Cómo ciudadano de la CDMX puedo decirte abiertamente y con toda certeza sin miedo a cometer algún error al decirte que la CDMX es un lugar que no fue planeado y creció a lo pendejo.
Me duele mucho los problemas geográficos de México, pero me duele más la corrupción :v La verdad esta ciudad solo creció por sus huevos sin plan alguno
SERA EL SERENO Y DEMAS PRONOSTICOS PERO LA GENTE DE MI BARRIO ES MUY SOLIDARIA...ESTOY CONVENCIDO QUE NINGUN CAPITALINO DEJARA QUE ALGO LE PASE A SU BARRIO, COMO CAPITALINO SE QUE MI DISTRITO FEDERAL SEGUIRA AUNQUE SE UNDA HACIA EL CENTRO DE LA TIERRA...NUESTRA GENTE POR SU CULTURA NOS SACARA ADELANTE.
@@muchapiezamipueblodemexico9115 no entiendo que tiene que ver eso con la distribución geográfica y logística de planeación urbanística de la cdmx. Quiero decir un barrio unido es genial (lo dice alguien que viene de Iztapalapa) pero de verdad no entiendo que tiene que ver con la planeación urbanística
They teraformed the swamp to work for them. But the current city is not built to take that account. And there were fare less weight when the Aztecs lived there.
@@kakalimukherjee3297 I'm a millennial. Also pointing out how old you think someone is is not really something to be proud of. It just shows your really bad at dealing with conflict.
Well, some months ago another eagle started eating a serpent on the top of a cactus in South Africa. The signal is there, now we just need to push the city there.
Oh my god, I was about to comment that. I decided to scroll through the comments to see if someone else already did, because I didn't want to steal someone else's comment.
Flying into Mexico City is still one of the craziest things I've seen. It's pretty much dense buildings as far as you can see. If you ever get the chance to visit, make sure to keep an eye out the window when landing or taking off
the conquest of Tenochtitlan wasn't just Spanish vs Aztecs, it was an anti-Aztec Alliance lead by Cortez and followed by the top Aztec enemies in the region, the Tlaxcaltecas and multiple other vassal cities rebelling against Aztec rule. There were only 600 Spanish soldiers and thousands of Indigenous enemies of the Aztecs. Tenochtitlan was just half of the island the other half was Tlatelolco a different city with a different ruler but it was also Mexica.
But that doesn't fit the narrative of the noble indigenous people and evil European colonizers. The rest of the native Americans HATED the Aztec because of the slavery, human sacrifice, and racism.
A couple days ago me and my dad where talking about Mexico and my father told me how Mexico's capital is slowly going down, at first I didn't really understand what he meant, that is untill I saw this video
Tenochtitlan was also a waste-free city. Unlike London or other european cities at the time, they had a very proficient system for organic and inorganic waste disposal. The water was clean and everyone showered regularly.
Imagine how beautiful it must have been, a city up in the mountains, is an island in a lake. It's a paradox of every degree. I don't want to blame anyone, but destroying a city so beautiful, is cruelty beyond words.
@@marcoshernandez3964 España*, Los Estadounidenses no hicieron daño considerado a la magnitud de España a los pueblos originarios del país actual de México. De seguro eres simpatizante por España 🤦🏽♀️
I'm mexican and we are still wondering the same. When you're arriving by bus to the city, you can't help but to imagine that same scenario. And yes, we're still getting flooded from time to time lol
They were far from good, but genocide is never the answer. A relative to this is if after the nazis were defeated the allies closed Berlin and killed 90% of the population by starvation and disease
@@jankerwankerpankerlankerda2007 except the Aztecs were the buff badass Chad's and the Spaniards were the small nerdy kid who used technology to win.... (Edit*) "except the Aztecs were the buff badass Chad's and the Spaniards were the small nerdy kid who used technology, STRATEGIES*, KNOWLEDGE* to win...."
so you're telling me that the aztecs had a metropolitan city with the population size of boston perfectly suited to their environment and the spaniards came and short-sightedly imposed their european building methods onto the city and it was a disaster? 🤔
@@v.m.m101 NOOOOOO YOU CANT JUST CROSS AN OCEAN, FORM A COALITIAN ALLIANCE, AND DEFEAT US IN BATTLE. YOU CANT JUST BUILD A MODERN MEGOPLIS ONTOP OF OUR PYRAMIDS NOOOOOOOOOO STOOOOOOP
I live in Mexico City and because of the fragile terrain (you can go to the downtown and see how the cathedral and many buildings are sinking) the earthquakes are specially destructive here, literally makes you feel like you're stand on a jelly. Everyone fears them.
I’m an urban designer from Mexico City and I’m impressed on how well informed this video is, you did a great job on your research! Maybe the only two things that you miss were 1. After the 5 years flood, they decided not to move the city because it was culturally, politically and religiously the most important area of the region. 2. The Mexico City water system is the longest (in time) and largest (in size) project that the city and probably the continent has ever had. The construction of the water system in order to drain the lakes started a few years after the Spanish conquer the city in 1521 and it roughly ended until the late 1800s, (almost 100 years after Mexico became independent) took more than 300 years to complete due to the difficult terrain, the technology of the time, the size of the project and other factors.
Correction: The Spanish didn't conquer the Aztecs; it was the Tlaxcalans and other tribes. The Spanish were just another tribe that joined the Tlaxcalans. Then small pox hit and the Spanish took credit for the fall of the Aztec Empire.
The eagle thing is just a romantic legend, the real reason the city was founded where it is is because that's the only place the Aztecs were allowed to settle. The nomadic tribe mentioned on the video that founded the city was loathed by all the other civilizations living in Central Mexico, they were kicked out of everywhere and eventually sent to a swampy lake full of snakes, that's where they founded their city, the tribe then became an empire and that's when they came up with the eagle legend.
In Cortés' diaries, Cortés expressed his amazement and admiration at seeing such a wonderful city. The Aztec Empire had clean water, they could bathe, they had food and canals that worked perfectly, but they did not take advantage of the city as it was.
But honestly LA was better, I left Mexico City in 1993, it was literally deadly and disgusting. I had terrible respiratory issues because of the pollution growing up there. Then moved to Los Angeles area in my teens and all my respiratory issues went away. Few allergies here and there. The air quality is not the best in LA but way better than Mexico City. I think both places are now almost the same, Mexico has come along way.
As a mexicain the lives in mexico city in our history class were taught that during the colonial period they tried to move the capital from mexico city to somewhere in Puebla because of the massive floodings and the spread of deseases and they even started the construction copies of important buildings in that place but at the last moment the king of spain told them that they would stay in mexico city and they just obey
If you know anything about Aztec gods this is pretty par for the course. Going to an Aztec god for peace and prosperity is like going to Zeus for marriage advice. Just....do the opposite lol.
@@plazmica0323 wasn’t that the Mayans? It is all relative. Compared to what happened after I am sure it was a pretty ok place to live in that time period. I would have rather been there than London, to be sure.
Mexico City does have one huge geographic advantage. The weather is great all year around, heating and cooling costs are very low compared to most other places.
A writer named Jorge Ibargüengoitia said that the tourist from Mexico city was easily recognizable because wherever he arrived the first thing he would do was going to complain about the weather. Here we usually say (I'm myself born and raised here) that the city has only three weathers: goddamned sun, goddamned rain and goddamned cold (pinche sol, pinche lluvia, pinche frío), but truth be told It's far from the hottest, coldest or rainiest city in Mexico alone, we just are so used to benign weather that anything above 27° or below 14° Celsius (80-57°F) annoys us.
Eagle: Finally, I’ve got a good meal. I’ll just lounge on this cactus here and eat it. Years later: This is why Mexico City has been sinking 0.5 meters each year
So let's build a time machine to go back in time, become one with the Mexican tribe and try to make the prophecy different. How about a bobcat eating a rodent? Cats hate water, it's genius!
Funfact: Mexico has a cool tradition of having some hardcore world-class civil engineers, one of the buffest one's Bernardo Quintana, who designed the modern waterworks + anti-sinking master plan for México City back in the 60's, the project is so massive, complex, detailed and elegant that to this day no one dares redesign it, nevermind touch it when planning for future developments, etc.
@@allemon93 Or perhaps... the project is working, and Mexico City would otherwise be a desolate HOLE IN THE GROUND by now, if it was never implemented!
@@jacob4920 yeah and also lets remember that mexican authorities arent always the best at following well structured and long term projects. There was also the plan for highways that would make the gringos envy but all we got is Viaducto, the Rapid Pair (Patriotismo and Revolucion) and some disconected (and badly jointed) areas of Periferico
Lake Texcoco was once an ideal place to build a city with the right technology. The climate was great, the reclaimed land was arable, and rainfall was pretty good. Also, it was a very strategic location.
Yeah I’m glad the video mentioned it, it’s really sad the the crown ruined it, apparently there were even spaniards who wanted to keep regional engineering practices going but the crown asked for a typical spanish town to be built on top. Such a shame because now the city is basically guaranteed to collapse within our lifetime.
