We just have to face facts no matter what brand you prefer the GMC Syclone and Buick Grand National are two of the most badass coolest vehicles ever built in the history of man.
This was a real treat. Growing up in the 80s-90s remembering the few performance vehicles then. It was a real pleasure to see those two being talked about and condition...
Great video. Thanks for highlighting one of the most iconic trucks ever made (Syclone) along with an often overlooked performance truck (Dakota). Need to cruise over to the museum one day!
My dad was an electrician at the S-10/Sonoma/Blazer/Jimmy plant, in Pontiac, MI, until its closing in the early 1990s. I used to think it was so cool that my dad worked where they built the Syclone and Typhoon, lol. All my friends loved and wanted one of those trucks back then!
Both are pretty cool pick ups. I had a buddy that had a 91 Syclone. I let him drive my 87 Grand National and he let me drive his Syclone. I definitely liked it. I’ve driven a few Typhoon’s as well. Although the Syclone is quicker I think I’d go for a Typhoon for the extra seating capacity 😀
One car that I will NEVER forget is the black with red trim 1987 Dodge Daytona Turbo Z with the 2.2 SOHC turbo 5 speed that my sister owned. It had the polished bullethole wheels and it was gorgeous.
My 1981 S10 I put a 305 with a 350turbo trans rebuilt. It was 4x4 an would smoke anything around in the 1990s. Had 12 gal tank got 11 miles to the gal. We put the engine in while I was on leave. I then drove the truck from Maryland to Utah. I believe I stopped 17 times. Everyone loved that truck , best time of my life.
@@brianlarose6110 mine was a 81 s10 blazer. I looked at the internet all I can say is they are wrong. They claim they did come out till 83 yet the blazer started in 82. The only thing I can think is it was made a year before the official roll out. I’ve worked on trucks that were said to be a certain year but the engine and door plates say a different year. I know what my title said I bought it used in 1988. I paid $5000 for it with 20,000 miles. It was a silver 2 door with blue stripes. Never liked the stripes.
@@musoui my s10 did some crazy 4wheeling an really didn’t have anything special other then horsepower. I was at Moab all over Utah an Idaho then moved to El Paso. Being in the army in the early 1990s we had a blast. Best time of my life. We used the S10 because beer ran out on post. The delivery trucks couldn’t make it through the snow. I went to the front Gate. The MPs said we won’t come get you if you get stuck. We said we’re on a beer run. They gave us $150 an a Motorola in case we got stuck coming back. Funny how beer made friends. Lol The snow was so deep we could on see the top of snow markers. Out there they were doubled up. So the snow was over 5 feet in some spots. The S10 was so light with fat tires it stayed on top. The heater core was broken so we had to scrape the inside windows. Fun times.
I think it's the humidity that causes headliner to be droopy . My gmc suburban silver with red interior, has been stored outside for 29 years. And is still good. Wisconsin
As a Ford guy who owned a Lightning (true Lightning, not the EV version 🙄), I love and RESPECT those Syclones and Typhoons! Ahead of their time, just like the Grand Nationals.
@@2H2521 Please excuse the F outta me for my egredious error. It's been 30 years. All I remember was that it was a stepside and had the word "Splash" in the name.
Excellent full length program. Is great how the rarely mentioned Shelby Dakota was featured since it came out in late 80s ahead of the Syclone, and is nice to hear Little Red Express get mentioned.
I had the honor of test driving a used GMC Syclone at a Chevy dealer. The rumble of the exhaust sounded like a v8, that truck took off with no tires squealing when I floored it..
I had the pleasure owning a Syclone in 95. Did the typical mods, TD06-20g turbo, upgraded intercooler, Lawrence Connelly chip and knock retard box. Scared the living tail out of my gIrlfriend and father, such a fun truck. Things you look back on, sold it for aMitsubishi 3000gt- VR4. 😂
Those GMC Syclones are nice!!! My neighbor bought one new in 1991. And for me, I love my 2002 Ford SVT Lightning ⚡️⚡️It’s in mint condition with 32k miles.
Would have liked to have seen what Carroll Shelby would have done a few years later when the Dakota started getting the Magnum engines. I had a 92 Dakota Sport V-6 Magnum 5 Speed short bed standard cab that ran a best of 15.9 @ 85 MPH. Comfortable little truck and handled well.
Funny I had one too but an extended cab, 391 gears and it ran a 15.9 as well.......with 250k on it! My buddy had a s-10 Xtreme and he was always pissed cuz he couldn't break into the 15s when we went to the track, and it had a bunch of bolt ons to!
I was fresh out of highschool when these came out. Couldnt afford one BUT, they also made a Sonoma GT that was non turbo but i believe was tune port injection . That i drove and it was really quick too. . Fun fact , i live in Indiana and back then Rick Shmitts was the center for the Pacers , he had a Typhoon and would come to the park a lot and play basketball with us back in the day..
