To be fair, Necrit was playing with the WoW streamers and also was in touch (kind of) with Asmongold who is the master of stalling and extending videos. He must learn his techniques. Asmon can also turn a 2min clip into a 2h video
The curiosity head tilt theory from Lamb can fit pretty well when you look at all her voice lines. Lamb is always inquisitive, curious, she wonders how and why things work and feel, while she's also so emotionless and serene. Seeing Trynd not only refuse but lash back out at "a peaceful death" could make her curious since "Why would one be angry at going in peace?"
I think Tryndamere going for a swing at Lamb is not only unusual as Necrit puts it but extremely rare and possibly only something someone infused with blood magic does. Mby this means that Tryndamere can attempt to defeat death. This is also reinforced because after that attack Tryndameres eyes glow red with the blood magic. In that case he is curious as to why he was able to take a swing at a peaceful death. When you fight, you fight the wolf. When I say defeat death I mean that mby Tryndamere can't die from a peaceful death (the lamb) for some time or mby that Tryndamere can defeat his own peaceful death and will only be able to die from combat i.e the wolf. If that is the case however I don't think Tryndamere would be able to realize this and only defends himself instead. This also draw interesting comparisons to Olaf and his undying rage.
It's wild to me that people aren't making the connection here. It's not that they're having some simple, humanistic response to a peaceful death or anything, it's that they're genuinely perplexed; they are trying to kill a human, of which they have aided countless times in finding their end, and they literally cannot kill him. It's not that he's resisting, lamb is used to just deferring the kill to wolf in that case, it's that they're incapable of killing him due to Aatrox's influence granting him semi-immortality. Neither the wolf nor the lamb can bring him to his end, which is perplexing to Kindred.
I like to think that Yasue accepted his dead here because his wind wall was on cooldown and his opponent had outsmart him, with no teammates to blame he repented for his sins by accepting his dead with honor.
This makes Aatrox's sealing part so much sadder. In his final moments of freedom, he can see death there, waiting, and despite his willingness to go, lamb never shoots at him. No wonder he's so angry all the time.
@@PengusKingdom The comment was right. If u saw how Kayle attacked Aatrox at the end of the first clip, Aatrox dropped his weapon and that means the darkin would go back to the weapon and will be imprisoned there. He just can't die. Even when seeing the lamb in those flames, it does not shoot him w/ the arrow of death or claim him bcs he is cursed to be immortal and just can't die. And that's why Aatrox wants to destroy the whole world in the hopes that it could possibly be his end.
The lyrics telling a story on top of the scenes are amazing. "Its in my blood its in my veins" - Morgana finally embracing who she really is and being unleashed. kayle taking up the second sword and ascending. "All my reasons cut like knives, keep replaying in my mind, all the times ive had to fight" Yasuo's regrets of all the mistakes he's made along the way and giving up on his purpose, which leads him to his end in this possible future scene. And of course "Im still here" is basically Tryndamere in a nutshell. Have not heard many people speak about the lyrics of this amazing song
Im still here can be tryndamere being stubborn or lamb saying u have a choice for peaceful death still so choose it dum dum, or lamb basically claiming she ain't gonna go away ,death is inevitable, all seems valid for me
I think that the whole song/cinematic Kindred is the main protagonist and the other champs are just side characters. "I'm still here" is a reference that Kindred will always be here and waiting.
I think that still here is both. All the c champions are fighting for their lives and even then they still here while that death never goes away, just like the champions death is still here too
Just a bit on the "Kindred isn't santa claus" etc. Iirc, it was stated that the Kindred are, in fact, omnipresent. Whenever there is life, there is also death, so they are there. Just not in the physical sense. They are even through the timelines, always there even when Ekko resets/rewinds things
I am still wondering how the fuck did MORDEKAISER not meet Kindred? Not even the Wolf? When he was older than Noxus and Demacia where the tale of Kindred is well knowned??? How DID HE MISS KINDRED? Or is it just because He Pre-dates all variations of Grim Reap because we know there are other Grim Reapers other than the Kindred depending on your Beliefs. Mordekaiser have a strong Concept of Death how come he did not meet any variations of said Grim Reaper?
@@Memplex-bs8iuno he has, but if you read into other stories around him you can see that he did meet her without him knowing who she is. She took his death but just because he knows a lot of death doesn’t mean he could 100% know about her
The utilization of Kindred in this is so fucking cool. there so much meaning behind literally everything. Even at the beginning with Aatrox, how LAMB watches despite Aatrox being a fighter, because Aatrox WANTS to die, and Lamb simply watches and waits to give him that death. They utilize what kindred is so flawlessly in this cinematic, and being a Kindred main, I couldnt be happier with it-!
Kindred has to be in the top 5 of Riot's best design concepts, in terms of lore especially. The implications of it in Runeterra and future shows is limitless, and its the main reason I play them. I may be biased bcs big Kindred main 900k or whatever, but when I watched Arcane and saw that they didn't hint at Kindred during important deaths or lots of deaths I was very disappointed, still a great show, just a missed opportunity to make a tiny bit of the community completely ecstatic. I'm over the moon that they're getting some love this season tho
In deed, and it is very unfortunate that Kindred's storywriter left Riot. They should have done everything to keep him and they should have especially taken his message to heart. Namely, that "Lore is important!"
@@deathmaster38 but the Kindred are omnipresent in different forms on runeterra, they may not believe in the Ionian Kindred or the Freljord Kindred. But, they have to believe in some concept of Death/Kindred. Besides, their masks were in the "shop" in Arcane and even so they could've hinted at the Kindred when deaths occur for the viewer not necessarily for Piltover and Zaun.
Well... Zaun and Piltover are both regions that haven't had their representations for kindred specified. It's possible they use Shurima's interpretation of Kindred (that being the gazelle and the hyena), but since there's no mention of a Piltover Kindred (and the fact that Piltover and Zaun are both regions lead by progress and innovation above all else), it's quite likely that the Kindred simply do not claim the souls from there (similar to Mordekaiser's case). After all, spirits in Runeterra need people to remember them to even exist, so it's pretty fair to assume that they can only act on people who know about their existence.
@@kn1ighttt Kindred is not the concept of death, they are just a spirits.. well they are the most well known spirit of death but still There are many different spirit of death other than kindred. If they were really THE concept of death then it wouldn't make sense for them to die by the eitherfiend( the big bird). A concept can not die and be removed it will destroy the league verse.
I agree that Lamb's head tilt was most likely a sign of curiosity, however for a different reason. I don't think lamb was curious how it was possible that Tryndamere was still alive and able to fight them, literal death, off. After all, Kindred at the very least have met Tryndamere before. Furthermore, they KNOW practically everyone on Runeterra ("We know your name." "We have always known it."), so I'm sure they are fully aware of HOW Tryndamere is able to survive. I believe that Lamb's curiosity stems more from the "Why?" question. Remember, Lamb is able to understand emotions, but not feel them. So I think she is simply wondering what kind of emotion, what feeling could possibly drive a mortal to even defy death. What is it, that Tryndamere values so much about living that he simply refuses to die? And I don't think Lamb even means this in a mocking or demeaning way, but that she is genuinely curious about it, wanting to understand it.
I love the idea that since Lamb and Wolf are more metaphysical beings than actually there, Wolf was in part acting through/posessing/imitating the actions of the soldiers attacking Tryn. Like if Ashe didn't show up and take down the last two, the next shot from Lamb or attack by Wolf would of had him spinning to "fight" the two coming from behind.
but kinda makes one wonder what kind of attack it was on trynd's shoulderpad that so perfectly lined up with wolf's, more specifically leaving those kind of marks
@@zenixvampirchik652Yeah i've been wondering the same thing no weapon the enemy had could leave that kind of mark on the shoulderpad, so I think its an oversight or the Kindred are more physical beings than previously thought
@@tuomasteivonen6798 the most prevalent theory I've heard for the shoulder pad damage was that Tryndamere WAS fighting Kindred physically as well as the soldiers, I.E. Wolf was taking the place of the real-world soldiers, but was also there himself. So Tryndamere only took a hit from Wolf, and wasn't touched by the soldiers.
@@comictitan4509 I think this makes a lot of sense. If you take how they operate, they most likely try to keep the death in reality by basically mimicking what is around the one dying. With that in mind it would seem that perhaps wolf got frustrated that Trynda wasnt dying and chose to force the death itself by physically interacting with Trynda instead of representing his enemies. If thats the case then it could also be the reason for Kindred tilting her head.
If you look close at Morgana and Kayle in the past section of the cinematic, right before they take out Aatrox, Morgana falls to her knees while Kayle rises up. It's some really heavy symbolism for both their futures.
It's nice seeing them get the spotlight because they've always had the most interesting lore out of the majority of the champs. If you haven't listen to Falconshields song about them.
Little fun fact, Trynda hit the wolf exactly four times (counting the hit that the wolf didn't parry), which is exactly the number of warriors he killed during the fight with Kindred. Also really cool detail. Cinematic timestamps: 3:11, 3:22, 3:25. 3:33
Yeah, it really hammers down how the fight with kindred is not happening in world but more of a spiritual "overlay". I think Necrit mentioned it in the last video as well, how the shoulderpad being damaged signals the connection between the kindred fight and what really happened. For this same reason it's not lamb shooting an arrow at yasuo, but just a random arrow from an archer that was lit up to represent the lambs arrow.
For the lamb head tilt, seeing as it only happened after Tryndamere broke Lamb's bow, my interpretation of it is she was confused as to why Tryndamere was trying to fight her. His fight was with Wolf and not her so was probably a bit surprised when she got dragged into the fight.
I thought ashes facial expressions were the most muted in the cinematic, but it’s all in her eyes. She’s focused as she drops the two and enters the scene then the eyes shift to concern as she makes eye contact with Tryndamere before shifting back to securing the area. I felt like it was a perfect representation since when you slow down at the end where Ashe shoots her bird into the sky you can see more enemies closing in on Ashe and Tryndamere
absolutely! the facial expressions on ashe and tryndamere in that final scene were fantastic. As you said you could see ashes emotions, but also tryndameres when his eyes go back to their original color as soon as he sees his wife, indicating that hes calmed down.
