Xbox Series X / S Controller Teardown - Comparison with Xbox One Controller
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- Опубликовано: 5 авг 2024
- Hi, this video shows a complete teardown of the new Microsoft Xbox Series S controller. I compare it to the older Xbox One controller (Model 1708, the one with Bluetooth) to see what has changed on the inside.
The white Series S (Model 1914) is the same controller as the black Series X controller apart from the colour, so this teardown applies to both.
I look at and compare the analog sticks, the headphone jack, rumble motors, D-Pad, and other stuff along the way.
I hope you enjoy it.
Thanks, Vince :-) 
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Got my series X on Tuesday and have been raving about how much better the controller is than the previous one. Placebo effect at work 😆
Did they fixed lb/rb and thumb sticks?
@@1_K_1__ what is their problem?
Meh, they playstation did more impressive changes to the controller ...OH and STILL AA batteries LOLOL?????????????
@Mathieu Ionescoux-TremblayWell thank baby Jesus I must be lucky because my PS5 controller I mean I haven't had to charge it all day (playing for hours throughout the day). Still a lot better than needing to deal with AAs
@@lovernatz I personally love having the battery pack that charges and the option of batteries. Because when it does after a couple hours I can just put batteries in...
I love the design of the Xbox controller, it always felt perfect for my hands and I'm actually glad that they didnt went crazy with it.
But I do wish that someday these default controllers come with some sort of buttons in the back, nothing fancy like we have on the Elite versions, just two simple buttons in each side, would be nice.
Look at a battle beaver.
What would you do with those buttons?
@@TheRealist1. it depends on the game, but usually i like to remap any o the A B Y or X buttons to the back or shoulders. The less I have to remove my thumbs from the thumbsticks, the better.
@@TheRealist1.make em work
@@lfish21. get a keyboard
Thanks for doing this. I'm so glad the buttons and joysticks are interchangeable as I have so many extras from multiple mods to my controllers
Absolutely brilliant video! Ive been looking for a video of a comparison between the two that goes into detail on both of them to see what the difference is before I buy the new one to customize it. Thanks a ton!
Great video, I was going to tear it down on live stream with the console but ended up skipping the controller because it felt like it was going to break lol
Thanks for the video. The foam pad where the trigger bottoms out on my series x/s controller wasn't in the right spot and caused it to stick. This told me where to start taking the controller apart and even what bit to use, very informative.
I am a repair Tech I work on all kinds of controllers and I do say this new controller will be a breeze to work on thanks for a good video.
A lot of people says this controller is the same as the old one.
Well I received it a few days ago and let me tell you what I noticed.
The general shape of the controller is pretty much the same but the controller is a little bit smaller, the handles are thinner so this time the controller doesn't feel too big like the previous model, moreover the rough texture is amazing since it gives a very good grip and feeling to the hands.
The more noticeable changes are of course the d-pad, which is much much more comfortable, accurate and beautiful.
The new innovation is the new "share" button, if you think about it in the future it can bring a total revolution for this controller since we have a new button to use, of course on the Xbox you can use it only for sharing pics etc... but on pc with remapping softwares there are endless possibilities, on the elite controller there was already a button there which was used to switch from one config to another one, with remapping we could do the same on this controller too or even more.
In conclusion I think this controller is very underestimated but what Microsoft basically did was:
- reduce dimensions of the controller and give it a rough texture to make it more comfortable
- the feeble pieces were changed with new thicker ones (the bumpers have been upgraded and now are thicker than the previous ones)
- the triggers now have a rough texture and their movement is slightly shorter than the previous ones)
- buttons now put more resistance when you press them in order to avoid accidental presses during gameplay
- even the weight of the controller now feels more balanced and the controller doesn't give the feeling that there are empty spaces inside
This controller is the proof that the previous generation controller was already a very good one but now it's almost perfect (the elite is still the best for me)
A lot of you think it is not worth its price since you can have the old controller at half the price and you might be right, if you want to play on the Xbox console and are not used to share pics etc... You can easily decide to buy the older one and save some money.
