yeah i agree with both of you i mean if you really wanted to you could get a 6700 and a nice cpu to pair with it would run just fine @@josejuanandrade4439
People need to realize about these entry level cards (4060 and 7600) is that they are 1080p cards. NVIDIA even mentions it on their website about using a 1080p screen. 16gigs of vram for these gpus are a waste as these cards lack the power to drive fps at higher resolutions and settings.
the 7600XT is a response to the 4060 16GB that was released. Also, you need to weight the specs against the 6700xt 12GB which has better specs but lacks hardware AV1 encoding.
@@ciexll no I don't do nvidia the 7600xt is the response the 4060 16gb I own a 7600 and it still pound my nephews 3060 12gb into the ground playing wow (the game we play)
Man, I love the options for quality cases for sub $100 these days. Brushed aluminum with tempered glass and included fans with tons of airflow. Plus I always felt ATX is the perfect size for a PC if you're not trying to free up tons of space.
you can build a 5600x/7800xt build for under 1k. Now I know what your thinking. The 5600x will bottleneck the 7800xt. If you play at 1440p, the difference is negligible. Your losing maybe 7% performance as opposed to use a R5 7600. If we are talking about getting the most performance out of 1k, nothing can beat this build. Still love the videos.
Sure, if the games you play aren't very CPU intensive. More power to you. I tend to err on the side of having a more powerful CPU, since there are far more options in games to lighten the GPU load than there are to lighten the CPU load.
@@brianburke808 Even with CPU intensive games, that pairing goes together quite nicely at 1440p. The 5600x is still a very capable CPU. 99% of games, there shouldn't be any reason to have to dial settings down to accommodate either components. I can understand the future proofing aspect. There is no where else to go with am4 besides the X3D. All i am saying is, if someone is looking build a sub 1k rig that yields the best performance, with all new parts, It would be very hard to beat that build.
@@NowThatsPCGamingIt’s because it’s a dead platform more than anything. Being on AM5 is worth it. If the 7500f becomes more readily available, it will be the way.
I had a 3070 and 8gb was absolutely not enough for it. 12 would probably be ideal for this card but I would rather a manufacturer have too many gigs vs be like nvidia and be short on a lot of their cards
at the price of the 12600kf atm, I'd rather spend a lil more and get the K incase of gpu issues later down the road or gpu issues in general and in this case the K isn't even that much more tbh, you'd have video output rather than none at all
Those extra VRAMS should be use on the higher cards BUT I think it's the compatibility OR Corporations are just greedy if a mid range GPU has alot of vram people might not upgrade on a yearly basis
You should but prices up when you show each part. I have a sff i5 6th gen. Can you do a showdown of sff graphics cards so us budget builders can see what to get or avoid.
I recommend waiting for rtx 50 series. That way if their performance uplifts are good, buy one of the 50 series, if they are not, then atleast the 30/40 series will drop in price once 50 series is released. Otherwise, I think a 1660 super can still run modern games even if at the lowest settings so surely your 1660 super can handle a couple more months before it retires. Even alan wake 2 is kinda playable(ish) on a 1660 super, you can see benchmarks on youtube
@@jasonzhu9742 thank you for the reply. i just got some extra cash so i wanted to get one, but that is a good tip. ill just wait to see when the 50 series comes out
@@jasonzhu9742 I also have a 3600x cpu, do you think I could leave that with a 4060 or would there be a bottle neck ? What do you think I could get if I do need to upgrade cpu?
@@user-lk3iv4sd7s well since you said you had some extra cash. If I were you I would upgrade your AM4 motherboard to AM5 because AM4 is becoming obsolete pretty quick. And AM5 will be able to support future CPUs for many years, and it also allows you to use DDR5 ram, which is faster than DDR4. Of course upgrading your motherboard will be very expensive, because not only you have to buy a new Motherboard, but you also have to buy a new CPU and ram. But regardless of whether you are on AM4 or AM5, you can still use your 1660 super with any of those motherboards, although you will probably be GPU bound in most games since AM5 CPUs are pretty new and 1660 super is pretty old. But you'll be able to upgrade it either way when the 50 series gpus comes out. Oh and if you have the budget, I highly recommend the Ryzen 7 7800x3d CPU because it gives amazing performance and incredible power efficiency for the performance it gives. Oh and about the bottleneck, if you're playing a GPU intensive game or you cranked your settings to Ultra, you'll most likely be GPU bound. But if you're playing a CPU intensive game or esports game, it maybe a CPU bottleneck, especially if you crank your settings down to low.
