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When 18 girls in a small town become the center of a teenage pregnancy scandal...one middle aged woman in South Florida will take it WAY. TOO. SERIOUSLY!
lots of movies during the 2000s either get that perfectly or the actors look so far away from their actual age its distracting from the actual movies and plot
Fanfic writers will do hours upon hours of research to make sure their abo mpreg slow burn is accurate to real life but this ostensibly realistic film can't even have someone mention their feet hurting
I mean, both are shitty. If you demonize teen pregnancy, pregnant teens may get ridiculed and judged based on one bad night. And if you romanticize it, it may cause it to become more common. It’s kinda a shitty situation.
@@bobbihearn6168 The minute the child develops a mind of their own (anywhere from age 7-14), it's downhill for the child from there. A lot of people fail to realize that, while they are inherently irresponsible while developing, children ARE human beings with diverse intelligence.
@@randombrokeperson happened to me and my bros. Our parents want us to be their doll; they want us to behave dress and speak in a certain way. We cannot express our likes/dislikes and personnalities freely. So please people, stop treating your kids like barbie dolls
I love how the mom keeps talking about how she ‘doesn’t accept birth control in her house’ but... many girls actually *need* it. It doesn’t always have to do with having a baby, it regulates period cycles and helps reduce the pain of cramps. Not allowing a teenager to take birth control if they need it for medical reasons is just stupid
@@no1important777 yep they can help regulate periods, make PMS not as bad, reduce hormonal acne, and make periods lighter or less painful! This is especially important if u have something like endometriosis. Also certain birth control methods can stop the physical periods like IUDs or Depo shots.
It's like how in most films and TV series most of the time when a woman says she has good news it usually means she's pregnant. As if pregnancies are the only good news they can have when it's not.
Movie logic: 1. If any pregnant women fall down the stairs, automatic miscarriage the very next hour. 2. All surrogate women are all crazy and will try to kill the mother they are giving their child to. 3. Any person who gets into a car accident either die, or in year long coma.
Because anything that happens in media they have to make a story of it. And that was how it was with lifetime, law and order, and any movies in Hollywood.
My Jewish grandparents were so scared after this came out, that I decided to finally come out of the closet as lesbian. This movie has always had a “special” place in my heart because of that
I love how they talk about playing with the babies, painting their nails and hanging out with them like they’re friends. Just do that with your actual friends??
i totally agree with you! it's not that hard. you don't need a baby to do those things. just do those things with a friend or your friend group! what's stopping them from doing that?
I know this is kinda off topic but in my high school we hung out with this guy. He was really popular because he acted quite feminine. Some of the other guys made fun of him but we brought him into our friend group. It turned out he was actually into crossdressing and we did things like that to him and he enjoyed it. Moral of the story if your in high school and want to paint someone's nails and dress them up. Just do it with your friends.
Teens in this movie: “Jamie Lyn Spears is a teen mom so I wanna be one too” Actual teens when that happened: “Damn you Jamie now they gotta cancel Zoey 101”
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They do present babies as little dolls that you can play with and dress up for fun... like NO! A baby is a human who shit, cry, need food and medical care. They also forgot to mention the joy of post partum....
Autism God I think what really irked me about this movie was the underage drinking WHILE PREGNANT! I hate movies that glorify underaged drinking/drug use without showing the consequences (granted it shows some consequences in this movie but still)
The rundown: All teens are stupid and exactly like this. The only thing teenage girls want is boys attention and to have their babies. Also while pregnant they will still be drinking because booze and parties are the only thing they do in their pastimes. Oh and yes karen you're daughter will jump off a bridge if her friends do it!! They also will never feel bad about anyone they hurt in the process because... teenagers am I right?!
Brittany Bennett because those people who think babies are like dolls never experienced real responsibility. And then will probably grow up to be those parents who want their kids to have kids so they can play grandparent.
Sure some teens want to have babies. But in real life, teens know that they should wait until they’re older. Because- and I know this might be surprising- teenagers aren’t morons.
You'd be surprised. The decision/judgment and risk/reward sections of the human brain are the most unstable during teenage hood and aren't fully developed until you're like 19-21ish. But that's not to say they're stupid or morons. Just reckless and(depending on the person) naive. This of course doesn't apply to all teenagers, as they are their own people and have different personalities and make their own decisions, but the thing about the brains is applicable to all teenagers.
@@DewSocks That doesn't make them stupid though. Everyone in this movie is a brain dead moron. Yeah teens can be impulsive but this shit is just plain ridiculous
Movies like this and Wattpad authors seem to think teen pregnancy is this magical thing that isn't a time-consuming job that would realistically wear down on a high school girl. No one that age is mentally ready to be a parent and it makes me angry when stories portray teenage girls as so completely delusional and ignorant.
Exactly, not to mention the expense... like whose paying for childcare... grown adults can't even afford that. Also you can not bring your kid to school while you take classes... like wtf?!? So are these girls dropping out of HS then?? It's so unrealistic.
Mostly writers who believe relationships abusive or toxic is beautiful-even with gay couples. You can not imagine how many hate comments I get when I made these kinds couple split up (or put in jail/death of one) Plot twist it ended up making me want to become a horror writer -_-
“And while the boys who knock them up are given a slap on the wrist, the film places the majority of the responsibility and blame on the girls themselves” I mean, that part’s realistic at least
Are you kidding me? Did you know that women have begun suing their sperm bank donors for child support? Do you have any idea how much "child support" actually is? The woman usually doesn't even have to work. Taking well over half of every paycheck you make for 18 years is not a "slap on the wrist". Get your feminist mythology out of here.
@@ananthropomorphictalkinggo6641 first off, we're gonna need a source for that sperm donor claim. Second, op was not talking about that, but a quote from the review stating that the pregnant teens in the movie were given pretty much all the blame for the pregnancies but not the baby daddies. Op is stating that this is similar to real life because teen girls in real life are told things like "you shouldn't have let him get you pregnant" which shifts all of the blame to the girl and off of the guy. Like Cynical Reviews said, it takes 2 to tango and both should take responsibility for their actions.
@@mrh8142 the sperm donor thing happened in kansas, it won't let me link a site with "sperm" in the address. And are you kidding me? If you're dumb enough to get pregnant in high school, you deserve to be shamed. You know how it works, so ignorance isn't an excuse. They don't ID for condoms, and they give them out free at clinics, so why would anyone have sympathy for the devil?
@@mrh8142 love how this dude is like 'well yt allegedly wont let me link any sources, so im just completely unable to verify them at all!' like man thats crazy how conveniently that worked out for you. doesnt make you look like you're incompetent or full of shit at all
What this film doesn't mention: Dangers of early pregnancy, symptoms and signs of a miscarriage or a miscarriage at all, risks that develop as you go further along like disease, the impact of fetal alcohol syndrome, birth defects, complications, different types of pregnacies and the emotional part of pregnancy.
The fact that FAS was not addressed just baffles me. That shit is no joke. Drinking while pregnant will affect a baby for their whole life. The stunted growth and learning abilities? That is hard to deal with and hard to watch.
Getting preggo as a teen also causes alot of problems for the mom herself like you stop growing all the standerd sypmtoms are worse and it fucks with ur brain develpment
The school claimed it was a Pregnancy Pact so they wouldn’t have to teach actual sex education, which is the actual cause of teen pregnancy lack of comprehensive sex education.
I don't know why the school didn't taught them Sexual education, was it too awkward or Taboo? i had my first sexual education class at age 10 for Zeus's sake.
@@romanov3937 Evangelical parents complain if the schools teach safe sex because apparently they are encouraging kids to fuck. Abstinence does work 100% of the time in preventing pregnancy, however it's not reliable be cause teens are going to fuck regardless
@@nikolnolastname4473 That's the most idiotic thing I've heard in a long time, bloody hell! In my country it's literally just another part of the biology curriculum - when you're done with learning about photosynthesis and the cardiovascular system you move on to talking about erogenous zones and how sperm travels from the testicles lol
“1in 6 girls in the United States will actually have a child before she’s the age of 20” I LITERALLY SCREAM LAUGHED WHEN I HEARD THAT LINE. WHAT WORLD DO THESE PEOPLE LIVE IN?
"18 girls did get pregnant within a year, which is a lot" bruh at my highschool they literally talked about turning the home ec room into a daycare because there were sooooooo many teen mothers
And I thought my home ec class was bad because I couldn’t use the sewing machine. (The teacher also turned out to be kinda racist afterward, so I guess home ec class is cursed)
"I'll feed them every single day." Come again? As opposed to what - every other day?! You don't get brownie points for feeding your baby everyday, _several_ times a day. Anything less, is just child abuse. What is this film?
@@tradbimbo Thanks for the correction, but again, we talking about _babies._ Lunchables and take-aways should not even be a thing in their minds! My God! XD
@@tradbimbo I assumed she meant "I'm going to just cook for them when they're old enough for solids, no takeouts" to which I, as a mom, say "HA!". Half the time, my toddler won't eat any big cooked meals, so she's just signing herself up for frustration and lots of leftovers.
I don't think it was inappropriate for the blogger lady to buy condoms for the teenager. In fact, it was probably the best decision made by anyone in the entire movie.
right. he doesnt get it lmfao. some of the things he said in this video are wrong. like there was nothing else the nurse could do. its on the girls and their parents.
Is no one going to mention that this is an film is an insult for how they portray teen dads? Not all teen dad's are deadbeats. My cousin was a teen dad and he loves his kids, he's worked hard to provide for them and the mother of his children.
Most of the men who impregnate teenage girls are also... y'know, men. Not teenage boys. So it would've been nice if the movie acknowledged that, too, as well as showing a more supportive teenage dad.
@@dalailarose1596 yeah you'd think if they really wanted to up the scaremongering they could've easily rolled pedos into it too, but then they'd be opening a whole other can of worms to butcher into their horrifically simplified plot as well.
Stacy: "Why aren't you helping me?" Stacy's mom: "Because you knew better" No she didn't. She never got the chance to know better. In fact, the mom and her whole Family Friendly Fuckheads Committee fought hard specifically to make sure that she wasn't legally allowed to know any better. Then called it Mission Accomplished when she lost access to her last reliable source of information that could've prevented her current predicament. She wasn't any help either. She never told her daughter a damn thing until it was too late. Which is strange because her entire stance is that the parents should be the ones to teach them, not the schools.
Honestly i don't know if these people have even been teenagers, it's like they they portray teenagers as animals who cannot think, and they forget this kids are studying in highschool
And i literally don't belive that EVERY single boy that make the girls pregnant didn't wanted to at least meet their baby, i mean, i get is comon for boys to walk out when they get a girl pregnant but come on! I know there are boys that want to he parents or will at least help with monney.
@@redhood7650 and that okay! I don't want to be a mom either, but what i'm trying to say is that at least some of the baby daddy's of the girls in the movie would have helped or wanting to meet their kids.
I don’t get how the movie just glosses over the drinking while pregnant and likelihood of Fetal Alcohol Syndrome. It’s such a gross misrepresentation of the dangers involved with pregnancy, especially where alcohol is involved.
My take is that the "school" did not have any Sex Ed courses or the kids haven't gotten to the chapter where they learn about potential dangers to a fetus' physical and cognitive development, including teratogens, pollution, alcohol, smoke, etc
@@jadahayden1130 My school had no sex ed outside AIDS lessons, but we all knew what contraceptives were useful for what, and how smoking and drinking could cause developmental dysfunction in the fetus or even stillbirth. These girls, as they are portrayed, are straight psychopathic. Probably want their kids to turn out disabled because they think it will make them even more doll-like.
Lzy G My school’s sex ed consisted of: abstinence. Don’t send people nudes. We never heard the word contraceptive. This was less than a year ago, and that was the only health/sex education we’re ever going to get. :’) I’m glad I have the internet and educated parents, or else I’d be royally fucked.
Not gonna lie Jesse leaving the self-absorbed girlfriend, who wanted him to give up his entire future, was probably the best decision in the entire movie.
I think I'm more apt the statement would be "this is bad, women" I mean back with my mom kind of like lifetime all the time just about every movie you saw had a female protagonist going up against an evil man woman or child literally no one and nothing was safe for women to interact with that didn't want to kill them or ruin their life I'm just sitting around thinking this is terrible and I was like 10 or 11 when I was watching this stuff I was just thinking how could anyone be allowed to put such obvious bullshit on TV
Of course she will. Straight from the freezer to the microwave. She'll get the babysitter to do it, so it's basically like she's doing it herself, right?
Look, Juno maybe bland to other people,but it doesn’t have the cliches of them staying together and raising a baby. That’s all I’m saying. Plus she gave the baby to someone who wanted to be a mom.
Well, we have the social distancing excuse. Fuck it's on the switch. I go outside and play it. Get some inspiration for me town. The weather is lovely.
My cousin joined a pregnancy pack when she was a junior in high school. She and her friends had the same delusions as the girls in the movie. Fast forward to 11 months later and all she did was complain that her son would not shut up, that he was so needy, the father literally wanted nothing to do with her and that she missed having fun like normal teenagers. Meanwhile I was literally the only one in my family who said that she made the biggest mistake of her life.
A girl that young is not capable of that and that is so...I'm sorry but you're right. This is why they shouldn't have stopped the fake baby thing. Less kids would have kids when they weren't ready. You know the fake baby's I'm talking about? The ones that cry and need to be changed and fed. Definitely kept people baby free. I'm surprised they don't do this very often anymore.
@@kalenhuntley3508 Honestly, I don't know how many schools show birthing videos, but that would help too. At no point will a girl walk away wanting that. Even a more accurate description of pregnancy would help. Yes, some people go through it with no or very little problem. But others end up on bed rest with gestational diabetes and shit.
