Malaska Golf // Shallowing in Transition - Debate: How to Get The Golf Club in Position
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- Опубликовано: 15 май 2020
- Earlier this spring, Eric Cogorno came out to Superstition Mountain for the afternoon. We covered several topics, but this one seems to get the most debate. The question is, "How do you get your club in the correct position in your down swing?" There's a lot of talk about shallowing the club and rotating through the ball. For those who know my teaching, you know that I have a little different perspective on the natural forces at play and how you redirect the momentum of the golf club as you transition in your down swing.
We covered a lot of ground on this one.
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This is the greatest 15 minute golf instruction video I’ve ever seen
Good grief, someone who actually listens to Mike and doesn’t feel he has to be constantly interrupting to make HIS presence felt. Well done Eric, great video as always Mike.
Wonder who else you could be talking about… not a 20 minute video about putting
Thanks for actually saying what I was feeling.
Completely agreed, esp when he mike was dropping some major knowledge about mental approach
🤣 does his name and channel start w- B?
@@Baddmnkey1 🤣🤣🤣
He's Mike to teach him and still looks like a 36hcp player🤣
I think this whole video is pure gold. Watched like 50x.
Today Aug25th at driving range, finally had eureka moment of lower body imagining this video. As soon as take away occurs, I'm moving force to the left leg femur region. When I'm almost completing back swing (with my right hip out of the way) I hit the left leg gas pedal and 👉push back (feel my left hip out of the way ) and my arms and hands goes down and club head out.
Eureka! It was the first time I felt lower body and the upperbody combined. And it was repeatable! Hit like 90balls with couples of misses only.
Before today, I was hitting more focused on upperbody. Finally, now I figured out the complete movement and you can feel the club head speed and pure solid impact, the sound is amazingly different.
Took me like 50days to understand the complete Malaska move to hit EFFORTLESSLY Pw 150-155yrd bombs, 45°flying high balls with that punch like the pro's.
Mr Malaska is by far the best teacher. I've watched pretty much all of his videos including the ones at the Be Better golf channel.
Thank you sir. You changed my game.
Thanks for having us out, Mike! Great day....hope some of this helps everyone play better!
This is not right. This is like mixing DC with Marvel Comics. Cogorno is from Pennsylvania, and Malaska is in Arizona, then all of a sudden they're together? That transition move is the key but its hard to master. I think he is absolutely right that your swing with your arms begins at position 2, and your turn is what squares the club face. Monte Schoenblum says roughly the same thing. I have a really hard time coordinating the rotation of the hips, with movement of the upper body. This is the first video I saw that illustrated what I was thinking which was I was pulling everything left on mid to short irons. If your pivot of your hips pulls your upper body too you swill over the top, It seems to me the arms have to drop down to position 2 to avoid swing over the top. Interested in your thoughts.
Really appreciate the full attention you give to mike, shows a lot of respect and class.
Interesting. Thing is I have to adopt the extreme motion that Duval does but in reverse! In other words if I feel like I’m trying to go under plane I might almost shallow it enough. The second half of this video applies generally to good players - definitely not people like me. Might need to make this clearer? (Btw I have been working on Leadbetter A Swing drills - which is almost the opposite of the Duval drill)
@@gregglister8074 Most Low handicappers have the reverse problem of most high handicappers. Meaning that the low handicapper fights getting the club too far under whereas the high handicapper fights the club being too far over (Over the Top). Not even that if you play many other sports growing up like Mike suggested with tennis and baseball you already have the "Early" transition down (Opposing forces) working in your favor. This is one of the best videos I've seen talking about momentum or forces while a swing is in motion. ALL of us can master these correct positions in slow motion, its when the body and arms start moving is where its difficult and it works as opposite feels.
Looking forward to the next time the two of you work together 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Mr. Malaska, I recently started playing again after a 25 year hiatus to due military service and raising kids. I have spent countless hours watching instructional videos trying to improve my game with mostly negative results. I was close to quitting again, but then I found your no nonsense approach to golf instruction. Thank you for "allowing" me to feel like an athlete again and not a robot. I love your candor. I wish I knew you back in the day. Thanks for being awesome.
Thank you for your service, sir. Hope you are well. 🇺🇸
I hope the OP is enjoying the hell out of a great game.
Thanks for your service !
So, I have been taking lessons, watching vids, playing golf since I was a teenager. THIS, this video has helped me strike the ball better than anything. What was said around the 9:00 mark is a game-changer for me! Wow, I took that to the range today and I was hitting all irons, including 4i flush!
this is by far the most helpful video that has ever been on the internet in terms of golf knowledge and application
If you have 15 bucks to spare for a month or two. The content on his website is absolute gold.
