Also, the screw points on the front of the keyboard, through the carbon fiber, don't look great. They trigger my sense that dust needs to be wiped off.
I find it tasteful if you were to have, say, a Porsche or Cyberpunk-esque themed desk space, but I totally agree if you're going for a cleaner aesthetic will definitely look out of place.
Scott you’re killing me with these intros, haha! I had seen a few vids on this board before, but hadn’t realized it was effectively a plateless PCB gasket mount with foam. At least from my own personal experience, that config can definitely sound very deep, super interesting to see this in a low profile board!
@@ImOnMy116 haha thank you for your continued support! Can't believe I've been doing this for like 3 years now haha. I wish I could have ripped apart the keyboard more!
The Edge is my travel keyboard, and I work remotely. I take the keyboard into work on the days I'm in the office. The other day, I started typing, and the guy in the cubicle across from me popped up. The sound of the keyboard was caught his attention. I'm pretty sure he was going to look in to purchasing one.
Great vid. I have been wanting to try one of these out for awhile now. I'm a low-pro enthusiast so I'm really glad that more keyboards like this are getting the shine they deserve!
The Lofree Flow is better than you'd think. I don't like low profile in general but I love it! It sounds and feels amazing. It competes with a lot of my other regular height keyboards.
Now they just need to make a full size version to smash a Cherry KW X ULP and finnally provide a sensible improvement to a logitech Illuminated Keyboard.
Now, if only there were laptops where you could drop in a mechanical keyboard like this one. Also, the early bird price through Kickstarter seemed reasonable... 150$. Totally forgot about the board then though... Doh. Would have paired nicely with my tablets.
I'd pay about a quarter of the price, maybe half but it doesn't look good unless it's upside down and how often are you going to see that side of it? I guess covering the carbon fibre wouldn't be too hard, I just don't see the point when something this basic costs so much.
I almost want to see Lofree make another thin board using the Cherry MX ULP switches. I also want to see other manufacturers take a shot at the ULP design, since Cherry has such limited supply contracts for the switch and won't openly sell them. I don't think proper ULPs will ever be hotswap, at least not without rethinking how hotswapping works, they'd just be too fragile for the typical design and modularizing them into components would make assembly difficult; not that the current hotair/hotpad-only soldering method of the MX ULPs isn't already difficult enough. Though I'd also be curious to see someone take Apple's lowest profile, IIRC it also shares the title of quickest actuation, though I forget which specific iteration of their switches holds this title, and adapt that to be a mechanical-style scissor/butterfly; people like their keyboards for a reason, it just sucks that there's no switch variations, and there's a subset of the low profile community that outright does want these superspeed switches in other boards.
I gotta admit it does look super clean but seeing the screws so close to the edges makes me wonder if it can survive travel or drops. Aesthetical, it looks cleaner than the nuphy nos75 but functionality of use would probably better on the nuphy due to the layout. If they made a white version I might bite tho 😋
Honestly, I don't think the font looks that terrible. Ok, maybe this font specifically looks kind of off, and their letter placement looks terrible, but not every font should be similar to Arial or Helvetica. Give square fonts a chance too.
I prefer low profile keyboards and I was quite disappointed to learn how thick custom mechanical keyboards are. I've been using the logitech MX Keys and MX Mechanical for years, and I like their height but their sound and feel leaves something to be desired. I first tried the Keychron low profile, but then learned there are virtually no switches for it, so it's barely customizable. Looking forward to the day when we get more low profile cases and switches.
I just saw a video about the new Nuphy custom low profile board. it looks pretty nice and a huge step up from the usual low profile fair. I recommend checking it out!
"Oh no the font sucks" Meanwhile: trillions of keycap sets out and about in the world to be had. They also have like 3-4+ keycap sets you can choose from.
And yet...not a single one of the low-profile manufacturers has managed to put out an ISO keyboard that actually has the correct keys on it...and nobody makes a proper ISO keycap set, they're all just "Oh, a big enter key will do it" and leave it at that. Except Keychron, of course, and even they won't support it with their keycap sets, you're just stuck with the ones that come with the keyboard.
