The Pacific TV Series Vs With the Old Breed - Capt. Haldane's death
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- Опубликовано: 20 окт 2024
- I made this video to show the similarities and the differences between the series and the book written by Eugene Sledge
I mixed the audio from the audiobook to the film to try synchronizing...the story is not in his entirety.
Buy the book With the Old Breed By E.B Sledge
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How many Captain Haldanes died in their prime throughout the history? Extraordinary men who could have accomplished great things not for just their countries but for all humanity. What a colossal, colossal loss.
he died in a wrong battle a battle that has been for nothing they sent young American men to die and eventually didn't use the island for any future operation.
It is like the Korean war but small sent into an island nobody knew it ever existed and yet they died for nothing.
I want to ask myself why.
Who knows? We could've lost brains the equivalent of Albert Einstein throughout the sands of time in numerous wars. It is truly a shame. Sending potentially great men to the slaughter house..
@@mansourbellahel-hajj5378 I know it is a great shame and tragedy, that these men didn't had to die like that, At the same time, I like to believe that these men did actually die for something. Without these men, Without these men who bravely volunteered and went through the farthest reaches of hell, We would all be speaking German and Japanese and constantly be doing the Hitler salute in our schools. We could've lost all our rights and freedoms. Our privileges. Without these men, Hate. Hate would rule the word. People would have prejudices against people who aren't German or Japanese. Hate against the Jew, Black, etc. WW2 was literally a fight to contain pure Evil.
@@AbrahamLincoln4 These men were great because they were willing to give up their potential and their future, all the good they may be able to do for themselves, for their brothers and their principles. There is an addage that "You don't make nails out of good iron, and you don'y make soldiers out of good men."
This addage, from everything I have learned of life, is absolutely not true.
@@AbrahamLincoln4 yep, men on both sides were sent to death. Poets, performers and artists were sent as Kamikaze pilots in Japan, and some wrote just before they went before their mission
Captain Andrew Haldane is regarded as one of tge finest marine Corp officers in the pacific. This Comes from the Marines that served under him....Marines don't just praise anyone.
Exactly…and especially officers.
That is most definitely a fact
He was 28 years old when he died. A terrible waste of life.
Praise from battle hardened marines is worth more then any amount of money in the world
Amen 🙏 to the best in the Pacific in WW2.
Idk if anyone else watched the show enough to catch this, but Haldane’s dad worked in a textile mill. They made blankets, like the one they cover him with
Amazing
I sorry didn’t realize someone this dense would see my comment
@I lol you're a dick head dude. Hopefully you're a edgy 13 year old. If not then I imagine your life is pretty miserable.
@I I'm sorry what?
Edit: oh my bad just realized what this was. And nah you got it all wrong. I was simply just calling you a dickhead because you're obviously a dickhead. Look what you said lol.
I remember that part. And his dad could have made the very blanket that they put on him. He even said it brought him comfort thinking of the Blankets.
He's buried at Arlington. Pay your respects if you can. I plan to.
Charles, can you help me? Is there a way to send flowers to his grave from abroad? Please reply back.
Catherine Thank you so much Catherine
@@dba4292 You're welcome - I'm sure florists in the area get a lot of requests to place flowers on graves there.
Catherine That would make sense 😊 Thanks again.
A little update. I contacted FloristOne(dot)Com and they where willing to help and assist placing flowers. A little background: I'm a 33 year old Norwegian with American heritage and I was so grateful that FloristOne would help me. My order is to be placed on Saturday September 12th on his grave. And I asked for flowers to be placed in the ground so they would last a while. I hope my flowers will show just how much he means to me, I tried my best communicating and expressing my wishes to Arlington and Florist One. I want to thank Arlington National Cemetery who helped me every step of the way, and Florist One that didn't question anything and were most accommodating, and thank you so much @Catherine for all the help, I feel in dept. And Catherine I saw your comment here "Walt Whitman poem" that was so beautiful. My card will write: "You will never know how much you have influenced my life. I will never forget you for the rest of my life." And that is true, for the rest of my life I will never forget Captain Haldane.
Thank you everyone. -With all my heart and all my love.
