This was all explained in the movie. Venom is part of a multi dimensional symbiote "hive mind" THAT SHARES knowledge of every other symbiote INCLUDEING VARRIENTS from every other dimension. So there's a dimension where Peter Parker and venom hooked up, and he remembered. it was doctor stranger spell that was pulling everybody into the MCU who knew that Peter parker was spiderman
The stupidity of this is venom became venom because of Spiderman. His powers mimic Spiderman.... a spider hunting spider. It's why i don't really like the movies. Especially venom/carnage. I owned all the venom stand-alone comics from the 90s. The internal struggle of eddie brock and the symbiote, to turn a new leaf and become a hero, is what makes it great. The movies take away his spider like powers, the internal struggle, the violent deranged complexity of carnage and barely gleam the dramatic aspect.... all to make your run of the mill mcu movie. Replace the story with overblown CGI fight scenes. Sucks! At least the first one had some cool qualitys. It doesn't have to be rated R to do it right. The dark knight is the perfect example on how to make the greatest villian with depth and choas, without gore. It's what u don't see that scares us.
Nope. Based on Loki and recent movies, Disney recently wants the MCU to exist as its own unique multiverse distinct from the comic book multiverse. The comics or Sony might have an MCU-equivalent universe they refer to, but it’s not canon to the movies unless Disney explicitly says so.
@@tuvout6844 616 is peter b. parker's universe and not tom holland's. it was confirmed that peter indeed is from 616, but the mcu is actually earth 199999. Mysterio says it's 616, but he actually made it up/foreshadowed, to gain control of EDITH
@@kalvin187douglas That's fine, we all miss things, or don't quite understand things, but that's not a theory; that's just what is stated by the movie. Again, some people might have missed it, and that is understandable, but that's not what I was responding about.
This is fairly in line with the recent Venom "Genetic Codex" storylines. The Venom symbiote is something exceptionally special in that it not only retains the genetic memory of any creature that hosts it, but it also retains the same memories other symbiotes have gained. So, it doesn't need to bond with a dragon if another Klyntar has ever bonded with one. This also breaches actual memory. Eddie is able to tap into the memories of anyone who was bonded to another symbiote. The movie Venom is nerfed as THAT Venom could just eat MCU Thanos & the Infinity Gauntlett & all the stones & it would only be like he drank a Red Bull. They ate a God that eats Gods FFS!
@@SrChalice ...dont know about that, for me movies are pretty good. They made it something like LOTR, if they put everyhing and litteral from comics/books into the movie it would last forever and maybe it woudnt be good.
@@norischuk it would be good, it would be better. theres a reason the comics are well known and well liked and were consistently successful. the writers made something great. to go and try to change something great is only going to make something worse. because the first writer already figured out the best plot.
I think Disney is trying to pull towards the adults. So they merging, because they have ideas for kids and they know they need to keep both in line. So having Deadpool (totally not for kids) Blade, Venom, Wolverine and possibly Punisher and Daredevil. They created a section for adults only. Which is why you need a passcode to view it. Without it, I think you can only watch the Marvel Disney stuff and not the other movies.
Venom didn't neccesarily got that information from Raimi's Venom, propably from some other Venom across the multiverse who knew Peter Parker is Spiderman. Ngl, the symbiotes having hive knowledge from their alternate selves across the multiverse is very cool, it's like how in the multiverse of madness, every different variants dream of their alternate selves.
@@terique69 weirdly, if you figure that the symbiote is a quantum computer that is 80billion light year area if they were all combined in 1 universe, the hive plans for every eventuality.
it's really because the very first symbiote, called Knull, is an interdimensional being that kills Celestials, and since he's interdimensional, it means that since he is the "root" of the hivemind, he knows what every other symbiote knows, and vice versa
The MCU and Sony are obviously teaming up and planning something big. Since Venom is technically a anti hero… my thoughts are they are setting up SpiderMan and Venom taking on Morbius/ Vulture/ and Kraven??
