What a lot of people don’t realize is Venice was one of the largest cities in Europe up until the start of he 19th Century. It’s not just a tony tourist destination but the capital of one of Europe’s greatest Republics and Empires in history. It lasted for a thousand years until Napoleon.
Side note: Venice itself (the islands) only has 55k inhabitants. The other 200k live in the mainland (which counts as the same municipality), where tourists don't go
When I visited Venice about a decade ago, I noticed that nearly all the people working in the restaurants, water taxis, hotels etc, probably did not live in the city itself. Too expensive. Those who are fortunate enough to actually have their residence in the city, must be rather rich.
@@AudieHolland yes and no. Yes, living in the islands is more expensive, but not MUCH more than the mainland (unless you want to buy a house). So, no, you don't need to be rich to live there. Many people just move to the mainland because life is easier there. Less bridges to cross, less tourists, more and bigger supermarkets, bigger houses, etc. So, overall, it's a combination of cost of living and convenience.
In fact, Venice is brilliantly placed, which is the reason why it became a major naval power and one of the richtest countries in Europe. During the Age of Migration, Germanic tribes pillaged the Italian cities many times. Thanks to its location within a swamp, Venice was easy to defend and was never sacked.
idk if you actually watched the video but RealLifeLore literally covered all of that and more in the first half of the video... Yes that's true, but in the context of modern day Venice it's literally sinking and flooding because of it's location.
tbh, I would disagree. a very well defended island like Sicily, Corsica, Crete or Cyprus would be almost impossible to conquer by any Medieval Age foreign power. Mongol Empore also tried to invade Japan 2 times but have failed. but the Japanese were also somewhat lucky because of the crazy storms that destroyed most of Mongol ships. so there was no crazy battle between the Samurai and Mongols worthy of having a cool movie made to watch in the cinema.
@@LevisH21 And where is the contradiction to what I wrote? It is a fact that Venice flourished, while much older cities in that area from Roman times, like Verona and Padua, fell into insignificance.
@@Nikioko my main point was a very well defended ISLAND is impossible to conquer by any foreign superpower of the Medieval Age. I'm not talking about some city that is on the mainland continent.
It's seriously risking to disappear due to climate fucking change. Still believe venice is such a good city now? And they are trying to build some wall, but italians are italians and they are doing a shitty job...
I would argue Venice HAD an amazing location, but the location lost all of its bonuses and buffs in late game. At least it's not Genoa, Venice's far less mentioned rival.
The irony: Venice used to actually raise its buildings every few decades, but about 400 years ago the buildings became "culturally significant" and so that process stopped. Once the buildings were no longer being lifted, it sealed the cycle of flooding that was then made worse by other factors/decisions.
@@Mr_Bubbaz. Not actually raising, more like abbandoning the bottom floor and building an extra floor on top (From what I know on the topic, I may be wrong)
I recently visited Venice. The current population is around 50k while the rest lives in mainland. A lot of families are leaving Venice due to rising rents. One tourist guide even told me that seeing kids playing on the streets of Venice is very rare.
@@Rando_Shyte it’s an assumption yes, but it’s promoted as “the social norm”: house, marriage, kids. Otherwise you’re ostracized and looked at as abnormal, let’s be honest
Actually, the 260k population figure is quite misleading. It represents the population of the whole Venice metropolitan area, much of which is actually built on the mainland, with regular streets and cars (source: I live there). The population of the historic city is less than 60k people, ever decreasing because of insanely high rents and the difficulties of living in such a peculiar place. Even people who would like to continue living there are often forced to move on the mainland because they just cannot afford otherwise. So all the percentages quoted in the videos are 4x higher, which is even more impressive.
And I thought all of the city is without cars, not only the island part. But apparently no city nowadays can be free from that inherently non-urban mode of transportation. I wish at least one city in the world finally replaces all cars with other options
@@KateeAngel wtf you talking about...countless countries and cities don't have cars/private vehicles...but you can't do anything about the fact of hauling goods/products. You're soo closed minded you don't realize that over 70 countries of the 200+ don't have vehicles in general. Besides walking, bicycles and motorcycles are the most popular forms of transportation worldwide. Vehicles are more of a Chinese, America, Russian, Japanese, Indian problem
@@brucebonner3491 First you say "countless countries and cities don't have cars/private vehicles", then you say - "70 countries of the 200+ don't have vehicles in general". So can you count them or not? Ether this is very poorly phrased or misquoted or just plainly not true. Even if you change the word vehicles, to cars, I still can't see that being correct. Do you have a source for that? And this bit leaves out Australia and New Zealand, as well as Korea and many European countries - "Vehicles are more of a Chinese, America, Russian, Japanese, Indian problem"
7:59 Correction: Vasco da Gama didn't discover the Cape of good hope. It was discovered long ago and a main obstacle for the Portuguese for some time. It was known as the Cape of torments. Eventually Bartolomeu Dias managed to cross it and it became the Cape of Good Hope, opening the way for Vasco da Gama who was the first european to reach India by boat.
Actually Dias discovered it for Europe. The name he gave it, Cabo de Tormentas, means "Cape of Storms." The Portuguese had more trouble with Cape Bojador in Western Sahara because the winds near the coast are unfavorable for a return trip. It was finally discovered you can sail back if you go well out to sea.
To be perfectly pedantic none of these guys ever discovered anything that hadn‘t already been seen by other humans. They just vandalized anywhere they went with fabric logos and made up names :)
@@disklamer Just because other humans already saw it doesn't mean it's not a discovery. If you find an ancient chest full of treasure you effectively discovered it. If the europeans found the Americas which were not known to them at the time, they discovered them. Many uninhabited arquipelagos like Madeira and Azores were also discovered.
@@brunoalves-pg9eo The consequences slightly vary between different discoveries. “Discovering” continents has invariably led to wholesale genocide, as opposed to discovering your toesies as a wee one, hence my reservations with regards to the terminology.
It's ironic how Venice was once great at keeping people who didn't live there out for strategic reasons but now one of its biggest problems is too many foreign visitors coming in at a time
I "love" how in every single "italian/greek related" videos from abroad there's always the same "totally unrelated" to the whole culture theme song with lute/mandolin.
Was in Venice one month ago. It’s a magnificent city of unmatched beauty. It’s a unique city in the world. Hope the Italians can find a way around the drowning problem and preserve this jewel of North Italy 🇮🇹 Greetings from Greece to all the Italians
I think it ' s better if they block all but one of the passageways to seas so that barely any outside-water comes in, and the only way combating the garbage inside and the bad smells is to clean up all the garbage from the lagoon, make a canal for the cargoships in the industrial district north-west of the city and sort of make the lagoon a lake. That ' s, i think, the smartest and creative solution for this threat.
@@jovan-noble-guy749 the exchange of water between the sea and the lagoon is essential for its survival. The lagoon of Venice is not simply a body of water around the city, it’s a very important spot of biodiversity, being the largest lagoon in the whole Mediterranean Sea.
How deep is the bedrock? Jack the city up from the mud up. It would cost 100s of billions, but would preserve the city no matter how high the sea level. First drive tens of thousands of piles around the city, then you create a tunnel grid underneath the city, and create a thick reinforced concrete lattice for the next step. Inject slurry at very high pressures to gradually raise the city over years and decades.
If Venice was an inland city, I doubt it would have been this popular. Edit: Besides, the city was built in the sea for defence. So the city would have been long sacked and stripped of its riches otherwise. In that sense, during its golden age, Venice's geography was perfect.
Hello from New Orleans! I can certainly sympathize with chronic flooding. My childhood subdivision was built on "reclaimed" land and as time progressed the pumps would be more frequently out-paced and the roads were getting more prone to turning into a shallow river. The swamp reclaims all.
Song lines from two iconic Canadian bands: “If Venice is sinking, I’m going under” -Spirit of the West “New Orleans is sinking man and I don’t wanna swim” -The Tragically Hip
@@Sava.S Yeah, the Dutch are good at that sort of stuff, but no one's ever managed to control mother nature, the Dutch would only delay the inevitable.
La Sereníssima was supremely well positioned to be at the western end of the Silk Road & bring luxury goods into the center of Europe. Another plus was that Venice was the cleanest city in Europe because its sewerage was flushed out to sea twice a day with the tides. They did suffer harshly from being the natural entry point of the plagues.
Venicians must have absolutely loved the lockdown, where their city was finally quiet. I'd honestly loved to her a local talk about how much they enjoyed it.
It was nice for the first 2 weeks, then it became quite creepy. The streets were completely empty, especially in the most touristy area, not a sound nor a footstep. What many people fail to understand is that Venice has never been a “quiet place”: it was the capital of a large maritime empire, a trading hub, a cultural and artistic hotspot; it was for centuries the 3rd largest city in Europe, it had a peak of 300.000 inhabitants, plus all the visitors, traders, pilgrims, foreign communities... Rialto market used to be described as the place where you could find everything and meet everyone. While now, there are just 50.000 people living here, mainly elderly people. So, the lockdown wasn’t so enjoyable after all. On the other hand, I’ve appreciated the lack of heavy traffic in the canals, which bought back a lot of wild animals in the city.
@@nicolascarpa638 this is similar to how Edinburgh felt, it was like walking around before anyone else was awake, but Edinburgh can be a creepy place and supposedly very haunted!! I quite liked having no tourists last year though it was nice seeing the gardens stay healthy for a whole year
@@nicolascarpa638 Before the pandemic I had to go to hospital in London a lot, it was about a 15-20 walk from my station so I walked as its along the river. (Very touristy part as its South Bank) which had National theatre, Tate Modern, Shakespeares Globe Theatre & starts just after Houses of Parliament (Big Ben)) My 1st one as the lockdown was ending. It was empty, it was so beautiful.
Venice became rich because of its monopoly for Silk Road trade. That's why Portugal and Spain tried to bypass that monopoly by finding alternative trade routes with India and China.
That's not true but the actual history behind it is really interesting Venice did become rich because of silk road trade and more generally the trade around the Mediterranean but nowhere close to a monopoly especially considering how adversarial they were with the Ottomans, the legitimate controller of the link to the silk road in Europe which gave them a Monopoly. What caused Spain and Portugal to look for the new world was because the Ottomans controlled Constantinople the focal point of silk road trade to Europe and so just to get the luxury goods they were looking for they would directly have to trade with a heretic foreign power. Situation is still much more complicated than what I explained but I hope this helps
@@salmoneysca True that, during the time of the Byzantine Empire, the Silk Road used to travel overland across the Persian territories and reach Antioch (modern day Antakya in Turkey), from where ships would travel to Constantinople and other parts of the Mediterranean sea, carrying out trade. Venice, being halfway across the Mediterranean sea, served as an ideal drop off and resupply point, which gave it the power in the Mediterranean region.
The geography actually made the city, and helped it flourish for 800+years. Quite unfortunate how that changed, but overall I wouldnt say it sucked in the grand scheme of things.
Italy wasn't really nerfed. It's still strong. Large mountains, harbors on both sides, the land routes are only from the top through mountains. The most vunrable route leading to Croatia and Slovenia. Which is still incredibly defensible. If it wasn't for German tribes parting up itally and afterwards principalities deviding itally for centuries, invaders would have a much larger problem with invading throughout history of itally would just be one country like Spain. Meanwhile itally is great at projecting power. Throughout history there have been many countries plagued by itally. If just a city can conquer a quarter of the Mediterranean. The Milanese were mercenaries everywhere including Russia. The Romans existed. Mussolini could invade Africa but the allies had a terrible time invading itally.
Lol yes historically speaking it's actually a very well placed city. Protected by lagoons making it difficult to conquer, close to Italy, France, Germany, it was a natural passing point of europe for the trade with the east. It isn't without reason why Venice became the most powerful merchant republic.
I was in Venice during those 4 of the worst 10 floods ever in November 2019. It was really tragic watching the local stores loosing their stock and cleaning out their shops four times in a week.
It was the war between Genoa and Venice that lead to Columbus looking for an alternate route. When they made peace CC was left with no funding and so hit up the Spanish King and Queen.