This is such a small part to harp on but the whole “Jamie Lynn Spears was a teen parent so I want to be one too” is so stupid. I’m a few years younger than Jamie Lynn and for me and my friends her getting pregnant was a huge *teen pregnancy is bad* moment. We saw how she was smeared in the media, listened to many of the adults around us call her horrible names, and watched as her career was ruined. Nobody saw her experience and wanted to be like her. That’s just such an out of touch adult thing to put in the script lmao.
I remember how it was all over the news and tabloids. I can’t imagine how hard it must’ve been not only having to deal with having a baby at 16 but the entire world knowing about it and people being so mean nonstop. I wouldn’t wish that on anyone.
@Tianruo Yang The real issue is that apparently he wasn't even the dad, and she had been groomed by the producer of the show who was like 40 years old. I remember when that can of worms exploded.
Mae McBride Also, pedantic fact, Jamie Lynn Spears wasn't really known for anything other than Zoey 101 so I don't why these girls act like she was an A-lister in 2008.
"Contraceptives suck!" Apparently none of these women have heard of: unusually excruciating periods, premenstrual dysphoria and iron deficiency anemia.
@Usuário Sarcástico You've copy/pasted that same reply from another comment... Even in the context of sexual intercourse, it's still okay to use contraceptives.
Y'all, I talked to someone whom I associate with & I mentioned I take birth control for my excruciating cramps & NOT for being sexually active. She then went on to say that I'm committing genocide & that I should eat fruit for a month to ease my cramps.....ummm what? First of all, what am I killing when I'm not even remotely sexually active & 2, what does eating straight up fruit & drinking fruit juices for a month really gunna do for me? It may work for someone but not me & that truly annoyed me because every female body is different but yet she told me to do something that isn't even in my lifestyle of eating fruit all the damn time🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️
"Back then girls our age were having kids" Yes, when they had a husband to provide for them and, depending on how far back you go, had already been married three years!
Not so often. Also unavailable young men who make shitty dads and lots of divorce....or divorce is too hard to get and the couple is miserable forever. Women werent happy having their lives cut off because they were expected to get married and not work after having a child...and not all guys were that keen on being a dad and strapped down to take care of a woman and kids. That's just a messed up system
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PoisonTippedSword my dad is the same, he got full custody of my big brother and I and he worked SO hard all through his 20s to support us. If anyone’s a deadbeat, it’s my insane mother. She acts like an adult toddler, I swear, my 4 year old half brother is better behaved than she is!
Kids who are born like this are bound to live difficult lives. This movie doesn’t even try to hide the fact that it’s glorifying this crap... Atrocious cinematography/dialogue/acting aside, the point this movie throws across is so stupid
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"That's right mums. If your daughter isn't home by the time the sun goes down, she's probably going down on some son." Honestly the best thing that will ever be associated with this movie in any way.
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grandparents: "teenagers sleeping around getting pregnant all the time, disgraceful!" also grandparents: * had 3 kids before dropping out of highschool *
Well, to be devil's advocate, your grandparents needed to have more babies because some would most likely die early. In addition their economy was in a much better state (one man could bring all the bread home, didn't take two incomes to maintain the family/home.) Although love children were definitely frowned upon back than. First world girls of 2010+ have all the information/warnings at their fingertips so they have far fewer excuses.
To be fair... viable jobs that didn't require much of an education were in ample supply back then. Houses were actually affordable. So as long as they got married & provided the stable family unit for those 3 kids, that was generally enough to get their life together.
i think the biggest problem with this movie is that it paints teen pregnancy to be this “fun adventure” when quite realistically it can ruin your life so incredibly quickly. no teenager is mature enough to care for a baby, especially when they clearly don’t have a solid job that can sustain not just themselves but a baby as well. and while pregnancy is a beautiful and amazing thing, it also has massive downsides that this movie seems to completely overlook. it’s genuinely surprising that this movie was made by a women, because i’d assume a woman would know more about pregnancy.
I was at my neighbour's house with my parents for dinner a few months ago. She works as a teacher. Let me tell you, she's seen how teen pregnancy and super early parenthood can RUIN girls and women's lives first hand. Honestly the horror stories shes witnessed are good free birth control.
Bruh they act as all teen girls want is to have a baby when its literally most people's nightmare to be a teen mom. Like sure some teens wanna have kids but most of us are just trynna enjoy life and not have a child lmao
*sigh* as a 17 year old female, I will say this. Baby fever is a real thing. Sometimes the idea of having a child is wonderful, sometimes it’s the overly romantic way adults talk about children. However, any rational teenager understands that they can’t take care of themselves, so taking care of another human is out of the question. Some people do so anyway, some are fine, others flop harder than a dropped waffle. Also. Way to blame women for something that is usually out of their control. Some women are tricked. Christ sake
A great solution to baby fever is to just have dolls. My mom bought me two lovely silicone reborn dolls that I can carry or bring to stores or buy clothes for them.
@@dreamsofcrows2718 lol. I think as time goes by it's less of a novelty, it's not hip and cool or romanticized anymore, after all this comment is 3yrs old. I too have a small dog and she's definitely easier to care for than any baby I've met.
Love how they manage to push their strollers down a highschool hallway. In real life it already would have been tipped over by the stampede of kids trying to sprint to their next class in under 3 minutes while maintaining their own little friend herds
"But their school principal and the medias concocted a story of pregnancy pact" How to avoid criticisms for not being able to give basics biological and sexuality lessons XD
@@awesometown1000 yeah but actually knowing about pregnancies and sex would help a lot it's cause it doesn't get talked about that they don't understand the consequences
My thoughts exactly. “Oh, this totally didn’t happen because we teach abstinence only/contraception is unreliable, it must be because they PLANNED it! Yeah!”
as a human incubator myself, most of the time pregnancy is relatively uneventful, but, i’ve never met a single pregnant woman who *didnt* complain about the aches and pains. It’s literally the worst thing about being pregnant, besides labor. Something that *is* true is, most of the blame is definitely put on the girls.
@@gircakes not for everyone. It varies greatly from person to person. My mother was incredibly happy and content during her pregnancy but I also know people who have gone through nighmare pregnancies of constant nausea, pain, insomnia, general discomfort and even mild depression. You unfortunately can't predict how your own pregnancy will turn out to be.
@@gircakes From my personal experience being six months pregnant right now, you will get aches and pains from stomach down to your legs. It will reach a point where it will be nearly impossible to shave your legs. Some women experience morning sickness, others experience more fatigue. It all depends upon the person and how they are built too. It can be a good or bad experience.
@@gircakes I have 3 children ranging from 11 to 3 weeks old and none of my pregnancies were the same. My first was easy. Like nothing changed apart from the bump obviously. Second one I spent most of it with awful pelvic pain, restless leg syndrome, heartburn, headaches and back pain. 3rd was pretty easy again apart from some mild sickness at the beginning and by then I'd been diagnosed with a heart condition which was aggravated by the pregnancy. Undoubtably my children made it worth every single pain. You kinda, forget (maybe not the best word) most of it. Some women have horrendous pregnancies with endless sickness and life threatening issues which are fairly rare. Thats where its important to have good healthcare and supportive families.
My mother had three pregnancies. My older sister caused her a lot of pain and then it turned out that she could have not survived if the doctors hadn't noticed something was wrong with the baby, she had preeclampsia with me and I was born too early. The fact that the last pregnancy was uneventful is surprising considering she was already 40 years old and usually those are high risk. Later on, her gynecologist said that she was still very fertile, but my mother was like "Tie those tubes up!"
When I was around eleven, my old man laid out exactly how expensive me and my siblings were. That was all I needed to know. Nobody needed to preach to me about STDs or any of that crap.
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"Back then girls our age were having children" Yes, they were. And they hat litterally no use OUTSIDE of this task. They weren't allowed to own a house or ANYTHING for that matter, they weren't allowed to hold a job, they didn't inherit, they weren't allowed to divorce or even pick their partner... Sounds just peachy!
When I was a junior in high school, we had one of those classes that had you take care of a robot baby for a few days. You had to have it in class, take it home, basically keep it with you at all times because it cried/needed food/needed to be changed at random intervals. The longer it went unattended the worse your grade for the assignment was, so you couldn’t just leave it somewhere and fuck off doing something else. It was a miserable nightmare to deal with as a teen and really cemented my desire to never have children. I remember snapping at some point when it woke me up at 3am screeching for food, but wouldn’t go back to sleep no matter what i did, so i put it in the dryer to muffle it and went back to sleep. I also had someone throw it off the roof for me to try to catch but that was just me being irresponsible and spiteful of this robot cretin. Regardless, i think assignments like that are so goddamn important and every school should invest in horrible robo children. I didn’t go to a well-funded US public school- but we had a handful of babybots and they were given out to a few students every week during whatever life management unit we were going through that required it. Hammering home some of the more simple realities of having a kid, especially as a teenager, is really important. You can tell a teenager having a kid will suck, how tiring it’ll be, how it could ruin your life, but until some people actually experience it, it’s all empty words. This was a huge rant, but in summary: fuck this movie.
Ok how you treated that is so fucked up it’s hilarious and thankfully for me I never had to do this! I am done with regular schooling and I never did this!
FYI, the hymen isn't a freshness seal. It doesn't "break" during intercourse, leaving the person physically changed forever. It can tear if you're too rough, but it won't if there's enough lubrication and both parties are sufficiently gentle. The myth of "breaking" the hymen is stupid and harmful, since it perpetuates the idea that sex should hurt. It shouldn't, ever (unless you're into that). Also I got a birth control ad on this video, lol
Tbh, the hymen often break during physical activity (like sports) and doesn't really hurt, but can bleed a little. If intercourse hurts, you're doing it wrong. Lube, trust and being relaxed helps a lot, since a womans vajayay tightens up if you're anxious (not in a good way, it'll hurt if you're rough). But the whole "you're only pure and a real virgin if there's blood on the sheets" idea is 100% inaccurate.
if you properly prepare the woman then it doesnt. if you just stick it in with no prior foreplay or prepping then its gonna hurt. however thats not gonna be cause its your first time
Abstinence only isn't going to reduce pregnancies. For one, you can't just turn off teenage hormones. No amount of abstinence only lecturing will achieve that. But also, if there's one thing history should teach any of us, its that if you ban something, not only will it not reduce how often people do it, but you'll likely achieve the opposite effect. People will just get really good at doing it secretly.
There are some things you just can't realistically stop. The most pragmatic approach is to give them the tools and education they need to do it safely. Anything less is putting your own morals ahead of the wellbeing of your children.
Also, no matter how hard you teach something is bad, someone is going to try to do it, so you need to take steps to mitigate it. You need a censor to keep kids from hearing curse words. You need a lock to keep someone from stealing your stuff. And you need contraceptives to keep teens from getting pregnant.
And because of the severe taboo, they won’t do it responsibly since they don’t know the dangers. So if something happened, they won’t know how to get help or even want help for fear of being shamed/punished
Girls I went to high school with who got pregnant back then were anything but excited about it nor were they desperate to get pregnant in the first place.
I knew a girl in high school that got pregnant and was excited about it, a couple in fact. It’s way more unsettling than the girls who are terrified. They weren’t trying to get pregnant, but it was all baby showers and excited grandparents. It was like I was on another planet.
Alicia my dad's family would love if I found a boyfriend since the favorite granddaughter is a lesbian and they aren't too thrilled. Makes me wanna fake being gay just to drive them up the wall. Edit: I wanna add that I'm Asexual and I don't have any problems with the LGBTQA+ community, I'm just an asshole and wanna give my family a reason to quit bugging me about being 26 and single.
@@Aster_Risk Yeah I'm 28 and my family gives me a lot of shit for not being married or having a kid. I have a boyfriend that I've been dating a couple years and they are upset we aren't talking marriage or kids yet. It's weird.
I knew both sides, though, let's be honest, a lot of the girls who did seem excited were just acting that way because I'm not sure they knew how else to act.
You know, I thought pregnancy complications would be the main thing this film *could* harp on to get its message across. The danger to a young woman's body and to her potential baby is huge if she's not physically ready to be a mother yet. But no....Don't wanna hit close to home, now do we? One of the pearl clutching karens might have experienced that.
hell, forget young women/teenagers, a pregnancy can fuck you up at any age if the kid comes out the wrong way or squishes one of your organs on their way out/you rest your weight the wrong way when the kid's coming out/something tears inside/the doctors overlook something/etc. One of my friends is a Grown Ass Woman who got possibly-permanent internal damage bc of a less than ideal leg position during birth. Baby pushed too close to the muscles on her hip or something, idk, end result being her sporty ass habits getting shot to hell bc of the pain. (And talking about risks, let's not forget the whole 'baby might absolutely fuck up your bladder whoops' bs that can go down. Nothing like baby-induced incontinency issues at 16/25/30, amirite? /s) Even when the body is fully developed a pregnancy can mess you UP (and that's not even considering people with naturally small waists/etc), so the way this movie absolutely glosses over it is,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Something, jesus.
Which is why I never intend to have children. If I want a child (I doubt I ever will) I'll adopt or become a foster parent. Why contribute to overpopulation when there are so many children on this earth who don't have a stable, loving home? A lot of people think if you don't want to birth your own kids you're selfish, but my sentiments are the exact opposite.
Teen pregancy is horrible a baby needs a home to go into a loving home that can support it. You have to be able to buy the baby food and take care of it. Don't get pregnant until you at least have a job and your own place.