GMC ain't no Joke👍🏾😁🤳You can feel the difference in weight between a Dakota & S10 when You look at the door Window frames. The S10 is constructed to be very light. It's a great platform for a Performance Truck. AWD & Turbo V6 is a WinWin. Dakota is actually a Mid Size Truck. It was the only Mid Size Truck available with a V8 for many Years. My 98 Dakota Club Cab 5.2 Magnum V8 is still one of my favorite vehicles to drive even with 196,000 miles on it🔈GUNK TRANSMEDIC Shift Improver keeps the Automatic Transmission shifting like New✌😎☯️
Ya the dodge trannies in those days were horrible, even the Dakota 5.9 rt trans robbed so much performance from that truck, a manual valve body with a b&m slap shifter really woke those things up. Like half a second off the quarter mile times if I remember correctly.
I never had a Shelby, but I did have that gen Dakota, and I loved that truck. Rode well, did whatever work I needed it to do, got okay mileage for a medium tank from WWII... Got destroyed by a drunk unfortunately, but I'd jump on a 1st Gen Dakota; especially with a proper transmission and a 318.
@@markusa5521 As an owner of 2 a 93 and a 95. Get one while you can. They are getting junked at a higher rate than other vehicles. It already feels like I am driving a 1980 ram. Except the ram have a large aftermarket parts market. Soon the aftermarket is going to pick up on the first gen dakota as it passes into true classic status. Holley makes everything you need to swap a hemi into the first gen. Which is my plan for the 93.
@timbrwolf1121 I agree and a clean one with low miles is big money but that them just last along time especially in the rustbelt out west they look mint
@@timbrwolf1121 Only for the 2wd though sadly. I did a full frame off resto to my 96. Love to put a hemi in it. Still can with lots of fabrication but rather use a drop in kit
@tomc8157 same here. When I get a 4x4 dakota it's getting a diesel swap. Om606 Mercedes, isuzu 4btd or Cummins 4bt. The 2wd is getting lowered 2" and might get viper or Daytona wheels
I purchased a Shelby dakota in 1990. It had been used by the denver zone office and had about 1500 miles on it. I traded it for a dakota Rt in 2001. I really liked that truck. bare in mind, I've never seen a fast 318 plymouth. :) I still own the Rt now in 23. I just rolled over 100,000 miles on it.
I had a 91 Dakota club cab 4x4 for a bit in 1998..also a 318 2bbl in a Plymouth is quicker than a Shelby Dakota...Depends if you have the smog carb on the 318 some had it some didnt thats why some people say 318's move real good and some say it doesnt..Also the Dakota had 3.92's or something like that. I ran 15.80's in a 1973 Plymouth Satellite stock 318 2bbl,904 auto and 3.21 gearing.100% stock,single exhaust etc....They came with 2 different 2bbl carbs one had 20 hp less than the carb I had(one carb is also similar what they used on lean burn cars later on just robbed power/performance)..torque was also up by as much(I have the factory book dating 1973)..We also had same year Chargers with same everything but the carbs and it was over 2 seconds quicker in the 1/4 mile.We swapped the carbs made back to back run and cars ran identical times better carb was quicker.This was in the 80's and the cars were bone stock never messed with.. I put a strong 340 in the 73 and made a Road Runner clone in 1988,car ran high 12's with no traction for 100 feet! Also ran the 215-70-14 tires so that hampered traction too.Sold it bought 4 cars with the money and kept buying/selling and fixing up.
You missed the best year then,. 1992 318 magnum was the fastest. I was out running stock 302 mustangs and lt1 camaros with a stock 318 magnum Dakota. After 92/93 the government stepped in with emissions and made dodge choke them down
@@kevin61906 no you weren't. stop making up stupid shit. i've raced both 5.0 mustangs and LT1 camaros. even the dakota r/t isn't close to a LT1. i've seen stock LT1 camaros run high 13s. don't make up stuff. those were 6 cylinders
Hello andrewdunbar828, You're 100% correct about the headliner-sag issue. This is thanks to The EPA requiring auto manufacturers to use environmentally friendly, water-based glue to adhere the cloth material to the cabin roof of cars, trucks & vans. This was an industry-wide issue in high-humidity regions; such as Florida; where this Dodge Shelby Dakota resides. It took several years until a glue was developed that resolved this issue & met the "ridiculous" EPA requirements. Best regards from Yucatan Mexico, Ben
I owned a Shelby Dakota for several years, that was a fun truck. Terrifying in the rain, or if you needed to come to a short stop, but a absolute blast to drive.
I worked on restoring the paint on a Shelby truck. Red like that one. It was a barn find with 20k miles and was purchased by a truck museum after it was finished. I'm not sure which one, but I was happy to have the opportunity to work on it.
Friend and I went to the Chevy dealer to look at Syclones I remember sitting in the driver's seat of a brand new one in 1991. Sales guy tried to sell us we were broke in our early 20's living with roommates. The syclone was way ahead of its time now performance and AWD is so common.