Aztecs: Look at this incredible city we decided to build here, it's an architectural marvel- Spaniards: *destroys it* Aztecs: .... Spaniards: Oh no! The Spaniards proceeding to build a new city and shrinks the lake: _Anyway_ By the way, Mexica is pronounced "Meshika"
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I agree with you 👍 even thou I have leaved here for 6 years. I am very afraid of the sinking CDMX land. The city never in my heart. Going away soon. Shoo.. Shame
@@champanzee6486 uncle RoRo purposely misspelled white because the word can be “triggering” to people of color. It’s silly, but I guess we have to deal with it.
Just a small correction: the entirety of Mexico City is not sinking, only the old parts that are located in the former lake bed. I live in the southern part of the city were everything is basically volcanic soil.
@@Dom-hi8lb It also depends. In my neighborhood water shortages are not that common, but other more densely populated areas like the borough of Iztapalapa suffer from water shortages more often
I've always wanted to visit the actual D.F. but I've only ever been to Chalco because that's where my extended family lives. I've also been to Puebla and San Luis Potosí as those are my parents' birthplaces, but as far as cities go I've only been to Chalco
@@anon2427 Los Angeles the worst city in the country? Hahahaha! Hahahahaha! Hahahaha! Los Angeles is literally the richest city in the country after New York. It’s literally the 2nd most visited city. It has more natural parks around than anywhere else in the country. I’m not even from Los Angeles, I’m from Dallas, Texas, but saying Los Angeles is the worst city in the country is plain stupid. Anywhere in Alabama, Mississippi, Kentucky, or hell, even here in Texas is worse than Los Angeles.
That's why Mexicos flag is so cool, and in my opinion, the most American flag in the Americas. It still has native American iconography on it. Very cool.
the eagle in the US seal, the talons full of arrows was copied from the Iroquois, as was our constitution. the French would refer to them as the "romans of the west" and wrote about how they were everything that the romans weren't, haha.
This sounds like more of a management problem than a geography problem. The area has fertile soil and incredible conditions for agriculture. Modernizing their transportation and water management systems basically solve all their problems. Replace cars with public transit and cycling, tear up all that concrete that cars were previously using, and suddenly you can replenish the aquifer again. Throw in some intentional water retention and dams to manage flooding to speed up the process, if you want, but it's certainly not an impossible project.
Trust me, most of Mexico's problems are indeed management problems. We have so many natural resources, wonderful climatic and geographical conditions, yet, for centuries the organized crime and the government (that for the most part are not so different from each other) have mostly deterred or obstaculized several efforts to modernise and optimise our systems. Many good projects that could drastically better our quality of life haven't come to fruition simply because they were in conflict with the interests from a bunch of shortsighted influential people.
yeahhh the mexican government is horrible, it is filled with useless people that cant even properly make plans for a project before setting it in motion (many projects recive set back after set back thanks to this) seeing a professional or someone get punished for a big fuck up is rare, not to mention if they ever care and politic the way for a project like this to be made
Los aztecas sabían lo que estaban haciendo al convertir Tenochtitlán en un sistema de canales, fueron los españoles quienes decidieron que había que construir una ciudad encima de un lago sin un sistema de canales o una forma de hacer flotar las ciudades.
Yeah, Tenochtitlan had a sustainable model refilling the lake everytime. Then such planning of the city got lost and we have the mess that exists today, but if Mexico City had growth without Spanish intervention, around the lake and with the canals and dams system we'll had something similar to Amsterdam or Venice, which I have never heard that are "bad located" cities.
@@189Blake Nah, Tenochtitlan wasn’t as sustainable as we like to think. They mostly depended on the springs of Coyoacan for clean water. Understand that lake water from a swamp is really not safe for human consumption.
@@vonxoliver nah, im a mexican and the only places where the ambience looks like that is on the movies. We do have a lot of air pollution, but that's mostly in the capital so it's whatever.
you know what i just realized? there probably was some in-tribal disagreement on whether to settle or continue to live nomadically so thats how they came up with this solution. Blessed were the settlers who stuck to their guns and built the first of Tenochtitlan cause from the sound of it they lived in an awesome town throughout their lifetime.
In a way, the ground in Mexico City is like a ridiculous giant jelly.... the subway is like the fruit inside the jelly and the buildings, depending on whether they were built properly or not, are like fruit or cream, so you have an idea of how the city works with earthquakes.
"So we could settle by the river where there's plenty of drinkable water, nice vegetation, and we can build boats for trade and commerce... But that swamp with the eagle killing a snake was pretty fucken METAL tho" - The first aztecs, probably
The narrator forgot to mention it was literally the ONLY spot left in the entire lake they could take, because it wasn't just the Aztecs there, but roughly ten other communities surrounding the lake that were later taken over by the aztecs
Así es, lo que dice nuestro estimado amigo es verdad. Gracias por informar acerca del tema, incluso para los que somos mexicanos, hay información que desconocíamos. Gracias! Saludos desde Guadalajara, Jalisco, México.
Cómo siempre los tapatíos bajandosr los pantalones con cualquier extranjero. "Cosas q no sabíamos". Pues tu . Por algo ya son la tercera ciudad del país Saludos de Monterrey
@@miguelangelrosalesreyes5801 Completamente desubicado tu comentario. Nada tiene que ver que sea de Guadalajara. Simplemente lo saludé respetuosamente y le dije de dónde van los saludos. Me pareces un Regio simple, común y corriente tratando de sobresalir en algo que nada tiene que ver. De igual forma, y por educación, te regreso el saludo.
All of this wouldn't have happened if the eagle didn't thought: "Ah this cactus looks perfect to eat my hunted snake in the middle of this lake that isn't inhabited!"
Don't blame the eagle. Blame the Spanish. The Aztecs actually made the whole thing work, because, as primitive as they were, they were also freaking GENIUSES at building cities! But after Cortez... it's just been one disaster after another. And all because European settlers took a great idea, and promptly flushed it down the drain, in the name of conquest.
@@Illlium believe it or not, it can become a normal thing for eagles to do, so considering that at that time they were lots of eagles, we can pretty much say Aztecs started searching by the lake even though a lake is not what someone would look for when searching for a stable city with *ground*
The snake was never in the original myth. It was only a mistake the Spanish friars made when interpreting indigenous codices for myths. The eagle, a manifestation of Huitzilopochtli and the Sun, was breathing fire and water, a symbol of war, a dichotomy, called atl tlachinolli in their language. The snake never appeared in their art post-conquest times. The mistake was so big that it left a mark on the people who designed our flag.
Reading some comments from experts in the matter, I have to say, well done in this informative video about the city I was born but did not grow up in. I would like to know why you guys did not add your research notes. It would have given it a more powerful statement. Regardless, thank you for such a great job! Teotihuacan is the most fantastic place in México City. There are two main pyramids for those who have not been there, The Sun and The Moon pyramids. Standing on top of the Moon pyramid, one can appreciate an incredible view called by the Aztecs the "Avenida de Los Muertos" or "The Avenue of the Deaths." A sight to see!
@Vladimir Putin Alps to the South, North Sea and Baltic Sea to the North, Rhine to the West, Oder to the East, hills in 2/3 of the country, diverse coast with islands and peninsulas, location in the centre of the continent. The only problem is the North European Plain. Germany's geography is one of the best in Europe
Well tenochtitlan was actually a floating city, it was an engineering miracle considering there was no technology. They had built the perfect ecologically city with floating gardens for crops. Moctezuma the 2nd was the one that introduced the Spanish to this magical floating city over time as the Spanish started to colonize in Mexico. That’s where the end of an empire began. Many historians say Moctezuma was stoned and pummeled to death by his own people bc they believed he became a puppet for Cortes and the Spanish colonizers.
I love when people say EXACTLY the same thing a video says but act like they’re saying something with authority like we didn’t all just spend 14 minutes watching the same thing.
@@deptusmechanikus7362 Except this is not true, both sides were bad, spanish conquerors commiting genocide and imposing their religion, beliefs and tsking away someone elses land, and the aztecs killing innocent people and prisoners as offerings to their gods, and enslaving neighbour villages to forcibly give a tribute of resources to tenochitlan (aztecs city) or they would get killed, a few of these villages joined forces with the spanish and thats one of the main reasons they could win against the aztecs, so technically they brought their own demise with their tirany. The native/spanish ratio of the allied soldiers was at the very least 5 to 1 if not more
There are a few locations that haven't changed. The remnants of the main temple that was on the island of tenochtitlan is still there, although its in ruins. The temple of Tlatelolco is intact though, and has survived all these years. And my dad actually grew up in a house that was built by the aztecs. The houses had survived through to his childhood in the 1960s. It was nothing glamourous, the area was dirt poor and the houses were falling apart, covered in graffiti, and didn't even have electricity, but it's still really cool to think about. No building in the USA is that old.
One note: There were 5 lakes not one. Lakes Zumpango, Xaltocan, Texcoco, Chalco and Xochimilco. Very shallow all. During the intense raining season, these lakes would interconnect. The combined surface when full was aprox 1140 square km or 441 square miles
I thought that it's more of a case of "Mexico City's geography used to be awesome"? It used to have abundant fresh water, food production and a very defensible location.
