Why The Learning Tree is Chris Jericho's Worst Gimmick

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    Chris Jericho, known for his incredible talent and versatile personas, has had a career filled with memorable moments and characters. Known to reinvent himself according to the time from Lionheart to The Codebreaker; Y2J to The Painmaker he had done it all. However, his latest gimmick "The Learning Tree" stands out as a particularly misguided attempt for now.
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Комментарии • 471

  • @alifnovaldi5195
    @alifnovaldi5195 Месяц назад +419

    I think Jericho's Learning Tree is the living embodiment of How Do You Do, Fellow Kids meme

    • @chriss45435
      @chriss45435 Месяц назад +18

      makes it even more funny if the rumor of it being a shot at CM Punk are true

    • @DaManWithDaStuff
      @DaManWithDaStuff Месяц назад +6

      I think that’s kind of the point it’s meant to be a parody of the face of the company, legend, babyface who, in reality, is out of touch, sneakily surrounds himself with other people to get an advantage and backstage politics his way into success.
      That’s why he says “that’s not gonna work for me brother”
      He’s also meant to be an anti tweener, the opposite of stone cold, he’s an anti hero who behaves heelishly but is actually fighting for the fans.
      Chris Jericho is the opposite, he’s apparently harmless and seems to give people advice, but when it comes to it, his out for himself only.

    • @arinevermore
      @arinevermore Месяц назад

      ​@@DaManWithDaStuffit is not parody if it is ironic lol

  • @RyujinRoot
    @RyujinRoot Месяц назад +215

    the learning tree is like hulk hogan being honest

    • @zoso7889
      @zoso7889 Месяц назад +10

      Jericho is significantly older than Hogan was in WCW or even when Hogan came back to the WWF in 2002.

    • @Ghost-Face420
      @Ghost-Face420 Месяц назад +16

      @@zoso7889+ Hogan was in much better shape & still looked like a Monster

    • @Evan-dm3si
      @Evan-dm3si Месяц назад +6

      @@Ghost-Face420and his in ring was always shit

    • @LOVRemy
      @LOVRemy Месяц назад +1

      Yall don’t understand the joke

    • @JamaalDaGreatest
      @JamaalDaGreatest Месяц назад +1

      "That doesnt work for me brother"

  • @nycSnowman
    @nycSnowman Месяц назад +297

    Feel like Jericho is trying to take legit criticism towards him and turn it into a parody without addressing the original criticism.

    • @megavolt67
      @megavolt67 Месяц назад

      That's exactly what Vince and co. have always done with any controversy involving the WWE and/or its wrestlers (Shawn's past, Montreal screwjob, Edge and Lita, etc.). It logically shouldn't work, but thanks to human nature, it does.
      Just mock and deny any criticism (legit or not) directed at you until the other side gets tired of trying to get you to own up or they get pressured into giving up by those who are over it. Not to get political, but Trump is good at this too.

    • @LadyAstarionAncunin
      @LadyAstarionAncunin Месяц назад +1

      Hmm. Life imitates art.

    • @Am71919
      @Am71919 Месяц назад

      What good would it do him to address it, if he does, people will just accuse him of getting defensive, it's a no-win

    • @GirolamoZanchi_is_cool
      @GirolamoZanchi_is_cool Месяц назад

      And you will seek Me and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart.
      -Jeremiah 29:13
      “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life.
      -John 3:16
      Repent therefore, and turn back, that your sins may be blotted out.
      -Acts 3:19
      If you are in North America, please go check out any of the churches available to you: PCA, OPC, Rpcna, Urcna, or a Canrc church.
      (These are conservative and actual Reformed/Presbyterian churches)
      If you’re Scottish, I recommend the Free Church of Scotland and the APC
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      -Hebrews 10:24-25

  • @easter_sunday
    @easter_sunday Месяц назад +319

    This gimmick would work if he framed himself as the leader of a school, or the sensei of a dojo and made his students go through a bunch of ridiculous training (filmed in montages)

    • @ThePrangon
      @ThePrangon Месяц назад +10

      Great idea!

    • @suoquainen
      @suoquainen Месяц назад +4

      You mean a similar gimmick like Matt Striker had in WWE? That would be horrible.

    • @BiggieTrismegistus
      @BiggieTrismegistus Месяц назад +15

      I trust Chris Jericho to get that over better than Matt Striker did.

    • @suoquainen
      @suoquainen Месяц назад +2

      @@BiggieTrismegistus Maybe, i dunno. I can't speak for others, but me personally don't like a comedianish Chris Jericho as wrestler. :)

    • @Ghost-Face420
      @Ghost-Face420 Месяц назад +2

      Wouldn’t work either because it’s Y2J in 2024 & he ain’t the same anymore

  • @manbun6441
    @manbun6441 Месяц назад +59

    Unpopular opinion: I like the gimmick. It should have had someone more obnoxious than Big Bill as a member. Big Bill is trying to make it work but still. It should be a fun gimmick but when the bell rings, Jericho should just flat go in the ring and kick ass. It should be a rude awakening, like a warning - "We're being goofy but don't forget what we can do". The gimmick hasn't been around for long yet to be hated that much. The "hi guys" thing is starting to catch on. I want to see how it turns out.

