One potential new EV cost that doesn't come with a gas car is a home charger. Do you need a level 2 EVSE at home? ➡ ruclips.net/video/r-_OmKXWYfM/видео.html
Very well done, thanks! I saw another video that said it would cost (for one year) $749 for our Tesla model 3 maintenance! So far at 6 months we have spent $0.00!
One thing that is vital for all vehicles with regenerative braking is to inspect the rotors and pads each time you rotate tires for needed preventative maintenance of the brakes. The problem is that as the brakes are applied much less often and depending where you live the rotors may corrode and corrode to a point where they can damage the brake pads reducing the contact patch between the rotors and pads reducing braking performance when you need it most. With each tire rotation, the brakes should be inspected by a mechanic or someone trained for what to look.
@@jazzfan7491you missed the point. Many Evs rarely use their brakes enough to the point that rust (not just surface level kind) can develop on the brake parts.
@@RiverRatWA57 Brake fluid is brake fluid, and from what my mechanic has said, it breaks down after around 10 years. Just because you got lucky doesn't mean it's a good, or smart thing to do. Regardless of what kind of car you drive.
I used to be a mechanic. Now truck driver. I’m getting an EV just for this reason alone. Maintenance. I don’t know why but I hate doing maintenance on my own vehicles. Mom and dad’s car? Bring it over. Wifeys car? No problem. My own? It’s a drag. That’s not to say I won’t have an ICE vehicle. I love my 2002 Tacoma as a work truck but to have an EV as a daily driver just makes more sense to me.
So what you're calling a "lie" is you forgetting that L2 charging is AC requiring conversion to DC, which has a loss of some of the power. It's not a lie.
I’ll tell you something else I save HUGE on, vehicle registration. Here in AZ it could cost you around $500 per year to register a new ICE machine. It costs me a grand total of $45 every 5 years. Add that up over the course of 5 years. Kaching kaching.
Any favorable tax incentives are temporary, at best. EVs will have to pay their fair share of road maintenance (some say they should pay MORE because their heavy weights tear up the roads faster).
Now, have EV under consideration. Apparently, many vehicle technicians HATE repairing vehicle engines. They are messing up many customer engine repairs.
You forgot a very important thing...EV's still have reduction gears and differentials. That oil needs to be changed, just like in a combustion car. It usually needs to be done every 60,000 to 100,000 miles. Some even have a spin-on oil filter, so yes, you still need an oil and filter change! Only much less often.
My thoughts on the tire differential: Cars have been getting heavier every passing year. The new M5 is heavier than my XC40 reacharge. Cars and SUVs average 3200-3800 LBS. EVs are 3800 and up with an average of 4000 lbs. Eventually the selection of tires for extra load will be more common and therefore the costs will come down. There will be certain options that either give off less road noise and or increase range, but for those who just want an inexpensive good tire, there are already options. Just shop extra load or look carefully at the spec of the tire to confirm weight limits and shoulder rigidity.
Don’t forget the maintenance on a garage to store vehicle in if you live in an area that gets really cold in winter. A lot of people don’t have access to an enclosed garage to protect these batteries. Didn’t we see this in Chicago this last winter?
In my experience EVs win. No more oil changes, coolant flushes, no belts or or hight temp hoses to wear out. Breaks last way longer as you don't use them hardly in an EV. Definitely more fun to driver. The instant torque is awesome. Mine has LFP batteries that should last 400k miles minimum.
I will definitely agree with That-Guy. The EV vehicles are a blast to drive. My Tesla vehicle has plenty of acceleration that my Monte Carlo never had.
The battery for a Tesla MYLR (the car I own) costs $15,000 to replace after battery and labor costs. I don't know where you're getting $50k, but the way you make this claim and assume it applies to all EVs and all batteries says to me that you're just trolling.
The warranty on my EV's battery is 8 years or 120,000 miles, and it warrants the battery will have at least 70% of it's original capacity by that point. The vast majority of Teslas retain between 80 and 90% of their original battery capacity after 200,000 miles. Even then, it's rare for a battery to need replacement within the lifetime of an EV unless you physically damage it. Especially if you are talking about a Tesla. Battery replacement is a point of FUD they use to scare people away from buying EVs.
None of this means anything if I can’t do the job myself. I can maintain my own ICE for most preventative stuff and buy parts anywhere for the most part. EV goes against the concept of car ownership so why should I pay more for less control of my vehicle? It’s a rich city persons game, not for the working class.