This is incredible. As a Marine Grunt, I know the feeling of having to just pick up and push forward after such an incident. It sucks. It’s surreal even to this day. You have plenty of time to think about all these incidents, but they will never go away. Semper Fi, legends. None of you will ever be forgotten.
Damn. Even Snafu was shook.
Snafu was bad ass
Yes, that always got me. Even Snafu was sad asf. Shows how important Captain H was to all them
I was absolutely crushed the first time I watched this. He was a good leader
I was too, the first time I read it. Just so crushing. So sad. These poor guys. I don’t know how they ever readjusted to life, if they survived, back home.
I've read Eugen Sledge's book a dozen times now, at least a dozen. I first read it in the base library at Camp Lejeune in 1998. I was a boot PFC and on weekends, if I didn't want to be put on working parties all morning. cleaning up everyone else's beer cans and cigarette butts and whatever from drinking all night, I would get up early. Eat chow and disappear. The library had books! The internet café which was new to me. A WWII Marine, veteran from Tarawa, was the librarian there most Saturday mornings. He handed me this book and I read it cover to cover. I get choked up every time I hear about how devastated they were when CPT. Haldane was KIA. I get it, not to the extent they did that day, but after serving 2 years in Iraq, I understand how you start to rely on those who are reliable, and really learn to love them for it. It's harder to bear it when they're gone. Even when it's just temporary, R&R or something. You notice them gone.
I was sobbing too when i first watch the episode.
Dawadson Surong me too bro. I loved his character the first time i saw him. He reminded me of Lt/Cpt/Mjr Winters from Band of Brothers. That calm presence of him made me feel as the viewer he was gonna keep him men safe.
As a soldier how do you continue after loosing your Captain father-figure? Only the Lord knows what these men must of endured.
@@J1GS4W_13 Agree completely with what you said. I cry every time I watch this scene.
Me too. I loved Captain Haldane.
i really appreciate you making these!!
I made one on the bunker scene and it was awesome...youtube took it down for some reason...never got word of it...it just disapeared...
thanks for the comment
You should remake it seriously! I have a page on facebook with 80k likes Nd followers, it's all about american veterans,american military and american military history! if you put it on youtube I will post it on my page! My top video is a WW2 vet on iwo jima seeing his brother get his head blown off and he picked up his brothers helmet with his brothers head in his helmet and had to dig a grave for his brother it got 10 million views on facebook! I have about 40 videos almost everyone is above 500k views 15 over a million! If you make it I would be happy to post it on my page!
@@SkunkTornado24 what the fuck? Wow 10 million views on Facebook!
Wow here's me crying again about this.
“He wasn’t an idol. He was human”.
I recognise this voice from Mises audiobooks. I know sledge gave a lecture there too.
I almost cried. Damn
Is never to late my friend
6 years later i found this gem man good shit
Thank You so much for these.
I had to pause the series at this point it was just so sad thinking of the suffering these guys lived wIth.
I don’t understand why they changed the show up so much the book is so good
I think it was so things would hit better. Since you weren't immersed with the thoughts of the marines and captain Haldane didn't get much screen time it would not have hit as hard. I remember when watching this show at this time when they said "the skipper is dead" my thoughts were who was the skipper again. But in the book it was tragic. Same with how many actions and words said by other marines were given to snafu. Snafu did not tell Sledge not to cut out that guys gold teeth. Someone else did. But he was only mentioned a few times in the book. Sledge knew a lot of people so concessions had to be made to convey what the book was trying to say. I mean this series was done very well and it still doesn't even come close to describing what the book gives us. Some scenes are made to be more dramatic, but even with that extra bit added to the show, it still doesn't come close to how powerful the book was. Some things just are difficult to potray in a video medium.
I will say that every change made from the book was done to better serve the book material.
Its an amalgam of two books. They just mashed them together to make one show.
@@zackeryhardy9504 what book is this ? I need to read it
@@alanrivas2950 With the old breed at peleliu and okinawa by eugine sledge
I see the series as a gateway to the book.
This is a very moving scene just like it was describe in the book With the old breed. If you haven't read it get a copy , you hang on to every word every page.
Thank you. Never forget them.