But if you play on pc like me then I think it's worth its price because it can be remapped and moreover it gives a premium feeling similar to the elite version.
Sadly at the moment there aren't any software which allows the remapping of this controller but it will surely come out in the future we just have to wait a little bit.
This is the most clever controller I have ever seen after the elite.
I’m glad they upgraded the bumpers, I’ve had some controllers have bad numbers that break and it makes the games unplayable.
I found that the plastic appears to be of low quality and the digital directional is very noisy.
@@CorruptionManX the plastic is thicker than the previous one, of course it's not like the elite version but it's still better than the previous generation Xbox one.
The d-pad is noisy that's true but I think it can prevent accidental clicks while playing
I find even though I have small hands I prefer the larger more substantial feel of the xb1 controller and I hate how playstation controllers often feel too thin and wide for me
Such a long reply....at the end of the day, let us admit it, it is basically the same thing except with very minimum change to improve gaming experience.
Thanks for typing such a lengthy reply to try to tell the world how "different" it is from the previous gen console.
Thanks for doing this, no idea why no ones done this yet!! Ps5 was done by your friend last week
Jan 2022: Very helpful video. Managed to use a 2mm wide flat bladed precision screwdriver instead of a Torx bit. Will lock itself offset between the security point and the inside edges of the screw head.
I’m glad I’m not the only one that noticed the controller being so small, great video!
And you can feel it. Definitely have to get readjusted
Still gripper than the older ones.
They actually mentioned it being smaller for children
Is it worse for people with big hands?
Best professional Xbox x controller tear down video! Thank you for your great job!!!
Nice! Been looking forward to someone taking one of these apart.🙏 Thanks Vince. 👍
As soon as I got the Series X I compared the controller against the One X controller and the new controller overall just feels better to me and less cheap, has a bit more weight as well which I prefer. Side note: Microsoft's naming on these consoles is complete trash.
Of course it is. The names they choose for some of their products is total crap. Bing and Edge being two examples. Not just crappy names either.
The difference between the two is negligible. The difference between the Ps4 and Ps5’s controller on the other hand is noticeable af. Which is a good thing.
Not as bad as Apple naming there ipad as the new iPad thats obviously ancient now.
Your video are always helpful with the repair so far learnt alot and try to work as professional as you are.
Nice Video! Thank you. Looks like they have addressed some issues with the bumper buttons and heavier d-pad domes.
That D-pad retainer is probably grounded as a way to protect the ARM chip from static discharge without the need for the shield on the back like the older ones. Could also just be to protect against double clicks when only pressing once.
Dude, that was intense lol. I was like no way is he getting all this shit back together. Well proved me wrong. Got yourself a sub 👍🏽great job brother
I mean if I, a 24 year-old girl can do it.. anyone can
You telling me a guy that created his own switch lite by taking apart a regular switch and creating his own shell doesn't have the skills to be able to put a controller back together?
@@chan13153. Lmao
Imagine if your mechanic couldn’t put back together part of your car
I neither have nor want a current generation Xbox console, but I do very much enjoy these types of videos. Thank-you Vince!
Great video, thanks for opening the Series X/S controller and showing us what different!
Ik its nice cause its hard to find whats different except 2 buttons
Now the million dollar question, did you put the pieces back in?
- Me watching the final minutes of the video. "Nevermind"
Thanks for making this video as I'm looking to upgrade the Thumbsticks on my Series X Controller to the Inter-changeable Magnetic Sticks from the Elite Controller 1 or 2, but I wasn't sure if they were exactly the same or not !!
Now I know that I'll have no problem going ahead with my upgrade, Much Appreciated, Cheers !!
You should build one of those do it yourself cnc routers. I know that's kinda random but I think it would fun to see you set it up. Also great vid as always man
Finally a video I have been looking for to see for some time
Love the video keep up the great work and stay safe
The two extra pads on the headphone jack might have continuity between them when the headphones are disconected. They might be to detect if a headphone is conected. The new version might be detecting if the headphones are connected by monitoring the impeadence of the headphone speakers instead.