I think the girls are supposed to be around 16 so physically the pregnancy shouldn't be more risky than for an adult woman. But they definitely should have shown more of the regular annoying & uncomfortable parts of pregnancy they made it look like it was fun :/
How come if a girl gets pregnant young or outside marriage shes called a whore and treated like the worst thing in the world yet the guys are treated like nothing and some are treated like victims, it takes two to make a baby dont attack one but not the other
Butt Hz no it didn’t. It came out ahead of its time at the worst era of television, on the worst channel. First, it cost a lot. Second, Fox was constantly green lighting and cancelling shows. Season 4, Episode 1 of Family Guy, opening skit. Fox shuffled the line up around. The good shows were bounced to different time slots to try and get better ratings, but fans lost track of the shows, and they would lose viewers. If they were to have made it now, with Netflix and Amazon Prime and Hulu, it would probably be awesome... if all the actors hadn’t moved on.
It's pretty clear to him that girl wanting to get knocked up = girl wanting to put out, end of story. He's not thinking past the sale to the child support.
@@angrymokyuu1951 Not only that, but knocking a girl up also means don't have to use a condom. Some people care more about feeling good for 2 minutes than someone else's life
I also love how this movie just completely skips over the financial aspect of having a baby as well. It’s one of the most risky and expensive investments you can make as a human being
They didn’t want to show the negatives of pregnancy because they don’t actually want to scare women off from having babies. I know because people do this all the time. Women especially will only go on and on about the wonders of pregnancy to women who haven’t experienced it yet (and especially if they say they’re not interested in ever getting pregnant). One time my friend was telling me the horror story of how awful her son’s birth was and her mother immediately tried to stop her and hastily said, “Don’t tell her that! Now she’ll never want to get pregnant!” Joke’s on her though. I’m infertile.
I would think that they'd want to have it be realistic so it relates to their target audience of moms who don't want their teen daughters pregnant. Then again I also don't see a problem with women not wanting to be pregnant so what do I know 🤷♀️
Ariel Hunt I mean birth rates in first world nations are dropping below sustainable levels, probably because people are like “pregnancy sounds too gross and painful.”
@@christinagarcia9353 Imagine being ok with your nation dying out just so women can feel independent, even though they can still have a career and be a mom at the same time. I'm a girl who plans on having kids, and I know damn well that having a child wont magically enslave me to a life of nothing but motherhood.
Amilah To be fair he doesn’t have to stay to take care of the baby. Technically neither does she she can do adoption. Yeah he should have been smart and settled for a bj but seeing how she continued to manipulate him thru the movie, she probably would have used the ye old turkey baster
My mom got pregnant at 17 in her senior year of HS and this movie annoys me so much there aren’t even words to explain how stupid and unrealistic this movie is
@@ihvojd Not sure if you forgot to put in quotation marks for "true story" cause there was barely a semblence of a pact. None of the 18 girls there conspired to get pregnant.
Not saying your mother is a bad parent for having you so young nor that this film is good in it's crappy portrayal but the stereotypes of teenage mothers exist for a reason, because they're usually shitty people who made bad life decisions. If you grew up in a poor area like I did you'd know first hand. Women forever living on benefits with terrible educations, just pathetic, wasteful lives.
The fact that this movie was made specifically to shame and stereotype pregnant teenagers/women and girls in general for the sake of pleasing Christian conservative audiences is so disturbing to me.
As a conservative around a lot of Christians, this is not it. In fact, pretty much anyone with functional eyeballs could see through this dumb sh*t. I mean they were clearly trying to appeal to the karens who are like crazy strict stereotypical Christians, but failed to realize the percent of people actually like that is extremely low lmao (hence stereotypical)
I think the worst fact is that this film was actually directed by a women who I presumed she would had a little bit of better knowledge of how to handle this issue.
Forget about teen pregnancy I never want to get pregnant, pregnancy just seems so stressful, expensive and time consuming I'm not gonna waste 9 months of my life.
@@rats443 The only problem is that adoption is a long, painful process much like pregnancy. The only difference is with adoption is that the child will have to spend a lot of time with you in order to even slightly trust you. I don’t speak from experience, but adoption is an even crueler for the child. “Hey, little billy, I know you like this place and all but it’s time for you to move away forever (hopefully) into a place with people you know jack sh*t about” still, adoption is giving a child a second chance but just be careful and remember that it is an extremely scary process for the child. And if you want to adopt a teen, you will need the patience of Gandhi.
When I was in middle school, I had a friend who'd never even dated yet that took birth control every day so she didn't have excruciating cramping during her period. She was 12, and just had a really compassionate and educated mother.
They don't care. Even if the pill was only used as a contraceptive 1% of the time, they would still decry it as being wrong and wresting control out of the hands of god. A lot of black and white thinking goes into fundamentalism like that. Something either abides by their interpretation of the bible or it doesn't. There is no gray area. No gradient. No sliding scale. The question they ask is, "Is it used as birth control?" Not, "How often is it used as birth control and what else can it do?" For the people who are against it, it's a yes/no question only.
I mean in this story it doesn’t matter because these girls were purposely getting pregnant, so handing them pills wouldn’t help, because they’d either not take them, flush them, trash them etc
I think it's mostly the conservative "abortion is murder" crowd (even though an abortion is completely different from nutting into a condom and/or taking a pill)
I'm a 15 year old boy, and the concept of kids my age having children of their own keeps me up at night. Once you have a child at an age where you aren't even old enough to drive a damn car, not only is your life ruined, but your child is. Teens (including me) are always irresponsible by default and could guarantee an awful life for a baby.
Conservatives do real Harm. I hope we can vote all against them. Ngl, i risk being overly political here, but lets face it: Ignoring Religion, we have 2 very specific Sources for LGBT-Hate and Science-Denial. I mean, Pregnancy-Pact is by all means the harmless-thing. But not the only thing. The Republicans and Fox-News literally endorse, favor and promote right-now a whole bunch of openly-transphobic Hatepreachers. And if i say Openly i mean O.p.e.n.l.y.
@@iloveladybugs123 yeah, sometimes they would have their parents support and be somewhat responsible, but you still can't glorify that crap. Anyone that does is an incompetent person and nothing but subhuman
@@iloveladybugs123 people that glorify that concept make me appreciate not important from hatred more, and I would feel horrible for anyone that goes through pregnancy when they can't drink
@@Rainbowfox_ you go girl, and more people should be aware of that crap because it scares me more than dead space, and dead space makes me piss my pants
A little detail I noticed that was bothering me: Even if a high school girl was to get pregnant, she’s very likely not gonna be rolling her kid around in a stroller AT SCHOOL (and even if daycare was provided on school grounds, I still don’t think it would work like that). To make that seem so nonchalant is strange.
I have actually heard girls have this conversation in high-school. "If we have babies at the same time, they can all grow up together and be bffs" or "having this baby is going to be beautiful and me and my boyfriend will be together forever." At the time I was a teenage girl and lived with my single mother who made it my responsibility to care for my 3 year old brother. Id roll my eyes because I knew that those were fantasies and that the baby at home I was made to care for was, infact, hard work.
@@vainpiers Me and my friends used to talk about how we were going to be the “cool aunt” to the children of the only one of us who actually wants kids.
I remember my cousin telling me that her friend could possibly get pregnant (they were all barely freshmen, just got out of 8th grade) and that she was going to help take care of her baby and dress it up in cute clothes. I was just dumbfounded. Idk why a 14-15 year old girl would ever *want* to be pregnant. I would also say "why would her boyfriend let her," but he wasn't necessarily a guy who would care, and would probably run off when he realized she would keep the baby. No offense to him. Hopefully the girl got some sense. My school is small, rumors would have went around eventually, so seeing as it didn't, and my cousin isn't saying anything about it, I imagine she never got pregnant (thankfully).
I don’t understand why all the “Christian Moms” in this movie are super against contraceptives. As a Christian myself, I believe that making it impossible for teens to access them doesn’t decrease the amount of teens having intercourse, it just increases the number of pregnant teens. In fact, studies have shown that giving teenagers access to contraceptives doesn’t increase the amount of teen sex at all.
It’s because a good chunk of the US perscrubes to an abstenance only sex education by law and religious organisations like the family institute use it as a way to guilt people into submission to there fucked up idea of family values. It is also a way to segregate women as inferior and sinful for expressing base desires based of there holy text treating woman as chattel where it was common for a father to sell his daughter into sex slavery with the only way to leave being if the master refuses to feed her or too breed her So yeah this is far too common
Because something to note about American Christianity... it developed differently then its European counterpart. Sure, it was post reformation but the thing is European Christianity became more hands off not more material. American christainity became more spiritual and less caring about it as such it was far more morally uptight.
@@jspark8990 Eh, I think it has more to do with how christainity in America never got the material evolution that Europes got. In Europe major Christian political ppwer backs in with Christain Democratic parties that try to maintain a walfare state and express help for the general population while adapting to how they act and even to how society feels. American Christianity never developed that as America was able for a good century and a half use its vast lands to give people land and an opportunity to get wealth. Because of this their wasn't as strong of a societal shift to realigne christainity in America beyond the morality and spirituality. As such it used its political power to fight in the way we are used too.
@@Xo-3130 i think its more america doesn't have as much of a dark age were christianity was theocratic and subjigated everyone due to the democratic process instead of a 'divinely choosen' monarch
@@jspark8990 Eh, the dark age wasn't due to Christianity... actually the chruch tried to maintain the research and information while attempting to keep it going. The instability of the fall if the western empire can be blamed for that. As fir the divine right if kings. Its actually post-medieval and can best be seen as a Post-Reformation thing. Due in part as a reaction of monarchs to the growning centralization of their kingdoms and the power frictions both between them, the nobility and the growing educated and wealthy merchants/population.
The Thora Birch character sucks! She's thinks of herself as a mentor and protector of these girls, but she is a TERRIBLE person: she blurts out their secrets, ignores the principles of age of consent and privacy (can she even interview them as underaged teens?), she manipulated her ex-boyfriend, even barring him from knowing his child's existence or getting custody of it and tries to call out the other reporters on *their* lack of professionalism and morals? Oh, how the mighty have fallen...
Survey-Question (just go with it, please): Wouldnt you prefer it if we had Leaders who know the Internet but didnt embarass-themselves inside-it - or is that just me? I mean, we live in the Internet-Age and so much Data is available+understood. It's not like Rain was understood by People 10000 Years ago: For Example (and just an example!) Prisons. I mean, we just know America's Prison-System is extremly primitiv. That aint a theory or a wild guess, cause other Nations just do it blatantly better. They know better and the USA could just copy them, but do Politicans even know that?? Do they ever watch 'Second Thought' lay out all the facts and Data about this or other stuff?
I hate the fact that this movie portrays teen girls as wanting nothing more in life to get married and be some boy's baby-making machine. It also portrays girls and living only for the attention of men and boys. I want to see more movies of teenage girls that are capable of being normal functioning people while also wanting to actually go somewhere with their lives and not live just to chase boys. This is coming from a 17 y/o girl with dreams to become a heart surgeon and never produce a child
I can relate a lot and I totally agree with you. Also, I want to study medicine too, but I haven't chosen the field yet. Though I think something with eye surgery and/or development of the medication etc. would be great.))
god I hate babies and small children also how about a teenage movie where: The nerd does not "get the girl" and the girl instead is a lesbian because hell yeah
Also the 'girls had babies at younger ages back in that day' thing is a myth. most women would have children from about 18-25. It was only really nobility or wealthy that would have teenage pregnancies. If higher up the social ladder you were expected to get married sooner because marriage was more of a bargaining chip back in those days. So sometimes you had to get married at 16 to prevent a fucking war, keep a royal succession from dying, or just keeping your whole family from going dirt poor. and on top of that most wealthy and noble women did not raise their own kids. they were raised by wet nurses or nannies. Most noble or very wealthy women didn't actually see their children much until they were old enough to conduct themselves in court or the family business. Now women who were lower down the social ladder had a bit more freedom to marry when ever. So some women could get married to their crush they had at 15 as long as both families agree it was a good idea or you could find someone to elope you two. On the other side you could wait until you were practically an old maid to settle down if you wanted. However, either way you could only have babies once married. Once married you had all kinds of help raising a kid since child rearing had a more 'it takes a village to raise a child' approach back in the day. I mean it was not uncommon for mothers to breast feed their friend's baby, so you had a pre-established network of people to help you. But if you were unwed with a baby you were shunned as hell. Pretty much left to die with your sin. you had the choice to keep your baby and beg for scraps or to give your baby up for adoption and start a new life and pray no one finds out you had a kid out of wedlock and wind up begging anyway. So there is yet another reason why that argument is horribly flawed.
@@lukasd.4389 you have a right to your opinion, but I think people getting married because they care about eachother strongly enough that they feel the need to go through the bond of marriage is a wonderful thing. And for the lower classes, that was always an option. Did the marriages always go well? Well no, you could choose the wrong partner and have a horrible marriage. But there are plenty of marriages that make it work or even better! Not to mention that arranged marriage among nobles and royals tended to be incestuous leading to the eventual down fall of many houses due to the genetic defects caused by such relationships (I.e. hapsburg and romanoff). Not to mention that whether or not you had a choice in your partner, there is always the chance it can go wrong. And I would say that arranged marriage more often goes wrong then right. I mean you are being forced to be with someone you never met, people just want you together because their father has money and your father has land. That isn't exactly going to help your compatibility with your partner. Wouldn't you rather be with someone you chose to interact with who had the same interests and a similar personality to you, rather then share a bed with a rando that has absolutely no interest in or even hates you? I mean, finding the right partner seems impossible sometimes, but I for one am glad I have the choice to be with my possible soul mate, rather then miserably long for them in silence as I am stuck with someone who is only with me for money or a title because our parents told us to.