I might be seeing things, but I'm almost sure that, when Ashe approached Tryndamere, she had a split second urge to go down to him with lowering her bow, but she resisted, because, well, enemies. If it is true than it's an absolutely fantastic touch. If it's not, I will still see it there nonetheless =)
In my interpretation Kindred's head tilt is pretty obvious. It is because Trynda isfighting with them not only in a metaphorical sense but quite literally. As another commenter pointed out, he slashes the Wolf 4 times, and later we see 4 dead bodies left behind - so far this is in line with the fight being only in his mind. But then he attacks the Lamb, shattering her bow, which signifies that he is in fact fighting with Kindred. This makes the Lamb surprised and curious at the same time
I love it when Lamb is shooting at Trynda to check wether he wants to accept his fate or not and Trynda parries the arrow with his bare hand and then shouts at Lamb like "Leave me alone, you b*tch, i'm fighting the wolf!" 😂 The whole fight with Kindred was so good, i can't stop watching it.
I think, when Kindred appeared when they took down Aatrox, she wasn't watching him. But was there instead to claim the soul of his host that Kayle had killed.
Or rather the mortal part of his soul since this is probably the first time he was bound to his weapon as Atrox is one of the Darkins that escaped after the war
@@bastik.3011 when he became a Darkin, he was no longer mortal. Once the host body that he has taken over dies, he has to return back to the blade he is bound too. I just think it would go with the cinematic, by showing us 3 different kinds of deaths. The first being one where Aatrox's host's soul had no choice in his death. 2nd being The older yasuo choosing to go to his death. And the 3rd being Tryndamere choosing to not die and fight for his life, although most likely cause of the blood magic Aatrox forced into him.
@@reeses8607 yes i am aware but as far as i know the celestial spell triggers of the darkins mortal shell dies that's when they get bound to their weapon. Its their soul thats immortal not their body. Technically you can kill them by destroying the weapon but even that is complicated judging by what happened to nafari
@@mrdeafter says who? you? Like what are you talking about clearly they do in the Leage universe. If the Lore says that's how it works then you cant say its not
The implications of him fighting Kindred are kind of cool. When death comes to someone Lamb fires an arrow to see if they are willing before letting wolf take over if they aren't, the two don't fight in tandem as we know in the lore. Meaning if someone rejects the arrow they are subject to the wolf's fury, they aren't given a way to end it peacefully. Each time lamb fired the arrow we can assume it was because one of the soldiers was supposed to deal a fatal blow to Tryndamere, giving him the option of a peaceful death over a violent one, each time Tryndamere rejected it. Tryndamere should've died three times. This theory probably has holes, but I can say that Kindred usually doesn't fight in tandem, but the case might've been unique because it's Tryndamere.
5:10 This was intentional and planned, to the point I wouldn't be surprised if it was part of the initial storyboards. It's a beautiful motion edit. The flying arrow from one scene becomes the exploding hawkshot. This whole cinematic is filled with beautiful editing that shows a real grasp of the fundamentals.
How i imagined Kindred to be is that kindred is an omnipresent being whom only appears when someone is dying to claim their soul. Which means tryndamere was suppose to die when kindred appeared, but his immortality denies kindred from claiming him. (and thats how he fought off his enemies irl) So that little head tilt was probably confusion of "why cant i claim this man's soul"
I've watched it at least 4 times. It's actually so good man.. I genuinely can't believe they released such a banger with lore context thats not just "fight porn"
I think the Lamb's head tilt is more like "Can he see me??" It happens after Trynd attacked her, and usually people can't fight back against death, and most likely they can't even see Kindred. Trynd having his undying power is the exception. Not only he can not die, but he can actually see Kindred and attack her (while in reality he is fighting the warriors around him). I think that while in his rage and has red eyes, he can see the death realm
Oooh that would make sense within the context of the cinematic as well, since before the Trynd fight we only see Lamb’s arrow and hints of her silhouette. Maybe it’s usually only her arrows that can be “seen.” If Wolf mimics physical attacks with his strikes, him getting fended off wouldn’t be anything new for them, but someone actually going for Lamb directly would be surprising
@@TrashyDork We can also see Wolf's scratch marks on Trynd shoulder pad after the fight. I wonder if those warriors actually did them or if as OP said, Trynd is actually fighting Kindred.
I don't think it makes sense considering he's already fought them multiple times before the cinematic and chances are, Trynd tried to 'kill' Lamb in his previous life and death fights. I'd attribute Lamb's curiosity as "Why are you still fighting us?" everytime they meet Tryndamere
Knowing that lamb shows up for those ready to die, im curious what you think of lamb showing up as a silhouette in Kayles fire, instead of something like Wolf's jaws.
Aatrox and all Darkins have immortality, despite Aatrox’s simple wish to just… die. He can’t. Lamb can’t do her job, Wolf has no reason to be there. All Lamb can do is simply watch as Kayle seals Aatrox in his sword. That’s about as close of a death Aatrox will ever get.
Watching the cinematic, I noticed something interesting, though the importance of it is debatable. So far, no one (at least to my knowledge) has mentioned the mark that appears on Tryndamere's sword when the snowflake touches his blade. You've already pointed out that he's an iceborn and his blade is made of eternal ice. However, the symbolism here might be even more intriguing, especially now that we know it's Ashes Hawkshot, who was shot into the air moments before. The snowflake forms a symbol very similar to the Avarosa symbol. This could already be a subtle hint that Ashe is on his way, or that Tryndamere is regaining strength because Ashe is sending him a sign.
While that would be really cool and the ice shape indeed looks like some kind of a symbol (a 4-pointed star shape with 4 "tentacles")... it's nowhere near resembling the Avarosan symbol. The closest match I could find was the Demacian Illuminator Crest and even that one is a pretty big stretch (+ it makes no sense to appear there).
I agree with some of the symbolism. To me the snowflake represents Ashe approaching, and Tryndamere notices this, though possibly subconsciously. That is why he refuses to die on the ground.
Tryndamere saw the snowflake and tired but still going, he got up once again to fight and keep pushing, probably didn't thought of Ashe for it but just see the snowflake made him wake up once more, also, I don't believe Tryndamere is an ice born, neither his sword as well, that's just a Necrit mistake imo
That's why I love Kindred. The personifications of death, embodying the duality & inevitability of mortality. The complexity between choosing a peaceful ending, or a brutal one. If you told me they were going to be centerpiece behind league's new cinematic, I would've never believed it tbh. This is absolutely peak, makes up for last year 5x over, & sets a new standard going forward.
I notice that pattern on the kindred fight and leave a comment on the first day of the cinematic. Many people agreed with me but others didn't, as the times passes more people are seeing their fight as something more than just "fighting", and i love this because the kindred's are actually having more attention from the players. I read their lore in 2015 when they launched and was amazed by how good their concept was. I never forget them and when i saw the cinematic about 5 times, i notice that pattern (all the other details i missed because i only focused on the last fight lol)
Kindred is such a unique way to portray death, and it’s shown so perfectly in this cinematic. Riot really needs to just have a branch studio or something full time making media for this universe, it’s so interesting and entertaining!
Still here have a ton of references to my favorite parts of lore, and have breathtaking battle choreography - I rewatched it 15 times in one evening. And yeah, Aatrox’s Kayle and Morgana’s scene is one of the most complex air combats that I’ve ever seen in non-anime media.
After watching like 20+ times, I finally stopped to turn on the CC for the lyrics. In each scene there is so synergy with the lyrics and the action in the video. There was so much purpose in the writing of the song.
YESSS! Im so happy that finally, Kindred get to have screentime especially on a Season Cinematic. But not only that, they gave Kindred a loooot of justice and they executed their lore, relationship, fight scenes so magnificently and it also has in-depth meanings as well. This is a very good year and am also excited because Kindred will be released in Wild Rift, love it so much
My headcanon for Lamb's headtilt is a mixture of both Curiosity, Indifference and Confusion. She's analyzing Trynd because everytime they meet he refuses to take her easy option, even whilst Wolf is attacking him and she's offering peace, he still attacks her. It's kinda like her going: "Why are you like this?"
Idk I think explanation of Trynda's situation is very obvious. He did died and Kindred came to collect his soul, as they're omnipresent and they appear automatically for those who are dying. If he would've just fought why would they come? They're already too busy for coming and watching how a random dude fights. At 3 minutes of the video we can see that he's lying, completely alone, he doesn't move or breathe. When he's getting up we already can see Lamb and the shadows envelope the space around. Assuming that this is how their ritual begins, they're awakening their prey outside of time and space and making them chose. He chose Wolf and fought him. While doing that he activated Undying Rage and his body started to heal, which made Kindred leave because there was no point for them to be here and he returned in real time and space where we can see other soldier lying and running at him. It would perfectly explain how his immortality works. He actually dies but every time fights Kindred outside of time, activates his immortality and regeneration and returns. His LoR ability makes it even more realistic, as he level ups after dying.
I think that head tilt of the lamb is because of a different reason. When kindred appears before somenone, that persons time is up(I'm not deeply connected to the lore so if there is any one else escaped the kindred itself repeatedly except the darkins and the cats please let me know). Meaning either the lamb will claim their life or the wolf. Their life will be claimed no matter what. But here we see a person who fights both wolfs claws and lambs arrows. Of course anybody who refuses the lamb would be in the same situation but Tryndamere also fights back. Yes as the necrit stated in his eyes he is fightin with the wolf but actually he is fighting with his enemies. After Tryndamere spins towards the lamb, the lamb dodges. Her bow is broken but after the dodge it reappears. And the wolf also disappears during the spin and after it reappears but the lamb dodges. So I think Tryndamere starts to understand what is Kindred(Since I believe this is not their first duel, they may have another stand off during Aatrox's invasion or maybe many more times.). And the lamb starts to realise he is special. Not like special but special special. Unlike darkins Tryndamere is mortal, so he can die. That's why they are fighting in the first place and thats why kindred didn't do anything in Aatrox vs Kayle + Morgana scene. She knows she can not claim the darkins so it's just there watching not interfeering. But in Tryndamere's case, Kindred knows he is mortal and can claim his life, but she also can't because of the blood magic(undying rage). So I believe Tryndamere's life can not be claimed in combat (not in a regular one at least). But as she is Kindred she always appears before him everytime to uphold her duty to claim his life but always she can not. And we know lamb is rather merciful, since she claims lifes without pain. So in the end that head tilt is rather both sign of sympathy and nervousness from kindred. Sympathy because the things Tryndamere endures everytime he refuses both lamb and the wolf. And nervousness because yet again she couldn't claim his life. Kindred always claims mortals life but not this one.