That's a really good point that I hadn't considered. Thank you for bringing it up. However, I don't know how to maintain a gas vehicle on my own either... I'm not particularly hard on my vehicles so I usually keep them for around 8-10 years with little issue, but I always pay someone to do anything more complicated than changing my wipers. This is still a very good point for those who prolong their vehicle's life with their own knowledge and maintenance but I think this will change in the next decade. The only reason no one knows how to do heavy personal maintenance on electric vehicles is because of how new they are. Companies love to gatekeep their methods but this never lasts. Every car company since their invention has tried to keep their inner workings secret from the public in sometimes vicious and violent ways, but no one can stop progress. Not even billionaires.
@@EVPulse You just can`t put your hands inside the engine compartment at starts. It has a real danger if you do that without right procedures and tools.
I know you mean well but this tire wear myth needs to be put to rest. Weight has very little impact on tire wear, it's people being heavy on the pedal. Otherwise these tires can easily last just about the same as a the average gas cars.
One potential new EV cost that doesn't come with a gas car is a home charger. Do you need a level 2 EVSE at home? ruclips.net/video/r-_OmKXWYfM/видео.html
Youll actually replace tires twice as often on EVs because the tires rubber has not improved to handle the extra weight/friction caused by the weight. You'll spend $1k per tire 2 times. A year on EV tires vs normal vehicle tires that cost $200 each. Yep I'm convinced now, not....
Wow saving $250.00 vs ICE. When the vehicle like the lightning, which is what I'll need to replace my truck costs $40,000 dollars more to purchase. That annual $250.00 savings does not justify a $900/$1000 per month car loan payment. I'm limited to $450 per month.
@nimabeee_playzyt3339 yeah sure, but many owners on the youtube that have regrets, say these tires wear out just as fast as normal ones and cost nearly double in price. So in essence they are being replaced "twice as fast" by the fact they cost about the same as replacing 2 full sets of regular tires. I would be up for getting an EV pickup truck, I just hope they figure out how to make them competitive and cheaper. For example, gut out all the electronics/ technology. I would prefer if it just had a battery, gas pedal, and a decent truck frame. I dont see an EV needing all these computers and computer screens in them. Just put an analog speedometer and a few indicator lights (check engine, check tires, etc...) There is no need for software, besides what is needed to deploy Airbags, energy levels. Most everything can be operated by switches/circuits such as blinkers, lights, A/C, Park/Drive/Nuetral/reverse. I imagine the price could come down drastically.
Tire replacement depends on what kind of tires you buy and how you drive. If you get cheaper tires, they won't last at long. If you punch the accelerator and drive it like you stole it, then you're going to have a lot of tire replacements, no matter what you drive. But of you drive it like you're trying to get from Point A to Point B safely, and you have good tires, you are still going to get about 40-50k miles of range from your tires before they need replacement. Which is what I was getting from my ICE vehicles, regardless of what the tire was rated for or how I drove my car.
@@peterhess6039 what are the 2ndary functions that couldn't be ran from the main battery pack? Phones don't need a second battery? Electric RC's don't need a 2nd battery?
One potential new EV cost that doesn't come with a gas car is a home charger. Do you need a level 2 EVSE at home? ➡ ruclips.net/video/r-_OmKXWYfM/видео.html
Very well done, thanks! I saw another video that said it would cost (for one year) $749 for our Tesla model 3 maintenance! So far at 6 months we have spent $0.00!
That's a lot of wiper fluid
If you don't like spending on tires, don't get vehicles with giant wheels, don't teach the gassers a lesson at every light
One thing that is vital for all vehicles with regenerative braking is to inspect the rotors and pads each time you rotate tires for needed preventative maintenance of the brakes. The problem is that as the brakes are applied much less often and depending where you live the rotors may corrode and corrode to a point where they can damage the brake pads reducing the contact patch between the rotors and pads reducing braking performance when you need it most. With each tire rotation, the brakes should be inspected by a mechanic or someone trained for what to look.
Plus the car is far heavier - thus more work for the brakes
@@jazzfan7491
Actually less work for the breaks because the motor(s) take on most of the breaking by returning power to the battery.
Speaking of brakes, I owned a pickup for 30yrs, never changed the brake fluid, always stopped just fine.
@@jazzfan7491you missed the point. Many Evs rarely use their brakes enough to the point that rust (not just surface level kind) can develop on the brake parts.