@@sztallone415 yes! Most people had as many kids as their bodies or schedules would allow. So people would often have like 8-12 kids (though some if not most would die in infancy/childhood due to illness, genetic issues, accidents, etc.) or even more. And others would only have a few children due to either fertility issues caused by either parent, they just simply couldn't find time to make children, or even be bothered to do the deed with their spouse. In cases of last reason, most people where happy if they had at least one boy to continue the family name/inherit their father's things. Either way, the care of the children would be done the same depending on rank. Raised by the village for lower ranks or raised by wet nurses and teachers for higher ranks. It wasn't until around the Victorian era where the family dynamics started to change and having larger families were not as ideal for the middle class and the lowest class. (It was too expensive or cramped to have that many kids, also finding time to make the kids issues too.)Though it was still viable for those that managed to hold on to traditional rural lives and wealthy/royals. (They had the time, space, and reason to have as many kids as possible.) Though it was still around this time that families started to have a few less children anyway. It wasn't until about the turn of the century when birth control was first introduced that people started to try and have smaller families (because believe it or not, being constantly pregnant is not fun for your health nor life in general and kids are expensive you know?). And due to the overall change of child rearing (aka parents are supposed do a majority of care for kids, not the teachers, neighbors, babysitters, etc.), better medical care, more forms of birth control becoming available, the rising cost of living, sex education becoming more readily available, etc. The average size of a family went from 6-10 in the 1800's to 2-5 nowadays. Which I have to say is a much better arrangement since everyone involved has a much higher quality of life as compared to our ancestors.
Tricks boyfriend into impregnating her. He finds out the truth and is understandably angry. She acts like her deception was a good thing. He wants nothing to do with her. She wants to talk about their future together by standing there and just stare at him. Brilliant dialogue.🙄
"Because even they can't be stupid enough to fall for this tripe." Hooo boy, I wish. I remember this came out around the same time as that god-awful "Secret Life of an American Teenager" or whatever that show was called, and my mom ate all this shit up. She was constantly asking me really personal questions and inadvertantly fat-shaming me by asking if I was pregnant despite me not being allowed to leave the house or have friends over. Even when I affirmed I was asexual with literally zero interest, she still didn't understand why I wasn't putting myself at risk for teen pregnancy.
my mom used to watch lifetime when I was growing up, but I think only slightly before this movie would have come out? but she also did the random "are you pregnant" pop quizzes despite me never being allowed to leave the house or have friends over. usually right after dinner. personally, I blame Christianity (and lifetime ofc)
Same. I'm 23 too almost 24 and that would TERRIFY me. I'm not even in school or have a career or anything that I'd have to sacrifice like that. Still don't wanna get pregnant. Super scared of that.
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I mentioned this movie in that town a mob planned to hang me until I mentioned the Perfect Storm and they let me live.
Also is life time just a network created to prey on and justify Karen's fears and irrationality?
When 18 girls in a small town become the center of a teenage pregnancy scandal...one middle aged woman in South Florida will take it WAY. TOO. SERIOUSLY!
Florida, nuff said
This sounds like the honest trailer for the movie 😂😂😂
Wait your comment acutally made me think about "Jane the virgin" xD
As a Floridian... yeah that sounds accurate
As someone in Florida, I can confirm
The only credit I’ll give this movie is that the high schoolers actually look like high schoolers.
Yeah I’ll give em that
I was thinking that the whole time
lots of movies during the 2000s either get that perfectly or the actors look so far away from their actual age its distracting from the actual movies and plot
Actually, that sort of worries me more
Itz Kat Same. That realism in the context of the movie is kinda unsettling ngl.
The sequel should be called “Where’s the father?”
Actually that's the sequel to the popular MTV show Teen Mom's. And the answer is always "in jail" or "on a drug binge"
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The fact the pregnancy fan-fics do a better job at writing pregnancies than the writing in this movie is astonishing.
Most mpreg fics are more realistic than this
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@@frankisnot1148 You're actually correct
@@frankisnot1148 I agree and I haven’t even read those.
Fanfic writers will do hours upon hours of research to make sure their abo mpreg slow burn is accurate to real life but this ostensibly realistic film can't even have someone mention their feet hurting
I honestly feel like this movie romanticizes teen pregnancy more than it demonizes it.
I remember the scene where they talk about one of them having an episiotomy and it traumatized me.
I mean, both are shitty. If you demonize teen pregnancy, pregnant teens may get ridiculed and judged based on one bad night. And if you romanticize it, it may cause it to become more common. It’s kinda a shitty situation.
Its also considered the most painful experience known to man. Either first or next to burning alive
I feel like the biggest sin is how inaccurate they depict pregnant girls/women, in terms of symptoms, etc
Jennifer Greene well that goes without saying with the name pregnancy pact
I'm a teen, and the thought of having a baby legitimately terrifies me.
Eliekira same!! Just the thought of me, a 14 year old, having a child makes me want to take a bath in Holy Water
Same but even having a child as an adult scares me
Just be rich and you'll be fine.
i'm almost 23 and a baby terrifies me. i'm always paranoid i'm gonna get pregnant lol
Dude, I'm 24 & having a kid right now? No, just no. I want to be a mom but not right now. I'd rather deal with people & I hate people
Probably the worst part of a movie like this is that the baby's are not treated like people and instead are treated like accessories.
That's how some people treat their kids.
"Let me have this baby so that I can dress it up and it'll just be so much fun"
Exactly what I thought. ☹️
Some people sadly think of them that way.
@@bobbihearn6168 The minute the child develops a mind of their own (anywhere from age 7-14), it's downhill for the child from there. A lot of people fail to realize that, while they are inherently irresponsible while developing, children ARE human beings with diverse intelligence.
@@randombrokeperson happened to me and my bros. Our parents want us to be their doll; they want us to behave dress and speak in a certain way. We cannot express our likes/dislikes and personnalities freely. So please people, stop treating your kids like barbie dolls
I love how the mom keeps talking about how she ‘doesn’t accept birth control in her house’ but... many girls actually *need* it. It doesn’t always have to do with having a baby, it regulates period cycles and helps reduce the pain of cramps. Not allowing a teenager to take birth control if they need it for medical reasons is just stupid
That's an excellent point. I really wish the film could have explored that.
it does more than just stop preggers?
well now i see why people want more of it, that just seems fantastic.
That's why my mom got me and my sisters all on it while on high school
@@no1important777 yep they can help regulate periods, make PMS not as bad, reduce hormonal acne, and make periods lighter or less painful! This is especially important if u have something like endometriosis. Also certain birth control methods can stop the physical periods like IUDs or Depo shots.
@@no1important777 it prevents preganaganennt
Movie logic:
1. If someone capable of pregnancy vomits, they’re up the duff.
2. If literally anyone has a random nosebleed, it’s cancer.
Mae McBride or boys in an anime when seeing a hot girl
It's like how in most films and TV series most of the time when a woman says she has good news it usually means she's pregnant. As if pregnancies are the only good news they can have when it's not.
@@Chaiiuna or they overexerted their psionic powers.
Movie logic:
1. If any pregnant women fall down the stairs, automatic miscarriage the very next hour.
2. All surrogate women are all crazy and will try to kill the mother they are giving their child to.
3. Any person who gets into a car accident either die, or in year long coma.
But to be fair, can a completely random nosebleed happen? I genuinely want to know the chances of a random nosebleed not brought on by any factors
Why does this movie even exist it’s so weird
I just began the video, and i'm already agreeing with you
Yeah like what the friggin heck went into the guys' minds who made this?!?!
@DreiFreitags Fliege Maybe... Or just desperation for a decent paycheck. Who knows...
Agreed, sometimes you have to question why these projects get greenlit in the first place, even if they WERE based on a true story! 🤦🏾♀️😂
Because anything that happens in media they have to make a story of it. And that was how it was with lifetime, law and order, and any movies in Hollywood.
"If your daughter's not home when the sun goes down, she's probably going down on some son."
Yeah, OK. That was pretty clever.
V B as a teen, def would’ve been both
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Or the son is going down on her.
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My Jewish grandparents were so scared after this came out, that I decided to finally come out of the closet as lesbian. This movie has always had a “special” place in my heart because of that
Omg yes lesbian tings😂
They must’ve been relieved
They must’ve celebrated a lot
Bruh
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The one time the actors actually look like high schoolers
Samuel Croll at least they got one thing right
that’s what i was thinking lol like hey at least the actors are actual teenagers lol
Debatable
I love how they talk about playing with the babies, painting their nails and hanging out with them like they’re friends. Just do that with your actual friends??
isn't it like dangerous to paint a baby's nails?
the other guy beats me
i totally agree with you! it's not that hard. you don't need a baby to do those things. just do those things with a friend or your friend group! what's stopping them from doing that?
Dayanara Plata stupidity
I know this is kinda off topic but in my high school we hung out with this guy. He was really popular because he acted quite feminine. Some of the other guys made fun of him but we brought him into our friend group. It turned out he was actually into crossdressing and we did things like that to him and he enjoyed it.
Moral of the story if your in high school and want to paint someone's nails and dress them up. Just do it with your friends.
Teens in this movie: “Jamie Lyn Spears is a teen mom so I wanna be one too”
Actual teens when that happened: “Damn you Jamie now they gotta cancel Zoey 101”
I laughed at this more than i should have. Thank you.
So true tho 😅
Everyone was pissed😂
Damn haven’t heard that show in a decade
Truuuuuuuue!
"You can't tell anyone"
Like, people are probably gonna get suspicious when you all put on 30 pounds at the same time.
And all suddenly just loose it after like 9 months.
You can’t hide an obvious baby bump either
Not to mention the skin tight shirts some of them wear
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" I take a year off and play with the baby" - yes cause baby is a vacation and it lasts only a year.. 🤦🏼♀️
and after that year, a lifetime of sacrifice for a little person that MIGHT thank her (someday)
If anything It’d be a week maybe 2
Thirteen years and counting
Right? After their one-year-old that’s when they get really hard to take care of
Under their care it WILL last for only a year.
This movie literally encourages irresponsible behavior and teenage pregnancy.
Yep. They still make the babies seem like good things at the end of the day. So I'm not sure who they're advocating for
They do present babies as little dolls that you can play with and dress up for fun... like NO!
A baby is a human who shit, cry, need food and medical care. They also forgot to mention the joy of post partum....
Dévil Léo also they grow up
Autism God I think what really irked me about this movie was the underage drinking WHILE PREGNANT! I hate movies that glorify underaged drinking/drug use without showing the consequences (granted it shows some consequences in this movie but still)
@@evelynsteger436 one girl smoked
Moral of this movie: Girls don’t want to pursue their dreams or even go to college, all they want to do is to become pregnant and get married!
For any future people in this comment's replies incase you didn't get it this person is being sarcastic (at least I think)
@@magicblaze1553 I was don’t worry and I think I speak for Deborah here as well (I hope, too)
The rundown: All teens are stupid and exactly like this. The only thing teenage girls want is boys attention and to have their babies. Also while pregnant they will still be drinking because booze and parties are the only thing they do in their pastimes. Oh and yes karen you're daughter will jump off a bridge if her friends do it!! They also will never feel bad about anyone they hurt in the process because... teenagers am I right?!
Sounds like Stephanie Meyer's motto.
Bruh, these girls acting like babies are little toy dolls. -_-
They are 15 after all. They probably think babies are the same thing as a toy doll
Brittany Bennett because those people who think babies are like dolls never experienced real responsibility. And then will probably grow up to be those parents who want their kids to have kids so they can play grandparent.
Reminds me of an episode of Maury
@@pixiewolf333 oh my GOD
"My name's Victoria, I'm 15 years old, and I don't care what my mama says, I'm GONNA have a BABY"
Kay Hope Then they actually spend 5 minutes with a baby, and suddenly they go “NOPE no babeyz for me!!!”
Sure some teens want to have babies. But in real life, teens know that they should wait until they’re older. Because- and I know this might be surprising- teenagers aren’t morons.
You'd be surprised. The decision/judgment and risk/reward sections of the human brain are the most unstable during teenage hood and aren't fully developed until you're like 19-21ish. But that's not to say they're stupid or morons. Just reckless and(depending on the person) naive. This of course doesn't apply to all teenagers, as they are their own people and have different personalities and make their own decisions, but the thing about the brains is applicable to all teenagers.
@@DewSocks *dancing to death* 🐩
"teenagers aren't morons" yes they are. Everyone is a moron.
Bobit boo Some
@@DewSocks That doesn't make them stupid though. Everyone in this movie is a brain dead moron. Yeah teens can be impulsive but this shit is just plain ridiculous
Movies like this and Wattpad authors seem to think teen pregnancy is this magical thing that isn't a time-consuming job that would realistically wear down on a high school girl. No one that age is mentally ready to be a parent and it makes me angry when stories portray teenage girls as so completely delusional and ignorant.
Exactly, not to mention the expense... like whose paying for childcare... grown adults can't even afford that. Also you can not bring your kid to school while you take classes... like wtf?!? So are these girls dropping out of HS then?? It's so unrealistic.
Mostly writers who believe relationships abusive or toxic is beautiful-even with gay couples. You can not imagine how many hate comments I get when I made these kinds couple split up (or put in jail/death of one)
Plot twist it ended up making me want to become a horror writer -_-
It's sad because there are good Wattpad authors who get drowned out by the bad ones
@@ZyroShadowPony I was thinking of writing my NaNoWriMo novel on wattpad since it's so easy to use. It's about a musician who experiences alzheimers.
@@apolloandwarrior_3229 You should definitely try it out. It sounds really interesting. What music genre will the musician be?
