Hello Guys from Doctor mix! What do you think about comparing Seventh heaven and real Bricasti M7 unit? A lot of people on gearslutz are saying that plugin is lacking that 3D feel, but no one compared them on a video yet , What do you think about it? Have a great day , keep doing amazing stuff!!! :)
This is what's behind the lacking 3D feel: the slightly moving random modulation from algorithmic reverbs, which convolution reverbs simply can't reproduce, even not with "Fusion IR". It becomes very obvious when you stretch the decay time on Seventh Heaven. The tail gets extended, but it doesn't sound very lively to me. After all, that random modulation is one of the aspects that made the lexicon sound or EMT 250 so famous back in the day. Anyway, I still think Seventh Heaven sounds very nice and natural, but to me there are several much more worthwhile reverbs out there: 2CAudio's Breeze2, Exponential Audio's R2 and R4, Valhalla room etc.
I have no experience with these two particular reverbs, but man, this demo sounds way way way worse than the real Bricasti demos out there, which is disappointing.
@@225maine Да блин хватит уже, есть люди которые реально слышат разницу, это случается когда с аналога переходишь на цифру, вот реально это частота вкуса, исчезает, у всех разный слух, так что спор бесмыслен
You can pick up a Melda ConvolutionMB for $55 and it has about 300 more controls on it. Load up the free Bricasti M7 impulses that are available on the web and you're gold.
From what I'm seeing, there are really not a lot of reviews of Melda ConvolutionMB - someone should review it because the sales pitch videos are not that great sounding compared to Liquid Sonics.
Do you have the original bricasti, can you see it sounding like vst , that's why the pros are still better...plugging manufacturers only make you guys get excited and every time you will have to buy new version always
Really good sound. But after looking at their webpage i see you need an iLok2? No thank you. iLok2 must be the most turn-off and stupid way of activating a plugin.
Why so much hate for iLok? I quite like it. Just chuck the license onto a connected iLok, download the software, and that's it. Lots of other companies have an incomprehensible licensing policy and make you jump through way more hoops to authenticate the software.
I would rather use the dongle than the cloud. Never knows what Windows Update is gonna do in the background when going online and then suddenly my daw is gonna crash and I can't relaunch it or any other program before I've restarted the pc. Sometimes it'll happen 2-3 times in a row. So frustrating. I never take the dongle out of my laptop anyways :)
not likely, because there is more going on under the hood. Theres modulation of the tail if I recall - so the reverb is constantly changing - rather than just a simple IR.
They use similar parts of the engine but there's no way they sound the same because of quite a few things, one of them is that the Reverb Classics don't have the VLF control which is a very important part of the Bricasti sound. Also, many other controls are missing. That's not to say that the Reverb Classics don't sound any less epic!
Sounds great but am I mistaken that it's $300? That's a hefty price tag for a verb plug in but I guess I get it, just a little bummed I won't be joining the party.
prozak morris there's a cheaper version that's only $67 dollars. It just doesn't have all those other advanced options, which I don't think you 100% need
Hey Prozak, yes indeed but we do feel it's worth the price tag. Also, as Nugget said, there is the non-professional version which still sounds amazing but offers less tweaking options. To be honest, with some notable exceptions, good quality software reverbs don't tend to come cheap :)
Try Valhalla DSP. ($50 a plugin) To be honest I use nothing but the Valhalla stuff and H-Delay by Waves (because I've owned it since 'Nam). This is a great sounding emulation of a Bricasti, but I don't feel it's "superior" to anything Valhalla has done for me. Just a different flavor. $300 gets you just about everything they offer. valhalladsp.com/?gclid=Cj0KCQjw2v7mBRC1ARIsAAiw34-RvalOrIzTI1uk8sgzR3gdAdHgDxR5pxENLCQjOQ30nSeKgsLEVqMaAhliEALw_wcB
Nah Bricasti is over hyped. You just need a great computer and this, and you're good. I wish if people A/B'ed them the bricasti is still digital there's no magic there
What an awesome verb plugin. An incredible shame it requires ilok. I'm gonna stick with the real hardware at this point than support such an oppressive DRM policy.
By what I can tell, this does NOT sound like a Bricasti. It sounds like... well... a good plugin reverb. I actually like my TC electronic 8210 better. Whatever works for you is what you should use.. But this is not a Bricasti. Sorry.
Liquidsonics still refuses to support host-based iLok licensing. I will go with Eventide products. That usb dongle is a relic. Please leave it there where it belongs, i.e. in the past among the gullible.
