Well, Orson was pretty thick/fat at the end, admittedly... Sooooo... Subtle, it was not... I mean, he´s a star, he´s as thick as a star, so, let him do the voicing of a star-devouring planet-robot...
The Reason why the Matrix of Leadership destroys Unicron, is because the Matrix is a part of the Transformers' God, "Primus, Lord of Light" . and Unicron is essentially their Satan analogue. (and Primus' twin from the dawn of time). Opening the Matrix is basically like setting off the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch INSIDE the Killer Rabbit with big pointy teeth.
@@heartbust4624 Pretty much, every leader of the Autobots get Prime tacked onto their name if they manage to get the Matrix of Leadership. And in addition to wrecking Unicron's face it also has various extra effects such as being able to bring life to new robots and conferring supernatural abilities on lifeforms of all kinds. Well, technically that's just the energy it gives off. But yeah, he's totally a paladin.
Well, sometimes Optimus is closer to a robot Jesus, in some timelines he's one of the original 13 primes built by Primus himself,and he intentionally causes himself to be reborn amongst the lesser robots
Here's a interesting fact: Orson Welles doesn't even remember the character he play as and he described his role as "a big toy who attacks a bunch of smaller toys".
@@simonball9615 From the interviews with the director Nelson Shin, it seems Welles died shortly after recording his lines too. IMO Unicron had some of the best dialogue, using language which was way more figurative than the average kid was use to.
They just had a one-night theatrical release of this on Thursday; I took my daughter. She cried when Optimus died, just like her daddy 32 years ago. Love your reviews, keep it up!
Transformers ended for me the day Prime was killed on a movie screen. Even though I know the animated series went on for a number of more seasons afterward, and there are so many different series of Transformers after that, I refuse to watch them. Because the Transformers that I loved all died in that epic movie. Including Prime...
@@chrissparks7439 I know that. And it's insulting that even happened, because if you're going to undo a favorite character's death, then you shouldn't have killed him in the first place, and you literally were only doing it for more eyeballs and money. I refuse to gratify that kind of greedy storytelling.
Talking shit about this soundtrack is almost the equivalent of someone reviewing Guardians of the Galaxy 30yrs from now and talking shit about that soundtrack.
I agree. The animation still looks fantastic to this day. And that's not all that holds up about it. The storyline is well thought out and put together. Granted, it does have some plotholes. But its better than anything Bay ever did. At least Unicron is a legitimate threat. And while some people say that the music is cheesy, I think its a breath of fresh air from the typical orchestra music we hear nowadays.
Great animation, a lot of great voice actors, some people may say the soundtrack sounds too 80's, but come on listen to the soundtrack and tell me that it doesn't fill you with the tiniest bit of energy. Besides, I feel this kind of soundtrack honestly perfectly compliments a movie with so much action in it. I also like that this movie felt like an epic that it needed to be in theaters. I notice a lot of tv spinoff movies make small plots that honestly don't feel like there needs to be a movie made about it. Transformer the Movie on the other hands makes it so that it almost feel like this story absolutely had to be a movie.
An interesting fact here is that when Hasbro saw the backlash towards their character slaughter, they made last minute changes to the G.I.Joe movie since initially had its own character deaths. (Also, the reason Ultra Magnus was so easily repaired is because the original storyboard saw him being physically torn apart rather than blown up.)
@@nicholassmith7984 I mean, you're not wrong. Also, iirc, it was later revealed/stated(?) in the following 3rd season of the show that the planet of junk had some sort of unusual property that allowed any "dead" robot to be brought back to life when repaired, regardless of how severe the damage was.
I had that "HOLYYY SHIIIT” lol on my face to when the first Autobot was killed, even worse was when Prime died, I mean me and every other kid was crying yelling and just plain heart broken.# Good Times in the 80's👍
StrayPanther79 was I the only kid screaming my head when prime showed up with the Dinobots and started wrecking? Man this review makes want to watch it again.
StrayPanther79 I was more upset at starscreams death as a kid since I preferred the Decepticons seeing as how many times they failed they keep trying it inspired me as a kid but at best in intelligence I was about on Skywarps level
@@delete---7593 Basically Hasbro had a list of toys not being sold in 1986, and it makes no sense to advertise toys you aren't selling, so all those characters went to the chopping block. Ironically, Starscream WAS being sold in 1986 still but was killed anyways; probably why he has the 2nd best death scene behind Optimus.
Fun fact, that scene with Kup re-directing Blitzwing's tank canon to shoot down Shrapnel, inspired that scene from the 2007 movie where Jazz did the same thing to Brawl.
Do you like it in a female voice? i messed with the pitch so it sounded like a woman sang it. hahahahaha on my channel somewhere lol Edit my channel is messy so if you want to find it search - Primitive background music removal on TF:TM
I swear to God, seeing the Autobots GET WRECKED as a kid SCARRED me. But Optimus Prime dying is still embedded in my head as an adult. Nonetheless, THIS is the only Transformers film I acknowledge. BTW, I caught that Dragon Sound reference 🤣
I have the 20th anniversary edition of this movie. It came out I think when I was 10 years old when I first watched it I got to admit I cried it still bothers me when I watch it and see Optimus prime die and I'm 44 years old. I still have every transformer ever made before 1995 in mint condition. I hope to give them to my son if I ever had one but unfortunately that's not the case. Nice to know I'm not the only one that Optimus prime affected
it kinda reminds me of Titan .A.E. and just for the sake of comparison, I think that Stith (the kangaroo thing) reminds me of Arcee (TFP version) for some reason.
In the movies defence, Galvatron was not choking Hot Rod, he was crushing his neck to rip off his head, something he kinda said before he actually tried to do it.
I would argue more so that that’s Hot Rod struggling to loosen Galvatron’s grip before he completely breaks his neck and tears his head off in the process.
They killed OPTIMUS PRIME and replaced him with a pimped out R.V., should've called him "Winnebagus Prime", any one have the rare varient that came with 3 smaller robots that turned into a retiree couple and a chiuaua?
Common misconception. Rodimus Prime is described as a "Futuristic Truck" and not an RV. That section above the Cab that looks like a sleeping area is actually a spoiler/wind break. The back end is universally described as a "trailer" by the toy guides and it also turns into a battle station like Optimus' trailer does, complete with large gun platform. It does look like a RV though.
No wonder Generation X is called the most cynical generation of all time...... They had like 5 versions of Bambi's mom dying in 1 movie and it was based on their favorite toyline.
cynical and thick-skinned, the Challenger blew up and the schools just said, "but now lets get back to math so we dont make that mistake again" lol too soon?
Lol at the disrespect for computers, robots and AI programming back then. Now people shit their pants over the distant future shadow of a possible Skynet.
I heard another reason they killed off a lot of the Autobot characters was because Hasbro didn't want to keep paying licensing fees to the companies that made the cars the toy's vehicle modes were based on. This is why these new characters have futuristic vehicle modes.
This makes a lot of sense. I can imagine at the start Takara didn't have to worry about licensing fees to car makers because they were just some obscure Japanese toy maker that was virtually unknown in America and Europe. But once Hasbro stepped in and made diaclones into transformers which became a worldwide smash hit auto makers would have been on the phone with their legal advisors to find out if they could get a piece of that action
Actually, this seems feesible to me. I always noticed something similar in the first series of toys. All of the Autobots were name brand vehicles. A *Volkswagon* Beetle, A *Freightliner* semi truck, a *Porsche* 935, you get the idea. Meanwhile, the Decepticons were a camera, a generic boombox, and a bunch of tapes. Even the things that could be identified, such as a batallion of F-15 eagles or a Walther p-38 hand gun, it was still something that wasn't likely to be used directly or indirectly by a child. After all, most companies wouldn't want kids thinking their parents' car was going to murder them because it was a Decepticon.
