Normies and PUA say, "Get out of your comfort zone." It's a bogus statement. If you are getting social anxiety it's your body and brain 🧠 saying get the F out of there.
If your comfort zone is your room, then your body is confused and needs to be tought every interaction is not a threat. The problem is repeated negative experiences, you think that just goes away over night? Sheesh, this is coming from an autist. It took years of getting out of my comfort zone during college to get over my "anxiety". Most autists will STAY that way, because the negative experiences are too much to overcome when theres really no incentive to suffer the uncomfortable. Read the comment section, they have a much better grasp on the reality of autism and anxiety.
I would be more social if it were more rewarding in my youth. Now I've gone so long being asocial it's extremely difficult to break out of this behavior. Solitude is addicting and it's very true
This is a fact. I would be considered a Chad, I was voted most attractive in high school. I’ve never had trouble attracting women, but I’m autistic and introverted. I’m antisocial, and I live in solitary life
I’m antisocial but I don’t really view it as a problem. To me I feel like if you understand people for who they really are it’s hard to want to be social. I would much rather have peace and solitude. Yes some people may think I’m a weirdo but those people aren’t worth having around anyways. I would much rather have some people think I’m a weirdo and not have to deal with people’s BS than try to be the life of the party just to end up in a transactional relationship with someone who will most likely let me down.
Javal, I believe you and I fall into what is called "The gray area." Some even call it being a "Nearcell". We both get female interaction but we still come up short. Or the woman we get is a crazy beech. Jack and stacked did a video on it.
@javalsmith2594 I don't drink alcohol or do any drugs; not even cigarettes or weed. I see homeless drug addicts with girlfriends. They don't even go through the problems with women like us. They don't get falsely accused or deal with women's stupid games. I had a good friend who even mentioned, "How come you tend to get with woman like this?" This was when I was dealing with a woman recently.
@Taylormademan900 i think its because these women sense weakness in men like us, they cant play the same games with dudes that are like them, they take our chillness/kindness for granted
Being social don't mean anything... Im a social guy at times but women still dont see me as boyfriend or husband material. I get either friendzoned or turn down the majority of the time. You either have it or you don't.
Being social is just the base you still have to have something that gives you your charm. Wether that may be your humor or sarcasm or whatever. Everyone has their thing. But truly I’m not social barely at all I’m kinda social like it’s situational for me but I can’t initiate anything which is how you make a lot of relationships or potential ones. Because that first approach even if you are a fairly average looking guy, is what will solidify in their mind if they are interested or not. Even a tad bit. Then there’s plenty of ways to do things we have to remember all of this stuff is a game and you have to try different stuff to see what works for you. For instance, a lot of guys look at friend zones as something bad. Trust me a girl as a friend is helpful especially if you already don’t get any women if you actually build a bond with a woman she’ll actually initiate stuff for you. It’s just you have to kinda change your perspective to get different outcomes. Another example may be a coworker you like, you could approach head on, and you know ask her to go hang out or whatever or you could play it slow by every now and then quick chat and throw a couple of compliments in and continue on like nothing happened. For some reason women like that type of attitude where you aren’t over thirsty but you at least show signs you are interested. It’s really a game tbh. I’m fairly young but I’m still trying to learn the game myself.
I don't play the game, I'm real. You have to be fake now days to be social, you can't be yourself. Thats why I'm TRUE FORCE LONELINESS. Women don't like quite guy, cos they can't control you. END OF STORY.
@@josephazzaro9895 im an average quiet dude as well but i’ve seen a lot pf situation of attractive quiet guys getting promotions and getting girls without even trying in my workspace, I got traumatized got instantly black pilled in those months of work
I try to put myself out there but I'm never able to fit in with normal people. I always get rejected from the tribe, and I've always known since a kid I'm not a very social person. Both of those things have made me what I am today.
