No One is Talking About Electric Car Deaths, So I Have to
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Is Tesla an American car company?
This is the most important video you ever made Scotty 👍
What do you think about "Anti-Rollover Omni-wheel"?
Thank you Scott, I like facts you cover it well, much respect
You have Venezuelans pretending to be you I'd throw a warning out to everyone so nobody gets screwed by the scammers
At a hospital I worked at. The lithium battery hospital portable workstation shorted out and battery caught on fire. The staff reported the fire shot out like a rocket engine. The metal box the lithium battery was located melted. The toxic fumes required evacuation of that hospital floor.
I see where you are going with this my goodness i don’t even want to begin to imagine what that would do to the poor injured occupants in one of these environmental disaster EV pieces of crap
Let's not forget that lithium battery's have to be sealed water tight as water and lithium mix like gas and fire
First step: be crushed.
Second step: get burned.
Third step: get gassed if you survive?
And the slimey powers that be high 5'd.
They're making money on the Lithium mines, it's as cheap as dirt. That's why they want us using it.
What no one is talking about is even in a small collision there can be battery damage that may trigger a delayed short circuit and battery fire days after the collision. If a EV is in a minor collision it's not to be parked in a garage or close to other cars until the battery condition is checked over. I'm learning to completely avoid the current styles of EV's that are using dangerous battery systems.
But, but I heard if you die in an electric car you go straight to green heaven
An excellent and compelling point!
But, but I heard if you die in a pollution-based car you go straight to grey heaven
Yes, this happened with Richard Hammond when he crashes that Rimac
More traffic deaths are on the way with these faux environmentally green cars. Physics is physics, those laws can not be changed. And I hope you love extended recharging times on any extended trips.
My 1967 Alfa Romeo was like a not-so-smart but loving dog. It depended on me for everything and was dependable, when maintained. Maintenance was easy and understandable. Its nuts were metric - not one 'inch' and the other 'metric'. It never ran off for no reason and stayed when I wanted it to stay and never, ever burst into flames.
the biggest danger comes from fire after a crash, and beside the safety, a gas car can be fixet, EV are mostly trash, the battery even if it has only light damage, can't be used anymore! they sold us a big lie with this EV, the other factor is elettrosmog, in Germany a university tested, the fields created by electromobility range from zero Hertz (static fields) to several tens or hundreds of kilohertz (low-frequency fields and fields in the so-called intermediate frequency range). It is not yet known what effect the values have on health, but I remember as they told us to don't sleep beside your Laptop, now imagine the effect of your body from such strong electromagnetic fields!
Lithium battery fires in general are much more dangerous than people realize. For one, they can happen spontaneously. You are asleep and the phone on your nightstand suddenly turns into a blowtorch.
Billions (with a B) smart phones in the world. I don't think people are rushing to move their phone outside.
Stop putting fear in people yes the fires can be very bad but what are the chances I mean it would be gigantic news if there were that many house burning because of phones
@@Floww23 > Galaxy Note 7 has entered the chat. 😂
@@Floww23 one can still exercise caution without getting extreme. Something as simple as having rules around phone use that prevent you from falling asleep with it on your bed can save you from severe harm if it catches fires, which has absolutely happened. People sleeping with and on their phone. Just do some google searching.
Also, a more guaranteed issue health concern is the constant proximity to the EMF radiation amplified by it, commonly, being tied into Wi-Fi signals at night. That is the larger issue why people should have health oriented rules around their phone and consider sleeping far from it.
While this was true with early EVs, it’s not happening any more.
As a 21 yr police officer having investigated thousands of collisions, this is spot on. Please stay off the phone while driving, it can be fatal in the blink of an eye. Very tragic and painful to make the death notifications. Drive safe. Thank you Scotty for this.
Thank you for your service!
Hey brother I'm a Christian, praise the Lord! Your name prompted me to say that. As an officer man we appreciate you to hold up the truth and justice, with the wickedness out there and cops going to jail for doing their jobs is crazy. People are protecting criminals
Death notification should be pretty easy, just finish their text for them, its already unlocked.
Heavy? So are rocks, Bridge embankments. How about driving uncontrolled down the side of a mountain. How heavy the other vehicle is should cause you to drive slower, more carefully. Some accidents may their fault.
The main point is where are you going after your or your family members death? 1Cor 15 3-4. Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, his death, burial and his resurrection for savation and eternal life.
I am one of those parents who's child was killed in 2014 as the passenger and his girlfriend was driving. She made a left turn into oncoming traffic. She barely had a scratch. I'm not saying this for sympathy, but because the poor police officers that have to go to the families homes to tell the parents, spouses, etc, and hear the initial disbelief, the denial, then the screaming, and the crying. Those men and women in law enforcement that have to do that job have my complete respect and admiration. @Praise The Lord Thank you for your service and God Bless you. There is nothing and I mean nothing worse than when an officer(s) are standing in your doorway or in your home telling you that your son or daughter was killed in an automobile accident.
I'm old school, I think a driver should always maintain control of their vehicle.
that should be common sense
Old school with common sense and insight.
Try living here in south africa. People stop at traffic light and stops when they want to, even stop on surface of road to load or ofload pasengers. So one often has to avoid accidents even if u control ur car well....
I wouldn't ride, let alone BUY one.
Human drivers cause a lot more deaths than autonomous vehicles like Tesla.
I'll never own an electric car. Ever. Everyone I know that has them say they would never buy another.
Interesting points. The big one I had always thought about was the batteries, like when Richard Hammon crashed that Rimac electric hypercar, and the batteries kept catching on fire for months afterwards
You are over exaggerating. Yes it is harder to stop the fire but in such a crash hadn't Hammond not been in an BEV he probably wouldn't have made it out alive as the engine would have been sitting in his lap due to the high force impact. In the Rimac OTOH he had the low center of gravity and large crumple zones on the car saving his bacon.
Months?