Kindred in lore doesn't always only appear at the very moment of death. In kindreds very first short story she appears before a girl twice. Kindred appears at moments where you can and most likely will die but not always the moments before death
What I also find interesting is the fact that Kindred "dodged" Tryndameres attack, the one that almost hits the neck. I don't know if "lore wise" Kindred can be slain or beaten (still kind of new to the lore), but the fact that they dodge his attack is fascinating. If they cannot be beaten or slain, or even injured then they would not even bother to dodge, after all what would be the point. If they can be slain, it brings about a whole new aspect, since Tryndamere in theory fights death all the time with his ultimate, he might be one of the few beings ever to come close to defeating/slaying death. Neat stuff. An easy explanation of course is its a riot cinematic and they wanted a fight, not a "im gonna stand here and let you slash at me until your arms give out and we can finally claim you"
You know what would be crazy? Since they aren’t like physical beings, I can imagine Lamb not actually caring if she got sliced because she’d just reform, so what if she dodged instinctively BECAUSE trynd was about to cut their mask, so her body moved on its own as to not be split into 3, but she doesn’t actually realize that, so the head tilt is her being confused as to how she was forced to act
I'm not sure how I feel about the interpretation that old man Yasuo is for certain accepting death in his scene. Mostly because it feels like strange storytelling for the old ronin who thought he had walked away from the sword to take up a blade again to protect a village from bandits only to give up almost immediately with dozens of bandits still within bowshot of the village. I like to think the reason we see aspects of both the Wolf and Lamb looming over him is because he has yet to make his decision, after all, earlier in the scene he also closes his eyes before parrying an arrow at the last moment. And the labelling of the arrow that hits the screen as Hawkshot implies to me that that particular arrow, while symbolic in Yasuo's scene, is actually part of the scene it transitions us into.
I completely agree with you. I have asked this many times but nobody seems to know the answer. Why would Yasuo want to die and why would Kindred want to kill him?
Well, it seemed rushed to me too, but there is still a believeable explanation that he saw the Wolf and knew that his time has come regardless. And at that point he was just a tired old man albeit his powers. It's all killed by the fact that it's his vision and he could see a Pikachu on the Death star shooting superlasers at him and it would make almost as much sence, but at least it is an explanation and a pretty touching one.
@@itsgonnabeokay9341even before Necrit said it or anything, Yasuo is just tired of everything at this point in the lore, he decided to face his things but we don't know what happened in between until that old man Yasuo, still tho, I found it kinda understandable, he was done with fighting, even in his quotes in game says "Death is always by my side" and the wind as well, he just didn't wanted to keep pushing probably, he saved that woman that already flee and probably others before and that was it, as Yasuo puts it also in-game "Looks like the death IS the easy part"
@@itsgonnabeokay9341 I mean the creators of the cinematic said in an interview that they wanted to create a version of Yasuo that hasn't used the wind technique or his sword in a very very long time so...
Why would the lamb's head tilt convey curiousity if Tryndamere already met Kindred before in his fight with Aatrox. That does not make sense, since he most likely fought back then and lived that time as well. If anything it's the lamb being impressed with tryndamere almost landing a blow at it. Since the lamb usually never is violent and in close quarters with its pray.
Maybe Kindred just doesn't remember ? They probably killed Thousands of Thousands of people and there are probably even more who escaped them ( Being saved at the edge of Death ) Trynda might just be a random to them.
I didnt watch the first necrit video, but wouldnt the trynd and kindred fight just be what tryndamere sees when he is in blood rage? In the physical world, he is fending off the opposing army or other freljord warriors. But for trynd, he sees kindred, and kindred realizes that trynd sees them when lamb tilts her head to the side. Lamb may have realized in that encounter that, "wait, he doesnt see the embodiment of my offering for his death in the soldiers he fights... no.. does he see me?" *head tilt* And its in the way tryndamere fights, he isnt looking through them, he is looking at them. He is striking at them. Or maybe the tilt just represents a "hmmm.. wait... its not you thats meant to accept this peaceful death today tryndamere... no its the 2 men behind you". *head tilt* As Lamb switches to offering the 2 warriors behind trynd a peaceful death. Since the situation became clear when ashe intervened.
I still maintain that Tryndamere merely managed to stay alive for long enough for Ashe to save his hide rather than him actually "fighting off" or "defeating" Kindred. Nobody in the lore is strictly speaking "immortal", even if someone like Mordekaiser or Kindred themselves comes very close. Tryndamere is a mortal. Even if he kept fighting and raging forever, he would die from exhaustion and lack of nutrition sooner or later. Aatrox as well is only 'immortal' for as long as his magical prison isn't destroyed.
Aurelion Sol is pretty immortal in the sense that he can't die of old age and actually killing him would require a power we have yet to see in LoL universe.
@@itsgonnabeokay9341 He comes close. As does Mordekaiser, as well as Kindred themselves. But the lore doesn't explicitly states that they cannot be killed. It only implies that doing so would be extremely difficult, require unknown methods or require a highly unlikely set of circumstances.
@@itsgonnabeokay9341 That's the point I'm making. Nowhere in the lore does it state that any being is full-on immortal. We have ageless entities and powerful beings who have never been slain, and we have those who return to life through some mechanism like Aatrox and the inhabitants of the Shadow Isles. But I can't think of anything in the universe completely immune to Kindred. At most, they've put death on hold for now.
Asol is gonna easily outlive Runterra and therefore Kindred. If we are talking about immortality in terms of power scaling then it depends on which system you use. Asol definitely has type 1 which usually is eternal life as well as type 3: immortality via Regeneration, possibly type 4: Immortality via Resurrection, type 6: Parasitic immortality, type 8: Reliant immortality and type 9: Transcendental immortality. @@SleepyFen
My favorite detail is the difference in Tryndameres fighting style with and without his rage. Untill he actually pops off the ult (and his eyes go red), his fighting style looks focused and well composed. Even the arrow shattering shot looks, precise, calculated. When Undying Rage starts, he becomes volatile, wild... literally raging and blindly fending off the death. It is very clear by how he knocks the 2nd arrow, carelessly, almost random.
I can't stop remembering this cinematic and remembering the details damn riot really got us hooked. This is just starting and it's already this epic, I'm so excited on what's more to come on legue's lore and arcane 😭
To me it doesnt count if you use KDA's comback and not their og song Pop/Star. Once it beats THAT since its tecahincally the highest ranking viewed vid that Riot wver dropped. Since PopStars is sitting at Beyonce numbers with a whooping 583M views. THEN it will be something. Until then, its just pretty good.
There's a small scene where Lamb tilts her head, like she was thinking "why does this guy keeps holding on to life?". That was an amazing moment. EDIT: On second watch, Necrit did mention the tilt, and it made even more sense. This cinematic is one of the best pieces of media Riot has ever released.
I wanna throw my 5 cents. I feel the purpose of this video is “surrendering to ‘death’”. Aatrox dropped the sword (and knowing he only wants to die o destroy everything), Yasuo didn’t pull the wind wall. So two cases of just accepting what has come to them. But then Tryndamere strikes like an oddball. In my opinion, Kindred head tilt might be a tip off on how Tryndamere is feeling. Maybe Tryndamere wants to embrace it and is tired or afraid of this Undying Rage curse. So when Kindred is facing him, she is curious what is going on since she probably feels he wants to let go. Hence why she keeps double checking with her shots. She is just confused cause maybe, since it is happening in Tryndamere’s head, she can feel his true desire. Anyway, thanks for the video
I like that as it switches from Yasuo to Tryndamere, with the view of the sky, you can see a circle detonating into snowflakes, which is the effect when Ashe's E reaches its target. It subtly indicates that Ashe knows where Tryndamere is and doesn't just stumble on the fight happening.
No one ever said anything about Yasuo's strange behavior. He did not kill his enemies or even wound them. He just scattered them in different directions. It actually looked like he was SAVING them. When the first arrow flew at him, he had already closed his eyes, but for some reason he decided to “fight”, without even touching anyone. Can you feel it?
12:00 Also, actually the moment when Tryndamere swings on Kindred and destroys her bow and amlmost scratches her. She may look surprised not because she was surprised that Tryndamere doesn't die, as we discussed. As she represents the peaceful death, she may be surprised that Tryndamere doesn't want to accept the peaceful death and wants to face a difficult one. Because it would not make sense for Tryndamere to attack Kindred in that moment as he was fighting the wolf and Kindred was standing and doing nothing. Tryndamere intentionally swings through the wolf and trying to reach Kindred, wolf was not even his target in that moment, so this way he is kind of rejecting a peaceful death. 2) One more of the possible explanations also why Kindred is surprised in that moment is that. Logically, Kindred attacks only when person is ready to accept peaceful death. Wolf attacks when person resists to peaceful death. In this case, they are attacking both at the same time. This can represent that Tryndamere as a human would like to accept peaceful death, but because of the Undying Rage, he cannot do it and needs to fight. That is why she surprised, cause one moment his eyes are blue and he kind of looks like a human who would accept peaceful death, couple seconds later he is a red eye monster which swings like crazy trying to attack her.
My guess would be surprise because its probably the first time she almost got touched... Just as u said he ignored wolf and went for the lamb, not only would that be unexpected but also new to them... As far as I remember in all the lore I've read of Kindred, they're always metaphorical and something else is what kills the victim in the real world, the victim only sees Kindred claiming them... that forest where those goons were killed by the fire, wolf's death, the old women with the heartattack, lamb's arrow... but someone attacking death itself, now thats new, and only possible as Trynd is alr supposed to be dead but Undying Rage keeps him alive
Wait really?? That's what took people so long to realise? I thought the "peceful death from The Lamb vs resisting your destiny against The Wolf" stuff would be like the first thing to pop up in people's mind when they watch this cinematic, even if they barely keep up with the lore. A bit disappointed in you, community. And even more so in you Necrit. All in good manners of course. Not gonna blame any of you. Especially if so many people missed it, then maybe it's not as obvious as I thought, idk.