Interesting to note, Frank Welker (Megatron) also voiced Wheely (That little annoying rhyming robot) That's how great he is at voice acting. They do't call him the 'voice god' for nothing.
This movie is my counter to anyone who says the red wedding was unprecedented. They made us watch our favourite characters get gunned down and beaten to death.
Having the death of Optimus Prime lead to a lot of shows not kill any main character for years.... The backlash was so bad thats why they brought him back.... I mean lets not for get the backlash caused them to throw in the line "hes in a coma" into the gi joe movie
not only did they bring him back BUT outside the US they added on some narration STATING he would be back in the very next season to avoid the backlash.
The first time I think the writers were trying to do a proper torch-passing to Rodimus. It didn't work, so they just brought him back for good. Then Japan killed him off because Japan has a habit of killing heroes in their shows. (See Roy in Macross/Robotech and Gurren Lagan spoiler for examples.)
thancrus I went the movies to see and me and my brother went bat shit crazy when Optimus died. Are perants had to take us home. Alot of kids left the movie house crying.
Probably got shot in the cosmitron again. And since Wheeljack's dead, too, and Cybertron's fully owned by the Decepticons, good luck finding another spare in Wheeljack's workshop.
"for the 80s" there's plenty of amazing 80s animated features, sure the TV animation budgets were often low but in movies the animation is usually always great.
at least someone agrees with me still my favorite of the transformers movies I don't think the live action ones will hold up very good 20 years from now either .
I wasn't born until the 90s and didn't see anything from G1 until after the second Bay movie came out. So, I'm able to say this without any nostalgia goggles: This movie's soundtrack is awesome!
the two Stan Bush songs: The Touch and Dare are the only real great songs in it! The others were just dumb or weird. Who else would sing them? Bruce Springsteen or Queen maybe?
I saw this movie when I was six. My cousin was really into transformers and had a DVD copy of it. I to this day have yet to feel more shocked, and full of suspense from a movie and Unicron's voice is still etched into my mind
Fun Fact: they had to run Orson's voice through several filters and turn up the volume just to get it loud enough to understand. He practically mumbled his way through his lines.
@@Brastius Well dude, that's 'cause Orson Wells was literally dying the whole time the move was made. Which is why it's the last "movie role" he ever took in his life because he died not long after the movie was made.
@@RppRussell Orson Welles didn't even care about the role. He just took it and later said I was the voice of some planet robot that does nothing then gets killed.
Not me. I know that may sound pretty harsh coming from a long-time Transformers fan, but hear me out. The thing is, Beast Wars was my gateway Transformers series. And when Optimus Primal died at the beginning of season 2, later on he came back to life. Which also happened in Armada, and Energon. So Optimus Prime dying became kind of a trope for me. Since I knew he would most likely come back to life later on.(unfortunately, the G1 Movie didn't do that)
“Hey kids remember all those characters from the show you’ve always wanted to see on the big screen, well fuck you their dead now” is my hands down favorite thing this man has said
And this movie not only immortalized perhaps the most unintentionally brilliant music choices of the era but also made sure that Optimus Prime now had to die at least once in EVERY damn iteration of the show, and the comics. XD
Also, Stan Bush's music was easily the best thing in this movie outside the pretty great animation. (I know it's a joke but Stan Bush is the fuckin' man 😂)
Jim Jim Excuse me, Hunger? Nothing's gonna stand in our way? Even the redone Transformers theme is amazing. I hate Dare to be stupid though (sorry Weird Al, love your other stuff though)
First one was alright, but they just went downhill afterwards. Not only that, but it seemed like the first three movies had to focus on Shia "the spaz" LeBouf. It's Transformers! We should be focusing on them. I don't give a shit what Shia's character is doing, I came to see giant alien robots!
To be fair, with the exception of Prime and the jets, the ones they killed off had shitty toy designs. Even Megatron’s was lame with that stumpy torso.
I can't remember where I read it, but a theory suggests that Unicron was not able to transform into a robot initially. It was something that he learnt how to accomplish due to having contact with Megatron and copying his body schematics and re-configuring himself to do it. Bottom line, Unicron was not a Transformer until he met one and stole their unique ability.
In the comic continuity Primus actually stole the idea from him, and gave it to his children who were created for the sole purpose of fighting Unicron. Buut then Primus took a nap, he was nearly forgotten by his creations and the whole cybertronian civil war happened. (On the whole that was a good thing because the peaceful and prosperous society built in his absence could have never stood up to Unicron.)
Unicron was a planet eating planet, but primacron(look it up) somehow turned him into a million foot tall robot. But primacron's pet thing died when the lab blew up and the pet was like primus, it had the matrix inside of it.
The theme song is what badassery is made of. I play it sometimes when I'm a bit behind on leaving for work, and let me tell you; there is nothing like doing 85mph weaving in and out of traffic to TRANSFORMEEEEEEERRRS!ROBOTS IN DISGUISE!
@@JCBro-yg8vd Yeah, but instead of doing Galvatron's voice like Leonard Nimoy's or do it like how he always does with Megatron, he does it completely shrill and high pitched. I always hated it when I started watching the original series.
Brandon tenold: can you imagine someone killing the original characters to make room for the new characters. Me: Disney with the original characters from star wars in the sequel trilogy.
I saw this movie in the cinema when I was 8 years old and that scene where Prowls eyes light up then smoke comes out of his mouth gave me nightmares. Childhood trauma confirmed.
I think these robots have genders because the aliens who built them had no gender but wanted to sell them to races that did to appeal. so if you think about it, Arcee is an alien sex toy.
6:50 - At least I can tell the robots from one another - This is a great point! I could never get into the Michael Bay movies because I couldn't follow who was who or what they were doing.
Yeah. And I never liked how they kept introducing characters only to kill them off either in the same movie or early in the next one. It became so annoying.
@@truefanforum3273 I was lukewarm on the scene where our hero and moral leader Optimus cold-bloodedly executes a defeated Megatron as he pleads for his life.
The soundtrack is so metal a leather vest and combat boots appeared in my closet the day after I listened to it. Unicron will be distracted by boobs and killed by whatever dues ex machina Bay includes about five minutes before it's needed.
@@ExodiaTheD1HATER I'm late but well.... that's from an anime called "Panty and Stocking with Garterbelt", don't remember from which episode, but that series is wild.
why the fuck does that even exist it's from japan so what do you expect but that seems really fucked up this was a kids show and japan has to show robots fucking like what the hell
One of the interesting things about the movie is how it basically ties into the show and continues the story in later episodes/seasons. You don't see that kind of media connection nowadays.
I remember when this came out, the older toys (Megatron, etc) were the ones kids in my town wanted, because they were pretty rare and hard to get. The kid who had the Soundwave that could play real tapes was treated like a rock star.
@@zacharyjochumsen9677 I had a bunch of the early toys, yeah. They're all in a box in the basement atm. Busted as all hell....I played with them, I didn't keep them mint.
Ah, shut up. You don’t even know how to fucking spell “masterpiece.” This movie, much like the show, is a giant toy commercial. If it weren’t, the characters with discontinued toys wouldn’t have been brutally slaughtered in the first 30 minutes. The tone is all over the place, whiplashing back and forth between grim and serious and lighthearted, and the plot is resolved with a stupid deus ex machina macguffin that shows up out of nowhere. None of that should stop you from enjoying the movie, but a masterpiece it fucking isn’t, and that’s from someone who loves this movie and begged my mom to take me to the theater to see it when I was a kid.