And lets remember that genoa (always forgottent when we talk about mediterranean powers) won several wars against venice, from the 13th to the 15th genoa was way weathier than venice, venician power reached his hight because they signed a treaty with the ottomans and genoa was cutted off from trading in the eastern mediterranean
@Paul Powell: During my trip to northern Italy in 1989, I met someone from Genoa whose home dialect sounded just like Spanish to me. I've since concluded that was probably the reason why Christopher Columbus got along so well with the Spanish King and Queen. 🤔
As a Venetian, I loved this video. I have to point out a couple of things though: 0:25 The Municipal border of Venice include Mestre (a city on the mainland), other islands like Murano and Lido. The residents in the actual city surrounded by water are only 50'000. This also means that all the ratios tourist/resident in the videos are actually higher. 3:15 I see you are a man of culture (Civilization) as well
I know I will sound like a Lunatic, but it seems that the only save la Serenissima is "put it all on boats". (When I was a kid I actually thought the city was floating) What do you think Mio amici?
@@marinarosario8855 The idea itself is not wrong but it would be impractical to say the least. I won't even try to explain why (expense, safety, risk of damagin builing, lack of sufficient technology...) The Venetians would be better off installing waterpumps (like in the Dutch polders) and seal the lagoon when the sea tides are strongest.
@@minkyone the final solution for Venice will be similar to Dutch land that is under sea level and artificial canals. First you will totally drain the lagune and seal it from sea and then you will build canals to the sea and artificial lake with the Venice in the middle. All ships will have to travel through canals that will lower/raise them from sea to lake level and back to the sea level. You will see it in few decades...
@@tongobong1 the problem in your solution is the corruption, if they plan to do it in XX years and for YY €, they will do it in XX*2 years, for YY^2 €, it will half work and they will imprison 10 people that have nothing to do with the project
One thing I kept coming back to was that the first Venetians were refugees who came to the lagoon for the safety of its environment. These were folks who had once lived in the heart of the Roman Empire, who had to flee their homes as the world around them basically collapsed. They abandon their entire lives and sought a practical solution to their problem and found one. Not only did they find one, but they found one that turned out to be of exceptional advantage thanks to its environment, and this small city practically became an empire. Then, the tides of history shifted, and once again, they found themselves once again gripping to that empire as it fell apart. then all at once. Everything about the city that once gave it power: its geography, its industry, and its culture, is now strangling it to death. It's still happening slowly now, but it really could fall apart with one more bad roll of the dice. The citizens are just trying to live their lives, but it does seem like there's quite literally no future in this city. While this is quite sad, I think that there is a great deal of hope in looking at the foundations of Venice, and the story of its founders. The founders survived their apocalypse, as real and terrifying to them as our own is to us. They survived because they focused on their environment: they assess their surroundings and choose a location that was not only safe, but also in a truly excellent position given their new circumstances, and it allowed them to direct their own fate for centuries. The modern day Venetians might very well have to abandon their city, and with their loss, the loss of a cultural artifact of incalculable value, as did their ancestors. Venetians survived and then grew to thrive before, who's to say they couldn't do it again in a new place? Perhaps, we shouldn't view this as the ending of the story of Venice, but as the beginning of another chapter in their history.
I am a Venetian. The actual population of Venice city center has only actually 40 000 citizens, not 260 000. During the peak periods (in summer) there are around 200 000 /250 000 tourists per day in venice center. It means that for every 1 Venetian there are over than 5 tourists walking and crowding the streets😱😱
@@agiosromylos1315 Nero was ginger 'cause he was a Celt. Before he was born Celts sacked Rome. They were around and left their demographic mark. When an ancient says that Augustus had light hair, neo-Nazis like you who covet the glory of ancient Greece and Rome pretend that it proves he was blond when the CONTEXT proves he was just OLD which makes black hair lose its darkness.
@@agiosromylos1315 150,000 is a huge LIE since that doesn't even cover the Goths, let alone also the Celts, Lombards, Germans, Franks, Normans, Englishmen and others who invaded Italy. Ancient Romans said northern savages were taller, so your people are clearly frauds, and you live a lie because you covet the glory of ROMA.
@@agiosromylos1315 Your ancestors had names like Ulgoroth and Heinrik. You with an Italian name is like a black man with an Irish name. :-) Culture vultures. We wuz kangz! We wux emperorz! LOL! ... God punished the pride of the Roman Empire by giving control of its lands over to the savages of the north. You are a barbarian. Know your place!
I was once attacked by a balloon as well. There was this weird tail thing hanging off one and it got tangled up in my hair, so then I had to start stabbin. Then cornpop came and was like “this isn’t happening” and got me out of there
during a study abroad in tuscany, i visited venice for a few days, and my visit unfortunately coincided with the acqua alta (high water). my friends and i wandered through the streets suddenly flooded with six inches of seawater, trying to find our way back to our hotel. as we did, i came across a graffiti message in english stenciled onto one of the raised platforms built specifically for pedestrians during the floods. when i read it, it chilled me to the bone: "venice belongs to the water not to you."
Chilled you to the bone? Maybe that was the six inches of water you were walking around in, the fact that the earth will reclaim the areas humans have taken over if/when we go extinct is inevitable
@@Lhwbakao ah yes, you're so right. i'm actually so stupid and uninformed that i needed a piece of graffiti in venice to tell me that the city is eventually going to be underwater. i thought massive floods like that were totally normal and not at all connected to anthropogenic climate change! 🙄
8:00 Vasco da Gama did not discover Cape of Good Hope. The Cape was discovered by Bartholomew Diaz who named it 'Cape of Hope', before returning to Portugal because of a scurvy outbreak on his ship.
Actually, it was discovered by the mind of an ancient Greek called Erasosthenes who did a map showing the Indian Ocean connected to the Atlantic. Centuries ahead of Porkugal. EDIT: EraTosthenes, not with an S there.
I really really love these new 20 minute or so videos. It literally feels like 2 videos in one. Like with that new Orleans episode too, I think it's wrapping up, and then BOOM, 10 more minutes left bozo. I love it!
Oh, you were going so well. Vasco da Gama didn't discover the Cape of Good Hope, it was Bartolomeu Dias. Vasco da gama was the first to reach India via that cape.
As someone born and raised in Cape Town I can assure you that this place was not discovered by a European. The answer you're looking for is The Khoi and The San tribes.
@@sulaimanpeck5326 Yup, it was just built by Europeans while most of the people there hadn't even invented the wheel or gone beyond sustenance living...much like most of Sub-Saharan Africa Interesting how some of the most resource rich areas in the world had people who did nothing with it. Just being content with sustenance, no dreams, no ambitions
@@sulaimanpeck5326 True fact, but from the video's narrative perspective that doesn't add much, those tribes had little impact on Venice's trade routes. But Bartolomeu Dias being the first known european reaching the cape re-routed the spice trade routes entirely, shifting europe's focus from the Mediterranean to the Atlantic. And changing Venice's history.
Per day. It probably took a few weeks but dozens would be built side by side and moved to the next station. So a new one is started and one is done each day.
@@221b-l3t Not quite. But almost. Keeping ships afloat is expensive, and the cost of building a galley was actually only a small portion. So the building parts of ships were mass produced and stocked. Then when it became necessary to put these ships on water (say a war started and new ships were needed to replace old ones, or expand the navy, or to sell them to a neighboring ally), these could quickly be put together (1 per day is data preceding the battle of Lepanto I think). This included finding a crew, arming and making the galley ready for battle. However most parts, such as the bolts and foundations of the ships had alredy been built and were being stocked. Without such stocked inventory, building one would likley have taken about a week. Either way, Venice in a month could pump out an entire fleet capable of matching the largest navies in the world (of which it’s own was one of these).
@@leonardodavid2842 I don't think 30 ships even nearly cut it for largest navy in the world. Even if you discount the fact that galleys are smaller than ocean faring vessels.
They used to bring wood from the mountains using the rivers nearby as a rail. The place where I live was peacefully conquered by venetians and since we used to bring them wood for their fleet, we used to pay less taxes than other places in Veneto
I live close to Venice, after the first lockdown in March 2020 i decided to visit the city. It was all empty, not even a single boat on Canal Grande. A bit sad but magical! I will never see Venice like that again.
There are ways to visit Venice without staying at the island. Italy has great colective transport (specially at the north), and it can be used to go directly to the old city being in the surrounded areas. In my case I was hosted in Milan and I made a day trip to Venice using the high-speed train. You can see all the important places of the city on one day and also preserve the city beauty, wich can be disapointing due the huge amount of tourists. As tourists we can respect this city and preserve it.
Daily visitors are exactly the main problems. They rush to see “the important places”, don’t have time to get to know the city any better than in a consumerist, postcard-like way. That’s exactly what should be avoided; the only way to know and respect Venice, as any other important historical city, is to getting a little prepared and allow yourself to spend the time she deserves.
Interesting that your map of "Venetian colonies in the Mediterranean" also shades the area containing the Republic of Ragusa, Venice's _primary_ but today-oft-forgotten rival in the rich trade city game. It also has a fascinating history and deserves a video of its own!
The republic of Ragusa was temporally a Venetian vassal. The same status that the city of Athens has for example. The ottomans quickly sieged and took it however. I think the status survived maybe a few decades.
@@leonardodavid2842 Uhm, Ragusa gained independence from Venice in 1358. The Treaty of Zadar made it technically a Hungarian possession, but Hungary basically just became its suzerain, the city remaining effectively fully independent. Only in 1382 did Ragusa switch its suzerainty to the Ottoman Empire, still retaining full _effective_ independence in exchange for financial tributes to and promised non-aggression towards the Ottomans. The golden period of Ragusa was in the 15th and 16th centuries, despite this financial drain. I know nothing of an _Ottoman_ siege of Dubrovnik.
I don’t understand people disliking videos, especially when it’s just posted, you haven’t watched the video yet if it was posted 20 seconds ago. It doesn’t do anything except helps them by having more viewer activity.
Well, when the narrator says 1:16 into the video that Venice has been relying on boats for "thousands of years" you have to question the stuff that will follow. Venice was established in 697 AD, which is a bit over a thousand years. Not "thousands".
I'm from Brazil, but I appreciate how you're constantly mentioning the presence of Portugal in the history of great navigations. Often with native English speaking channels they tend to ignore the presence of naval Portugal in history as if only England has done its part.
Rather bold and false statement to make. Everyone talks about Portugal and how one of the smallest and incompetent countries of its time, was also one of the world's greatest nations thanks to the theft of countless lands.
@@PhaRoaH87 What are you talking about? Portugal and England have some of the longest standing alliances. You're thinking of Spain and France, learn your history.
If only Venetians would ask people of Europe's other historic sea-trading, formerly ultra rich, massively overtouristed city consisting of hundreds of canals and thousands of centuries-old brick buildings slowly sinking into the swampy ground: Amsterdammers. Amsterdam's water levels are completely artificial, managed by a government authority. There are no floodings in Amsterdam, neither did the Zuiderzee turn into a stinking swamp as the video predicted for the Venice lagoon. Amsterdam is Venice's rainier sister city. And it already found a solution for Venice's problem.
@@DG_5856 Amsterdam is supposed to be an island as well. The Dutch fought a metaphorical war with the sea, and won. If Venice also enacted land reclaimation policies, it could also achieve what Amsterdam has achieved.
@@DG_5856 you probably can, some of the Dutch islands have extensive areas of land reclaimed from the sea. You could control the water levels in the venetian lagune but you'd probably have to dam it and only allow ships in through locks
Venice is a place of history, I personally can't even begin to explain how much revolved around this city and its inhabitants. Truly hope we can save it
The old town (centro storico) of Venice has a population of 53,000, and is the only place where tourists go. The County of Venice (Comune) has 250,000 because it incudes the ''Continental part'' (terraferma) of Mestre.
I lived in Miami, so devoid of history. It was part of the Spanish Empire but at the time was not developed, as St. Augustine was more important. On the internet, I communicated with a guy from Athens. He wished he was in Miami for parties in filthy clubs. I wished I was in Athens.
I absolutely love Venice. It is a world treasure. Venice is taking steps to ease the crush of tourist crowds. They have banned large cruise ships from going there. That is a good step. Everything that can be done must to done to save the city from the rising water. I was there last for 10 days in 2018. The history of Venice is fascinating, and it must be preserved if possible.