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I agree. Absolutely. I never heard the downswing explained like this. Must start downswing early.
yes...... this fixed SEVERAL misconceptions
From 7:12 on, I felt like this vid was speaking directly to me.
Took this idea to the range today and found a new game called “Consistent Compression”.
Thank you, fellas!
Thanks Mike! I’m 58 and have improved my game so much with your videos. Breaking 80 is a milestone for me. :)
70 years old, at 45 I was a plus 4 - this is the best instruction I have ever seen in explaining, more importantly teaching golf as a sport relating to other sports. Thank you for all you do for the game. Now just get the pros to play faster and the game will grow.
This was a revelation for me. I’ve been working on being more natural in my movements. But my chronically late transition literally handcuffs my swing into off-balance manipulation rather than swinging. Brilliant video
After searching for "right elbow get stuck in the back swing" and got me here, OMG, this is going to change my entire concept of transition. Thank you Mike.
This is one of the coolest videos I have seen for explaining something that seems so simple, but isn't. Well done!
Every good teacher is an even better student. Cogono gives a perfect example of this.
It’s called the concept of conservation of momentum. You need to stay centered; if something goes back something must go forward. Love ya Mike!
Mike ‘The Enigma Machine’ Malaska, I feel enlightened, thank you!
Great as usual, Mike. Good stuff to work on. Love showing the other athletic moves and how it relates to golf. Just needed this info years ago.
I wish I could spend a day working with Mike, or maybe a week. This guy is a genius.
This was an omg moment. Been following Mike now for a few months and how he describes the feeelings in the downswing made some much sense to me. Finally managed to get out and play this week for the first time with the new feelings and wow I have never hit the ball so sweetly and from a more "in to out" swing path rather than "out to in". Keep up the good work Mike
Great vid. Love seeing the collaboration with Eric!
Mike, gotta say I am soooooo happy to see videos from you in 2020. This one was pure gold. Stay+/Test-.
Terrific. Tail end of this video is the best explanation of feel versus real I've ever seen. Also provides a ton more clarity on the move Mike is sharing in his other videos.
From Portugal
Hi Mike,
You are undoubtedly the first and the best golf teacher I have ever known who explains everything in a comprehensible way.
Thank you very much. You deserve millions of likes.
Best golf video I have seen in ages, thanks Mike.
I have watched this video several times. It is loaded with information. Thanks so much for sharing your wealth of knowledge.
Videos with you and Eric are absolute must watch for any golfer of any skill level. Kudos Mark.
Obi Wan I love this, it’s like listening to Einstein and Hawkings explain the intricacies of the golf swing so that a grammar school student can understand! Thanks for all the great information!
Awesome video! I tried this yesterday and I was able to hit every fairway. I played today and same results. Shot 88 and my average round is 94. Thanks for a lesson that works.
Awesome video & awesome explanations. This makes so much sense to me. Thank you, Mike!!
Wow that was so good. Cleared up my confusion immediately. Thanks Mike
Absolutely Brilliant!
Thanks Mike, I've tried it and it works and I really enjoyed it.
Today I played and I felt like the club was coming down vertical. It wasnt at all but that was the feeling i 'did'. Wasnt stuck behind all day and hit the ball 'flush'. Best feeling ever! Thanks so much Mike.
Mike,
Took me a while to understand your meaning..(.i'm a slow learner) but today i managed to get it, all i can say is BRILLIANT...Well done and thank you Mike.
MM is such a great coach, and his explanations of things that are oftentimes overlooked can be invaluable. This idea of getting a 'feel' (even if it 'feels' incorrect) that puts you into a good position is priceless. As Mike says, (and I've had numerous coaches teach this) if you practice getting into the 'correct' positions, because there's no real forces at work you will be ingraining the wrong 'feels' and 'you're dead' because, then you'll be frustrated as all your practice comes to nought. So practicing a 'feel' that gets you into the correct position is critical, because you can then ingrain this 'feel' knowing that is what you need to feel to get it right. A bit of a head-scratcher at first, but right in the end. Great video Mike and Eric.
Love the explanation of the early transition
Your explanation and teaching of * feels vs what is happening * is fantastic - I wish I had understood this earlier - but it^s never to late to learn. Thank U so much for this video
Awesome instruction! Helped me a lot! Thx! Mike!!!