It is a pity that Lake Texcoco was drained, Mexico City has high altitude in the tropics and because of that, the climate is more temperate. It would be really cool if a sci fi movie was made showing an alternative Mexico City without Lake Texcoco being drain and somehow co-opted by with skyscrapers.
They have rebuilt parts of the lake, like the lake of Chapultepec. I could see the idea you're talking about become reality, but with massive engineering projects. Basically it would become like Venice. And not all of the city is sinking. The two oldest neighborhoods, Azcapotzalco, and El Zocalo, were both built on land so they're good.
@@MURAT-zy5eq It’s not the entire lake though, just a few small artificial ones and mostly green areas, but it’s still a good idea because those will be used to control the constant floodings in the surrounding area and also due to the of the lack of green areas in the same, which is a concrete sea of houses and streets. It’s going to be the biggest ecological park in the world
I love México City, 500 years after of it's foundation is becoming one of the best cities in the world to live in. That's why many gringos are choosing Mexico City to live and develop their professional carrier today.
Moctezuma: Aqui mero construirenos nuestra ciudad (We will built our city right here) Chichicota: No mame jefe es un pinche lago (WTF boss it's a fucking lake) Moctezuma: Quedara mamalon (It would be even cooler)
I feel like most people would never think to name Mexico City when asked for the largest cities in the world, but 3000 sq miles is no joke! That's one and a half Rhode Islands! I can hardly wrap my head around it!
It's not really, that big. Metro areas in Mexico count the entire area of the municipalities that compose them, so there are unpopulated mountains, farmlands, etc. in those 3,000 square miles. The built up urban area is way smaller.
@@PonchoANS7 dudee it its the biggest most populated per m2 jajaajajaj si eres de mexico lo sabrias jajaj y tiene montañas llenas de casas jajajajaja cdmx o estado de mexico solo tenias que explicar eso si eres de aqui jajajaja No mam.
It's built on similar earthen supports as Tenochitlan's causeways and chinampas, but more reinforced. Actually examining them would be extremely difficult and require undermining the temple, so nobody does it. The archeologists I met didn't seem to baffled- pretty sure of how it stays up, but not 100%.
Native of Mexico City here. I've heard some solutions to the problem. One is that the lake must be revived. At least with some little artificial lakes near the city, and revive some artificial rivers. Which is very hard but not impossible. In the 80s a profesor conducted a proyect for an artificial lake, called Nabor Carrillo and it revived the natural bird migration. If we revive the lake to a degree, we could be restoring the equilibrium and water filtration and giving some breath to the water issue. Which let me tell you, is VERY problematic. You have a city with scarcity of water and with floodings at the same time, caus water can't pass the lake of concrete. Still a beautiful and very lovely city ♥️♥️♥️.
As a Mexican living in Mexico's City, I can say that yes, the geographic's of this city sucks, but not only because of the reasons mentioned in the video, the distribution of the neighborhoods and tracing of the streets are very convoluted, which makes the traffic a lot more messy than other places. So much that the government rely on "innovative" transportation services that are a solution and a bigger (traffic) problem at the same time.
@@sopota6469 200 years cant fix what the Spanish did for 300+ years. Plus technology and knowledge of this problem wasn't knowned yet 200 years ago even 100 years ago.
Actually didn't, the lake was drained by the Spaniards during our Viceroyalty era, also the drainage of the lake was used as a tactic to defeat the Aztecs by cutting it's mobility
Back in the late 80's the smog was so bad, that someone there told me that when the children would be drawing a picture of the sky with the sun, and no clouds - they would reach for a grey crayon to draw the sky, instead of a blue one...
@@euphoriaggaminghd every major city in the Americas and probably Asia
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Mexican here, grew in Mexico city by middle 80s. That's false. At lasts not for me, living in the downtown. The problem that I saw, it was the city, with no trees, IDK why people there hates the trees. You can see in the distance, concrete lost in the horizon. Sometimes, when the IMECAS were high, we couldn't go outside at school recess, or for physical education class. Quite often, foreigners got their eyes irritated and cry due contamination, we are used to it. I leave the city long time back, didn't like the big crowd smashing you from everywhere, everytime I used the subway. 2 hours to get through the traffic everywhere.
One thing the video missed was that when the Aztec arrived in the region as wanderers in the first place, all of the best land was already taken. The Aztecs were pushed to the marginal areas around the shallow lake. It's a testament to their brilliance that they were able to take those marginal regions and thrive, but it's not shocking that there are continuing problems.
Honestly the biggest irony of the Mexica and Tenochtitlan was that when they arrived they were seen as Barbaric outcasts with a Warmongering God and were thusly told to fuck off and were given a really shitty piece of land that was slithering with snakes and they had to make due with their circumstances, they eventually helped overthrow a Tyrannical Ruler who at the time was probably in his 80s to 90s. They literally became the thing they helped destroy.
If anyone's interested, there is an eyewitness account of the conquest of the Aztec Empire. It is called "The Conquest of New Spain " by Bernal Diaz. His memories were dictated to his grandson and have been researched by historians. His memory was impeccable as the geography of towns and layout of Tenochtitlan was spot on .
This is part of the reason why we need more sustainable, hopefully cheaper energy sources, and a lot of it; because most places aside from the Great Lakes will likely have to purify seawater at some point, and fossil fuels won’t be helpful at all for that.
Or starving in Africa, the dead dry part of the earth. Oh no!, anyways, we gonna live here forever and then make the rest of the world feel guilty for us.
Phoenix is the epitome of that problem, worse than even Las Vegas and Southern California. Hundreds of miles from the nearest major water source, and unlike Southern California where the aquaducts are gravity fed and Vegas that is fairly close to the Colorado River, Phoenix has to pump its water uphill and yet has none of the water restrictions that Southern California and even Vegas have.
its just mythology, the real reason is they were nomads and had no where else to live but in that lake, the tribes who lived in solid ground were too strong to defeat, having no more option but the islands in the lake which where full of cactuses and snakes, hence the symbolism.
The problem is overpopulation, not the draining of the lake. Resettle the majority of the inhabitants into new towns and villages, and all of it's problems go away.
dont worry man, you may have been born too late to fight against the spaniards and too early to see the return of the Quetzalcoatl, but you are just in time to help Mexico in any way possible
Firsf time I went to Mexico City I was mind blown by just how big it is. Since it's shaped kinda like a bowl and if you were high up enough you could see miles and miles of arquitecture all around you
As a Mexican, i can confirm Mexico City is like a reverse Jenga game where you build the most stuff before an earthquake destroys Mexico City for the 69th time.
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A bird eating a snake told us to put it here. We had no choice
Y para cuando el partido wey?
Eseeee migala
Tío migala, qué haces aquí!!
Heeey es MIGALA
Usa el poder de tu canal para organizar a las masas y lograr que empujen la ciudad a otro lado
Temas para el próximo podcast: el individuo, el poder, la entropía y madre Gaia tragándose la CDMX.
"This is our promised land!"
"But... Its water, not land."
"Not with that attitude."
"Not with that altitude"*
@@xoreign that's what I was gonna say 😂😂😂
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Me, who has been living there almost his entire life: they forgot the active volcano.
They mentioned it in the first 2 minutes
Hey interested
How do you like it?
@MANSQUITO yes, so once in about a year we get the ashes from the Volcano and our air quality is even worse during those days
Can I correct your English ? "I, who have been living here almost my entire life..."
@@استاذدانيال stfu
Cómo ciudadano de la CDMX puedo decirte abiertamente y con toda certeza sin miedo a cometer algún error al decirte que la CDMX es un lugar que no fue planeado y creció a lo pendejo.
como mucho mexicano y la populacion de ahi
Porque dices? No estan planeadas las calles ni los edificios? Aun asi creo que es muy interesante y tiene mucha historia
Me duele mucho los problemas geográficos de México, pero me duele más la corrupción :v
La verdad esta ciudad solo creció por sus huevos sin plan alguno
SERA EL SERENO Y DEMAS PRONOSTICOS PERO LA GENTE DE MI BARRIO ES MUY SOLIDARIA...ESTOY CONVENCIDO QUE NINGUN CAPITALINO DEJARA QUE ALGO LE PASE A SU BARRIO, COMO CAPITALINO SE QUE MI DISTRITO FEDERAL SEGUIRA AUNQUE SE UNDA HACIA EL CENTRO DE LA TIERRA...NUESTRA GENTE POR SU CULTURA NOS SACARA ADELANTE.
@@muchapiezamipueblodemexico9115 no entiendo que tiene que ver eso con la distribución geográfica y logística de planeación urbanística de la cdmx. Quiero decir un barrio unido es genial (lo dice alguien que viene de Iztapalapa) pero de verdad no entiendo que tiene que ver con la planeación urbanística
Spain: *tries to conquer the Aztec’s capital
The Aztecs: What are you doing in my swamp?!
ok
They teraformed the swamp to work for them. But the current city is not built to take that account. And there were fare less weight when the Aztecs lived there.
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@@iciajay6891 let it sink into the earth, humans don't deserve it, just like the gold.