    • @LosHitman
      @LosHitman Месяц назад +8

      Hot take they should’ve brought Enzo amore in instead of Bryan keith

    • @dahvongregg45
      @dahvongregg45 Месяц назад

      I love the gimmick Jericho can do no wrong in my eyes

  • @bass_brommie
    @bass_brommie Месяц назад +62

    The reason why this groups not working is because everyone realizes the Chris Jericho hasn’t made stars outta ppl that joined the faction. He does factions out of his own benefits

    • @jamescopping2231
      @jamescopping2231 Месяц назад +6

      Exactly! I mean look at Daniel Garcia. Khan's booking him in the title picture now, and it would be justified HAD Jericho Appreciation Society put Garcia over sufficiently beforehand. However, Garcia was used as an enforcer/jobber to put Jericho over instead, and when they did focus on him they sabotaged and ruined it, so Garcia's current push seems like it just came out of nowhere.

    • @bass_brommie
      @bass_brommie Месяц назад +6

      @@jamescopping2231 like let’s be real you would’ve thought Sammy Guevara would’ve been a main eventer by now he’s still stuck in mid card scene and Jake Hager basically used these factions to get free money his heart wasn’t I’m even in it for Wrestling

  • @JayL8899
    @JayL8899 Месяц назад +29

    He’s slowly morphing into Mickey Rourke

  • @ChaosSkye
    @ChaosSkye Месяц назад +17

    People are booing, chanting please retire, and even no reaction to jericho. That's really all you need to know right there.

  • @xerobanj
    @xerobanj Месяц назад +98

    All of Jericho's reinventions for the past decade have just been growing his hair and wearing different pants/jackets.

    • @21Arfon21
      @21Arfon21 Месяц назад +4

      The way he acts is different though, Cena just changes his colours and Orton just acts the same no one else currently who's been doing it as long can do it like Jericho

    • @richborn6700
      @richborn6700 Месяц назад

      Jericho has changed ONE time in 2008. Everything else has been variations of Y2J from the early 2000s​@@21Arfon21

    • @yokapppa3292
      @yokapppa3292 Месяц назад +5

      @@21Arfon21that’s a sign that what they’ve been doing is working. Other than maybe a cena heel turn ain’t nobody asking for these 2 to change anything up, let alone retire like they want with Jericho

    • @21Arfon21
      @21Arfon21 Месяц назад

      @@yokapppa3292 because you don't want to admit that Orton's coming back and taking a young guys spot again to do absolutely nothing, he should of retired before he got demoted to the wwe tag team division, cenas only come back and ruined people like theory by saying he gets his cheers piped in 🤣 you just don't want to admit these things

    • @AbbasKhan9364
      @AbbasKhan9364 Месяц назад

      ​@@21Arfon21Well said!

  • @stingrey1571
    @stingrey1571 Месяц назад +96

    jericho is now wcw 1994 hulk hogan. he attaches himself to whomever is hot and then siphons off their heat.

  • @_zeffrey_
    @_zeffrey_ Месяц назад +116

    Jericho should just retire at this point.

    • @m00rtin4
      @m00rtin4 Месяц назад +28

      i see the error in your ways. the learning tree can offer you guidence.

    • @21Arfon21
      @21Arfon21 Месяц назад +14

      ​@@m00rtin4there's a clear flaw in the American education system, the Learning tree has alot to do

  • @joshuamelton9148
    @joshuamelton9148 Месяц назад +9

    What funny is this gimmick was already done in TNA Wrestling with Brian Myers having the Learning Tree stable

  • @CornBreadtm1
    @CornBreadtm1 Месяц назад +10

    Jericho has go away heat and wont go away to get rid of it.
    And nobody gets over by being in a Jericho faction. Sammy only got over and got the TNT title by basically unofficially leaving the faction and distancing himself so far away from it that you can argue that he wasn't apart of it.

  • @R0bbathehutt
    @R0bbathehutt Месяц назад +12

    Jericho’s first mistake was choosing to stop playing Judas as his entrance music which facilitated boos before he even got into the ring.

    • @williamseneyjr.6277
      @williamseneyjr.6277 Месяц назад +1

      @@R0bbathehutt That was intentional. Kinda hard to make people hate you when they're anticipating singing along with your theme.

  • @theatlantean8036
    @theatlantean8036 Месяц назад +71

    Pretending people dislike him for the character and not his actions is straight up dishonesty. People started turning on him when the SA allegations came out.

    • @NoNo-ok1lp
      @NoNo-ok1lp Месяц назад +19

      No people turned on him way before that nice try though

    • @Ghost-Face420
      @Ghost-Face420 Месяц назад +17

      People turned on him way before that, AEW Fans started turning on him when the SA allegations came out.