You're right, Javal. The social pill is the true pill. I know because I am also an introvert, and women tend to think that we're creepy and unsafe to be around if we're not jestermaxxing. But to be social is to be fake. One must decide for oneself whether or not it is worth it. If not, then prepare to miss out on a lot of normal life experiences, and try to make peace with it somehow, the hardest pill to swallow. At the end of the day, a man is just a man.
i couldnt relate more than this, the thing is even if you managed to be as much as normal in first couple interactions with 1 person, it only takes 1 slip of stuttering or anxious vibes that's immedlitly turn them off, I remember when I first time got into my job, I was the most outgoing person and i talk with everyone but overtime I got tired I'm not an extrovert, I started to recover in my workspace I didn't talk with anyone and when someone talks to me I'm just exhausted, I learned to not be the guy you want to be cuz life doesn't work like that instead I accepted what I am that I'm an introvert and talking too much make me exhausted and I will be just anxious and thats shows my autism a bit, its just a really odd situation, and let me clarify something an attractive guy he doesn't have to try that much his "aura" presence is enough for girls you just need to be normal just like the delivery guy and that's enough
Normies act like we as a social herd-animal have to somehow "learn" social skills, do they think every social animal rlly just practices their behaviour to fit in hahaha
Its really not that simple. Your ability to be social greatly depends on how your base personality meshes with that of the usual temperament of your environment. As a black guy who grew up in the south, this environment is very low IQ and often people are interested in thing I consider far beneath me. I could have been social but it would've required clashing with who i am far too much to do so. And for most of your younger years you are unaware/unable to move anywhere else in a meaningful way. This is just one example though. Another is that maybe you did want to socialize and made good efforts to do so. But your looks illicited a highly unfavorable reception no matter what you say or did. In that scenario you stop talking and become a "introvert" not because you want to be but because it's literal self preservation
Yea part of my problems are mentalcel-dom. I dont think im suffering from anything other than depression and maybe an existential crisis. But i feel im not terrible as a guy just not good enough either. and im not anti-social but but socially inept either. I always feel like a weirdo or like my real thoughts have to be hidden.
7:00 thats exactly what happen to me I often find myself facing a challenge after our first conversation Things start off well but I struggle with how to maintain the friendship and keep things going good, I get anxious am I boring am I stupid and don't know how to talk, I see people dropping the most funny jokes on a regular like its in their instinct but my brain just stutter and I pause a lot and think a lot before saying something its looks like I have autism and I'm not trying to show it and still the most trash jokes come out from my mouth I don't know what to do anymore man
Girls on any spectrum can talk every day about nothing and be social. I can't talk unless there's something I want to talk about. For some reason, I can talk more while driving. I joined toaster clubs, which did help, but I regress badly every now and then. I've had trouble all talking to girls all my life, and it was rare for me to find a girl who was like a best friend. I've only met one brunette white girl and black girl that I had a strong connection with and they moved away with in 4 months of knowing in 5th and 6 grade. The universe never giving me an opportunity to have that again is horrible. Your also f'd at work. Im neutral and pick the side thats right. I told my doctor that I want to be tested but she didn't follow through. She probably didn't take me seriously because Im 6ft3. I've been wierd for too long and I need answers. I wish there was a safe place for us.
Hey Javal you hit the nail right on the head with the mentalceldom even for higher tiers. I am a 5”11 chadlite and have been antisocial and introverted since a child. I was a chubby kid and didn’t know I was even remotely atttavtive until I grew up. Then when I got all the attention from females over my looks I fumbled bad and didn’t know what to do. I’ve had 2 real girlfriends and ruined them with my anxiety and mentalceldom. I’m 28 and single still and don’t know how to date lol with my mental blocks I may aswell be a sub 5
Man, your video spoke to my very soul lol. Describes me to a tee. Thankfully I am happily married, and my wife isn't real social due to having minor health issues in highschool. If it wasn't for an AOL chatroom long ago I likely would have never met her. I am actually perfectly fine 95% of the time with it just being me and her. She is definitely more social than me, but not nearly as much as most women thankfully. The main reason I wish I was more sociable is so that I would enjoy being out with my wifes family more. A part of me wonders if she would be even happier if I were a little more social. I absolutely despise being in public places with other people.
You can have autism and be social tho. Its just that youll get picked on by neurotypicals more since youre more social and let go of the mask. The only time people cant tell is if you mask your autism but that can only go so far since you can get burnout and mental health issues from it. Never tell anything personal to co workers. That shit can backfire.
I’m not a bper but I acknowledge how crucial looks are, however, social skills hold a lot of guys back. Many average to below average guys can have great lives but their social skills hold them back. A lot of these guys in the community say it’s all looks but literally going outside you’ll see guys that are young with not much money living good with good looking girls. It’s not one off thing either literally go to target or Walmart a mall or downtown area on a weekend and you’ll see so many examples and that a lot of the looks stuff is outright wrong.
