This is the best instruction on shallowing the club of all the videos I have ever watched. I have watched about 100 videos on this issue, and they do not really help you achieve the end result you need.. I'm not saying that there are not any good ones but the whole transition piece to it is what separates being able to execute properly, and this is the only video that clearly explains this. Mike Malaska is great.. He spoke about some of the positions and drills that other instructors teach and he is exactly right.. Those positions are static and you can't achieve the full swing just practicing those static positional movements. It's all about the full swing and transition and feel to make the swing effective. Mike Malaska has got to be one of the wisest instructors I have ever listened to.
see, eric is the goat because he actually explains everything, the feels and the reals, most teachers don't give their students enough credit in my opinion and just give them the feels so they never actually understand what they're trying to do.
Your work with Malaska are your best so. I’ve watched his videos longer then yours, but his explanations have never been as clear as they are with you. You two should be a permanent team. You bring out the best in each other.
Greg Nye You are absolutely on the ball. I get more out of Malaska with Cogorno who asks the right questions and gets better definition. They should team up a lot more.
@matt becham everyone on Earth does. Two teachers who take pride in their knowledge didn't allow ego to prevent collaboration. Took humility to collaborate. It wasn't an insult.
The emphasis on individualized instruction is so important. I once took a lesson from a well known instructor who just repeated the exact same lines he uses on his RUclips channel. A total waste of time and money. These collaborations are very helpful. Thank you.
The 14:45 to 15:00 section is what I have to feel in order to strike the ball well. It's taken me a couple years of watching Mike's videos in order to piece this all together, but man....every couple months I just get better and better at FEELING and then seeing what he's talking about. Mike IS the best!!
What Mike is talking about at 12:30 is just what I need. I never heard it explained that way. I've been the guy that's been slowing down swings on TV, reading the golf magazines, and trying to get into static swing positions. I would learn swings that I thought were correct, but with no speed and force. I've been under the plain too much on the downswing. I'm pretty much a wasted talent. Well, better late than never to learn all this. :)
Eric, I think it has been so beneficial for all golfers to watch you collaborating with other online instructors on issues that you all address. It is clear that while your methods may differ, your purpose in achieving an outcome are exactly the same. Thank you. You are the best!
Eric, these videos you’ve been doing with all these other instructors has been profound. It shows that you’re humble and still willing to learn more, and that’s going to make you that much better of a teacher. I know who I’d be visiting if I lived anywhere near Bethesda. Keep up the great work.
New to golf at age 40, and 2 years ago followed Mike Malaska religiously. One day I did the "drop the shaft, tilt the face out" like in this video and shot my best round to date. Couldnt explain it to myself or my playing partner. Went away from Malaska and shooting solid bogey golf again. Time to go back to Malaska.
Hahaha… and we all know who you’re referring to with this comment. I will say that I may never had heard of Malaysia or Milo Lines, or Bobby Lopez without him so there’s that…
Eric I love your videos. But I came across Mike a few years before I did you. HE IS THE BEST. For all levels. He simplifies it better than anybody I’ve ever seen. And he’s right
AH HA! moment. The best four videos with Eric and Mike I have ever seen. For years I was taught to point the butt of the club at the ball and shallow on the downswing that wouldn't let me square up the face. I tried to emulate these moves that Eric and Mike are describing and I can say it totally works. Just wish I saw these videos years ago.
Having watched this info on MM videos before I can't applaud it enough. I was the posterboy for getting the club under the plane. After applying this info I improved tremendously. One cause of getting under is attempting to hit it too hard leading to the hips firing too soon and leaving the arms behind. Great video.
This is the best video I have ever watched. I went from hitting my 8 iron 145 yards to almost 160 yards. Also my balance is so much better and the swing feels effortless. Thank you both!
Mike Malaska has beautifully figuered out the process of momentum in the whole golf swing - the player's hands and the club head/face find the slot and timed arrival at the ball through this process of momentum - NOT in stages as such. I've learnt (and felt) so much through his teaching. Best wishes to all from London, UK.
Greatness! Years of instruction compacted and simplified in this video.... My compliments to Eric joining with Mike on these instructions. This gave me a much better understanding of many of the swing nuances... I'm a fan!
@@CogornoGolf Eric, feeling better contact with an early hinge, but making sure to turn the face of the club away at the top as to not "cup" the wrist.
I went straight to the comments after watching this and saw that others already said exactly what I was thinking...great to see your numbers are up, it was only a matter of time! Deff my favorite golf channel out there, except now more people are following too! Congrats man, keep up the great content!