@@samueljackson2478 if it was the small short bed with AWD. And yes I can say my old dodge would woops a fox body. I whooped many things with that truck. And it was ext cab and 4x4. It was no slouch.
Wow I’ve heard of the tycoon & typhoons but never have seen or heard about these Shelby Dodge Dakotas. That’s awesome 👏🏻 & literally like new still wow.
Owner of number 0828 Break boosting is necessary to break all the tires loose. Stock they can handle a little more boost from stock to get it past 300whp. The transmission is also what helps get the power down, changing out the stock torque converter for more higher rpm stall speed will help take advantage of the power. Power to weight is the strong point, next to doing awd donuts in the rain or snow. This vehicle was ahead of its time by mixing forced induction and awd into a pickup.
haha I doubt that unless you did extensive work to the engine! My Dakota V6 would run 120-125 mph & would smoke a V6 S10 & couldnt touch my V8 Dakota even though the Chevy 4.3 is basically a 350 with 2 less cylinders! Im not taking away from the S10 as I loved them & had an '83, '86 & '88 but they were not as fast as my Dakotas
I have driven both of these trucks many times and done work on them. I can almost guarantee those s10's you raced with your Dakota were 2.8l v6 versions not the 4.3. The 2.8 were absolutely useless. But with just a little bit of work a 4.3 would walk ANY Dakota all day. Again I've been inside those trucks too many times, not taking anything against the Dakota though, they just weren't fast.
And you can't fix the saggy headliner! You might be able to fix it easier if you don't wait much longer! Just giving a hard time great looking Shelby truck and a very awesome collection!
I like the quote about the Dakota: "it was not atall fast" However, if i had to choose between the two i would go Dakota simply based on rarest. Until this video i only knew about the Syclone... my dad had an s10 that was black and that truck is special in my memories but that dodge has got to be one of the rarest trucks ever produced.
As a kid I remember hanging out at American Sunroof on weekends while my Dad worked on the owners Auburn Boat tail speedster (my Dad worked at the GM tech center across the street in Warren Michigan)…I saw a dozen or so Typhoon/ Cyclones lined up in the process of being modified for dealerships…it was like seeing a UFO or something, I remember wanting the typhoon tho ever since😏
I'm Probably the one that put the 1st Set of Tires and did the 4 Wheel Alignment on that Syclone at the Firestone Mastercare in Madison Heights MI. PAS Inc was Right Behind our shop so they used Us for Repairs, Tires and Alignments, took 4 Guys to Align that thing back then, and They Were FAST, Everyone we did had "Tweeked Boost" and would Hit 100MPH in a City Block!. @MyClassicCarTV
Professor, you've done it again! Classics Trucks with UHMPH! I remember seeing the Syclones in Dubai, as Police Trucks. But the cops hated them because who wants a Black Truck in the dessert?
You do have to give credit to GM for producing this vehicle. I just wish they did the same today vs copying and just keeping up with other pickups 2022-23
The first time I saw a sports pick-up I laughed. The last time I saw one I did the same. Though to be honest some of these newer ones do look good. Can't lie.
I remember Bob Fish dealership out in West Bend, Wisconsin had one in their showroom. I feel in love and dreamt about owning it. Of course, I was just a young guy and couldn’t afford it. I know if I had it, would be taken care of and probably kept it as my baby.
I wish I would've waited one more year, before buying my first new truck. I had a 78 Chevrolet Silverado, 1/2 ton long box 2wd. And sold it for a new 1990 Silverado, top of the line back then. Regular cab, long box 2wd, 350. It was $13,744 out the door with my dad's gm discount. I got 285,000 miles out of it before it was involved in a accident by someone looking at their cellphone, relatively new in those days.! 2001.? Always had a need for a full size truck, but was still living at home, if I would have waited, who knows? I may have bought one.!
I inherited my grandfathers 93 Chevy regular cab long bed, 350, with 120,000 miles on it. Spent 22 years in a garage being driven just enough to keep it in good shape. Absolutely love that truck. It's the most reliable car in my driveway, ac still works, still looks beautiful.... It's a shame yours was taken my the road. My hot rod project truck happens to be a 4 speed, 454, 76 Silverado stepside.
@ryurc3033 with the square bodied chevies so popular now, I wish I would have kept mine. ! Or could've bought several at low prices back in the early 90s, dirt cheap. Now, their like $8000+ for a project truck. Same for a 90s. Funny how the hobby changes.
What's truly sad is that less than 10 years after these Shelby models were produced Chrysler produced the Dodge Dakota R/T with the 360 Magnum, and I can attest that it was quick...but nothing crazy, it was just fun. I blew one sideways in the rain at 60 MPH with a heavy foot. I also drove one of the original OBS Ford Lightnings in black with red trim and a gray cloth interior with the 351 fuel injected V8 and it was alot of fun too, but still not fast.