I find a six pack of rolling rock gets my brain juices going lol you do have to put yourself out there especially if you do t use social media like I do. I go to my local clubs and bars and already found a girl in 2 months and I consider myself average at best. BUT I'm 6'3. I just don't have a lot of money which my girl makes money anyway so that ain't the problem. Shit if anything she helps me out and she is the shy one but I broke her out of her shell. Moral of the story is I used to be anti social and had to put myself out there once my aunt and mom passed away. You will find someone you just have to put yourself out in public
I’m antisocial I’m not autistic I got a couple traits tho lol. But nah I feel I’m normal. But like I know I’m like just a tad bit above average in looks. Im not tall I’m about 5’7 and I’m black. The most recent of the women I’ve been with actually approached me or initiated the conversation. Even still tho, despite my looks or whatever that’s just how I am, im very self conscious about my flaws still working on that got real bad anxiety but lately I’ve been doing great because I’ve been forcing myself. And also I have friends and stuff who are actually kinda extroverted and stuff so i am forced to be in situations where I have to Excercise that social skill. overall everyone has their own way to maneuver thru this game. A guy like myself can easily be overshadowed by a average guy with a great personality or humor, it’s just you gotta know how to work your build lol I look at it as a game.
I understand I’m only 22 years old and I feel really old. Talking to people sometimes feels like I’m putting on a performance to fit in. Even on the job you just put on face to keep moving forward, it is what it is I guess
Normies and PUA say, "Get out of your comfort zone." It's a bogus statement. If you are getting social anxiety it's your body and brain 🧠 saying get the F out of there.
If your comfort zone is your room, then your body is confused and needs to be tought every interaction is not a threat.
The problem is repeated negative experiences, you think that just goes away over night? Sheesh, this is coming from an autist. It took years of getting out of my comfort zone during college to get over my "anxiety".
Most autists will STAY that way, because the negative experiences are too much to overcome when theres really no incentive to suffer the uncomfortable.
Read the comment section, they have a much better grasp on the reality of autism and anxiety.
I would be more social if it were more rewarding in my youth. Now I've gone so long being asocial it's extremely difficult to break out of this behavior. Solitude is addicting and it's very true
This is a fact. I would be considered a Chad, I was voted most attractive in high school. I’ve never had trouble attracting women, but I’m autistic and introverted. I’m antisocial, and I live in solitary life
I’m antisocial but I don’t really view it as a problem. To me I feel like if you understand people for who they really are it’s hard to want to be social. I would much rather have peace and solitude. Yes some people may think I’m a weirdo but those people aren’t worth having around anyways. I would much rather have some people think I’m a weirdo and not have to deal with people’s BS than try to be the life of the party just to end up in a transactional relationship with someone who will most likely let me down.
Javal, I believe you and I fall into what is called "The gray area." Some even call it being a "Nearcell". We both get female interaction but we still come up short. Or the woman we get is a crazy beech. Jack and stacked did a video on it.
yeah that explains it, its a weird inbetween
@javalsmith2594 I don't drink alcohol or do any drugs; not even cigarettes or weed. I see homeless drug addicts with girlfriends. They don't even go through the problems with women like us. They don't get falsely accused or deal with women's stupid games. I had a good friend who even mentioned, "How come you tend to get with woman like this?" This was when I was dealing with a woman recently.
The crazy beech thing is so true. They feel for us but also hate us and mess with both your heads. lol
@Taylormademan900 i think its because these women sense weakness in men like us, they cant play the same games with dudes that are like them, they take our chillness/kindness for granted
Being social don't mean anything... Im a social guy at times but women still dont see me as boyfriend or husband material. I get either friendzoned or turn down the majority of the time. You either have it or you don't.
Being social is just the base you still have to have something that gives you your charm. Wether that may be your humor or sarcasm or whatever. Everyone has their thing. But truly I’m not social barely at all I’m kinda social like it’s situational for me but I can’t initiate anything which is how you make a lot of relationships or potential ones. Because that first approach even if you are a fairly average looking guy, is what will solidify in their mind if they are interested or not. Even a tad bit. Then there’s plenty of ways to do things we have to remember all of this stuff is a game and you have to try different stuff to see what works for you. For instance, a lot of guys look at friend zones as something bad. Trust me a girl as a friend is helpful especially if you already don’t get any women if you actually build a bond with a woman she’ll actually initiate stuff for you. It’s just you have to kinda change your perspective to get different outcomes.