@@jasonzhu9742 yeah that makes sense I think I’m going to build an am5 pc and just make another PC with the am4 parts.i have noticed some games use more cpu and others not as much. Right now helldivers 2 and the finals run like 90 percent on my cpu so I was thinking that I need a better cpu. Thank you for the information I feel more confident now about what I have to do.I was just going to buy the gpu but I don’t mind playing on my 1660 for a bit more . Thank you again for your time
R5 7500f + used 6800non xt for 4k rasterised gaming,davinci resolve, solid works n UE5 or 4060ti(16gb) for Premiere pro,UE5 n 1440p rasterised & RT gaming
The 7600 XT is going to age well down the road I think. It might not be the legacy card that the 6700 XT is shaping up to be but maybe a budget legacy card.
I didn't understand. Why is it always Intel? The socket is at its end days, plus the Ryzen 7600 offers better gaming performance on a newish socket that has a big future ahead of it. And I ain't trying to pick on toasty's here, mad build channels are doing this. Maybe if Intel cut there 12th gen processors (which they should have 2 gens later) this would make sense. You can fit a much better performance system on the AM5 platform for $1k. This gives you a better upgrade path and you want to future proof your build.
Has enough VRAM to go the distance. But does it have the rasterization performance? I think not. I think a used 3060 would be a better choice. Same performance; less money. We are just at the point where 8GB is not going to be enough for 1440p moving forward. In fact, you may start needing more than that for 1080p sooner than you might imagine. I think 12GB is the right amount for a GPU with this sort of rasterization performance in 2024 because, by the time you need more than that, you are likely to be woefully insufficient on your rasterization performance and be about as useless as a 16GB RX580 is today.
I’m thinking about buying this I’m coming from a console would this be a good starter pc for me I’m looking to play warzone, Roblox and some other games like that is this pc capable of running 120 fps on low/ medium settings. Guys please let me know
Bro Rx 7600xt chip is underpowered and has more than enough vram to utilise it and doesn't even affect performance in 1080p, this gpu isn't even recommended by pc god #gamersnexus !
Skull & Bones is a pretty V ram demanding game. Playing on my legion with a 4070 mobile im at 7.8 gb of V Ram playing at 1440p. Im sure I spilled over to system ram. I can play at 4k and I 100% spill over at least 2 to 3 gb.
a b760 mobo with K procesor....why? you could get a better and cheaper z690 mobo... And a cheaper 1tb ssd + a cheaper pc case, then you can afford a better GPU that wouldnt bottlneck the CPU
That's not bad for the price. I bought a PC for $300 that didn't come with a PSU or any storage. What I did get was an MSI Z370-A PRO Motherboard, an i7 8700k, a GTX 1060 6GB, 16GB DDR4 RAM, a Corsair H100i 240mm AIO cooler, and an open air case with 7 RGB fans. I already has a PC so I took the PSU and storage from it to complete the newer build.
Would this be viable at 4k on a budget? Im trying to upgrade my cousins system with a rx 580 8gb and hes running at 4k like mostly low settings because of the tight budget
Its nice to have 12 or 16 gigs of Vram,if you don't use it well its still there and if you need more, guess what it is still there.Its just nice to have it and you know maybe you need it in the future.