Sounds like crap. I have no idea what people are liking about this. It's about as artificial sounding as any cookie cutter reverb out there. Not a troll. Just obvious.
Get a demo of it and try sunset chamber, studio b (he did try this a bit), and mechanics hall. If you don't like the sound of mech hall or sunset chamber I dunno... you must be just wanting a completely different kind of thing like plate or digital. IMO the bricasti plates are a joke compared to something like Soundtoys Little Plate.
I'm listening with some nice headphones and holy smokes this is one of the best reverbs
I have just compared with the original one and sounds 100% similar!! Amazing
Man I think i have like 20 reverb plugins...
But wow this sounds so so smooth... I'm sold!
It's very very good. Not cheap but excellent.
This reverb plugin is the best sounding ever. Like the hardware original bricasti m7. Awesome sounding vst reverb
I have just won this and the Professional version in a sweepstake by The Mix Consultancy...most amazing sound. Will put it to pretty good use onwards.
For real I can't believe I didnt know about this the last few years. It's seriously so incredible.
@@DrewRycerz It truly is!
Never ceases to amaze me even when practicing singing with it on.
Wow it sounds so good ! I like it❤
Wooooaaaa!!! That's a REVERB!
just amazing.
I really don't understand people saving it sounds the same as the Bricasti. The difference between the two is huge.
Amazinggggggggg :)
Woooow!!!!!!!
awesome.... i was waiting for this day....!!!!
Really awesome!
lets try this , show us your reverb channel .and the adjustments after the reverb:)
Good idea!
Hello Guys from Doctor mix! What do you think about comparing Seventh heaven and real Bricasti M7 unit? A lot of people on gearslutz are saying that plugin is lacking that 3D feel, but no one compared them on a video yet , What do you think about it? Have a great day , keep doing amazing stuff!!! :)
This is what's behind the lacking 3D feel: the slightly moving random modulation from algorithmic reverbs, which convolution reverbs simply can't reproduce, even not with "Fusion IR". It becomes very obvious when you stretch the decay time on Seventh Heaven. The tail gets extended, but it doesn't sound very lively to me. After all, that random modulation is one of the aspects that made the lexicon sound or EMT 250 so famous back in the day. Anyway, I still think Seventh Heaven sounds very nice and natural, but to me there are several much more worthwhile reverbs out there: 2CAudio's Breeze2, Exponential Audio's R2 and R4, Valhalla room etc.
I have no experience with these two particular reverbs, but man, this demo sounds way way way worse than the real Bricasti demos out there, which is disappointing.
@@mattwalsh9413 you must be 80 yrs old with jacked up hearing.
@@225maine Да блин хватит уже, есть люди которые реально слышат разницу, это случается когда с аналога переходишь на цифру, вот реально это частота вкуса, исчезает, у всех разный слух, так что спор бесмыслен
cool one....tnx 4 posting/sharing.
I have cracked version by r2r Very beautiful verb
Mac or Pc?
what?
Lol
You can pick up a Melda ConvolutionMB for $55 and it has about 300 more controls on it. Load up the free Bricasti M7 impulses that are available on the web and you're gold.
Those impulses work with other convolvers like Fruity Convolver, right?
@@GhostSamaritan yep they would
Great tip! It even works with Ableton's Max Convolution Reverb, so if you already have Ableton you can use those for free!
From what I'm seeing, there are really not a lot of reviews of Melda ConvolutionMB - someone should review it because the sales pitch videos are not that great sounding compared to Liquid Sonics.
Do you have the original bricasti, can you see it sounding like vst , that's why the pros are still better...plugging manufacturers only make you guys get excited and every time you will have to buy new version always
Be response will be respectable be kind of being safe that’s the way you have to do these right here at Gates
Where is the direct comparison with a real Bricasti?
Really good sound. But after looking at their webpage i see you need an iLok2? No thank you. iLok2 must be the most turn-off and stupid way of activating a plugin.
Yeah but at least now they offer cloud licenses.
iLok Cloud requires you to be connected the entire time. It's a colossal f***around... Basically, iLok = pathetic until local authorisation.
Why so much hate for iLok? I quite like it. Just chuck the license onto a connected iLok, download the software, and that's it. Lots of other companies have an incomprehensible licensing policy and make you jump through way more hoops to authenticate the software.
@@plum_line - Cloud iLok is a complete ball-ache
I would rather use the dongle than the cloud. Never knows what Windows Update is gonna do in the background when going online and then suddenly my daw is gonna crash and I can't relaunch it or any other program before I've restarted the pc. Sometimes it'll happen 2-3 times in a row. So frustrating.