Whats even more incredible about all of this is that the lyrics of the song perfecting alines and subtly mentions everyting that you are saying in a way, both in morg/kayle part, trynda part and even yasuo part, this is trully a masterpiece
I don't know if it's been brought up yet, but I have a new theory. In your past video you claimed that the fight and interactions with Kindred are only in the mind of the person engaging with them. That would be a rather obvious answer since random Kindred arrow marks on dead people or Wolf bite/claw marks would be odd if they showed up on every person who ever died or every Noxian. However, there is a different detail with Tryndamere. I believe that if the engagement between Kindred and the one who is about to die does not "go well", that the result is different. In the cinematic, Wolf bites/claws Tryndamere's shoulder-guard, leaving a very obvious mark. There is no weapon among the warriors he's fighting that could inflict that, nor the body of a wolf/dog can be seen nearby when the camera pans out. In fact, the appearance of that mark is so odd that even Ashe looks it rather puzzled and even glances around their surroundings, as if looking for the source of it, but cannot find it. I feel that when someone's abilities or "destiny" directly conflict with Kindred's purpose as "Death", that some of their interaction begins to bleed into the physical world. It's these incredibly rare and minor details that would actually give some amount of life to their legend and lore rather than being an entity that is never seen, never heard, and no proof of them exists.
I think Tryndamere going for a swing at Lamb is not only unusual as Necrit puts it but extremely rare and possibly only something someone infused with blood magic does. Mby this means that Tryndamere can attempt to defeat death. This is also reinforced because after that attack Tryndameres eyes glow red with the blood magic. In that case he is curious as to why he was able to take a swing at a peaceful death. When you fight, you fight the wolf. When I say defeat death I mean that mby Tryndamere can't die from a peaceful death (the lamb) for some time or mby that Tryndamere can defeat his own peaceful death and will only be able to die from combat i.e the wolf. If that is the case however I don't think Tryndamere would be able to realize this and only defends himself instead. This also draw interesting comparisons to Olaf and his undying rage.
As I see it Yasuo did not give up nor did he accept; They made the scene, to close his eyes the same way, as he casted the wind wall the first time on purpose, so it would be up for interpretation. (That's why we did not se him die.) Both Lamb and Wolf are represented here because of the possibilities for both outcome. And rejection would fit with the message more "Still here" I think. Or at least the rejection of the vision. Hence why we don't see him decide.
Okay but Yasuo just used his empowered Q on the bossman, if the cinematics are showing off abilities why couldn't he just ULT the guy and dodge the arrows lol
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There is foreshadowing that Kindred (the lamb) will be the one to finally get Tryndamere in the end. As the cinematic ends with Tryndamere once more choosing to resist, overpowering the wolf and not giving up, yet Kindred doesn't leave, the lamb only transforms, as Ashe, Tryndamere's love and wife literally steps into the spot of Kindred. This could be a cinematic way to foreshadow how Ashe will be his lamb, and he will choose to die one day, at peace, maybe with her or for her. When all battles are won and there is no more need to fight with undying rage!
One point I haven't seen anyone mention so far is that the bandits that started attacking Yasuo in the beginning recognized him immediately as soon as they saw his scar. Before Yasuo tilts his head up and shows the scar, the bandits are seen joking around and doesn't take this old man that just walked out seriously. But as soon as Yasuo tilts his head and shows the scar (and no more!) the bandits immediately tense up and attack. There is no reason for them to go into action that fast and that seriously unless they saw something right then, and the only thing that was revealed from the head tilt was Yasuo's scar. Remember, they didn't walk up to Yasuo like he was an old man, threatening him or "toying" with him as they seemingly joke about at first. They rush him without coordinating and try to kill him before Yasuo gets to attack them back. This fails of course, because he is who they fear he is. And if this animation is Yasuo returning to his ways after leaving it behind for a long time, then the bandits have no way of knowing who he is based on previous experience - they can't have met him before. They are too young to have seen or faced him before, as Yasuo realistically shouldn't have been fighting for many years. What's cool with this is that means that stories of Yasuo must be passed down in the populace, specifically mentioning his scar as an identifying feature and that he is a force to be reckoned with.
I also think that kindred was puzzled as trynd actually lashing out at her is not a normal thing. It implies that somehow tynd can actually perceive her as a real entity and that's strange. Same with wolf actually having to jump in the way of tynd, people would normally fight wolf not attack lamb.
Am I the only one noticing that each time Trynda attacks, it counts up to 4 hits/kills on the guys in the background and Ashe come in and kill 2, which is a result of the 6 enemies on the ground at the end. Trynda hit 6-7 times overall, but some of them were parries, 4 of them were attacks. kinda fun detail that the wolf and kindred he attacked, was a killing blow to the raiders.
There was a theory that trynda never really wanted to oppose death, which is why lamb shot at him, but then his blood magic worked up and refused death and so wolf came at him, then he was back to consciouscness and accepted death so lamb shot at him, then his blodo magic...
You are kind of contradicting yourself! My interpretation of the tilt is also that Kindred was curious because I think this is their first meeting! But you said earlier that they have met before so that would mean that they are familiar with Tryndamere therefore in this case the tilt would be about something else.
I think the cinematic's Morgana and Kayle part is from Canticle Of The Winged Sisters story - VII (The Battle of Zeffira) and VIII (What Cannot be Undone) because as of my understanding there is a time jump after VIII, so they don't split instantly after that. And they line up quite well (Before that it only talks about them existing, so this can be an old story, just as the cinematic and after that talks about them sort of working together then splitting up)
14:21 u would not believe me, but i have finished watching it twice xD First time when it came out, and second time recently, because i completely forgot what it was about 😂
Necrit isn’t that hawkshot though as you can clearly see at the end of the scene with yasuo it has wings. It's probably just a clever effect for a transition
Another interesting take is that towards the end of Tryndamere's fight with Kindred, prior to Ashe's volley, you can see that he was eventually going to submit to Lamb as his reaper. It just so happened that Death (Lamb) was a split second away from winning. You can see this when Ashe's volleys were shot (which couldve been Lamb's), and Tryndamere did not flinch to defend himself (an act of accepting his death). Crazy stuff Rito.
Maybe change the tier list since the trynd stronger than kindred and that will make also the darkin stronger than kind 😑 and all those stronger than aurelion sol
I also think that Lamb put down her bow, while casting the last arrow, is on purpose aswell. Tryn is still fighting those soliders while seeing kindred, and at the moment ashe casts her volley, the lamb cancles her shot, cause she knows that ashes arrows will kill the last source through which Tryn could actually die in that moment.
One thing to note, in the Spirit Blossom video when Yone and Yasuo met again defeating the demon. Yasuo told Yone to have his revenge for killing him. Yone instead replied, "You may deserve death. But not by my hand." This also might be a hint that Yone knows that Kindred is the one that is going to claim his death. Just an interesting hunch.
@@keku52 Either way we will never know Riot's real intention on how Yasuo's death is portrayed. Again its just a hunch from me. It will be awesome if it is. Linking this cinematic with the Spirit Blossom ones.
Riot: Lets make a really cool scene where yasuo dies to a random arrow from ashe to splice the scenes together! Necrit: You see! The arrow represents--- (13 minutes later) Riot: Uh.. Ye, YES! Yes ahaha... That's what we did! ehehehe ^^' Right?! Also Riot: Uhh-I'unno..
How did a 4 minute video turn in to a 2 part 20+ minutes mini series?
Answer: Necrit
Marvecc made 54 minute part 1 about this , but he speaks Polish, so his range is probably smaller
let him cook
To be fair, Necrit was playing with the WoW streamers and also was in touch (kind of) with Asmongold who is the master of stalling and extending videos. He must learn his techniques. Asmon can also turn a 2min clip into a 2h video
@@BouncingHope don't worry I won't stop him. I want more actually
just wait until TBSkyen inevitably makes his movie length animation analysis on it
The curiosity head tilt theory from Lamb can fit pretty well when you look at all her voice lines. Lamb is always inquisitive, curious, she wonders how and why things work and feel, while she's also so emotionless and serene. Seeing Trynd not only refuse but lash back out at "a peaceful death" could make her curious since "Why would one be angry at going in peace?"
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Woahhh... Yeahhhh
It's kinda make sense if we look at the voice line
I think Tryndamere going for a swing at Lamb is not only unusual as Necrit puts it but extremely rare and possibly only something someone infused with blood magic does. Mby this means that Tryndamere can attempt to defeat death. This is also reinforced because after that attack Tryndameres eyes glow red with the blood magic.
In that case he is curious as to why he was able to take a swing at a peaceful death. When you fight, you fight the wolf.
When I say defeat death I mean that mby Tryndamere can't die from a peaceful death (the lamb) for some time or mby that Tryndamere can defeat his own peaceful death and will only be able to die from combat i.e the wolf. If that is the case however I don't think Tryndamere would be able to realize this and only defends himself instead. This also draw interesting comparisons to Olaf and his undying rage.
It's wild to me that people aren't making the connection here. It's not that they're having some simple, humanistic response to a peaceful death or anything, it's that they're genuinely perplexed; they are trying to kill a human, of which they have aided countless times in finding their end, and they literally cannot kill him. It's not that he's resisting, lamb is used to just deferring the kill to wolf in that case, it's that they're incapable of killing him due to Aatrox's influence granting him semi-immortality. Neither the wolf nor the lamb can bring him to his end, which is perplexing to Kindred.
Well you certainly worded it better then I ever could, agree 100%
I like to think that Yasue accepted his dead here because his wind wall was on cooldown and his opponent had outsmart him, with no teammates to blame he repented for his sins by accepting his dead with honor.
he knows this is just another step in the unstoppable technique of 0/10 power spike
maybe he thought it was a turret shot cause it glowed too bright
Pretty sure he still used his M7 when the arrow hit him tho
he was typing in chat
He ulted the guy he tornado and dodged every arrow
This makes Aatrox's sealing part so much sadder. In his final moments of freedom, he can see death there, waiting, and despite his willingness to go, lamb never shoots at him.
No wonder he's so angry all the time.
If tryndamere is too angry to die
aatrox is angry he can't die.
Aatrox says to tryndamere "Rage? You are just flesh tryndamere! Ready for harvesting!
I think you got your champs mixed up
@@PengusKingdom ???
@@PengusKingdom The comment was right. If u saw how Kayle attacked Aatrox at the end of the first clip, Aatrox dropped his weapon and that means the darkin would go back to the weapon and will be imprisoned there. He just can't die. Even when seeing the lamb in those flames, it does not shoot him w/ the arrow of death or claim him bcs he is cursed to be immortal and just can't die. And that's why Aatrox wants to destroy the whole world in the hopes that it could possibly be his end.
The lyrics telling a story on top of the scenes are amazing.
"Its in my blood its in my veins" - Morgana finally embracing who she really is and being unleashed. kayle taking up the second sword and ascending.
