Loved the scene when Dylan is recording the album Hwy 61 Revisited ...Al Kooper walks in desperately wanting in, but was told Mike Bloomfield was already selected for guitar. Determined, he sits down at the Hammond organ for Like a Rolling Stone and as they say ...the rest is history...it gave me chills. Any fan of Bob Dylan will certainly appreciate and enjoy this film!
Complete Unknown is an excellant film. It's more the story of a tremendous musical event than a biopic. The conflict is the courage of an artist willing to challenge his audience to accept his evolving direction.
There is a lot of tension build-up while Dylan is feeling pressure/figuring things out leading to the pivotal scene. Between him and the two amazing women in his life and Seeger. It was visceral for me. My husband (who isn't a fan of Dylan's music, but didn't complain about it cause he knows it's important to me). He just didn't understand the point of the movie. I really think this is a movie for true fans of Dylan and the history.
I’m part of that generation and started playing because of the Vanguard recordings of Mississippi John Hurt. No movie can really capture the sociology or politics of the time, but I suspect this will be a great walk down memory lane for us, and a great introduction to music history to people under 30 who may be curious as to where this stuff all came from.
Bob Dylan.....hippest dude on the planet for over 60 years. Really is extremely difficult to fathom how to make a film about this American Icon loved and one who meant so much to so many for DECADES. However, I am greatly looking forward to seeing the film tomorrow evening .
Just saw the film New Year's Eve and loved all 140 minutes of it. A minor disappointment for me was the decision to virtually ignore the impact The Beatles would have had on these characters in the 1964-65 time period depicted in the latter half of the film (It's pretty common knowledge, after all, that Dylan introduced The Fab Four to marijuana when he first met them in August of 1964). My other quibble is something that can't be fixed. In these period films every car on the street looks like it just came off the showroom floor, because the owners of these vintage beauties aren't going to let their perfect paint jobs be messed with. That said, I hope "Complete Unknown" gets a ton of nominations this awards season.
Yeah, they really kept the story intimate…very little mention of other artists (like the Beatles)….even his fame was difficult to calculate, because it’s all from his perspective. Thanks!
I saw the film I have been a Dylan fan for far more years than I wish to mention I thought the film was an excellent portrayal of Dylans early years both acting and scenery came together as thoroughly enjoyable 5 stars..I appreciated the commentary
It’s as if IM NOT THERE never existed but hey that’s Hollywood and that’s the “Music Industry”! Cate Blanchette kicks butt as 1965-1967 Dylan(I’m Not There)
Looking forward to seeing this movie. Unlike so many of his generation Bob starred clear of the Woodstock and Laurel Canyon Vibe. He was just too clued in to follow other people’s notion of being hip.
Good review. It’s hard for me to really judge the movie. I am Dylan, his music is in me deeply. That stuff is so hard to understand, it stays in your mind for years, it’s like an old love affair. I think this will win best picture because a lot of of the people who are voting Have grown up with this music in their gut. As far as the obstacle, good point. But that is a formulaic way of looking at it. There are other things that propel a movie, the music propels this one, but you could also say it’s ragged to riches, and it’s a coming-of-age movie, and there’s the arc of weather to play electricat the folk Fest. There’s a lot of tension. Good review though!
I agree - my expectation was too formulaic, which is why I think (after dwelling on it) the movie is better for NOT going the expected direction. However, leaving the theater - I had mixed feelings. Agreed, the music absolutely drives the film.
I actually think there were a few conflicts in the film. One is with both "Sylvie" (Suze) and Joan partly because of his inability to really share himself with them and his growing fame. The second is trying to come to terms with his growing fame. And the third is his conflict with the expectations of him, especially in terms of his music (and though not emphasized--his involvement with social causes). I'm also not sure about what the point was about Dylan being an unrelatable character because he resisted singing his most popular songs. Does this reviewer not know anything about Dylan? Has he never watched interviews with him? I'm not sure Dylan means to be relatable. I would actually give the film a 5. The performances were great. The film also captures the essence of both the time and of Dylan.
When you say your wife hates Dylan, does that include his songwriting when his material is covered by other artist. So does she also hate his songwriting style?