Why am I just seeing this now. This video and the hip position video 😀 after a year bashing my head against a brick wall trying to master set positions and time the transition. Went to the range today and was blown away by the results. Just a natural fluid motion. Fixes my overswing, hitting it fat etc. Only variation is I like to feel my lead hand knuckles facing down at impact rather than brushing the grass feel with trail hand. These series of videos are a genuine game changer.
Best video I have seen in regards to the psychology of how to get a shallow swing and how it's not just piecing together still frames. I have been very frustrated because there have been times that I have been able to get that shallow plane and get the compression then I can't quite graph how and I think this video is going to help me calibrate my brain to find that feel on the downswing to get there.
this is one of the BEST instructional videos I've seen. Eric and Mike did a fantastic job -I like the idea where you have to be MOVING to get a proper swing - NOT static. Thanks you two!!
That's the big take-away for me on this, is not to practice getting into those static positions (checkpoints), but to *let the body transition solve all that.* Looked up that David Duval & Charlie Rymer video... pretty neat. 👍
Eric of all your instructors you have interviewed Mike has really helped me think about the swing much better. The video on the hip movement was a game changer and this one too! Great work man.
@@CogornoGolf the hip video is gold... I am just catching up to the freedom of movement that the hip motion allows. my swing speed is up over 10%! the ball is travelling a full club further with less effort... so grateful
@@CogornoGolf If I took a lesson from him I might record it to not let any information get away. I mean youre used to speak in videos and do so very well, but this guy didnt give you much chance haha
Wow, I’ve been fighting that force past 20 years. Awesome video. Covid 19 no more golf lesson. This is an essential public service for all the quarantine golfers.
Just love how the both of you break it down to a feeling that each individual golfer has to develop to their swing. it's great to know as much about the golf swing but not over analyze it. KISS method. I loved Payne Stewart's swing. soooo smooth!
This video changed my whole golf life. I’ve actually been wondering why we all like non pro golfers have to have the same movements against the pros having all those different moves such as DJ and Kaepka. This video is amazing and it proved that I should follow what I feel more based on the basic necessary movements in golf! Thank you!!
Eureka ! Best explanation of weight transfer I have seen yet. Work the Step Drill in at the range and u will see the difference. A little uncomfortable at first, but same physics as throwing a baseball.
Good video. Listen to Mike about practicing static positions or slo mo practice (11:50 & 15:10). My 2 cents is until you can learn to allow tension free shoulders, arms and wrists you will be fishing for feels. With tension your feel will be different every day or possibly every swing. Do you feel more tension with golf swing than you do with a tennis racket , throwing a ball, or BB bat? Old saying "give up control to gain control" works in golf, business and life.
Feel VS. real is such an important thing to get your head around. Just look at Moe Norman posing in the positions that he felt he was in, clubface pointing behind him, right knee almost on the ground. Jeff Ritter said he feels like he swings like Furyk, but in reality he’s exactly on plane up and down
I’ve been following Mike for a couple of years now his method of teaching is very easy to understand, also Eric I just subscribed to your channel great collaboration!!👍
Eric excellent video. My Challenges are 1. Not bending my left arm on the backswing leads to chicken wing on follow through 2. Finding the fight Rhythm & Tempo to accomplish what you and Mike demonstrated. Can’t wait for your next session with Mike.
Thanks John! Appreciate the kind words. Check out www.cogornogolf.com so I can see a video of your swing....we can fix those things no problem but I have to see your swing
The first half of the video Mike teaches and sounds exactly like Golfletics! The difference I see is at 12:26 where Mike describes the problem of getting too inside and under because of some lateral slide and too much tilt Mike teaches to overcome it with his tipping feel while Milo would generally fix the body pivot issue that caused the club to get under! Cool video 👍
6string - Dave Milo quit playing in 2008 and started teaching full time in 2009 at my home course in Utah. I started working with him back then and his ideas are generally unchanged with a few changes to how he teaches setup. Not sure when he started working under Malaska but I know he wasn’t permitted to market himself during that time which is why he only recently has a footprint online.
