The Pacific TV Series Vs With the Old Breed - Bunker Scene
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- I made this video to show the similarities and the differences between the series and the book written by Eugene Sledge
I mixed the audio from the audiobook to the film to try synchronizing...the story is not in his entirety.
Buy the book With the Old Breed By E.B Sledge
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I was in the Marines from 2011 to 2017 as an infantryman. I used to be ashamed that I did not get to go to war. Now I thank God every day.
In war, don't just think about the soldiers. Think about the men, women and sometimes even children who make your food, clothing, ammo, weapons, vehicles, tents, bedrools & sheets, drive the trucks back home for logistics, defense building (maybe not so much as american but for example ww2 france etc.), strategists, etc. War and reistance is impossible without those millions of people who don't "get to be a hero". (This can be further understood for "normal" people in our societ. Without garbage men and burgerflippers at McDonalds, we can't have our society as we have it today. Have respect for people).
You served your part in this massive world. If you and other people weren't there to "do nothing", 80-90% of all people involved in warmaking wouldn't be there and the enemy could overrun the country pretty easily.
In the end, "doing nothing" isn't always a bad thing. You got your limbs and your sanity. Can't be said for all. Including perceived "enemies" and innocents (children etc) in war zones today. I don't have to tell you that e.g. ISIS could be deemed truly evil, or obvious aggressors like Japan during WW2 as seen above and they should be fought, but war and people in general are complex and everything is relative and hard to perceive due to countless perceptions from different sides.
You got out. You, your kids and generations to come can therefor live a happy life and prosper.
Be kind, be respectful, be understanding to your fellow man, no matter skin color, religion, sex, creed, etc. (As long as they do the same).
Matt Taylor my dad was in the Pacific in WW2. He was so proud of his service. When I was 22 he was on his deathbed and I told him I wanted to become a Marine. He said only if you have to son, otherwise don't do it. I don't want you to ever see what I saw. I still regret not joining but also glad I never saw what he did.
The nation prepared you to go, if called. Better to be ready and not needed than needed and not ready. Semper Fi, Mac.
What unit
I'm an Army vet who served in Iraq from 2004-2005 and I can say for sure....war sucks....knowing what I know now about the war I would not go back and do it again because it was just a huge waste and completely unnecessary.
"If the country is good enough to live in, then its good enough to fight for". That's some deep hitting words right there.
christian geurilla - obviously you do not in in the US
Christian Guerilla
let's hear about the backward shithole you live in
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I dont know anyone that’d die for the US
@@paddymac5161 You dont? There's over 170 million
Read the book. Probably the finest, purest book about war ever written. No movie could ever actually show the horrors those men went through.
you are so right
Every time I see scenes like this I think of what my grandfather told me about his time over there. Stories still give me chills.
It’s a fantastic book -Riveting !!
Saying this joking with a smile. But u book readers I swear. The movie did a great job showing the horror. Lol 😆. I only say that because I am forty and can't read lol 😆
Lived the life 27 yrs service . 5 tours.I foresee bad times ahead of us
As a Marine, I was able to visit many battle sites from the Pacific. Many bunkers and fortified positions still stand. Some with so much battle damage, yet no visible holes. I have so much respect for all who stormed those beaches, stood up to those impenetrable cement machine gun bunkers and fought through that terrain. Semper fi
"If its good enough to live in, its good enough to fight for." Damn straight.
Just so long as you're fighting killing and dying for your COUNTRY
NOT for a corporation or political agenda
I like his last quote, with privilege goes responsibility
@David Kreutzer amen to that!🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Especially currently - highly underrated.
That’s what my Dad told me & my 3 brothers when we graduated from high school. I joined the Marine Corps and my younger brother was drafted in the Marines. We both went to Vietnam. Charlie was hit by mortar fire I didn’t get a scratch, we both came home. Semper Fi Brothers
Thank you being brave. I was born in 1960 and prayed God bless all the men in Viet nam every night for many years.
Thank you and your brother for your service.
You know it’s been over 50 years since I stepped off the plane in Danang. But, when I close my eyes I can see it all & hear the sounds. The one thing I remember is the smell, like being in an old outhouse in the sun. Funny what stays in your mind. Semper Fi
@@johnwilliamson2276 Oct 15th 1967
Hope you both found some peace and quiet at home. Glad to hear you both made it back!
I need more stuff like this. Scenes from shows with the source material being read beside it. It’s an altogether new and interesting experience to be able to compare directly the difference between the Book and theatrical versions of a story.
Five stars all around.