"All my reasons cut like knives, keep replaying in my mind, all the times ive had to fight" Yasuo's regrets of all the mistakes he's made along the way and giving up on his purpose, which leads him to his end in this possible future scene.
And of course "Im still here" is basically Tryndamere in a nutshell.
Have not heard many people speak about the lyrics of this amazing song
Im still here can be tryndamere being stubborn or lamb saying u have a choice for peaceful death still so choose it dum dum, or lamb basically claiming she ain't gonna go away ,death is inevitable, all seems valid for me
I think that the whole song/cinematic Kindred is the main protagonist and the other champs are just side characters. "I'm still here" is a reference that Kindred will always be here and waiting.
@@eng.miroslavmanahilov1944 the geniusness of this video man. The lyrics can mean either way depending on how you interpret it. Man I love it
I think that still here is both. All the c champions are fighting for their lives and even then they still here while that death never goes away, just like the champions death is still here too
Just a bit on the "Kindred isn't santa claus" etc. Iirc, it was stated that the Kindred are, in fact, omnipresent. Whenever there is life, there is also death, so they are there. Just not in the physical sense. They are even through the timelines, always there even when Ekko resets/rewinds things
"We know your name, child. Woven across countless almost-lives."
I am still wondering how the fuck did MORDEKAISER not meet Kindred? Not even the Wolf? When he was older than Noxus and Demacia where the tale of Kindred is well knowned??? How DID HE MISS KINDRED? Or is it just because He Pre-dates all variations of Grim Reap because we know there are other Grim Reapers other than the Kindred depending on your Beliefs.
Mordekaiser have a strong Concept of Death how come he did not meet any variations of said Grim Reaper?
Morde fucking died twice and still no encounter to any grim reaper?
@@Memplex-bs8iuno he has, but if you read into other stories around him you can see that he did meet her without him knowing who she is. She took his death but just because he knows a lot of death doesn’t mean he could 100% know about her
Maybe Mord met the Gray Man, before he split into Kindred. And maybe when he formed his realm he can shut them out somehow
The utilization of Kindred in this is so fucking cool. there so much meaning behind literally everything. Even at the beginning with Aatrox, how LAMB watches despite Aatrox being a fighter, because Aatrox WANTS to die, and Lamb simply watches and waits to give him that death. They utilize what kindred is so flawlessly in this cinematic, and being a Kindred main, I couldnt be happier with it-!
NGL this cinematic kinda makes me wanna play Kindred but my mechanics are horrible so I will just stick to tanking
Thats the sad part about Aatrox tho, he cant die so Kindred can only watch.
Furry. I don't blame you though. Lamb is just packing too much gyatt
@@ietdkvd Lamb is just so...
@@ietdkvd Sir- I involved nothing lewd about what i said- lol
Kindred has to be in the top 5 of Riot's best design concepts, in terms of lore especially. The implications of it in Runeterra and future shows is limitless, and its the main reason I play them. I may be biased bcs big Kindred main 900k or whatever, but when I watched Arcane and saw that they didn't hint at Kindred during important deaths or lots of deaths I was very disappointed, still a great show, just a missed opportunity to make a tiny bit of the community completely ecstatic. I'm over the moon that they're getting some love this season tho
In deed, and it is very unfortunate that Kindred's storywriter left Riot. They should have done everything to keep him and they should have especially taken his message to heart. Namely, that "Lore is important!"
People who dont belive in kindred wont see kindred so zaun and piktover may not believe in kindred
@@deathmaster38 but the Kindred are omnipresent in different forms on runeterra, they may not believe in the Ionian Kindred or the Freljord Kindred. But, they have to believe in some concept of Death/Kindred. Besides, their masks were in the "shop" in Arcane and even so they could've hinted at the Kindred when deaths occur for the viewer not necessarily for Piltover and Zaun.
Well... Zaun and Piltover are both regions that haven't had their representations for kindred specified. It's possible they use Shurima's interpretation of Kindred (that being the gazelle and the hyena), but since there's no mention of a Piltover Kindred (and the fact that Piltover and Zaun are both regions lead by progress and innovation above all else), it's quite likely that the Kindred simply do not claim the souls from there (similar to Mordekaiser's case).
After all, spirits in Runeterra need people to remember them to even exist, so it's pretty fair to assume that they can only act on people who know about their existence.
@@kn1ighttt Kindred is not the concept of death, they are just a spirits.. well they are the most well known spirit of death but still
There are many different spirit of death other than kindred.
If they were really THE concept of death then it wouldn't make sense for them to die by the eitherfiend( the big bird). A concept can not die and be removed it will destroy the league verse.
I agree that Lamb's head tilt was most likely a sign of curiosity, however for a different reason.
I don't think lamb was curious how it was possible that Tryndamere was still alive and able to fight them, literal death, off. After all, Kindred at the very least have met Tryndamere before. Furthermore, they KNOW practically everyone on Runeterra ("We know your name." "We have always known it."), so I'm sure they are fully aware of HOW Tryndamere is able to survive.
I believe that Lamb's curiosity stems more from the "Why?" question. Remember, Lamb is able to understand emotions, but not feel them. So I think she is simply wondering what kind of emotion, what feeling could possibly drive a mortal to even defy death. What is it, that Tryndamere values so much about living that he simply refuses to die? And I don't think Lamb even means this in a mocking or demeaning way, but that she is genuinely curious about it, wanting to understand it.
I love the idea that since Lamb and Wolf are more metaphysical beings than actually there, Wolf was in part acting through/posessing/imitating the actions of the soldiers attacking Tryn.
Like if Ashe didn't show up and take down the last two, the next shot from Lamb or attack by Wolf would of had him spinning to "fight" the two coming from behind.
but kinda makes one wonder what kind of attack it was on trynd's shoulderpad that so perfectly lined up with wolf's, more specifically leaving those kind of marks
@@zenixvampirchik652Yeah i've been wondering the same thing no weapon the enemy had could leave that kind of mark on the shoulderpad, so I think its an oversight or the Kindred are more physical beings than previously thought
@@tuomasteivonen6798 I'm glad someone finally caught this...also Ashe notices the damage on his shoulder pad and hawk shots again...
@@tuomasteivonen6798 the most prevalent theory I've heard for the shoulder pad damage was that Tryndamere WAS fighting Kindred physically as well as the soldiers, I.E. Wolf was taking the place of the real-world soldiers, but was also there himself. So Tryndamere only took a hit from Wolf, and wasn't touched by the soldiers.
@@comictitan4509 I think this makes a lot of sense. If you take how they operate, they most likely try to keep the death in reality by basically mimicking what is around the one dying. With that in mind it would seem that perhaps wolf got frustrated that Trynda wasnt dying and chose to force the death itself by physically interacting with Trynda instead of representing his enemies. If thats the case then it could also be the reason for Kindred tilting her head.
If you look close at Morgana and Kayle in the past section of the cinematic, right before they take out Aatrox, Morgana falls to her knees while Kayle rises up. It's some really heavy symbolism for both their futures.
I love that this cinematic has so much popularity and depth! And Kindred being the centerpiece of it is still the cherry on top!
It's nice seeing them get the spotlight because they've always had the most interesting lore out of the majority of the champs. If you haven't listen to Falconshields song about them.
@@shinygrowlithe3882 There’s a fan song?!
@@scrollkeeper5272falconshield probably my fav, if someone had other recommendations, I'm open to listen
Little fun fact, Trynda hit the wolf exactly four times (counting the hit that the wolf didn't parry), which is exactly the number of warriors he killed during the fight with Kindred. Also really cool detail.
Cinematic timestamps: 3:11, 3:22, 3:25. 3:33
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Nicely noticed. That fight just keeps getting better.
Is Tryndamere actually Jhin?
Secretly a Jhin lore...
Yeah, it really hammers down how the fight with kindred is not happening in world but more of a spiritual "overlay". I think Necrit mentioned it in the last video as well, how the shoulderpad being damaged signals the connection between the kindred fight and what really happened.
For this same reason it's not lamb shooting an arrow at yasuo, but just a random arrow from an archer that was lit up to represent the lambs arrow.
For the lamb head tilt, seeing as it only happened after Tryndamere broke Lamb's bow, my interpretation of it is she was confused as to why Tryndamere was trying to fight her. His fight was with Wolf and not her so was probably a bit surprised when she got dragged into the fight.
I love this interpretation!
Same
I think Lamb there was confused as to why he even would go for her
It's as if he denies both deaths and really refuses to go
Yeah,why would kindred be surpirsed over trynd not dying if its not their first time fighting like necrit said? Kindred already knows
Except Lamb shot at Trynd already, and he parried the arrow with his sword.
@@SerialNightmaredifference between partying the arrow and straight up breaking her bow
I thought ashes facial expressions were the most muted in the cinematic, but it’s all in her eyes. She’s focused as she drops the two and enters the scene then the eyes shift to concern as she makes eye contact with Tryndamere before shifting back to securing the area.
I felt like it was a perfect representation since when you slow down at the end where Ashe shoots her bird into the sky you can see more enemies closing in on Ashe and Tryndamere
absolutely! the facial expressions on ashe and tryndamere in that final scene were fantastic. As you said you could see ashes emotions, but also tryndameres when his eyes go back to their original color as soon as he sees his wife, indicating that hes calmed down.
I might be seeing things, but I'm almost sure that, when Ashe approached Tryndamere, she had a split second urge to go down to him with lowering her bow, but she resisted, because, well, enemies. If it is true than it's an absolutely fantastic touch. If it's not, I will still see it there nonetheless =)
And Tryndamere makes a really powerful expression of exhaustion at that moment; you can feel viscerally just how tiring his struggle is.
In my interpretation Kindred's head tilt is pretty obvious. It is because Trynda isfighting with them not only in a metaphorical sense but quite literally. As another commenter pointed out, he slashes the Wolf 4 times, and later we see 4 dead bodies left behind - so far this is in line with the fight being only in his mind. But then he attacks the Lamb, shattering her bow, which signifies that he is in fact fighting with Kindred. This makes the Lamb surprised and curious at the same time
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I love it when Lamb is shooting at Trynda to check wether he wants to accept his fate or not and Trynda parries the arrow with his bare hand and then shouts at Lamb like "Leave me alone, you b*tch, i'm fighting the wolf!" 😂 The whole fight with Kindred was so good, i can't stop watching it.