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so did they or did they not upgrade the drifting issue?
@@Butterballbxif you are referring to the drifting issue of the analog thumb sticks from what I can see the components there are pretty much the same so it's unlikely they upgraded them to solve that issue.
It's just my guess from what I could see in the video.
i do like taller d pad but rihgt now i just used my og xbox one controller since i broke it one at the time...
I need to replace my Series X mic port as it already failed. I am going to swap in the One S (1708) mic port replacement and hopefully all goes well.
Nice job with the teardown and comparison! It's much appreciated! :)
I ordered an Xbox Series controller not too long ago, when Xbox Design Lab was re-opened with the Xbox Series controller. So, I'll be getting my personally-designed Xbox Series controller soon, and I can't wait to use it with my PC (I'm a PC gamer, but the last console I ever bought was an Xbox 360, so I kind of have a thing for Microsoft's Xbox controllers lol).
Love the video and thank you for letting us know about the controller 👍
Very nice video. Thank you for the inside view 😬
Thank you so much man that’s really helped me a lot!
Wow I'm surprised they used the same analogs since they have a class action lawsuit against them for the drift issues on the Xbox One controllers
No the class action law suit is for the elite controller, but for some stupid reason they included the original Xbox one controller. They are gonna lose now lmao for doing that. All analog controllers have drift, but the elite seems to have it a lot more. So it’s weird to me that they include the og Xbox one controller which doesn’t have stick drift as much as the elite controller.
@@g3neralcross911 to my knowledge the xbox one controller uses the same analogs as the two elite controllers.
@@ryanstrembicki5234 no they have tension mechanisms in the elite 2 controllers, which is the cause of the stick drift
@@g3neralcross911 I’m more angry about the fact the a button on my elite is 100% unuseable. Can’t get stick drift if the face buttons don’t work and can’t use a $180 controller.
@@ryanstrembicki5234 but the elite controller has 10x the amount of stick drift. ( due to being able to swap analogs ). But on normal the Xbox one controller has around the same drift durability as the dual shock 4. I would say the elite is on par with the joy stick controller in terms of drift durability.
You really did it very well. I’ve been seen sometime!
Thanks for the video Vince! as someone who games a lot using xbox one controller almost exclusively I can tell you those changes to the d pad are a bigger deal than they seem. The caps they used on the dpad contacts on the xbox one controller were rubbish along with the design of the dpad itself. So I'm looking foreword to seeing how well this one holds up.
Amazing videos. Thank you vince
Big like for you. Perfect video and the first one to do it. One little question. You mentioned that the back is quite similar. Do you think that can be interchangeable? This is only to know if the remap kits for the s controller might be usable on the x controller.
If you have problems getting the series controller to work on pc, this worked for me! As someone already said, follow these steps in order. 1. Force update windows and restart. 2. Go to windows update again (it will say you are up to date, that is BS). Hit the check for windows update button and another update will appear. Install that one as well,,, it took me quite awhile on the second one. 3. Plug your controller into your pc/laptop etc. with a C cable. Run the XBOX accessory app from the windows store and run it and it will install new firmware on your controller (I left Steam running in the background so I could see if it was working and sure enough steam will see it as an Xbox 1 controller, YAY!) 4. Run Bluetooth connection wizard under devices. Found and worked perfectly after that....
As I bought this thing solely for my PC, the fact that I had to trouble shoot this sucker new out of the box day one was a bit disconcerting, but viola , it was worth it!
Loving the subtle changes of the series controller very much. My favorite controller is now just that bit better!!!
i have one on the way now, hopefully they dont get stick drift as easily and hopefully the LB doesnt inexplicably fall off as much either 😂😂
I was having issues on PC with my Series X controller. When connected through bluetooth the button layout was allover the place. I did what Sam Foote explains but it didn't work until I unpaired the device and than paired it again after the controller firmware update via the Xbox Accessory App
@@TerraWare i also did the update but a software update never gonna fix potential hardware defects 🤷🏼♂️
Thanks very much for sharing this. On my second controller after sending the first back. This update worked.