@@BLEACH500 ….Venom already defeated and ate Carnage in Venom 2. But between Vulture, Morbius, Kraven, and even now Madam Webb. They’re definitely planning something
Venom in his movies:showing his funny personalities, huge, strong, able to take down Carnage and Riot, cares about Eddie's friends Venom in spiderman 3: literally screams that's all
@@bruno1 I did instead and I am even more convinced it was the lamest way to introduce Venom in the MCU and everybody knows that most likely Spiderman will get his back costume during Secret Wars (exactly as in the comics)! 😀
@@cam8900 simply, don't implement it and, I have already provided an answer for that. If you're not able to read it, I don't knwo what's wrong with you! 🤣
@@cam8900 as I said, they will introduce the black costume in Secret Wars (as in the comics, if you ever had read one in your life). Actually, Russo brothers wanted to use it in Infinity War, but Sony had different plans, that is, those awful Venom movies! 😀
It's annoying that they used this number in the movies. The comics are universe 616. Then they confused things by having Mysterio guess on a title and called the cinematic universe the same number as an Easter egg. Then another movie said it actually was that universe. Heck of a coincidence for Mysterio to guess that. The movies and comic ate obviously not the same universe so its really annoying.
The old Chinese lady is in the new spider man! A bad guy shows up and he’s isn’t at all surprised he is actually surprised at how not surprised she is. He says get stuff like this a lot huh!
If Venom 3 is the last movie, then perhaps the next live action incarnation of Venom should be Flash Thompson Agent Venom, I'm comfortable with that now that the Eddie Brock version has had his fare share of screen time.
This still doesn’t explain how venom knew of other symbiotes from the multiverse unless every universe within the multiverse all exist in one plane and are separated by barriers which if removed would cause an incursion.
so many arguments about the way venom could cross multiverses, yet with the comics reinventing origin stories all the time, as well as alternate storylines that meant a lot of the other characters were well known in each of them but completely different roles., the thing is, deadpool's 4th wall breaking might all literally be because of Deadpools interraction with a symbiote at some point, and with deadpools weirdness that knowledge all leaked backwards to the point of Deadpools X Factor activating,
Yeah, but he doesn't know that spider-man, does he? Wouldn't that matter or no? To Venom, it wouldn't matter which spider-man it is they are all strong in their own way.
What i thought was when in no way home when doctor Strange did his magic to make everybody forget about Peter the fist time is when peter let all his enemies close or dar but close like electro man so same thing with venom
That would explain why they see TH's Peter as a villain because that's not the spidey they know, it must be an imposter (and considering Carnage's rampage being blamed on Venom they would have taken that seriously)
@@thegreenbacon514 they wanted MCU to be different to the comics. Instead of adapting the 616, they went for 19999999. Meaning, they could do a mashup of cartoons, Comics and MCU if they wanted to.
This was all explained in the movie. Venom is part of a multi dimensional symbiote "hive mind" THAT SHARES knowledge of every other symbiote INCLUDEING VARRIENTS from every other dimension. So there's a dimension where Peter Parker and venom hooked up, and he remembered. it was doctor stranger spell that was pulling everybody into the MCU who knew that Peter parker was spiderman
does that mean every venom is every universe goes to the MCU?
@@detectivejoe1730if dr strange hadn’t sealed the spell, yes potentially
Holy shi that blew my mind I didn’t think of it like that, I appreciate the explanation bro
The stupidity of this is venom became venom because of Spiderman. His powers mimic Spiderman.... a spider hunting spider. It's why i don't really like the movies. Especially venom/carnage. I owned all the venom stand-alone comics from the 90s. The internal struggle of eddie brock and the symbiote, to turn a new leaf and become a hero, is what makes it great. The movies take away his spider like powers, the internal struggle, the violent deranged complexity of carnage and barely gleam the dramatic aspect.... all to make your run of the mill mcu movie. Replace the story with overblown CGI fight scenes. Sucks! At least the first one had some cool qualitys. It doesn't have to be rated R to do it right. The dark knight is the perfect example on how to make the greatest villian with depth and choas, without gore. It's what u don't see that scares us.
@@detectivejoe1730no, it just means every venom is every universe KNOWS about the MCU through that venoms eyes
it's actually Earth 199999. they say it in the comics and it's even mentioned in across the spiderverse
199999*
199999*
bro just copied my text
@@LunarQamary no I typed it.
Nope. Based on Loki and recent movies, Disney recently wants the MCU to exist as its own unique multiverse distinct from the comic book multiverse. The comics or Sony might have an MCU-equivalent universe they refer to, but it’s not canon to the movies unless Disney explicitly says so.