Brilliant work, all!
Sharp insights. Great instruction!
A Big Thank You....for this Eye - Opener....Suddenly a golfswing is, in fact , really easy.
This is so true ... I start my back swing and right away my left knee start to ben a little bit so I can put some sort of force so from the end of my backswing I am ready to throw. .... Thx guys
And it works...totally changed my swing feeling.
Once you get used to its an effortless swing...if you want. You can also hammer it...but the consistency of clean hits is something I never experienced before.
The man is a genius.
I agree. Mike is being to hard on himself when he says he isn't that smart. Einstein said the truest sign of intelligence, is the ability to explain a complex topic in terms every one can understand. In this regard, Mike absolutely is a genius. His insight into the golf swing has not only changed my perception, but also improved my game.
@@poopjeans1135 Starting downswing early. Yup.
Excellent thanks entertaining to watch Mike from the UK
So many youtube "coaches" talk about flattening the shaft in the downswing. The more I practice the worse my ball striking gets. Your video is about Newton's "Action and Reaction" law. It's "static" vs. "dynamic". It makes so much sense to me. Thank you so much!!!
More golf gold, Mike and Eric are on a roll at the moment, I always use the analogy of a cowboy using a whip for the downswing feel, Great Video
The 2 best teachers right here!
I tried a more vertical back swing and it worked for me. I also subscribe to Eric's site, He simplifies his instruction as you do. Thank you!
Your teaching is a God send to me!!!
An important part of the forward transition is a proper hip turn in the back swing. Mike has a really good video on a back swing hip turn. If can master this turn, the transition is soo much easier.
fantastic ...advice and explanation...thankyou
Brilliantly explained and easy to understand
Darn, that was an excellent lesson.
This is amazing - real & feel is so different
Mike is so frickin’ good. Unbelievable.
vieux golfeur ........... c'est le meilleur mouvement que j'ai jamais vu ......et après essais pour moi ça marche vraiment ...........merci Monsieur !!!!
This lesson is UNBELIEVABLY amazing...I'm stunned here, just wow.
for sure - he has kinda a know-it-all talk down to you style, which I find a tad abrasive, but you can not argue with the knowledge and logic. the guy just drops truth bombs that aren't just copies of the same old garbage you see in every swing video
Love that stuff very feel oriented, will work on that! Great
Best lesson to promote understanding of the golf swing.
Thanks Mike this is very helpful
Great golf teacher.
Such a good explanation
Awesome lesson! I can easily start my lower body first when it comes to tennis, baseball bat, and throwing a ball, but for the life of me doing it in my golf swing is a struggle. More in that would be great!
Ha ha. Just figured it out myself😀
Fantastic Mile. Been struggling for years to gwt out from under the plane. Can hit the spot with no spèed but straight under when gas added. Gotta feel steep to get sweet is my new thought!
Can’t wait to go and do this on the range. It is so logical though it has never ever been told to me. Ever...
UPDATE: just tried it and it is gold. I didn’t think too much of the motion itself just that its okay to start going into your front leg as soon as the club is taken back. Bend the frontknee a bit for some extra punch and rocksolid contact and it feels so effeortless. Thank you!
The penny finally dropped. I have struggled with over-the-top, fat, pulls for a long time. I believed that it was mainly caused by my sequencing but could not seem to get things coordinated. I've watched almost every golf video out there and tried everything. The more I tried, the more rigid I got and further away from that effortless swing I've dreamed about. The simple, clear, concise explanation that the transition starts AT THE BEGINNING of the backswing was a true light-bulb moment. Within a few swings my swing path went from 5 to 7 degrees Out to -1 to 2 degrees from the inside. My low point control improved dramatically and I am able to get the same club head speed with much less effort.
I know I've seen the baseball, tennis racket, ..... explanation from a lot of instructors but this time, by re-telling the quiz about when golfers think the forward movement starts, versus when it should start it finally sunk in.
Now on to putting.
You only “think” you know until you watch Mike’s videos. Well maybe that was just me.......... thanks for sharing great content
THE greatest golf coach.
That's a funny exchange right at the end of the video when you talk about positions. I've had some highly rated instructors in the past. I am/was a good player. This instructor would have me in slow motion hit all of these positions in a swing. There were like 14 positions. We'd be in a lesson, and he'd say "Go to position 8!". I couldn't remember exactly where that was.
Anyway, to make a long story just a little bit longer, once I started watching your videos, that allowed me to understand the forces involved. I mentioned to an instructor once "Swinging a club is trying to keep your balance and not falling over. Huge forces in that clubhead at distance from the grip.