7:00 For Some Odd Reason, That Demonstration Of How The Button Works Was Really Satisfying!
cool video. thanks Vince!
Nice video, came to see if they had changed the bumper design as thru the years I've had problems with them. Slightly new design so hoping for better durability.
Great video, Thanks - I am interested in the disassembly because perhaps the easiest way to add DIY flight yoke, pedals etc to a series S (for
the Fight Simulator, of course) is to use a spare controller as the interface: remove or isolate all switches and pots and bring all terminals
out via a connector... No need to replicate the electronics or to reverse-engineer the communication protocols!
Good timing vince, you got in early with this one!, hope you get plenty of views. Was wanting to look inside this new one to see what the difference is. It looks like the new model is using lead free on the analog sticks, which is the same as 1697 models and elite , a pain to get the old sticks off compared to 1537 and 1708 models . The headphone jack is the long version, same as 1697 and elite models , but 1708 headphone jacks work also in elite and 1697, just the fit in the case is very slightly different.
Thx for this video, now i know custom buttons made for the xbox one S controller will fit the new series X controller, time to order ! 🤩
Nice finally someone teared it down! 😁
Great comparison video
Helluva video. Good job!
great video. i really hope they fixed the LB RB bumper issue from the previous gen. Mine failed on numerous controllers overtime.
The plastic part for the bumpers still looks to be a similar design although he said is looked like the switches were slightly more vertical. That may help lessen the flex, but unless they reinforced the plastic with a metal mesh/wire core the plastic will eventually break just like the old ones. Even with wire the plastic will probably still get brittle and snap as it ages. I got a Series X controller to replace my failing XB1X controller on Friday and played about 4 or 5 hours of Destiny 2 over the weekend. The right trigger is already clicking. Makes me sad.
@@DjPhaTrix That is super dissapointing. I love the controller layout but hate how they put such a weak piece for those two buttons. I agree with you, if they didn't fix the design, this will eventually break.
I've tried the non-OEM replacements and they just feel off. argh.
Cant wait for a million subscribers!
Good video, but the reason I was here was to see if the chips are the same. We do not get to see this unfortunately while it's the most interesting to know for product revisions like these. Also worth noting is the new controller has BT5.0 while the previous version sported BT4.0 which is nearly twice as slow.
Vince great videos, have you fixed sticky triggers on a xbox series x controller if so what did you do?
the only concern is about the sticks drift ,nice video !
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they will
literally the most in depth comparison of the two controllers
I believe on the xbox one headphone modual, the 2 extra pins are for the controller to recognise if there is a headset plugged in
That is a very nice controller set up. The original ps3 controller was a pain to put back together.
Thanks mate. Keep up the good work!
Great video idea!
Tha ls for thos great video, with it I was able to fix my LB button :)
Amazing video, thanks!
I needed EXACTLY this video. My 1 month old series x controller mic port has already failed. I noticed the difference between the One S (1708) controller mic port and the series X on other videos but wasn't sure if it would matter. Microsoft says my replacement controller would take 90 DAYS!!! I am going to swap a one S mic port into the series X and see what happens.
As TR said, the missing contacts are a push to make contact pair, probably to detect presence of the jack. One key point, although it's difficult to tell from the video is the circuit board looks to have gone back to fibreglass re-inforced rather than cheap nasty paper composite and possibly increased thickness. Should have far fewer write-offs due to cracked PCBs when the sticks have taken a hit!!
Just got my series x and iam very happy with my purchase ,thank you for this video i'm sure it will be very useful down the line .
Yeah kinda sucks to learn the ps5 out performs the xbox and its controller is way better. Same old garbage from xbox. Bad case of buyers remorse.
@@jeffj2730 it really doesn’t
the ground on the metal ring surrounding the dpad is there to avoid magnetic interference to potentiometer on the sticks. this dpad design generates more friction specially on heavy use. its just a safety measure and quite frankly not necessary. this application is mostly found on classic digital cameras where a lot of potentiometer can be found.
