Never cared to see Walk Hard for the longest time; but thanks to Christy's continuous, influential praises, I rented the film and immediately bought it after watching. Thanks, Christy. 😁
Dylan’s hometown was just a town over from mine growing up-he’s definitely kind of a grounded local folk hero as opposed to Prince who we certainly claim and love but was a much more removed, ethereal sort of star than Dylan. I knew a girl who was absolutely OBSESSED with him which tbh is kind of weird when he’s a guy who just lives over that way lol. Timothee was just up here in Minneapolis hanging around the U of M campus to promote the film and seemed very normal and chill about it which is always nice.
Really good review! I was obsessed with Bob Dylan’s music in my 20s. I’m really looking forward to this. I always love music biopics. Ray, Walk the Line, The Doors.
Great discussion! I really enjoyed Tim's contributions about Dylan and the era and Christy's points about what this movie does as a musical biopic as we've had so many of them.
So glad you both loved it, I saw this film and I was in love with it from the very first frame. This is the best and most sophisticated music biopic we've had in recent years. Can't wait to see it again! ✌️
@@BreakfastAllDay the reception is a little mixed, but still better than most of the other music biopics we've had in the last few years. I agree with you, Christy that people are too harsh on Mangold. He's a very solid filmmaker, even if he's not breaking any new ground. He knows how to deliver.
@@davidfilmexpert No, it's because this one sucks, man. There's nothing unique or interesting about this; the concentrated timeframe does absolutely nothing to serve the film.
Pleasantly surprised to hear this came out well. Heard an ad during a podcast that did the whole “he’s like this generation’s Elvis!” and it made it sound like another ‘Bohemian Rhapsody’ Biopics work best when they limit themselves to a specific time frame instead of the cradle to grave route
As a giant music fan of a lot of genres over a lot of years, I think this will totally create new fans because many people really haven't "heard" the lyrics of these early songs....its considered more like oldy moldy or just humming along folk rock.
Society celebrates youth and beauty. One day would love to see a film depicting elderly Dylan. At 83 he's still out there performing. What motivates him ? Generally hate musical bio pics but look forward to this one. Wish more were like 1993's "Thirty Two short films about Glenn Gould". Brief vignettes that show slices of a persons life. If someone doesn't shout JUDAS in this film I'll be disappointed.
James Mangold is definitely a solid big studio writer-director (Walk the Line, 3.10 to Yuma, Logan, Ford v Ferrari, Cop Land, Heavy). We just had the Amy Winehouse, Whitney Houston & Bob Marley biopics with the Bob Dylan, Michael Jackson, Frank Sinatra, Bruce Springsteen & an entire Beatles Cinematic Universe all to come, that's a LOT of music biopics in a relatively short space of time!
Yeah, but this probably the best music biopic we're ever gonna get. I've seen it and it's by far better than those Amy Whinehouse, Whitney Houston and Bob Marley biopics and it's definitely way better than Elvis or Bohemian Rhapsody. This is worth your time! 👍
@@BreakfastAllDay I notice Tim gave the film an 8.5 score here, but his score on Metacritic is 80. That may be a small discrepancy, but may also make a difference mathematically, I don't know. I think he should ask MC to revise his score and to fix it so it says 85 there as well.
This story has been told a few times in documentaries and many times in books. Might as well go with real true stories. This is sort of inspired by the life of Bob Dylan. Even in one of the first clips you show, The Music Inn was and still is not located on a corner, it is located in the middle of the block on West 4th Street, positively.
Not one of Woody Allen ‘s best. Woody Allen sure is a genius. One of not the most important screenwriter in American history but that film was alright. It’s still impressive how his career could be destroyed by a petty, vindictive woman fabricating abuse claims, happens to millions of men every year in the USA. Specially a woman who committed paternity fraud by having an affair, getting pregnant from said affair, hiding it all and making her boyfriend believe the child was his. That’s all the proof you need to know. Terrible woman.
I really liked his singing in that. He sang the standard "Everything Happens to Me" in the middle of the film, and that's when the film reached another level.
I’m glad the film shows that Dylan was never someone who would commit himself to anyone or anything outside himself. I’ve gotten that vibe from him since the 70s. He’s a revered cultural figure, but that doesn’t mean he’s a decent human being.
Well look at it this way: Either you enjoy it, and it only enhances your love for Dylan, or you don't enjoy it, and your love for Dylan remains intact. Win-win.
