Two suggestions for anyone making their own. First, use a high quality construction adhesive on the gussets. Secondly, add nails to the gussets. A few screws are good to clamp thy gusset into the adhesive and get them set, but the shear strength of a nail is important.
Agreed - Screws are not suitable for this project. Nails are ductile (have the ability to bend without shearing) unlike Screws (excepting some expensive types) and you'll never see a Professional using them in this situation.
I am building the same shed I am going to use it as my house down in Alford, Fla. My is going to be 14 X 24, My floor is going to be 3/4 green ply wood, My walls are 2X6 The flooring for the 2nd floor is 3/4 plywood and that will be laying on 2X6 floor joist, My walls are 8 foot, Love your video , Thanks Jon
Just stumbled on your channel as I was contemplating a Gambrel roof for a goat barn addition I am looking at and appreciated how you went about explaining things very thoroughly. The kicker for me, and a motivator for me to subscribe, where the Crocs. Lol. I can seriously relate, but you have to loose the socks. You should see the reptilian tan lines I have on my feet this summer after all of our projects where I was stumbling around in some cheap Walmart knock-offs. With everything going on, it has easily been one of out most productive years as we build up our homestead here in Wisc., which currently consists of a few goats (Nigerian Dwarfs), maybe 25 chickens and 4 ducks. The plan is to breed the goats and have some kids in the spring and probably the next animal we add will be either pigs or meat birds. It is a process, as you likely know, so one foot in front of the other. I will check out some more videos as I am curious how the barn build will go. I am also curious long term how the deck-like flooring with the gaps will work for you. I could see pellets and bedding getting through and building up below. One of the lovely things they do not tell you with larger livestock is the rodents you attract. Our current barn, maybe 16' x 20', is my old tractor shed the wife annexed and it has a gravel floor. Relatively easy to clean out, but keeping the rodents out is always a battle, even with cats. Best of luck with the channel.
CHRIS M. , the socks keep my feet clean 😂. Thanks for watching! I plan on covering the floor with rubber drainage mats. They have small holes. Then on top of that will be straw bedding and pine shavings. I was thinking about a crushed stone “floor” with stall mats. It’s common here with horse barns but that has its own set of problems after a number of years. I can easily put in a solid floor if this doesn’t work out so not a real biggie. Thanks so much for subscribing and checking out my other videos. Much appreciated. Good luck with your place!
I learned more from this video than all 10 others i watched im building a small woodshop thats gonna be identical to your goat barn except using a rubber flooring thanks a ton from SE Ohio
I believe it is better to put the vertical beams on the two sides of the joints to maximize the space. People choose the gambrel roof for larger space.
Not being rude, but... Don’t use screws on trusses. Trusses put high sheer stress on fasteners. Which means you should be using nails. It will probably be okay, and last a good while, but it’s generally a bad practice to use screws where sheer stress is going to be high.
Plus screws are thinner in cross section, and a lot of them are brittle alloy. Sudden failure possibility as one snaps under snow load and they test cascade fail with the shock. “Static Object Syndrome”
ON YOUR KNEES KNAVE!!! Actually, if you throw a 2x4 stud or two, on a couple of sawhorses, then put your plywood on top of that, at least it will be waist high. Just don't cut the 2x4s.
So I want to build a 14x50 shed, just like this. how do I determine how many trusses I need? are they 24 inches on center? thanks and great video. extremely helpful.
If your house has true gambrel rafters they’ll be locked together with timber techniques: big wood pins and mortised knees lock the structural chords together. Much stronger than a gusseted truss like these (which are fine on a building this size). So if yours is bracketed and pinned plywood in tension on nails in shear may not be adequate. If it’s a 2x8 gambrel chord with 1x6 or 1x8 overlaid knee braces plywood may be fine. Use const adhesive or polyurethane “door and window” to glue the gussets / knees to the cords in addition to nailing them good and plenty. Use 3/4 ply or 1x6 gussetting if that’s your chosen method
It’s a program that allows you to design in 3D. There are free versions of it. It gives lengths, angle measurements etc as you place the pieces into your sketch.
Hi, if you’re coming off the sides you would run your porch rafters next to the gambrel trusses resting them on the top plate. Attach to the trusses and into the top plate with structural screws. Off the front or back you could just run a ledger board across the barn and use that for your rafters. Hope this helps.
I watched your videos on extending the rafters from the side with gambrel roof rafters. I'm trying to find out how to match up the front and rear roofs. Trying to figure out how you would match those roofs with the side roofs? Would you happen to have a video explaining that? Lol I've been searching for awhile now with no luck thank you
Thanks for watching. I draw up my own plans except for the trusses where if you search “gambrel trusses and the width you are looking for you can find the angles and length of members that you need” if you have access to “sketch up” that can also create your truss member numbers.
You don’t need plans. Just braided ice fishing line, a tape, and a pencil. Run your radius with the string, mark the 45s and 90 (those are your intersects), scribe your patterns off the sectors; cut, test, fit from those.