It was stated that the size of the engine was increased from 3.8 Litres to 4.3 Litres is not accurate. The 231/3.8 Buick built V6 in the GN/GNX was a totally different engine from the 262/4.3 Chevrolet built V6 in the Syclone/Typhoon but both being GM built Turbocharged V6s, they sound so similar. The 3.8 had a firing order of 165432, I believe that the 4.3 was a different firing order but I could be mistaken.
The Shelby Dakota doesn't have an electric fan because Shelby decided to give it one for better performance, it has said fan because the original Dakota was never designed to accommodate a V8 and therefore couldn't fit the mechanical fan/fan clutch, and that's why the Shelby Dakota has 5 more horsepower than the same 318 in a contemporary Dodge Ram pickup... it's also why the 91+ Dakota that could be had with a V8 had a nose that was not flat like this first gen Dakota but was instead more convex in order to give the room for the 318 and fan/fan clutch assembly.
We just have to face facts no matter what brand you prefer the GMC Syclone and Buick Grand National are two of the most badass coolest vehicles ever built in the history of man.
Amen brother!
Don't forget the 1989 Pontiac TTA (Turbo Trans Am 20th Anniversary) which had the Buick 3.8 Turbo.
Fun fact: If I'm not mistaken, Syclone was spelled with an "S" instead of a "C" because Cyclone was already taken by Mercury back in the late '60s.
you are correct
Yep
Mercury had to make more than 500 production models for nascar. The name just has a racing heritage.
Very correct.
Fun fact spell check yo self!😅
This was a real treat. Growing up in the 80s-90s remembering the few performance vehicles then. It was a real pleasure to see those two being talked about and condition...
$25,000 in 1991 is equivalent to $56,000 in 2023. The Cyclone was a great value for the performance.
That is horrible inflation over 30 years.
56k seems like a steal to have the fastest car in the US
Averages out to about 3.5% / year@@herbienbrian2
It’s deception because then it was hard to part with that much money for a S-10
Great video. Thanks for highlighting one of the most iconic trucks ever made (Syclone) along with an often overlooked performance truck (Dakota). Need to cruise over to the museum one day!
Need sport machines 18" replicas on mine asap. Numer 0828
Agree when they put the magnum motor in the Dakota you could get a 5 speed stick with a 390 gear they would spank 5.0 fox body's
That 5.9 litre Dakota was awesome. I think it got Ford and Chevy back into rivalry.
My dad was an electrician at the S-10/Sonoma/Blazer/Jimmy plant, in Pontiac, MI, until its closing in the early 1990s. I used to think it was so cool that my dad worked where they built the Syclone and Typhoon, lol. All my friends loved and wanted one of those trucks back then!
Both are pretty cool pick ups. I had a buddy that had a 91 Syclone. I let him drive my 87 Grand National and he let me drive his Syclone. I definitely liked it. I’ve driven a few Typhoon’s as well. Although the Syclone is quicker I think I’d go for a Typhoon for the extra seating capacity 😀
One car that I will NEVER forget is the black with red trim 1987 Dodge Daytona Turbo Z with the 2.2 SOHC turbo 5 speed that my sister owned. It had the polished bullethole wheels and it was gorgeous.
My 1981 S10 I put a 305 with a 350turbo trans rebuilt. It was 4x4 an would smoke anything around in the 1990s. Had 12 gal tank got 11 miles to the gal.
We put the engine in while I was on leave. I then drove the truck from Maryland to Utah. I believe I stopped 17 times.
Everyone loved that truck , best time of my life.
First year S10 was 1982 I thought?
@@brianlarose6110 mine was a 81 s10 blazer. I looked at the internet all I can say is they are wrong. They claim they did come out till 83 yet the blazer started in 82. The only thing I can think is it was made a year before the official roll out. I’ve worked on trucks that were said to be a certain year but the engine and door plates say a different year.
I know what my title said I bought it used in 1988. I paid $5000 for it with 20,000 miles. It was a silver 2 door with blue stripes. Never liked the stripes.
@@musoui my s10 did some crazy 4wheeling an really didn’t have anything special other then horsepower. I was at Moab all over Utah an Idaho then moved to El Paso. Being in the army in the early 1990s we had a blast. Best time of my life. We used the S10 because beer ran out on post. The delivery trucks couldn’t make it through the snow. I went to the front Gate. The MPs said we won’t come get you if you get stuck. We said we’re on a beer run. They gave us $150 an a Motorola in case we got stuck coming back. Funny how beer made friends. Lol
The snow was so deep we could on see the top of snow markers. Out there they were doubled up. So the snow was over 5 feet in some spots. The S10 was so light with fat tires it stayed on top. The heater core was broken so we had to scrape the inside windows. Fun times.
Even being a inside kept vehicle basically brand new the headliner could not survive time!
I noticed that right away too.
The foam backing even on modern replacement is crap. All the s10s I've built I always get away from the factory style headliner material.
I think it's the humidity that causes headliner to be droopy .
