Rings of Power Season 2, Episode 1 REVIEW - Let My Tolkien Go!

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  • Опубликовано: 30 окт 2024

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  • @wbfwbl8434
    @wbfwbl8434 2 месяца назад +83

    The 2nd season is amazing!!! After 15 minutes I was sleeping like a baby. No more drugs for sleep for me 😅

    • @FalkZad
      @FalkZad 2 месяца назад +2

      That good? I will give it another chance XD RoP is the book that Tolkien never wrote

    • @wbfwbl8434
      @wbfwbl8434 2 месяца назад +8

      @@FalkZad for Tolkien to write a thing like the Wrongs of Power hmmm... He would have to loose 99% of his talent, knowledge, IQ and a few more things

    • @ozi618
      @ozi618 2 месяца назад +2

      I should try that remedy too.

    • @chrisrose_krii_lun_aus
      @chrisrose_krii_lun_aus 2 месяца назад +4

      I fell asleep I don't know how many times trying to make it through all 3 episodes. They have the timelines and story so messed up it's not even Tolkien anymore. It's sad. I wish Christopher was still here. He wouldn't have let these abominations of entertainment happen.

    • @wbfwbl8434
      @wbfwbl8434 2 месяца назад +1

      @@chrisrose_krii_lun_aus they waited for Christopher to die. That is the sad truth and it tells a lot about the creators of the Wrongs of Power. Those who have the power in the Tolkien Estate are interested only in $$$ and will agree for anything if Amazon give a few bucks more for that for that etc.

  • @chook1311
    @chook1311 2 месяца назад +67

    When that blob was sliding down the mountain I lost it laughing

    • @mrcat3493
      @mrcat3493 2 месяца назад +5

      @@chook1311 Disa or Symbiote Sauron? 😉

    • @MOTA-Vation30
      @MOTA-Vation30 2 месяца назад +1

      Good for you👏👏👏

    • @richardviguurs5488
      @richardviguurs5488 2 месяца назад +2

      Yes, that was so hilariously stupid. That scene is surely going to stand the test of time 🤣

    • @AutomanicJack
      @AutomanicJack Месяц назад

      i thought it was cool, some campiness in fantasy isnt a bad thing

    • @thomasandrews3328
      @thomasandrews3328 Месяц назад +1

      It's lore accurate

  • @typerexc
    @typerexc 2 месяца назад +88

    I can't believe people are getting paid good money to write this. PAID. In actual money. I can't. Clearly, I am in the wrong profession.

    • @Tgruss
      @Tgruss 2 месяца назад +4

      They are probably nepo babies so the job isn't open to normies

    • @eoghainchops
      @eoghainchops 2 месяца назад +5

      😂 the writing is awful. In one scene they must say High King 40 times

    • @Cortesevasive
      @Cortesevasive 2 месяца назад

      @@Tgruss probably bergs* and wear small hats

    • @roflcopter4273
      @roflcopter4273 Месяц назад +1

      @@Tgruss Imagine having basically zero projects of note under your belt but getting handed the responsibility for a literal billion dollar project. I cannot even wrap my head around it. For every stupid entry level position out there you need education, years of experience and whatnot up the ass but these bumbling idiots just get to do something like this.

  • @eugene8498
    @eugene8498 2 месяца назад +41

    5:52 "Let my people go". Sure King. All 25 of them.

  • @Tw0tson
    @Tw0tson 2 месяца назад +54

    Absolutely 0 lore in this show at this point. Why is Sauron trying to convince orcs to vote for his dark lord campaign? Lol

    • @mrcat3493
      @mrcat3493 2 месяца назад +12

      Make Mordor Great Again

    • @WilRJennings
      @WilRJennings 2 месяца назад

      Your comment shows that you haven’t watched it.😂

    • @belegur8108
      @belegur8108 2 месяца назад +3

      @@WilRJennings ok, he didn't call for a vote, but it was just like a Trump campaign event, only this time no Secret Service... to early for such a joke?

    • @MatejZizanovic
      @MatejZizanovic 2 месяца назад

      cause hes playing 3d chess, are you guys blind? give it time it will make sense lol i cant believe youre not seeing half the stuff, guess cause yall are focused on finding mistkakes

    • @belegur8108
      @belegur8108 2 месяца назад +11

      @@MatejZizanovic with RoP you do not have to search for mistakes, they attack in a very large horde...

  • @ashyslashy9110
    @ashyslashy9110 2 месяца назад +42

    This show is like rubbing your eyes with sandpaper.

    • @Welverin
      @Welverin 2 месяца назад

      Hey! That's the one thing that isn't a problem. It looks good, it's everything else that's bad.

    • @ashyslashy9110
      @ashyslashy9110 2 месяца назад

      @@Welverincouldn’t care less how it “looks”
      It feels very cheap and bad.

    • @unitron2005
      @unitron2005 2 месяца назад +3

      @@Welverin No, it does not look good.
      Terrible casting, terrible costumes, plenty of bad CGI, everything looks small and cheap.
      The Grey Havens are a joke to look at and so is the "ship" Círdan is sitting in. You know, THE shipwright.
      I have ZERO idea how anyone can claim that it "looks good".