I live there and it's the exact opposite: Alps at north and appennini at south and east. Add Croatia at west and it is completely protected against winds. This region is one of the most air-polluted places on Europe. Hope this helps
Fun fact to miss when talking about this project but MOSE (pronounced MO-SE/MO-ZE not ‘’Moe’s’’) is not just an acronym but also the Italian translation off Moses famous for splitting the waters.
I couldn't believe how badly he ruined that. I read it and immediately laughed at the amazing acronym and laughed some more, shaking my head, at his horrible pronunciation and just completely missing the reference. What a sad moment for Mr. Pisenti here.
I couldn't believe how badly he ruined that. I read it and immediately laughed at the amazing acronym and laughed some more, shaking my head, at his horrible pronunciation and just completely missing the reference. What a sad moment for Mr. Pisenti here.
'hey the water and/or bad weather and/or high temperatures here make this a difficult spot but it seems like engineering can keep pace' *horrible human-caused climate deterioration beyond everyone's imagination* 'yes it was always bad we didn't think'
I'm of Venitian descent so I'll share a quote from my grandfather: "There are some who are born great and others who have greatness thrust upon them. Luckily we were born Italian"
Not clear if he was an expat (which tend to romanticize ties to the motherland) or not. I find it so cringy when I hear these phrases from people here in Italy.
@@mesteme He moved the the U.S. when he was young so to some degree yes; He also had a good sense of humor so while he is proud of his heritage he recognized that there were problems that forced his family to leave--among them the growing fascist movement.
It was one of the very first things I noticed when I walked into my hotel after getting off a speedboat outside, the floor is slightly tilted to allow any floods that happened to drain away, they also showed us their hydraulic pump. I was there for about four days before our cruise left, but I was pretty sad to see that the overwhelming majority of people on the cruise came in literally the evening before or even just came across from the mainland that morning. So it’s essentially being used and abused. Yeah the tourist bring money, but considering how many of the cruise tourists don’t actually spend all that much money it ends up being a problem not a bonus. Plus all those cruise companies play all the ports in the Mediterranean off each other so they can squash as much out of them as possible and then they have the gall to provide their own travel in company so the locals at the different ports don’t get to benefit from the excursions to the fullest extent either. It’s a beautiful city, it’s weird and very alien when you have grown up with cars and roads and streets but it’s mesmerising and sad when you can literally see the water lines on the buildings and you know what the overall prognosis is.
that is the thing someone who goes to venice on say a 1 week vacation while staying in an hotel and eating out every night does benefit the economy. 1 day 0 night travelers don't spend shit. they just clutter a already small city for photos an leave. but I also saw a video about residents being pushed out since if a family has kids those kids wont be able to afford their own housing there never since the prices of all properties are being set by airbnb demand which is massive. and why would you rent to a resident long term while you can make 5 times the money renting to tourist 1 night at a time. which also devolved in many people from outside buying a lot of houses to rent them out on airbnb.
They used to do that (not the same way, but raising them yes). However, since pretty much every building is considered culturally significant they are legally "protected" and they can't anymore.
What about putting a dam around it and managing the water level. We are doing that since ages here In The Netherlands. Ans there are already plans, but Italians and organizing... Not the best combination.
MOdulo Sperimentale Elettromeccanico = Mosé, pronounced "Moe-zay", literally means Moses, like the prophet who parted the Red Sea in the book of Exodus. I freaking love it. Genius acronym 12:48
I'm confident they were "just" completing one ship a day. for example, if they had about 200 ship building faculties, and took an average of about 6 months to build a ship, all they would have to do is stagger the start date and after 6 months they are launching a new ship every day.
@@dscrive it was an arsenal it had every single material required to build a ship and it was all perfectly positioned to take no time to use and the best enginers ready to just simply assemble the ship like when you get a lego set you have all the materials and instructions now all you do is assemble
@@dragnarok4286 this quote seems to line up with my conjecture: "The Arsenal often kept up to 100 galleys in different stages of production and maintenance. That way, once a galley was launched, another could be immediately put into the finishing stages of production."
I have been in Venice at the beginning of November 2021 and one of the night I was there, it rained really a lot and the tide was 130+ cm high, meaning the part of the city where I was lodging should have gone after several dozens centimeters of water. The it was announced that MOSE system would have been raised and everything was fine. From my experience at least, it is working fine.
@@spaniardsrmoors6817 nah its not just maintenance its more like faulty design. Every time you elevate the platforms sand deposits below them and then they can't close ( to clean all of the sand of you need time something venice in autumn doesn't have
15:22 If you've ever been to Venice, you'll know that the locals are already used to the terrible smell of the water in the city. Closing off the lagoon may be worse for the city, but it sure would be great for the rest of the mediterranean sea.
The video forgot to mention the time when Venice pumped groundwater for industrial use, which is always bad for inhabited areas barely above sea level. I think a third solution would be to drill sideways under the city and pumping grouting into it to raise the city back up. It would be massively expensive and buildings will most likely get cracks, but it's either that or the city sinks or stinks.
@@jypsridic The city has existed for 900+ years. It makes no sense to make a new city, when the original city, with so much history, to sink. That’s why they won’t do that.
@@ShipsandGames that's the thing though, if the climate alarmists are right they don't have a choice. If they believe the seas are going to rise then they are throwing valuable resources away to save some old buildings instead of helping their people. The history isn't going to vanish if the buildings do. We have records, we have pictures, we have history. We don't need the physical city.
Don't go to Venice. It's overcrowded and disappearing. Seriously, don't go. You won't be able to see it much longer. It'll be gone soon. Me: kinda wanna go to Venice before it sinks tbh
A tip: visit Venice during the cold Months or early spring, it's a lot less crowded,and you would be able to enter a lot more museums and historical sites but you could also miss some stuff due to the temperature
Aren't people who want to "visit disappearing places before they disappear" super selfish? Especially in the cases when tourism leads to even faster decline (like in case with Coral reefs)?
Henry Ford didn't invent the assembly line, as you actually proved, yet you said it. He perfected the assembly line and vertical supply chain integration for the manufacturing of automobiles.
Ancestors who choose this place: I hope my future generations will be grateful for the place of where we live here Generations now: *WELL THIS IS SUCK TO LIVE HERE*
@@WestExplainsBest There was heavy tourism back then. It was one of biggest cities in Europe, at the center of one the worlds biggest trade empires. Everyone was constantly visiting the city for over 1,000 years.
I can’t even believe you dropped a SpongeBob reference in an otherwise dense video about politics, geography, economics, ecology and environment. Made the video that much better honestly.
those huge cruise ships that got banned from going through a very specific location need to be banned from way more places. not only is the displaced water and wake from them an issue, but the soot and pollution those diesel generators produce are choking places like venice and norway
Also the passengers feed and sleep on their ships, denying Venitian restaurants and hotel any income but costing the city for trash removal, public conveniences, and the wear and tear caused by their numbers.
Cruise ships are just the worst thing to happen to any tourist heavy coastal city, thousands of passengers that crowd the streets at once and contribute much less economically since they have all amenities onboard already.
México city: finally, a worthy opponent, our battle will be..........Daaaaaaamn., Are you allright!? Well, i guess Venice will be destroyed by the water and México's city by the fire. Why? Well, we also have 8 volcanoes near the city: Xitle, Pelado, Teuhtli, Chichinautzin, Cuauhtzin, Tláloc, Guadalupe and Ajusco. Oh, and don't forget the Popocatépetl
The history of Venice made me think of assassins creed, where your goal is to basically massacre the Doge Family. It's a beautiful city. Crowded and expensive as hell though.
This wondeful Republic from the fall of Western Roman Empire enjoyed centuries of prosperity and prominence. Untill a young Corsican who claimed to be average height came with a French army and ended it.
Napoleon Bonaparte was truly a manifestation of arrogance born out of perceived military genius, expertise in statesmanship and ambitions. He relentlessly ravaged Europe, North Africa and Western Asia in wars of vanity. Though the part about him 'claiming to be of average height' is actually true - well, even slightly taller. French pre-metric feet were actually longer than the British standard, so his 5'2" was actually closer to 5'7" in the commonly accepted imperial system, when the average man then was at least an inch or two shorter due to poor nutrition by modern standards. It just didn't help his Old Guard were all 6'+ men surrounding him XD
What not many might know is that lagoons and the river debris deposits filling them are what lead to the formation of the plains of northern Italy, which 200k ago was a shallow sea surrounded by mountains everywhere but the east Venice’s lagoon is one of three currently existing in northern Italy The natural process in that area of Italy would be the lagoon filling up, only for the river debris from the new estuaries forming a new protective bank and a new lagoon Until the Republic of Venice did the works to divert the rivers, there were 5 which ended inside the lagoon!
we actually proposed it, and with a project they use and that was way less expensive of the MoSE system. but it was not a decision made by our city council: the Central goverment did it and imposed it to us. tons of money and still it doesn't work right
Hey, Portuguese here. Minor correction regarding the portuguese discovery of the sea route to India. The first rounding of the Cape of Good Hope was in 1488 by the Portuguese explorer, Bartolomeu Dias. Vasco da Gama, in his voyage to India, rounded the cape in November 1497, and later reached India in May 1498. So, Vasco da Gama was the first to discover and navigate the sea route to India, but he wasn't the first to round the Cape of Good Hope. PS: great video nonetheless
Venice is absolutely lovely and much more economical to visit in November and December. It rains a lot, but most of the tourists are gone then. And with MOSE working now, hopefully, floods will not be that much of a problem. And by the way, tourists mainly stick to the center, San Marco etc. Just a few streets away, Venice can be pretty calm. So just put on some good walking shoes, and discover the city on foot, as one should.
this is true. there are two main routes to San MArco from the railway station: but if you take the docks (westward) route or the cannaregio+ castello exiting on Riva Degli Schiavoni you can avoid the crowd. you can also take a ferry form the Airport Marco Polo or Punta Sabbioni.
I'd love to see a follow-up video on what effects overtourism have on Venice's gepography problems. The video mentions the problem quite often, but I fail to see how it contributes to increased flooding.
Actually no. There is already a mobile dam sand it works fine. The Dutch did provide a proposal for the dam but it was rejected because the MOSE had the advantage of being invisible when open. We certainly do not want to just built permanent dams to reclaim ground, do Dutch won't really be able to do much to help this situation.
@@Giacr45 nah Dutch solution was better much less expensive and much easier to maintain. For every hour running MOSE its costs 300k euro just in maintenance due to the sand and corrosion. But I guess Italians are too focused to make sure that everything looks good and stylish
@@Giacr45 Bro, we don't just build dams. Look up Delta Works. A project that had to prevend a catastrophic flood like the one in 1953, that flooded almost an entire province. The biggest achievements of that project weren't the dams, but the movable storm surge barriers. Movable, they only close at unusually high tides. Or the Maaskantkering, a movable barrier to block of the port entrance of the Port of Rotterdam (biggest port in europe). that entire project is called one of the seven modern world Wonders by the American association of civil engineers. Believe me, we know more about water management then the rest of the world combined. You kinda have too, when the entire western part of your country is 4-8 meters below sea level.
the population to tourist comparison is largely off because tourists only visit the old city, not the continental part, and old city only has 50K inhabitants
There's a lot of misinformation in the midst though. It's like seeing a polyglot speaking in many langauges which looks impressive until they speak your native tongue. Then you see how flawed they really are, typically. A channel that covers many things is a master of none.
The MOSE system reminds me of the Oosterscheldekering here in the Netherlands, which was specifically designed to allow the unusual ecosystem in the estuary based around ebb and flood to persist. However, that system is meant to close only with storm, rather than any high tide.