Another example may be a coworker you like, you could approach head on, and you know ask her to go hang out or whatever or you could play it slow by every now and then quick chat and throw a couple of compliments in and continue on like nothing happened. For some reason women like that type of attitude where you aren’t over thirsty but you at least show signs you are interested. It’s really a game tbh. I’m fairly young but I’m still trying to learn the game myself.
I don't play the game, I'm real.
You have to be fake now days to be social, you can't be yourself.
Thats why I'm TRUE FORCE LONELINESS.
Women don't like quite guy, cos they can't control you.
END OF STORY.
they like quite guys but only if they are attractive
correct.
I'M AVERAGE AT BEST AND GET SEEN AS A PUSH OVER.
What about you??
@@josephazzaro9895 im an average quiet dude as well but i’ve seen a lot pf situation of attractive quiet guys getting promotions and getting girls without even trying in my workspace, I got traumatized got instantly black pilled in those months of work
@@EchoRayXmysterious quiet nerdy Chad
@@EchoRayX correct, exactly.
I try to put myself out there but I'm never able to fit in with normal people. I always get rejected from the tribe, and I've always known since a kid I'm not a very social person. Both of those things have made me what I am today.
The world doesn’t tell you that a lot of problems you have as a kid will come back to haunt you
I can relate I was born autistic I'm on the autism spectrum being really ugly. I have body dysmorphia I'm fucked.
I'm in the same boat brother, I am so sorry
@sigmamalegrindset132 I appreciate it bro
Same here, you're not alone.
I’ve been like this as long I know, I remember being like 4 years old and being anti social, I just want to know what is this place
You're right, Javal. The social pill is the true pill. I know because I am also an introvert, and women tend to think that we're creepy and unsafe to be around if we're not jestermaxxing. But to be social is to be fake. One must decide for oneself whether or not it is worth it. If not, then prepare to miss out on a lot of normal life experiences, and try to make peace with it somehow, the hardest pill to swallow. At the end of the day, a man is just a man.
I'm only anti social to women mostly because I'm a sub 5 and blackpilled
i couldnt relate more than this, the thing is even if you managed to be as much as normal in first couple interactions with 1 person, it only takes 1 slip of stuttering or anxious vibes that's immedlitly turn them off, I remember when I first time got into my job, I was the most outgoing person and i talk with everyone but overtime I got tired I'm not an extrovert, I started to recover in my workspace I didn't talk with anyone and when someone talks to me I'm just exhausted, I learned to not be the guy you want to be cuz life doesn't work like that instead I accepted what I am that I'm an introvert and talking too much make me exhausted and I will be just anxious and thats shows my autism a bit, its just a really odd situation, and let me clarify something an attractive guy he doesn't have to try that much his "aura" presence is enough for girls you just need to be normal just like the delivery guy and that's enough
Normies act like we as a social herd-animal have to somehow "learn" social skills, do they think every social animal rlly just practices their behaviour to fit in hahaha
Its really not that simple. Your ability to be social greatly depends on how your base personality meshes with that of the usual temperament of your environment. As a black guy who grew up in the south, this environment is very low IQ and often people are interested in thing I consider far beneath me. I could have been social but it would've required clashing with who i am far too much to do so. And for most of your younger years you are unaware/unable to move anywhere else in a meaningful way. This is just one example though. Another is that maybe you did want to socialize and made good efforts to do so. But your looks illicited a highly unfavorable reception no matter what you say or did. In that scenario you stop talking and become a "introvert" not because you want to be but because it's literal self preservation
Yea part of my problems are mentalcel-dom. I dont think im suffering from anything other than depression and maybe an existential crisis. But i feel im not terrible as a guy just not good enough either. and im not anti-social but but socially inept either. I always feel like a weirdo or like my real thoughts have to be hidden.