@@RiverRatWA57 Brake fluid is brake fluid, and from what my mechanic has said, it breaks down after around 10 years. Just because you got lucky doesn't mean it's a good, or smart thing to do. Regardless of what kind of car you drive.
I used to be a mechanic. Now truck driver. I’m getting an EV just for this reason alone. Maintenance. I don’t know why but I hate doing maintenance on my own vehicles. Mom and dad’s car? Bring it over. Wifeys car? No problem. My own? It’s a drag. That’s not to say I won’t have an ICE vehicle. I love my 2002 Tacoma as a work truck but to have an EV as a daily driver just makes more sense to me.
I only ever worked on cars the same money, didn't enjoy it
Wireless charging will never be as efficient as a direct connection, ad is a lie
So what you're calling a "lie" is you forgetting that L2 charging is AC requiring conversion to DC, which has a loss of some of the power. It's not a lie.
Put the car in chill mode and tires will go 40k miles.
I’ll tell you something else I save HUGE on, vehicle registration. Here in AZ it could cost you around $500 per year to register a new ICE machine. It costs me a grand total of $45 every 5 years. Add that up over the course of 5 years. Kaching kaching.
Any favorable tax incentives are temporary, at best. EVs will have to pay their fair share of road maintenance (some say they should pay MORE because their heavy weights tear up the roads faster).
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Don't forget the depreciation!
@@EpicDrew15 Sure, but it's foolish to think depreciation doesn't factor into the overall cost of owning a vehicle.
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Now, have EV under consideration. Apparently, many vehicle technicians HATE repairing vehicle engines. They are messing up many customer engine repairs.
Nice.
You forgot a very important thing...EV's still have reduction gears and differentials. That oil needs to be changed, just like in a combustion car. It usually needs to be done every 60,000 to 100,000 miles. Some even have a spin-on oil filter, so yes, you still need an oil and filter change! Only much less often.
They say a lot of craziness tho, Electric drive unit: Replace every 97,500 miles, no
My thoughts on the tire differential: Cars have been getting heavier every passing year. The new M5 is heavier than my XC40 reacharge.
Cars and SUVs average 3200-3800 LBS. EVs are 3800 and up with an average of 4000 lbs.
Eventually the selection of tires for extra load will be more common and therefore the costs will come down. There will be certain options that either give off less road noise and or increase range, but for those who just want an inexpensive good tire, there are already options.
Just shop extra load or look carefully at the spec of the tire to confirm weight limits and shoulder rigidity.
Don’t forget the maintenance on a garage to store vehicle in if you live in an area that gets really cold in winter. A lot of people don’t have access to an enclosed garage to protect these batteries. Didn’t we see this in Chicago this last winter?
It gets really cold in Norway without issue. Regularly. Chicago’s issues centered around charging equipment and not batteries.
Can you do a video on the quantino twenty-five nanoflowcell and bi ION fuel?
All in all, is it EV or ICE that is easier to maintain as well as more fun to drive? Which is more durable as well?
In my experience EVs win.
No more oil changes, coolant flushes, no belts or or hight temp hoses to wear out. Breaks last way longer as you don't use them hardly in an EV.
Definitely more fun to driver. The instant torque is awesome.
Mine has LFP batteries that should last 400k miles minimum.
@@That-Guy_I can’t wait to go ev
ICE.
I was always a gear head growing up, but now I don’t think I’ll buy another ice car. EVs are just too easy!
I will definitely agree with That-Guy. The EV vehicles are a blast to drive. My Tesla vehicle has plenty of acceleration that my Monte Carlo never had.
no mention of ins and if it gets broken
Who considers insurance maintenance?
Or 50,000$ battery replacement should it get damaged
Says who?
What’s with all these people thinking you need a battery replacement after a few years? More misinformed I guess
I own an EV and I think the battery replacement cost is whatever the manufacturer wants to charge.
The battery for a Tesla MYLR (the car I own) costs $15,000 to replace after battery and labor costs. I don't know where you're getting $50k, but the way you make this claim and assume it applies to all EVs and all batteries says to me that you're just trolling.
How about the batteries how much does it cost to replace them. Isn’t that a requirement every 5 years?
No. Nobody needs a new battery after 5 years unless there’s a defect which is covered under the battery warranty.