I live in Japan and I won't be able to see this film until March. In general I don't like biopics because I think they almost always are caricatures or imitations of real people and it usually falls flat for me. There are some exceptions for me. Jamie Fox as Ray Charles and Coal Miner's Daughter mainly because Sissy Spacek doesn't resemble Loretta Lynn so it never felt like that and the performances of her and Tommy Lee Jones were off the charts great. Also kind of a hot take but Lady Sings the Blues starring Diana Ross as Billie Holiday because again, she doesn't look like Lady Day. She didn't try to be a caricature of Billie Holiday and she sang the songs well in her own voice. The Audra Mcdonald Billie Holiday pic really bothered me because she portrayed a one-sided caricature of only the addiction with none of Billie's sweetness. I thought it was insulting to the memory of one of my very favorite artists though it was critically acclaimed. I'll see this because I have been a huge Dylan fan since the early seventies and also of Tim. My wife isn't all that into Dylan but she gets that he sings to make you feel something and it's not supposed to be pretty--with the notable exception of the Nashville Skyline album and sometimes one other song on some albums. I'll say this. Anyone who thinks he can't sing should listen to One More Cup of Coffee from Desire. That's not easy and he nails it. My wife always says, "How many takes did he need to do that?" LOL But she's interested in seeing this as well.
I feel the same way about most biopics, and this one has couple moments that still don't work for me, but the music is so good that I got swept away by most of the movie. Thanks for watching my review all the way over there is Japan.
I've felt disparagingly about this movie based on trailers, but your review intrigues me and makes me want to watch in and give it a chance. Thank you for the excellently expressed review.
Seeing this movie at 11:15am today. Then eat leftovers from yesterday. So no popcorn or coke. Not going to pay $23+ for a combo. Movie is discounted 25% so just a tad over $5 to see this movie.
You have the same approach to watching movies as I do. I don't need the extra stuff...just distracts from my reason for being there - to watch the movie.
I can see a Will Farrell/John C O'Reilly spoof. Will could play a young Bob Dylan, yeah he's too old but that could be part of the joke. Anyway, I'll see that version.
You are right, the drama here is there is no real interesting conflict. The conflicts are not interesting, it is just a moody guy. The movie is much ado about nothing. The drama in the movie is just a guy who behaves unnecessarily poorly, especially toward a festival promoter, a girlfriend, and a girl singer and an old mentor folk singer. Does Chalamet deserve an Oscar? Yes, because if you are familiar with Dylan, he does well portraying him.
Yes. Leaving the theater, this was my biggest issue, BUT as time went by I started to appreciate how unique he was to stand so strong for his own thoughts. It's a difficult balancing act for the filmmakers.
Dylan plugging In an electric guitar and changing the course of rock music is a much to do about nothing. Got it. Yes this movie is for Dylan fans not haters
Good review. It’s hard for me to really judge the movie. I am Dylan, his music is in me deeply. That stuff is so hard to understand, it stays in your mind for years, it’s like an old love affair. I think this will win best picture because a lot of of the people who are voting Have grown up with this music in their gut. As far as the obstacle, good point. But that is a formulaic way of looking at it. There are other things that propel a movie, the music propels this one, but you could also say it’s ragged to riches, and it’s a coming-of-age movie, and there’s the arc of weather to play electricat the folk Fest. There’s a lot of tension. Good review though!
If Dylan doesn't "feel like a real person" and if, "at times, Chalamet doesn't either" I'd call that good acting.
Touché
Loved the scene when Dylan is recording the album Hwy 61 Revisited ...Al Kooper walks in desperately wanting in, but was told Mike Bloomfield was already selected for guitar. Determined, he sits down at the Hammond organ for Like a Rolling Stone and as they say ...the rest is history...it gave me chills.
Any fan of Bob Dylan will certainly appreciate and enjoy this film!
The shot of Chalamet's reaction to the keys MAY be my favorite shot in the whole film
Complete Unknown is an excellant film. It's more the story of a tremendous musical event than a biopic. The conflict is the courage of an artist willing to challenge his audience to accept his evolving direction.
Yep, I think you nailed it.
@@michaelcooley66 “No direction home” Same song, different line.
5 stars for me. The conflict is there. It's about trying being true to yourself and not being what others expect.
Yeah, I think you're right...but it isn't obvious. It's not like he was being asked to play someone else's music, but he was growing out of his own.
There is a lot of tension build-up while Dylan is feeling pressure/figuring things out leading to the pivotal scene. Between him and the two amazing women in his life and Seeger. It was visceral for me.
My husband (who isn't a fan of Dylan's music, but didn't complain about it cause he knows it's important to me). He just didn't understand the point of the movie.
I really think this is a movie for true fans of Dylan and the history.
I think you're right
I’m part of that generation and started playing because of the Vanguard recordings of Mississippi John Hurt. No movie can really capture the sociology or politics of the time, but I suspect this will be a great walk down memory lane for us, and a great introduction to music history to people under 30 who may be curious as to where this stuff all came from.
I think you're right. My hope is that the film DOES introduce a lot of people his music
Couldn't of said it any better!
Chalamet is a top contender for Oscar best actor! He was transformative in his performance!