I don't see any international options on this keyboard and they don't have a 100% option. I don't use my PC only for gaming. So, for productivity, this sadly is not great, because i would like a low profile keyboard.
2:10 “High tech materials like magnesium-” *plays footage of the 1955 Le Mans Disaster* 🔥💀 All jokes aside, maybe they should actually put this keyboard *into* a laptop
You should check out the new Iqunix Magi65. It's like a combination of the best parts of the LoFree Flow and Nuphy Air75 V2. Best low profile keyboard I've used, and I only use low profile boards.
Magnesium is a TERRIBLE material if your goal is high stiffness in a low volume. It's got great strength-to-weight ratio. You can build really lightweight things with it. Great for aerospace and for sports. And it's also got the interesting property that the body will resorb it over time, making it a potentially useful material for bone implants. But if you make a keyboard out of it, it will flex a lot. What's more, it's not springy like steel or titanium can be; you can permanently deform or even crack it if you're not careful. Think of aluminum's worst attributes, and magnesium has all of them except worse. It's spooky-lightweight though, so that's why you'd make use of it.
I got this on kickstarter for 129.00 on the 24 hour launch. After trying it its not worth it really unless you really need something thin and light I wasnt really impressed with it against even boards like rainy 75 its not that good! it feels cheap.
I don't get this keyboard value. If you need to travel, then your laptop has a keyboard with a similar layout. If people need a keyboard for stationary use, that's why we make the keyboards with fine CNC metals, regardless with the weight, the thickness gives better typing sound and feeling, and much more accessories for the builds. There are only few things can be made by CNC metals, the keyboard, the monitor backplate, and the computer case, generally the monitor backplate and the computer case have pricy cost for the most people, but CNC keyboard is more affordable. Carbon fiber material is better to be used for the mouse and headphone.
Lofree's aftersales service is terrible. Releasing a product with beta firmware is somewhat acceptable, but not providing any firmware updates is completely unacceptable! My Flow keyboard looks great, but the firmware is very unreliable.
Gaming peripheral designers: -Give it fonts that the year 2000 thought would look futuristic and edgy. -Make it look like a Decepticon. -Give it RGB and make it go through the entire rainbow to look like a neon lit Cyberpunk district.
Sounds good, but also so wrong: mainly horrible fonts, and the out-of-style carbon fiber that remind me of cheap fake carbon fiber sticker that plastered on everything imaginable trend a few years ago. And the price...
The G915 is far from perfect. I owned the tkl version and the keycaps are thin and abs so they get greasy overtime. The sound isn't great and the stabilisers aren't good.
Do not buy this keyboard. bad font, unusable in low light due to bad rgb, unmodifiable beyond keycap swap I guess. covers part of the trackpad, 1u right ctrl fn alt(would it kill them to make the spacebar 0.5u shorter?). Insert key because who knows why.
While bad font is true (though subjective)... 1. Not a lot of people rely on the back-lit labels on keyboards; there isn't any lighting on most custom boards 2. I don't see the need for mods on this production pre-built 3. 1u control keys are standard on this layout 4.dont put it on ur computer then, plus covering ur track pad would not affect the function of the track pad. Overall, your complaints represent probably a slim demographic of its potential buyers in my opinion; it seems to me not a lot of people would find these complaints as problems.
@@Bwucey 1. Less than 20% of people can touchtype properly. 2. what if people just want to mod? you'd be complaining if the switches were soldered. 3. Standard doesn't mean good. Rubber dome keyboards were the standard once. 4. if it covers part of the trackpad then it affects its functionality and means it's not made with that in mind, or they don't care enough. or they give that 'palm rest' feature more priority. Overall this keyboard is made for people that want slim stuff because of aesthetics. it offers 0 functional improvement. Which of my complains would be considered a problem?
And they don't have other localisations. I need a german layout, but they only have US boards. I saw this video in my recommendations and it's frustrating to see all these localised products, which i have no use for.
apple keyboard is much thinner than yours and it fully bluetooth wireless and also it has charge port for that too so Apple Store do sell those at good price for it and also it pretty light weight too and the keys are much thinner than yours is big and thick keys so I like mine is the best and all so thin and light got that and go there and se for yourself then
Love the look of the keyboard, hate that font though
Also, the screw points on the front of the keyboard, through the carbon fiber, don't look great. They trigger my sense that dust needs to be wiped off.