OMG! This was even better than I'd hoped for! Thanks for taking the time to really clarify this Eric and Mike. It's so hard to talk about feels 'in motion' yet sooo valuable and you guys did a great job here. I spent some time with the shaft tipping Malaska move/feel and, though this is probably just my own feel, I'm sharing incase it works for anyone else. So my initial misunderstanding of the 'malaska move', based on what it looks like visually made be pull the hands down at first so I got steep which was really not good. However, once I worked out how to get that shaft tipping feeling/movement without yanking on the shaft I started shallowing out the shaft big time! For me, if I can tip the shaft subtly and feel almost like the hands and club stay high like they're not going down to the ball my body reacts by getting lower, using the ground more, rotating more and a lot of good things happen as a by-product. For me, if I feel like I'm consciously lowering anything which logically aligns with the usual shallowing advice of dropping hands club behind - i get nowhere. In contrast, feeling Mike's move subtly like the club stays 'up' ironically gets the shaft to drop because, feeling a little higher makes my body wan't to move more dynamically to get to the ball. Don't know if this makes sense to anyone but me but might help someone. Anyway I think what is gold here is the acknowledgment that a description of what is happening does not necessarily correlate to the feel, which in my case is exactly right. Literally feels like the polar opposite. Thanks for a great video Eric!
Christian Traynor wow your feel is exactly what Golfletics says in his video shallow like a major champion. Cool you figured it out because in all the Malaska videos I’ve seen he says handle down head out while keeping body closed.
@@ablgolfmom6211 Hey I checked out the vid. Was a really good one! I'm quite short as well so watching milo really helps me. What also helped me was a really good youtuber James Wiltshire golfer and longdriver. He is a PT so explains body movements in a way i find easy to understand having myself done a lot of fitness/different workouts for sports/movement before.He left me a comment about how simply squatting into the ground helps shallow in itself, which helped me feel it a lot too. Check him out. Play well!
This wrist with the stick is such an awesome theory. Like a fastball for power and curveball no power. Also the steep backswing feel to shallow enough to stay on plane is awesome. Ive tried it and have alot more power
I am trying to make this work for me. It is hard to know if I am getting it right because everything happens so fast. I think I am getting there when I think: light grip, loose shoulders and arms, pause or wait at top and then speed when you need it not before. If I try to do anything like pulling down or standing up the shaft I am into correcting things late and often leave the face way open. Old dog and new tricks. But I do think Mikes approach can lead to better face control and being more accurate. So I continue on in my garage until golf resumes. Thanks great video
Thanks for the message and hope you get it sorted, Ronald! We all struggle with this: "I am trying to make this work for me. It is hard to know if I am getting it right because everything happens so fast." -Best to be recording yourself with video and working with a coach to work through it!
I started working on this move because I’ve been a handle drag flipper for my whole career. I was plagued with the shanks and pushes after a back injury and age took some flexibility away. I was a scratch player and golf coach for forty years. This is the first time I’ve really understood why I was having troubles. I started working on this and suddenly my soft draw to straight was back. I got the feeling that my shoulders were closed longer and that I wasn’t chasing contact.
Great conversation. Thank you. Regarding the transition move, I understand in tennis etc your arms move back and at the same time your weight moves forward. However, how you really do this motion in golf is not clear to me. Any comments appreciated.
Hey! Here is some more info on the transition for you: ruclips.net/video/CvAN608kqz0/видео.html ruclips.net/video/PF5u7lGc1cY/видео.html ruclips.net/video/yycej75cYIo/видео.html
@@CogornoGolf Thank you Eric.I will try these drills. What I see again and again is: weight pressure to the leading foot is a must before anything else.
Excellent video. It is fun watching two great teachers talk golf instruction. Did not know that you "dabbled" in tennis, I imagine you were pretty good!!!
Lol you like that?!?! I didn't feel like telling him that I was world class back in high school despite the doubts of my good friend Jack. Megan would have been in trouble...
I like that he never tells two students the same thing, because everyone is different. Thats what I've been looking for in a local coach. Work with my tendencies and feels, not Joe Shmoe's.
Eric, Looking at Tom Watson’s swing, to me his swing path looks like what Mike is explaining with respect the Joe Nichols move. Steep then transitioning to a flat area then back to steep.
Still got 7 minutes to go and it’s just incredible. His FEELS are what I have felt naturally since I was a kid. When you try to FORCE SHALLOWING, go play another sport because it will drive you insane. Shallowing is natural.TIP IT
15:00 makes so much sense, no one is trying to flip it, they automatically flip it because there trying so hard not too so they get caught behind their body and automatically flip the wrists to catch up. if you try and feel the flip you'll actually end up flipping late because it's your focus and you'll react late as apposed to it being subconscious.
Eric, I have seen all your videos with Mike, and they are absolutely fantastic. „We are an art“🏌️🏌️Could both of you do a video on the philosophy of golf? No teaching, just talking - it would be a great thing during the lockdown (I am writing from Germany and we are still in there). Many thanks for all the great stuff👍
Appreciate the kind words my friend! Thats a good idea...I dont think we will end up getting that done during current time frame but maybe in the future!