@@kakalimukherjee3297 I'm a millennial. Also pointing out how old you think someone is is not really something to be proud of. It just shows your really bad at dealing with conflict.
Patrick: “Why don’t we take Mexico City and push it somewhere else!”
Well, some months ago another eagle started eating a serpent on the top of a cactus in South Africa. The signal is there, now we just need to push the city there.
I was hoping I would find this!
Oh my god, I was about to comment that. I decided to scroll through the comments to see if someone else already did, because I didn't want to steal someone else's comment.
@@darraghcorr2520 It’s totally fine if you want to make similar comment.
Toluca: Hey, quit throwing your garbage over here!
Venice: I'm sinking in the ocean;
Mexico City: I'm sinking in the earth.
The Netherlands: Been there, done that and have a shirt.
now lets build us some more waterways and some extra land.
Venice is sinkimg into a sea not an ocean
Jakarta has entered the chat.
@@t.c.4321 still going underwater
Tom Cayzer Every sea is a part of an ocean
History of Mexico city:
-No mame jefe es un pinché lago
+Quedará mamalon
No tienes nada de gracia al contrario das pena
🤣🤣🤣
😂😂
🙈🐒🙉🇲🇽
Y lo cabron es que si quedo mamalon XD... Hasta que ciertas reformas cristianas llegaron xd
Mexico City's government: "And how can we solve this problem?"
Real Life Lore: "Do you know about SKILLSHARE...?"
Here before this comment hits 100 likes
@@managed9348 same
@@managed9348 85 likes now
@@managed9348 xd
You think our goverment cares ? They only care about stealing money
"Imagine your house sinking 30 meters"
Me, who lives below the sea-level already: _uhh, I'd rather not_
Ur Dutch arent you?
NICE
@@bkgames2 Or Floridian.
edit:
lol damn just checked their channel.
they dutch alright
@@amicloud_yt "After living here for years, a Miami Florida Man realizes that he's been living at sea level all this time!"
Wait no "GEKOLONISEERD" yet?
Flying into Mexico City is still one of the craziest things I've seen. It's pretty much dense buildings as far as you can see. If you ever get the chance to visit, make sure to keep an eye out the window when landing or taking off
Just out of curiosity, what is your home town?
For sure, the night view is pretty amazing too. The city is so huge and dense you can see a cluster of undulating lights for quite a while
Try not to fly in or out in the afternoon to avoid the thunder storms in rainy season.
It’s also one of the filthiest cesspools
In the world. Full of ignorance, poverty and despair. Know it fairly well.
@@lincolnguy1483 Are you those guys they call "mamon"?
the conquest of Tenochtitlan wasn't just Spanish vs Aztecs, it was an anti-Aztec Alliance lead by Cortez and followed by the top Aztec enemies in the region, the Tlaxcaltecas and multiple other vassal cities rebelling against Aztec rule. There were only 600 Spanish soldiers and thousands of Indigenous enemies of the Aztecs.
Tenochtitlan was just half of the island the other half was Tlatelolco a different city with a different ruler but it was also Mexica.
But that doesn't fit the narrative of the noble indigenous people and evil European colonizers. The rest of the native Americans HATED the Aztec because of the slavery, human sacrifice, and racism.
It didn't sucked until some crazy guy thought about building a city literally above an already perfectly built city
Almost all old cities are built above old cities. I've seen basements with a front door. Look into it!
@@Mrmaverickism lol
It always sucked
Didn’t suck* not trying to be an asshole just a casual correction :)
@@Mrmaverickism "mostly, what Ankh-Morpork was built on was Ankh-Morpork."
A couple days ago me and my dad where talking about Mexico and my father told me how Mexico's capital is slowly going down, at first I didn't really understand what he meant, that is untill I saw this video
I can understand why “Mexico’s capital is slowly” would be confusing lmao
Its slowly WHAT aistis? cmon..
Think he meant slowly sinking
@@sharifnasser7635 sorry xd, I hate my phone
Nice
Italy: We got a leaning tower.
Mexico: Amateurs
not to mention the cool eagle symbol on the flag
Normie
@@roberthipolito1351 As a Mexican, I truly do think our flag is the dopest out of them all.
We have multiple leaning towers 😭😭😫🤞
"hold my tequila"
Tenochtitlan was also a waste-free city. Unlike London or other european cities at the time, they had a very proficient system for organic and inorganic waste disposal. The water was clean and everyone showered regularly.
Lucky them in Europe at that time people used to shower once a year....
At the same time that they deforested other regions and waged wars to get slaves, yes, Tenochtitlan was paradise
@@helrem and at the same time Europeans were burning people alive and throwing poop out their windows
@@Travelsandmore333 Like burning people is exclusive to there lol
@@Travelsandmore333 Who would have thought that those who taught the Indians to dress themselves were shitting like dogs in the street. wow darwinism
Imagine how beautiful it must have been, a city up in the mountains, is an island in a lake. It's a paradox of every degree. I don't want to blame anyone, but destroying a city so beautiful, is cruelty beyond words.
that is unfortunately the way of colonization
Los estadounidenses destruyeron culturas, religiones, esclavizaron, puedo seguir bobo
@@marcoshernandez3964 España*, Los Estadounidenses no hicieron daño considerado a la magnitud de España a los pueblos originarios del país actual de México. De seguro eres simpatizante por España 🤦🏽♀️
Why wouldnt you want to blame those who did it?
I'm mexican and we are still wondering the same. When you're arriving by bus to the city, you can't help but to imagine that same scenario. And yes, we're still getting flooded from time to time lol
Extremely sad that we can't ever see this aztec city
ok
They were far from good, but genocide is never the answer. A relative to this is if after the nazis were defeated the allies closed Berlin and killed 90% of the population by starvation and disease
Hello
@@jankerwankerpankerlankerda2007 except the Aztecs were the buff badass Chad's and the Spaniards were the small nerdy kid who used technology to win....
(Edit*)
"except the Aztecs were the buff badass Chad's and the Spaniards were the small nerdy kid who used technology, STRATEGIES*, KNOWLEDGE* to win...."
@@KingOfThePiratesOfTheHill the Spainards only won against the Aztecs. Mega chads chichimecas beat them
so you're telling me that the aztecs had a metropolitan city with the population size of boston perfectly suited to their environment and the spaniards came and short-sightedly imposed their european building methods onto the city and it was a disaster? 🤔
Sounds about WHITE!
@@v.m.m101 NOOOOOO YOU CANT JUST CROSS AN OCEAN, FORM A COALITIAN ALLIANCE, AND DEFEAT US IN BATTLE. YOU CANT JUST BUILD A MODERN MEGOPLIS ONTOP OF OUR PYRAMIDS NOOOOOOOOOO STOOOOOOP
I mean, it makes perfect sense to build street instead of rivers when you have stuff like farm animals, metallurgy or maybe the damn wheel.
@@v.m.m101 you do know all throughout history, people of all colors fought wars and conquered each other?
You sound about IGNORANT
@@brettfloyd4291 Ok mayonnaise
I live in Mexico City and because of the fragile terrain (you can go to the downtown and see how the cathedral and many buildings are sinking) the earthquakes are specially destructive here, literally makes you feel like you're stand on a jelly. Everyone fears them.
I’m an urban designer from Mexico City and I’m impressed on how well informed this video is, you did a great job on your research! Maybe the only two things that you miss were 1. After the 5 years flood, they decided not to move the city because it was culturally, politically and religiously the most important area of the region.
2. The Mexico City water system is the longest (in time) and largest (in size) project that the city and probably the continent has ever had. The construction of the water system in order to drain the lakes started a few years after the Spanish conquer the city in 1521 and it roughly ended until the late 1800s, (almost 100 years after Mexico became independent) took more than 300 years to complete due to the difficult terrain, the technology of the time, the size of the project and other factors.
This should get pinned
Nice job mate
Correction: The Spanish didn't conquer the Aztecs; it was the Tlaxcalans and other tribes. The Spanish were just another tribe that joined the Tlaxcalans. Then small pox hit and the Spanish took credit for the fall of the Aztec Empire.
Hey Esteban!
What agency do you work for? Or do you work directly for gov?
@@lamasbelladelmundoI died at this commrnent. lol
I remember a meme that I saw that was like this:
“We will build the city here”
“Chief it’s a lake”
“Oh it’s going to be dope”
"But chief, why?"
"A bird just ate a snake."
"Roger-Roger."
"Va a quedar mamalona" XD
@@SeiPR727 jefe, es pinche lago
Quedará mamalona
El meme se arruina en ingles xd
"Quedará mamalona"
Imagine being the bird that caused the creation of Mexico City and is now on their flag
It’s a Golden Eagle
imagine that the stars that some of them represent stolen states of Mexico are on the American flag
😲😲😲😲
The eagle thing is just a romantic legend, the real reason the city was founded where it is is because that's the only place the Aztecs were allowed to settle. The nomadic tribe mentioned on the video that founded the city was loathed by all the other civilizations living in Central Mexico, they were kicked out of everywhere and eventually sent to a swampy lake full of snakes, that's where they founded their city, the tribe then became an empire and that's when they came up with the eagle legend.