“And while the boys who knock them up are given a slap on the wrist, the film places the majority of the responsibility and blame on the girls themselves”
I mean, that part’s realistic at least
Are you kidding me? Did you know that women have begun suing their sperm bank donors for child support? Do you have any idea how much "child support" actually is? The woman usually doesn't even have to work. Taking well over half of every paycheck you make for 18 years is not a "slap on the wrist". Get your feminist mythology out of here.
@@ananthropomorphictalkinggo6641 thats a lot of words for "i have never been laid"
@@ananthropomorphictalkinggo6641 first off, we're gonna need a source for that sperm donor claim.
Second, op was not talking about that, but a quote from the review stating that the pregnant teens in the movie were given pretty much all the blame for the pregnancies but not the baby daddies.
Op is stating that this is similar to real life because teen girls in real life are told things like "you shouldn't have let him get you pregnant" which shifts all of the blame to the girl and off of the guy. Like Cynical Reviews said, it takes 2 to tango and both should take responsibility for their actions.
@@mrh8142 the sperm donor thing happened in kansas, it won't let me link a site with "sperm" in the address. And are you kidding me? If you're dumb enough to get pregnant in high school, you deserve to be shamed. You know how it works, so ignorance isn't an excuse. They don't ID for condoms, and they give them out free at clinics, so why would anyone have sympathy for the devil?
@@mrh8142 love how this dude is like 'well yt allegedly wont let me link any sources, so im just completely unable to verify them at all!' like man thats crazy how conveniently that worked out for you. doesnt make you look like you're incompetent or full of shit at all
What this film doesn't mention: Dangers of early pregnancy, symptoms and signs of a miscarriage or a miscarriage at all, risks that develop as you go further along like disease, the impact of fetal alcohol syndrome, birth defects, complications, different types of pregnacies and the emotional part of pregnancy.
So everything👀
Funworks 163 I mean it’s lifetime are we surprised 🤣🤣🤣
The fact that FAS was not addressed just baffles me. That shit is no joke. Drinking while pregnant will affect a baby for their whole life. The stunted growth and learning abilities? That is hard to deal with and hard to watch.
Getting preggo as a teen also causes alot of problems for the mom herself like you stop growing all the standerd sypmtoms are worse and it fucks with ur brain develpment
I’m gonna stop reading the comments. On the one hand, I agree with what everyone is saying. On the other hand, thinking about this makes me sad.
The school claimed it was a Pregnancy Pact so they wouldn’t have to teach actual sex education, which is the actual cause of teen pregnancy lack of comprehensive sex education.
I don't know why the school didn't taught them Sexual education, was it too awkward or Taboo? i had my first sexual education class at age 10 for Zeus's sake.
@@romanov3937 its elective. Parents can choose for their children not to have sex ed.
Ruslan Draganofi I had it in 7th grade for the first time and they didn’t even teach us about protection they just taught us about abstinence 🤦🏿♀️
@@romanov3937 Evangelical parents complain if the schools teach safe sex because apparently they are encouraging kids to fuck. Abstinence does work 100% of the time in preventing pregnancy, however it's not reliable be cause teens are going to fuck regardless
@@nikolnolastname4473 That's the most idiotic thing I've heard in a long time, bloody hell! In my country it's literally just another part of the biology curriculum - when you're done with learning about photosynthesis and the cardiovascular system you move on to talking about erogenous zones and how sperm travels from the testicles lol
“1in 6 girls in the United States will actually have a child before she’s the age of 20”
I LITERALLY SCREAM LAUGHED WHEN I HEARD THAT LINE. WHAT WORLD DO THESE PEOPLE LIVE IN?
ikr
@Lowkey Loki lol do you even math bro?
"Citation fucking needed"
@Lowkey Loki It's... actually 18.8 per 1,000....
@Lowkey Loki you probably were told that by the same type of people who created the "facts" for this film
"18 girls did get pregnant within a year, which is a lot" bruh at my highschool they literally talked about turning the home ec room into a daycare because there were sooooooo many teen mothers
Yikes.
Yeah your school probably needed to have a health Ed class sooner 💀
And I thought my home ec class was bad because I couldn’t use the sewing machine. (The teacher also turned out to be kinda racist afterward, so I guess home ec class is cursed)
my high school had a whole ass daycare center, and other students could add easy volunteer hours by helping out.
Soo many Pronatalists.
🤢
"I'll feed them every single day."
Come again? As opposed to what - every other day?! You don't get brownie points for feeding your baby everyday, _several_ times a day. Anything less, is just child abuse. What is this film?
Minor correction, she said "We'll coo them dinner everyday" which I assumed she meant as opposed to takeout, or lunchable type options.
@@tradbimbo Thanks for the correction, but again, we talking about _babies._ Lunchables and take-aways should not even be a thing in their minds! My God! XD
@@tradbimbo I assumed she meant "I'm going to just cook for them when they're old enough for solids, no takeouts" to which I, as a mom, say "HA!". Half the time, my toddler won't eat any big cooked meals, so she's just signing herself up for frustration and lots of leftovers.
@@FunZies. No I Definitely agree ! But knowing how these people acted their stupid enough to do something like that haha
It's like she is asking for a fucking puppy!
I don't think it was inappropriate for the blogger lady to buy condoms for the teenager. In fact, it was probably the best decision made by anyone in the entire movie.
That's what I was thinking
To be fair the decision standard was NOT high
Too bad they weren’t used
right. he doesnt get it lmfao. some of the things he said in this video are wrong. like there was nothing else the nurse could do. its on the girls and their parents.
That's what I thought!
Is no one going to mention that this is an film is an insult for how they portray teen dads? Not all teen dad's are deadbeats. My cousin was a teen dad and he loves his kids, he's worked hard to provide for them and the mother of his children.
He sounds like a good man
Yep all the characters in the movies are nothing more than stereotypes, no character depth to be seen anywhere
Most of the men who impregnate teenage girls are also... y'know, men. Not teenage boys. So it would've been nice if the movie acknowledged that, too, as well as showing a more supportive teenage dad.
@@dalailarose1596 yeah you'd think if they really wanted to up the scaremongering they could've easily rolled pedos into it too, but then they'd be opening a whole other can of worms to butcher into their horrifically simplified plot as well.
Thank him for his service
Stacy: "Why aren't you helping me?"
Stacy's mom: "Because you knew better"
No she didn't. She never got the chance to know better. In fact, the mom and her whole Family Friendly Fuckheads Committee fought hard specifically to make sure that she wasn't legally allowed to know any better. Then called it Mission Accomplished when she lost access to her last reliable source of information that could've prevented her current predicament.
She wasn't any help either. She never told her daughter a damn thing until it was too late. Which is strange because her entire stance is that the parents should be the ones to teach them, not the schools.
Savage
You would think they would just get a abortion, but I guess her mother is against that
@@rickyluman3915 Ironically (in the mother's point of view),the Bible ain't very Pro-life
Numbers 5:11-31
2 Kings 8:12
2 Kings 15:16
Deuteronomy 28:18, 53
Hosea 9:10-26
Jeremiah 44:7-8
Isaiah 13:18
Exodus 21:22-25
@@DragonGoddess18 yep, what a pro-life God Christians have. That flood was so pro-life. (In case it's not clear, I'm being sarcastic.)
Stacy's mum needs to take long walk off short pier
Honestly i don't know if these people have even been teenagers, it's like they they portray teenagers as animals who cannot think, and they forget this kids are studying in highschool
Ever seen the Secret Life of the American Teenager? That show makes almost every teenager look like a sex-maniac.
Marina lmao sex maniacs who don’t know how to talk like an actual person or about anything else but sex hahaha
as a teen can comfirm we all want to get pregnant
@@elizabethw1206 I'm gonna have to excommunicate you from the church of "teen", Elizabeth
@@elizabethw1206 as a teen can confirm we all DON'T want to get pregnant
the worst part is that they make it an exclusively girl problem, getting pregnant is a two player game and there is never any blame on the guys
For real, that's the most annoying part.
And i literally don't belive that EVERY single boy that make the girls pregnant didn't wanted to at least meet their baby, i mean, i get is comon for boys to walk out when they get a girl pregnant but come on! I know there are boys that want to he parents or will at least help with monney.
@@despinasgarden.4100 I don't wanna be a dad yet.
@@redhood7650 and that okay! I don't want to be a mom either, but what i'm trying to say is that at least some of the baby daddy's of the girls in the movie would have helped or wanting to meet their kids.
@@despinasgarden.4100 well that's obvious
I don’t get how the movie just glosses over the drinking while pregnant and likelihood of Fetal Alcohol Syndrome. It’s such a gross misrepresentation of the dangers involved with pregnancy, especially where alcohol is involved.
My take is that the "school" did not have any Sex Ed courses or the kids haven't gotten to the chapter where they learn about potential dangers to a fetus' physical and cognitive development, including teratogens, pollution, alcohol, smoke, etc
@@jadahayden1130 My school had no sex ed outside AIDS lessons, but we all knew what contraceptives were useful for what, and how smoking and drinking could cause developmental dysfunction in the fetus or even stillbirth. These girls, as they are portrayed, are straight psychopathic. Probably want their kids to turn out disabled because they think it will make them even more doll-like.
I ... oh god, it’s gross just thinking about it. There are forums on four Chan for this bull#$&*.
not related but i was your 666th like
Lzy G
My school’s sex ed consisted of: abstinence. Don’t send people nudes.
We never heard the word contraceptive. This was less than a year ago, and that was the only health/sex education we’re ever going to get. :’) I’m glad I have the internet and educated parents, or else I’d be royally fucked.
Not gonna lie Jesse leaving the self-absorbed girlfriend, who wanted him to give up his entire future, was probably the best decision in the entire movie.
Agree. She got pregnant on purpose to make him stay with her forever.
There's also the assistant who chose not to participate in the events of the movie
Johnny blaze! Ride off into the hellfire, alone and unburdened
His whole speech berating her for what she did was actually pretty decently acted too.
So as retarded as this movie is, it gets at least a few points.
@@Irongaze86 Shouldn't have gotten his dick wet.
This is portraying girls as just plain stupid and making it seem they have no ambitions. Thanks.
@Christopher Merunka ;-;
Exactly how i feel with my family right now. The really think im THIS dumb as if I dont have goals and can’t think for myself
yea.
It kinda does tho
Wait a minute...this is trying to make housewives
"This is so bad"
Perfectly Captures this movie...
It sure does
Yep, I haven't seen the movie since it first premiered a decade ago, and I greatly approve of this comment! 😁😉💜
Yes you are a UNIT.
I think I'm more apt the statement would be "this is bad, women"
I mean back with my mom kind of like lifetime all the time just about every movie you saw had a female protagonist going up against an evil man woman or child literally no one and nothing was safe for women to interact with that didn't want to kill them or ruin their life I'm just sitting around thinking this is terrible and I was like 10 or 11 when I was watching this stuff I was just thinking how could anyone be allowed to put such obvious bullshit on TV
"I'm gonna cook her dinner EVERY night!"
-- the biggest lie of the movie
I dubt she even knows how to cook
*AT NIGHT*
Of course she will. Straight from the freezer to the microwave. She'll get the babysitter to do it, so it's basically like she's doing it herself, right?
*Press X to doubt*
-> Get pregnant
-> Have no idea how to take care of the baby
-> Dump the baby on your parents
-> ...
-> Profit
Hey! Here's a crazy idea.
What about schools start actually teaching kids how to prevent pregnancy?!
Crazy, am I right??
Well you know... 'Murica!
Good idea!
I feel like my school is the only one who actually has a good helth ed smh
that would require the school board to have more than two brain cells though.
I’m glad I’m born male, asexual and gay. Definitely made me worry less about getting anyone pregnant.
Juno is a better movie than this. It had a hamburger phone.
Still, in both movies, the boys are let off the hook.
@@toast9928 sorry wrong number. 📞
@@floraposteschild4184 As opposed to what? Executing them for getting ditsy broads pregnant?
It really is, it actually does well at depicting a pregnancy somewhat realistically, if in a quirky way.😁
Look, Juno maybe bland to other people,but it doesn’t have the cliches of them staying together and raising a baby. That’s all I’m saying. Plus she gave the baby to someone who wanted to be a mom.
'just buy them animal crossing they'll never leave the house again'
I feel attacked
... is he wrong tho? V":
That's me. I haven't left my house at all.
Well, we have the social distancing excuse.
Fuck it's on the switch. I go outside and play it. Get some inspiration for me town. The weather is lovely.
Yikes forever!
@@strikeforce1500 Nah, it's true. Animal crossing is a time sink, that's why I'm not sure if I should buy it right now :L
As a resident of Louisiana. I feel obliged to apologize for this movie simply because it was filmed here
Apology accepted
My mom was born in Louisiana. I accept your apology.
Apology accepted
if anything the guy who made it should apologies to everyone who lives in Louisiana for making it associated with the state
Imagine if it was alabama.
My cousin joined a pregnancy pack when she was a junior in high school. She and her friends had the same delusions as the girls in the movie. Fast forward to 11 months later and all she did was complain that her son would not shut up, that he was so needy, the father literally wanted nothing to do with her and that she missed having fun like normal teenagers. Meanwhile I was literally the only one in my family who said that she made the biggest mistake of her life.
You had a point there why would a teen decide to just waste 18 years of their life on a child when they are still a teen!
I hope he was given up for adoption.
A girl that young is not capable of that and that is so...I'm sorry but you're right. This is why they shouldn't have stopped the fake baby thing. Less kids would have kids when they weren't ready.
You know the fake baby's I'm talking about? The ones that cry and need to be changed and fed. Definitely kept people baby free. I'm surprised they don't do this very often anymore.