I must say this and sorry if it’s been mentioned before, your audio is peaking a lot! You might have to change that XLR cable haha. Otherwise, thank you for all the love for the movies ! 🙏 love your channel guys
Sadly, it doesn't look like there are any IMAX screens for the movie here in NYC. Mufasa, Wicked and Sonic 3 are taking up almost all of the premium screens (effin' kids!! haha)
Who goes to the cinema at Christmas? Honestly is this some kind of tradition in America to go to the cinema at Christmas? Because where i live tradition is you watch Die Hard, trading places home alone on tv while stuffing yourself with cookies
1. Lots of people just don't celebrate Christmas. 2. Lots of families that do celebrate wrap up the celebrations early enough to still wanna go to a movie and relax after pretending not to be annoyed by their distant racist relatives they just spent a whole day putting up with.
I couldn't agree more with you! I have two young kids. After opening gifts and celebrating, the last thing I want to do is go to the movie theaters. Perhaps, older people and those who don't celebrate Christmas go. Although, I still don't know why they would go on that day. Why not the weekend afterwards.
I enjoyed it but I just felt most of the female characters were written in a way where they just have to look At Bob agape while he treats most people like Shit haha
I was just rewatching No Direction Home in anticipation for this movie, and it's hilarious how OFFENDED people were about him going electric. Insane to still show up at the concert to boo him.
Out of 10, this is like a 4.5 for me, easily. I really don't see how, in constantly bringing up the Walk Hard-isms of films like this, we're suddenly supposed to forget all that for a film that does all the same things just because it's over a more concentrated period of the artist's life, even though it tells you nothing about him or the music scene he's in beyond the "mystique" (read: Mangold's inability to pull anything substantial out of Dylan's life).
@@thefilmseeker but that is the exact point it’s trying to make. Hes been elusive for 60 years. No one has a read on him and that’s not what the movie is aiming to do
@@rayahayes-mora2796 Yeah but Todd Haynes already did that almost 20 years ago while also making an interesting film. This is just Walk Hard with some of the pieces missing. Spending 2-and-a-half hours telling me Dylan is mysterious (something everyone already knows) without giving any depth to that mystery or even contextualizing the music scene in any significant way just reads like: "Well, we were gonna get a traditional Bob Dylan biopic eventually, so why not get it over with?"
@@kellybrincks Nosferatu does has some Oscar buzz for some craft categories. It's definitely getting nominations for cinematography, costumes, production design and makeup.
@@basquat76 Yeah you would think that but the tone of the movie is more natural, subtle and it feels like an engaging character study. It's definitely not trying to be baity in any way!
@@basquat76 Fine suit yourself! I've seen a lot of annoying Oscar baity movies like Elvis and Bohemian Rhapsody and this is not one of those. It is great on its own merits.
I usually enjoy Christy's reviews and comments. However, as far as Bob Dylan goes, she wasn't born yet when he rose to fame. She never experienced the sixties.She has no reference point for her opinions concerning Dylan or his times.
Well, if we could only review movies about places and things we had experienced personally, we wouldn’t have a lot to talk about, would we? Thanks for watching.
@@johnkaufman5474 how refreshing for someone to reflect and admit their take was not well thought out. More people like you should exist on the internet!
I just can’t do it. Chalamet is the most overrated actor of his generation, in my opinion, and I deplore Bob Dylan. When he won the Nobel Prize for Literature, I lost my mind and went on an actual two-day rant, and I’m now no longer allowed to talk about Dylan in the house.
Well then this is a combo that would definitely drive you insane. You don't have to like someone but you've clearly got some issues. I'm sorry you feel this way 🙏
Bob Dylan is the most important singer, songwriter, lyricist and literature American figure of the last 100 years. His Nobel Prize for Literature was merited. His Medal of Freedom was merited. His Oscar. His Grammy’s. Hell, even his Asturian Prince of the Arts prize was merited.
@@davidfilmexpert Issues? I still watch Chalamet movies and think he’s given two or three good performances. I acknowledge that Dylan has written some great songs, certain covers of which are in my playlists. Not sure why I would have issues because I can’t bring myself to watch a film about a singer-songwriter who usually grates on me played by an actor who usually grates on me.
@@cactaceous Murica! Most important singer song writer in America means most important in the world. All Americans should get a Nobel just for existing.
Never cared to see Walk Hard for the longest time; but thanks to Christy's continuous, influential praises, I rented the film and immediately bought it after watching. Thanks, Christy. 😁
So glad to hear that!
Glad this turned out really well for all involved, it is very tricky to make movies about iconic people.