8:15 the joy stick modules are the same, oh well. last two bluetooth controllers went funny after a year, one is stuck right and the other has random up drift.
Microsoft and Sony both use veryyy cheap analog modules. Which is a crime for 60 bucks per gamepad. And sad because they functionially belong to the best gamepads. Ive found a gamepad with analog Sensors but it costs 160
@@AbuHajarAlBugatti The real shame is neither Microsoft or Sony provide a utility to recalibrate the thumbsticks if they are replaced.
i hope the new location for the R1 and L1 removed that problem when they get stuck on the RT and LT
I'm actually happy that the controller is very similar. Its a great design, if it's not broken why fix it?
Though I do wish they wouldn't make the D-pad so snappy, rubber domes feel better to me.
As someone who uses 8bitdo controllers for basically every platformer i have since they almost feel the exact same as a snes controller i can tell you that this clicky concave d-pad is actually really really nice. The layout still makes me prefer other controllers above this one when it comes to 2d platformers but man is it still an absolute treat to use. I wouldn't mind playing game slike hollow knight or Ori and the blind forest on this.
But it is broken! Just do a quick search on "left analog stick problems". Their reason for not upgrading the internals are purely financial. What the customer needs was not the priority there
@@john_c1 I think he meant the design not the problems
I found the rubber domes to be too inconsistent on the Xbox 360. I'm glad they've stuck with the metal domes for this gen.
Not having rubber domes is very very good for fighting games like Tekken or Skullgirls.
Whenever you don't put the introduction music I check if my speakers are working 😅
Will you do a teardown of the PS5 controllers? I'm very interested in seeing what's inside the haptic feedback and adaptive triggers.
That's one thing the PS5 had over the Xbox. But doesn't mean jack if devs don't use it
@@IaconDawnshire True...But Sony has some great exclusives also.
Good video!! Where could I buy the stick for the Xbox controller? Can I buy them with you or a trusted place? I would like to change one in my control. Saludos.
the LB and RB bumpers are different sizes from the xbox one controller to the newer series controllers as well
Awesome Video
Same with the PS5 Controller except of the rumble feature. But it was interesting to see it.
Great vid! Do third party battery packs from xbox one controller fit into new series x controller as well?
Yes, all official attachments that fitted the Xbox one ( and third party attachments to the same specifications) will fit the new controllers
very nice video ! thanks so much .very nice .you are so great! thank your video!
Having never owned a One controller before (used 360 pad for PC) this is a really nice controller, the dpad is clicky like a GBA SP one, one question is though do you think we'll be able to adapt one the elite dpad setup where you can swap it out? I want that nice metal one someday
Hi Vince! Could you make a video teaching us how can we use the Xbox One controller on the Xbox 360 console? (if technically possible)
I use one of my 360 controllers for PC gaming and tbh it was for its time the definitive controller pretty much best across the board and I suspect the later controllers built upon that strength tweaking in the right directions but holding on to that solid build base of the 360's controller. Sometimes it feels they are trying to reinvent the wheel but tbh they are all descendents of the superb N64 controller that changed the way we controlled gaming in 3 dimensions not just 2 dimensions we were used to.
>Superb N64 Controller
Descendants
the extra 2 pins on the headphone jack and both linked together when you connect a headset to it. when you remove the headphones the link between those 2 pins is broken. this is how the controller send signal to the xbox that a headset has been connected. anyone who fixes these controllers will just replace the whole unit but its usually these 2 pins not getting a proper connection that causes the headphones not to work. if you use a small flat head you can usually move or scratch the contact point between the 2 pins and your headset will start working, Im glad they have removed these pins on the new one as it is easily the most common issue with the 2016 version of the controller and the new one be using the headsets own resistance to detect that a headset has been connected or something
i like to see they improved the dpad that much
The inside of the Xbox Guide button appears to be different but the weird thing about that is that my Xbox One S (White) Controller has the same internal setup (Four tabs aka "cross teeth") for the Guide button just like the Series Controller there, the only big difference is how the Series button is taller than the one I have.