  • @typerexc
    @typerexc 2 месяца назад +33

    "I know you didn't actually watch it; I did that for you."
    BUSTED.
    (and... _Thank You_ )

  • @Nineteen1900Hundred
    @Nineteen1900Hundred 2 месяца назад +36

    It’s just so badly written. And that’s besides the fact they’re just making up an entirely new story.

    • @wolfmauler
      @wolfmauler 2 месяца назад +1

      Amazon original! 😁👍🏼

    • @youokaybuddyfitness
      @youokaybuddyfitness 2 месяца назад +3

      Should have just used AI

    • @unitron2005
      @unitron2005 2 месяца назад +2

      @@youokaybuddyfitness AI knows what an elf looks like, so they won't use that.

    • @yurikendal4868
      @yurikendal4868 2 месяца назад

      They would infest the AI with their poor writing ​@@youokaybuddyfitness

  • @FalkZad
    @FalkZad 2 месяца назад +33

    Let OUR Tolkien Go!!

  • @danielscott8180
    @danielscott8180 2 месяца назад +18

    I'm sure the writers were trying to show that Sauron has an affinity with evil when the fish-dragon doesn't attack him, though it doesn't explain why he has to use Black Speech to prevent the warg from attacking him. Bad writing again. Inconsistent at best. In Tolkien, Morgoth broke away from the other Valar because he desired to control life thereby bringing evil into Middle-Earth. Morgoth's second in command is Sauron, who is Maiar, and like Morgoth, betrays his kind to join forces with Morgoth. Tolkien does describe evil as stemming from Morgoth and to a lesser extent, Sauron. And when Sauron becomes the new Dark Lord after Morgoth's defeat, the show wants us to believe that evil is meant to recognise Sauron as its master. Though, once again none of this explains why the evil Orcs kill him at the beginning. Another contradiction.

    • @kariverson1
      @kariverson1 2 месяца назад

      That's cause the show doesn't consider orcs evil.

    • @danielscott8180
      @danielscott8180 2 месяца назад +1

      @@kariverson1 Wouldn't surprise me. "They're just misunderstood." What garbage this show is.

  • @infocus
    @infocus 2 месяца назад +3

    Quick note: Halbrand does not vow to serve Adar, he vows to serve "the Lord of Mordor". And that's about as clever as it gets.

  • @--Sama-
    @--Sama- 2 месяца назад +78

    I had a free trial of Prime, and I canceled it today just to send a message to Amazon about this show. You couldn't pay me enough money to make me watch it. Making Galadriel flirt with Sauron is disgusting; altering the lore of Tolkien's world to fit modern America's population for political reasons is disrespectful, and turning Middle-Earth into a moral relativism narrative instead of Good vs. Evil is repulsive.

    • @JG-kq5el
      @JG-kq5el 2 месяца назад +6

      I'm sure Amazon will be taking note. (They won't.)

    • @sabineb.5616
      @sabineb.5616 2 месяца назад

      ​@@JG-kq5el, well, it would be a powerful message if all people who dislike ROP, would cancel their Prime membership. Unfortunately that's probably not going to happen because most people don't care - which I totally understand.
      I want to say that I don't hate Amazon at all. I use it constantly for buying things which l need and I love my Kindle. And Amazon's customer service is still great. It's super uncomplicated to send stuff back stuff and get a refund. But I really hate how the producers and show-runners of ROP have handled and deflected justified criticism by attacking the fans, a and how they managed to distort a certain amount of reviews. For them the show is strictly a tool for attracting more Prime members who will buy more Amazon stuff. There is no artistic integrity at all! Cancelling our Prime membership is the only way to provide a feedback since bad reviews don't hurt them financially.
      I am not upset that ROP is a dud. For Tolkie fans it's a pity, but there are many bad tv-shows, and it would be silly to be upset about that fact of life. And nobody can force us to watch bad tv-shows, and when there isn't a sufficiently large audience the shows will be cancelled. It just happened with Disney's "The Accolyte". I didn't watch the show because l am not and never was a "Star Wars" fan. But l heard that the show is pretty awful. Most streaming services have to react when their content isn't watched by a sufficiently large audience. There are consequences! Only Amazon's streaming service is different! They don't have to react when parts of their content isn't well liked. They still earn money as long as their streaming service attracts new Prime members who will eventually buy Amazon's products. That construction really irks me, and that's the reason why l am willing to pay a bit more money for shipping when l use Amazon in order to buy the stuff l need.

    • @hiddentape2911
      @hiddentape2911 2 месяца назад +1

      I cancelled my Prime sub during season 1.

    • @meganfoster8838
      @meganfoster8838 Месяц назад

      They won't listen! However, there are other things on Prime that are worth keeping the subscription for.

  • @violetannguerin3503
    @violetannguerin3503 Месяц назад +2

    If you read the books, Sauron can change form.

  • @Kleshumara
    @Kleshumara 2 месяца назад +10

    The writers have their own version of Middle Earth and it seems like most fans are not on board with their rewriting basic parts of Tolkien’s vision.
    Reminds me of what happened with Star Wars “The Acolyte”: a show runner who decided to completely change a fundamental part of the fictional world, what the Jedi and Sith are like, and alienated most fans leading to a commercial flop. Something similar here.