Dylan’s hometown was just a town over from mine growing up-he’s definitely kind of a grounded local folk hero as opposed to Prince who we certainly claim and love but was a much more removed, ethereal sort of star than Dylan.
I knew a girl who was absolutely OBSESSED with him which tbh is kind of weird when he’s a guy who just lives over that way lol.
Timothee was just up here in Minneapolis hanging around the U of M campus to promote the film and seemed very normal and chill about it which is always nice.
Really good review! I was obsessed with Bob Dylan’s music in my 20s. I’m really looking forward to this. I always love music biopics. Ray, Walk the Line, The Doors.
Great discussion! I really enjoyed Tim's contributions about Dylan and the era and Christy's points about what this movie does as a musical biopic as we've had so many of them.
So glad you both loved it, I saw this film and I was in love with it from the very first frame. This is the best and most sophisticated music biopic we've had in recent years. Can't wait to see it again! ✌️
It's getting kinda mixed reviews!
@@BreakfastAllDay I know it's crazy, maybe it's because these critics are exhausted by these music biopics but this one is great.
@@BreakfastAllDay the reception is a little mixed, but still better than most of the other music biopics we've had in the last few years. I agree with you, Christy that people are too harsh on Mangold. He's a very solid filmmaker, even if he's not breaking any new ground. He knows how to deliver.
@@piadox I second that, this one definitely delivers. 👍
@@davidfilmexpert No, it's because this one sucks, man. There's nothing unique or interesting about this; the concentrated timeframe does absolutely nothing to serve the film.
Pleasantly surprised to hear this came out well. Heard an ad during a podcast that did the whole “he’s like this generation’s Elvis!” and it made it sound like another ‘Bohemian Rhapsody’
Biopics work best when they limit themselves to a specific time frame instead of the cradle to grave route
If Christy ever writes James Mangold's obit, I know what the headline is going to say!
As a giant music fan of a lot of genres over a lot of years, I think this will totally create new fans because many people really haven't "heard" the lyrics of these early songs....its considered more like oldy moldy or just humming along folk rock.
I'm looking forward to seeing this and also think it would've been funny to name this "Diamonds and Rust," after Baez's scathing song about him.
This sounds really good. I look forward to this.
Looking forward to the day when someone makes an Oscar-y biopic about Brian Aubert and the Silversun Pickups. 🙂
Here is a haiku for you to ponder on a winter evening ❄✨🍵.
Chalamet as Bob,
a strange fit, but time forgives-
dessert waits for none.
But how come no one asks Bob Dylan, why you sound so much like Dewey Cox?
Society celebrates youth and beauty. One day would love to see a film depicting elderly Dylan. At 83 he's still out there performing. What motivates him ? Generally hate musical bio pics but look forward to this one. Wish more were like 1993's "Thirty Two short films about Glenn Gould". Brief vignettes that show slices of a persons life. If someone doesn't shout JUDAS in this film I'll be disappointed.
Shots every time they mention Walk Hard. 😆
What’s your favourite Bob Dylan song?
I can't wait to see Timmy performance and who is Bob Dylan musiician and his musics. 🤗
James Mangold is definitely a solid big studio writer-director (Walk the Line, 3.10 to Yuma, Logan, Ford v Ferrari, Cop Land, Heavy). We just had the Amy Winehouse, Whitney Houston & Bob Marley biopics with the Bob Dylan, Michael Jackson, Frank Sinatra, Bruce Springsteen & an entire Beatles Cinematic Universe all to come, that's a LOT of music biopics in a relatively short space of time!
Right, Logan and Ford v. Ferrari are both great too!
Yeah, but this probably the best music biopic we're ever gonna get. I've seen it and it's by far better than those Amy Whinehouse, Whitney Houston and Bob Marley biopics and it's definitely way better than Elvis or Bohemian Rhapsody. This is worth your time! 👍
11:11, West Village, not East Village.
We need more Silversun Pickups!!! Have Brian Aubert on, please.
He is great and so are they!
@@BreakfastAllDay I notice Tim gave the film an 8.5 score here, but his score on Metacritic is 80. That may be a small discrepancy, but may also make a difference mathematically, I don't know. I think he should ask MC to revise his score and to fix it so it says 85 there as well.
This story has been told a few times in documentaries and many times in books. Might as well go with real true stories. This is sort of inspired by the life of Bob Dylan. Even in one of the first clips you show, The Music Inn was and still is not located on a corner, it is located in the middle of the block on West 4th Street, positively.