Literally just screaming in the face of Death Herself. Chills every time.
I think, when Kindred appeared when they took down Aatrox, she wasn't watching him. But was there instead to claim the soul of his host that Kayle had killed.
Or rather the mortal part of his soul since this is probably the first time he was bound to his weapon as Atrox is one of the Darkins that escaped after the war
@@bastik.3011 when he became a Darkin, he was no longer mortal. Once the host body that he has taken over dies, he has to return back to the blade he is bound too.
I just think it would go with the cinematic, by showing us 3 different kinds of deaths. The first being one where Aatrox's host's soul had no choice in his death. 2nd being The older yasuo choosing to go to his death. And the 3rd being Tryndamere choosing to not die and fight for his life, although most likely cause of the blood magic Aatrox forced into him.
@@reeses8607 yes i am aware but as far as i know the celestial spell triggers of the darkins mortal shell dies that's when they get bound to their weapon. Its their soul thats immortal not their body. Technically you can kill them by destroying the weapon but even that is complicated judging by what happened to nafari
@@bastik.3011souls does not work like that lol
@@mrdeafter says who? you? Like what are you talking about clearly they do in the Leage universe. If the Lore says that's how it works then you cant say its not
The implications of him fighting Kindred are kind of cool. When death comes to someone Lamb fires an arrow to see if they are willing before letting wolf take over if they aren't, the two don't fight in tandem as we know in the lore. Meaning if someone rejects the arrow they are subject to the wolf's fury, they aren't given a way to end it peacefully. Each time lamb fired the arrow we can assume it was because one of the soldiers was supposed to deal a fatal blow to Tryndamere, giving him the option of a peaceful death over a violent one, each time Tryndamere rejected it. Tryndamere should've died three times. This theory probably has holes, but I can say that Kindred usually doesn't fight in tandem, but the case might've been unique because it's Tryndamere.
5:10 This was intentional and planned, to the point I wouldn't be surprised if it was part of the initial storyboards. It's a beautiful motion edit. The flying arrow from one scene becomes the exploding hawkshot. This whole cinematic is filled with beautiful editing that shows a real grasp of the fundamentals.
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How i imagined Kindred to be is that kindred is an omnipresent being whom only appears when someone is dying to claim their soul. Which means tryndamere was suppose to die when kindred appeared, but his immortality denies kindred from claiming him. (and thats how he fought off his enemies irl) So that little head tilt was probably confusion of "why cant i claim this man's soul"
but why would she be confusex if it isnt the first time they fought
I've watched it at least 4 times. It's actually so good man.. I genuinely can't believe they released such a banger with lore context thats not just "fight porn"
I think the Lamb's head tilt is more like "Can he see me??"
It happens after Trynd attacked her, and usually people can't fight back against death, and most likely they can't even see Kindred.
Trynd having his undying power is the exception.
Not only he can not die, but he can actually see Kindred and attack her (while in reality he is fighting the warriors around him).
I think that while in his rage and has red eyes, he can see the death realm
Oooh that would make sense within the context of the cinematic as well, since before the Trynd fight we only see Lamb’s arrow and hints of her silhouette. Maybe it’s usually only her arrows that can be “seen.” If Wolf mimics physical attacks with his strikes, him getting fended off wouldn’t be anything new for them, but someone actually going for Lamb directly would be surprising
@@TrashyDork Exactly!
Lamb usually doesn't need to dodge attacks, hence why the blade came so close to her neck before she moved
@@TrashyDork We can also see Wolf's scratch marks on Trynd shoulder pad after the fight. I wonder if those warriors actually did them or if as OP said, Trynd is actually fighting Kindred.
THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENCE.
I don't think it makes sense considering he's already fought them multiple times before the cinematic and chances are, Trynd tried to 'kill' Lamb in his previous life and death fights. I'd attribute Lamb's curiosity as "Why are you still fighting us?" everytime they meet Tryndamere
Knowing that lamb shows up for those ready to die, im curious what you think of lamb showing up as a silhouette in Kayles fire, instead of something like Wolf's jaws.
Aatrox wants to die but cannot, he chose lamb long ago but death cannot take him. Kindred can only watch.
I mean... Aatrox isn't refusing death. Infact he wishes it. constantly. sadly Kindred can't take him.
Aatrox and all Darkins have immortality, despite Aatrox’s simple wish to just… die. He can’t. Lamb can’t do her job, Wolf has no reason to be there. All Lamb can do is simply watch as Kayle seals Aatrox in his sword. That’s about as close of a death Aatrox will ever get.
Watching the cinematic, I noticed something interesting, though the importance of it is debatable. So far, no one (at least to my knowledge) has mentioned the mark that appears on Tryndamere's sword when the snowflake touches his blade. You've already pointed out that he's an iceborn and his blade is made of eternal ice. However, the symbolism here might be even more intriguing, especially now that we know it's Ashes Hawkshot, who was shot into the air moments before. The snowflake forms a symbol very similar to the Avarosa symbol. This could already be a subtle hint that Ashe is on his way, or that Tryndamere is regaining strength because Ashe is sending him a sign.
While that would be really cool and the ice shape indeed looks like some kind of a symbol (a 4-pointed star shape with 4 "tentacles")... it's nowhere near resembling the Avarosan symbol. The closest match I could find was the Demacian Illuminator Crest and even that one is a pretty big stretch (+ it makes no sense to appear there).
I agree with some of the symbolism. To me the snowflake represents Ashe approaching, and Tryndamere notices this, though possibly subconsciously. That is why he refuses to die on the ground.
Tryndamere saw the snowflake and tired but still going, he got up once again to fight and keep pushing, probably didn't thought of Ashe for it but just see the snowflake made him wake up once more, also, I don't believe Tryndamere is an ice born, neither his sword as well, that's just a Necrit mistake imo
i can’t believe how much layers of stories and fine details riot put into it! thank u necrit for showing them ❤
That's why I love Kindred. The personifications of death, embodying the duality & inevitability of mortality. The complexity between choosing a peaceful ending, or a brutal one. If you told me they were going to be centerpiece behind league's new cinematic, I would've never believed it tbh. This is absolutely peak, makes up for last year 5x over, & sets a new standard going forward.
I'm never getting over this cinematic. An absolute masterpiece.
Never thought i will see a Kindred centered cinematic.Hats off to Riot for this.🤝
I notice that pattern on the kindred fight and leave a comment on the first day of the cinematic. Many people agreed with me but others didn't, as the times passes more people are seeing their fight as something more than just "fighting", and i love this because the kindred's are actually having more attention from the players. I read their lore in 2015 when they launched and was amazed by how good their concept was. I never forget them and when i saw the cinematic about 5 times, i notice that pattern (all the other details i missed because i only focused on the last fight lol)
Kindred is such a unique way to portray death, and it’s shown so perfectly in this cinematic. Riot really needs to just have a branch studio or something full time making media for this universe, it’s so interesting and entertaining!
Yass branch their studio, but do you think they can keep the same quality?
Still here have a ton of references to my favorite parts of lore, and have breathtaking battle choreography - I rewatched it 15 times in one evening. And yeah, Aatrox’s Kayle and Morgana’s scene is one of the most complex air combats that I’ve ever seen in non-anime media.
After watching like 20+ times, I finally stopped to turn on the CC for the lyrics. In each scene there is so synergy with the lyrics and the action in the video. There was so much purpose in the writing of the song.
Even Riot missed Kindred Q, when she's jumping away from Trynd E?! Oooor basically even they didn't realize what they just did by pure coincidence😂
It may be because when kindred uses Q she shoots an arrow aswell which she didn't in the cinematic
YESSS! Im so happy that finally, Kindred get to have screentime especially on a Season Cinematic. But not only that, they gave Kindred a loooot of justice and they executed their lore, relationship, fight scenes so magnificently and it also has in-depth meanings as well. This is a very good year and am also excited because Kindred will be released in Wild Rift, love it so much
I can’t wait for riots League MMO the stories and lore they’re gonna be able to tell is going to be insane
My headcanon for Lamb's headtilt is a mixture of both Curiosity, Indifference and Confusion. She's analyzing Trynd because everytime they meet he refuses to take her easy option, even whilst Wolf is attacking him and she's offering peace, he still attacks her. It's kinda like her going: "Why are you like this?"
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Idk I think explanation of Trynda's situation is very obvious. He did died and Kindred came to collect his soul, as they're omnipresent and they appear automatically for those who are dying.
If he would've just fought why would they come? They're already too busy for coming and watching how a random dude fights.
At 3 minutes of the video we can see that he's lying, completely alone, he doesn't move or breathe. When he's getting up we already can see Lamb and the shadows envelope the space around. Assuming that this is how their ritual begins, they're awakening their prey outside of time and space and making them chose. He chose Wolf and fought him. While doing that he activated Undying Rage and his body started to heal, which made Kindred leave because there was no point for them to be here and he returned in real time and space where we can see other soldier lying and running at him.
It would perfectly explain how his immortality works. He actually dies but every time fights Kindred outside of time, activates his immortality and regeneration and returns.
His LoR ability makes it even more realistic, as he level ups after dying.
I think that head tilt of the lamb is because of a different reason. When kindred appears before somenone, that persons time is up(I'm not deeply connected to the lore so if there is any one else escaped the kindred itself repeatedly except the darkins and the cats please let me know). Meaning either the lamb will claim their life or the wolf. Their life will be claimed no matter what. But here we see a person who fights both wolfs claws and lambs arrows. Of course anybody who refuses the lamb would be in the same situation but Tryndamere also fights back. Yes as the necrit stated in his eyes he is fightin with the wolf but actually he is fighting with his enemies. After Tryndamere spins towards the lamb, the lamb dodges. Her bow is broken but after the dodge it reappears. And the wolf also disappears during the spin and after it reappears but the lamb dodges. So I think Tryndamere starts to understand what is Kindred(Since I believe this is not their first duel, they may have another stand off during Aatrox's invasion or maybe many more times.). And the lamb starts to realise he is special. Not like special but special special. Unlike darkins Tryndamere is mortal, so he can die. That's why they are fighting in the first place and thats why kindred didn't do anything in Aatrox vs Kayle + Morgana scene. She knows she can not claim the darkins so it's just there watching not interfeering. But in Tryndamere's case, Kindred knows he is mortal and can claim his life, but she also can't because of the blood magic(undying rage). So I believe Tryndamere's life can not be claimed in combat (not in a regular one at least). But as she is Kindred she always appears before him everytime to uphold her duty to claim his life but always she can not. And we know lamb is rather merciful, since she claims lifes without pain. So in the end that head tilt is rather both sign of sympathy and nervousness from kindred. Sympathy because the things Tryndamere endures everytime he refuses both lamb and the wolf. And nervousness because yet again she couldn't claim his life. Kindred always claims mortals life but not this one.