  • @Meluska007
    @Meluska007 2 месяца назад +7

    To answer your question why did Gil Galad, Cirdan and Galadriel put their hands together, because it's another rememberberry from the Lord of the Rings prologue. Because this show can't stand on their own two feet at all.

    •  2 месяца назад

      that's why sauron looks like aragorn. for some reason they thought that was a good idea.

  • @antonio.martins
    @antonio.martins 2 месяца назад +24

    It’s not Sauron, it’s Venom.

    • @Book-Mark
      @Book-Mark 2 месяца назад +3

      Exactly what I thought.

    • @mattciller4651
      @mattciller4651 2 месяца назад +1

      Exactly my first thoughts.. the second thing was Mind flayer from Stranger things

  • @KevDaly
    @KevDaly 2 месяца назад +19

    Old and ugly Elves, the Twilight version of Sauron, sociopathic pseudo-hobbts, a demented Gandalf arriving by a ridiculous means long before he is due, complete distortion of the concept of the rings.... it's all garbage. They seem to be intentionally trying to distort the public's idea of Tolkien's work because it doesn't fit their sensibilities and list of acceptable thoughts. It's premeditated desecration mixed with stupidity and an utter lack of talent.

    • @belegur8108
      @belegur8108 2 месяца назад +5

      and middle-earth reduced to the size of what? 50 squaremiles? every place is just a short walk away

  • @adrmark
    @adrmark 2 месяца назад +5

    I canceled my Prime subscription. As motivation I put: Rings of Power.

  • @WeakestAvenger
    @WeakestAvenger 2 месяца назад +5

    Adar actually, seriously killed Sauron??!
    That's the dumbest freaking thing. I had hoped maybe this season was actually better, goodness... killing the physical body of Sauron should be a big, rare thing. Not done by some rando these writers made up for themselves.

    • @Antoine-x2f
      @Antoine-x2f Месяц назад

      He obviously didn't since he is still there.
      In the books I think he just goes into hiding but this is reminiscent of that other time when he lost his physical form and struggled for a thousand years to get back into the same plane of existence as everyone

  • @937jmoney3
    @937jmoney3 2 месяца назад +9

    From someone who’s seen the other two, the elves just are made to be dumber and dumber. It’s truly insulting to the elves. Celbrembor is made to be the DUMBEST dude who ever lived in ep 2 and 3. And the neumenor bs is forced.

    • @Antoine-x2f
      @Antoine-x2f Месяц назад

      Celembrimbor did get fooled by Sauron in the books, not really his fault against the master of deception

  • @parker2520
    @parker2520 2 месяца назад +16

    A toast to those heroes and brave souls who are hate watching this disaster so we don't have to. Hail the victorious dead (inside)! 🍻

    • @player9195
      @player9195 2 месяца назад

      I’m watching it from a 3rd person streaming site I won’t give amazon the views lol

    • @raymondjones616
      @raymondjones616 2 месяца назад

      I laughed my way through the first season. I was hoping this season would be the same, but I was just bored this time around.
      Here's hoping the bad will get funnier soon

    • @player9195
      @player9195 2 месяца назад +1

      @@raymondjones616 I just skip the harfoots and numo when they come on so basically I skipped all the 3rd episode lol

    • @skuripandaburns3489
      @skuripandaburns3489 2 месяца назад

      I torrented it so I could hate watch it. It did not disappoint... especially episode 3 with the non-binary trans gay orc couple nursing a baby orc and not wanting to go to war. That was amazingly idiotic.

    • @player9195
      @player9195 2 месяца назад

      @@skuripandaburns3489 I didn’t even think of that I found it so weird. I didn’t know they could have babies but now that you say it, it makes sense. I thought they were made.

  • @brucecairns1982
    @brucecairns1982 2 месяца назад +10

    The awkward posing of the hands with the three rings is their rip-off of the "three rings for the elven kings under the sky" shot in Galadriel's prologue in FOTR, but with ugly rings.

    • @belegur8108
      @belegur8108 2 месяца назад +4

      Bubblegum-maschines here in Germany often had such Rings as extra goodies... little ugly plastic rings with fake jewels...

  • @Ol_Red_Beard
    @Ol_Red_Beard Месяц назад +2

    I actually like the transition scenes of the Rhun map going into the Rhun landscape of where the hobbits are now

  • @shimtest
    @shimtest 2 месяца назад +13

    there's no way any of the writers ever read Tolkien, they just skimmed the tables of contents

    • @bz6046
      @bz6046 2 месяца назад

      No they read the Wiki and are just making up shit

    • @unitron2005
      @unitron2005 2 месяца назад +4

      OH they have read him. That's the only way to get EVERYTHING wrong.
      You have to know what he wrote in order to twist every single detail.
      This show isn't incompetence, it's malice. They are twisting it on purpose.

    • @Grandwigg
      @Grandwigg 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@@unitron2005sad, bit i agree

  • @unitron2005
    @unitron2005 2 месяца назад +2

    Little known fact - The "Machine" in The Princess Bride actually plays clips from Rings of Power.