Not to mention the fear first responders have when approaching an EV, first they try to find the key fob and get as far from the car as possible to keep it from inadvertently moving, secound they have to determine if the 400v of the battery is shorted to the body, finally they have to figure out how to safely cut for extrication without hitting any major power cables.
Nightmare 😬
Incorrect all Tesla's have a power cut that first responders are informed of. Can't speak for other EV manufacturers but most high-end products will be equipped
@@booobtooober incorrect. I'm a first responder and this sentence doesn't make any sense at all.
@@booobtooober But if the cutoff was badly damaged and in a mess of shredded metal. You'd still have to check that the body wasn't hot. Before you even tried to gain access to it.
Meanwhile there's no data or evidence to suggest global warming is real.
It really is sad how many people are on their phones while driving. Blows my mind how people can be so incredibly selfish, and stupid.
I haul gasoline and I can tell you almost everyone who passes me is dabbling on their phone! I’m convinced cell phones have already surpassed DUI deaths. The only thing is you could never prove this since many who’ve died were only reading on their phone and not texting. More wrecks are happening on straight roads too. Like interstate. People think because the road is straight, now I can dabble. I’ve seen it happen many times.
We need a better public transit system, particularly for those who can't respect the privilege of driving.
I’ve seen people with a newspaper or a book propped on their steering wheel. 😱
Hands free for talking and texting work fine. If my conversation requires more focus and detail, I pull off the road. Not so hard.
I just got hit on my motorcycle. It was a front end collision because a woman was on the phone texting and turn it into my lane. I am 75 years old it’s a wonder she’s not up for vehicle Homicide. Needless to say I’m not walking so well nowadays.
The other thing about EVs is that they can turn into a literall ball of fire after a collision if the battery gets damaged, and it is a hard fire to put out requiring hours of firefighter supervision before it's deemed safe
Not to mention that the occupants sit directly on top of the HUGE EV batteries , they are literally under the entirety of an EV cars floor, where as the battery in an ICE vehicle is isolated out in the engine bay. Not only is the EV battery a significant fire hazard, but the toxic gases and fumes from a damaged EV car battery can easily be fatal.,even if it does not catch fire.
EV fires are difficult to put out because basically it is a chemical fire. It doesn't require oxygen to burn.
And they can reignite hours to days later. So placing them in a wrecking yard, compound or dump with other EVs potential mass fires could break out.
Fire departments simply don't have the equipment and means to put out a larger scale fire.
Thats a problem with litium ion, not EV's. Newer FLP batteries are safer
@@reahs4815 FLP IS NOT PROVEN YET
They dont want people to drive.
There needs to be a secondary crash safety rating based on the severity of damage an EV inflicts to other vehicles of varying weight and body type.
I was driving home from shopping with my wife about a week ago and we seen a big plume of black/blue smoke coming from the town next to ours. We thought it looked toxic so didnt go to investigate but we checked on the news to see if anything was mentioned about it. As it turns out there is a large storage parking for brand new cars where one electric vehicle had spontaneously combusted and ended up burning over 100 other electric vehicles parked alongside it. It took the fire department over a day to get them put out and they had to bring in a special group who dealt with toxic fires using some sort of foam. Great job for the environment
Go green, save the planet, vote democrat!
😂🤣😂🤣
Cool story bro. Post the link...
I'll wait.
.exactly
Those batteries are very radioactive chain reaction fires
All that water is full of toxic material that will never break down.
I thought the whole point of EVs was to conserve resources! LOL! The EV Hummer weighs in as much as a friggen armored car!
All this is really about the weight of the vehicle. Trucks weight more than small cars. The weight of the vehicle is not it seems considered in the purchase for most vehicle purchases. If America cared about this , why did American car manufacturers give up on cars for the most part. Scotty you missed this point.
@@terryg1204 US manufacturers gave up on cars because of profit and greed as usual...
That car is a rolling stupidity
@@ginog5037 greedy for making more of the vehicles that sell the most and make the most money in America… wow I can’t believe their audacity
@@terryg1204 people stopped buying cars. They saw people having crashes trucks hitting cars the truck came off OK in most cases the car was a wreck and almost a fatality So when their car got written off they replaced it with a truck.
This is a real eye-opener! All of this information revealed here I was not aware of. Am not a fan of EV's to begin with but have many friends who are. Thank you for posting this video!
Then I guess you haven’t done your homework. First will be the cost to purchase (more expensive than old reliable), cost to install a level 2 charger in your house (unless you can wait the 2-3 days to charge it with the charger the car comes with), electric vehicle fee (replaces the gas tax), high registration fee (usually goes by weight), higher insurance premiums (insurance companies usually total the car if the battery is damaged), electric vehicle disposal fees (you WILL , not maybe have to replace the battery within 8-10 years. Car won’t be worth half of the $20,000 cost which means EVs will become disposable cars and it’s not like the old days where you pulled off the road, took the plates off and walked away).
I have a Toyota RAV4 hybrid. I immediately noticed a difference when handling turns in my Toyota compared to my normal gas Mazda CX-5. I REALLY miss my Cx-5. I don’t feel as safe driving in winter conditions and now have to drive more cautiously.
As a retired firefighter paramedic I can tell you the extrication training will need to change due to the batteries and their electric hazard. Even with air bags and other safety features, a high speed crash or roll over will be more significant and will cause more serious injuries. Extra weight is a serious concern.
Nice to know ! Thanks .
Hasn't been the case so far.
actually, yes, it has@@tedmoss
These trainings are already been done and on-going. World didn't stop when you retired.
Need to outlaw heavy vehicles !!
I witnessed a fatal wreck between a Ram 3500 CTD and a F150 caused by the Ram's driver dropping his cell phone. All 5 people in the Ram got out uninjured and started calling on their cell phones. Poor guy in the F150 killed instantly.
R.I.P F150 driver. So unfair
Hope that Dodge driver gets manslaughter charges.