My gmc suburban silver with red interior, has been stored outside for 29 years. And is still good. Wisconsin
The headliners on many cars I've seen (pre 2010s). The adhesive/foam material would disintegrate over time. Even if it has been garage kept.
@@user-neo71665what kind of material do you use? I need to redo them in both my buicks.
I’m not sure what’s more legendary between these two trucks and his handlebar mustache 😂😂😂
As a Ford guy who owned a Lightning (true Lightning, not the EV version 🙄), I love and RESPECT those Syclones and Typhoons! Ahead of their time, just like the Grand Nationals.
Agree 100%
I love everything about this comment..
Let's not mention electric like it exists.
It's just a nameplate now
Anyone remember the Ford Splash stepside? Cowabunga dude. lol
@@ditherdather”Ford Splash?” It’s called a Ford Ranger Splash…
@@2H2521 Please excuse the F outta me for my egredious error. It's been 30 years. All I remember was that it was a stepside and had the word "Splash" in the name.
Excellent full length program. Is great how the rarely mentioned Shelby Dakota was featured since it came out in late 80s ahead of the Syclone, and is nice to hear Little Red Express get mentioned.
I had the honor of test driving a used GMC Syclone at a Chevy dealer. The rumble of the exhaust sounded like a v8, that truck took off with no tires squealing when I floored it..
I had the pleasure owning a Syclone in 95. Did the typical mods, TD06-20g turbo, upgraded intercooler, Lawrence Connelly chip and knock retard box. Scared the living tail out of my gIrlfriend and father, such a fun truck. Things you look back on, sold it for aMitsubishi 3000gt- VR4. 😂
Those GMC Syclones are nice!!! My neighbor bought one new in 1991. And for me, I love my 2002 Ford SVT Lightning ⚡️⚡️It’s in mint condition with 32k miles.
Lightning gang
Too bad those 5.4L are trash first second and 3rd generation 👎🏼
Would have liked to have seen what Carroll Shelby would have done a few years later when the Dakota started getting the Magnum engines. I had a 92 Dakota Sport V-6 Magnum 5 Speed short bed standard cab that ran a best of 15.9 @ 85 MPH. Comfortable little truck and handled well.
Dakota Magnum R/T is pretty much what Shelby would have come up with.
was just gonna say the magnum v6 makes 180 hp (134 kW) at 4,400 rpm and from 195 to 220 lb⋅ft
Interesting. I only managed a 17 second quarter mile time on mine. Might have had a lot to do with the near 200k on it at the time though.
They actually had a twin turbo 360, but nothing ever happened. It was mostly a lab rat for testing the powerplant, but it would've been amazing.
Funny I had one too but an extended cab, 391 gears and it ran a 15.9 as well.......with 250k on it!
My buddy had a s-10 Xtreme and he was always pissed cuz he couldn't break into the 15s when we went to the track, and it had a bunch of bolt ons to!
This is only the second time I've heard Dennis say Punch It. He's normally the king of 25 MPH. I knew it was in there somewhere.
I was fresh out of highschool when these came out. Couldnt afford one BUT, they also made a Sonoma GT that was non turbo but i believe was tune port injection . That i drove and it was really quick too. . Fun fact , i live in Indiana and back then Rick Shmitts was the center for the Pacers , he had a Typhoon and would come to the park a lot and play basketball with us back in the day..
Nice!
CPI spider injection.
GMC ain't no Joke👍🏾😁🤳You can feel the difference in weight between a Dakota & S10 when You look at the door Window frames. The S10 is constructed to be very light. It's a great platform for a Performance Truck. AWD & Turbo V6 is a WinWin. Dakota is actually a Mid Size Truck. It was the only Mid Size Truck available with a V8 for many Years. My 98 Dakota Club Cab 5.2 Magnum V8 is still one of my favorite vehicles to drive even with 196,000 miles on it🔈GUNK TRANSMEDIC Shift Improver keeps the Automatic Transmission shifting like New✌😎☯️
I owned a white Shelby Dakota # 1300 something. Fun except for transmission issues.
Cool to see this vehicle featured.
Ya the dodge trannies in those days were horrible, even the Dakota 5.9 rt trans robbed so much performance from that truck, a manual valve body with a b&m slap shifter really woke those things up. Like half a second off the quarter mile times if I remember correctly.
I never had a Shelby, but I did have that gen Dakota, and I loved that truck. Rode well, did whatever work I needed it to do, got okay mileage for a medium tank from WWII... Got destroyed by a drunk unfortunately, but I'd jump on a 1st Gen Dakota; especially with a proper transmission and a 318.
Best truck I ever had wish I still had one I still look for a good clean one to get living in the rust belt nothing last forever
@@markusa5521 As an owner of 2 a 93 and a 95. Get one while you can. They are getting junked at a higher rate than other vehicles. It already feels like I am driving a 1980 ram. Except the ram have a large aftermarket parts market. Soon the aftermarket is going to pick up on the first gen dakota as it passes into true classic status. Holley makes everything you need to swap a hemi into the first gen. Which is my plan for the 93.
