I’m happy you made this video. I have seen these new MT AT’s on Discount Tire’s sight and I haven’t really considered them up until your video so when I get my 22 Trail Boss I think I will take the same path as you. Thanks again for the content.
I have Mickey Thompson BAJA BOSS LT275X70RX18AT on my2020 F150 FX4. 33" on stock rims. Factory 2" lift. Heavy tire. Lost 2 mpg with them. Max 80psi. Not very noisy compared to Mud Tires. I live on a mile of a private road in Northern Michigan, these tires get me home no matter the weather or condition.
With those tires would a spare of the same size fit underneath? I'm thinking of doing the same tires and leveling kit, just adding some 1.5 spacers as well.
Apologies if it was mentioned in the video..but what brand of leveling kit did you use? I can see it’s not Ready Lift, which I heard was a pretty decent product
Hey John, I just bought a set but 37's on 17x8.5 wheels, will get them in a week. Changing from pro comp mt no longer being made 37's on 20x10 pro comp wheels, on my f250 2018 diesel 6.7 tubo with a 6inch lift already .not getting much sleep till they are here.
Congratulations Fred. I am sure you will like them much more than your Procomps. Just give them a couple hundred miles at first to get the “new rubber” feeling worn down and then I am sure you’ll love them as much as I do.
So theyre quieter than the Duratracs? Any noise or vibration at all on the street? The dt's are terrible around the 30 mph mark, cant stand them anymore, only have about 9000 miles on my 2020 Trail boss. Nice looking setup ya got there!
Nice setup!!! I have a question I have a stock trail boss 21. What is the biggest tires I can fit on a stock without any rubbing or issues? Do I need to lift the truck to fit these exact tires?
My friend's telling me to get 265's because 285's are just "Huuge!", but these are 295's and don't look too big. 265's might look small on my Silverado.
I love the truck man! So, I was thinking of going w/ the Mickey Thompsons as well. What are your thoughts on the 255/85/17’s They are also a 34” tire., just more of a pizza cutter, I have 18’s currently on my Silverado, but thinking of going with the 17” rim.
@@johnlorenzo9930 I tried going on their website and they just show the load ratings. Then I try to purchase them on the recommended websites they have and majority of them from all the sizes they offer are rated Q which 99mph. But I figured I ask you since you physically own them haha (good looking ride by the way!)
I just has 33x12.50x18 bajas put on with a 2 inch level on front no issues with rubbing or vibration. What air pressure do u run at? They put me at 40 and they seem hard.
Looks fantastic! Do know what kind of vertical clearance you require? Do you think would fit in a 6’8” parking garage given then 1.5” level and 34” tires
I know this is really late but yes it does fit. I have a trail boss with a 2.5” level up front and a 1” rear lift with 295/70r18 (34.3”) and it will fit in a 6’8” garage by about .5” 😅
Not sure if they come in 20”, their website probably list available sizes. I have had a lot of different tires on my trucks over the years, the Duratracs were the loudest and these are the quietest I have had.
You don’t want to chance it on a Trail boss. Since it uses the normal Silverado upper control arm. On a custom, RST or other Z71 you can get away with 2” lift safety. Your upper ball joint is still within a reasonable angle
Good morning, have a question. I have a 21 TB just installed the ready lift 1.75” level to the front. I love this look. At 295/70/18 adding that spacer is there any rubbing or anything??
I have a 21 TB with the ReadyLift, 295/70/18 Toyo Open Country III, and 1.5in wheel spacers. Had zero rubbing until I added the spacers then I had minor rubbing at the front mudflap area. I trimmed the flap, removed the bracket, and pulled back the inner wheel liner. Zero rubbing👍
looks great! perfect set up, im planning on doing the same to my trail boss. When is the follow up video coming out about the lift and mods you did to fit the tires. Cheers!
They look awesome, I ordered the Baja legend in 305 for my 2500 Cummins. Unfortunately I’m still waiting because they are back ordered 🙄. How’s the noise with these?