As for countering the joystick drift issue? Replacing it with a new component may not help at all, what you might have to end up doing is taking out the wiper/s before clipping off the tabs and nubs (possibly sand down the clipped nubs if it's not flat enough with a file tool) from the potentiometer/s themselves, clear it of any debri/dirt before putting the wiper back in and soldering it back onto the board/PCB.
One way I went about fixing this issue is getting all three points of contact hot at once before trying to tilt the potentiometer ever so slightly into the direction it keeps drifting towards.
What still baffles me to THIS DAY is how Microsoft has a program that allows you to calibrate/center the joysticks more effectively, but refuse to do so under the intentions that we would be stupid enough to keep buying new controllers over and over instead of having some electronic technological expertise.
Besides that and all, I do thank you very much for making this video, as I was super interested to see if the new controllers would also be utilizing a "haptic feedback" sort of feature similar to the Steam Controller and the PS5 Controller, only to be met with they're still using those motors which I'd still need to desolder all off of completely just so my controller is lighter to carry around and use.
Awesome video, but I found the X button on the new controller is actually slightly taller. So putting old buttons in the new model. The x ended up slightly shallower than the rest.
Interesting to see that the headset jacks don't appear to be soldered to the board at 10:46 ! I did wonder why my jack has movement on my new Series S controller...!!
Hi, Vince goodie goodie new vid!
I really like the size and shape of the xbox controller. Its close to perfect
My guess is that the change in the hedphone jack is for reduce costs and now only has support for ctia jacks (while I guess the original one controller was supposed to have both standards CTIA/OMTP but it was never given the proper firmware update to do so)
on my controller the little pad under the right trigger (cushion for when its pressed down) moved out of place and its glue kept the trigger in pressed down position
Hello, this is Stampy, and welcome to an Xbox video!
I've had 2 original xbox controller which got stick drift after around 4 years and the bumpers stopped working so I'm happy that the bumper changed. I currently have a one s controller and the bumper doesn't work on one side and clicks twice on the other side which is annoying
I noticed this controller didn't have any visible screwholes and was intrigued so I decided to check this out
PS5 changed a lot. So annoying that Xbox didn't really do anything innovative with the controller or the OS.
How does the os matter? You get used to that shit 4 days after launch anyway
@Blaise what the hell
@Blaise The os really doesnt matter. Us on pc have been stuck with the same ui for 5 years
Old ps controller was garbage
Would you please mind testing out whether you can install JUST the Series X joystick PCB on an Xbox One controller?
Good job!
Have you done one with series x controller and the elite 2? Does the elite 2 have the same form factor as the series x or the Xbox one? I have the series x and I love the new form factor differences and I wonder if the elite 2 follows the series x of Xbox one . Thanks!
Thank you for the video!! Geeesh
Can you swap the dpads from one to the another? I know that the front is different but I'm curious just because further modding.
Bruh y they still running double AA batteries its literally the same controller I was really hoping for a rechargeable controller this time around, so much for next gen lmao
There is rechargeable batteries on the market, though
@@ScarLeRenard I've been using the rechargable batteries. It's quite convenient.
Thats a bad excuse you can get a charge and play kit or rechargeable double AA
U guys rlly wanna buy that tho plus look at ps5 it's got a rechargeable controller hecc even ps4 had it
@@jonyleche3549 Yeah but once they're dead you have to replace to whole controller
I have a controller with cord on my side so don't really have to worry about this
Thank you. Thank you
Good work
This has convinced me to pick either a fusion pro or a razer wolverine (maybe ultimate) controller once I need to replace the xbox one that I use on my pc. Never going to touch the elites though.
Granted, i've had my controller for a year and only just got the first problem with it, so it has held up well enough I suppose. When pressed down and wiggled mildly from side to side, the A button will register a new connection each time it's moved. Kind if annoying, and I expect it to develop more serious flaws in no time.
I just wanna figure out if I can swap the xbox one controller's r/l buttons onto the series s controller... It's not clicking right anymore...
Nice Video
possibly to do with the new dynamic latency input