@@sjxn310 True, but why didn’t they settle in Tijuana then?
In Cortés' diaries, Cortés expressed his amazement and admiration at seeing such a wonderful city. The Aztec Empire had clean water, they could bathe, they had food and canals that worked perfectly, but they did not take advantage of the city as it was.
Imagine how beautiful a city that would have been if they didn't fill in the lake. Imagine a city with Venice-like canals in Mexico.
It used to be know like that before. It was know as the Venice of Mexico 🇲🇽
@@herrera1856 Venice should be renamed the Xochimilco of Europe
Spanish ppl didn’t know how the lake worked, aztecs had a complex system to avoid floods n they polluted the lake instead
Venice is sinking too though
@@Raja-bz4yw same idea from the same people
-"We will build the city here"
-"Boss, its a fucking lake"
-"it's going to be mamalon"
And so it was.
KAJAJAJA me acuerdo de cuando vi ese meme en español
jjjaja mamalon xd
Excelente JAJAJA
lelystad right? no wait that was sea..... any polder city in the netherlands
@@drunkenone1699 Como lograste traducirlo?
"they've managed to reduce their air pollution levels to be similar to Los Angeles"
thats still pretty fuckin awful
I know L.A air is pretty nasty
Considering Mexico City is whopping mega populated.
Los Angeles air smells like piss
Misery loves company haha
But honestly LA was better, I left Mexico City in 1993, it was literally deadly and disgusting. I had terrible respiratory issues because of the pollution growing up there. Then moved to Los Angeles area in my teens and all my respiratory issues went away. Few allergies here and there. The air quality is not the best in LA but way better than Mexico City. I think both places are now almost the same, Mexico has come along way.
As a mexicain the lives in mexico city in our history class were taught that during the colonial period they tried to move the capital from mexico city to somewhere in Puebla because of the massive floodings and the spread of deseases and they even started the construction copies of important buildings in that place but at the last moment the king of spain told them that they would stay in mexico city and they just obey
That eagle must have been like: We do a little trolling.
The biggest troller
If you know anything about Aztec gods this is pretty par for the course. Going to an Aztec god for peace and prosperity is like going to Zeus for marriage advice. Just....do the opposite lol.
Not really. Seems like the eagle led them to build a veritable paradise. Someone just came and ruined it.
@@louisskulnik7390 how do we know if it was paradise ? maybe it was hear ripping out of chest on top of temples hellhole for all we know
@@plazmica0323 wasn’t that the Mayans? It is all relative. Compared to what happened after I am sure it was a pretty ok place to live in that time period. I would have rather been there than London, to be sure.
“Imagine your house 30 m lower”
The Netherlands 🇳🇱: 🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊
Lol
Well, that's why it's called Netherlands, Lol.
Me, a Dutchman who lives on 210m: 'I see no issue'
@@vincent5880 Limbo?
@@smqrtie3838 helaas wel
Ancient Geographists: "It's impossible to build here"
Badass Aztecs: "Hold my pulque"
Lolll
best comment ever !!!
*PILLAR MEN THEME INTENSIFIES*
"hold my pulque" HAHAHA what a gem!
Wasn't it mezcal?
Mexico City does have one huge geographic advantage. The weather is great all year around, heating and cooling costs are very low compared to most other places.
A writer named Jorge Ibargüengoitia said that the tourist from Mexico city was easily recognizable because wherever he arrived the first thing he would do was going to complain about the weather. Here we usually say (I'm myself born and raised here) that the city has only three weathers: goddamned sun, goddamned rain and goddamned cold (pinche sol, pinche lluvia, pinche frío), but truth be told It's far from the hottest, coldest or rainiest city in Mexico alone, we just are so used to benign weather that anything above 27° or below 14° Celsius (80-57°F) annoys us.
Yep
Eagle: Finally, I’ve got a good meal. I’ll just lounge on this cactus here and eat it.
Years later: This is why Mexico City has been sinking 0.5 meters each year
So let's build a time machine to go back in time, become one with the Mexican tribe and try to make the prophecy different. How about a bobcat eating a rodent? Cats hate water, it's genius!
Same thing goes to Jakarta Indonesia both Mexico City and Jakarta both sinking every year
@@somecallmeelvis no wonder! i mean, the planet is like that, if you want to build atop the water you gonna sink eventually
@@readmyusernamecauseitssoreally Nice idea
@@readmyusernamecauseitssoreally Or tell the spanish to build the city somewhere else
Funfact: Mexico has a cool tradition of having some hardcore world-class civil engineers, one of the buffest one's Bernardo Quintana, who designed the modern waterworks + anti-sinking master plan for México City back in the 60's, the project is so massive, complex, detailed and elegant that to this day no one dares redesign it, nevermind touch it when planning for future developments, etc.
Considering the city is sinking at that pace maybe the plan should be looked at
@@allemon93 Or perhaps... the project is working, and Mexico City would otherwise be a desolate HOLE IN THE GROUND by now, if it was never implemented!
@@jacob4920 yeah and also lets remember that mexican authorities arent always the best at following well structured and long term projects.
There was also the plan for highways that would make the gringos envy but all we got is Viaducto, the Rapid Pair (Patriotismo and Revolucion) and some disconected (and badly jointed) areas of Periferico
@@allemon93 nada fresco el gobierno
@@jacob4920 if it's sinking this much, it's clearly not working, Jake
Lake Texcoco was once an ideal place to build a city with the right technology. The climate was great, the reclaimed land was arable, and rainfall was pretty good. Also, it was a very strategic location.
This
Sucks Spaniards wanted to bring their faulty engineering to a different continent and mess everything up
It sounds more like WASTED POTENTIAL
Until the spaniards came ☠️
Yeah I’m glad the video mentioned it, it’s really sad the the crown ruined it, apparently there were even spaniards who wanted to keep regional engineering practices going but the crown asked for a typical spanish town to be built on top. Such a shame because now the city is basically guaranteed to collapse within our lifetime.
Aztecs: Look at this incredible city we decided to build here, it's an architectural marvel-
Spaniards: *destroys it*
Aztecs: ....
Spaniards: Oh no!
The Spaniards proceeding to build a new city and shrinks the lake: _Anyway_
By the way, Mexica is pronounced "Meshika"
Im glad we Spaniards put the mexicans living down mountains ahahah 💪
Yea yes yes!!
U re right
Number one victory royale
Yeah, Fortnite, we 'bout to get down (get down)
Ten kills on the board right now
Just wiped out Tomato Town
My friend just got downed
I revived him, now we're heading south-bound
Now we're in the Pleasant Park streets
Look at the map, go to the marked sheet
… Take me to your Xbox to play Fortnite …
,,Birds are always right. ☝️"
@@k.r.99 better than that vindictive fear mongering bible some people go by .
I agree with you 👍 even thou I have leaved here for 6 years. I am very afraid of the sinking CDMX land. The city never in my heart. Going away soon. Shoo.. Shame
@@bong2020able Not before u climb the Popocatepetl. Don't miss the opportunity !!!
Always trust the bird 🦅
Eagle eating snake on a cactus: "What have I done"
Oh God you made me spit my coffee during breakfast on my uniform. My day is ruined but the laughter i had says it was totally worth it! Thank you!
😁
@Uncle RoRo *White
@@champanzee6486 uncle RoRo purposely misspelled white because the word can be “triggering” to people of color. It’s silly, but I guess we have to deal with it.
@@Eater_of_Souls Seems like everything is offensive nowadays.
Just a small correction: the entirety of Mexico City is not sinking, only the old parts that are located in the former lake bed. I live in the southern part of the city were everything is basically volcanic soil.
How’s the water problem, any better?
@@Dom-hi8lb It also depends. In my neighborhood water shortages are not that common, but other more densely populated areas like the borough of Iztapalapa suffer from water shortages more often
I've always wanted to visit the actual D.F. but I've only ever been to Chalco because that's where my extended family lives. I've also been to Puebla and San Luis Potosí as those are my parents' birthplaces, but as far as cities go I've only been to Chalco
Fuentes: el gobierno
@@UnchainedMelodie92 I just went in May and it is 100% worth the trip. There is so much to see and do. I can't wait to go back! 😊
As a Filipino I have always been fascinated by Mexico City ever since as a child and it's still my dream destination in the Americas..
come babe
Well! Mexico City waiting for you to enjoy!
Beautiful city, beautiful country. I’ve made the decision to got at least once a year every year!
We will always welcome you with open arms my friend.
In America* it's just a one continent called America, North America, Central America and South America are regions
“Down to the level of Los Angeles”
So it’s still terrible
Well a city of 24 million having the same air quality as a city of 14 million isn’t a failure either
@@nayhboseguera1774 when the city of 14 million is known to many as the worst city in the country, there’s room for improvement for the other one.
Los Angeles actually significantly reduced air pollution over the last 30 years.
@@anon2427 Los Angeles the worst city in the country? Hahahaha! Hahahahaha! Hahahaha! Los Angeles is literally the richest city in the country after New York. It’s literally the 2nd most visited city. It has more natural parks around than anywhere else in the country. I’m not even from Los Angeles, I’m from Dallas, Texas, but saying Los Angeles is the worst city in the country is plain stupid. Anywhere in Alabama, Mississippi, Kentucky, or hell, even here in Texas is worse than Los Angeles.