I did add a 3/8” spacer because of the larger side lugs on the tires possibly rubbing the uca at the ball joint. It depends on what tires you go with since a 295 can very a bit from brand to brand. I was hoping to get a video out this weekend with details about the level and tire fit, but got tied up with work. Going to try to post a video tomorrow afternoon that will answer a lot of questions that people might have and hopefully help you out. Thanks
@@johnlorenzo9930 thank you for the reply. I'll likely end up doing the 275/70R18 since I'll keep the truck stock. Just hope there's enough buldge in the sidewall. I really want to try these Baja Boss AT's but heard complaints about the balancing of them
@@DrewGrall I’m pretty sure a 285 would be fine without any rubbing. Also I have had no problems with balancing these tires. My stock Duratracs took a ton of weight from the factory to balance.
@@DrewGrall The Duratracs were the loudest of all the tires I have ever owned. And people said it gets worse when they wear down more. I have my original set for sale if your in so. cal. Less than 7000 miles on them. 275’s.
I own same truck in black. I' ve owned (ALL!) the rest and came back full circle to the Boss,that includes the Navastar7.3 Duramax6.6 Cummapart 6.7L,GM8.0.L. The whole Boss layout is technically 98% perfect for all needs if you stay within factory tow/haul recomm's. You nailed both flaws,level and tires. ALL! pick-up's handle better, especially high speed when slightly lower in the rear.Hence 1.5" up front , not 2". Second Duratrac is a good snow/road tire that has exceptional grip in wet or high speed. Cons it's noisy,and definitely tracks. The 1.5" And Mickys correct this. Boards are fine, I need to get too that before the snow flies. Have fun and good 👍 luck.
I used to be a KO2 guy only, and have probably owned 6 sets of them on 4 different trucks since they came out, but like I said in the video these M.T. Baja Boss tires are by far my most favorite tire that I have owned so far. We recently had some light rain here in So Cal and they gripped great (I had the Toyo AT II and Toyo AT III and they were great in dirt but slick on wet pavement). Noise level is super quite on the new M.T.’s, my wife even commented on how quite and nice they felt. I liked the BFG’s or I wouldn’t have owned 6 sets in the past, but these M.T. baja boss AT’s are my new favorite. I am going to get them in some dirt in a few weeks and will post a video of how they do.
I slipped on my KO2s when they still had 35k+ miles of tread and NARROWLY (like inches) missed the person in front of me. On one hand, they slipped when braking. On the other hand, they miraculously gripped when I jerked the steering wheel to the right and steered me out of a collision. I haven't had a chance to brake test my Baja Boss ATs in rain yet.
Looking to put these exact tires on my trailboss after I go ahead and put the ReadyLift "2.0 SST lift kit in the front, do you think I'll need wheel spacers as well?
It depends on how big the Ready lift control arms are at the ball joint. I have the Zone UCA’s, they are thick at the ball joint and the combination of them and the larger side biters on the Mickey Thompson tires made it a little too close for me without the 3/8” thick spacer.
I had maybe about 1/4in clearance between the ReadyLift UCA and a 295/70/18 on stock wheels. Added a 1.5in spacer for clearance and to push out the stance a bit.
Thanks- I have had the truck about 3 months now and have only used the flex gate twice and that was to show people how it worked. I wouldn’t have got the flex gate option if I had custom ordered the truck.
No the trail boss comes with a 2” lift from the factory. I leveled the front 1.5” on top of that so that the truck sits level and to fit the larger tires.
As was saying 1.5" and Mickys make the truck perfect,l like mine.The 5.3L and the 10 speed is great stock. It's better with a pulsar LT,look into it . Thanks for good video. correction Cummapart 6.7, GM 8.0L.Oh almost forgot boards are just right, they should'nt look like an illuminated spaceship on each side of your truck.Have fun with that Boss
My dad is running the same tire (295/60r20) on his ‘20 high country with a 3.5” lift and he had to do a lot of cutting to clear those Edit: went to a nitto ridge grappler in 285/60r20 after the Mickey Thompson’s rode rough
GM owners used to be hardcore Dependable of the vehicles but the CEO has destroyed their product weekend the suspensions where they break easier and everything else the computer world has destroyed vehicles what happened to the car market and back wheel Drive models add horse and torque and gas mileage
I’m happy you made this video. I have seen these new MT AT’s on Discount Tire’s sight and I haven’t really considered them up until your video so when I get my 22 Trail Boss I think I will take the same path as you. Thanks again for the content.
I have Mickey Thompson BAJA BOSS LT275X70RX18AT on my2020 F150 FX4. 33" on stock rims. Factory 2" lift. Heavy tire. Lost 2 mpg with them. Max 80psi. Not very noisy compared to Mud Tires. I live on a mile of a private road in Northern Michigan, these tires get me home no matter the weather or condition.