W C Bailey Jr , 14x20. No plans other than what I sketch out myself except for the trusses which I found online. The entire build can be found in my playlists. “Step by step series on building the perfect barn for small homesteads” thanks for watching. Any other questions just ask!
Thanks for watching. Is there harm in trying to be as precise as possible? Finish carpenters and cabinet makers that cannot be as precise as 1/32nd aren’t working to the true potential of accuracy. The measurements were mathematically contrived and as a mathematician it’s very difficult to say “close enough”.
I hear and agree! I'm OCD, so it adds a layer of impossibility for me, but yes you are correct! My grandfather worked in Oak Ridge in the Manhattan Project, and engineers there specified a cut at 35/10000ths. His micrometer only went to 1000ths. Quandary. Your build is beautiful, and has helped me a lot.
If you knew how to do it so quickly why in the world would you watch a video on it ? You have wayyyy too much time on your hands! 🤣Please leave a link to your video so I can learn a more efficient way for beginners to make them.
Two suggestions for anyone making their own. First, use a high quality construction adhesive on the gussets. Secondly, add nails to the gussets. A few screws are good to clamp thy gusset into the adhesive and get them set, but the shear strength of a nail is important.
Agreed - Screws are not suitable for this project. Nails are ductile (have the ability to bend without shearing) unlike Screws (excepting some expensive types) and you'll never see a Professional using them in this situation.
Thanks so much for the tutorial and excellent editing. I’m building my own storage shed and this is exactly what I needed.
Never to old to learn something, watched fully, enjoyed your how to video, like, thanks, Gene
Best video I’ve seen!
I am building the same shed I am going to use it as my house down in Alford, Fla. My is going to be 14 X 24, My floor is going to be 3/4 green ply wood, My walls are 2X6 The flooring for the 2nd floor is 3/4 plywood and that will be laying on 2X6 floor joist, My walls are 8 foot, Love your video , Thanks Jon
Nice! Would love to see pics of your new house when it’s done!!
Great job man. Really appreciate this
ezekiel pennington , Thanks for watching I really appreciate your time!
Just stumbled on your channel as I was contemplating a Gambrel roof for a goat barn addition I am looking at and appreciated how you went about explaining things very thoroughly. The kicker for me, and a motivator for me to subscribe, where the Crocs. Lol. I can seriously relate, but you have to loose the socks. You should see the reptilian tan lines I have on my feet this summer after all of our projects where I was stumbling around in some cheap Walmart knock-offs. With everything going on, it has easily been one of out most productive years as we build up our homestead here in Wisc., which currently consists of a few goats (Nigerian Dwarfs), maybe 25 chickens and 4 ducks. The plan is to breed the goats and have some kids in the spring and probably the next animal we add will be either pigs or meat birds. It is a process, as you likely know, so one foot in front of the other. I will check out some more videos as I am curious how the barn build will go. I am also curious long term how the deck-like flooring with the gaps will work for you. I could see pellets and bedding getting through and building up below. One of the lovely things they do not tell you with larger livestock is the rodents you attract. Our current barn, maybe 16' x 20', is my old tractor shed the wife annexed and it has a gravel floor. Relatively easy to clean out, but keeping the rodents out is always a battle, even with cats. Best of luck with the channel.
CHRIS M. , the socks keep my feet clean 😂. Thanks for watching! I plan on covering the floor with rubber drainage mats. They have small holes. Then on top of that will be straw bedding and pine shavings. I was thinking about a crushed stone “floor” with stall mats. It’s common here with horse barns but that has its own set of problems after a number of years. I can easily put in a solid floor if this doesn’t work out so not a real biggie.
Thanks so much for subscribing and checking out my other videos. Much appreciated. Good luck with your place!
Very very good video ..
I learned more from this video than all 10 others i watched im building a small woodshop thats gonna be identical to your goat barn except using a rubber flooring thanks a ton from SE Ohio
Thank you so much for watching and the kind comments.
Great video l will used your method to build mine
Thanks so much for watching. I really appreciate your time!
Your video is helping me build 24x24 trusses for the first time. I need your help with the loftbdo you have video thanks brother.
Thanks for watching. I have 2 videos on building a loft. One is in the series you’re watching and one is in the playhouse series.
Awesome video. Thanks.
Love this My plan is to do the same thing,,,
Great job.
Great job of explaining! I would like to see you use a speed square to mark your angles, if only to demystify the use of it.
Thanks for watching. I have a couple projects lined up in the spring and summer where I will be doing just that.
I bisected an angle today....boy are my arms tired.
Are they get this 30-second stuff at? Kind of screwed-up friends do you have their my friend.
I believe it is better to put the vertical beams on the two sides of the joints to maximize the space. People choose the gambrel roof for larger space.
You can clamp a stop on your saw at 5 feet 4 1/4 ....that way, all your rafters will be exact same length, no need to measure each one.
Thanks so much for watching and for the time saver! I appreciate both.