@@mml1426 you do realize they weren’t talking about the city itself, right? They were talking about the air pollution levels in LA.
That's why Mexicos flag is so cool, and in my opinion, the most American flag in the Americas. It still has native American iconography on it. Very cool.
thanks Dr House, miss you bro
the eagle in the US seal, the talons full of arrows was copied from the Iroquois, as was our constitution. the French would refer to them as the "romans of the west" and wrote about how they were everything that the romans weren't, haha.
Facts 💯
That was nice of them I'm sure the aztecs would have liked that
By your logic canada is the most American flag of North America since America's wasn't a desert it was nature lol.
Who would have guessed draining an entire enormous lake would be bad
Have you asked Walt Disney? Worked out pretty well for Disneyworld.
The Dutch drained parts of the north-sea and its working fine here;)
@@degeus6917 Unlike the Spanish, you guys actually know how to do that
@@pashauzan Indeed, that's why we drowned the Spanish many times during the 80 years independence war.
California did the same thing and made farmland out of the lakebed, now they have droughts most of the time.
This sounds like more of a management problem than a geography problem. The area has fertile soil and incredible conditions for agriculture. Modernizing their transportation and water management systems basically solve all their problems. Replace cars with public transit and cycling, tear up all that concrete that cars were previously using, and suddenly you can replenish the aquifer again. Throw in some intentional water retention and dams to manage flooding to speed up the process, if you want, but it's certainly not an impossible project.
Trust me, most of Mexico's problems are indeed management problems. We have so many natural resources, wonderful climatic and geographical conditions, yet, for centuries the organized crime and the government (that for the most part are not so different from each other) have mostly deterred or obstaculized several efforts to modernise and optimise our systems. Many good projects that could drastically better our quality of life haven't come to fruition simply because they were in conflict with the interests from a bunch of shortsighted influential people.
yeahhh the mexican government is horrible, it is filled with useless people that cant even properly make plans for a project before setting it in motion (many projects recive set back after set back thanks to this) seeing a professional or someone get punished for a big fuck up is rare, not to mention if they ever care and politic the way for a project like this to be made
I would say that is the combination of 3 things: management, corporations lobbying, and of course corruption.
It would be cool to see Mexico City in a different timeline made to the Aztec’s design
Like Venice but a lot bigger
Pretty nice, unless you're the human sacrifice that lost in the games....
@@luisderivas6005 what
@@luisderivas6005 yeah, it's a bummer when you gotta have ur heart ripped out of ur chest so that the sun may raise again tomorrow
And far more sanitary and clean, hell one can even say pleasant aromas due to the food and burning of incense wood.
Venice is sinking too
"Oh look, a delicious snake, i think i'm going to eat it in this comfortable cactus; Hopefully this won't change a civilization's destiny or anything"
Los aztecas sabían lo que estaban haciendo al convertir Tenochtitlán en un sistema de canales, fueron los españoles quienes decidieron que había que construir una ciudad encima de un lago sin un sistema de canales o una forma de hacer flotar las ciudades.
Woops it did
It wasn’t the first time
"O mira tenemos una letra que no tienen: Ñ
@@Sebastian-wz4fs Ñ, soy colombiano
When a city's position is so good that it had to be nerfed
My man...
some missing data: it was not just one lake, it was a lake system made up of 5 lakes: Texcoco, Chalco, Xochimilco, Xaltocan y Zumpango
So, basically, from minute 3 it's not hard to tell that the problem is not the location but the method used after the conquest to urbanize and build.
The location is terrible as well.
Yeah, Tenochtitlan had a sustainable model refilling the lake everytime. Then such planning of the city got lost and we have the mess that exists today, but if Mexico City had growth without Spanish intervention, around the lake and with the canals and dams system we'll had something similar to Amsterdam or Venice, which I have never heard that are "bad located" cities.
Basically the Spanish we're kinda incompetent colonizers
@@rawn9234 That's putting it extremely mildly
@@189Blake Nah, Tenochtitlan wasn’t as sustainable as we like to think. They mostly depended on the springs of Coyoacan for clean water. Understand that lake water from a swamp is really not safe for human consumption.
Wow, he really took the yellow filter off of Mexico, epic.
Epic
Well, its actually realistic since they have high air pollution
@@vonxoliver nah, im a mexican and the only places where the ambience looks like that is on the movies. We do have a lot of air pollution, but that's mostly in the capital so it's whatever.
Bold.
Creator this video is a stupid
Nomadic Mexica: What are the chances of seeing an eagle eating a snake in its beak, while perched atop a cactus?
Lake Texcoco: *Is That a Challenge?*
@S V
Tezcatlipoca: “Yes! It’s a challenge”.
Huitzilopochi: “Get the f*ck out here, Tez. I don’t want your mischief here”.
“Dude it’d be hilarious if we told the guys that we saw the eagle atop the lake”
“BRO let’s do it”
you know what i just realized? there probably was some in-tribal disagreement on whether to settle or continue to live nomadically so thats how they came up with this solution. Blessed were the settlers who stuck to their guns and built the first of Tenochtitlan cause from the sound of it they lived in an awesome town throughout their lifetime.
There is no such thing as nomadic Mexicans tho
@@rubiboy90
It's nomadic Mexica/Nahua; not Mexicans.
In a way, the ground in Mexico City is like a ridiculous giant jelly.... the subway is like the fruit inside the jelly and the buildings, depending on whether they were built properly or not, are like fruit or cream, so you have an idea of how the city works with earthquakes.
Your air pollution has to be really bad for the air quality of Los Angeles to be a huge improvement
Meanwhile me, a Delhiite: tell me 'bout it
To be fair if the city was in sea level and on the coast it would be better than LA
oh man, you haven't been to Mexico city
@@kakalimukherjee3297 electric vechiles are the only way forward i guess
A yes let’s compare LA it has ocean Mexico City dosent and Mexico City is sourraunded by mountains
"So we could settle by the river where there's plenty of drinkable water, nice vegetation, and we can build boats for trade and commerce...
But that swamp with the eagle killing a snake was pretty fucken METAL tho" - The first aztecs, probably
And standing on thorns! Don't forget about the thorns.
The narrator forgot to mention it was literally the ONLY spot left in the entire lake they could take, because it wasn't just the Aztecs there, but roughly ten other communities surrounding the lake that were later taken over by the aztecs
Aztec: ***Sees an Eagle eating a snake***
Aztec: It's free real state
I’m dying! 😂
Lmaooooo😂😂😂😂😂😂
It was the Spanish who falsely considered it a free real estate
Así es, lo que dice nuestro estimado amigo es verdad. Gracias por informar acerca del tema, incluso para los que somos mexicanos, hay información que desconocíamos. Gracias! Saludos desde Guadalajara, Jalisco, México.
La desinformación abunda amigovahora mismo he visto varios comentarios tirando mier** al que hizo el video cuando realmente esta diciendo la verdad
Cómo siempre los tapatíos bajandosr los pantalones con cualquier extranjero. "Cosas q no sabíamos". Pues tu . Por algo ya son la tercera ciudad del país
Saludos de Monterrey
@@miguelangelrosalesreyes5801 Completamente desubicado tu comentario. Nada tiene que ver que sea de Guadalajara. Simplemente lo saludé respetuosamente y le dije de dónde van los saludos. Me pareces un Regio simple, común y corriente tratando de sobresalir en algo que nada tiene que ver. De igual forma, y por educación, te regreso el saludo.
@@miguelangelrosalesreyes5801 Muy de acuerdo... la identidad mejicana es la que dictan los extranjeros y todavía hay quien les "agradece".
@@miguelangelrosalesreyes5801 siempre generalizas de forma absurda para exponer tus patéticos puntos de vista?
11:01 who says pushing Mexico City somewhere else isn’t feasible, they just never tried. Patrick’s suggestion to push Bikini Bottom worked.
PUSHHHH!!!!!!!
Let’s make this a reality
Actually we Chilangos are pushing the city towards Toluca, Cuernavaca, Queretaro and even Puebla. But the sinking parts stay in the same place.
All of this wouldn't have happened if the eagle didn't thought:
"Ah this cactus looks perfect to eat my hunted snake in the middle of this lake that isn't inhabited!"
To be fair, an eagle just randomly touching down on a cactus to snack on some snake is one of the most metal things since the invention of bronze.
Don't blame the eagle. Blame the Spanish.
The Aztecs actually made the whole thing work, because, as primitive as they were, they were also freaking GENIUSES at building cities!
But after Cortez... it's just been one disaster after another. And all because European settlers took a great idea, and promptly flushed it down the drain, in the name of conquest.
@@Illlium believe it or not, it can become a normal thing for eagles to do, so considering that at that time they were lots of eagles, we can pretty much say Aztecs started searching by the lake even though a lake is not what someone would look for when searching for a stable city with *ground*
@@jacob4920 exactly. It has always been the Westerners shoving down their idea of civilization to what is already a civilized nation.