Any update on how they ride all around? Super nice look! I love the way it’s not too much nor less, just perfect!
Nicest looking AT tire by a mile!
HOw do you feel about them now? 2 years later
It's an actual 2 inch lift from the factory. FYI. The truck looks great and I say keep the running boards!
Just put some on my Titan pro 4X freaking love them about to take them to South Padre next month hey ...
Q what tire pressure are you running
Hi, i have a 2021 Plat Reserve. Did you have to road force balance them or did they just work with normal mount and balance ?
For the 1-1/2 inch you added in the front, was it required to get new upper control arms?
Just ordered these and glad I did cause I was about to spend $200 more for lesser quality Nitto Recons. These Mickeys are 10x better!
Love these. Just ordered mine in 37/12.5/20 can’t wait
Awesome looking truck, would you mind sharing what spacer and what size you used,
Also did you need to buy longer wheel nuts? Thank you
Thanks for the review seriously thinking these are my next set of tires for my Ram 2500
same here
Another video. Nice looking truck
Have you had any issues with rubbing, especially while off roading? Thanks
Very nice truck! I just bought mine on thursday. I love this truck.
How do you like them bro
Did you notice a reduction in MPG?
Yes.
@@Mark-Dibblehow much mpg did you lose?
After 2 weeks of having these it went down maybe 1.5 to 2 MPGs city. Nothing too bad for as big as they are
Are rgeses mt baja boss A/T tires better then nitto recon grappler ofr nitto ridge grappler R/T tires?
Nittos are junk compared to these.
To date, how are the tires holding up now after 2 years? Number of miles on them? I am looking to buy a set soon.
Do you happen to know if the sidebiters are more aggressive on the LT over the P rated tires?
Getting my first set of BB A/T, did you have to road force balance or sis regular mount and balance work?
With those tires would a spare of the same size fit underneath? I'm thinking of doing the same tires and leveling kit, just adding some 1.5 spacers as well.
Does the leveling kit cause adverse issues with using 4wd auto? That’s the only thing I’m skeptical about
Apologies if it was mentioned in the video..but what brand of leveling kit did you use? I can see it’s not Ready Lift, which I heard was a pretty decent product
My local 4wd shop steered me away from going with readylift.
Recommended Zone Off Road UCA’s.
No problems so far. 60,000 miles now.
Hey John, I just bought a set but 37's on 17x8.5 wheels, will get them in a week. Changing from pro comp mt no longer being made 37's on 20x10 pro comp wheels, on my f250 2018 diesel 6.7 tubo with a 6inch lift already .not getting much sleep till they are here.
Congratulations Fred.
I am sure you will like them much more than your Procomps.
Just give them a couple hundred miles at first to get the “new rubber” feeling worn down and then I am sure you’ll love them as much as I do.
have you ever had ridge grapplers? Any comparison between the two? Thanks!!
I got same tires on my 20s. GMC Sierra Elevation Seem good so far. they stick and are soft feel. loosing about 2 mpg with large treads and weight.
Quick question boss are they loud when road tripping
I got the 19 boss , definitely want this look !
So theyre quieter than the Duratracs? Any noise or vibration at all on the street? The dt's are terrible around the 30 mph mark, cant stand them anymore, only have about 9000 miles on my 2020 Trail boss. Nice looking setup ya got there!
Running any wheel spacers on this set up? Any issues with rubbing? This set up looks awesome. Planning on doing the same thing to my 2021.
Yes - check out my other video that gives more specifics on the level.
How are these for Day to day highway and rain?
Nice setup!!! I have a question I have a stock trail boss 21. What is the biggest tires I can fit on a stock without any rubbing or issues? Do I need to lift the truck to fit these exact tires?
What tire pressure did you run these ?
Can you hear them on the Highway
I have these in 35x12.5R18 and can’t get them balanced 😖
Does the tire rubbing? Did you use and tire spacer ?
I would appreciate any details , and those tires are sick
Check out my other video on the leveling kit. I go into more detail about it.
Thanks
Looks great! Wish it had white lettering tho
I have tire stickers and they look great on my challenger you can get some made for any tire
@@deepblue159 get some made? Is there a company that makes stickers? Where’d you get yours if you don’t mind me asking
@@theeconomicsofthings9752 check out the stickers on my chally
They are awesome but I think the Goodyear duratracs are still better in the snow
It's a year later how does it ride?