Wow another great video with you and Mike.! The one thing needs to explain is if the club head automatically by force start to shallow out..then how can you explain casting the club..which I think I do...please help.thanks
Thanks! Casting usually due to clubface to open.....its a way to square the face The other reason could be too steep a downswing and it acts to shallow the clubhead I would have to see your swing to say for sure....thats easy to fix if I know WHY you're doing it! Check out www.cogornogolf.com so I can see your swing and answer your questions more specific to you....you have had some good questions on various videos!
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Best golf content on RUclips hands down.
Thanks, Will! Appreciate ya my friend!
This is the best instruction on shallowing the club of all the videos I have ever watched. I have watched about 100 videos on this issue, and they do not really help you achieve the end result you need.. I'm not saying that there are not any good ones but the whole transition piece to it is what separates being able to execute properly, and this is the only video that clearly explains this. Mike Malaska is great.. He spoke about some of the positions and drills that other instructors teach and he is exactly right.. Those positions are static and you can't achieve the full swing just practicing those static positional movements. It's all about the full swing and transition and feel to make the swing effective. Mike Malaska has got to be one of the wisest instructors I have ever listened to.
Appreciate it! Mike is great!!
My boy Eric Cogorno finally getting the respect he deserves in this game. No online instruction has helped me more than yours.
Thanks, Courney! Hope all is well my friend!
Open the door...close the door...!!💡
Same here. Best Malaska advice for me - ever. Thanks Eric for the help!
see, eric is the goat because he actually explains everything, the feels and the reals, most teachers don't give their students enough credit in my opinion and just give them the feels so they never actually understand what they're trying to do.
He’s a class act and so is Mike. No fluff in these joint instructor videos👍
Lessons from Eric and Mike together is the best golf instruction content in existence. These videos alone are going to drop scores instantly.
Thanks, Ron! Appreciate it my friend!
This is quite possibly one of the best golf swing videos ever created!!!
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Your work with Malaska are your best so. I’ve watched his videos longer then yours, but his explanations have never been as clear as they are with you. You two should be a permanent team. You bring out the best in each other.
Greg Nye You are absolutely on the ball. I get more out of Malaska with Cogorno who asks the right questions and gets better definition. They should team up a lot more.
Thanks for the kind words guys! We would love to work with Mike more!
@@jboy5744 very well said!!
You guys are setting ego aside and moving golf instruction forward. Respect & gratitude.
Appreciate it David! Thanks for being with us!
@matt becham everyone on Earth does. Two teachers who take pride in their knowledge didn't allow ego to prevent collaboration. Took humility to collaborate. It wasn't an insult.
The emphasis on individualized instruction is so important. I once took a lesson from a well known instructor who just repeated the exact same lines he uses on his RUclips channel. A total waste of time and money. These collaborations are very helpful. Thank you.
Thanks for being with us, Ronald!
These videos with Mike Malaska have been golden. Thanks for spending time with Mr. Malaska and for posting these videos.
Our pleasure my friend...appreciate the kind words and you being with us!
This is, by far, the best instructional golf video ever made!!!
Really appreciate that! Thanks for being here with us!
@@CogornoGolf i really had no clue that transition begins so early
The 14:45 to 15:00 section is what I have to feel in order to strike the ball well. It's taken me a couple years of watching Mike's videos in order to piece this all together, but man....every couple months I just get better and better at FEELING and then seeing what he's talking about. Mike IS the best!!
Love to hear that! He's great!!
What Mike is talking about at 12:30 is just what I need. I never heard it explained that way. I've been the guy that's been slowing down swings on TV, reading the golf magazines, and trying to get into static swing positions. I would learn swings that I thought were correct, but with no speed and force. I've been under the plain too much on the downswing. I'm pretty much a wasted talent. Well, better late than never to learn all this. :)
Hope it helps :)
"quicker" v "earlier" ...now that's MONEY!!
From the 2 best instructors on youtube!
:)
Eric, I think it has been so beneficial for all golfers to watch you collaborating with other online instructors on issues that you all address. It is clear that while your methods may differ, your purpose in achieving an outcome are exactly the same. Thank you. You are the best!
Appreciate it Frank! Lots of great coaches we visited over the winter...hope it helps everyone play better!
Eric, these videos you’ve been doing with all these other instructors has been profound. It shows that you’re humble and still willing to learn more, and that’s going to make you that much better of a teacher. I know who I’d be visiting if I lived anywhere near Bethesda. Keep up the great work.
Thanks, Michael! Appreciate the kind words my friend! We learned a lot from everyone over the past few months it has been awesome!