Kindred in lore doesn't always only appear at the very moment of death. In kindreds very first short story she appears before a girl twice. Kindred appears at moments where you can and most likely will die but not always the moments before death
@@scottcheng2365 oh thanks for the correction. But doesn’t she only interferes when she is there to collect their life?
so has kindred ever really KILLED anyone? like, they 'represent' death, but they aren't the thing that kill people... or am I wrong?
What I also find interesting is the fact that Kindred "dodged" Tryndameres attack, the one that almost hits the neck. I don't know if "lore wise" Kindred can be slain or beaten (still kind of new to the lore), but the fact that they dodge his attack is fascinating. If they cannot be beaten or slain, or even injured then they would not even bother to dodge, after all what would be the point. If they can be slain, it brings about a whole new aspect, since Tryndamere in theory fights death all the time with his ultimate, he might be one of the few beings ever to come close to defeating/slaying death. Neat stuff. An easy explanation of course is its a riot cinematic and they wanted a fight, not a "im gonna stand here and let you slash at me until your arms give out and we can finally claim you"
The implications you talk about are really cool
I love the fact Kindred is also lining up her 3rd arrow which in game is the kill shot that sets wolf onto your target, just as ashe saves his ass
I think people were just hyped by the cinematic due to 2023's, so a lot more people probably watched it to see if Riot learned their lesson.
You know what would be crazy? Since they aren’t like physical beings, I can imagine Lamb not actually caring if she got sliced because she’d just reform, so what if she dodged instinctively BECAUSE trynd was about to cut their mask, so her body moved on its own as to not be split into 3, but she doesn’t actually realize that, so the head tilt is her being confused as to how she was forced to act
I'm not sure how I feel about the interpretation that old man Yasuo is for certain accepting death in his scene. Mostly because it feels like strange storytelling for the old ronin who thought he had walked away from the sword to take up a blade again to protect a village from bandits only to give up almost immediately with dozens of bandits still within bowshot of the village. I like to think the reason we see aspects of both the Wolf and Lamb looming over him is because he has yet to make his decision, after all, earlier in the scene he also closes his eyes before parrying an arrow at the last moment. And the labelling of the arrow that hits the screen as Hawkshot implies to me that that particular arrow, while symbolic in Yasuo's scene, is actually part of the scene it transitions us into.
I completely agree with you. I have asked this many times but nobody seems to know the answer. Why would Yasuo want to die and why would Kindred want to kill him?
Well, it seemed rushed to me too, but there is still a believeable explanation that he saw the Wolf and knew that his time has come regardless. And at that point he was just a tired old man albeit his powers. It's all killed by the fact that it's his vision and he could see a Pikachu on the Death star shooting superlasers at him and it would make almost as much sence, but at least it is an explanation and a pretty touching one.
@@itsgonnabeokay9341even before Necrit said it or anything, Yasuo is just tired of everything at this point in the lore, he decided to face his things but we don't know what happened in between until that old man Yasuo, still tho, I found it kinda understandable, he was done with fighting, even in his quotes in game says "Death is always by my side" and the wind as well, he just didn't wanted to keep pushing probably, he saved that woman that already flee and probably others before and that was it, as Yasuo puts it also in-game "Looks like the death IS the easy part"
@@IoniaZero Pure baseless assumptions. We don't know that.
@@itsgonnabeokay9341 I mean the creators of the cinematic said in an interview that they wanted to create a version of Yasuo that hasn't used the wind technique or his sword in a very very long time so...
Why would the lamb's head tilt convey curiousity if Tryndamere already met Kindred before in his fight with Aatrox. That does not make sense, since he most likely fought back then and lived that time as well. If anything it's the lamb being impressed with tryndamere almost landing a blow at it. Since the lamb usually never is violent and in close quarters with its pray.
Maybe Kindred just doesn't remember ? They probably killed Thousands of Thousands of people and there are probably even more who escaped them ( Being saved at the edge of Death ) Trynda might just be a random to them.
I love that the fight between Kayle, Morgana and Aatrox fit perfectly with your champion strength tier list
you really killed it on the rankings!
I didnt watch the first necrit video, but wouldnt the trynd and kindred fight just be what tryndamere sees when he is in blood rage? In the physical world, he is fending off the opposing army or other freljord warriors. But for trynd, he sees kindred, and kindred realizes that trynd sees them when lamb tilts her head to the side. Lamb may have realized in that encounter that, "wait, he doesnt see the embodiment of my offering for his death in the soldiers he fights... no.. does he see me?" *head tilt*
And its in the way tryndamere fights, he isnt looking through them, he is looking at them. He is striking at them.
Or maybe the tilt just represents a "hmmm.. wait... its not you thats meant to accept this peaceful death today tryndamere... no its the 2 men behind you". *head tilt* As Lamb switches to offering the 2 warriors behind trynd a peaceful death. Since the situation became clear when ashe intervened.
I still maintain that Tryndamere merely managed to stay alive for long enough for Ashe to save his hide rather than him actually "fighting off" or "defeating" Kindred. Nobody in the lore is strictly speaking "immortal", even if someone like Mordekaiser or Kindred themselves comes very close. Tryndamere is a mortal. Even if he kept fighting and raging forever, he would die from exhaustion and lack of nutrition sooner or later. Aatrox as well is only 'immortal' for as long as his magical prison isn't destroyed.
Aurelion Sol is pretty immortal in the sense that he can't die of old age and actually killing him would require a power we have yet to see in LoL universe.
@@itsgonnabeokay9341 He comes close. As does Mordekaiser, as well as Kindred themselves. But the lore doesn't explicitly states that they cannot be killed. It only implies that doing so would be extremely difficult, require unknown methods or require a highly unlikely set of circumstances.
@@SleepyFen Everything can be killed by this logic. He is still immortal. Azathoth can also technically be killed, but good luck with that.
@@itsgonnabeokay9341 That's the point I'm making. Nowhere in the lore does it state that any being is full-on immortal. We have ageless entities and powerful beings who have never been slain, and we have those who return to life through some mechanism like Aatrox and the inhabitants of the Shadow Isles. But I can't think of anything in the universe completely immune to Kindred. At most, they've put death on hold for now.
Asol is gonna easily outlive Runterra and therefore Kindred. If we are talking about immortality in terms of power scaling then it depends on which system you use. Asol definitely has type 1 which usually is eternal life as well as type 3: immortality via Regeneration, possibly type 4: Immortality via Resurrection, type 6: Parasitic immortality, type 8: Reliant immortality and type 9: Transcendental immortality. @@SleepyFen
My favorite detail is the difference in Tryndameres fighting style with and without his rage. Untill he actually pops off the ult (and his eyes go red), his fighting style looks focused and well composed. Even the arrow shattering shot looks, precise, calculated. When Undying Rage starts, he becomes volatile, wild... literally raging and blindly fending off the death. It is very clear by how he knocks the 2nd arrow, carelessly, almost random.
I can't stop remembering this cinematic and remembering the details damn riot really got us hooked. This is just starting and it's already this epic, I'm so excited on what's more to come on legue's lore and arcane 😭
If you look at the new quests, there's even more to this
I am just happy seeing Kindred into action. They are so cool and helps me to find myself more.
To me it doesnt count if you use KDA's comback and not their og song Pop/Star. Once it beats THAT since its tecahincally the highest ranking viewed vid that Riot wver dropped. Since PopStars is sitting at Beyonce numbers with a whooping 583M views.
THEN it will be something. Until then, its just pretty good.
There's a small scene where Lamb tilts her head, like she was thinking "why does this guy keeps holding on to life?". That was an amazing moment. EDIT: On second watch, Necrit did mention the tilt, and it made even more sense. This cinematic is one of the best pieces of media Riot has ever released.
I wanna throw my 5 cents. I feel the purpose of this video is “surrendering to ‘death’”. Aatrox dropped the sword (and knowing he only wants to die o destroy everything), Yasuo didn’t pull the wind wall. So two cases of just accepting what has come to them. But then Tryndamere strikes like an oddball. In my opinion, Kindred head tilt might be a tip off on how Tryndamere is feeling. Maybe Tryndamere wants to embrace it and is tired or afraid of this Undying Rage curse. So when Kindred is facing him, she is curious what is going on since she probably feels he wants to let go. Hence why she keeps double checking with her shots. She is just confused cause maybe, since it is happening in Tryndamere’s head, she can feel his true desire.
Anyway, thanks for the video
I like that as it switches from Yasuo to Tryndamere, with the view of the sky, you can see a circle detonating into snowflakes, which is the effect when Ashe's E reaches its target. It subtly indicates that Ashe knows where Tryndamere is and doesn't just stumble on the fight happening.
No one ever said anything about Yasuo's strange behavior. He did not kill his enemies or even wound them. He just scattered them in different directions. It actually looked like he was SAVING them.
When the first arrow flew at him, he had already closed his eyes, but for some reason he decided to “fight”, without even touching anyone.
Can you feel it?
12:00 Also, actually the moment when Tryndamere swings on Kindred and destroys her bow and amlmost scratches her. She may look surprised not because she was surprised that Tryndamere doesn't die, as we discussed. As she represents the peaceful death, she may be surprised that Tryndamere doesn't want to accept the peaceful death and wants to face a difficult one. Because it would not make sense for Tryndamere to attack Kindred in that moment as he was fighting the wolf and Kindred was standing and doing nothing. Tryndamere intentionally swings through the wolf and trying to reach Kindred, wolf was not even his target in that moment, so this way he is kind of rejecting a peaceful death.
2) One more of the possible explanations also why Kindred is surprised in that moment is that. Logically, Kindred attacks only when person is ready to accept peaceful death. Wolf attacks when person resists to peaceful death. In this case, they are attacking both at the same time. This can represent that Tryndamere as a human would like to accept peaceful death, but because of the Undying Rage, he cannot do it and needs to fight. That is why she surprised, cause one moment his eyes are blue and he kind of looks like a human who would accept peaceful death, couple seconds later he is a red eye monster which swings like crazy trying to attack her.