Are those factory running boards?
My friend's telling me to get 265's because 285's are just "Huuge!", but these are 295's and don't look too big. 265's might look small on my Silverado.
Do they rub at all on your trailboss?
I love the truck man!
So, I was thinking of going w/ the Mickey Thompsons as well.
What are your thoughts on the 255/85/17’s
They are also a 34” tire., just more of a pizza cutter, I have 18’s currently on my Silverado, but thinking of going with the 17” rim.
Great looking tires will these fit on a stock trail boss with no rubbing?
From what I’ve read on forums, I think 285’s instead of 295’s is what I would have gone with if I didn’t level it.
@@johnlorenzo9930 if you dont mind me asking what's the speed rating on your tires
@@jporras208 I think the Mickey Thompson web site can help you out with all the specs. Whatever it is I am sure faster than I will ever go!
Thanks
@@johnlorenzo9930 I tried going on their website and they just show the load ratings. Then I try to purchase them on the recommended websites they have and majority of them from all the sizes they offer are rated Q which 99mph. But I figured I ask you since you physically own them haha (good looking ride by the way!)
@@jporras208 👍
looks sick!
I just has 33x12.50x18 bajas put on with a 2 inch level on front no issues with rubbing or vibration. What air pressure do u run at? They put me at 40 and they seem hard.
Why did you trade the F-150 for the Chevy?
how is the road noise on highway??
1:28 at first I'm like what the heck cause you said I predict these tires will explode
Are these louder than toyo at3? And smoother or more comfortable? I’m in Chicago and need 3peak snowflake I’m deciding between these 2 for my ram
just bought my TB and looking for wheels and tires. I may jut keep stock wheels and use these tires! Looks god
Looks fantastic! Do know what kind of vertical clearance you require? Do you think would fit in a 6’8” parking garage given then 1.5” level and 34” tires
I know this is really late but yes it does fit. I have a trail boss with a 2.5” level up front and a 1” rear lift with 295/70r18 (34.3”) and it will fit in a 6’8” garage by about .5” 😅
They make those for a 20" wheel?
How noisy are they compared to the stock wranglers? Those look great!😃👍
Not sure if they come in 20”, their website probably list available sizes.
I have had a lot of different tires on my trucks over the years, the Duratracs were the loudest and these are the quietest I have had.
They make them for 20" wheels.
Did u have to get longer studs when u added the 3/8 spacer?
No. Not necessary with 3/8" spacer.
How much space do u have within the control arm and tire since u added the 3/8 spacer?
Love the truck man
Nice clean looking truck👍
I just got the 275/18s hopefully they're coming in tomorrow. I can't wait to put that on my tundra
I'm putting the Baja Boss AT's on a tundra too, did you see a big decrease in mileage?
Can you add 1.5 inch lift with out the upper control arm ?
You don’t want to chance it on a Trail boss. Since it uses the normal Silverado upper control arm. On a custom, RST or other Z71 you can get away with 2” lift safety. Your upper ball joint is still within a reasonable angle
Good morning, have a question. I have a 21 TB just installed the ready lift 1.75” level to the front. I love this look. At 295/70/18 adding that spacer is there any rubbing or anything??
Check out my other video on leveling a trail boss. It goes into more detail on the level and what I did for some of the minor rubbing. Thanks
I have a 21 TB with the ReadyLift, 295/70/18 Toyo Open Country III, and 1.5in wheel spacers. Had zero rubbing until I added the spacers then I had minor rubbing at the front mudflap area. I trimmed the flap, removed the bracket, and pulled back the inner wheel liner. Zero rubbing👍
@@markhilsen2700 what size lift did you install? Thinking a 4" to run Toyo Open County A/T 3's 295/65/20 hopefully no rubbing.
Chevy Trail Boss still run 18 inch rims? Doesn't that limit caliber size on the brake rotors?
Trail Boss comes with both 18” or 20” wheel options.
I prefer 18” for better ride quality.
Even the new ZR2 Silverado comes with 18” wheels
looks great! perfect set up, im planning on doing the same to my trail boss. When is the follow up video coming out about the lift and mods you did to fit the tires. Cheers!
Thanks.