New to golf at age 40, and 2 years ago followed Mike Malaska religiously. One day I did the "drop the shaft, tilt the face out" like in this video and shot my best round to date. Couldnt explain it to myself or my playing partner. Went away from Malaska and shooting solid bogey golf again. Time to go back to Malaska.
Glad to hear that, Don! He's great and can definitely help you!
Great collaboration. Watched other people team up with Mike but you let him explain things and listen. Great lesson.
Thanks, Paul!
Hahaha… and we all know who you’re referring to with this comment. I will say that I may never had heard of Malaysia or Milo Lines, or Bobby Lopez without him so there’s that…
Eric I love your videos. But I came across Mike a few years before I did you. HE IS THE BEST. For all levels. He simplifies it better than anybody I’ve ever seen. And he’s right
Thanks, Doug! He's awesome!
the interaction between Mike and Eric really helps to understand the points they are teaching
Thanks for being with us, Tom!
Mike is the Jedi master in golf, may the force be with you
He's great!
Eric - I have always enjoyed your videos but you and Mike together talking through the swing is awesome.
Appreciate it, Joe :)
AH HA! moment. The best four videos with Eric and Mike I have ever seen. For years I was taught to point the butt of the club at the ball and shallow on the downswing that wouldn't let me square up the face. I tried to emulate these moves that Eric and Mike are describing and I can say it totally works. Just wish I saw these videos years ago.
Glad to hear that, Ed! Thanks for being with us!
I watch all videos of both teachers, it makes sense they would be great together. Both bring knowledge to the game not egos. Thanks guys.
Thanks, Mike! Appreciate it my friend!
Having watched this info on MM videos before I can't applaud it enough. I was the posterboy for getting the club under the plane. After applying this info I improved tremendously. One cause of getting under is attempting to hit it too hard leading to the hips firing too soon and leaving the arms behind. Great video.
Thanks Matt! Appreciate the kind words and glad you got it sorted.....for sure if you UNDER plan one needs to feel more OVER plane.....and vise versa
This is the best video I have ever watched. I went from hitting my 8 iron 145 yards to almost 160 yards. Also my balance is so much better and the swing feels effortless. Thank you both!
:) Love it! Our pleasure!
Mike Malaska has beautifully figuered out the process of momentum in the whole golf swing - the player's hands and the club head/face find the slot and timed arrival at the ball through this process of momentum - NOT in stages as such. I've learnt (and felt) so much through his teaching. Best wishes to all from London, UK.
Appreciate you being with us! He's great!
Mike Malaska is very impressive. Authoritative & gives an excellent description on how forces shape the swing outcome.
agreed! He's great!
Greatness! Years of instruction compacted and simplified in this video.... My compliments to Eric joining with Mike on these instructions. This gave me a much better understanding of many of the swing nuances... I'm a fan!
Thanks, J.P! Appreciate you being with us!
Outstanding instruction and explanation on transition per Malaska.
Thank you!!
That offset feeling and the actual motion is what makes this game so darn perplexing! Well said.
Absolutely! Our intuitive feels often times are OPPOSITE in golf! Goofy game :)
@@CogornoGolf Eric, feeling better contact with an early hinge, but making sure to turn the face of the club away at the top as to not "cup" the wrist.
I went straight to the comments after watching this and saw that others already said exactly what I was thinking...great to see your numbers are up, it was only a matter of time! Deff my favorite golf channel out there, except now more people are following too! Congrats man, keep up the great content!
Appreciate it, Daniel! ITs been a fun ride so far!
this is pure gold EC, it reminds me of the old Golf Channel Academy shows with Malaska and Jim Flick 💯
Thanks, John! IT was a lot of fun for us!
Why am I just seeing this now. This video and the hip position video 😀 after a year bashing my head against a brick wall trying to master set positions and time the transition. Went to the range today and was blown away by the results. Just a natural fluid motion. Fixes my overswing, hitting it fat etc. Only variation is I like to feel my lead hand knuckles facing down at impact rather than brushing the grass feel with trail hand. These series of videos are a genuine game changer.
Awesome stuff!! Thanks for watching!
Best video I have seen in regards to the psychology of how to get a shallow swing and how it's not just piecing together still frames. I have been very frustrated because there have been times that I have been able to get that shallow plane and get the compression then I can't quite graph how and I think this video is going to help me calibrate my brain to find that feel on the downswing to get there.
Appreciate it--Mike is great!
Best explanation ever!!! Eric, thanks for being us in the Malaska videos. His concepts have changed my game!!
Thanks for being with us! Fun to hang with Mike that day....glad to hear that my friend!
I could watch these two guys talk swing all day. Feels versus reals!