    • @theatlantean8036
      @theatlantean8036 Месяц назад +7

      @NoNo-ok1lp A small minority did. The chants started after the allegations. Nice try though.

    • @adlilzafri2322
      @adlilzafri2322 Месяц назад +7

      Didn't they disprove the allegations after the guy who made it retracted it?

    • @brentshinn1060
      @brentshinn1060 Месяц назад +8

      @theatlantean8036 allegations started by Brian Alvarez who had to retract them for not being true or credible tho. I guess these days if you get enough clout you can weaponize it and destroy whoevers life work and career ya want . Objective truth be damned

  • @Hedgehobbit
    @Hedgehobbit Месяц назад +8

    When Jericho put over Action Andretti and then immediately buried Andretti on his podcast, I've lost all respect for him. Funny that Ospreay did the same thing to Swerve just last week.

  • @TheJaviferrol
    @TheJaviferrol Месяц назад +13

    Most of his "adaptations" are variations of his WCW initial loud gimmick. The big departure was 2008 and now this. Perhaps the Painmaker as well. Still not sure what Le Champion or The Ocho was...

    • @Ghost-Face420
      @Ghost-Face420 Месяц назад +4

      The Painmaker was trash aswell in my opinion, the only 3 Gimmicks that I enjoyed from Jericho was Y2J, The List & Heel “suit” Jericho.

    • @richborn6700
      @richborn6700 Месяц назад +2

      Someone said it best that all he does is change his hair and jacket. He's the Madonna of Pro Wrestling

    • @fuadnidal3143
      @fuadnidal3143 Месяц назад

      @@richborn6700 noooo don't let him see that then he will use it .

    • @ItsDainsleifDuh
      @ItsDainsleifDuh 9 дней назад

      ​@@Ghost-Face420 His "The List" gimmick with Kevin Steen is far more better than whatever he did

  • @jckorn9148
    @jckorn9148 Месяц назад +6

    I think Cody Rhodes leaving was a sign that something was massively wrong in AEW.....we just couldn't see it yet.
    It's sad, competition is important, it's pushed WWE to be better, no question.
    But WWE is clearly looking to eliminate them, by being so good, not even the hardcore needs anything else.

  • @Murli067
    @Murli067 Месяц назад +8

    This is the best gimmick to generate heat reaction from wrestling fans.

  • @kiritomgr
    @kiritomgr Месяц назад +100

    I thought everyone was loving this gimmick lol😂😂

    • @kirklynncentore532
      @kirklynncentore532 Месяц назад +5

      It would've been more interesting if was in the 1990s during WCW.
      But since it's 2024 it's a different opinionated thought.

    • @capclip9
      @capclip9 Месяц назад +9

      Just about everyone I've seen on Twitter and IRL have loved it
      Even my friends who've hated Jericho for the past 3 years

    • @juniorkhomari1850
      @juniorkhomari1850 Месяц назад +18

      Yeah, because Twitter is a good measure of fan reception

    • @abhijitbhattacharjee7138
      @abhijitbhattacharjee7138 Месяц назад +1

      The lexicon of le shampion ❤

    • @williamkirschenman
      @williamkirschenman Месяц назад +12

      The crowds seem to think differently. How many times have we heard "fuck you jerhico, please retire" chants? Way more than cheers.

  • @wwemasta
    @wwemasta Месяц назад +17

    Chris got exposed in aew. In wwe he always had a filter out of ideas thru vince. In aew there's no filter on what's good and what's bad, jerichos truly not that great, he constantly has to change characters just to stay relevant

    • @williamseneyjr.6277
      @williamseneyjr.6277 Месяц назад +11

      Jericho's been constantly updating and changing his character for his entire career so that's a silly claim.
      And if you think Vincent McMahon of all people was a "good filter" then you clearly have never heard about his truly insane ideas that others had to talk him down from or outright refuse.

    • @joegardner851
      @joegardner851 Месяц назад

      he also would leave to do Fozzy.

  • @ImGonnasayit
    @ImGonnasayit Месяц назад +4

    Love Jericho but he’s so out of shape physically I can’t take any of his work seriously

    • @kirklynncentore532
      @kirklynncentore532 Месяц назад

      It's him or nothing. Chris Jericho is guding offer to the future stars of success but if they refuse he takes the success.

  • @samhainnc9416
    @samhainnc9416 Месяц назад +3

    I think the problem is the inmates are running the asylum. There is no pushback from TK on most wrestlers' gimmicks. He let's the vets do their thing and if it works great if not, we'll that's fine too.

  • @wwemasta
    @wwemasta Месяц назад +8

    It's awful, jericho claims he's there for the young guys but he hasn't made a single superstar, jerichos ego is so huge, he's also a real shady dude because of what he did to kylie rae

    • @williamseneyjr.6277
      @williamseneyjr.6277 Месяц назад +1

      @@wwemasta Allegedly.