It's because pregnancy and babies are glorified. No one talks about the work it takes.
@@kalenhuntley3508 Honestly, I don't know how many schools show birthing videos, but that would help too. At no point will a girl walk away wanting that. Even a more accurate description of pregnancy would help. Yes, some people go through it with no or very little problem. But others end up on bed rest with gestational diabetes and shit.
The worst part was the scene with her holding her baby. She held it so awkwardly it's painfully obvious that wasn't her kid.
The babies aren't actually real
You haven’t met my little sister. That girl has no maternal instinct and I fear for my niece and nephew.
This is such a small part to harp on but the whole “Jamie Lynn Spears was a teen parent so I want to be one too” is so stupid. I’m a few years younger than Jamie Lynn and for me and my friends her getting pregnant was a huge *teen pregnancy is bad* moment. We saw how she was smeared in the media, listened to many of the adults around us call her horrible names, and watched as her career was ruined. Nobody saw her experience and wanted to be like her. That’s just such an out of touch adult thing to put in the script lmao.
Agreed. I remember how her bf was three years older than her so 19 and I was horrified and grossed our how a 19 yr old could sleep with a 16 yr old 😂😂
I was around 12 when that happened. I just felt so sad for her. I hadn't even seen anyone else react, and I knew it was bad news.
I remember how it was all over the news and tabloids. I can’t imagine how hard it must’ve been not only having to deal with having a baby at 16 but the entire world knowing about it and people being so mean nonstop. I wouldn’t wish that on anyone.
@Tianruo Yang The real issue is that apparently he wasn't even the dad, and she had been groomed by the producer of the show who was like 40 years old. I remember when that can of worms exploded.
Mae McBride
Also, pedantic fact, Jamie Lynn Spears wasn't really known for anything other than Zoey 101 so I don't why these girls act like she was an A-lister in 2008.
"Contraceptives suck!"
Apparently none of these women have heard of: unusually excruciating periods, premenstrual dysphoria and iron deficiency anemia.
Yes, and also acne, which might be treated with birth control pills too.
@Usuário Sarcástico You've copy/pasted that same reply from another comment...
Even in the context of sexual intercourse, it's still okay to use contraceptives.
@Usuário Sarcástico Alright, I'll bite. What the fuck is unethical about contraceptives?
Unfortunately, in a lot of religious communities those issues do not matter. Contraception is discouraged.
Y'all, I talked to someone whom I associate with & I mentioned I take birth control for my excruciating cramps & NOT for being sexually active. She then went on to say that I'm committing genocide & that I should eat fruit for a month to ease my cramps.....ummm what? First of all, what am I killing when I'm not even remotely sexually active & 2, what does eating straight up fruit & drinking fruit juices for a month really gunna do for me? It may work for someone but not me & that truly annoyed me because every female body is different but yet she told me to do something that isn't even in my lifestyle of eating fruit all the damn time🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️
"Back then girls our age were having kids"
Yes, when they had a husband to provide for them and, depending on how far back you go, had already been married three years!
Also, girls back then were more or less trained from the crib to be mothers and housewives and nothing more
Not so often. Also unavailable young men who make shitty dads and lots of divorce....or divorce is too hard to get and the couple is miserable forever. Women werent happy having their lives cut off because they were expected to get married and not work after having a child...and not all guys were that keen on being a dad and strapped down to take care of a woman and kids. That's just a messed up system
I can sum up this whole movie in one word
*“Ew”*
I am not hating, I am merely conversating
😂
It's weird seeing this after I just finished rewatching ygotas
The only good thing about Lifetime movies is the fact that Cynical Reviews is there to tear them a new one. So from the bottom of our hearts, thank you for your service.
And Ralphthemoviemaker
And let’s not forget the portrayal of teen dads! I’m a teen baby, and my dad has given SO much for me, they aren’t all deadbeats!
Tell your dad a random person on the internet thinks he's awesome :)
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PoisonTippedSword
🙌 For your dad! 😄
Your dad is a great guy. ❤
PoisonTippedSword my dad is the same, he got full custody of my big brother and I and he worked SO hard all through his 20s to support us. If anyone’s a deadbeat, it’s my insane mother. She acts like an adult toddler, I swear, my 4 year old half brother is better behaved than she is!
Kids who are born like this are bound to live difficult lives. This movie doesn’t even try to hide the fact that it’s glorifying this crap... Atrocious cinematography/dialogue/acting aside, the point this movie throws across is so stupid
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"That's right mums. If your daughter isn't home by the time the sun goes down, she's probably going down on some son."
Honestly the best thing that will ever be associated with this movie in any way.
Sun: *goes down*
Me out of nowhere when I’m out: *gets pregnant*
@@Name-tn1zg Randomness is FUN,
so here, have some recommendations cause we do live
in a Quality-Drought:
-Critical Drinker.
-Krimson Rogue.
-Forrest Valkai.
-Its ok to be smart.
-Genetically Modified Sceptic.
-Cosmic Sceptic.
-Believe it or not.
And the Best for Last (but his videos are long, so well...): Hbomberguy!
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@@slevinchannel7589 I didnt get the notification of this comment until a year later. It was random lol
@@Name-tn1zg !!!!!!
@@slevinchannel7589 are these books?
I read Ripley’s believe it or not all the time
grandparents:
"teenagers sleeping around getting pregnant all the time, disgraceful!"
also grandparents:
* had 3 kids before dropping out of highschool *
Also while we're on the subject, drugs use, school violence, rape, traditional bullying, etc, it's all been going down for the last half century.
@@Don-ds3dy It's almost as if the "good old days" may be a tad overrated..
At least they had the courtesy that all kids had the same parents...
Well, to be devil's advocate, your grandparents needed to have more babies because some would most likely die early. In addition their economy was in a much better state (one man could bring all the bread home, didn't take two incomes to maintain the family/home.) Although love children were definitely frowned upon back than.
First world girls of 2010+ have all the information/warnings at their fingertips so they have far fewer excuses.
To be fair... viable jobs that didn't require much of an education were in ample supply back then. Houses were actually affordable. So as long as they got married & provided the stable family unit for those 3 kids, that was generally enough to get their life together.
This movie failed to tell kids that pregnancy is the easy part of having a kid .. Because when it's born that's when the real challenges start
No everything about having children from birth to them moving out on their own is absolute hell. I never want to have children ever.
As a kid I can confirm that I am a little shit
A muggle watching muggle things the muggle way 😂😂😂
And that pregnancy itself is also a fucking awful experience.
@@cassualtea2040 basically life threatening!
i think the biggest problem with this movie is that it paints teen pregnancy to be this “fun adventure” when quite realistically it can ruin your life so incredibly quickly. no teenager is mature enough to care for a baby, especially when they clearly don’t have a solid job that can sustain not just themselves but a baby as well. and while pregnancy is a beautiful and amazing thing, it also has massive downsides that this movie seems to completely overlook. it’s genuinely surprising that this movie was made by a women, because i’d assume a woman would know more about pregnancy.
I really wish that had been the theme of the movie. It would have been way more interesting.
Well it is kinda like swipe older woman stereotyping younger women and trying to hold the moral high ground
Meanwhile for those who want to have babies, so many things can go wrong
I was at my neighbour's house with my parents for dinner a few months ago. She works as a teacher. Let me tell you, she's seen how teen pregnancy and super early parenthood can RUIN girls and women's lives first hand. Honestly the horror stories shes witnessed are good free birth control.
"It's going to be fetch!"
Stop trying to make fetch happen,it's never gonna happen
😂😂
I understood that reference
I see you're a person of culture
Hey mean girls. Nice
A quote from a legend
"If your daughter's not home when the sun goes down, she's probably going down on some son"
- Karen Allan Poe
Poetic Justice
Tu Mom *son
Bruh they act as all teen girls want is to have a baby when its literally most people's nightmare to be a teen mom. Like sure some teens wanna have kids but most of us are just trynna enjoy life and not have a child lmao
i want a baby sure but if i got pregnant right now i would feel bad for the kid because i know i would be a shitey parent lol
*sigh* as a 17 year old female, I will say this. Baby fever is a real thing. Sometimes the idea of having a child is wonderful, sometimes it’s the overly romantic way adults talk about children. However, any rational teenager understands that they can’t take care of themselves, so taking care of another human is out of the question. Some people do so anyway, some are fine, others flop harder than a dropped waffle. Also. Way to blame women for something that is usually out of their control. Some women are tricked. Christ sake
A great solution to baby fever is to just have dolls. My mom bought me two lovely silicone reborn dolls that I can carry or bring to stores or buy clothes for them.
@@shadowfoot2486 I have a small dog now that helps. And I actually don’t like kids anymore lol
@@dreamsofcrows2718 lol. I think as time goes by it's less of a novelty, it's not hip and cool or romanticized anymore, after all this comment is 3yrs old. I too have a small dog and she's definitely easier to care for than any baby I've met.
Love how they manage to push their strollers down a highschool hallway. In real life it already would have been tipped over by the stampede of kids trying to sprint to their next class in under 3 minutes while maintaining their own little friend herds
Tru
*Splat*
Facts
“Fuck where did my baby go-“
@@Rainbowfox_ *dead baby on floor*
"But their school principal and the medias concocted a story of pregnancy pact"
How to avoid criticisms for not being able to give basics biological and sexuality lessons XD
Yeah that's why I'm glad my 8th grade class did do all that
Except that there is a legitimate psychological reason why they would do it. It’s much more than just biology.
@@awesometown1000 yeah but actually knowing about pregnancies and sex would help a lot it's cause it doesn't get talked about that they don't understand the consequences
My first thought when I heard that the principal made it up lol
My thoughts exactly.
“Oh, this totally didn’t happen because we teach abstinence only/contraception is unreliable, it must be because they PLANNED it! Yeah!”
as a human incubator myself, most of the time pregnancy is relatively uneventful, but, i’ve never met a single pregnant woman who *didnt* complain about the aches and pains. It’s literally the worst thing about being pregnant, besides labor. Something that *is* true is, most of the blame is definitely put on the girls.
"Human incubator" kinda just made me laugh
@@gircakes not for everyone. It varies greatly from person to person. My mother was incredibly happy and content during her pregnancy but I also know people who have gone through nighmare pregnancies of constant nausea, pain, insomnia, general discomfort and even mild depression. You unfortunately can't predict how your own pregnancy will turn out to be.
@@gircakes From my personal experience being six months pregnant right now, you will get aches and pains from stomach down to your legs. It will reach a point where it will be nearly impossible to shave your legs. Some women experience morning sickness, others experience more fatigue. It all depends upon the person and how they are built too. It can be a good or bad experience.
@@gircakes I have 3 children ranging from 11 to 3 weeks old and none of my pregnancies were the same. My first was easy. Like nothing changed apart from the bump obviously. Second one I spent most of it with awful pelvic pain, restless leg syndrome, heartburn, headaches and back pain. 3rd was pretty easy again apart from some mild sickness at the beginning and by then I'd been diagnosed with a heart condition which was aggravated by the pregnancy. Undoubtably my children made it worth every single pain. You kinda, forget (maybe not the best word) most of it. Some women have horrendous pregnancies with endless sickness and life threatening issues which are fairly rare. Thats where its important to have good healthcare and supportive families.
My mother had three pregnancies. My older sister caused her a lot of pain and then it turned out that she could have not survived if the doctors hadn't noticed something was wrong with the baby, she had preeclampsia with me and I was born too early. The fact that the last pregnancy was uneventful is surprising considering she was already 40 years old and usually those are high risk. Later on, her gynecologist said that she was still very fertile, but my mother was like "Tie those tubes up!"
When I was around eleven, my old man laid out exactly how expensive me and my siblings were. That was all I needed to know. Nobody needed to preach to me about STDs or any of that crap.
Survey-Question (just go with it, please): Wouldnt you prefer it if we had Leaders who know the Internet but didnt embarass-themselves inside-it - or is that just me? I mean, we live in the Internet-Age and so much Data is available+understood.
It's not like Rain was understood by People 10000 Years ago:
For Example (and just an example!) Prisons.
I mean, we just know America's Prison-System is extremly primitiv. That aint a theory or a wild guess, cause other Nations just do it blatantly better. They know better and the USA could just copy them, but do Politicans even know that?? Do they ever watch 'Second Thought' lay out all the facts and Data about this or other stuff?
"Back then girls our age were having children"
Yes, they were. And they hat litterally no use OUTSIDE of this task. They weren't allowed to own a house or ANYTHING for that matter, they weren't allowed to hold a job, they didn't inherit, they weren't allowed to divorce or even pick their partner...
Sounds just peachy!
They had to. Do you know the child mortality rate back then.
@@allhailthewhale1423 In fact, I do. I studied archaeology. =P But you are right, that's a point I didn't even add. xD
@@Thanathos1991 Depending on how far back you go, the mother could die from a miscarriage without a c cut.
@@nathanschmitz2302 Absolutely!
Depends on the social strata
When I was a junior in high school, we had one of those classes that had you take care of a robot baby for a few days. You had to have it in class, take it home, basically keep it with you at all times because it cried/needed food/needed to be changed at random intervals. The longer it went unattended the worse your grade for the assignment was, so you couldn’t just leave it somewhere and fuck off doing something else. It was a miserable nightmare to deal with as a teen and really cemented my desire to never have children. I remember snapping at some point when it woke me up at 3am screeching for food, but wouldn’t go back to sleep no matter what i did, so i put it in the dryer to muffle it and went back to sleep. I also had someone throw it off the roof for me to try to catch but that was just me being irresponsible and spiteful of this robot cretin.