:) Mike is awesome! Easy to talk and work with!!
this is one of the BEST instructional videos I've seen. Eric and Mike did a fantastic job -I like the idea where you have to be MOVING to get a proper swing - NOT static. Thanks you two!!
That's the big take-away for me on this, is not to practice getting into those static positions (checkpoints), but to *let the body transition solve all that.*
Looked up that David Duval & Charlie Rymer video... pretty neat. 👍
@@Kridian01 thanks, I'll do the same
Appreciate it my friend!
Eric of all your instructors you have interviewed Mike has really helped me think about the swing much better. The video on the hip movement was a game changer and this one too! Great work man.
Appreciate the kind words, David! Mike is great! Glad to hear that!
@@CogornoGolf the hip video is gold... I am just catching up to the freedom of movement that the hip motion allows. my swing speed is up over 10%! the ball is travelling a full club further with less effort... so grateful
Very helpful and insightful instructions from Mike. Really appreciate you for him on your show.
Thanks, Rashid! You got it my friend...Mike is great!
Mike Malaska can really talk forever, but everything he say is so good, its like listening to poetry.
He's great! GREAT story teller!
@@CogornoGolf If I took a lesson from him I might record it to not let any information get away. I mean youre used to speak in videos and do so very well, but this guy didnt give you much chance haha
Loving this series with Mike
Thanks, Brian! Lots of fun for us....hopefully we get to do more sometime soon!
Two of my favorite instructors.....!!
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Excellent video! Best explanation of Mike's "tipping" the club feel.
Thanks, Eddie!
Wow, the best Shallow club tip i ever get. Thank you. Cheers.
Our pleasure! Thanks for watching!
Wow, I’ve been fighting that force past 20 years. Awesome video. Covid 19 no more golf lesson. This is an essential public service for all the quarantine golfers.
Thanks-hope it helps!
Just love how the both of you break it down to a feeling that each individual golfer has to develop to their swing. it's great to know as much about the golf swing but not over analyze it. KISS method. I loved Payne Stewart's swing. soooo smooth!
Thanks, Joseph!
Eric! Mike Rules right! His videos have helped as well. In fact, I think this is the most important video I have ever seen.
Awesome-love it Brett! He's great!
This video changed my whole golf life.
I’ve actually been wondering why we all like non pro golfers have to have the same movements against the pros having all those different moves such as DJ and Kaepka.
This video is amazing and it proved that I should follow what I feel more based on the basic necessary movements in golf! Thank you!!
Our pleasure my friend-glad to hear that!
Eureka ! Best explanation of weight transfer I have seen yet. Work the Step Drill in at the range and u will see the difference. A little uncomfortable at first, but same physics as throwing a baseball.
Thanks, Anthony! Mike it great!!
This is pure gold. Thanks
Mike is awesome!!
I view Malaska as the Zen teacher of the golf swing if there’s such a thing. Great video Eric.
Haha love it! He's awesome!
How bout leadbetter
Just found this video and it's a game changer for me. Great lesson
Thanks, Gary! Glad to hear that!
Great job Eric. More Malaska.
Thanks, Leo! We hope so....
you two communicate so well, your best skill
Appreciate it, Chad!
Good video. Listen to Mike about practicing static positions or slo mo practice (11:50 & 15:10). My 2 cents is until you can learn to allow tension free shoulders, arms and wrists you will be fishing for feels. With tension your feel will be different every day or possibly every swing. Do you feel more tension with golf swing than you do with a tennis racket , throwing a ball, or BB bat? Old saying "give up control to gain control" works in golf, business and life.
Thanks!
Love what you are saying about tension, it is everything, get rid of it and you can become a scratch player in no time.
That practice swing. Love it. Exaggerated. But so much stronger angles. Then in the real swing it’s right on point
Yessir!
Awesome video. The discussion of forces is super helpful.
Thanks, Tom!
Feel VS. real is such an important thing to get your head around. Just look at Moe Norman posing in the positions that he felt he was in, clubface pointing behind him, right knee almost on the ground. Jeff Ritter said he feels like he swings like Furyk, but in reality he’s exactly on plane up and down
100% Feel and real and RECORDING yourself non negotiable to me
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Feel vs real is def something i will be more aware off! Another great lesson with Eric og Mike! Thanx!
You got it my friend! No doubt.....have to record yourself consistently to keep on top of it!
great video i could listen to mike and you all day.....from italy..ciao
Thank you my friend! Hope you are well!
👏👏👏you guys are like Robert Parker and James Suckling. The best of the best. This is Gold!!!
Thank you :)
Great lesson on sequencing. Thank you!!!
Our pleasure! Thanks for being with us!