@@rachel-po5rm They did, even foreing experts but a deal-breaker point was for the dam to be compact and not visible while not in use. Corruption and bureaucracy didn't help though...
as an italian from veneto venice is part of our cultural identity yet i can assure you that venice is the most anti modern city on the planet living there is pure logistical hell where even grocery become challanging long and arduos (not to mention extremely overpriced) all you can do is walking or taking a boat to go anywhere the only way in or out are the train station or a single road in or out of the city(both really near andreally far from most of the city) just to make an example the hospital is 40 minutes of walk from the train station and a similar time by public boat transportations venice was created to be isolated from the outside world when at the end of the western roman empire people fled the barbarian invasion by taking shelter in the swamps and lagoon of veneto the city was a perfect port for mediterranean commerce and an impossible city to besiege given the absolute naval superiority that the republic had at the time (making it impossible to starve out) and the largest "natural moat" of any city on the planet (protecting it from any ground assoult and any siege weapon until gunpwder invention and napoleonic era cannon manifacturing) venice was built as a medieval city not as a modern one like many others but its unique charachteristic made it nearly impossible to slowly transform it like any other european city into a modern one for neraly half millenia venice was one of the most populated city of the enitre european continent and really start to lose its importance only with the invitable shift from meditereanean trade routes to panoceaninc colonial ones of the colonization era the city power and importance slowly drained out, its naval power start to pale compared to the new superpowers of spain portugal dutch and british empires when napoleon arrived he didn't face the proud serenissima but a shell, a ghost of its former glory slowly dragging on by inertia napoleon only ended officially a process that was going on for at least 2 centuries and that was irreversable for some time venice kept its population up remaing a pretty large city keeping a population 150.000 people until 1900, but in the last century the cost of life, tourism work necessity and its real pain in the ass living day to day necessities forced a very large part of its population to abandon it th proud republic of 175.000 people of the year 1570 is now populated by less than 50.000 permanent resident a few month ago the mark of 50.000 was surpassed and the count is still declining torurism has given the last hit to the real city, slowly transforming a real city with a living population into a parody of itself and kinda open air museum where in place of houses and families we have bed and brekfast hotels and super rich people that buy apartament to live there their holidays as status simbol venice is a rotting carcass and i say that with all the pain of someone that lives and breaths its heritage and history everyday and that consider it the pride of our region and culture sadly its a fading glory and a cadaver slowly decomposing also keep in mind that the numbers cited into the video of more that 250.000 people in 2019 is complete bullshit and refers not to its actual inhabitans but to all the people that lives inte Metropolitan area of the city of Venezia that's include for example the entire inland territories and cities outside the historical lagunar historical medieval city. big cities like Mestre and smaller ones like mirano or zelarino the inhabitants of venice are less than 1 out of 5 of the toatl inhabitants of the greater Venice metropolitan area on the mainland
Great video with lots of correct info, I just have 3 corrections. The MOSE system should be translated as Moses, to whom it clearly refers. Venice in not on 1 island and not thousands, they are 118. The migration that founded the city was only from the neighbouring town of Altino. The graphics show the whole of northern Italy fleeing to a village...
I couldn't believe how badly he ruined the Moses reference. I read it and immediately laughed at the amazing acronym and laughed some more, shaking my head, at his horrible pronunciation and just completely missing the reference. What a sad moment for Mr. Pisenti here.
I never knew Venice was actually such a tiny area. This video also explained how Venice had such odd control spread of areas in the medieval Europe that I just yesterday learned from some map quiz.
The map of colonies is wrong. Cyclades, Euboia and all major coastal towns in central Greece were Venetian colonies for a very long time, but they are not shown in this map in the video as such. For example Mesolonghi or Parga, preveza and Tinos were for a much longer time under venice than Cyprus was, but they are not even shown in this video. A lot of Greeks in south, Central and Islands of Greece have Italian surnames because of that, meanwhile Italian words make up the majority of foreign loanwords in Greek language for the same reason At the same time, there is a huge architectural (see Nafplio, Chania, Corfu etc) and musical (search "kantades") heritage in Greece, directly coming from Venice
not "Italian" names , VENETIAN names ! Italy was not yet existing !!!!!!! How much borderlines and "national" thinking of geography can change we see nowadays = Russians think Ukraine is Russian property .
I really like them too. But one thing that they absolutely do not do is "really go in depth" about any particular subject. They are very much a brief take, which is fine as that's what they are supposed to be. You couldn't really begin to go in depth on anything in a ten minute long video.
Why stop at 1 meter? I'll raise your proposition and say raise it by 10 meters. Just lift it up with cranes and pour dirt and sand underneath, it's that simple ladies and gentlemen.
I visited Venice last month. My goodness. What an incredible place. Did you know that gondoliers have to be born into the job? I didn't know that but I learned that from my dude.
Not anymore, they used to, but now you can get your license to become gondoliere (I think starting from 2022) it’s reaally hard though, you must be great at it
I visited Venice 10 years ago in 2011, during the summer peak tourist season. It was already crowded with tourists, everyone bumping shoulders along the main alleys. I can't imagine how much worse the crowding must have gotten now.
telling the truth, only main routes to St. Mark's Square are filled. With some patience and a map, you can walk less beaten alleys and find them surprisingly empties.
I remember visiting Venice it was beautiful but to fall in that water is nasty it stunk especially in the summer, also living there would be so inconvenient I remember there were people who’d fall in the water in winter, also some front doors were in weird places, magical place to visit but to live in would be a nightmare in my opinion
Still a thousand times better than an American suburb where you depend on a car and can't even let your children go to school alone. These ways of living are the absolute nightmare, and I was not even talking about the CO2 footprint yet...
@@noreligionisthebestreligiontrongly disagree. I work from home on a massive private property, am able to farm and produce most of my own food between myself and my neighbors, and use solar panels to charge generators, supplement all power used at our home and facility, and charge our used hybrid vehicles. And we don't live in a flood plane filled with tourists. All kids walk to their local bus stop unsupervised except for other students and occasionally a family dog or older sibling who return home once the kids have boarded. It's always been that way. And don't even try to defend Venice's impact on the environment and world as a whole. The lagoon is destroyed, and the carbon emissions and fuel consumption used by tourists flying there from across the world is insane.
For us Dutch this is just a extra challenge. Soon we will build even bigger water works. Who cares if the geography is not good? We will alter it until it is good.
What a lot of people don’t realize is Venice was one of the largest cities in Europe up until the start of he 19th Century. It’s not just a tony tourist destination but the capital of one of Europe’s greatest Republics and Empires in history. It lasted for a thousand years until Napoleon.
Really?
Interesting
And i thought it was just some piece of land of italy
@@hh-ue8pi you should look up the Venetian republic
Don't read my name*;;@;*@!
Side note: Venice itself (the islands) only has 55k inhabitants. The other 200k live in the mainland (which counts as the same municipality), where tourists don't go
Sono brutti campagnoli che ci vogliono morti!
@@serenissimarespublicavenet3945 mayor Brugnaro get back hoeing the cornfields! Venice capital city !
When I visited Venice about a decade ago, I noticed that nearly all the people working in the restaurants, water taxis, hotels etc, probably did not live in the city itself.
Too expensive.
Those who are fortunate enough to actually have their residence in the city, must be rather rich.
@@AudieHolland yes and no. Yes, living in the islands is more expensive, but not MUCH more than the mainland (unless you want to buy a house). So, no, you don't need to be rich to live there. Many people just move to the mainland because life is easier there. Less bridges to cross, less tourists, more and bigger supermarkets, bigger houses, etc. So, overall, it's a combination of cost of living and convenience.
@@lo8393 really 50,000? That seems pretty small surprising
In fact, Venice is brilliantly placed, which is the reason why it became a major naval power and one of the richtest countries in Europe. During the Age of Migration, Germanic tribes pillaged the Italian cities many times. Thanks to its location within a swamp, Venice was easy to defend and was never sacked.
idk if you actually watched the video but RealLifeLore literally covered all of that and more in the first half of the video...
Yes that's true, but in the context of modern day Venice it's literally sinking and flooding because of it's location.
Huns, Ostrogoths, Lombards, and Franks. A rough lot and a very wise move on the Venetians' part.
tbh, I would disagree.
a very well defended island like Sicily, Corsica, Crete or Cyprus would be almost impossible to conquer by any Medieval Age foreign power.
Mongol Empore also tried to invade Japan 2 times but have failed. but the Japanese were also somewhat lucky because of the crazy storms that destroyed most of Mongol ships.
so there was no crazy battle between the Samurai and Mongols worthy of having a cool movie made to watch in the cinema.
@@LevisH21 And where is the contradiction to what I wrote?
It is a fact that Venice flourished, while much older cities in that area from Roman times, like Verona and Padua, fell into insignificance.
@@Nikioko my main point was a very well defended ISLAND is impossible to conquer by any foreign superpower of the Medieval Age.
I'm not talking about some city that is on the mainland continent.
“Why Venice’s geography sucks”
Becomes wealthiest city on the continent due to geography
It's seriously risking to disappear due to climate fucking change.
Still believe venice is such a good city now?
And they are trying to build some wall, but italians are italians and they are doing a shitty job...
@@no_name4796 You have something against Italians?
I would argue Venice HAD an amazing location, but the location lost all of its bonuses and buffs in late game. At least it's not Genoa, Venice's far less mentioned rival.
@@no_name4796 hey, xenophobia, nice
@@norma8686 the eternal Spanish cope, all their good stuff is built by al andalus.
The irony: Venice used to actually raise its buildings every few decades, but about 400 years ago the buildings became "culturally significant" and so that process stopped. Once the buildings were no longer being lifted, it sealed the cycle of flooding that was then made worse by other factors/decisions.
Huh, really? Guess laws are made to preserve, but haven't found a good way to do it.
Do you have a source for that? I'm very curious but can't find anything online. I mean about the raising the buildings part
That's a new possible fact i didn't knew, i gotta research it
@@Mr_Bubbaz. ^^
@@Mr_Bubbaz. Not actually raising, more like abbandoning the bottom floor and building an extra floor on top (From what I know on the topic, I may be wrong)
I recently visited Venice. The current population is around 50k while the rest lives in mainland. A lot of families are leaving Venice due to rising rents. One tourist guide even told me that seeing kids playing on the streets of Venice is very rare.
I went to Venice last week for 4 days and saw about 2 groups of kids in the outskirts, but many streets were just completely empty
@ghostlyfieldclub2930 that's most of the western world now, birth rates are non existent in europe
@@Girtharmstrong69probably because everything is unnecessarily expensive?? Everyone wants kids, everyone can’t afford kids
@@gg_v2 Everyone wants kids? Making a LOT of assumptions there.
@@Rando_Shyte it’s an assumption yes, but it’s promoted as “the social norm”: house, marriage, kids. Otherwise you’re ostracized and looked at as abnormal, let’s be honest
When you spawn on an island with a single tree
Don't forget the catacomb full of undead beings right beneath ya
Venice is meh
London is trash
Red sus
@@LopianBacon red their
Actually, the 260k population figure is quite misleading. It represents the population of the whole Venice metropolitan area, much of which is actually built on the mainland, with regular streets and cars (source: I live there). The population of the historic city is less than 60k people, ever decreasing because of insanely high rents and the difficulties of living in such a peculiar place. Even people who would like to continue living there are often forced to move on the mainland because they just cannot afford otherwise. So all the percentages quoted in the videos are 4x higher, which is even more impressive.
And I thought all of the city is without cars, not only the island part. But apparently no city nowadays can be free from that inherently non-urban mode of transportation. I wish at least one city in the world finally replaces all cars with other options
@@KateeAngel A lot of European cities actually ban cars all together from the city centre.
Source: I live there ,😂
@@KateeAngel wtf you talking about...countless countries and cities don't have cars/private vehicles...but you can't do anything about the fact of hauling goods/products. You're soo closed minded you don't realize that over 70 countries of the 200+ don't have vehicles in general.
Besides walking, bicycles and motorcycles are the most popular forms of transportation worldwide. Vehicles are more of a Chinese, America, Russian, Japanese, Indian problem
@@brucebonner3491 First you say "countless countries and cities don't have cars/private vehicles", then you say - "70 countries of the 200+ don't have vehicles in general". So can you count them or not?
Ether this is very poorly phrased or misquoted or just plainly not true. Even if you change the word vehicles, to cars, I still can't see that being correct. Do you have a source for that?
And this bit leaves out Australia and New Zealand, as well as Korea and many European countries - "Vehicles are more of a Chinese, America, Russian, Japanese, Indian problem"
7:59 Correction: Vasco da Gama didn't discover the Cape of good hope. It was discovered long ago and a main obstacle for the Portuguese for some time. It was known as the Cape of torments. Eventually Bartolomeu Dias managed to cross it and it became the Cape of Good Hope, opening the way for Vasco da Gama who was the first european to reach India by boat.