The warranty on my EV's battery is 8 years or 120,000 miles, and it warrants the battery will have at least 70% of it's original capacity by that point. The vast majority of Teslas retain between 80 and 90% of their original battery capacity after 200,000 miles. Even then, it's rare for a battery to need replacement within the lifetime of an EV unless you physically damage it. Especially if you are talking about a Tesla. Battery replacement is a point of FUD they use to scare people away from buying EVs.
the 12v? Possibly but most 12v in ICE cars have that same replacement guideline
None of this means anything if I can’t do the job myself. I can maintain my own ICE for most preventative stuff and buy parts anywhere for the most part.
EV goes against the concept of car ownership so why should I pay more for less control of my vehicle? It’s a rich city persons game, not for the working class.
You can also maintain an EV for most of the preventative stuff. Name some things a normal person do on an ICE they can’t do on an EV.
That's a really good point that I hadn't considered. Thank you for bringing it up. However, I don't know how to maintain a gas vehicle on my own either... I'm not particularly hard on my vehicles so I usually keep them for around 8-10 years with little issue, but I always pay someone to do anything more complicated than changing my wipers.
This is still a very good point for those who prolong their vehicle's life with their own knowledge and maintenance but I think this will change in the next decade. The only reason no one knows how to do heavy personal maintenance on electric vehicles is because of how new they are. Companies love to gatekeep their methods but this never lasts. Every car company since their invention has tried to keep their inner workings secret from the public in sometimes vicious and violent ways, but no one can stop progress. Not even billionaires.
@EVPulse normal people have been doing full restoration and rebuilds in backyards for generations.
@@EVPulse You just can`t put your hands inside the engine compartment at starts. It has a real danger if you do that without right procedures and tools.
Stop being poor
Only oil changes, which is pretty easy. Most people will get rid of their cars by 5 years.
I know you mean well but this tire wear myth needs to be put to rest.
Weight has very little impact on tire wear, it's people being heavy on the pedal. Otherwise these tires can easily last just about the same as a the average gas cars.
We’ve had tire manufacturers tell us that heavier cars can contribute to tire wear.
One potential new EV cost that doesn't come with a gas car is a home charger. Do you need a level 2 EVSE at home? ruclips.net/video/r-_OmKXWYfM/видео.html
Youll actually replace tires twice as often on EVs because the tires rubber has not improved to handle the extra weight/friction caused by the weight.
You'll spend $1k per tire 2 times. A year on EV tires vs normal vehicle tires that cost $200 each.
Yep I'm convinced now, not....
Wow saving $250.00 vs ICE. When the vehicle like the lightning, which is what I'll need to replace my truck costs $40,000 dollars more to purchase.
That annual $250.00 savings does not justify a $900/$1000 per month car loan payment. I'm limited to $450 per month.
You do realize that ev tries are made for them specifically, right? Greater durability, noise canceling, low rolling resistance. Ect.
@nimabeee_playzyt3339 yeah sure, but many owners on the youtube that have regrets, say these tires wear out just as fast as normal ones and cost nearly double in price. So in essence they are being replaced "twice as fast" by the fact they cost about the same as replacing 2 full sets of regular tires.
I would be up for getting an EV pickup truck, I just hope they figure out how to make them competitive and cheaper. For example, gut out all the electronics/ technology. I would prefer if it just had a battery, gas pedal, and a decent truck frame. I dont see an EV needing all these computers and computer screens in them. Just put an analog speedometer and a few indicator lights (check engine, check tires, etc...) There is no need for software, besides what is needed to deploy Airbags, energy levels. Most everything can be operated by switches/circuits such as blinkers, lights, A/C, Park/Drive/Nuetral/reverse.
I imagine the price could come down drastically.
My mini Cooper electric tire are around $200 each.
Tire replacement depends on what kind of tires you buy and how you drive. If you get cheaper tires, they won't last at long. If you punch the accelerator and drive it like you stole it, then you're going to have a lot of tire replacements, no matter what you drive. But of you drive it like you're trying to get from Point A to Point B safely, and you have good tires, you are still going to get about 40-50k miles of range from your tires before they need replacement. Which is what I was getting from my ICE vehicles, regardless of what the tire was rated for or how I drove my car.
I still dont understand why an EV needs a 12v lead battery.
You need a battery to run the secondary functions
The main batteries are for driving the wheels
@@peterhess6039 what are the 2ndary functions that couldn't be ran from the main battery pack? Phones don't need a second battery? Electric RC's don't need a 2nd battery?
because if the main battery runs out you are left stranded. much safer to have secondary functions with their own batrery
@@marco1824it activates the contactors that allows the drive battery to be disconnected when not in use