I’ve been following Mike for a couple of years now his method of teaching is very easy to understand, also Eric I just subscribed to your channel great collaboration!!👍
Appreciate it my friend!
Eric excellent video. My Challenges are 1. Not bending my left arm on the backswing leads to chicken wing on follow through 2. Finding the fight Rhythm & Tempo to accomplish what you and Mike demonstrated. Can’t wait for your next session with Mike.
Thanks John! Appreciate the kind words.
Check out www.cogornogolf.com so I can see a video of your swing....we can fix those things no problem but I have to see your swing
I've been looking forward to this conversation. Specifically because I can't shallow to save my life, and I follow both of you.
Hope you get it sorted my friend! If not check out www.cogornogolf.com so I can see your swing and help!
Blended Motion at it's finest. Great stuff. Winner!
Thanks, Dave!
The first half of the video Mike teaches and sounds exactly like Golfletics! The difference I see is at 12:26 where Mike describes the problem of getting too inside and under because of some lateral slide and too much tilt Mike teaches to overcome it with his tipping feel while Milo would generally fix the body pivot issue that caused the club to get under! Cool video 👍
I believe Milo with Mike before Golfletics.
6string - Dave Milo quit playing in 2008 and started teaching full time in 2009 at my home course in Utah. I started working with him back then and his ideas are generally unchanged with a few changes to how he teaches setup. Not sure when he started working under Malaska but I know he wasn’t permitted to market himself during that time which is why he only recently has a footprint online.
@@ablgolfmom6211 I've watched some of Milo's instruction and learned some very good things.
Both great guys and coaches!
Thank you so much for partnering with Mike on this. I wish Clay Ballard would abide by these concepts.
Our pleasure!
Clay Ballard is a brilliant teacher.
OMG! This was even better than I'd hoped for! Thanks for taking the time to really clarify this Eric and Mike. It's so hard to talk about feels 'in motion' yet sooo valuable and you guys did a great job here. I spent some time with the shaft tipping Malaska move/feel and, though this is probably just my own feel, I'm sharing incase it works for anyone else.
So my initial misunderstanding of the 'malaska move', based on what it looks like visually made be pull the hands down at first so I got steep which was really not good. However, once I worked out how to get that shaft tipping feeling/movement without yanking on the shaft I started shallowing out the shaft big time! For me, if I can tip the shaft subtly and feel almost like the hands and club stay high like they're not going down to the ball my body reacts by getting lower, using the ground more, rotating more and a lot of good things happen as a by-product. For me, if I feel like I'm consciously lowering anything which logically aligns with the usual shallowing advice of dropping hands club behind - i get nowhere. In contrast, feeling Mike's move subtly like the club stays 'up' ironically gets the shaft to drop because, feeling a little higher makes my body wan't to move more dynamically to get to the ball. Don't know if this makes sense to anyone but me but might help someone.
Anyway I think what is gold here is the acknowledgment that a description of what is happening does not necessarily correlate to the feel, which in my case is exactly right. Literally feels like the polar opposite.
Thanks for a great video Eric!
Thanks, Christian! Appreciate the kind words my friend and sharing some of your journey!
Christian Traynor wow your feel is exactly what Golfletics says in his video shallow like a major champion. Cool you figured it out because in all the Malaska videos I’ve seen he says handle down head out while keeping body closed.
@@ablgolfmom6211 Hey I checked out the vid. Was a really good one! I'm quite short as well so watching milo really helps me. What also helped me was a really good youtuber James Wiltshire golfer and longdriver. He is a PT so explains body movements in a way i find easy to understand having myself done a lot of fitness/different workouts for sports/movement before.He left me a comment about how simply squatting into the ground helps shallow in itself, which helped me feel it a lot too. Check him out. Play well!
@@@CogornoGolf My pleasure. Love the channel!
Great stuff from two excellent teachers
Thanks, Anthony!
This wrist with the stick is such an awesome theory. Like a fastball for power and curveball no power. Also the steep backswing feel to shallow enough to stay on plane is awesome. Ive tried it and have alot more power
Nice! Thanks for watching Michael!
Awesome video..... learned a lot.... lightbulb went on
Thanks! Mike is great!
I am trying to make this work for me. It is hard to know if I am getting it right because everything happens so fast. I think I am getting there when I think: light grip, loose shoulders and arms, pause or wait at top and then speed when you need it not before. If I try to do anything like pulling down or standing up the shaft I am into correcting things late and often leave the face way open. Old dog and new tricks. But I do think Mikes approach can lead to better face control and being more accurate. So I continue on in my garage until golf resumes. Thanks great video
Thanks for the message and hope you get it sorted, Ronald!