Does anyone remember Timothy worked with elle fanning in a woody Allen movie years ago. A rainy day in new York.
I do, it's a very underrated movie that's pretty sweet, romantic and funny. I really liked it a lot.
Not one of Woody Allen ‘s best. Woody Allen sure is a genius. One of not the most important screenwriter in American history but that film was alright. It’s still impressive how his career could be destroyed by a petty, vindictive woman fabricating abuse claims, happens to millions of men every year in the USA. Specially a woman who committed paternity fraud by having an affair, getting pregnant from said affair, hiding it all and making her boyfriend believe the child was his. That’s all the proof you need to know. Terrible woman.
@davidfilmexpert I liked it too. It always starred selena Gomez too.
I really liked his singing in that. He sang the standard "Everything Happens to Me" in the middle of the film, and that's when the film reached another level.
Great edit of Edward Norton.
I understand why, but I'm a bit annoyed all the better films this month aren't out until the 25th.
It's annoying for us as well! Always a sprint at the finish.
I’m glad the film shows that Dylan was never someone who would commit himself to anyone or anything outside himself. I’ve gotten that vibe from him since the 70s. He’s a revered cultural figure, but that doesn’t mean he’s a decent human being.
I love Bob Dylan
I honestly never got the hype for Dylan; I hate people who say "overrated" because it's all subjective, if anything I'm jealous
I am terrified to see this film because I hold Dylan in such high regard I am afraid of what the film maker might have done to his legacy 😢
Well look at it this way: Either you enjoy it, and it only enhances your love for Dylan, or you don't enjoy it, and your love for Dylan remains intact. Win-win.
Are you going to watch The Count of Monte Cristo this Friday?
I must say this and sorry if it’s been mentioned before, your audio is peaking a lot! You might have to change that XLR cable haha.
Otherwise, thank you for all the love for the movies ! 🙏 love your channel guys
Thanks for the advice, we're always trying to improve the experience here.
Gotta see it although 8.2 is not flailing high lol
I am looking forward to seeing this when it comes to streaming. I am not sure that the movie screen will add to the storytelling or mise en scene.
Don't wait for it to come to streaming. I've seen a screening of this and it's really great and worth your time. Trust me! 🙏
You're better off not wasting your time with this one at all.
The big screen will make it seem more like attending a real-life concert, featuring Bob Dylan, Joan Baez, etc.
@AbcDef-ww2gy What's so bad about that?
@@thefilmseeker You're wrong! You haven't even seen the film yet, I have and I had a great time.
Sadly, it doesn't look like there are any IMAX screens for the movie here in NYC. Mufasa, Wicked and Sonic 3 are taking up almost all of the premium screens (effin' kids!! haha)
Oh no, Sonic in IMAX!
IMAX is a one night only for this Wednesday, Dec 18. I actually got tickets for one based on Christy's and Brian's out of the theater reaction 😊
No IMAX showings tomorrow night near me either. Sadly.
Probably only in major metro film markets. Which sucks lol.
Lisan al Gaib!
What can't he do???
Dylan never wrote no "Royal Jelly." Maybe Bob Dylan is trying to be Dewey Cox!
Good morning, Your Honor. May I approach the bench?
I don't give a damn what anybody thinks
I stay up all night & I smoke & I drink
Do you think people who don’t like Bob Dylan’s music will like this movie? I personally find his music incredibly annoying
Who goes to the cinema at Christmas? Honestly is this some kind of tradition in America to go to the cinema at Christmas? Because where i live tradition is you watch Die Hard, trading places home alone on tv while stuffing yourself with cookies
Yes, particularly in cities with large Jewish populations (New York, LA), a movie and Chinese food is the thing to do.
@@BreakfastAllDay Ah the Jewish population and others who don't celebrate Christmas might go. Of course
1. Lots of people just don't celebrate Christmas.
2. Lots of families that do celebrate wrap up the celebrations early enough to still wanna go to a movie and relax after pretending not to be annoyed by their distant racist relatives they just spent a whole day putting up with.
I couldn't agree more with you! I have two young kids. After opening gifts and celebrating, the last thing I want to do is go to the movie theaters. Perhaps, older people and those who don't celebrate Christmas go. Although, I still don't know why they would go on that day. Why not the weekend afterwards.
@@yank1tonybats511 Because that's the day the new movies are out!
Watch Timmy in the trailers made me laugh so hard with his bad acting. I thought for a second it was a Wes Anderson film.