I was 6 when this came out and it blew my mind! I'm 40 now and i realize the huge amount of violence for the first 20 minutes is crazy thinking about it now but for an 80's kids movie it was normal i guess
Man that Ironhide death scene, made be feel weird the first time I watched it. The music with the visuals was just pitch and tone perfect to create something disturbing. I'm like that was new, but I was still drawn in like moths to a flame. It's amazing even how at a young age you can assert blame. As a child I never forgave hot rod. Lol. I liked how the 80s risked more with kids media, we had no trigger warnings we just had to deal with life. And they conveyed life in certain media (ahem - watership down) 😅
I was 12 years old when I saw this movie in the theatre with my friends and my 5 year old brother. Kids were crying when the Autobots died and bawling when Opitmus died.
which was why they changed the scene in GI Joe where Duke takes the snake to the chest from Serpentor to being in a coma (Duke was actually supposed to be dead...which gives Falcon's story arc more redemption) but the kids crying over Optimus caused the GI Joe Movie to change it because they didn't want to break kids like that again
No, the scene existed. You can actually still see the sweeps fire their "laser ropes" in the movie before Ultra Magnus is blown apart. Just check the Teletran Wiki.
ZoidFile It was story boarded, but the scene was never animated, there's a RUclips video around showing all the extra story boarded deaths that weren't made.
It was story boarded and animated, however the animation was altered from a draw&quarter death to a simple explosion. The altered animation is even easy to notice with the awkward way Ultra Magnus is shot, stumbles, falls, THEN explodes. It's not just awkward, it's inconsistent with every other blast death in the movie. The Draw&Quarter intention of the death IS important to note though. As it makes Ultra Magnus' "resurrection' actually a simple repair job of putting the parts back in place. I'm sure an autobot would have no trouble surviving their arms/legs ripped off. Even removing his head might not be fatal, if he hadn't taken significant damage beforehand. The point with Prime is that he shot [completely through] his torso(as the animation shows). He essentially "bled out", which also props up his death scene as being understandable that he lasted that long. In Ultra Magnus' case though, no critical systems were damaged.
You know, I'd like to see another popular TV show get the movie treatment and kill off the main cast within the first 30 minutes, just to see how fans would react.
My Little Pony: The Next Generation. Invaders enter Canterlot and none of the Mane cast can stop them. Now it is up to the Cutie Mark Crusaders and their new friends to find the magic that is friendship and save their homes.
I second the walking dead, plus game of thrones, sons of anarchy,and breaking bad..... All the shows coworkers who barely know anything about me beyond my name insist "Oh you'd LOVE it !". Slaughter em all
I was thinking what if the GIJoe movie had been the same as this, I know that one guy went "into a coma" but what if they had an early scene where four main characters get shot dead by cobra troopers.
Well, the video image certainly sums up most kids who saw this back in the day, myself included. Think the ending of Passion of The Christ, but it's little kids crying instead of adults. And Brandon, to your point around 5:15-uh, no, there were some upset/crying kids. TRUST ME.
The funny thing was they actually had to tack on the annoucement that Optimus Prime would return in the next season of Transformers to the end of the film outside of America (at least I remember having it here in the UK) to stop kids being really bummed out by it. And yeah, Considering Prowl was my favorite character and he just gets gunned down, I was bawling my eyes out when it happened.
I didn't get to see TF The Movie during the theatrical run and had to wait for its initial release on home video to see it. But it still upset me as a kid to see so many old guard Autobots, as I liked to think of them, die or already laying dead in the movie. When I saw Optimus Prime die because Hot Rod rushed in trying to be a hero during Prime's last fight with Megatron in Megatron's original form, that just turned my world upside down. I actually spent the rest of my childhood refusing to think of G1's third season as being part of the same universe as the first two. I looked at that whole season as some Transformers alternate universe because to me, Transformers just didn't seem right without the battle of wits and strength between Optimus and Megatron. Plus I remembered Starscream's line from Search for Alpha Trion about Optimus Prime's death being a long sought victory for Decepticons, and it just didn't seem right to give Starscream that satisfaction in his move to the afterlife. Maybe if writers then didn't overdo it falling too much on story lines about Rodimus Prime's doubts about filling Optimus's shoes in being a good leader to the Autobots, I would have warmed up to the season sooner. It wasn't until after runs of the Beast Wars, Beast Machines, and the 2000 to 2001 Robots in Disguise series that I completely warmed up to G1 season 3's place in the G1 continuity.
I don't even watch transformers and never have and god damn it's so insane. Like did Hasbro know what they were doing? That must have been fucking brutal to any kid that saw this. I mean fuck imagine if, I don't know, Tin Tin or something tried to pull this.
I think you were only joking about it and all ready know, but the older characters weren't killed off because of their own toys being sold poorly, far from it. Hasbro just wanted more of a focus be put onto the new 1986 toys at the time. Ironically enough two characters Jazz and Cliffjumper (both from 84) survived, but were silently removed since actors Scatman Crothers (Jazz) died from lung cancer months after the film was released and Casey Kasem (Cliffjumper) left the show at the start of the third season out of protest for he didn't like the portrayal of Islamic characters in the show. Oh and of curse you didn't mention the biggest elephant in the room where Optimus Prime comes back to life, but there you go.
An interesting piece of trivia: because of the reaction to the death of Optimus Prime, the fate of the character Duke in "GI JOE The Movie" was changed. Originally, he was also supposed to be killed, but this was rewritten to have him end up in a coma and surviving.
I saw this movie in the theater w/my brother & mother. My brother & I were freaking TRAUMATIZED! My mom was so confused bc she never looked at the show and was shocked at how dark ish was. AND THE SOUNDTRACK WAS FREAKING MAJESTIC! I still listen to it to this day!
There's a review of this film from 1986 complaining about the loud noises and action that only kids will find interesting. It's amazing because it could be copy and pasted as a review for the Bay films. "Despite these improvements, though, the movie is not for anyone too grown-up. "While all this action may captivate young children, the animation is not spectacular enough to dazzle adults, and the Transformers have few truly human elements to lure parents along, even when their voices are supplied by well-known actors. "Children have an advantage here, for they can project their playtime scenarios on the old friends and heroes in action on the screen, while parents may just wonder what the fuss is about." - LOL
Frank Welker is also the roars and growls of a shitload of monsters and creatures, including Sharptooh in the first Land Before Time movie and the dragon in The Pagemaster.
19:26 "Congratulations fellas, your toys sold well enough for you to live." So there's a Spike Witwicky toy? Not that I would care to own it... unless it was an Autobot Spike toy.
Little bit of trivia. Dare To Be Stupid was written and performed by Weird Al Yankovic, he also voiced one of the characters. Al originally wanted to do a parody to DEVo's Whip it, when he could not get permission to do so, he came up with his own synth line and song. Dare To Be Stupid is actually pretty amazing, so much so that the guys from DEVO have come out and said they should have let him use Whip It.
The 1986 Transformers movie is superior to all Bayformers movies combined for two big reasons: 1) 99% of it's runtime is focused on, filled with and entirely about the Transformers. 2) Superior soundtrack.
But it's still a shameless toy commerical Unlike Transformers Transwarped which told us an amazing story full of great character moments, fight scenes, awesome callbacks, and was an amazing opening to season three of TFA!
At 0:08 Brandon handily sums up basically every problem with the whole entertainment industry. Well done. Edit: Where'd you get that old revolver? I was expecting you to use some cheap toy glock or something and then you bust out that classy piece of work.
@@zacglover3345 I'm talking G1 timeline (And more specifically the Marvel timeline, but it's also canon to the G1 cartoon timeline due to Beast Wars).
Embarrassing? Orson Wells's final role was voicing a giant, evil planet-devouring robot. That's a pretty awesome way to finish a career.
You know, I couldn't help but think the same.
I think that's pretty badass.
Well, Orson was pretty thick/fat at the end, admittedly... Sooooo... Subtle, it was not... I mean, he´s a star, he´s as thick as a star, so, let him do the voicing of a star-devouring planet-robot...
For Orson Welles, a man with a great body of filmed works (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orson_Welles_filmography ) this *_was_* a comedown.