I was hit on my way to my job in 2007 and after 3 major back surgeries, losing my career, barely making ends meet the driver who hit me was laughing about it 20 minutes after the accident with family who came to pick him up. These damned "accident's" ruin and end lives and in many cases it should be considered murder when the one responsible is texting or intoxicated.
@@masterofate4852 Imagine maiming someone in a horrible accident and laughing about it while you get away just fine. Wtf??
@@TeaMollie11
Yeah that’s definitely a piece of trash
One major change that needs to happen is a change to the regulations on ‘commercial light trucks’ since that is what is driving car companies to produce ever larger and heavier pickup trucks rather than sedans, hatchbacks, etc. The USA is the only developed country where road fatalities are increasing year on year and that is mostly because of pickup trucks being increasingly prevalent.
Pickup trucks are heavier and have much worse visibility, especially as companies focus on making extraordinarily large hoods as a marketing gimmick. This has unfortunately resulted in a massive increase of children being run over and killed, often by their own parents in their own driveways.
I like radar assisted cruise control. It's crap in some cars but pretty decent in others. When I used to have a long commute it very much reduced fatigue. That said, you still need to learn the quirks with each car and pay attention. For instance in a Honda, if someone cuts you off it will dangerously slam on the brakes. Our Mazda is much smoother and will deal with the situation more naturally. I've not tried a Tesla, but whatever the case, you basically have to learn about the system and where its shortcomings exist and constantly look out for those situations.
I don't think level 5 or 6 will ever really exist, but basic adaptive cruise control, if not abused. I think will help with fatigue on long drives.
I don't think I'll ever buy an EV though as they just don't make sense. Maybe a hybrid, but not sure. Gasoline works great and I see no reason to abandon it.
I hate EVs when they can make one that charges itself maybe but right now I can't see paying for a tesla 60k 80k or more I can't even get to LA from bay area gas vehicle it takes 5 hours tesla 1 or 2 days no can do its a waste of my time
You should never drive tired.
I can only imagine how much MORE car insurance will cost us.😭
Additional safety features actually lower your insurance, tesla actually as a system you can opt into that tracks how well you drive and if its within a range of safety your insurance cost is lowered.
Many insurance companies have the same thing, just a chip that you plug into your vehicle that records your driving actions. What a bunch of pansies, who the hell wants to be monitored every second of your life from cradle to grave....how boring can that be, anyway?
Yea and everyone will get screwed on that even if they drive a normal sensible vehicle like a gas powered vehicle
@@Cemow777 but the insurance is ridiculously high on those crap boxes anyway
@@jeromejakubowski7763 my Tesla insurance is almost half the cost I was paying before.
This is actually quite scary. As a pedestrian in downtown Detroit, I was hit by a distracted driver traveling at 50 mph. I'm lucky to be alive, mostly because I was able to cave in her windshield and be ricocheted straight up, like in a pinball machine. I remember people walking up and saying, Oh my God, he's dead for sure. Oh my God, I can't watch. I can't imagine if her van weighed twice or three times the mass when it hit me. There's no way I would be typing this message. The weight of these vehicles, combined with the much higher torque and acceleration, is a gigantic threat to our Society of pampered and totally distracted drivers. Car accidents hurt like hell and a lot of times people die. This should be a bigger topic.
How the heck did you survive getting hit at 50mph?? Must have been a miracle lucky to survive that one
@@1--y yes actually extremely lucky. I'm walking and talking because I was elevated on a bicycle and a lot of energy was spent caving in the windshield which shot me straight up like a pinball machine. When I came back down it was on the front of the hood/bumper and was nearly run over a second time! Broken foot and scapula, 78 stitches. Hospital staffs are really amazing people
Should be a bigger topic, but as our history proves, won't be unless and until either too many people are killed OR the wrong (politically important) people are killed! This is a rotten byproduct of our profit driven industrial society...
Did you look both ways before crossing on your bicycle?
Not only are car accidents painful, they are expensive as F for the people without health insurance. I'd rather be dead that face an admin at my hospital bed angrily yelling at me, "Sign the GD Indentured Service paper, B!" Meanwhile, I'm holding up double-barrelled birds (ring and middle fingers up) at her. America is a very dangerous country now. This is conspiring to put the population back into indentured servitude.
Thanks for giving such a serious talk about these complex and unexpected safety issues. I love your usual zany videos, but this one about the future and saving lives is also well appreciated. Like with all your videos, I’ve learned a lot of very useful interesting information.
I wonder how the roads will hold up with all that extra weight. If heavier vehicles are harder to stop suddenly, I suspect there will be a lot more rear-end collisions since most people don't leave enough space between cars when they drive.
Check your tires...alot.
It seems to me that the safer they make things, the more dangerous things get idk
I’ve always said if you want to make people safer drivers then attach a railroad spike to the steering wheel. The thought of being impaled alone will get people to drive safer.
Lol 🫣
Like airliners. They are far far safer than they were in the past.
That just makes any given crash that much more of a news item.
@@JLCmike4014 Your Genius is showing
@@ThillerKillerX, i know that. You want people to be safer drivers?, then make the cars more dangerous.
There is no way I will ever be comfortable with any level if automatic pilot. Even cruise control makes me nervous.
Have your ever been in a passenger ship? or airplanes? They are 95% auto pilot. Departure and arrival are just human operation.
That's OK. Just because the feature is there doesn't mean you have to use it.
@@dadimamibebebibi-blog Not the same as being in road traffic. Plus airplanes have air traffic control too with live people.
@@cgeorge6786 And pilots are high class professionals held to rigorous standards, as are the controllers. There are also about 50,000 flights a day across the whole US. There are probably more than 50,000 car trips taken a day just in a relatively small town (to school, to work, the store, and back, etc.)
Saw a sign on the back of the car stopped at the lights in front of me.. "IF YOU'RE DRIVING AN EV, PLEASE DON'T STOP TOO CLOSE. those things catch fire"
Thank you Scotty for bringing this important information to your channel.
I think all motorists should understand the risks they assume when they get on the road.