@timbrwolf1121 I agree and a clean one with low miles is big money but that them just last along time especially in the rustbelt out west they look mint
@@timbrwolf1121 Only for the 2wd though sadly. I did a full frame off resto to my 96. Love to put a hemi in it. Still can with lots of fabrication but rather use a drop in kit
@tomc8157 same here. When I get a 4x4 dakota it's getting a diesel swap. Om606 Mercedes, isuzu 4btd or Cummins 4bt. The 2wd is getting lowered 2" and might get viper or Daytona wheels
Back when GM had soul in their vehicles
I purchased a Shelby dakota in 1990. It had been used by the denver zone office and had about 1500 miles on it. I traded it for a dakota Rt in 2001. I really liked that truck. bare in mind, I've never seen a fast 318 plymouth. :) I still own the Rt now in 23. I just rolled over 100,000 miles on it.
I had a 91 Dakota club cab 4x4 for a bit in 1998..also a 318 2bbl in a Plymouth is quicker than a Shelby Dakota...Depends if you have the smog carb on the 318 some had it some didnt thats why some people say 318's move real good and some say it doesnt..Also the Dakota had 3.92's or something like that.
I ran 15.80's in a 1973 Plymouth Satellite stock 318 2bbl,904 auto and 3.21 gearing.100% stock,single exhaust etc....They came with 2 different 2bbl carbs one had 20 hp less than the carb I had(one carb is also similar what they used on lean burn cars later on just robbed power/performance)..torque was also up by as much(I have the factory book dating 1973)..We also had same year Chargers with same everything but the carbs and it was over 2 seconds quicker in the 1/4 mile.We swapped the carbs made back to back run and cars ran identical times better carb was quicker.This was in the 80's and the cars were bone stock never messed with..
I put a strong 340 in the 73 and made a Road Runner clone in 1988,car ran high 12's with no traction for 100 feet! Also ran the 215-70-14 tires so that hampered traction too.Sold it bought 4 cars with the money and kept buying/selling and fixing up.
Nice.
nice my 2000 r/t has 220k
You missed the best year then,. 1992 318 magnum was the fastest. I was out running stock 302 mustangs and lt1 camaros with a stock 318 magnum Dakota. After 92/93 the government stepped in with emissions and made dodge choke them down
@@kevin61906 no you weren't. stop making up stupid shit. i've raced both 5.0 mustangs and LT1 camaros. even the dakota r/t isn't close to a LT1. i've seen stock LT1 camaros run high 13s. don't make up stuff. those were 6 cylinders
Looks like keeping the headlining new for that era was a lot harder than keeping everything else new.
Hello andrewdunbar828, You're 100% correct about the headliner-sag issue.
This is thanks to The EPA requiring auto manufacturers to use environmentally
friendly, water-based glue to adhere the cloth material to the cabin roof of cars, trucks & vans. This was an industry-wide issue in high-humidity regions; such as Florida; where this Dodge Shelby Dakota resides.
It took several years until a glue was developed that resolved this issue & met the "ridiculous" EPA requirements.
Best regards from Yucatan Mexico,
Ben
It was! My Dad and I had a used car lot in the mid 90s and we spent a lot of time restoring 80s cars and trucks! ;)
I had an '89 Dakota in the mid to late 90s. Loved the truck, but the headliner was already sagging like this back in the 90s.
Dennis blowing the carbon out of the Syclone 😂😂😂 Beautiful truck 🤩
what carbon🤣
Great job Dennis and crew 👍🏻
I owned a Shelby Dakota for several years, that was a fun truck. Terrifying in the rain, or if you needed to come to a short stop, but a absolute blast to drive.
Im picking the Dakota, it hold a closer spot to my heart. But those GMCs are killer.
$16k in 1989 adjusted for inflation is $39,600 that Dakota was pretty expensive for its day
The perfect race of trucks would be the Ford Lightning, the Chevy SS 454 and the Ram SS_T.
I own 1458 Red ShelbyDakota.. Love it. I have t ocheck out that Museum..
All I did was watch this growing up
The four words every cahr guy (love Mark’s accent) wants to say: “Can I punch it”?
Thanks Dennis, that was a great show.
I worked on restoring the paint on a Shelby truck. Red like that one. It was a barn find with 20k miles and was purchased by a truck museum after it was finished. I'm not sure which one, but I was happy to have the opportunity to work on it.
Friend and I went to the Chevy dealer to look at Syclones I remember sitting in the driver's seat of a brand new one in 1991. Sales guy tried to sell us we were broke in our early 20's living with roommates. The syclone was way ahead of its time now performance and AWD is so common.
4:20 Side note, but that International is perfect.
lovely cars, it must have been like christmas come early being given the opportunity to drive those beautys
Good thing about the dakota, any L.A. smallblock bolts right in with no mods.
Syclone! ❤
AWD & a hairdryer! Yeah baby!
I had a 92 with the magnum 5.2l. That thing flew.