I just realized that the bartender was Cristobal Fernandez, who played 'Dani Rojas' in Ted Lasso.
Me too
FOOTBALL IS LIFE
yea, just saw that too
Ted Lasso in the MCU confirmed
dani dani rojas
You forgot to mention at the bar he left a piece of himself
Let's leave it for another video
That's not even related to the question asked in this short.
it’s the same thing … just mcu wanted to use 616 as it’s name
It was a tip.
That piece would eventually try to find Eddie of that Earth's version. Makes perfect sense, don't you think
oh that DOCTOR STRANGE AND THAT LITTLE NERD ON 19999999
Too bad MCU already established that their universe is 616
@@tuvout6844 616 is peter b. parker's universe and not tom holland's. it was confirmed that peter indeed is from 616, but the mcu is actually earth 199999. Mysterio says it's 616, but he actually made it up/foreshadowed, to gain control of EDITH
@@whosaidyouwereincontrol_aonooOh how good that the Loki series exists
@@tuvout6844since when..? Everyone knows its earth 199999
@@elderscrollslad3062 Just saw Loki season 2. It's still referred to as 616.
Debate is over
That's not just any bartender. That's Dani Riojas!
Football is life
i thought tha was him 🤣
Bro being a great Theorist
I mean it was stated by the movies.
its not a theory bozo
@@boalpear53 Exactly, that's just what happened, as stated by the movies.
@@Shadowgod1000I was still lost how they got pulled in the MCU at first though
@@kalvin187douglas That's fine, we all miss things, or don't quite understand things, but that's not a theory; that's just what is stated by the movie. Again, some people might have missed it, and that is understandable, but that's not what I was responding about.
This is fairly in line with the recent Venom "Genetic Codex" storylines. The Venom symbiote is something exceptionally special in that it not only retains the genetic memory of any creature that hosts it, but it also retains the same memories other symbiotes have gained. So, it doesn't need to bond with a dragon if another Klyntar has ever bonded with one. This also breaches actual memory. Eddie is able to tap into the memories of anyone who was bonded to another symbiote. The movie Venom is nerfed as THAT Venom could just eat MCU Thanos & the Infinity Gauntlett & all the stones & it would only be like he drank a Red Bull. They ate a God that eats Gods FFS!
Because the writers thought they were too cool to use the source material already available.
They never wanna use source that's why these movies suck so badly.
@@SrChalice Pretty much.
@@SrChalice ...dont know about that, for me movies are pretty good. They made it something like LOTR, if they put everyhing and litteral from comics/books into the movie it would last forever and maybe it woudnt be good.
@@albireotheredguard1599 yup
@@norischuk it would be good, it would be better. theres a reason the comics are well known and well liked and were consistently successful.
the writers made something great. to go and try to change something great is only going to make something worse. because the first writer already figured out the best plot.
Why does Venom licking Peter on the screen feels personal lmao 🤣 😂
Bloody ell, that bartender is Dani Rojas
Football is life 😂
bro just fixed the biggest plot hole of the movie
Marvel firstly: get him in the MCU!
Marvel in the next movie: Bad idea, bring him back!
I think Disney is trying to pull towards the adults. So they merging, because they have ideas for kids and they know they need to keep both in line. So having Deadpool (totally not for kids) Blade, Venom, Wolverine and possibly Punisher and Daredevil. They created a section for adults only. Which is why you need a passcode to view it. Without it, I think you can only watch the Marvel Disney stuff and not the other movies.
Well, Spiderman across the spiderverse explained this. That random spidey villians and characters randomly get teleported into different dimensions
Pov:all venom entered mcu at that moment
That because venom learns from his mistakes
what?
@@BigtimeAVERAGE we are venom
Not to mention Venom left a little present in the MCU 😉
Venom didn't neccesarily got that information from Raimi's Venom, propably from some other Venom across the multiverse who knew Peter Parker is Spiderman.
Ngl, the symbiotes having hive knowledge from their alternate selves across the multiverse is very cool, it's like how in the multiverse of madness, every different variants dream of their alternate selves.
which movie scene was that when venom licks Tom Holland spidey picture?