  • @papabearlives9995
    @papabearlives9995 2 месяца назад +9

    When I saw him jump I thought of the fugitive. He pulled a Peter Pan right off this cliff.

    • @hisdudeness8328
      @hisdudeness8328 2 месяца назад +2

      I half expected him to fly away…

    • @TrebizondMusic-cm6fp
      @TrebizondMusic-cm6fp 2 месяца назад +2

      Or Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid...

    • @fabysorin3579
      @fabysorin3579 2 месяца назад +3

      I'm not a hater or a negative troll ..but I feel less interested after watching episode 1😮 and that dude is not sauron hell no😅😅😅

    •  2 месяца назад

      @@TrebizondMusic-cm6fp Thelma and Louise

  • @otaku-sempai2197
    @otaku-sempai2197 2 месяца назад +1

    At least Sauron, the Lord of Werewolves, being able to speak to and control a Warg makes sense. I can't fault that particular point.

  • @ClaymoreLinx
    @ClaymoreLinx 2 месяца назад +3

    15:55 - You are so right here. I had an arguement with a guy on the Open Bar stream last night. His insistance was that the Elves were sad that Middle Earth is subjected to the effects of time. He never even mentioned the Fading. Cart and horse thing, but you nailed it here.

  • @skuripandaburns3489
    @skuripandaburns3489 2 месяца назад +2

    One huge gripe: the series establishes in Season 1 (and enforces it in Season2) that Gil Galad as the King does not like Galadriel, does not trust her, and she is portrayed as a commander of armies, not a lady with any political power or a leader of the people, and definitely not as one of the wise. And yet, she puts on one of the 3 rings, the most powerful magical items, and noone bats an eye, as if she is on the same level of power, respect and wisdom as Gil Galad and Cirdan.
    Not a problem in the books where she is a wise and powerful leader, but the show establishes her completely differently and this was idiotic. Gil Galad of the show would never allow Galadriel of the show to put on and keep the Ring.

    • @Kiirs5
      @Kiirs5 2 месяца назад

      I completely agree and had the same issue...I was like, Wait, they're fine with her just picking it up and putting it on, after how they feel about her?!

    • @DeanStorm28
      @DeanStorm28 2 месяца назад

      the most funny part about this is that cirdan is the oldest galadriel is 200years younger and gilgalad is the the youngest xD

    • @skuripandaburns3489
      @skuripandaburns3489 2 месяца назад

      @DeanStorm28 don't forget Hugh Hefner... I mean Celebrimbor... dude looks 60, while Galadriel looks 20, when in lore she was born thousands of years earlier than him (not to even mention that elves in Tolkien lore don't age into old farts that should retire to Florida but remain eternally youthful in appearance).

  • @FalkZad
    @FalkZad 2 месяца назад +7

    I honestly thought you were joking in the beginning when you mentioned a spaghetti monster but damn HAHAHAHAHA what on earth are they doing! Thank you for watching this and making this review, I enjoyed your Season 1 reviews and takes more than watching the actual show and ever since I told myself I'll never watch season2 never ever. Keep up the good work!

  • @danielscott8180
    @danielscott8180 2 месяца назад +5

    We're supposed to believe the rings' power caused the sea to rock Cirdan's boat. I do think this is obvious, though the show is also filled with poorly executed scenes and plot contrivances and the overall experience of the show is extremely poor. And the major issue is that the Elven Rings were not even meant to be made by Celebrimbor at this time. He makes them in secret after Annatar leaves.

    • @belegur8108
      @belegur8108 2 месяца назад

      i think it is even worse... imho it was Ulmo, Valar of the oceans, who stopped Cirdan and in that gave him the blessings of the Valar to use the Rings...

    • @danielscott8180
      @danielscott8180 2 месяца назад

      @@belegur8108 You're right, that would be worse. Which means you're probably correct. But this show hasn't hit rock bottom yet; it is likely to get even worse as it goes on.

    • @DeanStorm28
      @DeanStorm28 2 месяца назад

      @@belegur8108 thats what i was thinking too atleast thats what they tried to show

    • @belegur8108
      @belegur8108 2 месяца назад +1

      @@danielscott8180 jup, i gave the episodes 2/10, 2/10 and 1/10, so still room for worse ratings 🤣

    • @belegur8108
      @belegur8108 2 месяца назад

      @@DeanStorm28 problem is, they have no rights for any Valar names afaik, so this scene works ONLY for people, who have a more broader knowledge of the Legendarium. But those people mostly despise it because of the constant lore breaking...

  • @lorenzocastellini9986
    @lorenzocastellini9986 2 месяца назад +1

    @ theonering
    The connection between Halbrand and the warg is another memberberries, like the hammer of Feanor in the first season.
    "Remember the first age? Sauron was lord of the wargs under Morgoth. Remeber"
    😂

  • @skuripandaburns3489
    @skuripandaburns3489 2 месяца назад +5

    I blame Simon Tolkien. I am absolutely convinced he is evil and wants to destroy his grandfather's legacy.

  • @RB-sz9gv
    @RB-sz9gv 2 месяца назад +7

    The sea told me the Rings of Power is a steaming pile of shit 💩

    • @AriseInGondolin
      @AriseInGondolin 2 месяца назад +1

      The sea is always right!