I find it tasteful if you were to have, say, a Porsche or Cyberpunk-esque themed desk space, but I totally agree if you're going for a cleaner aesthetic will definitely look out of place.
I just see PORSCHE.
The font is just terrible...
agree
Scott you’re killing me with these intros, haha! I had seen a few vids on this board before, but hadn’t realized it was effectively a plateless PCB gasket mount with foam. At least from my own personal experience, that config can definitely sound very deep, super interesting to see this in a low profile board!
@@ImOnMy116 haha thank you for your continued support! Can't believe I've been doing this for like 3 years now haha. I wish I could have ripped apart the keyboard more!
@@Keyboredthat’s wild! I entered my first GB (a Bubble 75) on your recommendation probably about 3 years ago, time flies!!
all i want is more options for low profile 96% keyboards with knobs, or low profile keyboards with knobs in general, really
I agree with comments, Razer wants their shitty font back.
Will be interesting to compare this to the new NuPhy NOS75, great review! Always love to see a new video! That stand is the bomb IMHO!
That intro 💀🤣
The Edge is my travel keyboard, and I work remotely. I take the keyboard into work on the days I'm in the office. The other day, I started typing, and the guy in the cubicle across from me popped up. The sound of the keyboard was caught his attention. I'm pretty sure he was going to look in to purchasing one.
so many people have asked me about low profile mechanical keyboards.
Thanks for making this video.
Great vid. I have been wanting to try one of these out for awhile now. I'm a low-pro enthusiast so I'm really glad that more keyboards like this are getting the shine they deserve!
I have one of these. It's great. It replaced my Logitech MX Mechanical as soon as it arrived because it's just so much more comfortable to type on
The Lofree Flow is better than you'd think. I don't like low profile in general but I love it! It sounds and feels amazing. It competes with a lot of my other regular height keyboards.
The missing 2.4 is a big deal for me. Went with the Nuphy Air 75 V2 because of this. It is a great keyboard all around and low profile as well.
Is the carbon fiber sealed or are you embedding fibres into your body via your palms as you type?
Now they just need to make a full size version to smash a Cherry KW X ULP and finnally provide a sensible improvement to a logitech Illuminated Keyboard.
Now, if only there were laptops where you could drop in a mechanical keyboard like this one.
Also, the early bird price through Kickstarter seemed reasonable... 150$. Totally forgot about the board then though... Doh. Would have paired nicely with my tablets.
I'd pay about a quarter of the price, maybe half but it doesn't look good unless it's upside down and how often are you going to see that side of it? I guess covering the carbon fibre wouldn't be too hard, I just don't see the point when something this basic costs so much.
I almost want to see Lofree make another thin board using the Cherry MX ULP switches. I also want to see other manufacturers take a shot at the ULP design, since Cherry has such limited supply contracts for the switch and won't openly sell them. I don't think proper ULPs will ever be hotswap, at least not without rethinking how hotswapping works, they'd just be too fragile for the typical design and modularizing them into components would make assembly difficult; not that the current hotair/hotpad-only soldering method of the MX ULPs isn't already difficult enough. Though I'd also be curious to see someone take Apple's lowest profile, IIRC it also shares the title of quickest actuation, though I forget which specific iteration of their switches holds this title, and adapt that to be a mechanical-style scissor/butterfly; people like their keyboards for a reason, it just sucks that there's no switch variations, and there's a subset of the low profile community that outright does want these superspeed switches in other boards.
Kailh x-switches are currently the smallest on the market, but no one seems to be using them
this, with keychron font would be nice
Dang Scott roasting himself lolol
@@xpinoyxgoodness gotta know your limitations haha
I was told the switches are soldered and are not hot swappable...is this true Scott?
I gotta admit it does look super clean but seeing the screws so close to the edges makes me wonder if it can survive travel or drops. Aesthetical, it looks cleaner than the nuphy nos75 but functionality of use would probably better on the nuphy due to the layout. If they made a white version I might bite tho 😋
I can't type for toffee. Still enjoy watching about the engineering and technology inside a keyboard.