We all struggle with this:
"I am trying to make this work for me. It is hard to know if I am getting it right because everything happens so fast."
-Best to be recording yourself with video and working with a coach to work through it!
Two geniuses !!! Great video !!! 👍👍👍
Appreciate it, James!
I can't believe this info is free...wow
Hope it helps!
Really!!!! This was INCREDIBLE wisdom... no reason not to get better wow
@@CogornoGolf these are really informative and entertaining. Thanks for posting 👍
WOW !!!! Eric what a critical insightful lesson Quadruple AAA. DAMN excellent
Thank you!!
I started working on this move because I’ve been a handle drag flipper for my whole career. I was plagued with the shanks and pushes after a back injury and age took some flexibility away. I was a scratch player and golf coach for forty years. This is the first time I’ve really understood why I was having troubles. I started working on this and suddenly my soft draw to straight was back. I got the feeling that my shoulders were closed longer and that I wasn’t chasing contact.
Love to hear that, Mitch! Glad to hear you're back on track and heading in the right direction!
Great video. It’s all there and really helps to blend two very trusted instructions. Thank you!!
Appreciate it, Kevin!
Great conversation. Thank you. Regarding the transition move, I understand in tennis etc your arms move back and at the same time your weight moves forward. However, how you really do this motion in golf is not clear to me. Any comments appreciated.
Hey!
Here is some more info on the transition for you:
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@@CogornoGolf Thank you Eric.I will try these drills. What I see again and again is: weight pressure to the leading foot is a must before anything else.
fantastic Eric and Mike
Thank you!
gorgeous video~it reminds me how you feel might not be how you really swing
Thank you!
Excellent video. It is fun watching two great teachers talk golf instruction. Did not know that you "dabbled" in tennis, I imagine you were pretty good!!!
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Lol you like that?!?!
I didn't feel like telling him that I was world class back in high school despite the doubts of my good friend Jack. Megan would have been in trouble...
I like that he never tells two students the same thing, because everyone is different. Thats what I've been looking for in a local coach. Work with my tendencies and feels, not Joe Shmoe's.
Hope you find someone you work well with!
Bro... this video... made so much sense to me! Thank you so much!
You got it my friend!
No shit probably best video so far,, this helps so many golfers ty guys so much !!! As you can guess I'm steep ,,awesome!!!
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Good video! Great point about how the forces create those ideal positions.
Thanks, Gabriel!
Great instruction. Thank you. Dom
Thanks, Dom!
Exquisite! Malaska awesome !!
Yes he is! Thank you👊
Beautiful discourse.
Thanks, Mark!
Eric, Looking at Tom Watson’s swing, to me his swing path looks like what Mike is explaining with respect the Joe Nichols move. Steep then transitioning to a flat area then back to steep.
Yep!
Best lesson ever.
Thanks man!
wow, Stand it up, level it out . amazing feel.
Awesome!
Excellent video, thanks a lot!
Our pleasure!
15:08-15:45 BLEW MY WHOLE MIND!!!
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Still got 7 minutes to go and it’s just incredible. His FEELS are what I have felt naturally since I was a kid. When you try to FORCE SHALLOWING, go play another sport because it will drive you insane. Shallowing is natural.TIP IT
15:00 makes so much sense, no one is trying to flip it, they automatically flip it because there trying so hard not too so they get caught behind their body and automatically flip the wrists to catch up. if you try and feel the flip you'll actually end up flipping late because it's your focus and you'll react late as apposed to it being subconscious.
Mike is great!
Liked the way how Eric smoothened things out at the end ,,across vs laid off
Thanks for watching my friend!
Eric, I have seen all your videos with Mike, and they are absolutely fantastic. „We are an art“🏌️🏌️Could both of you do a video on the philosophy of golf? No teaching, just talking - it would be a great thing during the lockdown (I am writing from Germany and we are still in there). Many thanks for all the great stuff👍
Appreciate the kind words my friend! Thats a good idea...I dont think we will end up getting that done during current time frame but maybe in the future!
Wow another great video with you and Mike.!
The one thing needs to explain is if the club head automatically by force start to shallow out..then how can you explain casting the club..which I think I do...please help.thanks
Thanks!
Casting usually due to clubface to open.....its a way to square the face
The other reason could be too steep a downswing and it acts to shallow the clubhead
I would have to see your swing to say for sure....thats easy to fix if I know WHY you're doing it!
Check out www.cogornogolf.com so I can see your swing and answer your questions more specific to you....you have had some good questions on various videos!
Pure gold!
Thank you Arthur!