    • @pelucheCR7
      @pelucheCR7 Месяц назад

      I love jerichod work in wwe, but all the criticism for triple h now doesnt feel warranted

  • @manmademonkey18
    @manmademonkey18 Месяц назад +65

    I know that I am a simple man but it makes me laugh so I really don't mind it.

    • @brianfinnegan8947
      @brianfinnegan8947 Месяц назад +12

      I enjoy it. The annunciation is hilarious

    • @manmademonkey18
      @manmademonkey18 Месяц назад +11

      He was great on commentary the other night and Excalibur's reactions made it even funnier. Excalibur laughing when Jericho said "That was a DDT!". It got me!!

    • @yazr1712
      @yazr1712 Месяц назад +1

      I enjoy it as well. It would be one thing if it was main event stuff, but it's in the midcard. I don't mind.

  • @Adityasingha9
    @Adityasingha9 Месяц назад +3

    He should do the melted icecream gimmick

  • @Hoggy27
    @Hoggy27 Месяц назад +7

    I get a good chuckle out of it. It’s entertaining enough. It’s just wares thin pretty quickly if the segments run too long or when he is on tv on multiple segments. Less is more at the moment.

    • @BiggieTrismegistus
      @BiggieTrismegistus Месяц назад +1

      I agree that short vignettes peppered throughout the show would work better.

    • @TrillBill
      @TrillBill 19 дней назад

      Same

  • @SamsarasArt
    @SamsarasArt Месяц назад +40

    Jericho's living the gimmick with this one. For most of his AEW career Jericho has been like a vampire sucking away all the momentum from young up and coming stars to remain relevance in his older years.

    • @williamkirschenman
      @williamkirschenman Месяц назад +3

      Who was it that called him a succubus Carney? 😂
      That is definitely what he is.

    • @tedjomuljono3052
      @tedjomuljono3052 Месяц назад +7

      ​​@@williamkirschenman it's Cody, and that's before Jericho even got too stale since it's still his first faction, i guess Cody really does see the writings on the wall

    • @21Arfon21
      @21Arfon21 Месяц назад +1

      Let's talk about undertaker and how instead of putting bray Wyatt over he ruined his moment 🤣🤣

    • @21Arfon21
      @21Arfon21 Месяц назад +1

      ​@@tedjomuljono3052 yeah I think that's why punks gone back to WWE and taken the spot away from all the young guys 🤣 for 6 months made it all about himself not put anyone else over but your happy you can chant cm punk while watching WWE again right?

    • @SamsarasArt
      @SamsarasArt 5 дней назад

      @@21Arfon21 are you on something dude?

  • @RomaroBrandon
    @RomaroBrandon Месяц назад +6

    As I said many times before on RUclips, mix his Learning Tree Gimmick with members of the Jericho Appreciation Society gimmick and have Chris Jericho mold said members into different versions of himself and less people would complain.

    • @BiggieTrismegistus
      @BiggieTrismegistus Месяц назад +4

      That might work. Turn one into a Lionheart Chris Jericho, another into Y2J Chris Jericho, give one a list, etc - change their ring gear and hair to match and everything.

  • @KANOAH.Official
    @KANOAH.Official Месяц назад +5

    I AM A WIZARD!

  • @mee7er
    @mee7er Месяц назад +31

    I like it. It’s a fun heel gimmick.
    It’s such a surreal and annoying way to play the heel.
    If anything I want them to double down and go harder.
    More weird scripted segments. Interrupt matches for water breaks. Etc. etc.

  • @Pierrepaule
    @Pierrepaule Месяц назад +30

    I think Tony Khan doesn’t understand that people chant Please retire or go home Jericho go home and they booing Jericho because they don’t want to see him anymore and I don’t know how Chris is going get his fans back now. Maybe he should go to a trial for his allegation against him to tries to prouve that his innocent and if he really did what he did to Kylie Rae well I think we should never see him in AEW again but man Jericho he as to do something to get his fans back and is not by being the learning tree it doesn’t work for me and for a lot so yeah I agree that’s Jericho worst gimmick of his entire career.

    • @ayhamahmad2277
      @ayhamahmad2277 Месяц назад +1

      It basically what happens to the big show every didn't like his booking

    • @BiggieTrismegistus
      @BiggieTrismegistus Месяц назад +4

      He has go-away heat. People don't want to see him get comeuppance like they do a normal heel; they want to not see him anymore.

    • @GODIAM22
      @GODIAM22 Месяц назад

      @@BiggieTrismegistussame with solo at MITB 🤓

  • @shysgarage2405
    @shysgarage2405 Месяц назад +3

    He is ripping off the Eugene gimmick 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

  • @pouyamahmoudi
    @pouyamahmoudi Месяц назад +30

    Bro changes his gimmick too often!

    • @dSYNYSTERb
      @dSYNYSTERb Месяц назад

      Disagree. Jericho isn't a spectacular looking talent. He isn't a muscular specimen. At the same time he isn't a mega baby face talker like cena or hogan. He needs to constantly switch it up to be able to stay relevant.