Actually Dias discovered it for Europe. The name he gave it, Cabo de Tormentas, means "Cape of Storms." The Portuguese had more trouble with Cape Bojador in Western Sahara because the winds near the coast are unfavorable for a return trip. It was finally discovered you can sail back if you go well out to sea.
To be perfectly pedantic none of these guys ever discovered anything that hadn‘t already been seen by other humans. They just vandalized anywhere they went with fabric logos and made up names :)
@@disklamer Just because other humans already saw it doesn't mean it's not a discovery. If you find an ancient chest full of treasure you effectively discovered it.
If the europeans found the Americas which were not known to them at the time, they discovered them.
Many uninhabited arquipelagos like Madeira and Azores were also discovered.
@@brunoalves-pg9eo The consequences slightly vary between different discoveries. “Discovering” continents has invariably led to wholesale genocide, as opposed to discovering your toesies as a wee one, hence my reservations with regards to the terminology.
@@disklamer apparently not genocided thoroughly enough, gotta do better next time.
It's ironic how Venice was once great at keeping people who didn't live there out for strategic reasons but now one of its biggest problems is too many foreign visitors coming in at a time
Suffering from success
@@cana0 I wish I were suffering like them $$$$$$$$$$$$$
Also they are the main source of income…
This is called -balancing-
trading->toursim
Still waiting for the "Why Prague is the most normal city in the world" video
Henry has come to save us!
lol
very true
Normal? Hell no
it also floods every couple years :D
I "love" how in every single "italian/greek related" videos from abroad there's always the same "totally unrelated" to the whole culture theme song with lute/mandolin.
Was in Venice one month ago. It’s a magnificent city of unmatched beauty. It’s a unique city in the world. Hope the Italians can find a way around the drowning problem and preserve this jewel of North Italy 🇮🇹 Greetings from Greece to all the Italians
I think it ' s better if they block all but one of the passageways to seas so that barely any outside-water comes in, and the only way combating the garbage inside and the bad smells is to clean up all the garbage from the lagoon, make a canal for the cargoships in the industrial district north-west of the city and sort of make the lagoon a lake. That ' s, i think, the smartest and creative solution for this threat.
@@jovan-noble-guy749 the exchange of water between the sea and the lagoon is essential for its survival. The lagoon of Venice is not simply a body of water around the city, it’s a very important spot of biodiversity, being the largest lagoon in the whole Mediterranean Sea.
Yeah, there is, the solution is to get rid of it, bozo. 🤡🤡🤡
Humans when they think preserving some moldy buildings is more important
How deep is the bedrock? Jack the city up from the mud up. It would cost 100s of billions, but would preserve the city no matter how high the sea level.
First drive tens of thousands of piles around the city, then you create a tunnel grid underneath the city, and create a thick reinforced concrete lattice for the next step. Inject slurry at very high pressures to gradually raise the city over years and decades.
@@nicolascarpa638
Just leave it to the dutch?
If Venice was an inland city, I doubt it would have been this popular.
Edit: Besides, the city was built in the sea for defence. So the city would have been long sacked and stripped of its riches otherwise. In that sense, during its golden age, Venice's geography was perfect.
Also still far more popular than Venices in Florida, Louisiana, or Venice Beach in California.
i mean yeah u wouldn't have its whole history of sea merchants at once
Do you realize the total non-sense of your comment?
Damn bro how are you so smart? Ofc if you remove what are you known for you are not popular anymore
@@nicolascarpa638 I don't. Could you explain why?
Hello from New Orleans! I can certainly sympathize with chronic flooding. My childhood subdivision was built on "reclaimed" land and as time progressed the pumps would be more frequently out-paced and the roads were getting more prone to turning into a shallow river. The swamp reclaims all.
Song lines from two iconic Canadian bands:
“If Venice is sinking, I’m going under”
-Spirit of the West
“New Orleans is sinking man and I don’t wanna swim”
-The Tragically Hip
Like the U.S. gummint!
"Except for moving it somewhere else"
"Hi, is this Reallifelore?"
"No, this is Patrick."
"My name is not RealLifeLore"
@@noorulhasan4904 My name, is PATRICK
i am cringing so hard
This whole "Cities your grandkids probably won't see" series is kinda depressing.
Jakarta
@@FlameOnTheBeat Mexico city will probably sink, Amsterdam tho idk, have you seen what Dutch are doing, they are fighting water for thousands of years
@@Sava.S Yeah, the Dutch are good at that sort of stuff, but no one's ever managed to control mother nature, the Dutch would only delay the inevitable.
what about New Orleans
new orleans is a figment of your imagination
La Sereníssima was supremely well positioned to be at the western end of the Silk Road & bring luxury goods into the center of Europe. Another plus was that Venice was the cleanest city in Europe because its sewerage was flushed out to sea twice a day with the tides. They did suffer harshly from being the natural entry point of the plagues.
New Orleans : "Finally a worthy opponent, our battle will be legendary"
A new Netherlands appears!
Except that... It's the opposite
Jakarta and Maldives joining too
The Dutch : "Pathetic"
@@rolandhazuki8787 ^^
Venicians must have absolutely loved the lockdown, where their city was finally quiet. I'd honestly loved to her a local talk about how much they enjoyed it.
It was nice for the first 2 weeks, then it became quite creepy. The streets were completely empty, especially in the most touristy area, not a sound nor a footstep. What many people fail to understand is that Venice has never been a “quiet place”: it was the capital of a large maritime empire, a trading hub, a cultural and artistic hotspot; it was for centuries the 3rd largest city in Europe, it had a peak of 300.000 inhabitants, plus all the visitors, traders, pilgrims, foreign communities... Rialto market used to be described as the place where you could find everything and meet everyone. While now, there are just 50.000 people living here, mainly elderly people. So, the lockdown wasn’t so enjoyable after all. On the other hand, I’ve appreciated the lack of heavy traffic in the canals, which bought back a lot of wild animals in the city.
I think it's a love-hate relationship, many businesses relying on tourists' money were hard it.
@@nicolascarpa638 ^^
@@nicolascarpa638 this is similar to how Edinburgh felt, it was like walking around before anyone else was awake, but Edinburgh can be a creepy place and supposedly very haunted!! I quite liked having no tourists last year though it was nice seeing the gardens stay healthy for a whole year
@@nicolascarpa638 Before the pandemic I had to go to hospital in London a lot, it was about a 15-20 walk from my station so I walked as its along the river. (Very touristy part as its South Bank) which had National theatre, Tate Modern, Shakespeares Globe Theatre & starts just after Houses of Parliament (Big Ben)) My 1st one as the lockdown was ending. It was empty, it was so beautiful.
Venice became rich because of its monopoly for Silk Road trade. That's why Portugal and Spain tried to bypass that monopoly by finding alternative trade routes with India and China.
That's not true but the actual history behind it is really interesting
Venice did become rich because of silk road trade and more generally the trade around the Mediterranean but nowhere close to a monopoly especially considering how adversarial they were with the Ottomans, the legitimate controller of the link to the silk road in Europe which gave them a Monopoly. What caused Spain and Portugal to look for the new world was because the Ottomans controlled Constantinople the focal point of silk road trade to Europe and so just to get the luxury goods they were looking for they would directly have to trade with a heretic foreign power.
Situation is still much more complicated than what I explained but I hope this helps
@@salmoneysca True that, during the time of the Byzantine Empire, the Silk Road used to travel overland across the Persian territories and reach Antioch (modern day Antakya in Turkey), from where ships would travel to Constantinople and other parts of the Mediterranean sea, carrying out trade. Venice, being halfway across the Mediterranean sea, served as an ideal drop off and resupply point, which gave it the power in the Mediterranean region.
thank you for clearing that up, something the video couldn't do
Most of it came from the Fourth Crusade and all the plunder.
The geography actually made the city, and helped it flourish for 800+years. Quite unfortunate how that changed, but overall I wouldnt say it sucked in the grand scheme of things.
It's pretty much like Italy itself, nerfed by patches.
Italy wasn't really nerfed. It's still strong. Large mountains, harbors on both sides, the land routes are only from the top through mountains. The most vunrable route leading to Croatia and Slovenia. Which is still incredibly defensible. If it wasn't for German tribes parting up itally and afterwards principalities deviding itally for centuries, invaders would have a much larger problem with invading throughout history of itally would just be one country like Spain. Meanwhile itally is great at projecting power. Throughout history there have been many countries plagued by itally. If just a city can conquer a quarter of the Mediterranean. The Milanese were mercenaries everywhere including Russia. The Romans existed. Mussolini could invade Africa but the allies had a terrible time invading itally.
Lol yes historically speaking it's actually a very well placed city. Protected by lagoons making it difficult to conquer, close to Italy, France, Germany, it was a natural passing point of europe for the trade with the east. It isn't without reason why Venice became the most powerful merchant republic.
@@Volucrum sure there was cool stuff in the history of Italy, but damn how did the invasion of Africa go? Or Greece 0.0
@@brambram6147 its just a war. there will be more
As a dutchman, I can confidently say that those guys are amateurs.
You should give the government a call then
As someone who lived in New Orleans, the army corps of engineers in Louisiana are amateurs
Needs more polders!
As a Spaniard, I need a magnifying glass to find the Dutch Empire.
@@scintillam_dei I think he was referring to their sea wall and damming efforts, not the empire part…
I was in Venice during those 4 of the worst 10 floods ever in November 2019. It was really tragic watching the local stores loosing their stock and cleaning out their shops four times in a week.
losing their stock? one would think that with this happening so often nothing would be left on the ground.
It was the war between Genoa and Venice that lead to Columbus looking for an alternate route. When they made peace CC was left with no funding and so hit up the Spanish King and Queen.
And lets remember that genoa (always forgottent when we talk about mediterranean powers) won several wars against venice, from the 13th to the 15th genoa was way weathier than venice, venician power reached his hight because they signed a treaty with the ottomans and genoa was cutted off from trading in the eastern mediterranean
@Paul Powell: During my trip to northern Italy in 1989, I met someone from Genoa whose home dialect sounded just like Spanish to me. I've since concluded that was probably the reason why Christopher Columbus got along so well with the Spanish King and Queen. 🤔
@@pablohammerly448 I actually speak genoese and i can confirm that is souns similar to spanish, but i think its almost identical to portughese
@@marcoalmi00 wasn't it the Geneose that ferried the Ottomans across?
As a Venetian, I loved this video. I have to point out a couple of things though:
0:25 The Municipal border of Venice include Mestre (a city on the mainland), other islands like Murano and Lido. The residents in the actual city surrounded by water are only 50'000. This also means that all the ratios tourist/resident in the videos are actually higher.
3:15 I see you are a man of culture (Civilization) as well
I know I will sound like a Lunatic, but it seems that the only save la Serenissima is "put it all on boats".
(When I was a kid I actually thought the city was floating)
What do you think Mio amici?
@@marinarosario8855 The idea itself is not wrong but it would be impractical to say the least. I won't even try to explain why (expense, safety, risk of damagin builing, lack of sufficient technology...)
The Venetians would be better off installing waterpumps (like in the Dutch polders) and seal the lagoon when the sea tides are strongest.
50000 ? Just when all registered persons come for Christmas or so.......living all year long in other places
@@minkyone the final solution for Venice will be similar to Dutch land that is under sea level and artificial canals. First you will totally drain the lagune and seal it from sea and then you will build canals to the sea and artificial lake with the Venice in the middle. All ships will have to travel through canals that will lower/raise them from sea to lake level and back to the sea level. You will see it in few decades...
@@tongobong1 the problem in your solution is the corruption, if they plan to do it in XX years and for YY €, they will do it in XX*2 years, for YY^2 €, it will half work and they will imprison 10 people that have nothing to do with the project
One thing I kept coming back to was that the first Venetians were refugees who came to the lagoon for the safety of its environment. These were folks who had once lived in the heart of the Roman Empire, who had to flee their homes as the world around them basically collapsed. They abandon their entire lives and sought a practical solution to their problem and found one. Not only did they find one, but they found one that turned out to be of exceptional advantage thanks to its environment, and this small city practically became an empire.