Yup and if not it's better then Denise Hopper final role in Alpha and Omega
The Reason why the Matrix of Leadership destroys Unicron, is because the Matrix is a part of the Transformers' God, "Primus, Lord of Light" . and Unicron is essentially their Satan analogue. (and Primus' twin from the dawn of time). Opening the Matrix is basically like setting off the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch INSIDE the Killer Rabbit with big pointy teeth.
Walter Lopez
And only the head of the Rabbit survives, floating around the kingdom like a strange moon.
@@optimistprime3192 no unicron was completly dead but starscream reactivatet him in season 3
So is that why Optimus Prime has well Prime in his name? From Primus? Is he like a paladin?
@@heartbust4624 Pretty much, every leader of the Autobots get Prime tacked onto their name if they manage to get the Matrix of Leadership. And in addition to wrecking Unicron's face it also has various extra effects such as being able to bring life to new robots and conferring supernatural abilities on lifeforms of all kinds. Well, technically that's just the energy it gives off.
But yeah, he's totally a paladin.
Well, sometimes Optimus is closer to a robot Jesus, in some timelines he's one of the original 13 primes built by Primus himself,and he intentionally causes himself to be reborn amongst the lesser robots
Here's a interesting fact: Orson Welles doesn't even remember the character he play as and he described his role as "a big toy who attacks a bunch of smaller toys".
He must have had his daily dose of Paul Mason wine. 🍷
Actually, that's 100% accurate.
Orson died in 1985, months before the movie was actually released. I believe his quote was to people asking him what he was working on at the time.
@@simonball9615 From the interviews with the director Nelson Shin, it seems Welles died shortly after recording his lines too. IMO Unicron had some of the best dialogue, using language which was way more figurative than the average kid was use to.
@@dariusq8894 He didn’t finish all of his lines. Leonard Nimoy had to finish up using a voice changer.
The soundtrack is amazing. I find your lack of faith....disturbing.
LOL 😂
Yep
Yeah I kept saying 'stop shitting on a fantastic soundtrack ya tosser'
NRG was a really bad Hair Band Megadeth.
@@iamalpharius9483 Maybe so, but it was the first time a children's cartoon movie used metal music.
They just had a one-night theatrical release of this on Thursday; I took my daughter. She cried when Optimus died, just like her daddy 32 years ago.
Love your reviews, keep it up!
Transformers ended for me the day Prime was killed on a movie screen. Even though I know the animated series went on for a number of more seasons afterward, and there are so many different series of Transformers after that, I refuse to watch them. Because the Transformers that I loved all died in that epic movie. Including Prime...
@@shindari Optimus came back to life a season later
@@chrissparks7439 I know that. And it's insulting that even happened, because if you're going to undo a favorite character's death, then you shouldn't have killed him in the first place, and you literally were only doing it for more eyeballs and money. I refuse to gratify that kind of greedy storytelling.
@@shindari they did it because the fans complained that op died
@@leonmarshall8727 Making it a bad decision in the first place. Still... stick to your guns, if you're gonna shoot them...
Talking shit about this soundtrack is almost the equivalent of someone reviewing Guardians of the Galaxy 30yrs from now and talking shit about that soundtrack.
i love it when he goes on about 80s music...its an 80s production...wat sort of music were u expecting lol
What?! The soundtrack is like the best part of the whole movie, especially the touch.
nickzilla20 you need to checkout The Cybertronic Spree.
Dare. Dare to believe you can survive
Agreed, even Lion's cover of what is essentially a jingle from a kids commercial turns into mighty metal majesty~
I liked every song except the ones with lyrics
Hunger, and instruments of destruction are my favorites
The animation still holds up on this even after all these years
Yes, but that is all
+Chad Castagana Soundtrack, script?
I agree. The animation still looks fantastic to this day. And that's not all that holds up about it. The storyline is well thought out and put together. Granted, it does have some plotholes. But its better than anything Bay ever did. At least Unicron is a legitimate threat. And while some people say that the music is cheesy, I think its a breath of fresh air from the typical orchestra music we hear nowadays.
Great animation, a lot of great voice actors, some people may say the soundtrack sounds too 80's, but come on listen to the soundtrack and tell me that it doesn't fill you with the tiniest bit of energy. Besides, I feel this kind of soundtrack honestly perfectly compliments a movie with so much action in it. I also like that this movie felt like an epic that it needed to be in theaters. I notice a lot of tv spinoff movies make small plots that honestly don't feel like there needs to be a movie made about it. Transformer the Movie on the other hands makes it so that it almost feel like this story absolutely had to be a movie.
I agree it has its flaws (as Brandon points out), but I still enjoy it after all thee years.
An interesting fact here is that when Hasbro saw the backlash towards their character slaughter, they made last minute changes to the G.I.Joe movie since initially had its own character deaths.
(Also, the reason Ultra Magnus was so easily repaired is because the original storyboard saw him being physically torn apart rather than blown up.)
I also just presumed the Junktabots knew how to repair broken Transformers. You see one repairing itself mid-battle.
@@nicholassmith7984 I mean, you're not wrong. Also, iirc, it was later revealed/stated(?) in the following 3rd season of the show that the planet of junk had some sort of unusual property that allowed any "dead" robot to be brought back to life when repaired, regardless of how severe the damage was.
The dance scene music was courtesy of none other than “Weird Al” Yankovich performing one of his rare original tunes.
Was I the only one who heard them say “Terribly stupid” while they were singing?
that makes too much sense
@No Pats JIM I was referring to the Junkions’ theme “Dare To Be Stupid” by Weird Al.
Meant to *sound* like Devo, tho
thank Devo for that! 😁
I had that "HOLYYY SHIIIT” lol on my face to when the first Autobot was killed, even worse was when Prime died, I mean me and every other kid was crying yelling and just plain heart broken.# Good Times in the 80's👍
StrayPanther79 was I the only kid screaming my head when prime showed up with the Dinobots and started wrecking? Man this review makes want to watch it again.
StrayPanther79 I was more upset at starscreams death as a kid since I preferred the Decepticons seeing as how many times they failed they keep trying it inspired me as a kid but at best in intelligence I was about on Skywarps level
Prowl's death haunts me more than even Optimus's. The smoke from his face and his eyes going out.
The bts motivations make it all the more hollow.
Same here.
What????????????.
@@delete---7593 Basically Hasbro had a list of toys not being sold in 1986, and it makes no sense to advertise toys you aren't selling, so all those characters went to the chopping block. Ironically, Starscream WAS being sold in 1986 still but was killed anyways; probably why he has the 2nd best death scene behind Optimus.
Fun fact, that scene with Kup re-directing Blitzwing's tank canon to shoot down Shrapnel, inspired that scene from the 2007 movie where Jazz did the same thing to Brawl.
It's also the only scene in the entire movie that uses the surround speakers.
Rest in peace, skrapenel
I still prefer Kup doing that. That's the kind of badassery I suspect got him that "Sargent" ranking.
If by "inspired" you mean "allowed Michael Bay to blatantly and lazily copy", yes.
You don't like "The Touch?!" Shame on *you,* Brandon!
This guy's review just goes to show you, there's no helping shit taste.
Stan bush is great
Transformers leader died Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Do you like it in a female voice? i messed with the pitch so it sounded like a woman sang it. hahahahaha on my channel somewhere lol
Edit my channel is messy so if you want to find it search - Primitive background music removal on TF:TM
Dirk Diggler has the best version: ruclips.net/video/UtOviHnmAlE/видео.html
I swear to God, seeing the Autobots GET WRECKED as a kid SCARRED me. But Optimus Prime dying is still embedded in my head as an adult.
Nonetheless, THIS is the only Transformers film I acknowledge.
BTW, I caught that Dragon Sound reference 🤣
Hey c'mon, bumblebee was a solid A- for me. It's definitely better than the Bay films.