    • @jamiek9780
      @jamiek9780 Месяц назад +2

      @@dSYNYSTERband in the process he’s become irrelevant

    • @thaheartbreaker
      @thaheartbreaker Месяц назад

      Lately

    • @joegardner851
      @joegardner851 Месяц назад

      It’s not changing a gimmick. He’s just giving himself a new nickname. LA Champion, the ocho, the wizard and now the learning tree. Nothings different about the guy. He has a faction, gives himself a new nickname, becomes a champ, faction breaks up and repeats.

  • @sonwuzi2845
    @sonwuzi2845 Месяц назад +3

    I loved his List gimmick and when he would call ppl stupid 😂 man Chris Jericho is a legend

  • @ThePhysicalReaction
    @ThePhysicalReaction Месяц назад +2

    He should either retire or take 6 months off to get back into ring shape. He has gotten slow and lost a lot of his muscles.

  • @jamarisaiah3994
    @jamarisaiah3994 Месяц назад +2

    I’m loving this gimmick. “ Hi Guysssss”

  • @CanadianRebel69
    @CanadianRebel69 Месяц назад +21

    I thought same thing. The learning tree is the worst gimmick he has done.

    • @williamseneyjr.6277
      @williamseneyjr.6277 Месяц назад +1

      You must be forgetting about "The Painmaker".

    • @LosHitman
      @LosHitman Месяц назад

      @@williamseneyjr.6277nah Atleast he was having good matches in Japan and wasn’t annoying

  • @AnimeJason2011
    @AnimeJason2011 Месяц назад +1

    This is, by far, the worst gimmick Chris Jericho has ever done. It's bad enough he has to play a fake-ass Mister Rodgers, but banning Taz from commentary because of his feud with Hook, that's just taking it too far. If Taz gets replaced by Nigel McGuiness, I will never forgive Jericho for this. And if those so-called EVPs, "Matthew" and "Nicolas", agreed with this, then they are as bad as he is. For SHAME!!

  • @Number1SethRollinsFan
    @Number1SethRollinsFan Месяц назад +1

    Chris Jericho needs to come back to WWE after his contract is up. Then, bring back Y2J! His best feuds were with Shawn Michaels in 2007-2008 and CM Punk in 2011-2012! He won his feud with Shawn Michaels in 2008, but lost his feud with CM Punk in 2012. Chris Jericho had a really legitimate reason for feuding with CM Punk because he was the first to claim to be the best in the world. I'm not sure why he feuded with Shawn Michaels, but both feuds were fuckin' amazing and Chris Jericho was the heel in both feuds. Chris Jericho started his feud with Shawn Michaels when he smashed Shawn Michaels' head through the Jeritron 6000 on the Highlight Reel. The Highlight Reel was a fuckin' awesome show! They bring Jericho back to WWE and they need to bring back 1 of those versions of Chris Jericho! Either the 2007-2008 version or the 2011-2012 version! Those times were when Chris Jericho was at his best!

  • @EdeSands-do6st
    @EdeSands-do6st Месяц назад +2

    You skipped over a big...big part of the story....that helped him get here🤨

  • @claymathewselevator8121
    @claymathewselevator8121 Месяц назад +3

    Brian Myers lead The Learning Tree first in TNA with Sam Beale, VSK, Manny Lemons and Zicky Dice

  • @swineinbrine
    @swineinbrine Месяц назад +3

    he ate the guy that was doing moonsaults

  • @jimmysteep2813
    @jimmysteep2813 Месяц назад +4

    i think thats his last gimmick last run and he is just waiting for retirement

  • @iambrandojamesmineo
    @iambrandojamesmineo Месяц назад +1

    Ever since the inner circle split Jericho has been on a decline

  • @HeyheyandAwesomedudeutbegaming
    @HeyheyandAwesomedudeutbegaming Месяц назад +10

    In my personal opinion, the learning tree is definitely a bad gimmick but I feel like it’s a gimmick that’s so bad it’s good

  • @abelardions7600
    @abelardions7600 Месяц назад +15

    His current gimmick is even worse than the whole America's Top Team program, and I didn't think that was possible.

    • @LILJAYSO777
      @LILJAYSO777 Месяц назад +1

      Nah this gimmick is 🔥

  • @InkedupT-raw
    @InkedupT-raw Месяц назад +3

    If GO AWAY HEAT WAS A PERSON IN 2024!!!! 💯💯💯💯👏👏👏 This group totally sucks bro

  • @RedWolfWindgear
    @RedWolfWindgear Месяц назад +8

    He's gotten to a point of the fans giving off X-Pac heat. That's not a good thing.

  • @yeahyeah8439
    @yeahyeah8439 Месяц назад

    Its honestly the best version of Jericho in AEW. And definitely one of his all-time best in his entire career.

  • @Five2Four24
    @Five2Four24 Месяц назад +2

    Jericho in WWE > Jericho in AEW!