Then, the tides of history shifted, and once again, they found themselves once again gripping to that empire as it fell apart. then all at once. Everything about the city that once gave it power: its geography, its industry, and its culture, is now strangling it to death. It's still happening slowly now, but it really could fall apart with one more bad roll of the dice. The citizens are just trying to live their lives, but it does seem like there's quite literally no future in this city.
While this is quite sad, I think that there is a great deal of hope in looking at the foundations of Venice, and the story of its founders. The founders survived their apocalypse, as real and terrifying to them as our own is to us. They survived because they focused on their environment: they assess their surroundings and choose a location that was not only safe, but also in a truly excellent position given their new circumstances, and it allowed them to direct their own fate for centuries. The modern day Venetians might very well have to abandon their city, and with their loss, the loss of a cultural artifact of incalculable value, as did their ancestors. Venetians survived and then grew to thrive before, who's to say they couldn't do it again in a new place? Perhaps, we shouldn't view this as the ending of the story of Venice, but as the beginning of another chapter in their history.
I am a Venetian. The actual population of Venice city center has only actually 40 000 citizens, not 260 000. During the peak periods (in summer) there are around 200 000 /250 000 tourists per day in venice center. It means that for every 1 Venetian there are over than 5 tourists walking and crowding the streets😱😱
Many in Italy are not true Italians. They are Germanics who invaded during the fall of the wetern half of the empire.
How's the life actually like there? Is there any point in moving to Venice?
@@agiosromylos1315 Nero was ginger 'cause he was a Celt. Before he was born Celts sacked Rome. They were around and left their demographic mark. When an ancient says that Augustus had light hair, neo-Nazis like you who covet the glory of ancient Greece and Rome pretend that it proves he was blond when the CONTEXT proves he was just OLD which makes black hair lose its darkness.
@@agiosromylos1315 150,000 is a huge LIE since that doesn't even cover the Goths, let alone also the Celts, Lombards, Germans, Franks, Normans, Englishmen and others who invaded Italy. Ancient Romans said northern savages were taller, so your people are clearly frauds, and you live a lie because you covet the glory of ROMA.
@@agiosromylos1315 Your ancestors had names like Ulgoroth and Heinrik. You with an Italian name is like a black man with an Irish name. :-) Culture vultures. We wuz kangz! We wux emperorz! LOL! ... God punished the pride of the Roman Empire by giving control of its lands over to the savages of the north. You are a barbarian. Know your place!
Venice was the first city to have been attacked from the air, from Austrian balloons.
Yep and was also the first and only city to send back those balloons thanks to wind
Well, can't attack it by land and it's defended via water so where else to attack from? 😁
Memphis during the plagues: What bout us?
I was once attacked by a balloon as well. There was this weird tail thing hanging off one and it got tangled up in my hair, so then I had to start stabbin. Then cornpop came and was like “this isn’t happening” and got me out of there
@@ButtMcDuck Ouch
during a study abroad in tuscany, i visited venice for a few days, and my visit unfortunately coincided with the acqua alta (high water). my friends and i wandered through the streets suddenly flooded with six inches of seawater, trying to find our way back to our hotel. as we did, i came across a graffiti message in english stenciled onto one of the raised platforms built specifically for pedestrians during the floods. when i read it, it chilled me to the bone:
"venice belongs to the water
not to you."
Chilled you to the bone? Maybe that was the six inches of water you were walking around in, the fact that the earth will reclaim the areas humans have taken over if/when we go extinct is inevitable
@@Lhwbakao ah yes, you're so right. i'm actually so stupid and uninformed that i needed a piece of graffiti in venice to tell me that the city is eventually going to be underwater. i thought massive floods like that were totally normal and not at all connected to anthropogenic climate change! 🙄
8:00 Vasco da Gama did not discover Cape of Good Hope. The Cape was discovered by Bartholomew Diaz who named it 'Cape of Hope', before returning to Portugal because of a scurvy outbreak on his ship.
Before then, it was called "Cape of Storms".
@@diogorodrigues747 Dias named it cape of storms and the king changed it to cape of good hope
Right. Their course took a curvy when they got the scurvy.
Actually, it was discovered by the mind of an ancient Greek called Erasosthenes who did a map showing the Indian Ocean connected to the Atlantic. Centuries ahead of Porkugal.
EDIT: EraTosthenes, not with an S there.
@@scintillam_dei that’s called a guess not a discovery
I really really love these new 20 minute or so videos. It literally feels like 2 videos in one. Like with that new Orleans episode too, I think it's wrapping up, and then BOOM, 10 more minutes left bozo. I love it!
As a person living in Venice I'm so upset by the quantity of misinformation that there is, even in this video, about such a touristic destination
Such as…?
Oh, you were going so well. Vasco da Gama didn't discover the Cape of Good Hope, it was Bartolomeu Dias. Vasco da gama was the first to reach India via that cape.
As someone born and raised in Cape Town I can assure you that this place was not discovered by a European. The answer you're looking for is The Khoi and The San tribes.
@@sulaimanpeck5326 I love it when an "actually guy" fact checks another "actually guy." Bravo.
@@sulaimanpeck5326
Yup, it was just built by Europeans while most of the people there hadn't even invented the wheel or gone beyond sustenance living...much like most of Sub-Saharan Africa
Interesting how some of the most resource rich areas in the world had people who did nothing with it. Just being content with sustenance, no dreams, no ambitions
@@sulaimanpeck5326 True fact, but from the video's narrative perspective that doesn't add much, those tribes had little impact on Venice's trade routes. But Bartolomeu Dias being the first known european reaching the cape re-routed the spice trade routes entirely, shifting europe's focus from the Mediterranean to the Atlantic. And changing Venice's history.
@@OuterGalaxyLounge Because facts and being accurate kind of are important on an informational video ;)
A fully equipped ship. In a day. In that era. That is truly impressive.
Per day. It probably took a few weeks but dozens would be built side by side and moved to the next station. So a new one is started and one is done each day.
@@221b-l3t
Not quite. But almost.
Keeping ships afloat is expensive, and the cost of building a galley was actually only a small portion.
So the building parts of ships were mass produced and stocked. Then when it became necessary to put these ships on water (say a war started and new ships were needed to replace old ones, or expand the navy, or to sell them to a neighboring ally), these could quickly be put together (1 per day is data preceding the battle of Lepanto I think).
This included finding a crew, arming and making the galley ready for battle.
However most parts, such as the bolts and foundations of the ships had alredy been built and were being stocked. Without such stocked inventory, building one would likley have taken about a week.
Either way, Venice in a month could pump out an entire fleet capable of matching the largest navies in the world (of which it’s own was one of these).
@@leonardodavid2842 I don't think 30 ships even nearly cut it for largest navy in the world. Even if you discount the fact that galleys are smaller than ocean faring vessels.
They used to bring wood from the mountains using the rivers nearby as a rail. The place where I live was peacefully conquered by venetians and since we used to bring them wood for their fleet, we used to pay less taxes than other places in Veneto
I live close to Venice, after the first lockdown in March 2020 i decided to visit the city. It was all empty, not even a single boat on Canal Grande. A bit sad but magical! I will never see Venice like that again.
There are ways to visit Venice without staying at the island. Italy has great colective transport (specially at the north), and it can be used to go directly to the old city being in the surrounded areas. In my case I was hosted in Milan and I made a day trip to Venice using the high-speed train. You can see all the important places of the city on one day and also preserve the city beauty, wich can be disapointing due the huge amount of tourists. As tourists we can respect this city and preserve it.
Daily visitors are exactly the main problems. They rush to see “the important places”, don’t have time to get to know the city any better than in a consumerist, postcard-like way. That’s exactly what should be avoided; the only way to know and respect Venice, as any other important historical city, is to getting a little prepared and allow yourself to spend the time she deserves.
Or just not go at all
you missed the best part, the sunset in Venice after daily tourists are gone
"at the island "???????? Venezia has more than 100 of them !!!!!!
Interesting that your map of "Venetian colonies in the Mediterranean" also shades the area containing the Republic of Ragusa, Venice's _primary_ but today-oft-forgotten rival in the rich trade city game. It also has a fascinating history and deserves a video of its own!
get going!
Thank you!
And the battle of schrute farms
The republic of Ragusa was temporally a Venetian vassal. The same status that the city of Athens has for example.
The ottomans quickly sieged and took it however. I think the status survived maybe a few decades.
@@leonardodavid2842 Uhm, Ragusa gained independence from Venice in 1358. The Treaty of Zadar made it technically a Hungarian possession, but Hungary basically just became its suzerain, the city remaining effectively fully independent. Only in 1382 did Ragusa switch its suzerainty to the Ottoman Empire, still retaining full _effective_ independence in exchange for financial tributes to and promised non-aggression towards the Ottomans. The golden period of Ragusa was in the 15th and 16th centuries, despite this financial drain.
I know nothing of an _Ottoman_ siege of Dubrovnik.
00:35 It's always fun to see your own city mentioned in a video that's not from your city's own tourism office.
I don’t understand people disliking videos, especially when it’s just posted, you haven’t watched the video yet if it was posted 20 seconds ago. It doesn’t do anything except helps them by having more viewer activity.
The dislikes are from autstrlia bruh
They're from Venice
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Well, when the narrator says 1:16 into the video that Venice has been relying on boats for "thousands of years" you have to question the stuff that will follow. Venice was established in 697 AD, which is a bit over a thousand years. Not "thousands".
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I'm from Brazil, but I appreciate how you're constantly mentioning the presence of Portugal in the history of great navigations. Often with native English speaking channels they tend to ignore the presence of naval Portugal in history as if only England has done its part.
Sounds like someone really hates the English 🤔
I'm so glad ur happy when we celebrate colonizers lol
Rather bold and false statement to make. Everyone talks about Portugal and how one of the smallest and incompetent countries of its time, was also one of the world's greatest nations thanks to the theft of countless lands.
@@PhaRoaH87 What are you talking about? Portugal and England have some of the longest standing alliances.
You're thinking of Spain and France, learn your history.
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If only Venetians would ask people of Europe's other historic sea-trading, formerly ultra rich, massively overtouristed city consisting of hundreds of canals and thousands of centuries-old brick buildings slowly sinking into the swampy ground: Amsterdammers.
Amsterdam's water levels are completely artificial, managed by a government authority. There are no floodings in Amsterdam, neither did the Zuiderzee turn into a stinking swamp as the video predicted for the Venice lagoon.
Amsterdam is Venice's rainier sister city. And it already found a solution for Venice's problem.
Cool story bro
Venice is an island dude, you can't apply the same principals as Amsterdam 😔
So sad your brain is thinking about Amsterdam when speaking about Venice.....are you serious?
@@DG_5856 Amsterdam is supposed to be an island as well. The Dutch fought a metaphorical war with the sea, and won.
If Venice also enacted land reclaimation policies, it could also achieve what Amsterdam has achieved.
@@DG_5856 you probably can, some of the Dutch islands have extensive areas of land reclaimed from the sea. You could control the water levels in the venetian lagune but you'd probably have to dam it and only allow ships in through locks
Venice is a place of history, I personally can't even begin to explain how much revolved around this city and its inhabitants. Truly hope we can save it
The old town (centro storico) of Venice has a population of 53,000, and is the only place where tourists go.
The County of Venice (Comune) has 250,000 because it incudes the ''Continental part'' (terraferma) of Mestre.
I lived in Miami, so devoid of history. It was part of the Spanish Empire but at the time was not developed, as St. Augustine was more important. On the internet, I communicated with a guy from Athens. He wished he was in Miami for parties in filthy clubs. I wished I was in Athens.
@@scintillam_dei not sure why an Athenian wants to move to Miami for parties and filthy clubs, those are really common in Athens as well.
I absolutely love Venice. It is a world treasure. Venice is taking steps to ease the crush of tourist crowds. They have banned large cruise ships from going there. That is a good step. Everything that can be done must to done to save the city from the rising water. I was there last for 10 days in 2018. The history of Venice is fascinating, and it must be preserved if possible.