Yes they did they smoked fox body's 5.0
Maybe a 5.2 or a 5.9 would have kept up with the Syclone
@@samueljackson2478 if it was the small short bed with AWD. And yes I can say my old dodge would woops a fox body. I whooped many things with that truck. And it was ext cab and 4x4. It was no slouch.
Wow I’ve heard of the tycoon & typhoons but never have seen or heard about these Shelby Dodge Dakotas. That’s awesome 👏🏻 & literally like new still wow.
Owner of number 0828
Break boosting is necessary to break all the tires loose. Stock they can handle a little more boost from stock to get it past 300whp.
The transmission is also what helps get the power down, changing out the stock torque converter for more higher rpm stall speed will help take advantage of the power.
Power to weight is the strong point, next to doing awd donuts in the rain or snow. This vehicle was ahead of its time by mixing forced induction and awd into a pickup.
GM for the win every time, including breaking down and expensive repairs.
Cool cassette deck in that Shelby.
I remember both vehicles especially the gmc I couldn’t afford one at the time but they were monsters
Awesome episode!
I used to troll and smoke dakota's in my 89 S10 Tahoe😂😂😂
Had a 91 S10 swb 4.3, could only imagine what it was like to drive a syclone with that power to weight and awd. Miss that little S10.
haha I doubt that unless you did extensive work to the engine! My Dakota V6 would run 120-125 mph & would smoke a V6 S10 & couldnt touch my V8 Dakota even though the Chevy 4.3 is basically a 350 with 2 less cylinders! Im not taking away from the S10 as I loved them & had an '83, '86 & '88 but they were not as fast as my Dakotas
I have driven both of these trucks many times and done work on them. I can almost guarantee those s10's you raced with your Dakota were 2.8l v6 versions not the 4.3. The 2.8 were absolutely useless. But with just a little bit of work a 4.3 would walk ANY Dakota all day. Again I've been inside those trucks too many times, not taking anything against the Dakota though, they just weren't fast.
92 93 Dakota magnum motors 5 speed 391 gear nothing could touch them
@@markusa5521 I'm sayin...mine was a '92 but auto
I HAD A SYCLONE , LOVED IT
The GMC are awesome
And you can't fix the saggy headliner! You might be able to fix it easier if you don't wait much longer! Just giving a hard time great looking Shelby truck and a very awesome collection!
Great episode the guy has a lot of information and speaks well
I had a friend with one of these trucks with all the Mopar Performance parts. Also he had the dealer ship install 360 from the full size.
I like the quote about the Dakota: "it was not atall fast"
However, if i had to choose between the two i would go Dakota simply based on rarest.
Until this video i only knew about the Syclone... my dad had an s10 that was black and that truck is special in my memories but that dodge has got to be one of the rarest trucks ever produced.
As a kid I remember hanging out at American Sunroof on weekends while my Dad worked on the owners Auburn Boat tail speedster (my Dad worked at the GM tech center across the street in Warren Michigan)…I saw a dozen or so Typhoon/ Cyclones lined up in the process of being modified for dealerships…it was like seeing a UFO or something, I remember wanting the typhoon tho ever since😏
I'm Probably the one that put the 1st Set of Tires and did the 4 Wheel Alignment on that Syclone at the Firestone Mastercare in Madison Heights MI. PAS Inc was Right Behind our shop so they used Us for Repairs, Tires and Alignments, took 4 Guys to Align that thing back then, and They Were FAST, Everyone we did had "Tweeked Boost" and would Hit 100MPH in a City Block!. @MyClassicCarTV
“Syclone” …😂🤣 👏👏👌
Owned two GNs, always wanted a Syclone.
That GMC is beautiful I would love to have one !
I'm sure differentiating between "quickest" and "fastest" comes up. The SRT10 is the fastest truck.
and that truck came out when?
I watched your show as a kid on speed channel glad to see you still do this show thanks for sharing I subscribed!
Professor, you've done it again!
Classics Trucks with UHMPH!
I remember seeing the Syclones in Dubai, as Police Trucks.
But the cops hated them because who wants a Black Truck in the dessert?
The Syclone engine has nothing in common with the Grand National. They are 2 different blocks.
You do have to give credit to GM for producing this vehicle. I just wish they did the same today vs copying and just keeping up with other pickups 2022-23
Don't under estimate the Shelby charger! My oldest son had an 86 and was clocked at 148 by our local sheriff who came knocking on my door at 10pm!
My mom had a 79 Charger,black.. used to ride in the back hatchback
The first time I saw a sports pick-up I laughed. The last time I saw one I did the same. Though to be honest some of these newer ones do look good. Can't lie.
I had a Shelby Dakota, It was a great winter beater.
Love the headliner droop on the dodge.
I remember Bob Fish dealership out in West Bend, Wisconsin had one in their showroom. I feel in love and dreamt about owning it. Of course, I was just a young guy and couldn’t afford it. I know if I had it, would be taken care of and probably kept it as my baby.