    • @DroopCoop
      @DroopCoop Месяц назад

      No kidding lol He was the first undisputed champion, he was a mutli time world champion, he had gimmicks like Y2J, heel Jericho in a speedo, and the List of Jericho gimmick, he pulled off ridiculous gimmicks and made them amazing, he was an amazing main eventer and mid carder, his feuds with Shawn Michaels are legendary, his team with KO was awesome, he did everything. In AEW he helped start up the company, was the first AEW world champion, led a few factions, and had the Le Champion gimmick. Which is HOF worthy, but not as legendary as his WWE run where he was in his prime and lasted almost two decades. Saying WWE Jericho is better is like saying chocolate is better than fish, fish is good but chocolate is on another level lol

    • @1223steffen
      @1223steffen Месяц назад

      @@DroopCoophbk 2008 was terrible

  • @countzrathknock6737
    @countzrathknock6737 Месяц назад

    Chris Jericho, before AEW, was my favorite Wrestler. I used to consider him the G.O.A.T.
    But as the years in AEW came and passed, it became more and more clear that Jericho could not remove his own ego to get his faction mates over. He latches himself to hot talent to work with and fued with and siphons off their heat. Part of being a great wrestler is getting not only yourself over but your opponents as well. Only a very small few opponents have done anything of note since feuding with Jericho.
    He called C.M. Punk a cancer, but it is now readily apparent that Jericho was engaging in clear projection. Honestly, it's time to pack it in Chris.
    I have to now agree with Jim Cornette and Brian Last about Jericho having go away heat and making anything he is involved with, worse for him being there.
    Which is a shame cause i really do have such fond memories of Y2J and the fact he got a damned Clipboard over; Hell, this man got the word "It" over. But he is no longer that Chris Jericho. The learning tree will be yet another do-nothing faction that elevates not a single member, and he will move on to be a vacuum of personality that sucks the life out of anyone he touches.

  • @michaelsaunders4256
    @michaelsaunders4256 Месяц назад +3

    I think the learning tree gimmick is weird and the main thing I would like is if those allegations are true with him is to take accountability for them say I **ked up leave aew for a while and go get help

    • @anakinsmith4770
      @anakinsmith4770 Месяц назад

      Nothing has been confirmed so the to me that proves a false narrative

  • @andimarment
    @andimarment Месяц назад +1

    I like it. He's leaning into the hate He's getting to wind people up even more. Lads had about a billion different gimmicks

  • @jobaerbhuiyan6501
    @jobaerbhuiyan6501 Месяц назад

    2008-2011 well dressed up heel Jericho's whc run is my favorite run.

  • @bryantsalcedo554
    @bryantsalcedo554 Месяц назад

    Jerichos learning tree gimmick sounds like what AEW fans think of CM Punk after the AEW wrestlers said they wont accept advice from vets

  • @user-we1sj3oj9n
    @user-we1sj3oj9n 10 дней назад +1

    Who wants more tv time?? God i love this gimmick😊😊

  • @killergrooves2438
    @killergrooves2438 Месяц назад

    Jericho is one of the reasons why I started watching WCW. He’s been one of my absolute top favorite wrestlers for over 25 years.
    But now he ironically feels more like Randy the Ram from “The Wrestler” than Randy Savage’s ponytail and mesh spandex shirt era. He looks old and haggard and he’s bowlegged as all hell now from decades of wrestling which makes him look broken down.
    I think Shawn Michaels post-2002 was way better than Shawn Michaels pre-1998 and when he retired he was still in the tail end of his prime and the only thing he was losing was more hair. Jericho is way past that retirement window and is now firmly in that Undertaker after losing to Roman Reigns window. Except Undertaker still had enough goodwill because he only showed up once or twice a year.

  • @jamiie78
    @jamiie78 Месяц назад

    This is the perfect gimmick for him considering everyone wants him to retire…he’s playing into that which is perfect

  • @PieroGiusseppeSalcedoSal-cz4dh
    @PieroGiusseppeSalcedoSal-cz4dh 15 дней назад +1

    It is like Patriarchy but with 0 of 0.

  • @DWtechfan
    @DWtechfan Месяц назад +1

    I understand that Jericho is trying to lean into the fan negativity. But it’s just not working the way Chris hoped it would. Everything Jericho has done in AEW for the last two years or so proves he should retire because everything he does is so cringe worthy.

  • @livingweaponnightmare
    @livingweaponnightmare Месяц назад

    Jericho peaked as the 'corrupt businessman' type gimmick in 2008-2010. Everything after that has been progressively worse. He really should just retire.

  • @SeasideDetective2
    @SeasideDetective2 29 дней назад

    The "Hi guys!" catchphrase is amusing, and I like his new theme song, since "Judas" is played out by now. But in all other respects, this couldn't be further from what I would prefer for Jericho. More than anything else, I want him to be a face! Chris Jericho has had to play the heel so many times in his career; I may be mistaken, but I don't think he's ever held a world title as a face. So I think that now, toward the end of his time in the ring, he should be rewarded with permanent face status, the way the Undertaker and Shawn Michaels were.
    Why not let Jericho lead a face faction? I thought he, Sammy Guevara, and Hook could form one. And since Chris was using the old "Lionheart" nickname very recently, why not play on that and call the new faction "The Pride" and give it the motto of "Lionheart Pride?" Chris would be the "big lion" and Sammy and Hook the "little lions." Let's face it: this is the point Chris Jericho has now reached. He won't be with us for much longer, so we need to honor him.