    • @belegur8108
      @belegur8108 2 месяца назад +1

      @@AriseInGondolin please... it is a Numenorean saying, so please use the correct nautical term... "The Sea is always Starboard!"

  • @ozi618
    @ozi618 2 месяца назад +4

    Why did black jelly Sauron turn into a human after eating one but didn't turn into a rat after eating one?

    • @jjOHNji
      @jjOHNji 2 месяца назад +1

      Good point

  • @AlexisLopez-pb8ms
    @AlexisLopez-pb8ms 2 месяца назад +4

    I’m not watching season 2. Fool me once shame on Amazon, fool me twice shame on me. Watching your review is making go and watch the LOTR trilogy. I need to wash this icky off me 😂😂

  • @rosedust-e1o
    @rosedust-e1o 2 месяца назад +1

    Highlight from this episode, Dracula resurrection. And the recurring ability of every character in this show to teleport to anywhere in Middle-Earth.
    I said it once somewhere and I'll say again, fan fiction should be kept in a drawer for private entertainment not impose upon unsuspected strangers for psychological torture.

  • @Welverin
    @Welverin 2 месяца назад +3

    What's truly surprising is that not only are there people who like the show, but that they think it's good.

    • @yurikendal4868
      @yurikendal4868 2 месяца назад

      They are entitled to like sh__

    • @Welverin
      @Welverin 2 месяца назад

      @@yurikendal4868 Yes, but don't pretend it's good and try to convince others it is.

  • @majkus
    @majkus 2 месяца назад +3

    At least the Elves of Lindon have acquired horses since the first season. That's _some_ improvement, anyway, though the writers still have no ability to portray time and distance.

  • @Gorbz
    @Gorbz 2 месяца назад +2

    On the topic of the dirty little sociopaths: In season 1, we are shown the constellation page in their big book of grudges, which can only be seen in Rhûn. Most people took it as a plot device to move the characters along the story. Now we learn that the "walking song" has precise instructions of what landmarks to travel to and in what order so as to get there.
    This means that the walking plague of locusts that is the Harfoot tribe have gone there multiple times in the past, and it was a common enough journey that they *mapped it out* and kept that record in the oral history. And also that they know that is where the song leads, as there would be no other reason to tell Poppy to remember it.
    We also know that the new trailfinder after Lenny got knifed does not even know how to hold a map, so there is no way she would know that the song is a set of directions to a specific place. Unless it was written in their book "walking song is directions to Rhûn".

    • @belegur8108
      @belegur8108 2 месяца назад +1

      is this the scene in which Poppy said: I know a shortcut, halving the traveltime, but they do not know where to go exactly, just somewhere in Rhun while already in Rhun?

    • @Gorbz
      @Gorbz 2 месяца назад

      @@belegur8108 Prety much, yeah. They have a landmark list that will lead them somewhere, presumably a spot from where the specific stars can be seen. But we also know that river hobbits will be in this season, in Rhûn, so it could just lead there. Nobody knows.

  • @mat3714
    @mat3714 2 месяца назад +4

    If i needed another reason not to watch it, the insta creation of evil lands is probably enough of a taste of what's to come. Dropped s1 after 10 mins and never looked back. Listened to Phil dragash lotr audiobook instead and it was a much better use of my time.

    • @thehoneybunempress1664
      @thehoneybunempress1664 2 месяца назад

      Phil's narration is the best! It made my reading the books far easier.

  • @lm7_gio
    @lm7_gio 2 месяца назад +4

    I dont know why you keep doing this to your self and still keeping up with that circus called RoP, but thank you for taking one for the team and making me laugh by summarizing the stupid things they come up with. I literaly had to stop wathcing this show in minute 20' of season 1 episode 1, couldnt NOT take 1 more minute of this charade.

  • @NovRen19
    @NovRen19 2 месяца назад +5

    We can't listen to anymore, even the description of this heresy is a tragedy. Ave to The One Ring though.❤

    • @fabysorin3579
      @fabysorin3579 2 месяца назад

      Just go watch a random scene of lord of the rings an see the difference and the feeling of a 24 or so years old movies omg

  • @faustoutloud
    @faustoutloud 2 месяца назад +6

    I can't wait to see Michael lose his mind 😅.

  • @TheCincinnatiDad
    @TheCincinnatiDad 2 месяца назад +1

    Not that we needed any further evidence of this, but this proves beyond the shadow of a doubt that the show runners absolutely do not comprehend what the Lord of the Rings is even about. It’s embarrassingly stupid.

  • @rednaskela4830
    @rednaskela4830 2 месяца назад +3

    Galadriel playing around in her first scene annoyed the hell out of me, then the contrast once she arrives to Gil-Galad to continue the shitshow she started in season one.

    •  2 месяца назад

      "I was deceived" That's it? The guy you chased for 1000 years for killing your brother was right next to you for months and all we get is a lame non-excuse then business as usual.

  • @RandallBalls
    @RandallBalls 2 месяца назад +4

    It shows how nihilistic the world is becoming that they're trying to make Sauron the downtrodden hero in this story. And it's working. Because Galadriel is so damn unlikable we're all more drawn to sauron's story.
    It's a microcosm of how shitty todays Society is

    • @cklambo
      @cklambo 2 месяца назад

      Sauron is the only one I'm rooting for.