Funny thing is my Rx 6800 is more efficient than 7600xt honestly I have to give the Rx 6800 efficienty and preformance award also draws less than my 3070
how come, if you try all kinds of hardware, havent used any of those minisforum embedded motherboards? theres a ryzen and an intel one, those look fine for gamer-case, id say(and i wanna see how they perform!!) Thanks for the vid
Youll never use that much vram lol. with a 4070 and only 12gb at 1440 i have yet to max it out. And thats a 1080 card, even more useless. Interesting though from what iv seen, AMD cards for whatever reason seem to use more vram. Anyone chime in with why that is? i can run overdrive mode and still be under my 12.
People are also using cards with higher VRAM for things like AI image generation, or language models, etc, and AMD is starting to be relevant in that scene.
The 7600xt is the worse graphics card on the planet. Not in terms of performance; but in terms of its performance relative to its counterpart the rx 7600. They get EXACTLY the same fps on most games. The 7600xt is simply too slow to utilize that extra vram. Look at some of the benchmarks of the 7600 vs the XT
You can totally fit the 6800 at a $1000 budget
got a 6800nitro for $330 factory refurbed. ASRock z690 itx/ac + 12700kf for another $330
You can fit a 7700xt or a 7800xt... that card choice is awful....
yeah i agree with both of you i mean if you really wanted to you could get a 6700 and a nice cpu to pair with it would run just fine @@josejuanandrade4439
how is a 7700xt level of performance card with 16gb vram an awful choice 💀@@josejuanandrade4439
@@josejuanandrade4439 6800 is a little faster than 7700xt and has more vram
People need to realize about these entry level cards (4060 and 7600) is that they are 1080p cards. NVIDIA even mentions it on their website about using a 1080p screen. 16gigs of vram for these gpus are a waste as these cards lack the power to drive fps at higher resolutions and settings.
EXACTLY
what about the 16gb of vram on a 6800?
@@_lucatron48_2yeah 6800 16gb is an excellent card.
The rx 6800 was designed for 1440p and 4k high plus RT gaming(even thou it’s not great at it) it makes way more sense to have 16 gigs of vram.
the vram isn't a waste for people who do 3d rendering as it requires it people need to realize gaming isn't the only things a graphics card can do
ryzen 5 7600 or 7600x and rx 6800 is a great combo for under 1k
CAN I PUT A RYZEN 7600x in place of this processor intel 5 12400kf
Yeah u just need to change the motherboard
@@SOME-ie6tm its more expensive and needs difreent mobo
Thanks.. but can I use the same powersupply?
@@SOME-ie6tm depends i would recomend at least a 650w by would preffer a 750 for future proof but 650 will work for now
the 7600XT is a response to the 4060 16GB that was released. Also, you need to weight the specs against the 6700xt 12GB which has better specs but lacks hardware AV1 encoding.
you mean 4060 ti bud not 4060
@@ciexll no I don't do nvidia the 7600xt is the response the 4060 16gb I own a 7600 and it still pound my nephews 3060 12gb into the ground playing wow (the game we play)
Man, I love the options for quality cases for sub $100 these days. Brushed aluminum with tempered glass and included fans with tons of airflow. Plus I always felt ATX is the perfect size for a PC if you're not trying to free up tons of space.
Coming from a Mac mini, I highly prefer smaller pc’s, ie itx or mATX
@@DengueBurger sooo many amazing mATX builds. It used to be somewhat niche and now lol..
Can you say what prices you’re paying for each part?
That montage beat is dope.
you can build a 5600x/7800xt build for under 1k. Now I know what your thinking. The 5600x will bottleneck the 7800xt. If you play at 1440p, the difference is negligible. Your losing maybe 7% performance as opposed to use a R5 7600. If we are talking about getting the most performance out of 1k, nothing can beat this build. Still love the videos.
Sure, if the games you play aren't very CPU intensive. More power to you. I tend to err on the side of having a more powerful CPU, since there are far more options in games to lighten the GPU load than there are to lighten the CPU load.
@@brianburke808 Even with CPU intensive games, that pairing goes together quite nicely at 1440p. The 5600x is still a very capable CPU. 99% of games, there shouldn't be any reason to have to dial settings down to accommodate either components. I can understand the future proofing aspect. There is no where else to go with am4 besides the X3D. All i am saying is, if someone is looking build a sub 1k rig that yields the best performance, with all new parts, It would be very hard to beat that build.