Mike is an amazing teacher
I was already a pretty good ball striker but this is game changing information.
Good instructions, you guys should do a golf video next!! Thanks.
Absolutely outstanding vid. So much wisdom here. Thank you, Mike.
Forces instead of positions, absolutely. When I stopped trying to get a certain position at the top of the backswing and instead feel the force of swinging on plane, and transitioning balance early as described here, I sent the ball with distance I had never seen before in decades of play. I’m 62.
13:40 So, so true. Its "the" golf secret...peroid. Golf is so easy if you feel this in your swing.
I implemented the David Duval feel he talked about on the range the past couple of days and...WOW!
I went from a flippy stuck inside swing hitting every shot but straight, to hitting piercing irons and bomb drives. I really think I gained 5-10 yards on my irons
This explains why Jack's club is vertical at the top of his1992 back swing (10:30). Thank you from Goodyear.
Good stuff.
EXCELLENT!!!
Great information Mike and Eric. I feel like you were addressing a predominant hook swing that suddenly gets it too steep. My steep swing is due to my hip moving forward (towards the ball position). I am tall, and I cannot get my hips to stay back. I have tried everything (chair behind me etc). I just can't find that "feeling". Would love to see your take on this in a future video. I will look at a video noted below by Mike Rose
I’m going to start a new app….thank you Mike 😀😀
When you own your golf swing, like Mike does, you know he's talking sense in his teaching of the swing.
This solved my golf swing.
I subscribe to Mike's online program and have learned from Eric as well. Nevertheless, the concept of taking the club back while starting to transition to the left side is lot more complicated than meets the eye in this video - no matter how well done it was. Transition (and shallowing) remains a complex subject that is hard to teach and grasp IMHO.....and made all the more difficult by trying to apply analogies from baseball, tennis and other sports. It sounds well and good when viewing on RUclips......then trying to execute "two opposing forces" is a different kettle of fish -- it just is.
Mikes comment about the right arm (not twisting it) and grip strength are huge factors in successful ballstriking.
Thanks!
MM is an amazing coach and teacher! Thanks Mike!
Oh my, Old Lion and New Lion, gentlemen, brilliant to watch you guys in action, really got the juices flowing, yeah Mike love your passion and drive. . . Eric keep asking the hard questions, you guys will leave the rest for dead.
Mike, your swing by feel through certain points of the swing is right on. As a hooker starting with your concepts I have had to add making the inside of the right palm move towards the target slightly ahead of the right forefinger near impact, this is for us hookers only. The face does square, but the toe has to be aligned with the heel at impact. The body will self align for the task. The inside of the right foot will be an ankle roll and the palm of the right hand will face the target at the top of the follow through.. These are not forced positions as you say, they are products of physics. Thanks again
Nice sensation Mike ,from indonesia 👍
I love watching you guys light up when you're describing "feels and reals." I get that same feeling when I'm teaching and a student gets it. The "a-ha moment!"
Its a subtle move so i think it needs a lot of practice to perfect. I'm getting there and cant wait for it to 'click'.
Brilliant
I am still working on it I think it is the best move in golf.even when I get it half way right I can hit my ball.
Same With a Bowling Ball also. Arm goes back - body goes forward. By the way - what a beautiful Driving Range...
Woww... good stuff. Back to the drawing board😫
13:28 "So when I make practice swings..." That's exactly how Justin Rose makes practice swings today!! Justin watches Mike Malaska channel to learn "The Malaska Move!" Guaranteed!
Awesome that's it awesome!!!! Ty ,,Eric's a great teacher check out his page!!! Ty Mike always the best full.of amazing knowledge!!
Hi mike. Could you do a video on how you teach impact using the impact bag. Roy in Canada. Thank you, love your videos
This makes great sense for under planers, but so many ams are steep in transition so this type of move would be counter productive.
Hi mike, i'm finding your videos really interested and have tried some of your swing thoughts. firstly when i tried the cocking of the club and turning back and through without uncocking i could really feel the weight of the club wanting to go in the opposite direction to the turn. Also when i tried tipping the club in the downswing not only did it appear to be on the correct plane but i noticed that i was no longer early extending (something i have always experienced). It was as though tipping the club head out automatically pushed my lead hip in the opposite direction. would love to know your thoughts on these points! big hello from England loving your content, one of the few consistent contents over the years with no trends! :-)
@3:33-3:48 is golden