I watched the Pacific a few times through before I finally pulled the trigger and bought the book. The book has so much detail and really describes the brutality that Sledge and the guys in the Pacific were experiencing. It is a must read.
My father served at Peleliu and Okinawa in the 1st Marines. The stories he told were every bit as intense and harrowing as Sledge, when you could get him to talk about it. The difference is Sledge wrote a (great) book with his experiences. These were special men. Semper Fi.
@@Bill308A10 dont want to sound like a boring nerd but the 7th marines werent in tarawa or saipan, maybe the 6th or 8th?
@@maximilianodelrioThe 7th Marines were a regiment in the 1st Marine Division.
@@jaybeeonyt yes, and the 1st marine division wasn't in tarawa
2nd Marine Division was at Tarawa. 2nd, 6th, 8th, and 10th (Artillery) were at Tarawa.
My grandfather was in 1st Marines K35 with this crew. He was wounded in this exchange actually. What is your fathers name??
With the Old Breed and Helmet for My Pillow, are two of the most incredible books I have ever read. Truly sobering tales. I recommend listening to them on audiobook, both books can be found narrated by the actors playing the authors on the show which really adds the experience. James Badge Dale brings out the best of Leckie’s sarcasm and dark humour, as well as his cynical intellect. While Joseph Mazzello showcases Sledges more somber, stoic, and weary tone. It’s clear in the tone and writing of these two books that they are written nearly 3 decades apart. While Leckie’s recollection still feel recent with moments of remembered humour, there is also a truly moving reflection at the end regarding the atomic bomb and how deeply it affected Leckie and the world. Sledge’s book on the other hand is far more focus and sober, equally articulate but clearly written by someone who has had 3 decades to think about these events. It is less about characters and stories and far more about the authors thoughts and feelings.
I was as captivated by this series as I was by Saving Private Ryan and Band Of Brothers. I knew this was based upon actual events experienced by Eugene Sledge. It is so interesting to see the slight differences between the series and the book - in real time. Very well done. Thank you
"With privelidge goes responsibility." Words to live by.
In the deepest part of my heart I have nothing but respect and gratitude for the men who fought and died in the pacific theatre in WWII.
And only dark contempt for those who do not feel the same.
I have beautiful, spoiled, happy grandchildren and I truly believe they would not be here, or at best their lives would be very much different had these men (young men, mostly) not picked up a rifle and hit those beaches, time and again.
There are no honors or accolades high enough.
Never take your freedom for granted. It was bought at the highest price.
E.B. Sledge taught at the university I attended. I read his book in the mid-1980s and stopped by his campus office to ask him to sign it. He did and we had a please conversation. A very friendly man. I never had a class with him as the instructor. He was well known on campus and as a professor he had a reputation as tough but fair. About 20 years later I was watching a history of the Marine Corps on the History Channel and he was interviewed in the show. I told my wife that Doctor Sledge was on TV and she joined me watching his interview. Then they had footage of his funerial. It was very sad to learn of his passing right after the joy of watching him talk.
You are very fortunate to have met him...I wish I would have....may he rest in peace
there was alot of editing...the real bunker scene in the book is alot longer...as you'll discover
thanks for the comment ;-)
why would you edit so much?
@@andrewapurcell To reasonably fit in the TV footage.
It got a lot of the details right. You also have to remember the narration makes it seem longer.
This is a cool idea! You could actually do this with a lot of books made into movies. I'm reading With the Old Breed right now.
When a movie is made based on a book, use the words "based on" as a warning. Do not confuse "based on" with "faithful to the original text". The screen writer can take "liberties", artistic or otherwise, with the book's text. Be aware of "composite characters", a character based on more than one individual from the preceding story, a definition copied from Wikipedia, my artistic liberty. Bottom line: see the movie then READ THE BOOK. If you read the book first, you may become angry when you see the movie. @LaG: You have invented a new, wonderful genre, please make more of them. A university professor could use them in his screenwriting class.
Thanks! I really appreciate your comment... I'm thinking about doing one with helmet for my pillow...it's time consuming but I like it
LaG WaGoNqC please do.
World War II is Japan's victory
In Asia, China was a semi-colonial era and lost all colonial powers of the European powers, Japan lost by force, but the Asian rule of white rule
I finished it.
Japan has achieved ambitious Asian independence since the end of the battle.
I didn’t read the book but listened to it. Some parts(many actually) were quite chilling.
With the old breed is the absolute best book about WW2 you will ever read. There’s no pretentiousness in it, no fluff about heroics. Eugene tells you exactly how it is in all it’s horror, comradeship and struggle.
it is one of the best book i've read...I strongly recommend you read helmet for my pillow from Robert Leckie..it is too...a masterpiece...the difference between the two is that one is written by a writer...it's amazing...