But without clear understanding of how the driving landscape is evolving with new technologies, it's difficult to make an accurate risk assessment.
Thanks again for the straightforward insight average drivers should have!
I am highly impressed by the amount and quality content you and team produce. Keep it up and thank you!
I agree 👍
No
I don't think he has a team. I think Scotty is his team.
There is no team. Only Scotty.
@@mylessimmons6970 I think he gets his animations done by someone else, he mentioned that in a previous video
I'd be very worried about the battery of an electric car in a collision. They combust easier, they are notoriously difficult to fight with water, and they give off very toxic smoke.
So much for being environmentally friendly
@@ls4965 it’s never been about the environment. You posed on X a mean comment about Israel today? Oh well, I guess your EV won’t turn on for a week. Good luck getting food or going to work. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 1984😮
EVs are not about "saving the planet." They are about limiting your ability to travel. Think about it.
💯💯💯a car that chosen your destination and where you are allowed to go FOR you. City limits only. Country is restricted Government property.
Well according to road statistics, EV’s are 5 times less likely to catch fire in a collision, and 20-60 times less likely to catch fire spontaneously…
Another great and informative video Scotty! It is great that you cover all the bases!
Thank you for keeping us informed.....appreciate your work, sir!
Scotty, I’ve heard you say, on several videos, that manually driven cars should not be mixed with autonomous vehicles. I think you hit it on the head there. Put the autonomous vehicles in their own lanes somewhat similar to HOV lanes. I was a programmer for over 30 years and will never trust my life to a program. I know how programmers think and I know how programs are tested. If the steering wheel and brake pedal are removed what are the occupants to do when “Please wait, updating” pops up on the screen? Or “Abort,Retry, Fail”? Game over.
Exactly, I’m a programmer and I know it’s absurd to have some code making life or death decisions that can’t be reversed. Especially since programming is often outsourced.
Why would they remove those things from the cars though? I haven’t heard any talk of that
Fully autonomous vehicles will cause an exponential increase in road rage. AI has limitations which can never be eliminated. When cars are equipped with artificial stupidity then they might be able to anticipate the boneheaded things they humans do behind the wheel...
@@streetracer2321 737 MAX?
@@shoersa and it wasn’t due to a software issue; one of the ‘alpha vanes’ physically malfunctioned, and there were only 2 vanes installed total so the computer can’t know which of the 2 is correct. Now they install 3 on all planes.
I hauled 4 locomotive batteries in my pickup to the scrap yard. It took a cherry picker and forklift to move them. All together was 950lbs of weight. These battery packs being 3,000 pounds is mind blowing
The hummer EV is a poorly designed EV. Everything about it is heavy and inefficient.. but that’s why he choose it to reference. For example a 2022 BMW X6 weighs 5,375lbs, a 2022 Tesla Y Performance weighs 4,416lbs…. So it’s not even close to being heavier. They are both 5 seat performance crossover SUVs that are comparable in size and wheel base.
Scotty’s Matrix doesn’t weigh 3,000lb does it?
FYI that's a $120,000 Supertruck. Very few of them will exist, It's a Luxury Product. Way more stupid luxury products exist.
@@flouisbailey An equivalent BEV to a Toyota Matrix would weigh about 3,500lbs. Not exactly light but would have no functional and safety difference in weight.
A Tesla model 3 weighs 3,648lbs. About 1/3 of that is battery. Ford F-150 Gasoline powered trucks weights 4,021 to 5,740 lbs. An electric F-150 weights 6,015 lbs It's great to be concerned about heavy EVs, but were you/are you concerned about heavy ICE vehicles?
Scotty, your presentations are very impressive. The information and the arrangement is like listening to a written thesis.
I can drive my car myself, thank you.
Exactly. Thank you.
The thing is, EVs brings the horsepower/acceleration only premium/sport models used to have to the mainstream.
That's a huge problem as now not only the lunatics with german cars are going to be endangering us with excessive speeds but also your local grandmas/grandpas and moms who have no reflexes and/or skills to handle such cars.
That by itself is going to increase the incidents alot...
Agree point you forgot the young fools that somehow get their hands on these vehicles
In the UK the public like to copy American trends. The big pickup and SUV. They don't really know the UK's roads are still the same size as horse and cart times. Not a good combination.
Except statistically EV drivers have fewer accidents than combustion engine drivers at this point. This is in part due to safety features built in and in part due to drivers EVs generally ate more careful with a more expensive vehicle.
Keep in mind not all EVs will accelerate like a tesla. Mass adoption will yield many slower evs in the name of efficiency
I wouldn't worry too much. Eventually there will be so many EVs on the road the electrical infrastructure won't be able to handle charging them. So a lot of EVs will end up sitting.
I never understood why the slowest evs are faster than most Middle class sports cars of the past 30 years. I figured if you're going for efficiency, why does every model run at most 13.7s in the 1/4 mile, but only have a range of maybe 300 on most? Make a lighter car that doesn't crank so much torque and it will easily go 400 miles.
Scotty is the only person in 2022 that seems concerned about the road toll, Great job Scotty, this stuff needs to be talked about before the road toal sky rockets.
Scotty is wrong in that lighter vehicles are safer in a collision. The reverse is true. However, EVs have their own peculiar safety concerns and he does well to highlight this.
Trouble is, it is going the other way.
@@malcolmabram2957 I think his bigger implication is that EV's are more dangerous in a collision than a comparable sized ICE model. The higher kinetic energy at impact increases injury and vehicle damage severity.
@@malcolmabram2957 How are light vehicles safer?
@@latetotheparty184 Because they crumple better in a collision (as long as it is a design feature). F1 cars are an epitomal example.
Your content is amazing! Keep up the great work!
When you see that black burned up spot on the ground where an EV burned up..... that is your "Carbon Footprint".
I'm in Britain, a fireman I know who specialises in lithium fires says that you should NEVER keep your electric car in a garage that is part of your house.