I’m listening to this book now we’ll not right now but when I work my rocks I’ve been listening the last few days and it’s wild what a living hell
Thank you for this. Rest in Peace my heroes.
The sledege´s regement was founded in Veracruz Mexico in 1914
To every officer in every army in the world, or every person planning to become an officer, I order you: aim to become an officer that inspires such devotion and respect that someone writes these words about you one day. It's not about forcing people to salute you. It's about being so good to them that they want to.
Rest in peace.
I came here to pay my respect
He died for his men.
This is where the marines cry
Please do more
In the show we felt that, let alone the marines that were serving with him.
It's hard to imagine that the main character here was the boy from the first Jurassic Park.
Rv burgin said that in real life haldane’s head was completely blown off
I have Burgin's book...Islands of the damned...I should look in it...I don't remember if he describes it in his book...
nope...no mention...but funny enough they both recognize(sledge and burgin) that johnny Marmet came down to announce ack-ack's death..but in the scene they took Burgin..weird...
Fesno I think I read that on Wikipedia too, that there wasn’t even a point in calling a corpsman, his death was instantaneous.
It is really amazing how closely Sledge and Burgin's accounts coincide , and how accurate the show captured the sentiment of their accounts.
@@lagwagonQc I have it also, excellent read...
Yo i would do this for other movies aswell this shit is good
More videos please
And now these men had to go on without him.
RIP Captain Haldane, true leader.
I never understood the casting decision for Sledge. I think it was a mis-cast.
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I cannot refrain from reminding folks that the image is not a realistic portrayal of a human being who received an injury that is incompatible with life from a modern centerfire rifle cartridge to the head. We did not need it to be dumbed down after all the other terrible realities portrayed and it should not have been. If we're trying to present a useful depiction of events than it can't lie about things like this. If they really didn't want to show the reality they could have just kept the head covered.
I read from another memoir of a Marine who was only a few feet from Ack Ack when he was killed and it was by far more brutal and devastating, gruesome than what is depicted here in the miniseries. It goes to show that even for as great a job as they did with portraying how violent and gory the Pacific was, it just simply would’ve been too much to show Captain Haldane in the state he was actually in after the sniper had shot him.
They tried to pack too much bullshit into The Pacific. Snafu and a few others come off almost like cartoon characters, and a few of the Okinawa scenes are just silly. The fighting on Iwo was also portrayed as comic book-style silliness.
elaborate?
When Dick Winters was consulting with Tom Hanks on Band of Brothers, Hanks told Winters that in light of Hollywood critics and entertainment value the show would need to be 80/20. 80% historical accuracy to 20% Hollywood inaccuracy. One of the reasons I have a hard time watching both The Pacific and BOB is that they are portrayed as historically accurate when in fact they are Hollywood interpretations.
I think Snafu is a great example. For instance, when Sledge gets the inclination to cut out the molars of a dead Japanese soldier, it is Doc Caswell who steps in to stop him, not Snafu. Also, Sledge describes a fellow mortarman throwing the pebbles into the skull of the dead Japanese soldier in the same scene, not Snafu.
A screenwriter's job is not easy. Producers and executives are constantly pinching pennies and have no morals in regard to historical significance or accuracy. They'll tell you to roll 4 characters into 1 to save on casting cost. They'll tell you to make a character morally reprehensible or unlikeable despite evidence to the contrary (Snafu, Norman Dike, Spears). They'll tell you that a causeway is a small river, and a crater is a ditch because it's cheaper to hire 1 digital artist than hundreds of set designers.
How was Iwo portrayed as comic silliness? Are you talking about how Basilone mowed down japanese soldiers in the trenches? Because he really did that.
There’s like 6 brigadier generals from army who. Died in normandy but one ones give a sht lol
2 rear admirals from the USN died in the night battle of Guadalcanal, one of the rear admiral was killed by friendly fire from USS San francisco a Heavy cruiser
Frontline soldiers don't see generals much, but company commander is always there and the soldiers know him.
@@bobsemple3268 that’s why I like the navy. If something happens to the ship we’re all equally fucked.
@@goodtimes2088 lol
Yeah nobody really gives a damn what rank they are dude. It's not because Haldane was a Captain that they cared, it was his character and leadership.