The snake was never in the original myth. It was only a mistake the Spanish friars made when interpreting indigenous codices for myths. The eagle, a manifestation of Huitzilopochtli and the Sun, was breathing fire and water, a symbol of war, a dichotomy, called atl tlachinolli in their language. The snake never appeared in their art post-conquest times.
The mistake was so big that it left a mark on the people who designed our flag.
Any skyscraper in Mexico City is indeed a “monument.” Difficult it is to build on such land and more difficult to keep structures that high standing.
sound like they won’t be standing much longer
And there are very Strong earthquakes every 30 years
That's why mexico has the best engineers and schools
@@alanmolina9565 not really
@@oscarmartinez3186 Definitely has some very good engineers
Reading some comments from experts in the matter, I have to say, well done in this informative video about the city I was born but did not grow up in. I would like to know why you guys did not add your research notes. It would have given it a more powerful statement. Regardless, thank you for such a great job!
Teotihuacan is the most fantastic place in México City. There are two main pyramids for those who have not been there, The Sun and The Moon pyramids. Standing on top of the Moon pyramid, one can appreciate an incredible view called by the Aztecs the "Avenida de Los Muertos" or "The Avenue of the Deaths." A sight to see!
Next video: Why Germany's geography is just normal
Berlin is built on a swamp, and that produces all sorts of problems.
It's very good actually.
@Vladimir Putin And also the European Plain in the north.
But yeah, can't complain too much.
You guys don't really need geography to assert you dominance ya know.
@Vladimir Putin Alps to the South, North Sea and Baltic Sea to the North, Rhine to the West, Oder to the East, hills in 2/3 of the country, diverse coast with islands and peninsulas, location in the centre of the continent. The only problem is the North European Plain. Germany's geography is one of the best in Europe
Well tenochtitlan was actually a floating city, it was an engineering miracle considering there was no technology. They had built the perfect ecologically city with floating gardens for crops. Moctezuma the 2nd was the one that introduced the Spanish to this magical floating city over time as the Spanish started to colonize in Mexico. That’s where the end of an empire began. Many historians say Moctezuma was stoned and pummeled to death by his own people bc they believed he became a puppet for Cortes and the Spanish colonizers.
yeah, like the video said. Tenochtitlan was cool and then the Spaniards came and turned everything into shite
I love when people say EXACTLY the same thing a video says but act like they’re saying something with authority like we didn’t all just spend 14 minutes watching the same thing.
@@deptusmechanikus7362 Except this is not true, both sides were bad, spanish conquerors commiting genocide and imposing their religion, beliefs and tsking away someone elses land, and the aztecs killing innocent people and prisoners as offerings to their gods, and enslaving neighbour villages to forcibly give a tribute of resources to tenochitlan (aztecs city) or they would get killed, a few of these villages joined forces with the spanish and thats one of the main reasons they could win against the aztecs, so technically they brought their own demise with their tirany. The native/spanish ratio of the allied soldiers was at the very least 5 to 1 if not more
you are totally right, nowadays you can visit some arqueological places and to have a hold of it you can go to Xochimilco swamp, worths the trip
Danitron perdón por qué? ni siquiera estabas vivo en esa época
The Ancient Aztecs looking at their city now: “look how they’ve massacred my boy”
There are a few locations that haven't changed. The remnants of the main temple that was on the island of tenochtitlan is still there, although its in ruins. The temple of Tlatelolco is intact though, and has survived all these years. And my dad actually grew up in a house that was built by the aztecs. The houses had survived through to his childhood in the 1960s. It was nothing glamourous, the area was dirt poor and the houses were falling apart, covered in graffiti, and didn't even have electricity, but it's still really cool to think about. No building in the USA is that old.
@@1370802 thank you for this input i loved reading it. My dad is from Mexico City too, and watching this video was crazy
@@1370802 woah thats actuallly pretty cool
Actually they was Mexicas*
@@1370802"No building in the USA is that old" So we gonna pretend Mesa Verde Cliff Dwellings don't exist.
One note: There were 5 lakes not one. Lakes Zumpango, Xaltocan, Texcoco, Chalco and Xochimilco. Very shallow all.
During the intense raining season, these lakes would interconnect. The combined surface when full was aprox 1140 square km or 441 square miles
I thought that it's more of a case of "Mexico City's geography used to be awesome"? It used to have abundant fresh water, food production and a very defensible location.
Not anymore I guess
Yes, but spanish came
All is good until the Spanish came.
@@andricrypto2852 they had literally nothing to do with the fresh water, food production, etc so what are you talking about lmao
Are you asking us what you thought? English can be so dumb.
It is a pity that Lake Texcoco was drained, Mexico City has high altitude in the tropics and because of that, the climate is more temperate. It would be really cool if a sci fi movie was made showing an alternative Mexico City without Lake Texcoco being drain and somehow co-opted by with skyscrapers.
They have rebuilt parts of the lake, like the lake of Chapultepec. I could see the idea you're talking about become reality, but with massive engineering projects. Basically it would become like Venice. And not all of the city is sinking. The two oldest neighborhoods, Azcapotzalco, and El Zocalo, were both built on land so they're good.
The Lake is currently being restored, fortunately.
The current administration is rescuing the remaining of the lake
@@MURAT-zy5eq It’s not the entire lake though, just a few small artificial ones and mostly green areas, but it’s still a good idea because those will be used to control the constant floodings in the surrounding area and also due to the of the lack of green areas in the same, which is a concrete sea of houses and streets. It’s going to be the biggest ecological park in the world
They should've just built around it, like how hard would that have been?
I had a funny comment but got distracted by watching the entire video.
omg are you the chocolate rain guy?
I never had one to begin with.
Chocolate Rain. Some stay dry and others feel the pain..
Normie, the comment sucked
Hey, legend. Thanks for stopping by.
I love México City, 500 years after of it's foundation is becoming one of the best cities in the world to live in.
That's why many gringos are choosing Mexico City to live and develop their professional carrier today.
gentrification
I just love living in this hell of a city, earthquakes, floods, volcanoes, pollution,...too much fucking rain 😍
@Him he has ligma
As a mexican myself I would never live in that city, there are other problems that are not mentioned in the video.
@@calloo7843 I’ve lived in Mexico City all my life, but I’ll get out of here as soon as I can.
Facts, Mexican here and I HATE Mexico city with a passion.
it actually does not rain that much, it rains maybe 2 "months" a year. Its not as bad as the narration makes it
Fun Fact: I don't actually know the population of Philadelphia so maybe just say a number as part of the comparison?
They used Bigmac unit system.
@@luc7478 about 50 football fields long
@@gemstonegynoid7475 yeah that works too.
You'd need about 320,000 Toyota Corollas to transport the population of a city that size at once.
@Ro Valero whaaat
Conclusion: Aztec engineers were better than Spanish engineers
i live there, and yes
Word
Of course they were better in their own homeland, doubt they could’ve built Madrid though.
@@anon2427 Madrid is basic AF
All ancient civilizations were better engineers than the medieval Europeans lmao
Moctezuma: Aqui mero construirenos nuestra ciudad (We will built our city right here)
Chichicota: No mame jefe es un pinche lago (WTF boss it's a fucking lake)
Moctezuma: Quedara mamalon (It would be even cooler)
Jajajajaja, justo pensé en eso XDDDDDD
Quedará mamalon
I feel like most people would never think to name Mexico City when asked for the largest cities in the world, but 3000 sq miles is no joke! That's one and a half Rhode Islands! I can hardly wrap my head around it!
And its population of 22 millions is similar to the population of my whole country, Sri Lanka 🇱🇰
Yeah that's huge.
It's not really, that big. Metro areas in Mexico count the entire area of the municipalities that compose them, so there are unpopulated mountains, farmlands, etc. in those 3,000 square miles. The built up urban area is way smaller.
@@PonchoANS7 That is much more realistic!
@@PonchoANS7 dudee it its the biggest most populated per m2 jajaajajaj si eres de mexico lo sabrias jajaj y tiene montañas llenas de casas jajajajaja cdmx o estado de mexico solo tenias que explicar eso si eres de aqui jajajaja
No mam.
The Aztec God watching this: that was my plan since the beginning
Lol
😂
They shall feel the wrath of Huitzilopochtli.
Just as planned! - Tzeench
My thoughts exactly. The ultimate revenge of the Aztecs was luring the Spanish to build a city there.
Dubai: i built islands in the sea
Aztecs: we built one city in a lake 500 years before
A sinked city would be a great tourist place
Mexico City is **sinking**
Most of the Netherlands: ''First time?''
The fact that all the city is sinking BUT the Templo Mayor is NOT, with its mysterious unsinkable building technology, still baffles archeologists.
It's built on similar earthen supports as Tenochitlan's causeways and chinampas, but more reinforced. Actually examining them would be extremely difficult and require undermining the temple, so nobody does it. The archeologists I met didn't seem to baffled- pretty sure of how it stays up, but not 100%.