Uh oh some random tool on the internet does not acknowledge some movies. I bet you got Hollywood shaking in their boots, lol.
I have the 20th anniversary edition of this movie. It came out I think when I was 10 years old when I first watched it I got to admit I cried it still bothers me when I watch it and see Optimus prime die and I'm 44 years old. I still have every transformer ever made before 1995 in mint condition. I hope to give them to my son if I ever had one but unfortunately that's not the case. Nice to know I'm not the only one that Optimus prime affected
@@BJETNT is that the one that has the hologram box art that cheges the old guard to the new guard by moving the box?
@@JohnDoe-vn1we Uh oh, some random tool on the internet is offended by someone's opinion.
As campy as the 1986 movie is, its still WAY BETTER then the crap that Michael Bay gave us.
it kinda reminds me of Titan .A.E. and just for the sake of comparison, I think that Stith (the kangaroo thing) reminds me of Arcee (TFP version) for some reason.
But not as good as Transformers Transwarped. (Three part Season Three premiere of TFA)
But the fight senes were epic and brutile
If we're also accounting for Bumblebee, which he produced, then there's at least SOME debate
Im not a fan of his but those movies were fairly entertaining if you shut your brain down and pretended he wasnt a sexual predator
In the movies defence, Galvatron was not choking Hot Rod, he was crushing his neck to rip off his head, something he kinda said before he actually tried to do it.
gutz1981
But you can cleary hearing me gasping for air.
Rodimus you really gasp?
I would argue more so that that’s Hot Rod struggling to loosen Galvatron’s grip before he completely breaks his neck and tears his head off in the process.
They killed OPTIMUS PRIME and replaced him with a pimped out R.V., should've called him "Winnebagus Prime", any one have the rare varient that came with 3 smaller robots that turned into a retiree couple and a chiuaua?
Common misconception. Rodimus Prime is described as a "Futuristic Truck" and not an RV. That section above the Cab that looks like a sleeping area is actually a spoiler/wind break. The back end is universally described as a "trailer" by the toy guides and it also turns into a battle station like Optimus' trailer does, complete with large gun platform.
It does look like a RV though.
No wonder Generation X is called the most cynical generation of all time...... They had like 5 versions of Bambi's mom dying in 1 movie and it was based on their favorite toyline.
Yeah big oof.
We got to watch Duke die in the GI Joe movie too.
@@rosshixon4222 Ah ah ah, *coma.*
cynical and thick-skinned, the Challenger blew up and the schools just said, "but now lets get back to math so we dont make that mistake again" lol too soon?
Oh my god! 😂
I like how Orson Welles described his role in this movie: "I play a big toy that destroys smaller toys", lol! =P
But then he never got to see the movie as he died I think a week after recording the lines.
@@trailersic I'm pretty sure he wouldn't have cared if he saw it or not, he pretty much did it for the money anyway.
This should be the slogan for the upcoming Haslab's biggest Unicron action figure.
Lol at the disrespect for computers, robots and AI programming back then. Now people shit their pants over the distant future shadow of a possible Skynet.
That’s pretty much what it is
I heard another reason they killed off a lot of the Autobot characters was because Hasbro didn't want to keep paying licensing fees to the companies that made the cars the toy's vehicle modes were based on. This is why these new characters have futuristic vehicle modes.
Diaclone?
This makes a lot of sense. I can imagine at the start Takara didn't have to worry about licensing fees to car makers because they were just some obscure Japanese toy maker that was virtually unknown in America and Europe. But once Hasbro stepped in and made diaclones into transformers which became a worldwide smash hit auto makers would have been on the phone with their legal advisors to find out if they could get a piece of that action
Actually, this seems feesible to me. I always noticed something similar in the first series of toys. All of the Autobots were name brand vehicles. A *Volkswagon* Beetle, A *Freightliner* semi truck, a *Porsche* 935, you get the idea. Meanwhile, the Decepticons were a camera, a generic boombox, and a bunch of tapes. Even the things that could be identified, such as a batallion of F-15 eagles or a Walther p-38 hand gun, it was still something that wasn't likely to be used directly or indirectly by a child. After all, most companies wouldn't want kids thinking their parents' car was going to murder them because it was a Decepticon.
Nah, it was entirely to push the new toys while discontinuing the older toys whose sales had slowed.
@@GoGojiraGo You... realize it could easily be both things, right?
Hotrod got Optimus Prime killed?
that explains why he's rather...hated in the community
if you watch the movie, Prime hesitated and got his own ass killed. Hot Rod catches shit for something that wasn't his fault.
@@KardboardKenny Hotrod is a bitch.
DozenthTurmoil
I love her but I had to make this one joke because I saw this here:
“OUT OF THE WAY HOT ROD!!!!”
@@anubis8181 still not his fault Prime choked
Hate me tomorrow Hot Rod/ Rodimus prime is a decent leader who got one of the few character arcs in the G1 series.
Interesting to note, Frank Welker (Megatron) also voiced Wheely (That little annoying rhyming robot) That's how great he is at voice acting. They do't call him the 'voice god' for nothing.
gutz1981 Didn't he provide some noises for Ravage as well?
gutz1981 transformers movie g2
He was most of the Cons. Soundwave, Ravage, Laserbeak, Season 3 Galvatron, various Junkions, etc.
And soundwave, ravage and laserbeak
🤮
2:47 "Good God, if this intro was any more 80s, it'd just be some leg warmers doing cocaine off a picture of Ronald Reagan." Subbed.
Is it wrong that I'd rather see that movie?!!!
This was my first introduction to Transformers
And because of it, I have an unquenchable thirst for anything with giant robots
Same!
But who doesn't love giant robots? They're awesome!!
This movie is my counter to anyone who says the red wedding was unprecedented. They made us watch our favourite characters get gunned down and beaten to death.
I disagree but okay.
So true. And they did it to kids
there is only one way to stop unicron. do not buy his toy
For a time, Unicron considered sparing fans from being able to buy his toy. But then they witnessed Armada.
that toy wasnt that bad one of the only decent one from the armada line
Well, that shouldn't be that hard to do. He wouldn't even get his own toy until Transformers Armada in 2003. :P
so only in 2003 did he have his big weakness
so 2 years before the movie
Having the death of Optimus Prime lead to a lot of shows not kill any main character for years.... The backlash was so bad thats why they brought him back.... I mean lets not for get the backlash caused them to throw in the line "hes in a coma" into the gi joe movie
thancrus GoBots was not stupid enough to kill Leader-1!
not only did they bring him back BUT outside the US they added on some narration STATING he would be back in the very next season to avoid the backlash.
The first time I think the writers were trying to do a proper torch-passing to Rodimus. It didn't work, so they just brought him back for good. Then Japan killed him off because Japan has a habit of killing heroes in their shows. (See Roy in Macross/Robotech and Gurren Lagan spoiler for examples.)
thancrus I went the movies to see and me and my brother went bat shit crazy when Optimus died. Are perants had to take us home. Alot of kids left the movie house crying.
I loved go-bot as well still have about 15 of the originals
For a second I thought Gene Hackman had died and no one told me! He's just retired. Phew!
Hail To The Chin same
Honestly. Would you want to continue making films after working with Ray Romano?
Patrick Stewart was just in "The Emoji Movie." Let's hope he makes something else soon.
Same here.
Anthony Keller Cool. Who’s Picard?
12:46 "Megatron? Is that you?" .... "Here's a hint!"
Nimoy jumped into that role!
I bet if Rachet was still alive he would’ve been able to fix Optimus Prime.
But what's the fun in that?
Probably got shot in the cosmitron again. And since Wheeljack's dead, too, and Cybertron's fully owned by the Decepticons, good luck finding another spare in Wheeljack's workshop.
