level in this review is just gold!
This show is atrocious. Not only does it take a dump on the legendary lore, but it is just... so.... bad. So boring, so uninspired and, I hate to use the word, but it is so cringe. The dialogues are horrible, everything is corny as hell and seems like a bad soap opera than anything else.
Like seriously, how can this be approved dialogue?
"Poppy and I used to make little buggy songs as they danced..." -> This has to have been written by AI.
That thing you said about keeping the sun to the left or right? I never knew how that worked until you said that.😂
Hey look! Jonathan actually went back to the book 😃
When it comes to this show, whoever got paid, was overpaid.
I love the show!! It's fun to watch, even if it doesn't follow Tolkien exactly. I still like it, so don't ruin it for everyone who enjoys watching it.
I already like the first episode better than the whole last season, knowing who sauron is helps. The ride by galadriel and elrond is stupid silly though, 500 miles and a game or horse tag? But all in all I'm learning to not hate watch it, and just watch it as a fan fiction. Movies and television are going down the drain, and they're made for people to turn their brains off now, so I'm just watching it pretending it's a nice little spinoff show from people who are just having fun. I've given up hoping for quality media, and criticism does nothing but empower creators to make more dumb decisions. Happy watching!
And turning off your brain and watching slop just encourages these companies to continue making more slop.
Sauron turns into Belch of Earthbound fame!
Thank you for enduring the torture of watching this crap, your level of self sacrifice is admirable
As that black goo, Sauron becomes Caltiki the Immortal Monster.
Thank you for watching this so I don't have to. Not all heroes wear capes
Kudos for subjecting yourself to this drivel.
I don't even know why I watch it. What a mess. What crap.
Where was the horse and cart scene meant to be. After the War of Wrath few mortals existed that far north. It seemed a regular journey to judge by the cart tracks.
I get that the showrunners have been wrestling mightily on the *why* were the rings made in the first place in the books, because the reasoning is not touched a lot in there. This dude Annatar just shows up and they make the rings because they could, all the while it was Sauron's secret plan. In the series having the need to make the rings because the elves are in distress is plausible reason, even if the sequence was out of order from the books. And now the rest of the races also needs rings to be "saved". So I have to give some credit that they actually put in some amount of thought behind the reasoning. Just that the new plotlines & execution is quite bonkers and deviate heavily on how Tolkien would've written it.
Tolkien was a historian, he knew that history is always written by the victors.
I think it would sadden him to see people take his books so literally when they are all either first person accounts or hymns and legends passed down for generations after the elves left middle earth
Oh yes I forgot volcano #2 which once again doesn't kill anybody.
Ha, isn't "Let me people go" from Les Miserables? That's where my mind went when he said that line 😂
Best show ever. I thought nothing could top the Acolyte but I think this might do it!
16:00 the elves simply died of boredom.
“Hi, I’m Sauron, welcome to my Ted-talk”
What the heck is this show? It is so nonsensical and boring.
That orcs somehow need to be convinced of a philosophy to plunder, maim and kill.
Sauron the Venom
He'll no 😅😅😅 that spaghetti monster is not sauron 😅 hat pathetic week .........killed by orcs😅😅😅😅😅 I'm sure now 100000% I'm better writer than those minions😅😅😅
What are you even watching? 😅...
I thought this was a Tolkien channel! 😉
Rhun was an enemy nation. I would think nori would know that.
They had the Slow Horses guy because this is a pop culture show not an epic fantasy.
How could she have a thing for Halbrand when they had no chemistry they had no moments in season 1. Now they want us to believe she has a thing for him when she is presented a the "I Don't Need No Man" type.
Sauron as Dr. Dolittle? Interesting.
Sauron is basicly Venom 😂😂😂 ... they even cannot come up with their own physical interpretation of Sauron 🤣🤣
c'mon it was better than the first season I liked it, all some people do is complain.
Episode 1 was somehow watchable, but episode 2 and and 3, oh boy, i was scrolling on my phone most of the time. Especially during the scenes of Numenor, Isildur, that black elf...so boring
You poor, poor man.