@@NowThatsPCGamingIt’s because it’s a dead platform more than anything. Being on AM5 is worth it. If the 7500f becomes more readily available, it will be the way.
3:16 Cue the sensual assembly montage..
Awesome video toasty bros! 👍🏻
10:28 detonation imminent.
Not trying 1440p Cyberpunk full raytracing?
Amd don't have rt
@@garbagepotatowrong, it does, just not as good as Nvidia at RT
I had a 3070 and 8gb was absolutely not enough for it. 12 would probably be ideal for this card but I would rather a manufacturer have too many gigs vs be like nvidia and be short on a lot of their cards
16gb of vram on a 7600 XT is completely useless
lol almost reminds me of the 16gb 580s you would see on Ebay. People modded them.
at the price of the 12600kf atm, I'd rather spend a lil more and get the K incase of gpu issues later down the road or gpu issues in general
and in this case the K isn't even that much more tbh, you'd have video output rather than none at all
i feel like games 2-3 yrs from now are gonna be more V-RAM heavy and the 7600xt 16gb is gonna be a great card like the 580 8gb was
Hey its 4 day for asking upgrading a 290-p0043w with a garphic card
*Beautiful build*
Those extra VRAMS should be use on the higher cards
BUT I think it's the compatibility
OR Corporations are just greedy if a mid range GPU has alot of vram people might not upgrade on a yearly basis
A $1k build is easy. At that price point it's all about trying to get even better specs via sales, instead of hoping for a playable PC.
the only thing i can see the 7600xt being worth for is if you need to render big NPR scenes on a buget
I do like that case very much.
Like the rx580 extra, vram can keep the card relevant for longer. But at that point you may as well just get a better card or save some money
You should but prices up when you show each part. I have a sff i5 6th gen. Can you do a showdown of sff graphics cards so us budget builders can see what to get or avoid.
hello im looking at the 3060 with 12gb of vram or the 4060 with 8gb of vram. does anyone know what i should get? i have a 1660 super rn
I recommend waiting for rtx 50 series. That way if their performance uplifts are good, buy one of the 50 series, if they are not, then atleast the 30/40 series will drop in price once 50 series is released. Otherwise, I think a 1660 super can still run modern games even if at the lowest settings so surely your 1660 super can handle a couple more months before it retires. Even alan wake 2 is kinda playable(ish) on a 1660 super, you can see benchmarks on youtube
@@jasonzhu9742 thank you for the reply. i just got some extra cash so i wanted to get one, but that is a good tip. ill just wait to see when the 50 series comes out
@@jasonzhu9742 I also have a 3600x cpu, do you think I could leave that with a 4060 or would there be a bottle neck ? What do you think I could get if I do need to upgrade cpu?
@@user-lk3iv4sd7s well since you said you had some extra cash. If I were you I would upgrade your AM4 motherboard to AM5 because AM4 is becoming obsolete pretty quick. And AM5 will be able to support future CPUs for many years, and it also allows you to use DDR5 ram, which is faster than DDR4. Of course upgrading your motherboard will be very expensive, because not only you have to buy a new Motherboard, but you also have to buy a new CPU and ram. But regardless of whether you are on AM4 or AM5, you can still use your 1660 super with any of those motherboards, although you will probably be GPU bound in most games since AM5 CPUs are pretty new and 1660 super is pretty old. But you'll be able to upgrade it either way when the 50 series gpus comes out. Oh and if you have the budget, I highly recommend the Ryzen 7 7800x3d CPU because it gives amazing performance and incredible power efficiency for the performance it gives.
Oh and about the bottleneck, if you're playing a GPU intensive game or you cranked your settings to Ultra, you'll most likely be GPU bound. But if you're playing a CPU intensive game or esports game, it maybe a CPU bottleneck, especially if you crank your settings down to low.