Or if Ratchet wasn’t on that ship would be more accurate
Cant believe you didn't mention "Dare to be Stupid" was written and preformed by "Weird" Al.
K4rt80y
Despite growing up watching this movie over and over, I’d forgotten that. Weird Al and Wreck-Gar are more connected than I thought!!
For the 80's, this animation is quite amazing. It even holds up to today
It is even better than some modern animated shows honestly
"for the 80s"
there's plenty of amazing 80s animated features, sure the TV animation budgets were often low but in movies the animation is usually always great.
@@JurassicReptilefor sure, the 80's had some of the best most innovative animation, the stuff nowadays just looks clearer, it isn't any better
Quit hating on Stan Bush. The soundtrack is finely aged cheese.
at least someone agrees with me still my favorite of the transformers movies I don't think the live action ones will hold up very good 20 years from now either .
Yeah agreed, it might be nostalgia but every single one of the songs brings a dumb grin to my face when I hear it.
I wasn't born until the 90s and didn't see anything from G1 until after the second Bay movie came out. So, I'm able to say this without any nostalgia goggles: This movie's soundtrack is awesome!
Tery Aki "The soundtrack is intrusive" Fuck off Brandon, just fuck off
the two Stan Bush songs: The Touch and Dare are the only real great songs in it! The others were just dumb or weird. Who else would sing them? Bruce Springsteen or Queen maybe?
I saw this movie when I was six. My cousin was really into transformers and had a DVD copy of it. I to this day have yet to feel more shocked, and full of suspense from a movie and Unicron's voice is still etched into my mind
"I.... Am Unicron" What if Orson Welles voiced Darth Vader, naahhhh James Earl Jones is Vader's voice
Fun Fact: they had to run Orson's voice through several filters and turn up the volume just to get it loud enough to understand. He practically mumbled his way through his lines.
@@Brastius Well dude, that's 'cause Orson Wells was literally dying the whole time the move was made. Which is why it's the last "movie role" he ever took in his life because he died not long after the movie was made.
@@RppRussell Orson Welles didn't even care about the role. He just took it and later said I was the voice of some planet robot that does nothing then gets killed.
The deaths of prowl,brawn,rachet and Ironhide were so sad
Halo Gaming actually their deaths were more shocking than sad to me. Optimus Prime's Death was sad though.
Heroic Nonsense
"What the fuckticons"
Wrecker Reviews Astrobastards!
😆😆😆😆😆👍👍
Anyone else cry when Prime died? *raises hand guiltily.*
You and the rest of the universe brother
Not me. I know that may sound pretty harsh coming from a long-time Transformers fan,
but hear me out. The thing is, Beast Wars was my gateway Transformers series.
And when Optimus Primal died at the beginning of season 2, later on he came back to life.
Which also happened in Armada, and Energon. So Optimus Prime dying became kind of a trope for me.
Since I knew he would most likely come back to life later on.(unfortunately, the G1 Movie didn't do that)
There's that one, too
“Hey kids remember all those characters from the show you’ve always wanted to see on the big screen, well fuck you their dead now” is my hands down favorite thing this man has said
And this movie not only immortalized perhaps the most unintentionally brilliant music choices of the era but also made sure that Optimus Prime now had to die at least once in EVERY damn iteration of the show, and the comics. XD
Well they had Hot Rod as Luke, Arcee as Leia, Kup was Obi-Wan, who didn't die, so guess you could say Wheelie was Jar Jar.
Except he came first, so doesn't that mean Jar Jar is Wheelie?
dragonstormx No I just consider Wheelie IS LIKE Jar Jar. Annoying, speaks nonsense, and contributes little to the overall plot.
So who was Han Solo? Springer?
ranwolf76 Yeah, I'd say so.
Star Wars didn't invent the heroes journey or any of those archetypes
Also, Stan Bush's music was easily the best thing in this movie outside the pretty great animation. (I know it's a joke but Stan Bush is the fuckin' man 😂)
Stan Bush 2 songs: He sang Dare too was really the only good songs in it! Even for 1980's most of the songs were strange!
Jim Jim Excuse me, Hunger? Nothing's gonna stand in our way? Even the redone Transformers theme is amazing. I hate Dare to be stupid though (sorry Weird Al, love your other stuff though)
agree the Dare to be Stupid i liked about 3 times but about 10 weird al songs are better there!
hunger and nothings gonna stand in our way are amazing.
Not to mention the amazing music by vince dicola
I'll take this over any of the Michael Bay Shitfests anyday.
I'll take Transformers Transwarped over any of them tbh
I agree with you
Brendan F'n O'Keeffe Michael Bay’s movies are awesome,you don’t know what you’re talking about!
First one was alright, but they just went downhill afterwards. Not only that, but it seemed like the first three movies had to focus on Shia "the spaz" LeBouf. It's Transformers! We should be focusing on them. I don't give a shit what Shia's character is doing, I came to see giant alien robots!
@OtherWorlds AllWorlds sigh.......
The soundtrack is great
Wait, is that why all the old cast in Star Wars was killed off?
No that was so fans would stop asking for them.
@@R3troZone
Well, as far as I can tell, it horribly backfired.
To be fair, with the exception of Prime and the jets, the ones they killed off had shitty toy designs. Even Megatron’s was lame with that stumpy torso.
@@R3troZone well either way Harrison Ford sees them as a win
I can't remember where I read it, but a theory suggests that Unicron was not able to transform into a robot initially. It was something that he learnt how to accomplish due to having contact with Megatron and copying his body schematics and re-configuring himself to do it. Bottom line, Unicron was not a Transformer until he met one and stole their unique ability.
Naw, the fiction cleared it up. Unicron is a singularity, and Like Primus hid himself as a planet.....
In the comic continuity Primus actually stole the idea from him, and gave it to his children who were created for the sole purpose of fighting Unicron. Buut then Primus took a nap, he was nearly forgotten by his creations and the whole cybertronian civil war happened. (On the whole that was a good thing because the peaceful and prosperous society built in his absence could have never stood up to Unicron.)
Unicron was a planet eating planet, but primacron(look it up) somehow turned him into a million foot tall robot. But primacron's pet thing died when the lab blew up and the pet was like primus, it had the matrix inside of it.
gutz1981 just cus he said he was going to rip his head off doesn't mean he wasn't choking hin
Or maybe he just didn't need to expend the energy till that moment? Perhaps?
The theme song is what badassery is made of. I play it sometimes when I'm a bit behind on leaving for work, and let me tell you; there is nothing like doing 85mph weaving in and out of traffic to TRANSFORMEEEEEEERRRS!ROBOTS IN DISGUISE!
The Ironic part is that Weird Al actually goes on to voice a remake of the Eric Idle robot.
TFA Wreck-Gar was the best!
Scratch that, TFA was the best!
@@brobot500 Heck yeah! Not to mention Lugnut and Blitzwing!
Brobot 500 Absolutely 😎👍🏻!
Mitch Fletcher I loved that duo 😁!
4:16
Actually, Frank Welker returned in Transformers 5 as Megatron, so there you go
Gavaltron, actually. And he was also Gavaltron's voice for Season 3 of the G1 cartoon.
@@JCBro-yg8vd Yeah, but instead of doing Galvatron's voice like Leonard Nimoy's or do it like how he always does with Megatron, he does it completely shrill and high pitched. I always hated it when I started watching the original series.
Brandon tenold: can you imagine someone killing the original characters to make room for the new characters.
Me: Disney with the original characters from star wars in the sequel trilogy.
"Thats like the N word on their planet Kup." LMAO
I saw this movie in the cinema when I was 8 years old and that scene where Prowls eyes light up then smoke comes out of his mouth gave me nightmares. Childhood trauma confirmed.
I think these robots have genders because the aliens who built them had no gender but wanted to sell them to races that did to appeal. so if you think about it, Arcee is an alien sex toy.