  • @hhtptai
    @hhtptai Месяц назад

    My major problem with Jericho is he thinks he's teflon and is this God of wrestling. He's arrogant and is so full of himself.

  • @timothyphillips6404
    @timothyphillips6404 Месяц назад

    Chris Jericho went to aew and ruined his value. Having 5000 gimmicks that aren’t that good doesn’t mean your over or are the king of reinvention

  • @user-hm4tt9hy5f
    @user-hm4tt9hy5f Месяц назад

    I started having issues with Jericho during the JAS, something about that faction didn't click with me. Also didn't help that before Collision, Jericho was on EVERY Dynamite and Rampage while others were going months being off TV. His face turn felt like it came from nowhere. It also felt lately like no one was benefitting from working with him.
    Then World's End, the allegations leaked and Tony did NOTHING! Tony has at least taken people off TV. Instead of taking Jericho off TV, he got the 2016 Roman treatment. He took a whole two weeks off and is once again in a never-ending feud where no one benefits and the allegations against him were never addressed

  • @curiouszaku9537
    @curiouszaku9537 Месяц назад

    He doesn't need to be in the spotlight. The Learning Tree gimmick's best point is giving Keith and Big Bill more than being floating. Culmination tho should be Big Bill and Keith having more footing and maybe Hook humbling Jericho

  • @pablodelgado7919
    @pablodelgado7919 Месяц назад +1

    His "Le Champion" gimmick was a good one at best when he first started in AEW along with Inner Circle. After that, it's been a lot of nothing gimmicks with catchphrases that never got over no matter how hard he tried to make them look like they were.

  • @JamesWilliams1991
    @JamesWilliams1991 Месяц назад

    Its funny how Chris Jericho will only be known for his factions in AEW instead of him being the first AEW World Champion

  • @0svvan0
    @0svvan0 Месяц назад

    AEW in general need to stop with the "I AM WHATEVER YOU SAY I AM" gimmicks.
    that's what Jericho is doing (and his whole problem is, we aren't getting what we used to get inbetween Jericho gimmicks....A BREAK. He has been on TV THE ENTIRE TIME BETWEEN JAS AND THIS. back in the day, he used to vanish for like 6 months plus, then when he comes back you're ready to see him), that's what the Bucks are doing, that's what naming a match "blood and guts" is.
    they might as well pay Eminem for that song, honestly.

  • @21Arfon21
    @21Arfon21 Месяц назад +1

    Are there actually any gimmicks in WWE anymore? Other than the Wyatt 6 everyone else has just become themselves, struggled to get over and this creating the problem of WWE not creating any legends from 2003 - current era (other than Cena Orton and Brock)

  • @kluangh1tam
    @kluangh1tam Месяц назад

    I'm enjoying whatever crap Jericho came up with now because he has done it all, and when he get other gimmicks over one after another, and yeah fumbling one or two gimmicks like this one it just show that he's only human. There's not much talents left from his era like him, there's Christian Cage, Adam Copeland, Billy Gunn, Eddie's gone, Benoit's gone, even Cena who came into business later than him is going to retire, most of them either retired or gone to obscurity. So just enjoy what's left of him, folks. You don't expect everybody to be like Ric Flair.

  • @williamseneyjr.6277
    @williamseneyjr.6277 Месяц назад

    Come on, The Learning Tree is Jericho's worst gimmick?
    It is still better than his absurd-in-all-the-wrong-ways Painmaker gimmick.

  • @LadyAstarionAncunin
    @LadyAstarionAncunin Месяц назад

    I’ve never EEEEEEVER liked any group Jericho formed in AEW. He’s like Matt Hardy in that he cools the heat of the guys he’s supposedly “helping” (and needed a place to store his buddy, Hager).

  • @ShaunTheCHB
    @ShaunTheCHB Месяц назад

    To be honest, I actually don't mind it. It's cringy yes but I admit it makes me laugh and Jericho's phrases like "Thanks guys" give me a chuckle.
    The irony is despite all the complaints it's getting a reaction out of people and people talk about it frequently so it's clearly working. If he came out to dead silence and people gave zero reaction that'd be a different story.

  • @ennio929
    @ennio929 Месяц назад

    I think the learning tree is one of the Jericho's best gimmicks

  • @Craignufc87
    @Craignufc87 Месяц назад

    He's such a nice man always saying hi to the fans and being polite and respectful, and offering great advice and guidance to wrestlers learning from his experience

  • @claymathewselevator8121
    @claymathewselevator8121 Месяц назад +2

    Reminds me of Bo Dallas in NXT

  • @sumobo7108
    @sumobo7108 Месяц назад

    Its the best gimmick of jericho,he constant reinvent himself what a legend

  • @robertfalkenberg
    @robertfalkenberg Месяц назад

    The learning Tree gimmick is not him! It does not fit him! The gimmicks he had in the WWE & The Inner Circle in AEW & The Appreciation Society was all good because he was being himself. He was being the kind of person that his fans know him from in his run in WWE. Even when he did You Just Made The List gimmick. The Learning Tree does not fit the personality that we all know him for.