Can it be lubed? And are switches hotswappable?
It’s plateless so probably no, but I don’t see why it needs lubing.
@@polynotgone8349 any keyboard I've had regardless of material performed and sounded better when lubed. That's why
i did not realize you lived in Korea until I recognized the apartment architecture lmao. Genuinely thought you were based in the US
진짜 궁금한 키보드!!! 소리도 너무 매력적이에요🤩🤩
@@review.L 네~ 생각보다 소리가 너무 좋았어요! ㅎㅎ
What mouse is that?
What brand of shirt are you wearing
I have a keyboard: Fintie eb030. it is thinner than this thing. This one looks good though. I do wish more keyboards where on the thinner side though.
1:54 just rocking horse science
on an unrelated note. Your T shirt is awesome. Where'd you get it lol
Honestly, I don't think the font looks that terrible.
Ok, maybe this font specifically looks kind of off, and their letter placement looks terrible, but not every font should be similar to Arial or Helvetica.
Give square fonts a chance too.
How the system file check is "Magnesium" a high tech material? It's on the periodic table, it's not very tech at all....
I prefer low profile keyboards and I was quite disappointed to learn how thick custom mechanical keyboards are. I've been using the logitech MX Keys and MX Mechanical for years, and I like their height but their sound and feel leaves something to be desired. I first tried the Keychron low profile, but then learned there are virtually no switches for it, so it's barely customizable. Looking forward to the day when we get more low profile cases and switches.
I just saw a video about the new Nuphy custom low profile board. it looks pretty nice and a huge step up from the usual low profile fair. I recommend checking it out!
"Oh no the font sucks" Meanwhile: trillions of keycap sets out and about in the world to be had. They also have like 3-4+ keycap sets you can choose from.
i really interest in this one
And yet...not a single one of the low-profile manufacturers has managed to put out an ISO keyboard that actually has the correct keys on it...and nobody makes a proper ISO keycap set, they're all just "Oh, a big enter key will do it" and leave it at that.
Except Keychron, of course, and even they won't support it with their keycap sets, you're just stuck with the ones that come with the keyboard.
I don't see any international options on this keyboard and they don't have a 100% option. I don't use my PC only for gaming. So, for productivity, this sadly is not great, because i would like a low profile keyboard.
2:10 “High tech materials like magnesium-”
*plays footage of the 1955 Le Mans Disaster* 🔥💀
All jokes aside, maybe they should actually put this keyboard *into* a laptop
FINALLY
Kinda want one,,,long as it goes "click clack click"
As a low profile enjoyer, this is nice. I've been using my Keychron K3 forever because nothing really stands out beyond that. Font is terrible.
You should check out the new Iqunix Magi65. It's like a combination of the best parts of the LoFree Flow and Nuphy Air75 V2. Best low profile keyboard I've used, and I only use low profile boards.
Sounds like more of a "clack" to me but it really sounds good to me.
That intro 😂😂😂
It does thock
who let those Razer engineers on the lofree team lmao, that font is just not it lol
and they ruined it with that horrible font .......
Magnesium is a TERRIBLE material if your goal is high stiffness in a low volume.
It's got great strength-to-weight ratio. You can build really lightweight things with it. Great for aerospace and for sports. And it's also got the interesting property that the body will resorb it over time, making it a potentially useful material for bone implants.
But if you make a keyboard out of it, it will flex a lot. What's more, it's not springy like steel or titanium can be; you can permanently deform or even crack it if you're not careful. Think of aluminum's worst attributes, and magnesium has all of them except worse.
It's spooky-lightweight though, so that's why you'd make use of it.
I got this on kickstarter for 129.00 on the 24 hour launch. After trying it its not worth it really unless you really need something thin and light I wasnt really impressed with it against even boards like rainy 75 its not that good! it feels cheap.