RIP Carol Shelby and Mickey Thompson!
I don't feel so bad about my headliner in my half million mile dakota now
100 percent spelled with a S!!! Best friend owned one!
Great video
Fun!
the GMC Syclone is the best
This dude has the best mustache in the business.
Dream vehicles. They are slow in todays standards, for most people these vehicle's are just some old cheap junk but man they are so cool
I think my 1990 Ford Ranger with a 4cylinder is fast, I'd lose my friggin mind in that Syclone.
I wish I would've waited one more year, before buying my first new truck. I had a 78 Chevrolet Silverado, 1/2 ton long box 2wd. And sold it for a new 1990 Silverado, top of the line back then. Regular cab, long box 2wd, 350. It was $13,744 out the door with my dad's gm discount. I got 285,000 miles out of it before it was involved in a accident by someone looking at their cellphone, relatively new in those days.! 2001.? Always had a need for a full size truck, but was still living at home, if I would have waited, who knows? I may have bought one.!
love those box body Chevys, my 1st was a '76 & had a '83, '86. '87 & a '90 454SS
I inherited my grandfathers 93 Chevy regular cab long bed, 350, with 120,000 miles on it. Spent 22 years in a garage being driven just enough to keep it in good shape. Absolutely love that truck.
It's the most reliable car in my driveway, ac still works, still looks beautiful....
It's a shame yours was taken my the road.
My hot rod project truck happens to be a 4 speed, 454, 76 Silverado stepside.
@ryurc3033 with the square bodied chevies so popular now, I wish I would have kept mine. ! Or could've bought several at low prices back in the early 90s, dirt cheap. Now, their like $8000+ for a project truck. Same for a 90s. Funny how the hobby changes.
All American muscle love it ❤
Definitely gotta do something with the headliner in that Shelby
What's truly sad is that less than 10 years after these Shelby models were produced Chrysler produced the Dodge Dakota R/T with the 360 Magnum, and I can attest that it was quick...but nothing crazy, it was just fun. I blew one sideways in the rain at 60 MPH with a heavy foot. I also drove one of the original OBS Ford Lightnings in black with red trim and a gray cloth interior with the 351 fuel injected V8 and it was alot of fun too, but still not fast.
I love those Chrysler Shelbys! I really have a soft spot for Daytonas
side note though that 80s 90s fabric sag on the roof
Looked good sitting still
I like how the dodge sat garage kept and is pristine yet, the headliner still sags! 😂
Love this! I have been wanting for someone to compare these two awesome trucks! Would love to have both of these!!
Don’t have a Shelby but I’ve got a 99 Dakota r/t I want to start fixing up think their gonna gain value since so few were made
It was stated that the size of the engine was increased from 3.8 Litres to 4.3 Litres is not accurate. The 231/3.8 Buick built V6 in the GN/GNX was a totally different engine from the 262/4.3 Chevrolet built V6 in the Syclone/Typhoon but both being GM built Turbocharged V6s, they sound so similar. The 3.8 had a firing order of 165432, I believe that the 4.3 was a different firing order but I could be mistaken.
Really cool to see this. I was around when the originals came out new. I seen the headliner is falling down in the Shelby truck lol
That headliner in the Shelby was already drooping with such low miles.
It’s not miles that causes it. It’s time.
Nice video, thank you!
The Shelby Dakota doesn't have an electric fan because Shelby decided to give it one for better performance, it has said fan because the original Dakota was never designed to accommodate a V8 and therefore couldn't fit the mechanical fan/fan clutch, and that's why the Shelby Dakota has 5 more horsepower than the same 318 in a contemporary Dodge Ram pickup... it's also why the 91+ Dakota that could be had with a V8 had a nose that was not flat like this first gen Dakota but was instead more convex in order to give the room for the 318 and fan/fan clutch assembly.
That makes sense. Surely doing just for those 5hp wouldnt make much sense as a mod in comparison to other things that could have been done.
The Syclone was faster than the corvettes of the same years.
That Dakota was faster lol
@davidfoster5321 Nope. The Sylcone was twice as fast. Dakota had 8.7s 0-60, Syclone had 4.3s 0-60.
It was quicker but it wasn't remotely as fast, let alone faster.
@JyroOne you were talking about a vette....Stevie wonder could see the syclone or typhoon was faster than a shelby dakota lol
@JyroOne well duh...I was comparing to a vette same as op
日本人です。私はsycloneを2台所有していました。最高のマシーンでした。今はtyphoonを1台所有しています。両車ともエンジンは同じでも走りはまったく別物でsycloneの方が圧倒的に速かったです。sycloneを手放したことを今は後悔しています。もう2度と手には入らないでしょう。この日本では。
awesome trucks
I see a convertable one at my local walmart all the time.
I'm hoping I can see that museum
The quality of the gmc is much better then the dodge though I love to have either or.
The Sonoma GT was an awesome truck also. It's a nonturbo version of the same truck.