Hoping to get a video with details on the leveling kit out this weekend !
DID YOU HAVE TO INSTALL ANY WHEEL SPACER ?
Yes
As i said in the video 3/8” spacers.
Those tires look bad ass. Are they quiet? The duratracks are loud as hell!!!
They look awesome, I ordered the Baja legend in 305 for my 2500 Cummins. Unfortunately I’m still waiting because they are back ordered 🙄. How’s the noise with these?
Thanks. The tire noise is minimal.
You never made an off-road review like you promised.
Made in USA! Just ordered Toyo AT lll for my 01 Silverado, these are not made in a 305 70 R16 unfortunately. Toyo is USA made also
Those are what I'm getting on my Chevrolet 2021 Silverado 1500 and a 3.5" Rough County lift 285/60/20's come out to 33.6 " I believe..
What pressure are you running on the tires? Thanks.
36 - 38 psi
What brand running boards and where did you buy them?
Just posted a video on the running boards. Hope it helps!
Do you have to put spacers on the front and rear?
I didn’t have to put spacers on the rear but did anyway so that everything looks even.
What’s the sound decibels compared to the nitto ridge grappler?
Nittoes open country A/T 3's are very good and very quite on highway at 75 mph..
@@jeffreyjuneau1959 would you say nitto’s and open country A/T 3’s are about the same noise level as the Baja boss A/T?
Any reason why you didn't go with the 305/70R18?
Rubbing
Good video
Thanks for the video
Those side biters are amazing. Wished i seen these before i got the cooper at3 4s.
Don't worry to much, cooper makes these tires to...
Do you think 35s of the same tire would fit?
Depends on the wheel offset, spacers, etc.
my Zone UCAs would rubbed on my tires if I went any bigger.
Nice truck 👍
Thank you
Are you running spacers? Was curious how these 295's would work on fully stock trail boss
I did add a 3/8” spacer because of the larger side lugs on the tires possibly rubbing the uca at the ball joint. It depends on what tires you go with since a 295 can very a bit from brand to brand.
I was hoping to get a video out this weekend with details about the level and tire fit, but got tied up with work.
Going to try to post a video tomorrow afternoon that will answer a lot of questions that people might have and hopefully help you out.
Thanks
@@johnlorenzo9930 thank you for the reply.
I'll likely end up doing the 275/70R18 since I'll keep the truck stock. Just hope there's enough buldge in the sidewall.
I really want to try these Baja Boss AT's but heard complaints about the balancing of them
@@DrewGrall
I’m pretty sure a 285 would be fine without any rubbing.
Also I have had no problems with balancing these tires.
My stock Duratracs took a ton of weight from the factory to balance.
@@johnlorenzo9930 road noise compared to duratracs?
@@DrewGrall The Duratracs were the loudest of all the tires I have ever owned. And people said it gets worse when they wear down more.
I have my original set for sale if your in so. cal. Less than 7000 miles on them. 275’s.
best truck on market as far as look go for a stock truck. I got one and they are so nice
I have them and they keep making my truck vibrate at 70 mph balanced them 3 times already it helped a little but still vibrates the truck at 70mph
Sorry to hear that.
I have no problem with mine. Now with about 10,000 miles on them.
If they balance out, maybe it’s something else?
Do you think they would rub in front if mine isn’t leveled. I’m very interested in finding a better tire then comes on our trucks. NOISY!!!!
Not 100% positive, but in doing my research, it seems like 285 instead of 295 is a common size for trail boss’s that aren’t leveled on stock wheels.
@John Lorenzo 285's i heard no rubbing..
I own same truck in black. I' ve owned (ALL!) the rest and came back full circle to the Boss,that includes the Navastar7.3 Duramax6.6 Cummapart 6.7L,GM8.0.L. The whole Boss layout is technically 98% perfect for all needs if you stay within factory tow/haul recomm's. You nailed both flaws,level and tires. ALL! pick-up's handle better, especially high speed when slightly lower in the rear.Hence 1.5" up front , not 2". Second Duratrac is a good snow/road tire that has exceptional grip in wet or high speed. Cons it's noisy,and definitely tracks. The 1.5" And Mickys correct this. Boards are fine, I need to get too that before the snow flies. Have fun and good 👍 luck.