My guess would be surprise because its probably the first time she almost got touched... Just as u said he ignored wolf and went for the lamb, not only would that be unexpected but also new to them... As far as I remember in all the lore I've read of Kindred, they're always metaphorical and something else is what kills the victim in the real world, the victim only sees Kindred claiming them... that forest where those goons were killed by the fire, wolf's death, the old women with the heartattack, lamb's arrow... but someone attacking death itself, now thats new, and only possible as Trynd is alr supposed to be dead but Undying Rage keeps him alive
Wait really?? That's what took people so long to realise? I thought the "peceful death from The Lamb vs resisting your destiny against The Wolf" stuff would be like the first thing to pop up in people's mind when they watch this cinematic, even if they barely keep up with the lore. A bit disappointed in you, community. And even more so in you Necrit.
All in good manners of course. Not gonna blame any of you. Especially if so many people missed it, then maybe it's not as obvious as I thought, idk.
Whats even more incredible about all of this is that the lyrics of the song perfecting alines and subtly mentions everyting that you are saying in a way, both in morg/kayle part, trynda part and even yasuo part, this is trully a masterpiece
It is interesting how in 40 minutes of analysis, Necrit actually hasn't mentioned the lyrics at all.
@@GiuseppeGaetanoSabatelli I know right, ig there is a 3rd vid incoming lol
I don't know if it's been brought up yet, but I have a new theory. In your past video you claimed that the fight and interactions with Kindred are only in the mind of the person engaging with them. That would be a rather obvious answer since random Kindred arrow marks on dead people or Wolf bite/claw marks would be odd if they showed up on every person who ever died or every Noxian. However, there is a different detail with Tryndamere. I believe that if the engagement between Kindred and the one who is about to die does not "go well", that the result is different. In the cinematic, Wolf bites/claws Tryndamere's shoulder-guard, leaving a very obvious mark. There is no weapon among the warriors he's fighting that could inflict that, nor the body of a wolf/dog can be seen nearby when the camera pans out. In fact, the appearance of that mark is so odd that even Ashe looks it rather puzzled and even glances around their surroundings, as if looking for the source of it, but cannot find it. I feel that when someone's abilities or "destiny" directly conflict with Kindred's purpose as "Death", that some of their interaction begins to bleed into the physical world. It's these incredibly rare and minor details that would actually give some amount of life to their legend and lore rather than being an entity that is never seen, never heard, and no proof of them exists.
I think Tryndamere going for a swing at Lamb is not only unusual as Necrit puts it but extremely rare and possibly only something someone infused with blood magic does. Mby this means that Tryndamere can attempt to defeat death. This is also reinforced because after that attack Tryndameres eyes glow red with the blood magic.
In that case he is curious as to why he was able to take a swing at a peaceful death. When you fight, you fight the wolf.
When I say defeat death I mean that mby Tryndamere can't die from a peaceful death (the lamb) for some time or mby that Tryndamere can defeat his own peaceful death and will only be able to die from combat i.e the wolf. If that is the case however I don't think Tryndamere would be able to realize this and only defends himself instead. This also draw interesting comparisons to Olaf and his undying rage.
As I see it Yasuo did not give up nor did he accept; They made the scene, to close his eyes the same way, as he casted the wind wall the first time on purpose, so it would be up for interpretation. (That's why we did not se him die.) Both Lamb and Wolf are represented here because of the possibilities for both outcome.
And rejection would fit with the message more "Still here" I think.
Or at least the rejection of the vision. Hence why we don't see him decide.
Okay but Yasuo just used his empowered Q on the bossman, if the cinematics are showing off abilities why couldn't he just ULT the guy and dodge the arrows lol
Steps to appreciating the Still Here cinematic:
Step 1: Watch the Still Here cinematic
Step 2: Repeat Step 1 several more times for good measure
Step 3: Watch reaction videos
Step 4: Watch Necrit analysis videos
Step 5: Just keep repeating Step 1-
There is foreshadowing that Kindred (the lamb) will be the one to finally get Tryndamere in the end. As the cinematic ends with Tryndamere once more choosing to resist, overpowering the wolf and not giving up, yet Kindred doesn't leave, the lamb only transforms, as Ashe, Tryndamere's love and wife literally steps into the spot of Kindred. This could be a cinematic way to foreshadow how Ashe will be his lamb, and he will choose to die one day, at peace, maybe with her or for her. When all battles are won and there is no more need to fight with undying rage!
One point I haven't seen anyone mention so far is that the bandits that started attacking Yasuo in the beginning recognized him immediately as soon as they saw his scar. Before Yasuo tilts his head up and shows the scar, the bandits are seen joking around and doesn't take this old man that just walked out seriously. But as soon as Yasuo tilts his head and shows the scar (and no more!) the bandits immediately tense up and attack.
There is no reason for them to go into action that fast and that seriously unless they saw something right then, and the only thing that was revealed from the head tilt was Yasuo's scar. Remember, they didn't walk up to Yasuo like he was an old man, threatening him or "toying" with him as they seemingly joke about at first. They rush him without coordinating and try to kill him before Yasuo gets to attack them back. This fails of course, because he is who they fear he is.
And if this animation is Yasuo returning to his ways after leaving it behind for a long time, then the bandits have no way of knowing who he is based on previous experience - they can't have met him before. They are too young to have seen or faced him before, as Yasuo realistically shouldn't have been fighting for many years.
What's cool with this is that means that stories of Yasuo must be passed down in the populace, specifically mentioning his scar as an identifying feature and that he is a force to be reckoned with.
I also think that kindred was puzzled as trynd actually lashing out at her is not a normal thing. It implies that somehow tynd can actually perceive her as a real entity and that's strange. Same with wolf actually having to jump in the way of tynd, people would normally fight wolf not attack lamb.
Also to continue with what you were saying, Aatrox who would want death has the image of Lamb in the fire not the wolf.
Am I the only one noticing that each time Trynda attacks, it counts up to 4 hits/kills on the guys in the background and Ashe come in and kill 2, which is a result of the 6 enemies on the ground at the end.
Trynda hit 6-7 times overall, but some of them were parries, 4 of them were attacks. kinda fun detail that the wolf and kindred he attacked, was a killing blow to the raiders.
Wasn't renekton and ahri supposed to make an appearance in the cinematic? Thry were teased to be in it with kayle and aatrox
There was a theory that trynda never really wanted to oppose death, which is why lamb shot at him, but then his blood magic worked up and refused death and so wolf came at him, then he was back to consciouscness and accepted death so lamb shot at him, then his blodo magic...
You are kind of contradicting yourself! My interpretation of the tilt is also that Kindred was curious because I think this is their first meeting! But you said earlier that they have met before so that would mean that they are familiar with Tryndamere therefore in this case the tilt would be about something else.
I think the cinematic's Morgana and Kayle part is from Canticle Of The Winged Sisters story - VII (The Battle of Zeffira) and VIII (What Cannot be Undone) because as of my understanding there is a time jump after VIII, so they don't split instantly after that. And they line up quite well (Before that it only talks about them existing, so this can be an old story, just as the cinematic and after that talks about them sort of working together then splitting up)
14:21 u would not believe me, but i have finished watching it twice xD
First time when it came out, and second time recently, because i completely forgot what it was about 😂
Meh, too much overthinking .. Yasuo's windwall is in cooldown, so he can't use it .. Duh ~ 🤣🤣🤣
Necrit isn’t that hawkshot though as you can clearly see at the end of the scene with yasuo it has wings. It's probably just a clever effect for a transition
Makes no sense that in Yasuo's final moment that to be Ashe's hawk shot.He accepted his death and Lamb takes him while Wolf stands back.
Why is ashe using her ability to find trynda? She could have just looked at the map...
Another interesting take is that towards the end of Tryndamere's fight with Kindred, prior to Ashe's volley, you can see that he was eventually going to submit to Lamb as his reaper.
It just so happened that Death (Lamb) was a split second away from winning. You can see this when Ashe's volleys were shot (which couldve been Lamb's), and Tryndamere did not flinch to defend himself (an act of accepting his death). Crazy stuff Rito.
Yasuo: "I will follow this path until the end"
Maybe the vision will happen someday
Maybe change the tier list since the trynd stronger than kindred and that will make also the darkin stronger than kind 😑 and all those stronger than aurelion sol
I feel like Riot is trying to compensate so hard for the disaster that was last season cinematic and that's completely fine
Sweet vid.
See you in 3 days for the Extra Super Lore References :)
Idk I thought it was fairly obvious it was morganas r and not q lol
7:19 so death = santa...... so thats why all the dads in christmas movies are gone
Me waiting for kindred rework knowing it won't happen at all...
I also think that Lamb put down her bow, while casting the last arrow, is on purpose aswell. Tryn is still fighting those soliders while seeing kindred, and at the moment ashe casts her volley, the lamb cancles her shot, cause she knows that ashes arrows will kill the last source through which Tryn could actually die in that moment.
13:36, in the middle of the flames, isn t that Kindred's silhouette?
The only problem I have with this cinematic is Yasuo dying to a random arrow shot by a random guy in a random battle.
He saw it coming and he just chose to bite the dust
9 more times . Yasuo need to envision this . Then he hits his powerspike
people like to forgt that lamb and wolf are largely concepts not exactly fully physical beings
People don't forget this. They don't know it. Which is even sadder
One thing to note, in the Spirit Blossom video when Yone and Yasuo met again defeating the demon. Yasuo told Yone to have his revenge for killing him. Yone instead replied, "You may deserve death. But not by my hand." This also might be a hint that Yone knows that Kindred is the one that is going to claim his death. Just an interesting hunch.
No, Kindred always gets the kills regardless of who does it. What Yone wanted was for Yasuo to literally die on his own.
@@keku52 Either way we will never know Riot's real intention on how Yasuo's death is portrayed. Again its just a hunch from me. It will be awesome if it is. Linking this cinematic with the Spirit Blossom ones.
brink of infinity.. first time I heard of it tbh xD
3 hours later - “Still Here” surpasses 90 mil.
The what
Riot: Lets make a really cool scene where yasuo dies to a random arrow from ashe to splice the scenes together!
Necrit: You see! The arrow represents--- (13 minutes later)
Riot: Uh.. Ye, YES! Yes ahaha... That's what we did! ehehehe ^^' Right?!
Also Riot: Uhh-I'unno..
Is that kindred wolf in the trees? 4:11