And not to drive an EV car if you can avoid; instead get on your Pushbike or walk or catch a bus ROLEX4PEARLS
@@chavale2that would be nice, you know if we had WALKABLE CITIES
I guess leave your phone outside to! 😂
For safety.
@@dakota4766 Phones aren't shaken appart by being on the road. Not to mention batteries are much smaller then EV batteries and EVs have about 7000 of them hooked up. Only one need to fail for the fire cascade to begin.
@@cyruslupercal9493 quick google search would show you that ev fires happen much less often in comparison to gas car fires per mile driven…
A Tesla hit me from behind I was going 70 and it must have been doing 150 .. I was in a Ford truck and it totaled the truck.. thank God he took care of me and I wasn't hurt ..
Yeah, gotta presume nowadays the car behind you approaching at high speeds might not even be driving it; do you match their speed (if nobody ahead) or presume someone is driving the vehicle & will slow down as they approach you?
150 mph? Are you serious?
A friend got rear eneded by a Tesla and it rolled his bed up and totalled his 2000s F150
@@elizabethcox555 the hood of that Tesla was flat back about half way up his hood .. it was a major accident on the highway .. both 100k vehicles totaled ..
Interesting and well thought out video as always! This is a point i don’t think many are thinking about.
You didn’t even mention the fact that a serious crash involving an EV is likely to rupture the battery pack resulting in an intense fire. A gasoline fire burns at around 600 degrees F, while a lithium battery fire burns at over 3209 degrees F. You can shut off the oxygen to a gasoline fire and put it out. A lithium battery fire produces its own oxygen making it nearly impossible to put out. The fire spreads so rapidly and intensely that you may not have time to escape. Then there’s the toxic fumes and the fact that anything near it burns too.
In the UK it's illegal to text when driving with heavy penalties, and you are not allowed to hold your phone at anytime it must be in a mount. One of my issues with EV's is their touch screen controls when I had a drive in one I found I had to look at the screen to adjust or switch things on/off. In an old school car you can operate everything by feel you know where to reach for a switch and know by it's position or by it's clicks what it's set to without taking your eyes off the road
A car with solely touchscreen controls would surely have voice activation too I would imagine or it would never be allowed on the road, all EVs I've been in have a touchscreen for navigation and music player but real buttons for all of the cars functions.
i totally agree! my first (last) car was the Toyota Prius 2007, one of the first car that came with a small touch screen. but it was mostly for displaying information and GPS. The radio tuner, volume, selector, CD selection, AC were still all physical buttons and dials. i could adjust most functions by muscle memory and keep eyes on the road. my current car has very limited control on the steering wheel and doesn't even have FM tuner besides preset frequencies nor have AC air flow control. i have to select it on the touchscreen. it is drives me mad.
Excellent point
Wow, I had no idea that there was such a weight difference! Think of how hard the vehicle has to work.
I'm so against the lithium battery push for homes and cars because...
NO ONE HAS EVER ADDRESSED THE WASTE ISSUE!
Obviously, to make the TRANSITION to ELECTRIC delayed due to less supply & higher prices up due to unnecessary demand increase. SLA (sealed lead-acid) batteries would have been sufficient for portable power tools.
Indeed, I have read that the design of car batteries makes them uneconomical to recycle. Maybe that will change if the cost of the minerals in them goes up high enough, although the recycling problems are due to more design issues than just the mineral composition. No recycling of solar PV or wind turbines either. The whole renewables industry has a huge waste problem. If recycling is forced on them, it will raise the cost and reduce the Energy Returned on Energy Invested ratio.
Translation: The government never cared about the environment (climate change or global warming). They just scare you into voting so you don't know it's rigged and there's something more sinister going on.
You're welcome 👍
@@michaels4255 sad. The whole renewables industry is a sham. If people really cared about saving the environment. We would be pushing for nuclear power in developed countries.
Ummmmm Redwood.....
Thanks for all that you do Scotty!
Professional Firefighter Medic in the Bay Area. We are east of San Francisco and our community has EV’s everywhere. I have seen with my own eyes people trapped in these vehicles and burned alive. Not to mention malfunctions that have occurred where the driver has lost control. THESE VEHICLES ARE NOT SAFE. I use to own a Chevy Volt to commute. Got rid of it and got myself a Jeep 392 (thanks Scotty)! lol
Please be safe out there guys, these vehicles are a real threat to the community
What's just as scary are the cars that suddenly lose power and lock you in the vehicle. Sudden combustion seems to happen a lot and they say salt on the battery cause combustion, cold countries salt they roads in winter.
Everything in the EVs except the actual wheels is driven by a standard 12-volt battery. Nobody is going to start building headlights and electric windows that run on 400V instead of just putting a 12V battery in the car.
How does the electric car lock the passengers inside upon failure?
The battery pack is sealed against outside contamination. How does salt enter inside the battery pack?
Electric cars don't function well in cold climates so you won't see them there.
@@MrJohnnyDistortion there are videos of this . And there are video of cars only a few days after being bought that have lost power with the doors not opening.
@@MrJohnnyDistortion Get real. They are all the rage here in Iceland
@@reneegudjon3204
And what do you mean by that?
I worked manufacturing lithium 3V batteries.
Fire was a major issue. When those batteries cooked off, they looked like little Roman candles going down the assembly like.
Lithium batteries are extremely dangerous.
FYI an EV could easily be a IED.
EVs are overrated, over hyped, overpriced, n overweight rolling microwave oven coffins.
What I find more disturbing is the fires.
If the battery catches on fire, there are ways to put it out. But a fire department might not know them.
I have heard several stories about spraying the car with water for hours. And even one story where the fire department fully submerged the car to put the fire out.
I don't know if these are true, but water and lithium do not mix well.
Nobody is set up to submerge the cars in icy salt water. The salt water (highly conductive) would discharge the batteries and the icy water would cool and stop the reaction. Other than pushing cars into the bay in Canada, Norway / Finland or whatever, where are you going to get salt water in quantity below zero centigrade? I know of nobody who keeps that on hand.