I think you are probably right
Bob Dylan.....hippest dude on the planet for over 60 years. Really is extremely difficult to fathom how to make a film about this American Icon loved and one who meant so much to so many for DECADES. However, I am greatly looking forward to seeing the film tomorrow evening .
I think you're right. I'll be interested to hear your opinion once you see it.
My wife hates his recordings, not his songs. I love him. We both loved the movie.
I think my wife probably fits into that category as well...but she refuses to watch the film.
Just saw the film New Year's Eve and loved all 140 minutes of it. A minor disappointment for me was the decision to virtually ignore the impact The Beatles would have had on these characters in the 1964-65 time period depicted in the latter half of the film (It's pretty common knowledge, after all, that Dylan introduced The Fab Four to marijuana when he first met them in August of 1964). My other quibble is something that can't be fixed. In these period films every car on the street looks like it just came off the showroom floor, because the owners of these vintage beauties aren't going to let their perfect paint jobs be messed with. That said, I hope "Complete Unknown" gets a ton of nominations this awards season.
Yeah, they really kept the story intimate…very little mention of other artists (like the Beatles)….even his fame was difficult to calculate, because it’s all from his perspective. Thanks!
I wish they’d make a movie called “Blood on the tracks” and it was an over the top fictional account of that time period in his life and songwriting.
Is that a real thing?
@@CookieMovies78no but it could be a sequel I guess 😂
That could be amazing
I saw the film I have been a Dylan fan for far more years than I wish to mention
I thought the film was an excellent portrayal of Dylans early years both acting and scenery came together as thoroughly enjoyable 5 stars..I appreciated the commentary
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching
I liked his music and was raised when he was popular…..the movie was very good, saw it yesterday.
That's awesome! Did it see true to the time?
It’s as if IM NOT THERE never existed but hey that’s Hollywood and that’s the “Music Industry”! Cate Blanchette kicks butt as 1965-1967 Dylan(I’m Not There)
I honestly think very few people have seen that one
@ Todd Haynes is great and Dylan approved it!
Saw this last night. Great movie.
Awesome
what this movie "brings" to an old fan of Dylan? i wonder!
I think it's just a glimpse into the mind of an artist we appreciate
An outstanding performance by Chalamet. He’s going to get the Oscar nomination and odds are he’ll take the statue home.
He’ll be in the running. Coleman Domingo was voted in our NC Assocation
Looking forward to seeing this movie. Unlike so many of his generation Bob starred clear of the Woodstock and Laurel Canyon Vibe. He was just too clued in to follow other people’s notion of being hip.
Let me know what you think once you've seen it
Nope, loved it!
Yep, me too
Good review. It’s hard for me to really judge the movie. I am Dylan, his music is in me deeply. That stuff is so hard to understand, it stays in your mind for years, it’s like an old love affair. I think this will win best picture because a lot of of the people who are voting Have grown up with this music in their gut. As far as the obstacle, good point. But that is a formulaic way of looking at it. There are other things that propel a movie, the music propels this one, but you could also say it’s ragged to riches, and it’s a coming-of-age movie, and there’s the arc of weather to play electricat the folk Fest. There’s a lot of tension. Good review though!
I agree - my expectation was too formulaic, which is why I think (after dwelling on it) the movie is better for NOT going the expected direction. However, leaving the theater - I had mixed feelings. Agreed, the music absolutely drives the film.
I actually think there were a few conflicts in the film. One is with both "Sylvie" (Suze) and Joan partly because of his inability to really share himself with them and his growing fame. The second is trying to come to terms with his growing fame. And the third is his conflict with the expectations of him, especially in terms of his music (and though not emphasized--his involvement with social causes).
I'm also not sure about what the point was about Dylan being an unrelatable character because he resisted singing his most popular songs. Does this reviewer not know anything about Dylan? Has he never watched interviews with him? I'm not sure Dylan means to be relatable.
I would actually give the film a 5. The performances were great. The film also captures the essence of both the time and of Dylan.
When you say your wife hates Dylan, does that include his songwriting when his material is covered by other artist. So does she also hate his songwriting style?
It's more his singing. Actually, she kinda likes "old man" Bob Dylan - some of his music from the last 10 years or so.