Spider man gave a pice of "Venom" to a doctor to analyze. When will they bring that pic into a movie?
He did leave a part of him in spider-man's universe he was in
honestly i want that bartender to be the new venom
Soccer is life!
That's no bar tender, That's the great Mexican football player Dani Rojas,football is life...
Finally, some logic of his that makes sense.
Thank you dude
I still can't believe Venom 2 brought him to the MCU only for Far From Home to send him back.
Bartender would be venoms future antagonist ☠️
Despite all that knowledge, Venom doesn't know light-years are a measure of distance, not time
In physics, moving in space is also moving in time and vice versa, he says it right its not a mistake. Space & time is connected.
@@terique69 weirdly, if you figure that the symbiote is a quantum computer that is 80billion light year area if they were all combined in 1 universe, the hive plans for every eventuality.
@@Gomorragh im not sure i quite get that!
@@Gomorraghhey he's speaking facts.
@@terique69Yep. Antigravity deals with beyond light speed, teleportation and time travel.
I think they just knew it the fans would love it if venom showed up in the movie abt blending different spider universes
I love how you broke this down. It helped.
Nowadays Marvel become more complex then my physics book........🙂
That would mean every symbiotic across the multiverse got transported to earth for a day
Wooh! Imagine
😊
They would have if Dr Strange didn't contain spell and all the villains, including the other Venoms would have entered.
Good explanation 👍👍👍
Does that mean every venom everywhere was pulled to that dimension
After seeing this I knew, I wish I was that tv
I love the monotone way u said “and made a bartender very angry”
Yes yes he did make the bartender angry
I really like venoms voice ❤️😁
it's really because the very first symbiote, called Knull, is an interdimensional being that kills Celestials, and since he's interdimensional, it means that since he is the "root" of the hivemind, he knows what every other symbiote knows, and vice versa
Oh shit I didn’t realise the bartender is DANI ROJAS! football is LIFEEEE
CMON GREYHOUNDS. OH WAIT.
Thank you for putting it in simple terms. It gets exciting acknowledging this theory 😱
And don't forget that venom has leave a piece of him when he left at the bartender
The venom hive mind is spread throughout the multiverse
The MCU and Sony are obviously teaming up and planning something big. Since Venom is technically a anti hero… my thoughts are they are setting up SpiderMan and Venom taking on Morbius/ Vulture/ and Kraven??
You forgot Carnage
@@BLEACH500 ….Venom already defeated and ate Carnage in Venom 2. But between Vulture, Morbius, Kraven, and even now Madam Webb. They’re definitely planning something
The bartender is from Ted Lasso haha
Dani Rojas as the bartender
I can’t believe how many people never got that right off the bat
Because Venom learns from his mistakes.
Venom actually bonded wit Spiderman B4 he bonded wit Eddie
By that logic every universes venom should have joined the party😂
And that was when the bartender decided Football is Life
thats usually what a hive is
Eddie Brock from Earth-96283 knew Peter Parker was Spider-Man.
Whoever thought up the spider verse is an absolute genious.
Venom was supposed to be in NWH more. The writers said he was going to be at Liberty Island and heal Tobey's stab wound.
Venom in his movies:showing his funny personalities, huge, strong, able to take down Carnage and Riot, cares about Eddie's friends
Venom in spiderman 3: literally screams that's all
I never noticed that Danny Rojas was moonlighting as a bartender
We are Venom 🖤
The most ridiculous example of lazy writing to link this Venom with the MCU Spiderman 🤣! Sony was really running out of ideas 🤣
@@bruno1 I did instead and I am even more convinced it was the lamest way to introduce Venom in the MCU and everybody knows that most likely Spiderman will get his back costume during Secret Wars (exactly as in the comics)! 😀
@@AlessioAlessi name a better way they could’ve implemented him.
@@cam8900 He cant hes just trolling
@@cam8900 simply, don't implement it and, I have already provided an answer for that. If you're not able to read it, I don't knwo what's wrong with you! 🤣
@@cam8900 as I said, they will introduce the black costume in Secret Wars (as in the comics, if you ever had read one in your life). Actually, Russo brothers wanted to use it in Infinity War, but Sony had different plans, that is, those awful Venom movies! 😀
The movie, it's all connected.