I never take the dongle out of my laptop anyways :)
Does it sound the same as the Slate bundle reverb with the Bricasti IRs?
Chase the Day
Liquid Sonics also makes the slate verb so in theory it should be the same but with less controls...
not likely, because there is more going on under the hood. Theres modulation of the tail if I recall - so the reverb is constantly changing - rather than just a simple IR.
They use similar parts of the engine but there's no way they sound the same because of quite a few things, one of them is that the Reverb Classics don't have the VLF control which is a very important part of the Bricasti sound. Also, many other controls are missing. That's not to say that the Reverb Classics don't sound any less epic!
It can never sound like the bricasti
The Father speaking .
Matilde Soddu Matiiiiiii!!!!!
Sounds great but am I mistaken that it's $300? That's a hefty price tag for a verb plug in but I guess I get it, just a little bummed I won't be joining the party.
prozak morris there's a cheaper version that's only $67 dollars. It just doesn't have all those other advanced options, which I don't think you 100% need
Hey Prozak, yes indeed but we do feel it's worth the price tag. Also, as Nugget said, there is the non-professional version which still sounds amazing but offers less tweaking options. To be honest, with some notable exceptions, good quality software reverbs don't tend to come cheap :)
Try Valhalla DSP. ($50 a plugin) To be honest I use nothing but the Valhalla stuff and H-Delay by Waves (because I've owned it since 'Nam). This is a great sounding emulation of a Bricasti, but I don't feel it's "superior" to anything Valhalla has done for me. Just a different flavor. $300 gets you just about everything they offer. valhalladsp.com/?gclid=Cj0KCQjw2v7mBRC1ARIsAAiw34-RvalOrIzTI1uk8sgzR3gdAdHgDxR5pxENLCQjOQ30nSeKgsLEVqMaAhliEALw_wcB
Hi! Doctor Mix what's the differance between reverberate 2 and this one except this price))))?
Will this plugin work with Logic Pro-x. Thank you
Yes
Great reverb! (You should tune your guitar...)
It's a nice reverb, well done. A Bricasti, no, that's another level. :-)
Nah Bricasti is over hyped. You just need a great computer and this, and you're good. I wish if people A/B'ed them the bricasti is still digital there's no magic there
How do you get the Bricasti IRs? ?
Is this Dom?
How does it sound in a mix?
We've used it quite a lot now: it's really effective in the mix and we're very happy with it.
He’s good alone ,but that reverb don’t cut trough music !
Too bad it doesnt have an stereo output or input option, everything coming out from this plugin results in mono
How does it compare to Waves H-Reverb?
How does it compare to mumbling into a toilet bowl?! :D
@@BigMuff75 H-Reverb beats the toilet bowl by 300 percent. Now answer my question.
Ilok?
So why do people equate this to the Bricasti M7 specifically?
It's an emulation of the Bricasti M7
What an awesome verb plugin. An incredible shame it requires ilok. I'm gonna stick with the real hardware at this point than support such an oppressive DRM policy.
If you have the real one? Why would you watch a vid about the software version?
Good decision. No need to upgrade bro.
Exceptional reverb, but this girl sings that she doesn't need any fx :)
By what I can tell, this does NOT sound like a Bricasti. It sounds like... well... a good plugin reverb. I actually like my TC electronic 8210 better. Whatever works for you is what you should use.. But this is not a Bricasti. Sorry.
Liquidsonics still refuses to support host-based iLok licensing. I will go with Eventide products. That usb dongle is a relic. Please leave it there where it belongs, i.e. in the past among the gullible.
There are no words for how much I hate PACE / iLok or how much it frustrates me that good plug makers still use them...
I could activate my copy in an iLok Cloud session. Depends on the licence type.
This review sucks. It does not have the Glue that the Real Bricasti has
It is not better than Altiverb
is there any way i can get this plugin for free?
yea......but not as good as D-verb.......
Sounds like crap. I have no idea what people are liking about this. It's about as artificial sounding as any cookie cutter reverb out there. Not a troll. Just obvious.
Get a demo of it and try sunset chamber, studio b (he did try this a bit), and mechanics hall. If you don't like the sound of mech hall or sunset chamber I dunno... you must be just wanting a completely different kind of thing like plate or digital. IMO the bricasti plates are a joke compared to something like Soundtoys Little Plate.
I'm surprised to be honest. These sound good to me. Little Plate by Soundtoys is just amazing but limited in some ways.
... what? bro it sounds heavenly what are you talking about
This a great one