  • @kenmo6
    @kenmo6 Месяц назад

    Give me Orange Cassidy, MJF, Darby Allin, more of the AEW originals.

  • @JoeMamaLlama1234
    @JoeMamaLlama1234 Месяц назад

    I find it goofy so badly that it's mildly chuckling. But his Babyface period prior before and around his allegations a while back was the worst. He got more wins cleanly when he shouldn't have. An old washed up Babyface is worse than a washed up heel. Heels can cheat and be over the top, faces have to overcome and push back against adversity.

  • @gerdfernandez
    @gerdfernandez Месяц назад

    Bruh this gimmick is actually good. Add MxM from Roh to his new faction and it will work

  • @lylaznboi01
    @lylaznboi01 Месяц назад

    I think since the allegations, people turned on him, regardless if there's a case or not. Even before that, it definitely felt like he overstayed his welcome in professional wrestling. There isn't much left for Jericho to do in wrestling besides helping elevate younger talent. If he had to make three different factions since the start of AEW, I think that's already a little much in a short span of time.

  • @cyberpsykoh6686
    @cyberpsykoh6686 Месяц назад

    Look, we get it. It's just another gimmick that generates heat for himself, but man, aren't we all tired of seeing Chris Jericho every week? I say it's time for him to become a part timer.

  • @AllEliteJoker
    @AllEliteJoker Месяц назад

    You have a video that says triple H master plan for Drew and Punk but you think Jericho doesnt have layers, levels and a master plan of his own? The legendary wrestler who constantly redefines his character definitely knows what hes doing with the learning tree. You dont have to like it. But you shouldn't bash something you dont like. Its childish and immature. Do better

  • @tehjboney4249
    @tehjboney4249 Месяц назад

    Bryan Keith should be wrestling on Ring Of Honor and honest I would like to see him competing for either the ROH TV Title or ROH World Title as a singles competitor.
    Bryan Keith also maybe developing an undefeated streak in ROH with Keith even maybe at some point developing a legacy in ROH.

  • @seikou1762
    @seikou1762 Месяц назад

    The fact that this video exists means this gimmick is working... literally WORKing and even ahead of its time

  • @carnybusiness7432
    @carnybusiness7432 Месяц назад

    Nothing against Big Bill, or the Bounty Hunter, but for me it is certainly the worst Jericho gimmick. I mean, he has had some cold periods, or some bad creative in his career before like most everyone else, but I would gladly take any previous version of Jericho over this. Not to mention, as a fan of HOOK's trio I'm annoyed they're currently stuck in this dead-end feud with Jericho. Otherwise, I want to emphasize that I really like most of what AEW is doing lately, especially that last Dynamite, but the best thing I can say for this character is I can always use a restroom/snack break.

  • @derrickhaggard
    @derrickhaggard Месяц назад +2

    This gimmick is stupid.

  • @arsenal_616
    @arsenal_616 Месяц назад

    Gimmick after gimmick after gimmick and none of them seem to land, they all seem to follow the same pattern. He's just repeating himself at this point. Fans aren't booing because he's a heel and they're supposed to boo him. They're booing because they're bored.
    Jericho needs to go away for a while. Make the fans miss him. He should go to NJPW if he wants to keep working. Or just take a break for a few months.

  • @muhammadsalar4245
    @muhammadsalar4245 Месяц назад +2

    its a great gimmick this person thinks he is a face but is hated by the wrestlers and fans it is so different and very similar to bolieve f b dallas in nxt

  • @jasontodd1896
    @jasontodd1896 Месяц назад +1

    I like the gimmick. Another click bait anti aew nonsense

  • @mooretoys94
    @mooretoys94 Месяц назад

    Not to mention CJ is now ripping off that Monday night messiah SR had a few years ago.

  • @achidikisob7759
    @achidikisob7759 Месяц назад

    Wasn't expecting a Stargate comparison, but I'll take Goa'uld Jericho.

  • @CharizardMaster69
    @CharizardMaster69 Месяц назад

    The thing is, he stole the overall concept from Jim Cornette criticizing him

  • @russenterprise6502
    @russenterprise6502 Месяц назад

    One gimmick he never did was being anti American since Jericho is Canadian

  • @specterRaven
    @specterRaven Месяц назад +1

    He should have retired 5 years ago.

  • @googlynihal1702
    @googlynihal1702 Месяц назад

    Im not mad at this gimmick but I just want the old Y2J back so baaadd!!And also his old theme song

  • @kimlundy4863
    @kimlundy4863 Месяц назад +1

    I think that the learning tree sucks!