They now have a special "tarp" to cover a burning EV, it's very heavy, requires multiple people to put on, costs 5k+ each and it's a use once only. On top of that, the fire department needs to know about and actually have one. ..... Don't count on it.
Great vid, very informative. It will continue to save lives!!! Thanks for sharing!!!
As a European who lived and drove in the US I would recommend you first start upgrading your drivers test and do some road maintenance. The reduction of accidents will be a lot bigger then the possible increase in driving heavier electric vehicles
Then stop using oversized tanks as personal transport like escalades and the likes.
Better roads and harder tests. It is a good idea. But where can we get the money? I say we take the 3 billion we are about to pay to aid the defense in Europe, and instead use it to fix our roads & make harder tests. See I can be cheeky also!
I disapprove with the better tests. Until people can go to work without the need of a vehicle. We have abhorent public transportation.
@@cpace123 The US does not pay any European country defence aid. The US is part of NATO and that is it. The US defence butget for 2022 was $1640 billion. I think you right that some of that could be used for infrastructure.
With all this technology, I feel much less safe and secure
same here
That's the point, but no one sees it lol
Not to mention, at 6,000 + pounds you might be limited to truck routes. Many no trucking zones are capped at 3 tons
But I wonder how many car drivers considers the weight and roads when driving.
Great video Scotty 👍
Thanks for the valuable information
people thought the robots that would kill us look like the terminator, but they really just look like a Tesla LOL
Who needs robots to do the job when humans don't have a problem doing it?
the robots coming to factories and warehouses have no heads and you have to be trained to stay out of “their way”
Lol
Transformers
@@RZ-sh6yi I worked in a white metal die cast company that went to robots for the die cast machines. This poor older guy was blind in one eye and we were inspectors. We inspected the castings. This guy was inspecting castings from two small fast die cast machines. They sprayed the die after removing the casting then pivoted to drop it in a box.
Well he was looking at one and the other robot pivoted advanced the arm to drop the casting in the shop box. It punched him right in the side of the head. Put him right to his knees.
I remember one time an old 6 volt battery blew up in my face and I couldn't feel my head for about an hour I got over it but I can't imagine one of these 500 volt batteries blowing up
Thanks for a video that’s for us. Good job. Thanks again.
Lot's of information, fast! Great work!
Love your videos Scotty. You’re a gem on RUclips and one of the most informative automotive channels by far.
And he isnt bought either!
No
This is the best PSA I've ever seen. Perhaps NHTSA and the insurance companies should use it. This needs much broader exposure, for all our sakes.
When lithium battery packs became available *for motorcycles, the common advice was to rig some kind of fire-box/ emergency rip out drawer in case of lithium battery fire* (rare for traditional lead acid batteries but way more common for lithium...) I remember seeing pictures of toasted bikes (and rc stuff) due to a battery failure (such as a flawed cell shorting, or using a normal charger instead of a lithium compatible, or jump starting, or a crash).
*So what happens when an electric vehicle slams into a barrier, activating airbags, then goes up in a lithium inferno?* remember how Ford Pinto's got a reputation? But it will probably take a mother sob story to really wake people up to this.
Lithium battery packs have already been used in electric motorcycles for years...
LiFePo4 batteries behave much better and they do not explode or catch fire if perforated or mechanically abused..
People are complaining about fords with lifepo4 batteries saying its not enough range. They rather explode than to lose 50 miles.
Can you see a person trapped in a crashed EV being burned alive?? This borders on the criminal!!!
There are already mother sob stories, and the sheep respond by buying more of these scams on wheels.
Thanks Scotty for the update on the subject 👍
What happened to the good old days when PEOPLE drove their vehicle and paid attention to the road ahead. I won't have a vehicle that has automatic driving. You are supposed to pay attention to your driving, you are responsible for what happens on the road in your vehicle
I'm 60 years old and I still enjoy driving, I don't need a vehicle taking that pleasure away from me.
@@paulthorade6977 I am 73 and feel exactly as you! Driving for me is not just transportation from point A to point B. It is the total experience of being in control of where I am going and what I am doing! I am not giving THAT up!
You are aware that it's optional, right? In the same way that you can use cruise control, but don't have to.
So we put trust in a robot ...
Thank you for covering this. There's other problems with EV's I'd love to see discussed as well. Additional weight means more wear on tires as well as the roads themselves. The batteries catching on fire is a serious risk and can be worse than gas fires. Batteries die over time and you have to replace them at a huge cost, better to just get a whole new car at that point. Going for a trip? Can't just refuel quickly and get back on the road. Have to wait for it to charge. Not to mention, where does the electricity come from to power these things? Mostly from oil. You can find tons of images of charging stations connected to diesel generators.
That’s the point. Restricting our movement.
ICE vics catch on fire (not just total gross but percentage wise as well) far more often than EVs. This is fear mongering.
We all know or will soon it’s unicorn farts that produce the electricity for these millions of coming EVs.
@@travisashimself2356 Not just that your still just burning fossil fuel, but in the case of EV's it is indirectly to power your vehicle.
In another words: we are living in a world full of fools, they believe everything their government and the media is shoving in their brains.
Thank you for this information
Hi, thank you for taking the time and explain it.
Those "automatic emergency breaking systems" are WAY too dangerous..My 2020 Accord hit the breaks so hard ahead of time that I almost got rear ended by the car behind me! I turned that system COMPLETELY off after that.
Indeed, in traffic, the FLOW of elements is a very important element. Basically slow drivers and sudden breaks really are dangerous, they not only anger experienced drivers who then want to surpass crappy drivers but they can cause accidents because everyone else is FLOWING as usual, driving faster and smoother than these cranky old 80 year old drivers here in the UK.
Driving well past the speed limit surely is dangerous.
But so is driving OUT OF FLOW - slower than most, brake more suddenly than most, etc.
What? 2022 Hyundai Tuscon hybrid with variable cruise control, driven through areas with deer and I have no idea what you're talking about.