Fun fact:
the area around Venice (Veneto region ) has one of the frequency for strong tornadoes in the world
Because it’s flat and near cold/warm winds
Yes and then always the moisture from the Mediterranean similar setups like the Midwest plains
How's that fun?
I live there and it's the exact opposite: Alps at north and appennini at south and east. Add Croatia at west and it is completely protected against winds.
This region is one of the most air-polluted places on Europe.
Hope this helps
Not true
Fun fact to miss when talking about this project but MOSE (pronounced MO-SE/MO-ZE not ‘’Moe’s’’) is not just an acronym but also the Italian translation off Moses famous for splitting the waters.
I am so glad I scrolled this far down in the comments. Thank you for this fun fact.
MOSE means: MOdulo Sperimentale Elettromeccanico
I couldn't believe how badly he ruined that. I read it and immediately laughed at the amazing acronym and laughed some more, shaking my head, at his horrible pronunciation and just completely missing the reference. What a sad moment for Mr. Pisenti here.
The type control system’s acronym, MOSE, is also the Italian spelling of Moses (yes I believe it was intended)
I couldn't believe how badly he ruined that. I read it and immediately laughed at the amazing acronym and laughed some more, shaking my head, at his horrible pronunciation and just completely missing the reference. What a sad moment for Mr. Pisenti here.
I love the classic architecture style. All modern styles and buildings are dull and sad
Yes! Architecture was art back in the day.
I worked with my dad as a carpenter before and that gave me such an appreciation for good architecture, which is really rare in America.
Way more practical though
@@alexanderjay4892 and also way more soul crushing and lifeless
@@notaco2huThe US has been on the forefront of architecture in the last century. We invented the skyscraper.
City : sinks
RLL : "Why the city's Geography SUCKS"
When will Real-Life-Lore do a video called: "Why RUclips stinks"?
Venice: *getting destroyed by ocean*
RUclipsrs: “I’m boutta roast this cities whole career”
sinking shitholes is just shitholes
'hey the water and/or bad weather and/or high temperatures here make this a difficult spot but it seems like engineering can keep pace'
*horrible human-caused climate deterioration beyond everyone's imagination*
'yes it was always bad we didn't think'
I'm of Venitian descent so I'll share a quote from my grandfather:
"There are some who are born great and others who have greatness thrust upon them. Luckily we were born Italian"
My grandparents from my mom's side were both born in Italy, I agree with your grandfather's quote!
the hubris of that statement
Not clear if he was an expat (which tend to romanticize ties to the motherland) or not. I find it so cringy when I hear these phrases from people here in Italy.
@@mesteme He moved the the U.S. when he was young so to some degree yes; He also had a good sense of humor so while he is proud of his heritage he recognized that there were problems that forced his family to leave--among them the growing fascist movement.
An artful borrowing from Shakespeare (Twelfth Night).
It was one of the very first things I noticed when I walked into my hotel after getting off a speedboat outside, the floor is slightly tilted to allow any floods that happened to drain away, they also showed us their hydraulic pump. I was there for about four days before our cruise left, but I was pretty sad to see that the overwhelming majority of people on the cruise came in literally the evening before or even just came across from the mainland that morning. So it’s essentially being used and abused. Yeah the tourist bring money, but considering how many of the cruise tourists don’t actually spend all that much money it ends up being a problem not a bonus. Plus all those cruise companies play all the ports in the Mediterranean off each other so they can squash as much out of them as possible and then they have the gall to provide their own travel in company so the locals at the different ports don’t get to benefit from the excursions to the fullest extent either. It’s a beautiful city, it’s weird and very alien when you have grown up with cars and roads and streets but it’s mesmerising and sad when you can literally see the water lines on the buildings and you know what the overall prognosis is.
that is the thing someone who goes to venice on say a 1 week vacation while staying in an hotel and eating out every night does benefit the economy. 1 day 0 night travelers don't spend shit. they just clutter a already small city for photos an leave.
but I also saw a video about residents being pushed out since if a family has kids those kids wont be able to afford their own housing there never since the prices of all properties are being set by airbnb demand which is massive. and why would you rent to a resident long term while you can make 5 times the money renting to tourist 1 night at a time. which also devolved in many people from outside buying a lot of houses to rent them out on airbnb.
Do what Elie Cherbourg did in Chicago: literally lift the buildings off the ground with locomotive jacks and fill the new space below.
They used to do that (not the same way, but raising them yes). However, since pretty much every building is considered culturally significant they are legally "protected" and they can't anymore.
They raised Chicago to install the sewers ,right?
@@dkaloger5720 yes. Chicago was so flat that sewage couldn’t drain. Wendover/HAI, I have a topic for a new video.
Unfortunatly the bedrock (known as "caranto") is too deep, you cannot anchor the jacks.
What about putting a dam around it and managing the water level. We are doing that since ages here In The Netherlands.
Ans there are already plans, but Italians and organizing... Not the best combination.
MOdulo Sperimentale Elettromeccanico = Mosé, pronounced "Moe-zay", literally means Moses, like the prophet who parted the Red Sea in the book of Exodus. I freaking love it. Genius acronym 12:48
The idea of a medieval civilization being able to build whole warships in a day is absolutely mind-boggling to me
You underestimate the level of technology of the middle ages then
I'm confident they were "just" completing one ship a day. for example, if they had about 200 ship building faculties, and took an average of about 6 months to build a ship, all they would have to do is stagger the start date and after 6 months they are launching a new ship every day.
@@dscrive it was an arsenal it had every single material required to build a ship and it was all perfectly positioned to take no time to use and the best enginers ready to just simply assemble the ship like when you get a lego set you have all the materials and instructions now all you do is assemble
@@dragnarok4286 this quote seems to line up with my conjecture: "The Arsenal often kept up to 100 galleys in different stages of production and maintenance. That way, once a galley was launched, another could be immediately put into the finishing stages of production."
Of course they didn't make a whole new ship a day that's very inefficient compared to making a lot of a longer period
I have been in Venice at the beginning of November 2021 and one of the night I was there, it rained really a lot and the tide was 130+ cm high, meaning the part of the city where I was lodging should have gone after several dozens centimeters of water. The it was announced that MOSE system would have been raised and everything was fine. From my experience at least, it is working fine.
It’s more complicated than that
Yeah the mose should work everytime, but it's always in need of some work to keep it functional
@@felicepompa1702 Your name simply translates as "pump" in romanian.
@@felicepompa1702 Duh...It's called maintenance, everything mechanical requires some
@@spaniardsrmoors6817 nah its not just maintenance its more like faulty design. Every time you elevate the platforms sand deposits below them and then they can't close ( to clean all of the sand of you need time something venice in autumn doesn't have
15:22 If you've ever been to Venice, you'll know that the locals are already used to the terrible smell of the water in the city. Closing off the lagoon may be worse for the city, but it sure would be great for the rest of the mediterranean sea.
You close the lagoon and pump out all of the water. Or you abandon the city and make it into a nature reserve.
@@Prometheus4096 fantasy land population: you
@@TRAMP-oline NO, THEY said you can move the entire city. I said that you can't. How is your life in LaLa Land?
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Good for them!
The video forgot to mention the time when Venice pumped groundwater for industrial use, which is always bad for inhabited areas barely above sea level.
I think a third solution would be to drill sideways under the city and pumping grouting into it to raise the city back up. It would be massively expensive and buildings will most likely get cracks, but it's either that or the city sinks or stinks.
they could also just build a new city somewhere less swampy
@@jypsridic The city has existed for 900+ years. It makes no sense to make a new city, when the original city, with so much history, to sink. That’s why they won’t do that.
@@ShipsandGames just pick up the city, and push it somewhere else
@@ShipsandGames that's the thing though, if the climate alarmists are right they don't have a choice. If they believe the seas are going to rise then they are throwing valuable resources away to save some old buildings instead of helping their people.
The history isn't going to vanish if the buildings do. We have records, we have pictures, we have history. We don't need the physical city.
@@jypsridic Though, Venice is famous for tourism. The tourism industry in The Po Valley region would go down drastically.
Don't go to Venice. It's overcrowded and disappearing. Seriously, don't go. You won't be able to see it much longer. It'll be gone soon.
Me: kinda wanna go to Venice before it sinks tbh
Been there on a high-school trip. Amazing city.
I've been there and is one of my favourite city, how can you suggest to not get there?
A tip: visit Venice during the cold Months or early spring, it's a lot less crowded,and you would be able to enter a lot more museums and historical sites but you could also miss some stuff due to the temperature
Aren't people who want to "visit disappearing places before they disappear" super selfish? Especially in the cases when tourism leads to even faster decline (like in case with Coral reefs)?
@@KateeAngel get yourself a diving suit
Usually I hate studying, but your videos are very fun to watch!
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Henry Ford didn't invent the assembly line, as you actually proved, yet you said it. He perfected the assembly line and vertical supply chain integration for the manufacturing of automobiles.
Adam Smith wrote about assembly lines in Scotland about 150 years before Henry Ford.
"perfected"?
Ancestors who choose this place:
I hope my future generations will be grateful for the place of where we live here
Generations now: *WELL THIS IS SUCK TO LIVE HERE*
I suppose that's what happens when you live with a rotating door of instagram posting tourists. No heavy tourism back then.
I hate it when this is suck
This is sucky sucky
It doesn't suck at all
@@WestExplainsBest There was heavy tourism back then. It was one of biggest cities in Europe, at the center of one the worlds biggest trade empires. Everyone was constantly visiting the city for over 1,000 years.
I can’t even believe you dropped a SpongeBob reference in an otherwise dense video about politics, geography, economics, ecology and environment.
Made the video that much better honestly.
those huge cruise ships that got banned from going through a very specific location need to be banned from way more places. not only is the displaced water and wake from them an issue, but the soot and pollution those diesel generators produce are choking places like venice and norway
Also the passengers feed and sleep on their ships, denying Venitian restaurants and hotel any income but costing the city for trash removal, public conveniences, and the wear and tear caused by their numbers.
Cruise ships are just the worst thing to happen to any tourist heavy coastal city, thousands of passengers that crowd the streets at once and contribute much less economically since they have all amenities onboard already.
And the coral reef in Key West.
México city: finally, a worthy opponent, our battle will be..........Daaaaaaamn., Are you allright!?
Well, i guess Venice will be destroyed by the water and México's city by the fire.
Why? Well, we also have 8 volcanoes near the city: Xitle, Pelado, Teuhtli, Chichinautzin, Cuauhtzin, Tláloc, Guadalupe and Ajusco. Oh, and don't forget the Popocatépetl
Mexico City is basically Venice but with fire mountains around it
The whole city is a work of art. I visited as a 9 year old boy in 2006, and have never forgotten the experience.
The history of Venice made me think of assassins creed, where your goal is to basically massacre the Doge Family.
It's a beautiful city. Crowded and expensive as hell though.
This wondeful Republic from the fall of Western Roman Empire enjoyed centuries of prosperity and prominence. Untill a young Corsican who claimed to be average height came with a French army and ended it.
Napoleon Bonaparte was truly a manifestation of arrogance born out of perceived military genius, expertise in statesmanship and ambitions. He relentlessly ravaged Europe, North Africa and Western Asia in wars of vanity. Though the part about him 'claiming to be of average height' is actually true - well, even slightly taller. French pre-metric feet were actually longer than the British standard, so his 5'2" was actually closer to 5'7" in the commonly accepted imperial system, when the average man then was at least an inch or two shorter due to poor nutrition by modern standards. It just didn't help his Old Guard were all 6'+ men surrounding him XD
@@Volcano4981 napoleon was an addict of war
What not many might know is that lagoons and the river debris deposits filling them are what lead to the formation of the plains of northern Italy, which 200k ago was a shallow sea surrounded by mountains everywhere but the east
Venice’s lagoon is one of three currently existing in northern Italy
The natural process in that area of Italy would be the lagoon filling up, only for the river debris from the new estuaries forming a new protective bank and a new lagoon
Until the Republic of Venice did the works to divert the rivers, there were 5 which ended inside the lagoon!