Thank you Eugene Sledge, snafu, John basilone, leaky and all our other servicemen is served in Pacific and Atlantic theaters, you all are part of the greatest generations ever that kept the world from falling into darkness darkness, we will never begin to understand the toll it's taken on you all, you all are my heroes for all times
Very well done, not least because you began with an excellent concept. The realistic action footage from "The Pacific" and Eugene Sledge's written record of the events (including his internal insights, no doubt sharpened with the passage of time) both reinforce and amplify each other brilliantly.
This was a very good idea - to narrate the book over the mini-series. Thank you.
A great presentation! A+ With the Old Breed should be mandatory reading for every high school or college kid. And this segment really captures the profound humanity and decency of Sledge. To have regard and compassion for the enemy amidst such savage fighting shows E.B. Sledge's heroism: he was truly a great man. Again, well done on juxtaposing the film with the book!
If you've ever been to the beach in Florida or anywhere down south in the summer, imagine doing that with lots of clothes on and carrying 50 pounds on your back with people shooting at you for a year or so. No shower, little food and horrible smells for a year. That was those guys lives. Unbelievable.
What 50 pounds? Most of these dudes only had a rifle, knife, and, ammo, and canteens.
I watched The Pacific when it first ran. I had previously read With The Old Breed. When I realized the book was in the story- priceless. I was impressed.
The book is on RUclips as a verbal album in 12 installments. Well worth listening to. As close as one can come to being there without dodging bullets. Semper Fi
Thank you for your service, Matthew. My Dad was a Marine in the second division in WWII. He served as a 60mm mortarmen. He fought on Saipan island, was in the floating reserve of Okinawa's south coast. A few weeks after the war ended he a buddies were walking around in the atomic bomb blast rubble of Nagasaki, crazy. He then had occupational duty for three months then returned home. He stayed in the Marine corps reserves and every Marine knows what happened next. He served in the 1st division as a 81mm mortar man and survived the Chosen reservoir debacle
My dad was in the second marine division also. Served at Tarawa, Saipan and Okinawa
Im not sure but I think the Japanese guy running at Sledge with the sword was actually the experience of another Marine on Peleliu, incorporated into the show by using familiar characters to better express the gravity of the situation.
@I like ya cut g I don't have a name at the moment but I remember reading about it somewhere. Nevertheless this very thing happened to a few members of K/3/5 on Peleliu and Eugene Sledge's memoir, "With the Old Breed at Peleliu and Okinawa" definitely points this out as happening several times during nighttime Japanese raids. I think it may have been also mentioned in Bill Sloan's "Brotherhood of Hero's".
If they can live through that, then we can live through this!!
No kidding.
Plenty of them didn’t live through it.
Simone The Digger that was the point!
By the power of my ballsack and the Holy Spirit, we shall carry through to absolute victory!
some not through this
yeah you could get a lot of subs by doing this.
He should do this for other Books/Movies or Series. Maybe he could do the rest of the Pacific scenes and synchronize them with helmet for my pillow.
Brett are you super intrigued and into the history of the Second World War?
this comment didnt age well
it aged like fine creme'
You scored a 10/10 for making this video. Great work!
I just heard yesterday that Hershel “Woody” Williams, he’s 98 years old now & is the last living Medal of Honor Recipient of WWII, had took a fall down some steps & broke some ribs & fractured his spleen. He carried a Flame Thrower on Iwo Jima & his actions there saved countless other Marines thus he was awarded the MOH. He was at his home in West Virginia when he had his accidental fall & I pray that he is able to recover from his injuries. That’s a hell of a thing, all that he went through during the War & then years later ends up like this now.
Good video premise! I read the book version fairly recently and liked it a lot more because its pacing makes it clear it was an inordinately long ordeal. The medium of film craves action and so giving the story the same treatment as the book woulda messed with the pacing of the episode.
only thing worse than war is to be conquered without a fight and live under tyranny
Not to support those who risk their lives and instead to disparage their efforts would be worst.
Powerful stuff. Amazing execution. Thank you for doing this.
This was cool, nice work.
What an amazing story told and shown in such a projecting way
Thank you for your service
I like what you did by reading from the Old Bread vs the Pacific, put another dimension to it, thx!
I have yet to figure out what in the hell this isn't taught in high schools more often. I truly think it will make the young people more appreciating to our freedoms that so many have died for
You are so right...I am Canadian as well...
Is this not taught in American schools anymore?