Mine is the same. She enjoys his lyrics and her favorite song is Mississippi, definitely one of "old" Dylan's best lol
I live in Japan and I won't be able to see this film until March. In general I don't like biopics because I think they almost always are caricatures or imitations of real people and it usually falls flat for me. There are some exceptions for me. Jamie Fox as Ray Charles and Coal Miner's Daughter mainly because Sissy Spacek doesn't resemble Loretta Lynn so it never felt like that and the performances of her and Tommy Lee Jones were off the charts great. Also kind of a hot take but Lady Sings the Blues starring Diana Ross as Billie Holiday because again, she doesn't look like Lady Day. She didn't try to be a caricature of Billie Holiday and she sang the songs well in her own voice. The Audra Mcdonald Billie Holiday pic really bothered me because she portrayed a one-sided caricature of only the addiction with none of Billie's sweetness. I thought it was insulting to the memory of one of my very favorite artists though it was critically acclaimed. I'll see this because I have been a huge Dylan fan since the early seventies and also of Tim. My wife isn't all that into Dylan but she gets that he sings to make you feel something and it's not supposed to be pretty--with the notable exception of the Nashville Skyline album and sometimes one other song on some albums. I'll say this. Anyone who thinks he can't sing should listen to One More Cup of Coffee from Desire. That's not easy and he nails it. My wife always says, "How many takes did he need to do that?" LOL But she's interested in seeing this as well.
I feel the same way about most biopics, and this one has couple moments that still don't work for me, but the music is so good that I got swept away by most of the movie. Thanks for watching my review all the way over there is Japan.
I've felt disparagingly about this movie based on trailers, but your review intrigues me and makes me want to watch in and give it a chance. Thank you for the excellently expressed review.
My only concern is for people that dislike his music. This movie may be hard to swallow for those people.
@@CookieMovies78 understood. Thank you for your clarification.
We went last night. Loved the movie ❤
Awesome
Great review! I wasn't sure about this, but now I'm excited to see it.
If you enjoy Dylan, it will be hard to dislike
Just gotta hear the right song (Shelter From the Storm)
That’s a good one
Seeing this movie at 11:15am today. Then eat leftovers from yesterday. So no popcorn or coke. Not going to pay $23+ for a combo. Movie is discounted 25% so just a tad over $5 to see this movie.
You have the same approach to watching movies as I do. I don't need the extra stuff...just distracts from my reason for being there - to watch the movie.
I thought the movie was excellent
I'm with you
Appreciate this review!
Thanks for watching!
Saw the movie twice
I want to see it again too
THIS MOVIE WAS EXACTLY LIKE INSIDE llewyn DAVIS
I actually prefer this to Llewyn Davis...even though I love the Coen bros.
Hi Dave.
Merry Christmas
I'm not a huge Dylan fan but can appreciate his music. Timothy Chalamet is a phenomenal actor so I will Def be checking this out.
Let me know what you think after you watch it.
THE MOVIE WAS JUST OK. NOT THE BEST BIO PIC LA BAMBA AND THE DOORS WERE WAY WAY BETTER
Fair points
File for divorce
Ha! Should be gounds, correct?
met him and talked to him alone one day. He was nice but not warm and fuzzy. shook hands. probably normal. everyone else is crazy today.
That is so cool!
No physical resemblance at all. Not Dylan’s mannerisms. If you really lived Bob, skip the flick.
I'm too young to "really live Bob," so I'm flying a little blind...but I certainly like it a lot.
Typical Hollywood Hagiography.
I had to look up hagiography
I can see a Will Farrell/John C O'Reilly spoof. Will could play a young Bob Dylan, yeah he's too old but that could be part of the joke. Anyway, I'll see that version.
I mean, Walk Hard is pretty doggone close to that description
@CookieMovies78 I loved that movie 🍿. They could do a Dylan spoof
You are right, the drama here is there is no real interesting conflict. The conflicts are not interesting, it is just a moody guy. The movie is much ado about nothing. The drama in the movie is just a guy who behaves unnecessarily poorly, especially toward a festival promoter, a girlfriend, and a girl singer and an old mentor folk singer. Does Chalamet deserve an Oscar? Yes, because if you are familiar with Dylan, he does well portraying him.
Yes. Leaving the theater, this was my biggest issue, BUT as time went by I started to appreciate how unique he was to stand so strong for his own thoughts. It's a difficult balancing act for the filmmakers.
Dylan plugging In an electric guitar and changing the course of rock music is a much to do about nothing. Got it. Yes this movie is for Dylan fans not haters
I believe you are right
Good review. It’s hard for me to really judge the movie. I am Dylan, his music is in me deeply. That stuff is so hard to understand, it stays in your mind for years, it’s like an old love affair. I think this will win best picture because a lot of of the people who are voting Have grown up with this music in their gut. As far as the obstacle, good point. But that is a formulaic way of looking at it. There are other things that propel a movie, the music propels this one, but you could also say it’s ragged to riches, and it’s a coming-of-age movie, and there’s the arc of weather to play electricat the folk Fest. There’s a lot of tension. Good review though!
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