Venom my favorite hero
I just hope that eddie brock from earth 616 is also played by tom hardy
Futbol is life
does that mean every living venom got sucked into earth 616
that would be great
Chaos also
That would be an amazing movie just by itself
But the spell wasn't casted fully
It's annoying that they used this number in the movies.
The comics are universe 616. Then they confused things by having Mysterio guess on a title and called the cinematic universe the same number as an Easter egg.
Then another movie said it actually was that universe. Heck of a coincidence for Mysterio to guess that.
The movies and comic ate obviously not the same universe so its really annoying.
Because Venom learns from his mistakes✨
Dani Rojas was the bartender 💀💀💀
Football is life 😂
"Tiny little brain" 😂
Your tiny little brain
I love the way he says that.
The with this logic, every symbiote should have got pulled in the MCU
Woahh bruhh great point...🥵☠🔥❤💫👍
Very good coverage!
that's a weird answer to "are you hiding stuff from me?"
"yes, distance of hive mind knowledge."
80 billion light years = distance not time.
Wait then wouldn’t every single venom have been pulled into that universe
Lmao this guy literally makes up shi 🤣
Possibly but we only saw the perspective of the Venom that we already know
The old Chinese lady is in the new spider man! A bad guy shows up and he’s isn’t at all surprised he is actually surprised at how not surprised she is. He says get stuff like this a lot huh!
If Venom 3 is the last movie, then perhaps the next live action incarnation of Venom should be Flash Thompson Agent Venom, I'm comfortable with that now that the Eddie Brock version has had his fare share of screen time.
Venoms true intentions
This still doesn’t explain how venom knew of other symbiotes from the multiverse unless every universe within the multiverse all exist in one plane and are separated by barriers which if removed would cause an incursion.
It’s all one shared mind hence “hive” mind no matter where they are at in the multiverse they will share knowledge
What's sad is that I just watched the second movie yesterday and I never knew about this. 😭 Can't wait for part 3 ☺️
so many arguments about the way venom could cross multiverses, yet with the comics reinventing origin stories all the time, as well as alternate storylines that meant a lot of the other characters were well known in each of them but completely different roles., the thing is, deadpool's 4th wall breaking might all literally be because of Deadpools interraction with a symbiote at some point, and with deadpools weirdness that knowledge all leaked backwards to the point of Deadpools X Factor activating,
OMG I just realized that the bartender is Dany rouas from Ted lesson 🙉🙈 FOOTBALL IS LIFE 🎉🎉🎉🎉
eddie looks like randy ortan
Yeah, but he doesn't know that spider-man, does he? Wouldn't that matter or no? To Venom, it wouldn't matter which spider-man it is they are all strong in their own way.
Venom also gave the bartender a nice symbiote for himself
Between this and Black Adam, I'm so tired of teases that don't get delivered.
And !! He says … NO , not again
I assumed it was when he lived in New York and met Sony’s soiderman
That's not a bartender, that's afc richmond winger
Bro wants revenge
Bartender was like football is life
It all makes sense now
Nice❤
What i thought was when in no way home when doctor Strange did his magic to make everybody forget about Peter the fist time is when peter let all his enemies close or dar but close like electro man so same thing with venom
Lightyears are still not a unit of time but a distance lol😂
Football is life!
That would explain why they see TH's Peter as a villain because that's not the spidey they know, it must be an imposter (and considering Carnage's rampage being blamed on Venom they would have taken that seriously)
Dani Rojas!!! Nananana!
It’s not Earth 616 it’s Earth 1999
I love how multiple movies in the MCU literally say its 616
@@thegreenbacon514retcon is fun!
@@thegreenbacon514 they wanted MCU to be different to the comics. Instead of adapting the 616, they went for 19999999. Meaning, they could do a mashup of cartoons, Comics and MCU if they wanted to.
@@themanwhocantbemovedbyatru1988 it’s really both. Some people at marvel say it’s 616 and some say 1999
@@thegreenbacon514Thank you! It's both
Light years is a Measurement of how far light travels in a year
Venom is dumb💀
The bar tender is in ted lasso 😂
earth 616 is fortnite spiderman universe in the comics💀
GIMME KNULL
Just realized that bartender is Dani Rojas