I am in highschool in america and last year in history class we spent 25 minutes total on ww2. Our teacher brought up the invasion of poland, pearl harbor, stalingrad, and then the atomic bombs and that was our ww2 unit. I think the only reason he even mentioned stalingrad and didnt just skip to the atomic bombs is because i did a report on it earlier in the year. It sucks because i was looking forward to it all year
They don't teach it cause you might actually appreciate your country and what our vets have given in war. Yes war hell, but sometimes marching into hell is worth it, and our country, USA, is worth it. Warts and all, it is worth it.
So I do work as a teacher. Not in Canada but in Europe and teach three subjects, one of them is history. Now I have around three hours per class per week to teach the vital parts of our development. There simply isn't enough time for us to talk about all those things so we try to motivate the students to do their own research. In the grand scheme it is unimportant how the war was fought. For a better understanding it can still be useful so I tend to save some time to talk about warfare in the first and second world war (Edit: between one and two hours about each) but again: Time is scarce. Don't blame us teachers. We are doing our best with the time we have.
Great book and a great mini series
This was an awesome experience. Loved the idea. Thank you.
This goes to show how The Pacific is one of the best TV Series of all time. Absolutey amazing.
Very nice comparison, extremely well done. I may never forget what Sledge wrote at the end of his story of Peleliu, the description of death and the state of the island as he was withdrawn to rear areas.
Well done! Loved both the book and the series.
This is awesome, I would watch a ton of this
Commandants Reading List, you have brought me here
His book is true literature. Best book on the Pacific war by far. Perhaps war in general.
World War II is Japan's victory
In Asia, China was a semi-colonial era and lost all colonial powers of the European powers, Japan lost by force, but the Asian rule of white rule
I finished it.
Japan has achieved ambitious Asian independence since the end of the battle.
The Japanese lost the war
Get over it
@@user-uu5um4fy1r Japan LOST
ヤマトウズメ they committed war crimes and did terrible things during the war, and never apologized
Thats my mate Tom saying the Bunkers clear! We joke about it to this day, "it wasn't really clear now was it mate"!
in the pacific, the only bunker clear was the one reduced to rubble
great video, thank you.
Came back here after reading in R. V. Burgin’s book about this scene, he went inside the bunker afterwards to finish off the last dying Japanese soldier, war is brutal
My Father and Grandfather drove me to SFO (Another experience in and of itself!) on my returning to Vietnam after leave. Talk was kind of somber, then my Grandfather said to me, "Just don't "Catch" any of this, Grandson!" and showed me old shrapnel wounds from the first world war he'd received in Belleau Wood, on his arm and wrist. I miss them both!
Real cool! Great video!
If you read or like i did listened to the audio book, what difference I got out of the book and movie is that Eugene Sledge was already attending a military academy vs the movie that was showing him with a supposed heart murmur claiming that he was exempt from duty.
Every old guy I ever met who fought in the Pacific theater hated the Japanese with a deep rooted hatred. I didn't understand it as a kid, but as I have learned more about what the Japanese were like during WWII, I totally get it.
👍 My grandfather (DSC) served in Burma, and was a very placid fella. However, he too despised the Japs for the rest if his days, due to their sadistic cruelty and the ill treatment of POWs...
Thank you, very enjoyable.
This is amazing. Thanks so much.
Thanks for the uploading this video! It's very good. I've read *WITH THE OLD BREED* by Eugene Sledge and *HELMET FOR MY PILLOW* by Robert Leckie and watched the HBO mini-series *THE PACIFIC* I've got to admit that the only time I got misty eyed was during the final episode of *THE PACIFIC* after the war ended and they returned home. The PTSD that those Marines suffered through isn't often acknowledged.
This is very well done.
I watched the other and then found this one. This one I find more to my liking. The narration is superb.
“With the Old Breed “
by Eugene Sledge .
A classic .Read it .
This was awesome.
War is man's insanity on parade.
No wonder sledge had nightmares for years. RIP Sledge and the rest of your buddies 🙏.
This is actually very cool! I would love to more of these with different movies.
Wow, that was intense. What a great idea to read from the book while watching the movie version. I read Sledges book almost two years ago and remember reading this part but didn't go back and watch that scene. I am currently reading "the last of the tin can sailors" and I wish this book had scenes to compare it to.
I Read Sledges book over Christmas and loved it. Currently reading 'Neptunes Inferno' about the naval battles of Guadalcanal.