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I was thinking about getting these or KO2 any one that has had both i would to know how they compare in rain and noise
I used to be a KO2 guy only, and have probably owned 6 sets of them on 4 different trucks since they came out, but like I said in the video these M.T. Baja Boss tires are by far my most favorite tire that I have owned so far.
We recently had some light rain here in So Cal and they gripped great (I had the Toyo AT II and Toyo AT III and they were great in dirt but slick on wet pavement).
Noise level is super quite on the new M.T.’s, my wife even commented on how quite and nice they felt.
I liked the BFG’s or I wouldn’t have owned 6 sets in the past, but these M.T. baja boss AT’s are my new favorite.
I am going to get them in some dirt in a few weeks and will post a video of how they do.
Awesome video. Any chance for a highway driving video for noise level?
I slipped on my KO2s when they still had 35k+ miles of tread and NARROWLY (like inches) missed the person in front of me. On one hand, they slipped when braking. On the other hand, they miraculously gripped when I jerked the steering wheel to the right and steered me out of a collision.
I haven't had a chance to brake test my Baja Boss ATs in rain yet.
KO2 - not the greatest in rain, snow - don’t even bother. Others suggested to me Mickey Thompson, so I am searching out reviews. Nothing bad so far…
What color is that truck?
Shadow grey
@@johnlorenzo9930 my 2021 Chevrolet Silverado 1500 Custom is Shadow Grey Mettalic..
Drop the differential for longevity.....looks really good....trail boss tires are way to small stock
What do you mean by that? Dropping the differential.
Did you level it yourself?
No I had a shop do it.
@@johnlorenzo9930 shop name? I’m in SoCal too
@@rrojas2716 T & R Performance in Simi Valley
Nice video And review of MT product 👌 Truck is Great.
If Gm would listen all the suspension work would have not been necessary
I agree.
Looking to put these exact tires on my trailboss after I go ahead and put the ReadyLift "2.0 SST lift kit in the front, do you think I'll need wheel spacers as well?
It depends on how big the Ready lift control arms are at the ball joint. I have the Zone UCA’s, they are thick at the ball joint and the combination of them and the larger side biters on the Mickey Thompson tires made it a little too close for me without the 3/8” thick spacer.
I had maybe about 1/4in clearance between the ReadyLift UCA and a 295/70/18 on stock wheels. Added a 1.5in spacer for clearance and to push out the stance a bit.
@@markhilsen2700 hey Mark, did you take off the bracket behind the wheel well liner? I got a good amount of rubbing with 2 inch spacers, did it work?
Lookin Goooood
Bad ass truck!!!! Eat the tires, I also have 21 boss but It didn’t come w flex gate :/
Thanks-
I have had the truck about 3 months now and have only used the flex gate twice and that was to show people how it worked. I wouldn’t have got the flex gate option if I had custom ordered the truck.
So you raised it 2 inches.
No the trail boss comes with a 2” lift from the factory. I leveled the front 1.5” on top of that so that the truck sits level and to fit the larger tires.
Mpg with this setup?
Probably lost about 2 miles per gallon, but I will be putting out a new video in a few days going over the details of the level, including mpg.
Purty. 👍
As was saying 1.5" and Mickys make the truck perfect,l like mine.The 5.3L and the 10 speed is great stock. It's better with a pulsar LT,look into it . Thanks for good video. correction Cummapart 6.7, GM 8.0L.Oh almost forgot boards are just right, they should'nt look like an illuminated spaceship on each side of your truck.Have fun with that Boss
My dad is running the same tire (295/60r20) on his ‘20 high country with a 3.5” lift and he had to do a lot of cutting to clear those
Edit: went to a nitto ridge grappler in 285/60r20 after the Mickey Thompson’s rode rough
Yes. That size is about 1/2 taller and 1/2” wider than mine. If he doesn’t have factory wheel offset that could make it worse also.
@@johnlorenzo9930 yea he’s got a -18
295/60r20 = 33.9 “ x 11.6
What lift your dad went with? I think they t9ld me 285/60/20 won't rub..295 would rub just a snich..
Is your dad running a stock 20 in wheel?
its a 2 inch lift from the factory not a level. learn what youre talking about
GM owners used to be hardcore Dependable of the vehicles but the CEO has destroyed their product weekend the suspensions where they break easier and everything else the computer world has destroyed vehicles what happened to the car market and back wheel Drive models add horse and torque and gas mileage
How are the tires holding up?