"Ruin my childhood"
My childhood has been over for quite some time, so you can't really ruin it.
6:50 - At least I can tell the robots from one another - This is a great point! I could never get into the Michael Bay movies because I couldn't follow who was who or what they were doing.
Yeah. And I never liked how they kept introducing characters only to kill them off either in the same movie or early in the next one. It became so annoying.
Nobody could.
@@truefanforum3273 I was lukewarm on the scene where our hero and moral leader Optimus cold-bloodedly executes a defeated Megatron as he pleads for his life.
@@michaelccozensLook what happened when Optimus didn’t do that.
Best Transformers movie yet, and kickass soundtrack. I wonder how Michael Bay will **** up Unicron in T5.
The soundtrack is so metal a leather vest and combat boots appeared in my closet the day after I listened to it.
Unicron will be distracted by boobs and killed by whatever dues ex machina Bay includes about five minutes before it's needed.
well bay did the transformers prime of unicron
John Rust correction, how will Bay F**k up Unicron in TF6.
Tanner Price nah, how will Unicron fuck up earth since he is in earth.
he made him earth. I like the bay films but even I thought that was stupid.
I didn't even watch the cartoon, and I love this movie.
Jacob Smith Same.
Jacob Smith I
Yeah!!! This is very cool movie!!!
Jacob
thats exactly why you like it if you saw the show first it would piss you off to no end
7:56 You know, this is the second time I've seen where "getting screwed" was the perfect phrase to describe what was going on.
Source?
Yes for a friend
@@ExodiaTheD1HATER I'm late but well.... that's from an anime called "Panty and Stocking with Garterbelt", don't remember from which episode, but that series is wild.
why the fuck does that even exist it's from japan so what do you expect but that seems really fucked up this was a kids show and japan has to show robots fucking like what the hell
@@zeropelli7026 P&SwithG was made influenced by the american show "Drawn Together", so neither of those are meant for children.
"come on soundwave it's 2005 can't you change into a DVD player"
man, it's a 1986 movie
One of the interesting things about the movie is how it basically ties into the show and continues the story in later episodes/seasons. You don't see that kind of media connection nowadays.
I remember when this came out, the older toys (Megatron, etc) were the ones kids in my town wanted, because they were pretty rare and hard to get. The kid who had the Soundwave that could play real tapes was treated like a rock star.
Fluffykeith did you hsve sl toys growing up thre those thigbare getting kid hard ti find thse dsy expacky in mint condition
@@zacharyjochumsen9677 I had a bunch of the early toys, yeah. They're all in a box in the basement atm. Busted as all hell....I played with them, I didn't keep them mint.
You can try to ruin the movie but you can't because it's masterpeace
ax D it's a giant toy commercial
@@lakitudude7577 a masterpiece toy comercial
@@lakitudude7577 and even then, its millions of times better than bayformers
@@tylerworrell4446 Not Dark Of The Moon.
Ah, shut up. You don’t even know how to fucking spell “masterpiece.”
This movie, much like the show, is a giant toy commercial. If it weren’t, the characters with discontinued toys wouldn’t have been brutally slaughtered in the first 30 minutes. The tone is all over the place, whiplashing back and forth between grim and serious and lighthearted, and the plot is resolved with a stupid deus ex machina macguffin that shows up out of nowhere.
None of that should stop you from enjoying the movie, but a masterpiece it fucking isn’t, and that’s from someone who loves this movie and begged my mom to take me to the theater to see it when I was a kid.
Me Grimlock not Godzilla rip off, me Grimlock KING!
Brains? Grimlock know how to bash brains. Maybe bash yours.
Me Grimlock the only surviving character not immensely annoying!
Who even compares a T-Rex Robot Man to the king of the monsters?
Filip Cordas I prefer fall of cybertron grimlock because how you tear enemies to shreds
Tripticon is the Godzilla rip off not Grimlock
I was 6 when this came out and it blew my mind! I'm 40 now and i realize the huge amount of violence for the first 20 minutes is crazy thinking about it now but for an 80's kids movie it was normal i guess
Man that Ironhide death scene, made be feel weird the first time I watched it. The music with the visuals was just pitch and tone perfect to create something disturbing. I'm like that was new, but I was still drawn in like moths to a flame. It's amazing even how at a young age you can assert blame. As a child I never forgave hot rod. Lol. I liked how the 80s risked more with kids media, we had no trigger warnings we just had to deal with life. And they conveyed life in certain media (ahem - watership down) 😅
I was 12 years old when I saw this movie in the theatre with my friends and my 5 year old brother. Kids were crying when the Autobots died and bawling when Opitmus died.
which was why they changed the scene in GI Joe where Duke takes the snake to the chest from Serpentor to being in a coma (Duke was actually supposed to be dead...which gives Falcon's story arc more redemption) but the kids crying over Optimus caused the GI Joe Movie to change it because they didn't want to break kids like that again
@@craigbrown4544 We took enough trauma.
There was actually a deleted scene where Ultra Magnus dies by the Sweeps ripping his limbs apart. To violent for this, apparently.
bigevilworldwide1 maybe one of those "Mandala Effect" things I saw a Cinemassacre video on?
No, the scene existed. You can actually still see the sweeps fire their "laser ropes" in the movie before Ultra Magnus is blown apart. Just check the Teletran Wiki.
ZoidFile It was story boarded, but the scene was never animated, there's a RUclips video around showing all the extra story boarded deaths that weren't made.
It was story boarded and animated, however the animation was altered from a draw&quarter death to a simple explosion. The altered animation is even easy to notice with the awkward way Ultra Magnus is shot, stumbles, falls, THEN explodes. It's not just awkward, it's inconsistent with every other blast death in the movie.
The Draw&Quarter intention of the death IS important to note though. As it makes Ultra Magnus' "resurrection' actually a simple repair job of putting the parts back in place. I'm sure an autobot would have no trouble surviving their arms/legs ripped off. Even removing his head might not be fatal, if he hadn't taken significant damage beforehand. The point with Prime is that he shot [completely through] his torso(as the animation shows). He essentially "bled out", which also props up his death scene as being understandable that he lasted that long. In Ultra Magnus' case though, no critical systems were damaged.
also they way magnus growns like hes being puled a part....
You know, I'd like to see another popular TV show get the movie treatment and kill off the main cast within the first 30 minutes, just to see how fans would react.
They should do it with the rumoured upcoming Friends movie.
My Little Pony: The Next Generation.
Invaders enter Canterlot and none of the Mane cast can stop them. Now it is up to the Cutie Mark Crusaders and their new friends to find the magic that is friendship and save their homes.
The Walking Dead
I second the walking dead, plus game of thrones, sons of anarchy,and breaking bad..... All the shows coworkers who barely know anything about me beyond my name insist "Oh you'd LOVE it !". Slaughter em all
I was thinking what if the GIJoe movie had been the same as this, I know that one guy went "into a coma" but what if they had an early scene where four main characters get shot dead by cobra troopers.
I’m 44 years old and I’m still traumatized from seeing Prime die and I still hate Hot Rod!
Love the hell out of this flick. Just picked up the 30th steel yesterday.
🤘
The final role for my favorite actor, Orson Welles. That gives it a special place in my heart.
Well, the video image certainly sums up most kids who saw this back in the day, myself included. Think the ending of Passion of The Christ, but it's little kids crying instead of adults. And Brandon, to your point around 5:15-uh, no, there were some upset/crying kids. TRUST ME.
I was one of those kids. I had to be carried out by my Dad. Optimus Prime meant so much to me as a kid!
Preach, brother!
The funny thing was they actually had to tack on the annoucement that Optimus Prime would return in the next season of Transformers to the end of the film outside of America (at least I remember having it here in the UK) to stop kids being really bummed out by it.