I had a similar experience with my 2016 Honda Civic EX with Honda sensing. I turned it off after that. I would rather trust my own driving then the technology.
Automatic braking makes maneuvers that require speed potentially dangerous, such as passing another vehicle or maneuvering through traffic. They are trying to kill us, er depopulate us.
When the phone rings I don’t answer & then pull off of the road, I’m not in that much of a hurry. Of course I’m old, I even have Bluetooth, I still pull over.
If y'all would learn how to use that little red triangle button called a hazard button, when there are *hazards* on the road such as a sudden slowing of traffic or a traffic collision, it really helps warn other drivers to slow down and be prepared to stop to avoid pile ups.
Or you could stop posting on farcsbook, tweeting, and jerking off so you can pay attention to the road.
Here in Sweden we have overhead light boards that illuminate with a red circle, a suggested speed and sometimes shifting orange lights to warn ever further in advance
here in Zimbabwe, our drivers are pretty bad so we basically abuse the use of hazards💀
@@li._.dub_- can relate (Zambian)...
Thank you for this information 🇺🇸
This my very first reach out. First I want to personally thank you for all your videos that you have shared.
It's good to know that you are not afraid to speak your thoughts and concerns. Our school system should
have a Scotty Hard Knox Class 101 in High School. Knowledge is a great tool when applied well at the best
of times. Over the years watching these info factomundos, has helped thousands of people, there should be
an award to give you for the do diligence of truthfulness and from the hipster attitude. Again THANKS.
In Hawaii, car registration fee’s currently are based on weight. Currently, a thousand dollar registration is common for big trucks. Imagine what a heavy EV truck will cost?!!! The deadly accidents will rise exponentially from the already high rates. Thank you Scotty for the 411.
Florida also.
Big trucks have a weight limit because of how they stress the roads and infrastructure. An EV truck at that limit will weigh no more than an ICE truck at the same limit.
@@glennmartin6492
You are correct, though there are two upshots from that
1) Those EV tractor-trailers will be hauling *substantially* less per trip than a conventional ICE semi
2) Heavy crossover SUVs and compensatory pickup trucks, in tandem with increased tractor-trailer traffic, have/has already put a massive strain on the highway system; making those SUVs heavier and requiring the tractor-trailers to take more trips will only worsen the issue
@@coupledyetivonvanderburg5385 You are incorrect. The battery weight is just a little more than the weight of the typical truck engine, the engine itself though weighs next to nothing in comparison. And trucks have been given a bigger upper limit since the weight distribution is better and thus the wear on the roads will not increase.
This is why I also like manual cars, since people who chose to try stick are more likely to focus on driving than distractions because they have to.
I love the stick shift! Perfect control, can pop the clutch to start it if necessary, coast or downshift without constant braking … In my region, you ask for a stick shift model, and they look like at you like you’re insane. Don’t care, I’ll always love the stick! ❤
@@misskim2058 can't forget to mention with our current troglodyte society, not only is standard cheaper then an auto transmission car, it's also free theft prevention for your ride.
Wow! Mr Kilmer....Ur facts are eye opening & astounding! I really enjoy ur channel & I believe you are helping a lot of people with this valuable information! Thank you & may the Good Lord continue to bless you. Happy New Year as well!
Thanks for sharing this useful information.
Electric car + salt water= FIRE
I love taking my lifted Jeep on the beach and through some water! Can't do that with an EV! Honestly EVs are for the boring type of human that just wants to stay in the city and go shopping lol
@@kafilkavich707 Right? It's crazy how you can't drive an EV in rain or take it through a car wash 🤣
@@kafilkavich707 You are close to being spot on. There is a automotive expert named Lauren Fix, she said it is all about control. They want everyone to move closer to the cities. You wonder how much money it will take to charge up your vehicle at one of those future charging stations. News articles on this subject.....
The European Commission will soon decide whether to classify lithium as a toxic chemical - causing a freak-out among battery and raw material producers who argue that doing so will derail the bloc's transition to green energy. The European Chemicals Agency’s Risk Assessment Committee wants three lithium salts to be classified as “known human reproductive toxicants.” It argues they can damage fertility or fetuses, and could harm breast-fed children.
Where will you charge your ev on the beach? Or did Elon install those there too
@@BoleDaPole So the gas station by my house finally installed an EV charger! But theirs only one lol When I went someone was on it and some other guy was waiting, like what a joke, I hate EVs! On top of that I would NEVER drive and EV on the beach!
Thanks for posting
Good report Scotty, brings home the problems that are not considered by owners of VERY HEAVY EV's .........BUT, this is not likely to be the same here in the UK where our electricity is at least TWICE the price of that in the USA & where you can drive around for hours on very potholed congested roads trying to find a working connection........
Scotty, since EVs are so heavy, does this mean our hiways will see more damage and/or shortened life?
Yes it does ! And why I believe motorcycles should pay less they don't wear the roads at all.
Your average EV is no heavier than a pickup or SUV, it's the massive trucks that are destroying the roads not EVs
@@Slash1066 You didn't hear a goddamn thing Scotty said about EV weight did you?
@@oldgoat142 I can't bear to listen to him unfortunately
@@Slash1066 Okay. Fair enough.
Thanks Scotty, your information will save my life.
Well done Scott thank you for this
Scotty is like the master splinter of mechanics we love you teacher Scotty!❤✌👍
I was almost in a crash when I rented a vehicle with "lane assist". I had been visiting my parents, and was driving to the airport to return the car, so I was not at all familiar with the system. A semi truck began floating into my lane, so I decided to use the shoulder to not get hit. The car would not allow it, so the truck just kept getting closer and closer as I watched helplessly. I laid on my horn to get his attention, and he finally pulled back into his own lane. I thank the LORD that he heard the horn or noticed his location just in time to avoid the crash. No more "lane assist" for me!