No RGB😢
looks like a prototype
I don't get this keyboard value. If you need to travel, then your laptop has a keyboard with a similar layout. If people need a keyboard for stationary use, that's why we make the keyboards with fine CNC metals, regardless with the weight, the thickness gives better typing sound and feeling, and much more accessories for the builds. There are only few things can be made by CNC metals, the keyboard, the monitor backplate, and the computer case, generally the monitor backplate and the computer case have pricy cost for the most people, but CNC keyboard is more affordable. Carbon fiber material is better to be used for the mouse and headphone.
The Lofree Flow is better in my opinion
오호..
I must be the only one who do not like how carbon fiber looks
The Spacebar sounds Terrible.. ouch
why are people in love with throwing money at Keyboards ? are they really that life changing?
bro why did they use this dirty ass font
I’d buy it if it was a 100%
Lofree's aftersales service is terrible. Releasing a product with beta firmware is somewhat acceptable, but not providing any firmware updates is completely unacceptable! My Flow keyboard looks great, but the firmware is very unreliable.
No Hall effect = no buy
That font looks like a Walmart "gamer" keyboard from a decade ago. Why do companies keep using it? NOBODY wants that font.
Gaming peripheral designers:
-Give it fonts that the year 2000 thought would look futuristic and edgy.
-Make it look like a Decepticon.
-Give it RGB and make it go through the entire rainbow to look like a neon lit Cyberpunk district.
wow nice keyboard, I have 25$ can I buy this?
It’s $200
Is it just me or does the space bar sound really bad?
It's you! 😄 Yeah, spacebar doesn't sound great, but not terrible.
The edgy font is just too much 😂
Meh. Just sell me the switches!
Sounds good, but also so wrong: mainly horrible fonts, and the out-of-style carbon fiber that remind me of cheap fake carbon fiber sticker that plastered on everything imaginable trend a few years ago. And the price...
Brands haven't bothered with low profile because Logitech released the G915 Lightspeed ages ago and it's perfect already
L take
The G915 is far from perfect. I owned the tkl version and the keycaps are thin and abs so they get greasy overtime. The sound isn't great and the stabilisers aren't good.
That font tho... eww....
That is clack you clickbaiter.
I hate thin slim minimalist anthing bs marketing
The legends look terrible.
That font, gross.
bro makes the same generic reviews for every keyboard all his videos sound exactly the same keyboard
Terrible design... cannot see the lettering on the keys in dim light
Do not buy this keyboard. bad font, unusable in low light due to bad rgb, unmodifiable beyond keycap swap I guess. covers part of the trackpad, 1u right ctrl fn alt(would it kill them to make the spacebar 0.5u shorter?). Insert key because who knows why.
While bad font is true (though subjective)...
1. Not a lot of people rely on the back-lit labels on keyboards; there isn't any lighting on most custom boards
2. I don't see the need for mods on this production pre-built
3. 1u control keys are standard on this layout
4.dont put it on ur computer then, plus covering ur track pad would not affect the function of the track pad.
Overall, your complaints represent probably a slim demographic of its potential buyers in my opinion; it seems to me not a lot of people would find these complaints as problems.
@@Bwucey 1. Less than 20% of people can touchtype properly.
2. what if people just want to mod? you'd be complaining if the switches were soldered.
3. Standard doesn't mean good. Rubber dome keyboards were the standard once.
4. if it covers part of the trackpad then it affects its functionality and means it's not made with that in mind, or they don't care enough. or they give that 'palm rest' feature more priority.
Overall this keyboard is made for people that want slim stuff because of aesthetics. it offers 0 functional improvement.
Which of my complains would be considered a problem?
And they don't have other localisations. I need a german layout, but they only have US boards. I saw this video in my recommendations and it's frustrating to see all these localised products, which i have no use for.
exposed screws and no function row or cursor block for over $200? you've got to be fucking kidding me.
HAIIIIIIIIIII FIRSTTT
apple keyboard is much thinner than yours and it fully bluetooth wireless and also it has charge port for that too so Apple Store do sell those at good price for it and also it pretty light weight too and the keys are much thinner than yours is big and thick keys so I like mine is the best and all so thin and light got that and go there and se for yourself then
Haha ipad keyboard is the thinnest of them all
0:48 what is that keyboard??
I hate thin slim minimalist anthing bs marketing