And yeah, Considering Prowl was my favorite character and he just gets gunned down, I was bawling my eyes out when it happened.
I didn't get to see TF The Movie during the theatrical run and had to wait for its initial release on home video to see it. But it still upset me as a kid to see so many old guard Autobots, as I liked to think of them, die or already laying dead in the movie. When I saw Optimus Prime die because Hot Rod rushed in trying to be a hero during Prime's last fight with Megatron in Megatron's original form, that just turned my world upside down. I actually spent the rest of my childhood refusing to think of G1's third season as being part of the same universe as the first two. I looked at that whole season as some Transformers alternate universe because to me, Transformers just didn't seem right without the battle of wits and strength between Optimus and Megatron. Plus I remembered Starscream's line from Search for Alpha Trion about Optimus Prime's death being a long sought victory for Decepticons, and it just didn't seem right to give Starscream that satisfaction in his move to the afterlife. Maybe if writers then didn't overdo it falling too much on story lines about Rodimus Prime's doubts about filling Optimus's shoes in being a good leader to the Autobots, I would have warmed up to the season sooner. It wasn't until after runs of the Beast Wars, Beast Machines, and the 2000 to 2001 Robots in Disguise series that I completely warmed up to G1 season 3's place in the G1 continuity.
I don't even watch transformers and never have and god damn it's so insane. Like did Hasbro know what they were doing? That must have been fucking brutal to any kid that saw this. I mean fuck imagine if, I don't know, Tin Tin or something tried to pull this.
I own this movie and all four g1 seasons on dvd I love the original series
Same
P0cket Rcket Me too.
I think you were only joking about it and all ready know, but the older characters weren't killed off because of their own toys being sold poorly, far from it. Hasbro just wanted more of a focus be put onto the new 1986 toys at the time. Ironically enough two characters Jazz and Cliffjumper (both from 84) survived, but were silently removed since actors Scatman Crothers (Jazz) died from lung cancer months after the film was released and Casey Kasem (Cliffjumper) left the show at the start of the third season out of protest for he didn't like the portrayal of Islamic characters in the show. Oh and of curse you didn't mention the biggest elephant in the room where Optimus Prime comes back to life, but there you go.
An interesting piece of trivia: because of the reaction to the death of Optimus Prime, the fate of the character Duke in "GI JOE The Movie" was changed. Originally, he was also supposed to be killed, but this was rewritten to have him end up in a coma and surviving.
Yup. Met Michael Bell years back, signed my copy of the movie.
I saw this movie in the theater w/my brother & mother. My brother & I were freaking TRAUMATIZED! My mom was so confused bc she never looked at the show and was shocked at how dark ish was.
AND THE SOUNDTRACK WAS FREAKING MAJESTIC! I still listen to it to this day!
Rodimus unleashed the essence of Primus within Unicron, thus destroying his physical form.
There is no Primus in G1 TF cartoon continuity.
@@serbianslav5494 Yh not in the cartoon actually. The G1 comics had him tho
@@screamingstar5395, I know. That's why I said "G1 TF cartoon continuity" and not just "G1 TF continuity".
@@serbianslav5494 Ik. I probably blended the two together when I wrote this. It was 2 years ago so idk what I meant. 🤷♂️
I'm 50 years old and i'm still traumatized by this movie.
Was it really that scaring?
@@dragb9284 It wasn't scary, it was disturbing. Watching all of your hero's get sinslessly murdered in the first 10 minutes. Crazy.
Hasbro may've grossly underestimated how devastated kids would be by the killing off of Prime, but at least they gave him a memorable death scene.
How dare you sir the music is amazing.
Ooof, the strike made him remove Billbo Baggins
There's a review of this film from 1986 complaining about the loud noises and action that only kids will find interesting. It's amazing because it could be copy and pasted as a review for the Bay films.
"Despite these improvements, though, the movie is not for anyone too grown-up.
"While all this action may captivate young children, the animation is not spectacular enough to dazzle adults, and the Transformers have few truly human elements to lure parents along, even when their voices are supplied by well-known actors.
"Children have an advantage here, for they can project their playtime scenarios on the old friends and heroes in action on the screen, while parents may just wonder what the fuss is about." - LOL
Frank Welker is also the roars and growls of a shitload of monsters and creatures, including Sharptooh in the first Land Before Time movie and the dragon in The Pagemaster.
That man is a freaking legend
He was also the voice of Chomper in the Land Before Time sequel that came out 6 years later.
I love this movie, the sound track is awesome & the story is great. I saw it when I was a kid & still watch it sometimes today. Such a good movie.
19:26 "Congratulations fellas, your toys sold well enough for you to live." So there's a Spike Witwicky toy? Not that I would care to own it... unless it was an Autobot Spike toy.
That robot sex scene is from “panty and stocking with garterbelt” episode 7 . 😂😂
Transformers 80’s version is still great.
Thank you 😈
I'm going to be honest with you I'm not the only person who wanted to know what that was from
Thanks a lot
FINALLY
I have that anime on dvd and the movie references are hilarious lol
do the beast from 20,000 fathoms
Pete The Hamster Comic dubs and more no please DX
i've tho that's the first Godzilla i EVER watched
I'm on board there!
Not The Beast from 20,000 Fathoms. Thinking about the movie review of American Pie, please?
Yes plz
Yonggary.
Damn you for making me freak out and look up if Gene Hackman had died.
Eric Jones I felt the same.
Little bit of trivia. Dare To Be Stupid was written and performed by Weird Al Yankovic, he also voiced one of the characters. Al originally wanted to do a parody to DEVo's Whip it, when he could not get permission to do so, he came up with his own synth line and song. Dare To Be Stupid is actually pretty amazing, so much so that the guys from DEVO have come out and said they should have let him use Whip It.
FYI: the Autobot Matrix was first introduced in the Marvel Comic Book. This means that the fans knew about the Matrix beforehand.
Plot armor exists
Transformers the movie: throws it completely out the window
The 1986 Transformers movie is superior to all Bayformers movies combined for two big reasons: 1) 99% of it's runtime is focused on, filled with and entirely about the Transformers. 2) Superior soundtrack.
But it's still a shameless toy commerical
Unlike Transformers Transwarped which told us an amazing story full of great character moments, fight scenes, awesome callbacks, and was an amazing opening to season three of TFA!
No, just no. Transformers the series and the movie have huge glaring issues on their own.
At 0:08 Brandon handily sums up basically every problem with the whole entertainment industry.
Well done.
Edit: Where'd you get that old revolver? I was expecting you to use some cheap toy glock or something and then you bust out that classy piece of work.
except for the rotten tomatoes part, I can't take that website seriously
Man, I remember when PG movies had to have a boob or two (original Clash of the Titans, look it up), and using curses was the bastion of last resort.
I saw Prime’s death online one time and I was like, “wait, what? Why?”
This is my favorite Marvel film
"Do Transformers actually... do it?"
Nope, they reproduce asexually through robotic spores.
I wish I was making that up.
Hmmm, it seems we have different sources.
I thought that they were created by an artifact called the allspark
@@zacglover3345 I'm talking G1 timeline (And more specifically the Marvel timeline, but it's also canon to the G1 cartoon timeline due to Beast Wars).
So the Voice of Megatron also Voices Scooby Doo? O_O Woah
Michael Jr Sadgwar Ruh-Roh!
And the 1998 Godzilla, and the Sharptooth and Spike.
If you dare to check on IMDB, you can see Frank Welker's voice credits.
Now you know scooby is the ruler of the deceptions.
@@邪眼の男 well being shaggys best friend gets you places
fun fact: the "You Got the Touch" song is also used in Boogie Nights...
10:31 Thank you for that. I rarely laugh.
I lost it when you pulled out an old blackpowder revolver
Wow I had no idea there was a sci-fi version of Game of Thrones.