7:00 thats exactly what happen to me I often find myself facing a challenge after our first conversation Things start off well but I struggle with how to maintain the friendship and keep things going good, I get anxious am I boring am I stupid and don't know how to talk, I see people dropping the most funny jokes on a regular like its in their instinct but my brain just stutter and I pause a lot and think a lot before saying something its looks like I have autism and I'm not trying to show it and still the most trash jokes come out from my mouth I don't know what to do anymore man
Girls on any spectrum can talk every day about nothing and be social. I can't talk unless there's something I want to talk about. For some reason, I can talk more while driving. I joined toaster clubs, which did help, but I regress badly every now and then. I've had trouble all talking to girls all my life, and it was rare for me to find a girl who was like a best friend. I've only met one brunette white girl and black girl that I had a strong connection with and they moved away with in 4 months of knowing in 5th and 6 grade. The universe never giving me an opportunity to have that again is horrible. Your also f'd at work. Im neutral and pick the side thats right. I told my doctor that I want to be tested but she didn't follow through. She probably didn't take me seriously because Im 6ft3. I've been wierd for too long and I need answers. I wish there was a safe place for us.
Hey Javal you hit the nail right on the head with the mentalceldom even for higher tiers. I am a 5”11 chadlite and have been antisocial and introverted since a child. I was a chubby kid and didn’t know I was even remotely atttavtive until I grew up. Then when I got all the attention from females over my looks I fumbled bad and didn’t know what to do. I’ve had 2 real girlfriends and ruined them with my anxiety and mentalceldom. I’m 28 and single still and don’t know how to date lol with my mental blocks I may aswell be a sub 5
Man, your video spoke to my very soul lol. Describes me to a tee. Thankfully I am happily married, and my wife isn't real social due to having minor health issues in highschool. If it wasn't for an AOL chatroom long ago I likely would have never met her. I am actually perfectly fine 95% of the time with it just being me and her. She is definitely more social than me, but not nearly as much as most women thankfully. The main reason I wish I was more sociable is so that I would enjoy being out with my wifes family more. A part of me wonders if she would be even happier if I were a little more social. I absolutely despise being in public places with other people.
You can have autism and be social tho. Its just that youll get picked on by neurotypicals more since youre more social and let go of the mask. The only time people cant tell is if you mask your autism but that can only go so far since you can get burnout and mental health issues from it.
Never tell anything personal to co workers. That shit can backfire.
I’m not a bper but I acknowledge how crucial looks are, however, social skills hold a lot of guys back. Many average to below average guys can have great lives but their social skills hold them back. A lot of these guys in the community say it’s all looks but literally going outside you’ll see guys that are young with not much money living good with good looking girls. It’s not one off thing either literally go to target or Walmart a mall or downtown area on a weekend and you’ll see so many examples and that a lot of the looks stuff is outright wrong.
Complex problem no doubt
I find a six pack of rolling rock gets my brain juices going lol you do have to put yourself out there especially if you do t use social media like I do. I go to my local clubs and bars and already found a girl in 2 months and I consider myself average at best. BUT I'm 6'3. I just don't have a lot of money which my girl makes money anyway so that ain't the problem. Shit if anything she helps me out and she is the shy one but I broke her out of her shell. Moral of the story is I used to be anti social and had to put myself out there once my aunt and mom passed away. You will find someone you just have to put yourself out in public
Im in the same situation
Goof ball = jester maxxer
Tldr my life.
ADHD and Schizophrenia are as bad or worse than Autism.
I’m antisocial I’m not autistic I got a couple traits tho lol. But nah I feel I’m normal. But like I know I’m like just a tad bit above average in looks. Im not tall I’m about 5’7 and I’m black. The most recent of the women I’ve been with actually approached me or initiated the conversation. Even still tho, despite my looks or whatever that’s just how I am, im very self conscious about my flaws still working on that got real bad anxiety but lately I’ve been doing great because I’ve been forcing myself. And also I have friends and stuff who are actually kinda extroverted and stuff so i am forced to be in situations where I have to Excercise that social skill.
overall everyone has their own way to maneuver thru this game. A guy like myself can easily be overshadowed by a average guy with a great personality or humor, it’s just you gotta know how to work your build lol I look at it as a game.
Y’all need to take shrooms Fr
Just another cope fr.
Unreal trvthnuke
Except that ADHD causes you to be more social.
Me too bro me too...
I understand I’m only 22 years old and I feel really old. Talking to people sometimes feels like I’m putting on a performance to fit in. Even on the job you just put on face to keep moving forward, it is what it is I guess
Being Antisocial doesn’t mean you’re autistic wtf
@@arelite506 thats why i said theres many reasons why a guy might be antisocial
@@javalsmith2594 Ok that makes sense