Not being rude, but...
Don’t use screws on trusses.
Trusses put high sheer stress on fasteners.
Which means you should be using nails.
It will probably be okay, and last a good while, but it’s generally a bad practice to use screws where sheer stress is going to be high.
Plus screws are thinner in cross section, and a lot of them are brittle alloy. Sudden failure possibility as one snaps under snow load and they test cascade fail with the shock.
“Static Object Syndrome”
ON YOUR KNEES KNAVE!!!
Actually, if you throw a 2x4 stud or two, on a couple of sawhorses, then put your plywood on top of that, at least it will be waist high. Just don't cut the 2x4s.
So I want to build a 14x50 shed, just like this. how do I determine how many trusses I need? are they 24 inches on center? thanks and great video. extremely helpful.
24 inches on center is fine since the slopes are so steep. 50 divided by 2 is 25. Add one. You need 26 trusses. Thanks for watching!
Love the video! Please help. I'm really struggling to find the numbers for my 16 foot wide shed. Any help would be greatly appreciated 🙏
Try these sites:
www.easyrafters.com/Roofs/gambrel
www.blocklayer.com/roof/gambrel
Thanks 👌🙏
I own a 117 year old gambrel roof house that needs some restoration. Would the same design and technique upscale from a barn to a house?
Thanks for watching. I’m not qualified to answer your question. I feel good about small buildings but have no experience on large.
If your house has true gambrel rafters they’ll be locked together with timber techniques: big wood pins and mortised knees lock the structural chords together. Much stronger than a gusseted truss like these (which are fine on a building this size). So if yours is bracketed and pinned plywood in tension on nails in shear may not be adequate.
If it’s a 2x8 gambrel chord with 1x6 or 1x8 overlaid knee braces plywood may be fine.
Use const adhesive or polyurethane “door and window” to glue the gussets / knees to the cords in addition to nailing them good and plenty. Use 3/4 ply or 1x6 gussetting if that’s your chosen method
How is the miter saw holding up? Had a couple people tell me Harbor Fright's tools have greatly improved. I WANT ONE!!!
Love it...no problems.
@@LancoAmish I don't need it. Just want it!😜
What is "sketch up"? Is that a cad program or something? Sorry, new to building here.
It’s a program that allows you to design in 3D. There are free versions of it. It gives lengths, angle measurements etc as you place the pieces into your sketch.
Has that Dewalt nailer held up? If so, I'm headed to HDepot now.
Still going strong. Not that I've used it daily but I have put about 10,000 nails through it.
What are the cut angles ?
22.5
How would you build a porch roof on the gambrel barn roof?
Hi, if you’re coming off the sides you would run your porch rafters next to the gambrel trusses resting them on the top plate. Attach to the trusses and into the top plate with structural screws. Off the front or back you could just run a ledger board across the barn and use that for your rafters. Hope this helps.
I watched your videos on extending the rafters from the side with gambrel roof rafters. I'm trying to find out how to match up the front and rear roofs. Trying to figure out how you would match those roofs with the side roofs? Would you happen to have a video explaining that? Lol I've been searching for awhile now with no luck thank you
Where did you get the plans for the barn?
Thanks for watching. I draw up my own plans except for the trusses where if you search “gambrel trusses and the width you are looking for you can find the angles and length of members that you need” if you have access to “sketch up” that can also create your truss member numbers.
You don’t need plans. Just braided ice fishing line, a tape, and a pencil.
Run your radius with the string, mark the 45s and 90 (those are your intersects), scribe your patterns off the sectors; cut, test, fit from those.
What size is your shed? Where did you get the plans from?
W C Bailey Jr , 14x20. No plans other than what I sketch out myself except for the trusses which I found online. The entire build can be found in my playlists. “Step by step series on building the perfect barn for small homesteads” thanks for watching. Any other questions just ask!
I worked in steel, and we only measured to 16ths. No way you can cut wood to 32nds. But if you can, please post a video to teach me.
Thanks for watching. Is there harm in trying to be as precise as possible? Finish carpenters and cabinet makers that cannot be as precise as 1/32nd aren’t working to the true potential of accuracy. The measurements were mathematically contrived and as a mathematician it’s very difficult to say “close enough”.
I hear and agree! I'm OCD, so it adds a layer of impossibility for me, but yes you are correct! My grandfather worked in Oak Ridge in the Manhattan Project, and engineers there specified a cut at 35/10000ths. His micrometer only went to 1000ths. Quandary.
Your build is beautiful, and has helped me a lot.
Well you just made that three times harder than what it really is thanks anyway
If you knew how to do it so quickly why in the world would you watch a video on it ? You have wayyyy too much time on your hands! 🤣Please leave a link to your video so I can learn a more efficient way for beginners to make them.
Bleh...motion sickness. Can't handle the head mounted camera swinging around wildly. Made it to 5:48 and my stomach started to warn me.
That’s one of the issues when working and videoing on ones own. Gotta be chief cook and bottle washer.