I had lane assist in a rental in Iceland. It was a Godsend; the lanes are narrow in many places. Although it would resist me drifting, I could very easily force it. I learnt to use the indicators though, so it wouldn't resist at all :)
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I can understand feeling this way, but Lane Assist has legitimately saved my life a few times. Yes it’s annoying when you need to fight the wheel to get out of lane keep, but like learning to drive a car in general, you adapt. After a few days of using lane keep you learn how to use it, and how to override it on a moments notice.
To help anyone out in the future the most common way to disable these safety features on a lot of modern cars it to hold the traction control button down until it indicates on the dash 👍🏽
Exactly right I don't want any type of external controller over my own vehicle.
Excellent information...
I do work for a towing company and they straight up refuse to tow a damaged EV
They don't have a facility to store it safely and if it goes up in the lot it could damage a dozen customers cars as it burns.
Meanwhile their insurance hasn't been clear on whether or not they'll cover that
The batteries catching on fire when charging or in an accident should be at the top of the list along with battery life and how much it is to replace the battery when it becomes necessary.
Not really as ICE vehicles catch on fire more per 100k miles than BEV vehicles do. The only thing to be concerned about in lithium ion battery fires is how difficult it is to extinguish the fire.
Scotty, in Europe the emergency response are gearing up with big equipment like containers for burning EVs. We've seen EV busses burst in huge fires, where whole cities end up with air sirens and lockdown. What is your take on how this massive oversight and lack of regulation in these highly dangerous batteries gonna impact crashes and safety? What will a highway pileup end up looking like in the future, with just a couple of EVs getting batteries punctured creating massive toxic fires?
Biblical FIRE 🔥 prophecy being played out is what I see.
Are people this dolt that they would create their own demise while pretending to care about the environment..?
These vehicles are NOT environmentally friendly or sustainable...
They're 'no need for cremation services' death ☠ traps.
Gotta get the population down any way they can, the great reset is real and the more people opening their eyes to reality the better.
@@duncanmacleod7287 just launch a few nukes then, mutual destruction will cause a few billion people to die
This is very informative. As a frequent long distance driver this got my full attention
Scottie you must start your own school you are so interesting to listen to you have taught me so much I tell so many people of your channel and once they watch they can't stop thanks for all your dedication much love from South Africa
Side airbags literally saved my life after I hydroplaned off the road. Or at the very least saved my head for a serious hit. Slid off the road and spun around until I hit a utility pole on the left side of the car. Whole left side of my body slammed into the side of the car at about 40mph. If that airbag wasn't there I would've hit hard glass or the hard plastic frame. Thank God for the airbag. If only there was one for my precious dog in the car.
Slow down during rain. You killed your own dog. You should feel bad it's your fault.
you don’t seem sad about ur dog lolol but yes thank God.
Were you wearing seatbelt?
Drive according to conditions. Know your tire tread condition. Your actions have consequences
So sorry for the loss of your puppers thank God you was spared ❤🙏
Swear people in America now lives their lives by the motto "It's fine"!
It's always it's fine, it's fine, then all of a sudden it's not fine when something bad happens. No prevention whatsoever then all of a sudden they act like there was no way that said problem could have been avoided.
Yes, I hate it. To be quite blunt, what is the primary difference between Americans and Europeans? Hint, a surgery done on the genitals at birth. "It's fine, life is good." This form of preverbal trauma, among other things, splits the core self and primes for dissociative behavior and passive aggression in adulthood.
I it is a mentality of the usually but not always the younger generations. Although men seem to do it a lot too. Every time I bring up a problem of some sort to my kids or husband, they seem to say it's fine. Coming in second is the I know, but they really do not or choose to ignore it. But then, I tend to lean on safeties side as opposed to risking mine or others lives.
Sounds like Australia in years gone bye. Not fine anymore
Youre doing great work for the good of regular people.
Thank you for sharing
Great video Scotty.
Agree about the weight of EV's.
Which as more get on the road. I can see the road tax being based on vehicle weight, like the big rigs.
Also another problem about EV wrecks are the potential of being electrocuted from inside and outside the vehicle.
First responders will have to approach a EV wreck differently from a gas vehicle.
You are probably right, it will take new training for first responders to approach and enter an EV accident.
I mean gas burners have the probability of fire or explosion but yeah I own gas burner
@@sdcoinshooterOH Yeah, and while they try to figure out how to get inside OL' SPARKY, your inside bleeding to death. Yep EV's, what a great idea along with new ways to thin the heard. l know l can't wait, and if l told you wolverines make great house pets would you believe me? lol.
@@superchicken5285 “Your?” You should have stayed in school and graduated from the sixth grade.
@@sdcoinshooter l caint hep l waz stuck in the 2nd grade all them years. KMA!
Never discussed is that as more and more automatic features are introduced the skills of drivers in general decrease. Their attention to the processes of safe driving evaporate as they will begin each day by asking their car to simply take them to the nearest Starbucks drive-thru, perhaps even after first entering their Starbucks order in the app.
We call it a process of being zombified.
Yeah, instead we should require them to pass an autocross and icy skid pad test. Oop, sorry you hit a cone and didn't stop in time. Better practice a little more before we put you in a 4-6k ton hunk of metal and plastic.
Nice to see there are still some people not afraid to speak the truth
Very informative
EVs are becoming quite common in my town. The thing I've been noticing most is the number of near misses with pedestrians not hearing a near silent car near them - especially with most folks getting around with earbuds in their ears. There needs to be *some* kind of audible alert to indicate a silent electric vehicle is moving even if sounds like the Jetson's spaceship.
It’s called a pws pedestrian warning system all new EVs have them
@@lazerusmfh The new ones? That's great. The old ones however are still a problem.
Walk in the road without looking.. maybe that person should be food.
@@FirstNameLastName-okayyoutube I'm also talking about car parks where people tend to throw all the rules out the window.
@@dewmontain123 You're absolutely right. Hopefully you won't be the one to run over a three year old who was being irresponsible.
Good evening, Scotty! Love all the info you provide. Just bought a Honda based on info from your videos
evening and good choice, thanks!