  • @BigdogGaming-sm3lj
    @BigdogGaming-sm3lj 2 месяца назад +2

    These showrunner are from bad robot. JJ Abrams helped them to get the job. I knew that they did not learn from their mistakes for season 2. I refuse to hate watch this show.

  • @linnaelinw2063
    @linnaelinw2063 2 месяца назад +9

    Come on Jonathan… you know why Sauron is a Beastmaster…he started life off as a cat!

  • @greenbrightly
    @greenbrightly 2 месяца назад +1

    I’m watching it and treating it like a comedy. It’s the only way to watch it!

  • @frozen1762
    @frozen1762 2 месяца назад +4

    I think this show has bigger problem than "how?" its "why?" First season did not give explanation for why anything is happening. It's just a bunch of random characters and nonsense that seems to go nowhere. So far most of agency in bad stuff happening is on Galadriel and Aidar, Sauron didn't do shit. They could/should tie it all together with him being the mastermind all along, and it would be stupid and lame, but at this point I doubt they are capable in even doing that basic thing.

    • @jmgonzalez4
      @jmgonzalez4 2 месяца назад

      Right, because that would nullify Galadriel's agency.

    •  2 месяца назад

      there isn't a plot there are mystery boxes like season 1

  • @henrikg1388
    @henrikg1388 2 месяца назад +1

    Milli Vanilla was fun, but very generational. Not sure how many in your audience got it. 😉

  • @hotfuzz0328
    @hotfuzz0328 2 месяца назад +5

    They are focusing on the wrong things always. I haven't read too many Tolkien novels or works where his focus is the evil villain.

    • @RandallBalls
      @RandallBalls 2 месяца назад +1

      They don't have a choice . They made Galadriel so unlikable that we're all rooting for Sauron in this universe

  • @mikeyyoon
    @mikeyyoon 2 месяца назад +1

    "Let my people go" what in the actual hell? Having Halbrand / Sauron play Moses and come to Celebrimbor as Jesus?

  • @SB-yp8vp
    @SB-yp8vp 2 месяца назад +2

    Couldn’t help notice how many times they repeated lines from Lord of the Rings

  • @marcelsf23br
    @marcelsf23br 2 месяца назад +3

    This show is atrocious. Not only does it take a dump on the legendary lore, but it is just... so.... bad. So boring, so uninspired and, I hate to use the word, but it is so cringe. The dialogues are horrible, everything is corny as hell and seems like a bad soap opera than anything else.
    Like seriously, how can this be approved dialogue?
    "Poppy and I used to make little buggy songs as they danced..." -> This has to have been written by AI.

  • @trevorbyrne4668
    @trevorbyrne4668 2 месяца назад +1

    Can someone explain what is the reason for Annatar being played by Charlie Vickers (the Halbrand actor), but with blond hair and a shave?
    We see Sauron here (in the backstory) played by a different actor. Then he's goo. Then he eats (?) a woman and takes the Halbrand form. He doesn't just regenerate his old form, the form he had when Adar and his orc friends killed him. So he's a shapeshifter (which is accurate to the books). But when he really, really needs to use his shapeshifting ability to conceal his identity during his machinations with Celebrimbor, he uses his great power to... change his hair colour and lose his stubble. Things any ordinary person on the run from the police could do in real life. The only bit of the shapeshift that's beyond an ordinary person with hair dye and a razor is the ears.
    Considering Sauron knows that Galadriel and everyone she's spoken to know that Halbrand is just Sauron in disguise, he'd surely abandon that old form entirely - his cover has been busted. What if Galadriel shows up at Celebrimbor's place and sees Halbrand, aka Sauron, the greatest foe of the elves, wandering around with a new hairdo, meddling in affairs of the utmost importance? Sauron's 'masterplan' falls apart immediately.
    So, why doesn't he just take an entirely new form? Why not have Charlie Vickers just for the backstory/flashbacks, or for scenes where he reverts back to Halbrand (if there are any), and an entirely new actor for Annatar? Does he want to get caught? This is bafflingly terrible stuff, no?

    • @cklambo
      @cklambo 2 месяца назад

      Probably didn't want to pay another actor. Vickers probably has a multi season contract.

  • @CelticLiving
    @CelticLiving 2 месяца назад +1

    I believe the shot of the elves holding their hands out together with the rings on was a direct recreation from a PJ flashback in TFOTR. I could be wrong as I have not verified it yet, but I had a strong sense that I’ve seen it before. I do agree it felt forced and awkward, but if it was a nod to PJ LOTR then it makes sense why they forced it in there.

  • @ShadQuakeFix
    @ShadQuakeFix 2 месяца назад +6

    This show is an insult to my intelligence...

  • @chook1311
    @chook1311 2 месяца назад +4

    Can’t wait for the in-depth review

  • @smoothwookienookie5912
    @smoothwookienookie5912 2 месяца назад +1

    I already like the first episode better than the whole last season, knowing who sauron is helps. The ride by galadriel and elrond is stupid silly though, 500 miles and a game or horse tag? But all in all I'm learning to not hate watch it, and just watch it as a fan fiction. Movies and television are going down the drain, and they're made for people to turn their brains off now, so I'm just watching it pretending it's a nice little spinoff show from people who are just having fun. I've given up hoping for quality media, and criticism does nothing but empower creators to make more dumb decisions. Happy watching!