Regardless, i think assignments like that are so goddamn important and every school should invest in horrible robo children. I didn’t go to a well-funded US public school- but we had a handful of babybots and they were given out to a few students every week during whatever life management unit we were going through that required it. Hammering home some of the more simple realities of having a kid, especially as a teenager, is really important. You can tell a teenager having a kid will suck, how tiring it’ll be, how it could ruin your life, but until some people actually experience it, it’s all empty words.
This was a huge rant, but in summary: fuck this movie.
Ok how you treated that is so fucked up it’s hilarious and thankfully for me I never had to do this! I am done with regular schooling and I never did this!
_horrible robo children_
Great comment, I agree with everything you said, but when you said that you put it in the dryer I died.
Babybot sounds adorable
to be fair id put it in the dryer too
FYI, the hymen isn't a freshness seal. It doesn't "break" during intercourse, leaving the person physically changed forever. It can tear if you're too rough, but it won't if there's enough lubrication and both parties are sufficiently gentle. The myth of "breaking" the hymen is stupid and harmful, since it perpetuates the idea that sex should hurt. It shouldn't, ever (unless you're into that).
Also I got a birth control ad on this video, lol
Tbh, the hymen often break during physical activity (like sports) and doesn't really hurt, but can bleed a little. If intercourse hurts, you're doing it wrong. Lube, trust and being relaxed helps a lot, since a womans vajayay tightens up if you're anxious (not in a good way, it'll hurt if you're rough). But the whole "you're only pure and a real virgin if there's blood on the sheets" idea is 100% inaccurate.
Well you're wrong... Of course it will hurt your first time lol.
if you properly prepare the woman then it doesnt. if you just stick it in with no prior foreplay or prepping then its gonna hurt. however thats not gonna be cause its your first time
I heard the hymen is too thin that to some people it breaks during sports/period...soooo no hymen= no virgin is a myth too
@@yuki97kira Yea. Plus like all the other parts of your body it can heal.
Abstinence only isn't going to reduce pregnancies. For one, you can't just turn off teenage hormones. No amount of abstinence only lecturing will achieve that. But also, if there's one thing history should teach any of us, its that if you ban something, not only will it not reduce how often people do it, but you'll likely achieve the opposite effect. People will just get really good at doing it secretly.
There are some things you just can't realistically stop. The most pragmatic approach is to give them the tools and education they need to do it safely. Anything less is putting your own morals ahead of the wellbeing of your children.
Also, no matter how hard you teach something is bad, someone is going to try to do it, so you need to take steps to mitigate it. You need a censor to keep kids from hearing curse words. You need a lock to keep someone from stealing your stuff. And you need contraceptives to keep teens from getting pregnant.
That, sadly, would require effort on the part of school boards.
And because of the severe taboo, they won’t do it responsibly since they don’t know the dangers. So if something happened, they won’t know how to get help or even want help for fear of being shamed/punished
How in the world is it difficult to not have sex as a teen
Girls I went to high school with who got pregnant back then were anything but excited about it nor were they desperate to get pregnant in the first place.
I knew a girl in high school that got pregnant and was excited about it, a couple in fact. It’s way more unsettling than the girls who are terrified. They weren’t trying to get pregnant, but it was all baby showers and excited grandparents. It was like I was on another planet.
@@nova_beam Honestly, I have the kind of family who would have liked that. I'm almost 30 now, married and no kids yet. They're pretty sad about it.
Alicia my dad's family would love if I found a boyfriend since the favorite granddaughter is a lesbian and they aren't too thrilled. Makes me wanna fake being gay just to drive them up the wall.
Edit: I wanna add that I'm Asexual and I don't have any problems with the LGBTQA+ community, I'm just an asshole and wanna give my family a reason to quit bugging me about being 26 and single.
@@Aster_Risk Yeah I'm 28 and my family gives me a lot of shit for not being married or having a kid.
I have a boyfriend that I've been dating a couple years and they are upset we aren't talking marriage or kids yet. It's weird.
I knew both sides, though, let's be honest, a lot of the girls who did seem excited were just acting that way because I'm not sure they knew how else to act.
You know, I thought pregnancy complications would be the main thing this film *could* harp on to get its message across. The danger to a young woman's body and to her potential baby is huge if she's not physically ready to be a mother yet.
But no....Don't wanna hit close to home, now do we?
One of the pearl clutching karens might have experienced that.
Pregnancy is only allowed to be shown as a beautiful, wonderful gift and a blessing from God!!! Duh.
hell, forget young women/teenagers, a pregnancy can fuck you up at any age if the kid comes out the wrong way or squishes one of your organs on their way out/you rest your weight the wrong way when the kid's coming out/something tears inside/the doctors overlook something/etc. One of my friends is a Grown Ass Woman who got possibly-permanent internal damage bc of a less than ideal leg position during birth. Baby pushed too close to the muscles on her hip or something, idk, end result being her sporty ass habits getting shot to hell bc of the pain. (And talking about risks, let's not forget the whole 'baby might absolutely fuck up your bladder whoops' bs that can go down. Nothing like baby-induced incontinency issues at 16/25/30, amirite? /s)
Even when the body is fully developed a pregnancy can mess you UP (and that's not even considering people with naturally small waists/etc), so the way this movie absolutely glosses over it is,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Something, jesus.
Which is why I never intend to have children. If I want a child (I doubt I ever will) I'll adopt or become a foster parent. Why contribute to overpopulation when there are so many children on this earth who don't have a stable, loving home? A lot of people think if you don't want to birth your own kids you're selfish, but my sentiments are the exact opposite.
Teen pregancy is horrible a baby needs a home to go into a loving home that can support it. You have to be able to buy the baby food and take care of it. Don't get pregnant until you at least have a job and your own place.
I think the girls are supposed to be around 16 so physically the pregnancy shouldn't be more risky than for an adult woman. But they definitely should have shown more of the regular annoying & uncomfortable parts of pregnancy they made it look like it was fun :/
What the executives should have said when they read the script: *A B O R T*
F E E T U S D E L E T U S.
Yeet the fetus
This is lifetime their audience hates that word
movies are created at conception and must be carried to term because abortion is murder
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How come if a girl gets pregnant young or outside marriage shes called a whore and treated like the worst thing in the world yet the guys are treated like nothing and some are treated like victims, it takes two to make a baby dont attack one but not the other
Because sexism is deeply rooted in the idea that women are only good if they're virgins who are traded as property.
Both are at fault for making retarded decisions, at least were a condom! It feels like I’m watching a horror movie
Stats?
Unless the men are r@ped
Well, if it was my son, I'd beat his ass for being irresponsible and tell him to get ready for fatherhood.
This is obviously a fetish movie
It obviously is
OH GOD-
Aren't most of these movies like that?
I mean... it’s lifetime are we surprised?
It's based on A true story en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gloucester_High_School_(Massachusetts)
Who green lights theese movies? WHO? and what do they turn down?
panic moms who buy these and show them to their kids/panic schools who show them to students.
They literately turn DOWN anything good...
Firefly got turned down...
@@butthz8850 too soon
Butt Hz no it didn’t. It came out ahead of its time at the worst era of television, on the worst channel.
First, it cost a lot.
Second, Fox was constantly green lighting and cancelling shows. Season 4, Episode 1 of Family Guy, opening skit.
Fox shuffled the line up around. The good shows were bounced to different time slots to try and get better ratings, but fans lost track of the shows, and they would lose viewers.
If they were to have made it now, with Netflix and Amazon Prime and Hulu, it would probably be awesome... if all the actors hadn’t moved on.
"I hope she has more friends who want to get knocked up" I'm pretty sure no teenage boy since the 1800s has said this
That part creeped me out so bad
That sounds like something a predator would say
It's pretty clear to him that girl wanting to get knocked up = girl wanting to put out, end of story. He's not thinking past the sale to the child support.
@@angrymokyuu1951 Not only that, but knocking a girl up also means don't have to use a condom. Some people care more about feeling good for 2 minutes than someone else's life
@@Dumbledoraexplora there exist thing called pulling out.
I also love how this movie just completely skips over the financial aspect of having a baby as well. It’s one of the most risky and expensive investments you can make as a human being
They didn’t want to show the negatives of pregnancy because they don’t actually want to scare women off from having babies. I know because people do this all the time. Women especially will only go on and on about the wonders of pregnancy to women who haven’t experienced it yet (and especially if they say they’re not interested in ever getting pregnant). One time my friend was telling me the horror story of how awful her son’s birth was and her mother immediately tried to stop her and hastily said, “Don’t tell her that! Now she’ll never want to get pregnant!” Joke’s on her though. I’m infertile.
I would think that they'd want to have it be realistic so it relates to their target audience of moms who don't want their teen daughters pregnant. Then again I also don't see a problem with women not wanting to be pregnant so what do I know 🤷♀️
Ariel Hunt I mean birth rates in first world nations are dropping below sustainable levels, probably because people are like “pregnancy sounds too gross and painful.”
gircakes or perhaps women have better things to do with their lives.
@@christinagarcia9353 And what about women who do think having and raising a child is something better to do with their lives.
@@christinagarcia9353 Imagine being ok with your nation dying out just so women can feel independent, even though they can still have a career and be a mom at the same time. I'm a girl who plans on having kids, and I know damn well that having a child wont magically enslave me to a life of nothing but motherhood.
Also I found it weird the boyfriend said, "figured out how to get a condom." He didn't know they were at the drug store....
Honestly I feel bad for Jessie. He has to deal with his crazy girlfriend who wants to get pregnant
True but he was also irresponsible and should be held accountable as well.
Yeah good thing he ditched that crazy girl
Amilah To be fair he doesn’t have to stay to take care of the baby. Technically neither does she she can do adoption. Yeah he should have been smart and settled for a bj but seeing how she continued to manipulate him thru the movie, she probably would have used the ye old turkey baster
Amilah it's both parties faults
@@tallybarnie5453 i honestly can't feel bad for Sara, baby traping is one of the WORST things you can do to someone, she had it coming.
“Just buy them animal crossing they’ll never wanna leave the house again”
Can confirm very accurate
Or buy the Monster Hunter that'll do the same thing and then just buy the next game every single year. Problem solved.
Her boyfriend looks like one of the guys from Smosh
He looks like a combination of both of them
It was 2008, dudes just looked Like That
I was thinking the exact same thing.
I was gonna say that lmao
MrLynksys1000 i mean, compared to other 2008 dudes
Hes at least decent
"We're all gonna get pregnant together."
Are you now?
It's a group effort.
Even better, it was (loosely) based on a true story! 😅😜
'Eyy, where were all the orgies when I was in highschool, huh?
Poor guy... Well he is kinda lucky
Apes together strong.
My mom got pregnant at 17 in her senior year of HS and this movie annoys me so much there aren’t even words to explain how stupid and unrealistic this movie is
Izzy B And yet it’s based on a true story
@@ihvojd Not sure if you forgot to put in quotation marks for "true story" cause there was barely a semblence of a pact. None of the 18 girls there conspired to get pregnant.
Not saying your mother is a bad parent for having you so young nor that this film is good in it's crappy portrayal but the stereotypes of teenage mothers exist for a reason, because they're usually shitty people who made bad life decisions. If you grew up in a poor area like I did you'd know first hand. Women forever living on benefits with terrible educations, just pathetic, wasteful lives.
It's just an insult to mothers and teenagers in general. Fucking degenerates is what they are.
@@MGX93dot Wow. I can't believe how ignorant you are.
The fact that this movie was made specifically to shame and stereotype pregnant teenagers/women and girls in general for the sake of pleasing Christian conservative audiences is so disturbing to me.
Isn’t this what Christian conservatives want?, they don’t ever shut up about families and procreation.
@@jamestheawsome100 Wait, true...I am all confused now xD
As a conservative around a lot of Christians, this is not it. In fact, pretty much anyone with functional eyeballs could see through this dumb sh*t. I mean they were clearly trying to appeal to the karens who are like crazy strict stereotypical Christians, but failed to realize the percent of people actually like that is extremely low lmao (hence stereotypical)
I think the worst fact is that this film was actually directed by a women who I presumed she would had a little bit of better knowledge of how to handle this issue.
Older women tend to have a very skewed and biased view of teen girls / young women as soon as they start get older.
Forget about teen pregnancy I never want to get pregnant, pregnancy just seems so stressful, expensive and time consuming I'm not gonna waste 9 months of my life.
And then spending around 20 years after that taking care of it
Yah adopt u can save a child's life and u also having a kid 😁😁
I want a child, but I want to be ready. No sane teen is gonna have a child whenever buying a house is a hastle!
@@rats443 The only problem is that adoption is a long, painful process much like pregnancy. The only difference is with adoption is that the child will have to spend a lot of time with you in order to even slightly trust you. I don’t speak from experience, but adoption is an even crueler for the child. “Hey, little billy, I know you like this place and all but it’s time for you to move away forever (hopefully) into a place with people you know jack sh*t about” still, adoption is giving a child a second chance but just be careful and remember that it is an extremely scary process for the child. And if you want to adopt a teen, you will need the patience of Gandhi.
@@willr.1495 At least the child will know that you actually wanted them and were prepared to take care of them.
i dont understand people who are so against the pill and other forms of birth control. they ARE aware its not used just for that purpose right???
When I was in middle school, I had a friend who'd never even dated yet that took birth control every day so she didn't have excruciating cramping during her period. She was 12, and just had a really compassionate and educated mother.
They don't care. Even if the pill was only used as a contraceptive 1% of the time, they would still decry it as being wrong and wresting control out of the hands of god. A lot of black and white thinking goes into fundamentalism like that. Something either abides by their interpretation of the bible or it doesn't. There is no gray area. No gradient. No sliding scale. The question they ask is, "Is it used as birth control?" Not, "How often is it used as birth control and what else can it do?" For the people who are against it, it's a yes/no question only.