Venician City Council needs to hire some Dutch Engineers.
we actually proposed it, and with a project they use and that was way less expensive of the MoSE system.
but it was not a decision made by our city council: the Central goverment did it and imposed it to us.
tons of money and still it doesn't work right
@@axelfuryofficial8459 good work
Hey, Portuguese here. Minor correction regarding the portuguese discovery of the sea route to India. The first rounding of the Cape of Good Hope was in 1488 by the Portuguese explorer, Bartolomeu Dias. Vasco da Gama, in his voyage to India, rounded the cape in November 1497, and later reached India in May 1498. So, Vasco da Gama was the first to discover and navigate the sea route to India, but he wasn't the first to round the Cape of Good Hope.
PS: great video nonetheless
Been learning so much from this RUclips. Thank you sir
This only makes me more concerned about rising Sea levels.😨
I think many people understand Venice might not be around much longer hence the crazy amount of tourists... just me?
Good. Venice smells really bad hehe
It's said that in 2050 the city could have to be evacuated because it would start to be permanently flooded.
There was a similar demand with Machu Pichu a few years back.
@Hernando Malinche exactly my point
Venice is absolutely lovely and much more economical to visit in November and December. It rains a lot, but most of the tourists are gone then. And with MOSE working now, hopefully, floods will not be that much of a problem.
And by the way, tourists mainly stick to the center, San Marco etc. Just a few streets away, Venice can be pretty calm. So just put on some good walking shoes, and discover the city on foot, as one should.
this is true. there are two main routes to San MArco from the railway station: but if you take the docks (westward) route or the cannaregio+ castello exiting on Riva Degli Schiavoni you can avoid the crowd. you can also take a ferry form the Airport Marco Polo or Punta Sabbioni.
I'd love to see a follow-up video on what effects overtourism have on Venice's gepography problems. The video mentions the problem quite often, but I fail to see how it contributes to increased flooding.
The Italians need to hire the Dutch for help
Actually no.
There is already a mobile dam sand it works fine. The Dutch did provide a proposal for the dam but it was rejected because the MOSE had the advantage of being invisible when open.
We certainly do not want to just built permanent dams to reclaim ground, do Dutch won't really be able to do much to help this situation.
@@Giacr45 nah Dutch solution was better much less expensive and much easier to maintain. For every hour running MOSE its costs 300k euro just in maintenance due to the sand and corrosion. But I guess Italians are too focused to make sure that everything looks good and stylish
@@Giacr45 Bro, we don't just build dams. Look up Delta Works. A project that had to prevend a catastrophic flood like the one in 1953, that flooded almost an entire province. The biggest achievements of that project weren't the dams, but the movable storm surge barriers. Movable, they only close at unusually high tides. Or the Maaskantkering, a movable barrier to block of the port entrance of the Port of Rotterdam (biggest port in europe). that entire project is called one of the seven modern world Wonders by the American association of civil engineers.
Believe me, we know more about water management then the rest of the world combined. You kinda have too, when the entire western part of your country is 4-8 meters below sea level.
My previous Empire is better than your previous Empire. Nuh uh, mine’s better!
:l
The Dutch are insignificant and maybe the Italians can help them with their finances since they have 4X the household debt.
the population to tourist comparison is largely off because tourists only visit the old city, not the continental part, and old city only has 50K inhabitants
I like your videos very much. They have given me so much knowledge. Love from India 🇮🇳🇮🇳
same
There's a lot of misinformation in the midst though. It's like seeing a polyglot speaking in many langauges which looks impressive until they speak your native tongue. Then you see how flawed they really are, typically.
A channel that covers many things is a master of none.
Wait, they're giving Atlantis a sequel?
Great job ,this video is well done
They should probably hire a bunch of Dutch engineers.
THIS
Ur totally right lmao im sure the city will survive just because of what dutch people managed to do
They don't want the lagoon to become stagnant like he said though.
Netherlands has a lot of stagnant brown pools
After what the Dutch did to South Asia?
But then how could the politicians make it take longer, do it wrong and change the project in order to spend more and collect more "grease"?
The MOSE system reminds me of the Oosterscheldekering here in the Netherlands, which was specifically designed to allow the unusual ecosystem in the estuary based around ebb and flood to persist. However, that system is meant to close only with storm, rather than any high tide.
The opponent of Mose bere in Italy keep repeating :We should have done like Holland. Less expensive and more simple to mantain
i was thinking that they should have brought in experts.
@@MegaPino1970
Government corruption for you fam
@@rachel-po5rm They did, even foreing experts but a deal-breaker point was for the dam to be compact and not visible while not in use. Corruption and bureaucracy didn't help though...
11:07 "...and to make matters more worse"? Did the editor miss that one or is that the corrected version?
Oliver Queen would say: You have failed this city!
Water: You missunderstand, I am the city!
Venice before: Wanna sack Constantinople
Venice now: We're drowning
Venice tomorrow: *glug*
Dead Byzantines killed from the sack: Ironic
Genoa: *evil laughter*
as an italian from veneto venice is part of our cultural identity
yet i can assure you that venice is the most anti modern city on the planet
living there is pure logistical hell where even grocery become challanging long and arduos (not to mention extremely overpriced)
all you can do is walking or taking a boat to go anywhere
the only way in or out are the train station or a single road in or out of the city(both really near andreally far from most of the city)
just to make an example the hospital is 40 minutes of walk from the train station and a similar time by public boat transportations
venice was created to be isolated from the outside world when at the end of the western roman empire people fled the barbarian invasion by taking shelter in the swamps and lagoon of veneto
the city was a perfect port for mediterranean commerce and an impossible city to besiege given the absolute naval superiority that the republic had at the time (making it impossible to starve out) and the largest "natural moat" of any city on the planet
(protecting it from any ground assoult and any siege weapon until gunpwder invention and napoleonic era cannon manifacturing)
venice was built as a medieval city not as a modern one like many others
but its unique charachteristic made it nearly impossible to slowly transform it like any other european city into a modern one
for neraly half millenia venice was one of the most populated city of the enitre european continent and really start to lose its importance only with the invitable shift from meditereanean trade routes to panoceaninc colonial ones of the colonization era
the city power and importance slowly drained out, its naval power start to pale compared to the new superpowers of spain portugal dutch and british empires
when napoleon arrived he didn't face the proud serenissima but a shell, a ghost of its former glory slowly dragging on by inertia
napoleon only ended officially a process that was going on for at least 2 centuries and that was irreversable
for some time venice kept its population up remaing a pretty large city keeping a population 150.000 people until 1900, but in the last century the cost of life, tourism work necessity and its real pain in the ass living day to day necessities forced a very large part of its population to abandon it
th proud republic of 175.000 people of the year 1570 is now populated by less than 50.000 permanent resident
a few month ago the mark of 50.000 was surpassed and the count is still declining
torurism has given the last hit to the real city, slowly transforming a real city with a living population into a parody of itself and kinda open air museum where in place of houses and families we have bed and brekfast hotels and super rich people that buy apartament to live there their holidays as status simbol
venice is a rotting carcass and i say that with all the pain of someone that lives and breaths its heritage and history everyday and that consider it the pride of our region and culture
sadly its a fading glory and a cadaver slowly decomposing
also keep in mind that the numbers cited into the video of more that 250.000 people in 2019 is complete bullshit and refers not to its actual inhabitans but to all the people that lives inte Metropolitan area of the city of Venezia
that's include for example the entire inland territories and cities outside the historical lagunar historical medieval city. big cities like Mestre and smaller ones like mirano or zelarino
the inhabitants of venice are less than 1 out of 5 of the toatl inhabitants of the greater Venice metropolitan area on the mainland
Great video with lots of correct info, I just have 3 corrections.
The MOSE system should be translated as Moses, to whom it clearly refers.
Venice in not on 1 island and not thousands, they are 118.
The migration that founded the city was only from the neighbouring town of Altino.
The graphics show the whole of northern Italy fleeing to a village...
I couldn't believe how badly he ruined the Moses reference. I read it and immediately laughed at the amazing acronym and laughed some more, shaking my head, at his horrible pronunciation and just completely missing the reference. What a sad moment for Mr. Pisenti here.
The beautiful thing about Venice is that it was founded for the express purpose of hiding in a swamp.
So dreary.......yet poetic. Well said 🤌
I never knew Venice was actually such a tiny area. This video also explained how Venice had such odd control spread of areas in the medieval Europe that I just yesterday learned from some map quiz.
Venice: oh shit I’m sinking! let’s just go with the flow...
Netherlands: hold my beer I’m coming!
*The old rll is back!*
Was he ever gone?
The map of colonies is wrong. Cyclades, Euboia and all major coastal towns in central Greece were Venetian colonies for a very long time, but they are not shown in this map in the video as such. For example Mesolonghi or Parga, preveza and Tinos were for a much longer time under venice than Cyprus was, but they are not even shown in this video.
A lot of Greeks in south, Central and Islands of Greece have Italian surnames because of that, meanwhile Italian words make up the majority of foreign loanwords in Greek language for the same reason
At the same time, there is a huge architectural (see Nafplio, Chania, Corfu etc) and musical (search "kantades") heritage in Greece, directly coming from Venice
not "Italian" names , VENETIAN names ! Italy was not yet existing !!!!!!! How much borderlines and "national" thinking of geography can change we see nowadays = Russians think Ukraine is Russian property .
@@51tomtomtom i said Italian, because some are Genoese and others tuscan (see duchy of Athens), it was not limited to venetians
I love these demographic videos, they really go in depth with countries geographic disadvantages, science, and how the world can be better.
I really like them too. But one thing that they absolutely do not do is "really go in depth" about any particular subject. They are very much a brief take, which is fine as that's what they are supposed to be. You couldn't really begin to go in depth on anything in a ten minute long video.
Has there ever been any plans to just raise the city up by about a meter to counteract the rising sea levels?
Sir, I am with Harvard and would like to offer you a full scholarship
Why stop at 1 meter? I'll raise your proposition and say raise it by 10 meters. Just lift it up with cranes and pour dirt and sand underneath, it's that simple ladies and gentlemen.
Should we tell him?
@@The_Soviet_Onion I'll leave that to you comrade
How?
I visited Venice last month. My goodness. What an incredible place. Did you know that gondoliers have to be born into the job? I didn't know that but I learned that from my dude.
Not anymore, they used to, but now you can get your license to become gondoliere (I think starting from 2022) it’s reaally hard though, you must be great at it
A whole dimension missed here is the cruise ships and the push to ban them
I visited Venice 10 years ago in 2011, during the summer peak tourist season. It was already crowded with tourists, everyone bumping shoulders along the main alleys. I can't imagine how much worse the crowding must have gotten now.
telling the truth, only main routes to St. Mark's Square are filled. With some patience and a map, you can walk less beaten alleys and find them surprisingly empties.
@@AndreaBorto they also smell like piss tho
I remember visiting Venice it was beautiful but to fall in that water is nasty it stunk especially in the summer, also living there would be so inconvenient I remember there were people who’d fall in the water in winter, also some front doors were in weird places, magical place to visit but to live in would be a nightmare in my opinion
Still a thousand times better than an American suburb where you depend on a car and can't even let your children go to school alone. These ways of living are the absolute nightmare, and I was not even talking about the CO2 footprint yet...
@@noreligionisthebestreligiontrongly disagree. I work from home on a massive private property, am able to farm and produce most of my own food between myself and my neighbors, and use solar panels to charge generators, supplement all power used at our home and facility, and charge our used hybrid vehicles. And we don't live in a flood plane filled with tourists.
All kids walk to their local bus stop unsupervised except for other students and occasionally a family dog or older sibling who return home once the kids have boarded. It's always been that way.
And don't even try to defend Venice's impact on the environment and world as a whole. The lagoon is destroyed, and the carbon emissions and fuel consumption used by tourists flying there from across the world is insane.
At this stage everyone’s Geography sucks😭
Except for Russia during Winter
Australia too
India has all 6 types of geography lol
@@hh-ue8pi not really since most of Australia's land is just made up of deserts
For us Dutch this is just a extra challenge. Soon we will build even bigger water works. Who cares if the geography is not good? We will alter it until it is good.
@@hh-ue8pi Australia is Bushfire Island, the lowest reading on a Fire Danger Chart is moderate followed by high. There’s like 4 other ranks.💀