Great, great book!! Last stand of the tin can sailors i got from my grandad a few years back as a sophomore. Just read Tin Can Titans
“If the country is good enough to live in its good enough to fight for” yeah that’s steadily becoming not even true about the USA. I’m glad most of these men didn’t live to see what’s happening to this country
Don’t worry our country has been through worse
Most of them grew up during the Great Depression, they knew times, as CHILDREN, much worse than we’ve known. Don’t buy into the so-called “news”. They are selling a product and more people tune into bad news than good news, ....entertaining drama and narrative creating are their best sellers. Everyone, on the road, slows down to check out an accident. It’s human nature and they know it.
Just remember one of media’s favorite maxims; If it Bleeds, it Leads....
America has seen worst times than this before.....and later thrived.
You invite the Third World, you become the Third World.
@@aforerunner1773 when?
@@dannyh8288 oh , I don't know...do ya think maybe 1861-1865????
This was really good.
You did a good job with the video.
4:27 When you see a giant spider.
"With privilege, goes responsibility", that's goddamn right.
This is why decentralised command is a good thing. If your management knows you they'll listen if you have a better plan.
Excellent.
Nicely done.
My grandfather was part of a mortar team in the Pacific. Bronze star. Never told exactly how
So! Sgt Saunders from Combat is also a gunnery sergeant in the Marines! Now we know why he's got that helmet cover huh? Hehehe..
the fidelity of this depiction of war shows real commitment
This book sounds good. the book 'Dispatches' from a correspondent in Vietnam was my favourite because of the way he was able describe what he saw, like 'I felt like i was in a film for 3 months, nothing felt real like i was looking at it through the wrong end of a telescope', the author Michael Herr worked on Full Metal jacket and Apocolypse Now.
AWESOME VIDEO
James Jones, a WW2 Pacific veteran, wrote about Guadalcanal in the "Thin Red Line." Many movies have been made about this book but the book is best to read. Other history books are okay too but guys like James Jones are hard to beat. He was a very smart and good writer known for "From Here to Eternity" made into a Burt Lancaster movie in the early 1950's.
The things I like about the 98 version by Malick are Staros refusing Tall’s orders, the cinematography and of course Hans Zimmer’s score.
awsome!
The book was THE finest I've ever read about any of the WW2 combatants and I,m on my eighth reading.Absolute classic and should be compulsory reading in schools.
We want more!!!
"With privilege goes responsibility." Something a lot of people in this generation need to learn.
What do you think the George Floyd protests were about...?
With the Old Breed - What a great book! It should be required reading for our "leaders", but everyone should invest time in learning about the actions of those people to whom we owe a great deal.
OUTSTANDING!!!
sledge love you man.thank you
I have heard this narrator do audiobooks. He does great.
I feel like this narated by ralphy from christmas story lol
Was wondering where I'd heard that voice before.
My step dad was in the navy during ww2. He rarely talked about it but when he did, i couldn't even comprehend it. I was 11. He lost a toe due to a grenade, and much of the skin on the outer side of his leg up past the knee. Could see the bone where the skin healed around it.
The flame thrower assistant should always get a mention. Along with the holder too. Dangerous but very satisfying when it's total war.
They were constantly targeted whenever they showed up in battle. One well-placed round through the tank and it was instant Fourth of July.
The Amtrac with a 75mm gun was a version of the APC vehicle but with a short barrel 75mm gun in a small turret a bit like the turrets on the Stuart light tanks.
The vehicle in the video is obviously a Sherman tank.
This is a comparion of the book and how it has been shown in the film.
LVT(A)4 is the version you are referring to. It had a 75mm howitzer not a gun which fired a special shell designed to destroy bunkers.
If I remember rightly, the 1st Marine division were the first to be called The Old Breed. Then they went on to Chosin and were called The New Breed. Either way, they were magnificent.
"If it's good enough to live in it's good enough to fight for.." MERICA.
Damn, I’m going to have to read this book now! I already read beyond the band of brothers and I kinda prefer the movies. The books were kind of self-aggrandizing but overall a good read.
Great clip, with the exception that the vehicle in it is not an Amtrac, it’s an M4A2 Sherman.
Only thing I don’t like about this series is that the narrator sounds like the same guy who did the Sandlot.
Every one should watch this, and think about it.
I’m always amazed how fast flies appear on the faces of the dead.
This was a great show
In the book and even here he says “Amtrak with a mounted 75. Yet they used a tank for the movie. Probably no tracks were available.
That tank was a sherman, very practical in the Pacific.
Creative liberties need to be taken for a show like this
I don’t think they had any Amtanks on set. Plus I don’t think that’s a change that really matters all that much, it’s still an armoured vehicle with a 75mm cannon.
I read his book, v.good. hell they went through, he portrays the misery so well. Great men.