Yeah 😅
I mean in this story it doesn’t matter because these girls were purposely getting pregnant, so handing them pills wouldn’t help, because they’d either not take them, flush them, trash them etc
I think it's mostly the conservative "abortion is murder" crowd (even though an abortion is completely different from nutting into a condom and/or taking a pill)
I'm a 15 year old boy, and the concept of kids my age having children of their own keeps me up at night. Once you have a child at an age where you aren't even old enough to drive a damn car, not only is your life ruined, but your child is. Teens (including me) are always irresponsible by default and could guarantee an awful life for a baby.
Conservatives do real Harm. I hope we can vote all against them.
Ngl, i risk being overly political here, but lets face it:
Ignoring Religion, we have 2 very specific Sources for LGBT-Hate and Science-Denial.
I mean, Pregnancy-Pact is by all means the harmless-thing. But not the only thing.
The Republicans and Fox-News literally endorse, favor and promote right-now
a whole bunch of openly-transphobic Hatepreachers. And if i say Openly i mean O.p.e.n.l.y.
@@iloveladybugs123 yeah, sometimes they would have their parents support and be somewhat responsible, but you still can't glorify that crap. Anyone that does is an incompetent person and nothing but subhuman
@@iloveladybugs123 people that glorify that concept make me appreciate not important from hatred more, and I would feel horrible for anyone that goes through pregnancy when they can't drink
I respect you for being aware of this kinda shit, gg buster.
@@Rainbowfox_ you go girl, and more people should be aware of that crap because it scares me more than dead space, and dead space makes me piss my pants
A little detail I noticed that was bothering me: Even if a high school girl was to get pregnant, she’s very likely not gonna be rolling her kid around in a stroller AT SCHOOL (and even if daycare was provided on school grounds, I still don’t think it would work like that). To make that seem so nonchalant is strange.
Exactly!
I have actually heard girls have this conversation in high-school. "If we have babies at the same time, they can all grow up together and be bffs" or "having this baby is going to be beautiful and me and my boyfriend will be together forever." At the time I was a teenage girl and lived with my single mother who made it my responsibility to care for my 3 year old brother. Id roll my eyes because I knew that those were fantasies and that the baby at home I was made to care for was, infact, hard work.
Tbh tho they're probably talking about the future and not in school.
No these were pregnant teenage girls
Excuse me WHAT?!
@@vainpiers Me and my friends used to talk about how we were going to be the “cool aunt” to the children of the only one of us who actually wants kids.
I remember my cousin telling me that her friend could possibly get pregnant (they were all barely freshmen, just got out of 8th grade) and that she was going to help take care of her baby and dress it up in cute clothes.
I was just dumbfounded. Idk why a 14-15 year old girl would ever *want* to be pregnant.
I would also say "why would her boyfriend let her," but he wasn't necessarily a guy who would care, and would probably run off when he realized she would keep the baby. No offense to him.
Hopefully the girl got some sense. My school is small, rumors would have went around eventually, so seeing as it didn't, and my cousin isn't saying anything about it, I imagine she never got pregnant (thankfully).
I don’t understand why all the “Christian Moms” in this movie are super against contraceptives. As a Christian myself, I believe that making it impossible for teens to access them doesn’t decrease the amount of teens having intercourse, it just increases the number of pregnant teens. In fact, studies have shown that giving teenagers access to contraceptives doesn’t increase the amount of teen sex at all.
It’s because a good chunk of the US perscrubes to an abstenance only sex education by law and religious organisations like the family institute use it as a way to guilt people into submission to there fucked up idea of family values. It is also a way to segregate women as inferior and sinful for expressing base desires based of there holy text treating woman as chattel where it was common for a father to sell his daughter into sex slavery with the only way to leave being if the master refuses to feed her or too breed her
So yeah this is far too common
Because something to note about American Christianity... it developed differently then its European counterpart. Sure, it was post reformation but the thing is European Christianity became more hands off not more material. American christainity became more spiritual and less caring about it as such it was far more morally uptight.
@@jspark8990 Eh, I think it has more to do with how christainity in America never got the material evolution that Europes got. In Europe major Christian political ppwer backs in with Christain Democratic parties that try to maintain a walfare state and express help for the general population while adapting to how they act and even to how society feels.
American Christianity never developed that as America was able for a good century and a half use its vast lands to give people land and an opportunity to get wealth. Because of this their wasn't as strong of a societal shift to realigne christainity in America beyond the morality and spirituality. As such it used its political power to fight in the way we are used too.
@@Xo-3130 i think its more america doesn't have as much of a dark age were christianity was theocratic and subjigated everyone due to the democratic process instead of a 'divinely choosen' monarch
@@jspark8990 Eh, the dark age wasn't due to Christianity... actually the chruch tried to maintain the research and information while attempting to keep it going. The instability of the fall if the western empire can be blamed for that.
As fir the divine right if kings. Its actually post-medieval and can best be seen as a Post-Reformation thing. Due in part as a reaction of monarchs to the growning centralization of their kingdoms and the power frictions both between them, the nobility and the growing educated and wealthy merchants/population.
The Thora Birch character sucks! She's thinks of herself as a mentor and protector of these girls, but she is a TERRIBLE person: she blurts out their secrets, ignores the principles of age of consent and privacy (can she even interview them as underaged teens?), she manipulated her ex-boyfriend, even barring him from knowing his child's existence or getting custody of it and tries to call out the other reporters on *their* lack of professionalism and morals? Oh, how the mighty have fallen...
Survey-Question (just go with it, please): Wouldnt you prefer it if we had Leaders who know the Internet but didnt embarass-themselves inside-it - or is that just me? I mean, we live in the Internet-Age and so much Data is available+understood.
It's not like Rain was understood by People 10000 Years ago:
For Example (and just an example!) Prisons.
I mean, we just know America's Prison-System is extremly primitiv. That aint a theory or a wild guess, cause other Nations just do it blatantly better. They know better and the USA could just copy them, but do Politicans even know that?? Do they ever watch 'Second Thought' lay out all the facts and Data about this or other stuff?
Ok, the whole Reporter lying to her Ex-Boyfriend about the fate of their kid was wrong, but she wasn’t ready to be a mother yet.
If my friend got pregnant, I'd rather support her then get pregnant too.
That would be way more healthy
Agreed
Do you mean “than” or “then”?
Than or then? Changes the meaning completely.
When my friend got pregnant by her deadbeat boyfriend and kicked out by her deadbeat dad my family took her in.
I hate the fact that this movie portrays teen girls as wanting nothing more in life to get married and be some boy's baby-making machine. It also portrays girls and living only for the attention of men and boys. I want to see more movies of teenage girls that are capable of being normal functioning people while also wanting to actually go somewhere with their lives and not live just to chase boys. This is coming from a 17 y/o girl with dreams to become a heart surgeon and never produce a child
I can relate a lot and I totally agree with you. Also, I want to study medicine too, but I haven't chosen the field yet. Though I think something with eye surgery and/or development of the medication etc. would be great.))
On one hand this portrayal is stupid. On the otherhand there are idiots who likely will do this because of course their will be.
You have a great dream ^ ^
You go get your doctorate in cardiovascular surgery!
god I hate babies and small children
also how about a teenage movie where:
The nerd does not "get the girl" and the girl instead is a lesbian because hell yeah
Also the 'girls had babies at younger ages back in that day' thing is a myth. most women would have children from about 18-25. It was only really nobility or wealthy that would have teenage pregnancies. If higher up the social ladder you were expected to get married sooner because marriage was more of a bargaining chip back in those days. So sometimes you had to get married at 16 to prevent a fucking war, keep a royal succession from dying, or just keeping your whole family from going dirt poor. and on top of that most wealthy and noble women did not raise their own kids. they were raised by wet nurses or nannies. Most noble or very wealthy women didn't actually see their children much until they were old enough to conduct themselves in court or the family business.
Now women who were lower down the social ladder had a bit more freedom to marry when ever. So some women could get married to their crush they had at 15 as long as both families agree it was a good idea or you could find someone to elope you two. On the other side you could wait until you were practically an old maid to settle down if you wanted. However, either way you could only have babies once married. Once married you had all kinds of help raising a kid since child rearing had a more 'it takes a village to raise a child' approach back in the day. I mean it was not uncommon for mothers to breast feed their friend's baby, so you had a pre-established network of people to help you. But if you were unwed with a baby you were shunned as hell. Pretty much left to die with your sin. you had the choice to keep your baby and beg for scraps or to give your baby up for adoption and start a new life and pray no one finds out you had a kid out of wedlock and wind up begging anyway. So there is yet another reason why that argument is horribly flawed.
And it was better that way, marriages out of "Love" were a Mistake
@@lukasd.4389 you have a right to your opinion, but I think people getting married because they care about eachother strongly enough that they feel the need to go through the bond of marriage is a wonderful thing. And for the lower classes, that was always an option. Did the marriages always go well? Well no, you could choose the wrong partner and have a horrible marriage. But there are plenty of marriages that make it work or even better!
Not to mention that arranged marriage among nobles and royals tended to be incestuous leading to the eventual down fall of many houses due to the genetic defects caused by such relationships (I.e. hapsburg and romanoff). Not to mention that whether or not you had a choice in your partner, there is always the chance it can go wrong. And I would say that arranged marriage more often goes wrong then right. I mean you are being forced to be with someone you never met, people just want you together because their father has money and your father has land. That isn't exactly going to help your compatibility with your partner. Wouldn't you rather be with someone you chose to interact with who had the same interests and a similar personality to you, rather then share a bed with a rando that has absolutely no interest in or even hates you? I mean, finding the right partner seems impossible sometimes, but I for one am glad I have the choice to be with my possible soul mate, rather then miserably long for them in silence as I am stuck with someone who is only with me for money or a title because our parents told us to.
more like from 17-30. people didnt have 2 kids in the past
@@sztallone415 yes! Most people had as many kids as their bodies or schedules would allow. So people would often have like 8-12 kids (though some if not most would die in infancy/childhood due to illness, genetic issues, accidents, etc.) or even more. And others would only have a few children due to either fertility issues caused by either parent, they just simply couldn't find time to make children, or even be bothered to do the deed with their spouse. In cases of last reason, most people where happy if they had at least one boy to continue the family name/inherit their father's things. Either way, the care of the children would be done the same depending on rank. Raised by the village for lower ranks or raised by wet nurses and teachers for higher ranks.
It wasn't until around the Victorian era where the family dynamics started to change and having larger families were not as ideal for the middle class and the lowest class. (It was too expensive or cramped to have that many kids, also finding time to make the kids issues too.)Though it was still viable for those that managed to hold on to traditional rural lives and wealthy/royals. (They had the time, space, and reason to have as many kids as possible.) Though it was still around this time that families started to have a few less children anyway. It wasn't until about the turn of the century when birth control was first introduced that people started to try and have smaller families (because believe it or not, being constantly pregnant is not fun for your health nor life in general and kids are expensive you know?). And due to the overall change of child rearing (aka parents are supposed do a majority of care for kids, not the teachers, neighbors, babysitters, etc.), better medical care, more forms of birth control becoming available, the rising cost of living, sex education becoming more readily available, etc. The average size of a family went from 6-10 in the 1800's to 2-5 nowadays. Which I have to say is a much better arrangement since everyone involved has a much higher quality of life as compared to our ancestors.
Kairi Hughes lookin at all these replies and I actually feel like I learned something 😂 dang you know your stuff!
Tricks boyfriend into impregnating her. He finds out the truth and is understandably angry. She acts like her deception was a good thing. He wants nothing to do with her. She wants to talk about their future together by standing there and just stare at him. Brilliant dialogue.🙄
You mean monologue
"Because even they can't be stupid enough to fall for this tripe."
Hooo boy, I wish. I remember this came out around the same time as that god-awful "Secret Life of an American Teenager" or whatever that show was called, and my mom ate all this shit up. She was constantly asking me really personal questions and inadvertantly fat-shaming me by asking if I was pregnant despite me not being allowed to leave the house or have friends over. Even when I affirmed I was asexual with literally zero interest, she still didn't understand why I wasn't putting myself at risk for teen pregnancy.
Oof. I had a controlling, narcissist mother as well. I hope you're in a better situation these days. 💕
I'm sorry your mother did what now???
my mom used to watch lifetime when I was growing up, but I think only slightly before this movie would have come out? but she also did the random "are you pregnant" pop quizzes despite me never being allowed to leave the house or have friends over. usually right after dinner. personally, I blame Christianity (and lifetime ofc)
Girl, same.
Pardon, but what the fück?
Honestly as teenage girl in a girls school I think that everyone I know would rather eat a sock full of mayonnaise and urine than be pregnant.
Same
That's oddly specific-
@@Lavellanrat shhhhh😳👌👊✊ tastee
I remember one of my friends wanted to have kids after she watched teen mom
id rather eat a CLEAN sock of NOT EXPIRED AND A GOOD BRAND of mayonnaise BUT NOT URINE than be pregnant. :)
I’m 23 and the thought of becoming pregnant is still horrific.
Same. I'm 23 too almost 24 and that would TERRIFY me. I'm not even in school or have a career or anything that I'd have to sacrifice like that. Still don't wanna get pregnant. Super scared of that.
Just turned 24. Still scared.
I'm a 22 guy and I would rather have a kid when I'm at least a lot older like early 30s.
It's extremely painful. Both physically and mentally
I would just adopt a kid
This movie was so weird as a kid, it’s even more disturbing as an adult