@@jasonzhu9742 yeah that makes sense I think I’m going to build an am5 pc and just make another PC with the am4 parts.i have noticed some games use more cpu and others not as much. Right now helldivers 2 and the finals run like 90 percent on my cpu so I was thinking that I need a better cpu. Thank you for the information I feel more confident now about what I have to do.I was just going to buy the gpu but I don’t mind playing on my 1660 for a bit more . Thank you again for your time
R5 7500f + used 6800non xt for 4k rasterised gaming,davinci resolve, solid works n UE5 or 4060ti(16gb) for Premiere pro,UE5 n 1440p rasterised & RT gaming
This deal is so unbelievable that even a caveman would be scratching his head in disbelief. 😂
Should grab a 6700xt or 6750xt if you can still find one, 12g vram and a better card at the sub $350. Love the case btw.
The 7600 XT is going to age well down the road I think. It might not be the legacy card that the 6700 XT is shaping up to be but maybe a budget legacy card.
HEY ,COULD YOU DO A BUILD WITH RYZEN 5 7600x AND RTX 4060?
THANKS.
Yes you can
I didn't understand. Why is it always Intel? The socket is at its end days, plus the Ryzen 7600 offers better gaming performance on a newish socket that has a big future ahead of it. And I ain't trying to pick on toasty's here, mad build channels are doing this. Maybe if Intel cut there 12th gen processors (which they should have 2 gens later) this would make sense. You can fit a much better performance system on the AM5 platform for $1k. This gives you a better upgrade path and you want to future proof your build.
I wonder if i can order a custom build that one to be exact lol
Beautiful Antec case!
I think they put the 16GB of VRAM in for people who want to do AI stuff at a decent price.
found a $200 pc on ebay, left for 20 mins and came back to buy it and sold out. a total of 840ish sold.
Think it would make a difference in video editing having additional VRAM? I didn't notice a difference in 12GB and 8GB.
I think you have us currency can you plz say the Canadian one two
Has enough VRAM to go the distance. But does it have the rasterization performance? I think not. I think a used 3060 would be a better choice. Same performance; less money. We are just at the point where 8GB is not going to be enough for 1440p moving forward. In fact, you may start needing more than that for 1080p sooner than you might imagine.
I think 12GB is the right amount for a GPU with this sort of rasterization performance in 2024 because, by the time you need more than that, you are likely to be woefully insufficient on your rasterization performance and be about as useless as a 16GB RX580 is today.
How about an Intel/ rx 7900 gre build, for those that decided not to go Nvidia at the last minute.
I’m thinking about buying this I’m coming from a console would this be a good starter pc for me I’m looking to play warzone, Roblox and some other games like that is this pc capable of running 120 fps on low/ medium settings. Guys please let me know
Bro Rx 7600xt chip is underpowered and has more than enough vram to utilise it and doesn't even affect performance in 1080p, this gpu isn't even recommended by pc god #gamersnexus !
Running 4K with full ray tracing turns it into a .ppt file
Skull & Bones is a pretty V ram demanding game. Playing on my legion with a 4070 mobile im at 7.8 gb of V Ram playing at 1440p. Im sure I spilled over to system ram. I can play at 4k and I 100% spill over at least 2 to 3 gb.
You actually like that game?
far cry 6 HD texture pack requires 11gb vram which is why i want a 16gb card. i only have 8gb and can't run it.
Even if 16gb is too much 8gb isnt enough. So you're better off with the 16gb
why not 16gb on 7700xt and 12gb on 7600xt.....
Was my pc worth for 380€
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Gtx 1660 super
Ryzen 7 3800x
16gb ddr4
1tb ssd
You should do ark survival. At max settings, i was maxing out my vram on the 3060.