    • @GavEfc01
      @GavEfc01 Месяц назад

      And turning off your brain and watching slop just encourages these companies to continue making more slop.

  • @sabineb.5616
    @sabineb.5616 2 месяца назад +1

    I used to have a Prime suscription for many years because l wanted to profit from free shipping. But when Prime became more expensive, and it's streaming service didn't offer anything which was attractive for me, l cancelled it. Two years ago when ROP was released, l contemplated to renew my Prime membership. But l didn't do it when ROP turned out to be such a complete disaster. And while it cost me some money because l need to buy a lot of articles for the production of my craft objects, and free Shoppingcenter would be great, l still have not renewed my Prime membership. I watched some episodes but I did it on the sly. I guess that l don't have to elaborate 😊

  • @raynerstuelgalid
    @raynerstuelgalid 2 месяца назад

    What was stupid: When Sauron was "killed" in Ep.1, there was a huge explosion of energy out of the dude such that rocks miles away crumbled... and yet, Ardar and the orcs who were at the epicentre of the energy burst just went to sleep. Gee!

  • @TrebizondMusic-cm6fp
    @TrebizondMusic-cm6fp 2 месяца назад

    "Mithril is the magic metal that's making it happen" - good alliteration! Even scans to Anglo-Saxon meter, I think. Keep it up!

  • @sarupadilla
    @sarupadilla 2 месяца назад

    The "bad pose" shot of the rings was actually an attempt at an homage of the shot in the prologue of The Fellowship of the Rings were you see the three elven rings from above.

  • @kariverson1
    @kariverson1 2 месяца назад

    The writers wanted to show Galadriels connection with Elrond, they're friends for ages now she'd know where he would feel it's safe to go. They also wanted to portray how evil beings recognize Sauron as their master.
    They sonetimes have the right idea but they can't put it on the screen. That's why you need experienced showrunners and writers.

    • @mikeyyoon
      @mikeyyoon 2 месяца назад +1

      There's no chemistry and the writing / acting doesn't help

  • @CarlSanford76
    @CarlSanford76 2 месяца назад +2

    I don't even know why I watch it. What a mess. What crap.

  • @jaymay7957
    @jaymay7957 2 месяца назад +3

    3:13 the fern gully villain lol

  • @feanorkun7077
    @feanorkun7077 2 месяца назад

    I like that this was a short and concise review. I do like the longer reviews. But so many other channels have +1 hr long reviews. And I don't know if I want to spend that much time on something I'm not going to watch ❤😅

  • @terrenceappleby9315
    @terrenceappleby9315 2 месяца назад

    As that black goo, Sauron becomes Caltiki the Immortal Monster.

  • @violetannguerin3503
    @violetannguerin3503 Месяц назад +1

    I love the show!! It's fun to watch, even if it doesn't follow Tolkien exactly. I still like it, so don't ruin it for everyone who enjoys watching it.

  •  2 месяца назад

    Oh yes I forgot volcano #2 which once again doesn't kill anybody.

  • @OwenWai
    @OwenWai 2 месяца назад +1

    Thank you for watching this so I don't have to. Not all heroes wear capes

  • @mikeyyoon
    @mikeyyoon 2 месяца назад +1

    Where is the review of episode 2 and 3? This guy is behind on content.

  • @skeeterd5150
    @skeeterd5150 2 месяца назад +2

    I’m glad you are falling on the sword so I don’t have to

  • @Walkingman.45
    @Walkingman.45 2 месяца назад

    A legit case could be made for this property to become public domain, that based on the contrariness to Tolkien, it’s harmful to keep it copyrighted.

  • @mrcat3493
    @mrcat3493 2 месяца назад +3

    “Hi, I’m Sauron, welcome to my Ted-talk”
    What the heck is this show? It is so nonsensical and boring.

    • @deanzaZZR
      @deanzaZZR 2 месяца назад

      That orcs somehow need to be convinced of a philosophy to plunder, maim and kill.

  • @wolfmauler
    @wolfmauler 2 месяца назад +5

    What are you even watching? 😅...
    I thought this was a Tolkien channel! 😉

  • @unitron2005
    @unitron2005 2 месяца назад +2

    When it comes to this show, whoever got paid, was overpaid.

  • @doravee
    @doravee 2 месяца назад +1

    Sauron turns into Belch of Earthbound fame!

  • @markepictitus2012
    @markepictitus2012 2 месяца назад +4

    This show is shockingly bad. Amateurs would do better than this. This is outright the worst show ever made and it's not even close. I've never seen something so bad

    • @fabysorin3579
      @fabysorin3579 2 месяца назад +2

      Now go watch lord of the rings and see the difference 😅😅😅 even the grass looks better 😅😅

    • @markepictitus2012
      @markepictitus2012 2 месяца назад +1

      @fabysorin3579 agreed. I even loved the Hobbot movies. I know some didn't like those but I assume many have to go back and watch those and see how good they really are too.