He's very good in this. Maybe give it a chance.
I enjoyed it but I just felt most of the female characters were written in a way where they just have to look
At Bob agape while he treats most people like
Shit haha
@@gimlicharms Well that's who Bob Dylan was, he treated most people like shit.
The folk fans in the early 60s were snobs. They hated rock.
I was just rewatching No Direction Home in anticipation for this movie, and it's hilarious how OFFENDED people were about him going electric. Insane to still show up at the concert to boo him.
@piadox ya Dylan said he didnt understand how they could buy the tickets up so fast
Chalamet rocks
Out of 10, this is like a 4.5 for me, easily. I really don't see how, in constantly bringing up the Walk Hard-isms of films like this, we're suddenly supposed to forget all that for a film that does all the same things just because it's over a more concentrated period of the artist's life, even though it tells you nothing about him or the music scene he's in beyond the "mystique" (read: Mangold's inability to pull anything substantial out of Dylan's life).
@@thefilmseeker but that is the exact point it’s trying to make. Hes been elusive for 60 years. No one has a read on him and that’s not what the movie is aiming to do
@@rayahayes-mora2796 Yeah but Todd Haynes already did that almost 20 years ago while also making an interesting film. This is just Walk Hard with some of the pieces missing.
Spending 2-and-a-half hours telling me Dylan is mysterious (something everyone already knows) without giving any depth to that mystery or even contextualizing the music scene in any significant way just reads like: "Well, we were gonna get a traditional Bob Dylan biopic eventually, so why not get it over with?"
@@thefilmseeker i see what your saying. But I’m not there was mythic storytelling so there was room for creative freedom. It seems different to me.
@@rayahayes-mora2796 Yeah it’s different, in a way that proves that a typical approach like this one doesn’t work for someone like Dylan.
@@thefilmseeker fair enough
How does this movie have Oscar buzz, but not Nosferatu? There's a reason I stopped watching the Oscars in the 90s.
@@kellybrincks Nosferatu does has some Oscar buzz for some craft categories. It's definitely getting nominations for cinematography, costumes, production design and makeup.
👍
I just can’t get past how pretentious and shallow TC is
Is this the most Oscar baity film ever made?
It is not.
@@BreakfastAllDay Oh please, a biopic that comes out at Christmas is the most Oscar baity type of film there is.
@@basquat76 Yeah you would think that but the tone of the movie is more natural, subtle and it feels like an engaging character study. It's definitely not trying to be baity in any way!
@@davidfilmexpert Oh please spare me.
@@basquat76 Fine suit yourself! I've seen a lot of annoying Oscar baity movies like Elvis and Bohemian Rhapsody and this is not one of those. It is great on its own merits.
I have never liked him and have no interest to see this
I usually enjoy Christy's reviews and comments. However, as far as Bob Dylan goes, she wasn't born yet when he rose to fame. She never experienced the sixties.She has no reference point for her opinions concerning Dylan or his times.
So you gotta be 70+ to have a valid opinion on the movie?
Well, if we could only review movies about places and things we had experienced personally, we wouldn’t have a lot to talk about, would we? Thanks for watching.
@@BreakfastAllDay Thinking about my comment: That was dumb and I was wrong.
@@johnkaufman5474 how refreshing for someone to reflect and admit their take was not well thought out. More people like you should exist on the internet!
I just can’t do it. Chalamet is the most overrated actor of his generation, in my opinion, and I deplore Bob Dylan. When he won the Nobel Prize for Literature, I lost my mind and went on an actual two-day rant, and I’m now no longer allowed to talk about Dylan in the house.
Well then this is a combo that would definitely drive you insane. You don't have to like someone but you've clearly got some issues. I'm sorry you feel this way 🙏
This film successfully answers the question: "What if a kazoo wanted to be a real boy?"
Bob Dylan is the most important singer, songwriter, lyricist and literature American figure of the last 100 years. His Nobel Prize for Literature was merited. His Medal of Freedom was merited. His Oscar. His Grammy’s. Hell, even his Asturian Prince of the Arts prize was merited.
@@davidfilmexpert Issues? I still watch Chalamet movies and think he’s given two or three good performances. I acknowledge that Dylan has written some great songs, certain covers of which are in my playlists. Not sure why I would have issues because I can’t bring myself to watch a film about a singer-songwriter who usually grates on me played by an actor who usually grates on me.
@@cactaceous Murica! Most important singer song writer in America means most important in the world. All Americans should get a Nobel just for existing.