Aliens
@@ThatGuyUpThere nope
@@soupfan1 YES (of course is not)
Somebody watches the history cgannel
Native of Mexico City here. I've heard some solutions to the problem. One is that the lake must be revived. At least with some little artificial lakes near the city, and revive some artificial rivers. Which is very hard but not impossible. In the 80s a profesor conducted a proyect for an artificial lake, called Nabor Carrillo and it revived the natural bird migration. If we revive the lake to a degree, we could be restoring the equilibrium and water filtration and giving some breath to the water issue. Which let me tell you, is VERY problematic. You have a city with scarcity of water and with floodings at the same time, caus water can't pass the lake of concrete. Still a beautiful and very lovely city ♥️♥️♥️.
El problema es que esta centralizado, debemos hacer que el resto del pais tenga su propio recurso para que la gente no migre a la capital
@@DagazsYT creo que la migración no es solo hacia la capital, mucha gente de la capital y del centro del pais migra a otros lados.
@@christianvalencia4489 si, asi es de hecho como se poblo el norte del pais. Gente del sur migrando al nortre :)
@@DagazsYT Pero tienes un punto, muchos de los problemas de este pais es en gran parte por la centralización que manejamos.
If China can move mountains then Mejico can rebuild a lake…a large reservoir teeming with wildlife ♥️
9:42 that blue car is giving me anxiety
As a Mexican living in Mexico's City, I can say that yes, the geographic's of this city sucks, but not only because of the reasons mentioned in the video, the distribution of the neighborhoods and tracing of the streets are very convoluted, which makes the traffic a lot more messy than other places. So much that the government rely on "innovative" transportation services that are a solution and a bigger (traffic) problem at the same time.
Almost like cities shouldn’t be designed around cars and instead mass transit
Yes that's right, I remember when I went to Barcelona and I was mesmerized by the design of the city. Urbanism done right
How dare you betray us🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬😡😡😡😡🤬🤬
In my opinion somebody should just nuke mexico city and start fresh
ps. di lo que quieras pero el metro y el cablebus me sirven de puta madre xd
The spanish when seeing the aztec capital on a lake: we can do this but worse
Mexico city 400 years later:damn you
They had 200 years to fix it...
@@sopota6469 200 years cant fix what the Spanish did for 300+ years. Plus technology and knowledge of this problem wasn't knowned yet 200 years ago even 100 years ago.
@@scattr7592 But still you blame the 500 years old spanish.
It's disconcertingly impressive that the city literally swallowed a whole lake for its water.
And now, the lakebed is trying to swallow the city.
Actually didn't, the lake was drained by the Spaniards during our Viceroyalty era, also the drainage of the lake was used as a tactic to defeat the Aztecs by cutting it's mobility
Texcoco lake still exist though, there’s actually a project that the president has been promoting a lot, a modern Tenochtitlán
Well that's not Mexico city cause the lake was not of fresh water.
@@jklg3998 Hell yes, they're even thinking of renaming it back to Mexico - Tenochtitlán
That traffic shot at 9:34 gave me anxiety 😂
Back in the late 80's the smog was so bad, that someone there told me that when the children would be drawing a picture of the sky with the sun, and no clouds - they would reach for a grey crayon to draw the sky, instead of a blue one...
The 80s was the worst decade for smog for pretty much every major city
@@euphoriaggaminghd every major city in the Americas and probably Asia
Mexican here, grew in Mexico city by middle 80s. That's false. At lasts not for me, living in the downtown.
The problem that I saw, it was the city, with no trees, IDK why people there hates the trees. You can see in the distance, concrete lost in the horizon.
Sometimes, when the IMECAS were high, we couldn't go outside at school recess, or for physical education class.
Quite often, foreigners got their eyes irritated and cry due contamination, we are used to it.
I leave the city long time back, didn't like the big crowd smashing you from everywhere, everytime I used the subway. 2 hours to get through the traffic everywhere.
@ mexico city is full of trees and nature...
That Eagle nowadays : "I WAS ONLY HAVING A FUCKING SNACK !!"
that eagle is probably dead now
@@_rakshas_ ... It's called a joke, my friend
@@_rakshas_ r/woooosh
@@_rakshas_ "probably" lol
@@Ulissescars not probably but its surely dead or maybe never existed
RLL: It’s very fast”
Also RLL: “Very very slowly”
Well it is kind of fast in geographic standards
@@sideways_chip_eater6420 exactly
It's not common that you sink a meter per year.
It very fast, but you wont see it happening unless you focus on it for days and never sleep. So it seems slow
It's relative
Tenochtitlan was builted just on 194 years, enough to become the most powerful city of the ancient world
One thing the video missed was that when the Aztec arrived in the region as wanderers in the first place, all of the best land was already taken. The Aztecs were pushed to the marginal areas around the shallow lake. It's a testament to their brilliance that they were able to take those marginal regions and thrive, but it's not shocking that there are continuing problems.
"Look around, you're in a bowl. The bowl is gonna fill up, and there's no way out!"
- The wise vulture from Ice Age 2
Your pfp is giving me anxiety. Please change it. You're ableist
@@sm3675 What is their profile pic? What is ableist? What?
@@sm3675 why is the moroccan ableist
Imagine that your flag symbol is a badass eagle eating a fucking snake perched in thorns filled cactus! Now that's a legendary image
Honestly the biggest irony of the Mexica and Tenochtitlan was that when they arrived they were seen as Barbaric outcasts with a Warmongering God and were thusly told to fuck off and were given a really shitty piece of land that was slithering with snakes and they had to make due with their circumstances, they eventually helped overthrow a Tyrannical Ruler who at the time was probably in his 80s to 90s.
They literally became the thing they helped destroy.
No es gran cosa uma bandera estupida con estrellas y ya 😂😂
@@Sebastian-wz4fs ?
@@bujhir6184 ¿
@@Sebastian-wz4fs Porque lo de la bandera estupida con estrellas? Jaja
Really interesting, thank you for this video, even the sponsorship segment brought something good (motivation!)
If anyone's interested, there is an eyewitness account of the conquest of the Aztec Empire. It is called "The Conquest of New Spain " by Bernal Diaz. His memories were dictated to his grandson and have been researched by historians. His memory was impeccable as the geography of towns and layout of Tenochtitlan was spot on .
Read it
On the other end of the spectrum, metropolises built in deserts where people are shocked when there's a water shortage.
What? In las vegas? No.
Cape Town: ah, right.
This is part of the reason why we need more sustainable, hopefully cheaper energy sources, and a lot of it; because most places aside from the Great Lakes will likely have to purify seawater at some point, and fossil fuels won’t be helpful at all for that.
Or starving in Africa, the dead dry part of the earth. Oh no!, anyways, we gonna live here forever and then make the rest of the world feel guilty for us.
Phoenix is the epitome of that problem, worse than even Las Vegas and Southern California. Hundreds of miles from the nearest major water source, and unlike Southern California where the aquaducts are gravity fed and Vegas that is fairly close to the Colorado River, Phoenix has to pump its water uphill and yet has none of the water restrictions that Southern California and even Vegas have.
That is honestly the most insane reason to place a city in a given location I have ever heard.
Look at the bright side, Mexican flag looks pretty cool because of that.
That's why living in the Mexico City outskirts (like Ecatepec) is basically live in the Mad Max world
Its on our flag lol
its just mythology, the real reason is they were nomads and had no where else to live but in that lake, the tribes who lived in solid ground were too strong to defeat, having no more option but the islands in the lake which where full of cactuses and snakes, hence the symbolism.
@@anthonycabrera5474 Italy's flag resembles it.
11:00 Pushing Mexico city somewhere else just isn't really feasible.
Patrick: Let me introduce myself.
Stupidity in nutshell:
Step 1: drain the lake
Step 2: oh god, we have no watersupply.
Nevada, California and Arizona want a word with you 🗿
City skyline in a nutshell
Step 1.5 build the City where the lake was so the water can't return
The problem is overpopulation, not the draining of the lake. Resettle the majority of the inhabitants into new towns and villages, and all of it's problems go away.
@@Cyricist001 yeah right, just tell 22 million people to go work on a farm or something
I was feeling sort of depressed. And now, as a Mexican, watching the beginning of this video I feel justified in my depression. Thanks, RealLifeLore!
😂
@d R Also, in Mexico, there are fewer species of *needlessly murderous wildlife* 😅😔
@d R And the fact that they even have the opportunities to build inland cities. Aussied can't relate
@d R Thanks!
dont worry man, you may have been born too late to fight against the spaniards and too early to see the return of the Quetzalcoatl, but you are just in time to help Mexico in any way possible
Firsf time I went to Mexico City I was mind blown by just how big it is.
Since it's shaped kinda like a bowl and if you were high up enough you could see miles and miles of arquitecture all around you
An abomination. We're not meant to live this many in such a concentrated area.
It's spelled architexture
@@sbs3003ses architecture*
Yeah I spelled it how It's spelled in Spanish lol
meh, I dated a mexican before and he said mexico city sucks more than New York.
I want to go lol
@@TheQuota2001 yep, it sucks and smells like sewage
As a Mexican, i can confirm Mexico City is like a reverse Jenga game where you build the most stuff before an earthquake destroys Mexico City for the 69th time.