    • @Estupendomagnifico1
      @Estupendomagnifico1 Месяц назад +1

      @@markepictitus2012 Agreed!

  • @sunsin1592
    @sunsin1592 2 месяца назад +4

    Kudos for subjecting yourself to this drivel.

  • @HannuMatilainenFIN
    @HannuMatilainenFIN 2 месяца назад

    I get that the showrunners have been wrestling mightily on the *why* were the rings made in the first place in the books, because the reasoning is not touched a lot in there. This dude Annatar just shows up and they make the rings because they could, all the while it was Sauron's secret plan. In the series having the need to make the rings because the elves are in distress is plausible reason, even if the sequence was out of order from the books. And now the rest of the races also needs rings to be "saved". So I have to give some credit that they actually put in some amount of thought behind the reasoning. Just that the new plotlines & execution is quite bonkers and deviate heavily on how Tolkien would've written it.

  • @NudlemanJones
    @NudlemanJones 2 месяца назад

    I will say that the first two episodes have generally been *less* egregious than anything from Season 1 . . .
    IF you accept it as pure fanfiction, it makes it a tiny bit more palatable.
    However, as you said, there were no hilarious stand-out lines (yet) like in Season 1, but I laughed out loud when Gil-Galad was questioning Galadriel, grew exasperated, and ended with a hilariously-delivered "WHO IS THAT MAN?"

  • @keepyourhandsup6856
    @keepyourhandsup6856 2 месяца назад +3

    Don't get me wrong i totally get there are lots of issues with the show but really getting the feeling that this guy would crap on ANYTHING and that's kinda his gimmick.

  • @illyrusemperor9278
    @illyrusemperor9278 2 месяца назад +1

    Episode 1 was somehow watchable, but episode 2 and and 3, oh boy, i was scrolling on my phone most of the time. Especially during the scenes of Numenor, Isildur, that black elf...so boring

  • @paulafrida
    @paulafrida 2 месяца назад +2

    "We' re going in circles",where have I heard this famous line🤔?
    Oh yes, inThe Lord Of The Rings, the real one, made by Peter Jackson that I watch at least 5 times a year and read the books every year.

  • @Meluska007
    @Meluska007 2 месяца назад +3

    My little bit to (not)Gandalf and Nori - there are too many parallels with Lotr... "Going in circles?" Didn't Sam said it to Frodo when they tried to reach Mordor? And then how her friend will appear.. I will not let you go alone I followed you. Another paralel with Sam and Frodo. The writers can't get imaginative even if their life depended on it. 🤦🏻‍♀️

    •  2 месяца назад

      well they have bugs to eat but no water

  • @typerexc
    @typerexc 2 месяца назад +2

    Nori. Yeah. Or Ori. Or was it Dori?

    • @fabysorin3579
      @fabysorin3579 2 месяца назад

      I think is fori 🤔 or pori yeah 😅 I quess I will never eat spaghetti from now on 😅😅😅 after seeing that so called sauron 😅😅 amazon's sauron 😅😅😅

  • @haleyschreiter9746
    @haleyschreiter9746 2 месяца назад +2

    Hey look! Jonathan actually went back to the book 😃

  • @richardviguurs5488
    @richardviguurs5488 2 месяца назад

    Thank you for enduring the torture of watching this crap, your level of self sacrifice is admirable

  • @jackwei22
    @jackwei22 2 месяца назад

    Yes PJ you did everything entirely accurate without changing the lore 100% true to Tolkien's vision 😂 .

  • @belegur8108
    @belegur8108 2 месяца назад +1

    no sense for Time, Space or Plausability in this show... not an ounce... only Tolkiens names for Characters and places, everything els is just so randomly put together and doesn't make any sense...

  • @jamesreynolds7334
    @jamesreynolds7334 Месяц назад

    Ha, isn't "Let me people go" from Les Miserables? That's where my mind went when he said that line 😂

  • @Antoine-x2f
    @Antoine-x2f Месяц назад

    Tolkien was a historian, he knew that history is always written by the victors.
    I think it would sadden him to see people take his books so literally when they are all either first person accounts or hymns and legends passed down for generations after the elves left middle earth

  • @mattciller4651
    @mattciller4651 2 месяца назад

    Sauron is basicly Venom 😂😂😂 ... they even cannot come up with their own physical interpretation of Sauron 🤣🤣

  • @AriseInGondolin
    @AriseInGondolin 2 месяца назад

    Well, one thing is for certain. If you want someone to write bad fan-fiction then these showrunners are top-tier.

  • @PrincessPattyPumpkin
    @PrincessPattyPumpkin 2 месяца назад

    That thing you said about keeping the sun to the left or right? I never knew how that worked until you said that.😂

  • @Vertigo-66
    @Vertigo-66 2 месяца назад +4

    Commander Guyladriel!!! That was so cringe!!
    This was painful to watch overall!!
    What an insult to the professor!! They don't care at all!
    The Tolkien Estate is also to blame!

  • @christopherclark5604
    @christopherclark5604 2 месяца назад +1

    I would pay hard earned bucks to see someone blind side qb sack Theo. My gawd has there ever been a more useless character?