I want to run TimeSpy on my build (I5 12600k, RX 6700 XT, 32g of Ram), but I'm too cheap to pay for it...🤷♂️
They have 16gig video cards in Ali express but alot complains already about them thought but there knock off version
On cod my 4070 uses 10gb of vram try mw3 i bet the vram gets used
I got one for you try re4 remake ✌️💯
Ive got ryzen 5 5500 and rx 6700 i meant to buy ryzen 5 5600 but ordered wrong one but i mean for around 650-750bucks ITS fine
They could have gone 10gb with a 256mb bus and provided 98% of the performance of 12Gb with a 196mb bus @ 20% less, ie 280.
Song name used in halo?
*cod is a must when testing it with a game smh*
a b760 mobo with K procesor....why? you could get a better and cheaper z690 mobo...
And a cheaper 1tb ssd + a cheaper pc case, then you can afford a better GPU that wouldnt bottlneck the CPU
try out arma 3, that will max out vram
I built a 12100f and 1660 super PC for 450, how did I do?
That's not bad for the price. I bought a PC for $300 that didn't come with a PSU or any storage. What I did get was an MSI Z370-A PRO Motherboard, an i7 8700k, a GTX 1060 6GB, 16GB DDR4 RAM, a Corsair H100i 240mm AIO cooler, and an open air case with 7 RGB fans. I already has a PC so I took the PSU and storage from it to complete the newer build.
@andrewpagan5087 How much did you pay for the 1660 super
@@yomarv 100
I done a few builds with a bit more horsepower, used aliexpress to get parts cheap.
@@AlexHusTech valid
Would this be viable at 4k on a budget? Im trying to upgrade my cousins system with a rx 580 8gb and hes running at 4k like mostly low settings because of the tight budget
You can and you can use hyper rx to upscale (rsr and AFMF)
you would be pushing it with 4k even on low settings with an rx 580 it would be pretty much unplayable imo
Les goo new vid
Here in India it cost more then 1200 dollar lol
Good Card
256 bit
16gb perfect
Its nice to have 12 or 16 gigs of Vram,if you don't use it well its still there and if you need more, guess what it is still there.Its just nice to have it and you know maybe you need it in the future.
ive got that 12gig 3060 lol
16gb on these 128bit cards is a gimmick, maybe in the future devs will try to utilize it, doubt it tho...
i beg to differ u said u would get there
But ya know what isn’t Not COOL?! THIS SWEET @$$ Antec case!💪🤓
7600 16GB bottled by same 128-bit bus....
Funny thing is my Rx 6800 is more efficient than 7600xt honestly I have to give the Rx 6800 efficienty and preformance award also draws less than my 3070
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how come, if you try all kinds of hardware, havent used any of those minisforum embedded motherboards? theres a ryzen and an intel one, those look fine for gamer-case, id say(and i wanna see how they perform!!) Thanks for the vid
1k setup just 7600 xt gpu ? u joke :D ?:D
Youll never use that much vram lol. with a 4070 and only 12gb at 1440 i have yet to max it out. And thats a 1080 card, even more useless. Interesting though from what iv seen, AMD cards for whatever reason seem to use more vram. Anyone chime in with why that is? i can run overdrive mode and still be under my 12.
Memory is cheap AF, we should be praising the inclusion of more VRAM because NVIDIA is stingy AF with it.
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Tell everyone its sunny in Ky today! Lol
this is a really bad price to performance for $1000, you can easily make a much higher performance pc for this price
74 like in 16 min let's go
how you didnt consider that you dont buy a graphicscard to use now and in the past, but you will actually also use the card in the future
I've heard that Star Citizen uses Vram and is also good with X3d amd chips
People are also using cards with higher VRAM for things like AI image generation, or language models, etc, and AMD is starting to be relevant in that scene.
Rahh
The 7600xt is the worse graphics card on the planet.
Not in terms of performance; but in terms of its performance relative to its counterpart the rx 7600. They get EXACTLY the same fps on most games. The 7600xt is simply too slow to utilize that extra vram. Look at some of the benchmarks of the 7600 vs the XT
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wtf did amd build this
Yeah, AMD built a system with an Intel CPU and chipset...
no as in y the fuck did amd make this gpu@@SeanOMatic
you shouldve gone with a r5 7600 you would get more performance and upgrade paths
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